Home Server General /hsg/

What type of raspberry pi do I need for a budget NAS?

>>61869360
Do you absolutely need a Raspberry Pi, or will any ARM board do?

If you must have a rPi, I believe the model 3 has ethernet on a separate bus than the USB, so thats the one you will want

If youre open to other ARM boards theres quite a few options out there. Try to get something with either SATA or USB-3, as these will have the fastest disk transfer speeds

Looks nice OP. What are you hosting with it?

>>61869587
Its really just a file server. the 2TB RAID-1 array is almost full, which is why I got the USB 3 card and connected spare 250GB drives I had. Planning on RAID-10, though I might go with RAID-5 or RAID-6, and the less critical stuff will be on those laptop drives.

Little server that sits in basement along with all networking gear:
OS - Windows Home Server 2011 (based on 2008R2)
CPU - AMD FX 8300 3.30ghz
RAM - 8GB
HDD - 1tb (OS & Client backups), 9TB (3tb x 4 Raid 5;Data). All seagate.
Server is on a UPS and is backed up to a 8TB NAS and 3TB External drive (both of which are powered off when not used). Been running smooth for a long time now, I check event logs least once a week for anything amiss and so far not a peep.

Convince me to build a home server please.
I wanna get one but I don't really have any use for it

>>61869745
PLEX
remote download server (for instance you're at work or school and you want something downloading stuff for you while you're away)
Run IRC/discord bots

>>61869745
>convince me to spend money i dont need to spend for something i have no use for

>>61869334
E8500
2GB RAM
4x 1TB drives in software raid 10
Openmediavault

>>61869765
>Propietary bullshit

>>61869745
Being able to restore a dead client pc to the last day it functioned perfectly without installing any software,drivers.etc is a damn good reason for a server. Will save you loads of time/hassle/data. I sleep better knowing that if worse case happens the data is protected.

>>61869334
9x WD Red 3TB in RAID6
1x SD card + USB card reader for OS
i5 4570S
12GB leftover RAM
Dell PERC H310 flashed to HBA

Software:
Debian 9
mdadm
Samba
OpenVPN
Emby
Subsonic
TS3
rTorrent
ruTorrent (on nginx)
sshd (use it as a proxy quite often, not just management)
>software for the server itself
apcupsd
smartd

>>61869745
1 - less internal clutter in your main desktop (2 less drives at least)
2 - you can access your files from all your devices
3 - you can upgrade, modify, or replace your main desktop more often, while all your data sits safely on your server

>>61869791

He's asking us to be Jewish.

>>61869796
>4x 1TB drives in software raid 10
>Openmediavault

using mdadm and ext4?

I was thinking of moving onto freenas or nas4free in order to setup a ZFS based server.

>>61869884
Excuse the noob question, but why would you use sshd as a proxy? I thought all the client data was unencrypted when it reaches the host. Tgerefore wouldnt you end up just sending unencrypted data through/to your router anyway?

>>61869968
presumably he's referring to connecting to his home server away from home, as a proxy

>>61869968
I use it when browsing from a connection I don't trust, when I'm not at home, such as from some hotel or other public network.

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This thing. Torrents, VPN server, file server and backups.

Can anyone tell me between NAS4Free and FreeNAS which they prefer?

I want to setup a new server, and I like the error correcting capabilities of ZFS. Its my understanding that ZFS isnt native for Linux, and I really hate having to deal with using kernel modules, so I guess Im looking for a BSD based solution.

>>61869949
>using mdadm and ext4
Yep, I thought about using freeNAS too but I don't know much about ZFS so I decided to use openmediavault. I might switch to ZFS when I switch to an actual server with ECC but that won't happen in the near future. Btw does anyone know if it's easy to add disks to an existing vdev?

>>61870116
last i checked you can't change the number of disks in a vdev

>>61870116
>Btw does anyone know if it's easy to add disks to an existing vdev?
I don't think you can add more disks at all in the way you can with mdadm, like you can't add another disk in a RAIDZ2 like you can in a mdadm RAID6 for instance.

>>61870041
Synology uses Atom cpus. That entire box will be bricked randomly after some time..

>>61869611
You need a rack anon

>>61870409
Not all of them do, that being said if you have an old one with the c2000 in it you should be RMA'ing it

>>61870034
Why not just use https? Or do you think that alone does not do good enough to prevent sniffers and MITM?

>>61870796
HTTPS is fine, but everything has to use HTTPS and you have to make sure it's actually being used, not to mention that sites can be browsed over HTTPS and yet still pull content from other places over HTTP, then there's DNS too. Going through an encrypted SSH tunnel makes it certain that no matter what site I'm browsing nothing will be visible in the untrustworthy network, it's just a very, very simple way to hide my shit in one go without having to worry about specifics for every site.

>>61870394
>>61870189
Well that sounds bad. So your only choice when you run out of space is creating another pool with new drives?

>>61870972
I don't use ZFS so don't just take my word around, but generally yeah, that's the way it goes as far as I understand. That was one of the main reasons I went with mdadm, because I was planning to expand in the future and wanted to do so in a cost-effective manner and without wasting to many HDD bays in my case.

I believe you can have multiple RAID vdevs in the same pool or something and use them together at the logical level (one big drive), but you'll basically have to use more drives as redundancy since each vdev has to be fault-tolerant in and of itself in order for the entire pool to be.

The big upside of this is that ZFS also guards against bit rot, which mdadm DOES NOT.

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The small external is a dual 2.5" enclosure. I have 2x500GB drives in there as a dedicated offline backup.

The large external is my buddy's 4TB. We always split the cost of buying Blu-ray movies and TV collections. He gave me the Blu-ray rips of the entire Dexter collection. (980GB!) And in return I'll be giving him Hannibal and Breaking Bad. My main PC will be busy for the next few weeks encoding. Anyway

Server is
>Intel Pentium G3460 dual core
>ASRock H97 mitx-AC
>2x2GB ddr3-1600mhz
>Samsung 250GB 850 Evo as boot
>2x4TB Toshiba X300's for movies. 2x2TB HGST and Seagate barracuda for anime/TV series. 2x1TB WD Blue for music and pictures
>windows 7 pro 64 bit with backup utility set for auto backup every 2 days
>EVGA 500w

>>61870972
The big restrictions are that you can't remove vdevs from a pool, and you can't change the type of a vdev. By which i mean, if you have a RAIDZ1 vdev, you can't add a disk and make it a RAIDZ2 vdev. It will always be a RAIDZ1 vdev with however many disks it was created with. The limited exception is with mirrors. If you have a mirror vdev, you can add a disk and make a three-way mirror. You can also remove a disk to make a three-way mirror a two-way mirror. Or to make a two-way mirror into a non-redundant single disk (don't do that)

If you want to expand a pool, you can either add a new vdev to it (which you will be unable to remove once its added) or you can replace disks in an existing vdev with larger ones. This leads to the biggest dilemma for the home ZFS user - the easiest way to make your pool expandable is to use mirrors so you can add or replace disks two at a time, but that sticks you with 50% space efficiency. Parity RAID has better space efficiency but you'll need to add or replace more disks at once to expand.

>>61871040
Yes, each vdev has to bring its own redundancy. The pool as a whole is basically a RAID 0 stripe over all the vdevs in the pool. If you lose one vdev, you lose the whole pool.

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>>61871179
Some more stuff I recently got for the server. I'm actually ripping it all now. $50 for the pair.

>>61871181
Yeah, I think those are some pretty big disadvantages to home-use ZFS. I think switching over to ZFS from mdadm once you have a complete/full set of drives might be an idea worth pursuing, though to do that you need some other place as big as the array to store shit to while you tear down mdadm and replace it with ZFS. Should be entirely doable if you have backups though, I'm considering doing it myself but nuking my 10TB worth of shit somehow feels unsafe despite having complete backups.

>>61871181
>Parity RAID has better space efficiency but you'll need to add or replace more disks at once to expand.
And you'll still have worse space efficiency than parity RAID solutions which can expand an existing array.

>>61871346
not who youre talking to but non-parity RAID has plenty of advantages over parity RAID.

just sayin

>>61871568
I don't think you understand what I'm saying, I said that ZFS parity still has worse efficiency than non-ZFS parity which can expand the same array. With ZFS you always need to make an entirely new array and have to obviously add more drives for parity in the new array. It's not about parity vs. non-parity.

>>61871181
>>61871040
Thanks for the detailed responses. If you can only add disks to mirrors then I think I'll continue using mdadm for a while. My plan was to create a raid 10 pool but seems like expanding that isn't possible.

>>61869611
How's that palo alto firewall serving you?

I have acquired a Dell Wyse R90L can is use it to be a torrent machine while i'm at college? I have external hard drives i can use.

>>61871203

Is that all of Nichijou?

>>61872271
Yup. The entire series and extras. OVA's etc. Was $20 on Amazon.

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Running FreeNAS on this system. Right now running 6x 6tb drives. I know my hardware is to week to really do anything besides just handling files but I was thinking of upgrading and running VMs to use the box as a torrent box/mega download machine. Yes I know I can get Transmission up and and running with FreeNAS but megalinks and what not? I don't think a plug in is out that can deal with that.

How do VMs even work? Should I stick with FreeNAS? I like the benefits of the ZFS file system

>>61869334
>raid 1
why waste the time?

im curious what the hell you guys use these servers for?

>>61872560

Got damn. 6 years ago when it came out I think it cost the equivalent of around 600 dollars to buy all 12 or 13 volumes volumes.

Please don't tell me it fits all on one disc.

Lenovo x220

Software
> OpenBSD
> httpd
> OpenSMTPD
> Syncthing

>>61872705
4 regular DVDs or 3 Blu-ray discs. About 4.6GB per Blu-ray episode. I'll be encoding them of course. Usually about 1.5GB after encoding with super HQ present.

>>61872648
i wonder how you are actually benefiting from ZFS while not having sufficient memory for the amount of disk space you have. general rule of thumb for ZFS storage is 1.5 x hdd space.

jails are not vms, bhyve is garbage, run an esxi on your system with the OS being on a partition of a usb stick, then install a freenas instance on it, create your storage pools and install your vms where your vmdks are located on the freenas.

then again you'd need decent hardware and not a pentium and just 8gb ram

>>61872910
>actually benefiting from ZFS

Under the impression ZFS protects against bit rot, that would be mostly unrelated to my amount of ram

> general rule of thumb for ZFS storage is 1.5 x hdd space

Yes but for using it as a file sever like I do now I have no speed issues at all and my network is the limiting factor.

> bhyve is garbage, run an esxi on your system with the OS being on a partition of a usb stick

None of this means anything to me besides running an OS off a USB stick which I already do for FreeNAS. I know Jails are not VMs I was just saying you can get some of the functionality I want from jails. I also see FreeNAS has a VM tab but I haven't messed with it at all.

I'm assuming i'd have some sort of client to install on my desktop that I'd open to get to the VM installed on my FreeNAS box? If this works the way I think it does i'll upgrade to a SM board and some sort of used Xeon off fleabay. Would like to step up to ECC ram anyways

>>61869334
MacBook Pro 2016 Non Touch Bar

Desktop:
Gtx 970
i5- 6400
16gb RAM
Samsung 23' 1080P Monitor

>>61869334
optiplex 760 SFF (i5 2500, 6gb ram)
1 wd live 2tb nas
1 wd mycloud 4tb nas
dedicated plex machine and fileserver
(serves a PS4, roku 3, and roku stick running plex client)

picked up the computer super cheap off government clearance $50
and the wd nas were picked up second hand as well ($50 and $90 respectively)
the wd nas also serve as time machine backup drives for the macbook and mac mini on my network.

>>61872963
you should know what the technology behind does in order to decide whether the functionality provided is sufficient to your needs or not. and no you don't need a client.

ecc is debatable, xeon as well, depends on your use cases, for private purpose probably not. if you go for xeon i'd recommend the low voltage like E3-1220LV3 if you don't intend to run multiple heavy service. if you don't really care, go straight up for ryzen, it's cheap and efficient as fuck.

>>61872648
I have a Pentium G3450 in my server, and I think it is a pretty capable CPU. I've been hosting game servers with it once in a while, and It never did worse than my own desktop did with its i5 4690. Depends on what you want to do with it, but it can do a lot more than just serving files.

I also use mine with distcc to give my laptop a (massive) boost when compiling larger packages.

>>61873122
>1220LV3
Just got one of those for about 40 dollars. No idea if it works, but if it does, I'll have a sweet 14W chip for my server.

>>61869360
don't. stretch that budget and get an atom instead.

>>61871179
>We always split the cost of buying Blu-ray movies and TV collections. He gave me the Blu-ray rips of the entire Dexter collection. (980GB!) And in return I'll be giving him Hannibal and Breaking Bad.

You know you can just fucking pirate them right?

You aren't on any better legal standing by doing what you're doing, so to me you're just wasting money buying blu-rays.

>>61869360
A discounted Gen8 Microserver. I expect them to get even cheaper now that the Gen10 is out.

>>61870409
Do old atoms have a planned death thing or something?

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>>61869334
What filesystem are you anons using?
And why?

>>61869526
That's not true, ethernet and USB still share a bus on the 3. Wifi/Bluetooth, however, has its own bus.

>>61869334
What are the enclosures?

>>61873122
Why can't we just run all of RAM as a ZFS partition so we don't need ECC to stop bitrotting of the RAM?

>>61875280
Btrfs, because I couldn't be bothered with ZFS for Linux. I'll get another server eventually for backups eventually. I plan on installing omnios or openindiana (for ZFS) to make myself familiar with those before I start using them on my primary server.

I'm thinking about picking one of these up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Server-ProLiant-DL380-G7-16-Bay-2x-2-66GHz-HexCore-64GB-RAM-no-hard-drives-/222488259474?hash=item33cd556b92:g:uw4AAOSwjDZYdBNv

I'd be running ESXi with several VMs, so the cores+RAM are great.
The only downside is the storage. Does anyone know if there's a way to feed 3.5" HDDs to this machine, or can it only be used with 2.5" SFF drives?

>>61869611
Aren't you the retard who spent like 400 bucks on these piece of shit G6s when he could have gotten a G7 with that?

>>61875948
Find one fully populated with drive caddies. 16 drive caddies at 10 bucks each adds up and you don't really need 5650s for what you're doing.

>>61871179
Is that a paperwhite? Comfy eReader.

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>>61870972
ZFS mitigates this issue by allowing you to make atomic snapshots of the filesystem and push them to another filesystem and back again.
But yes, you need to think carefully about your topology before

zpool create

IMHO it's a necessary sacrifice to make for all the shit that comes with.

My home server:

OS: Arch
CPU: Intel i7-5700k
RAM: 32GB DDR4
HDD: 2x 3TB WD Red, in btrfs raid 0

My work was throwing out some old equipment, and I managed to snag some 256GB OCZ SSDs from 2012, so I'm going to use them to fill the 3 2.5" bays my case has.

Biggest regret of this build is not getting more 3.5" bays in the case, or more SATA ports on the mobo. Though I have like 8 sata ports, which is already > my 3 3.5" and 3 2.5" case bays could populate.

Considering a Ryzen 3 build that will be able to hold > 10 3.5" drives, but right now I'm actually doing fine with the 3TB usable space, and my next upgrade will probably be grabbing a 6TB WD Red to stick in my last 3.5" bay. And because of how btrfs does mirroring, it'll effectively double my usable space to 6TB which should keep me good for a while.

Rule of thumb: whatever raid you choose to employ get least double the usable capacity of what you use now. (ex: 4TB of current data = 8TB capacity of new Raid volume). This way baring any unexpected drive/server failures by the time you hit the new volume limit the drives will be at there eol and will need to be replaced anyway.

>>61876066
I'm waiting on two Red 3TB drives to come in for my Q6600 system, I suppose if I tap out the compute capacity on that system I could just use it as a pleb-tier SAN and grab one of the systems I posted.

I know I don't need that much power, but my electricity is included in my rent and it's so damn cheap.

>>61874815
Meh, legality wise, this is no different than letting my buddy borrow the movie to play at his house rather than my own. From an actual legal standpoint, a consumer is allowed to make digital backups of optical media anyway. Honestly though it's more about not getting bitched at by my ISP, and I get to determine the quality of the video/audio/compression rate rather than hoping the pirated stuff I find is passable. Lastly, I enjoy ripping and encoding my collection. Money really isn't an issue, so I don't see a reason to not purchase DVD's and blurays
>>61876071
yup. My paperwhite. Got it on sale for $70 new from Amazon. It's battery life is nuts. Been reading the old Wheel of Time Series.

You need to know how to program to run a server or just be a command line guru? Been using Linux for a week but I'm a turn of the century kid so I hope it's not too late for me to do stuff like host my own mail server with more experience.

>>61876714
Honestly you don't have to be no. Linux is capable of sharing a drive/folder over the network just as easily as windows if you want although no one recommends that.

Just stick with Windows for easy sharing. My Linux based server needed to be restarted once a week because it would always become unresponsive and no longer able to be discovered on the network.

Meanwhile my windows 7 based server has been up for almost 6 months straight. I'll be crucified for saying this of course, but there it is.

>>61876680
Your ISP complains about VPNs or you don't want to shill out/trust third parties?

>>61876680
>a consumer is allowed to make digital backups of optical media anyway
Of optical media you own. Not your buddy's and your buddy isn't allowed to give you his backup either, I'm pretty sure.

I mean, if your buddy can give you his backup, how the fuck is that any different from downloading some other dude's backup from a torrent? Is it legal to torrent if the uploader is a real good friend?

>>61876742
Verizon has sent me a cease and desist letter over downloading music for free. From bandcamp, from a band that had their music up for free. Last time I tried a VPN, my connection speed was drastically reduced. I have a 100/100 connection. I was lucky to see 0.5 down.
>>61876749
I know what you're saying and to some, buying the stuff may seem stupid, but I enjoy having a physical copy of 99% of my stuff.

>>61876798
Having physical copies is fine and all, just don't be under the impression that trading them with your friend is any less illegal than downloading them online.

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>>61869334

>>61876740
Oh alright. Are windows servers packed with stuff trying to make Microsoft money now or are they just command terminals?

>>61869611
I'm sweating just thinking of the heat that puts out, and my ears are ringing from the fans. Get yourself a noise dampening rack or at least stick that shit in ventilated closet.

>>61876714
You should be somewhat comfortable with the command line when you want to run a server. But if all you want is a file server, there are several options like FreeNAS that is mostly configured through a web interface.

Running a mail server is probably not something you should think about doing yet. Securing and maintaining something like that requires some effort. Doing stuff like running a minecraft server and sharing some stuff with samba is easy. Even a basic web server is easy enough.

>>61876812
oh I was never bragging about legal standpoint. Again, it's all about being able use the remux and encode it how I see fit. Regardless, the 2 of us have copies of a lot of the same movies. We both own Jon Wick 1/2 for instance because we both like to support game devs/movie producers/book authors. The only things we share are the stupidly priced TV series. I.e. Breaking Bad was $100.
>>61876820
Have you used windows before? Like any version? Even plain jane windows 7 can be used as a "server" and is still the recommended option even if you're looking to share files and a printer for a place of employment with 15+ people.

As for "stuff trying to make MS money" I have no idea what you're talking about. Nor about the terminals. A server can be as easy and hard as you make it. My Windows 7 based server was fire and forget. Setup the share, properly implement permissions per user, setup automated incremental backup, and don't look back

>>61876740
Not that guy but Linux has ZFS or btrfs, both of which have features that NTFS don't such as data scrubbing. Learning all that is going to be a pain for a Windows pleb like me though.

>>61876860
I thought server versions of Windows would be recommended in order to keep bloat down or something. I've used Windows just not server editions and I thought that would just be all command line for a server edition. I guess this is the wrong place for this but I get paranoid from all the stuff being talked about Windows in the last few years. I know Microsoft is not the only company to sell your data but still. Not like I am hosting porn or anything anyway.

>>61876740
>Linux Mint became unresponsive
You should probably update. A surprising amount of people switch from win to lin and don't realize that updates are actually nectar of the gods and not hot garbage.

You get free features and bug fixes.
>Hey dude, my Mint laptop is slowing down graphically after weeks of suspending and waking up
>apt-get update
>apt-get full-upgrade

>I can't use bumblebee on my laptop
>dnf update

Not a peep since.

>>61876954
Server Windows OS versions are meant for high end. Many users, certain hardware configurations, etc. As far as paranoia, that can be said with anything. Even if you were hosting porn, who cares?
>>61876956
I know all about updating, but who said anything about Linux Mint? I was using Ubuntu with MATE DE.

2TB or 4TB drives in my RAID5/6?
storage space and cost aren't a concern.

>>61875243
>Do old atoms have a planned death thing or something?

no, but it's a nasty bug.
apparently the SoC's clock output to the BIOS is weak and can die after a year or two of continuous output, meaning that the terminal symptom is a complete failure to do anything after a reboot.

i3-530
4GB RAM
GTX 960
Chink SSD + 250GB 2,5" HDD
Linux

Use it for
Owncloud server
Ethereum Wallet (Really has to run 24/7 if I don't want to wait 3 hours until the newest blocks)
Ethereum Mining (Lost like 1,5MHs, hope the GPU won't die soon)

Poor little guy is pretty much on his knees but I believe in him. It's not actually a server and I don't really have knowledge but it just works the way I want and I like watching him knowing he is doing work for me.
Please no bully.

>>61877133
If cost isn't a concern then why not 8TB+? It's a hassle and waste of space to have a lot of small drives.

I have a question for you guys. How resource intensive is it to run a FTP server that would have a max of 5 people on it? Could I run that off a raspberry pi or is that asking to much of it?

>>61877464
>GTX 960
you picked the best card for mining. won't go wrong.

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The main server at the bottom is a Dell R710

Dual Xeon L5520 4 core/8 thread 2.27Ghz CPUs
48gb 1333mhz ECC DDR3

4 320gb 15k rpm SAS drives in RAID 1+0
2 2tb 7.2k rpm Sata drives in RAID 1

This is running VMware and about 4 machines doing different things. The main one is my fileserver with the 2tb drives. Unfortunately I found out the hard way the machine doesn't support 4tb drives. So I ended up swapping out the 2 7200 rpm drives in my main pc for the 4tb 5200 rpm shitslow storage drives. So now my fucking desktop has 10tb of storage and my fucking fileserver has 2tb.

The second server (the one on top of the Xbox, under the Audio interface)

Intel i5 4570T 2.9Ghz 2 cores/ 4 threads
8gb 1600mhz DDR3
256gb SSD

I got this as a living room Netflix machine basically, but then I never used it. So I ended up just installing windows on it and I use it for things that need better single core performance than the R710 can provide.

How hard would it be to build a server that allows others to download shit from me?

I have around 1500 movies, over a hundred tv shows, 3000 books, and over a terabyte of porn.

I'd like to make it so my normie friends and family can pirate with ease.

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raspberry 3 model b with OMV
old 120GB notebook hdd(don't care about the files on it)
I just torrent stuff and than view it, costed like 50$ total and took me 1 hour to set it up.
I have a WD RED drive maybe I hook that up to it too

>>61878767
it wouldn't be too hard to set up a read only apache front end to give access to all of it

>>61878153
The problem with high capacity drives is read/write speeds + read error rates haven't improved in proportion.
This can lead to some shitty experiences with RAID.

Assuming a 50 MB/s rebuild speed:

>2006
>160GB disk rebuilds in an hour

>2017
>6TB disk takes a day to rebuild

So you're running -1 disk in your array for that whole rebuild time.
Also, a full rebuild means that you're reading the whole disk surface, during which a bad sector can be encountered.
High capacity drives still have a similar "error per bajillion bits read" rate, so reading an 8 TB disk means that you are 32 times more likely to have a read error than a 250GB disk.

In 99% of cases you won't have to worry about this stuff, but as a storage guy, these are things I have to consider.

>>61869334
thats a lot of electricity to waste on something pretty shit

>>61869526
banana pi m1 has sata and gigabit ethernet

>>61872662
what do you mean? I wanted protection against hard-drive failure and thats exactly what RAID-1 does. At the time I built the file server, all my data was on a 640 GB external drive, so 2 TB was triple that. The setup has worked flawlessly for the past 3 years

>>61875336
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1DS4VX9128&cm_re=usb3_drive_enclosure-_-0VN-0003-000Z5-_-Product

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>>61879137
>thats a lot of electricity to waste on something pretty shit
OP isnt using much electricity. My 2 servers right now are fairly idle (just backups running) and are using 730 watts combined. Under a full load it would likely go up to 1500 watts.

>>61878153
>I dont know what IOPS are or what queue depth is

>>61879790
That doesn't really look like a home server but if it was I would chastise you for using 1000 times more power than necessary

>>61879960
>bixnood.net
>not for home use

>>61872673
Data hoarding, accessing content out of home remotely(so the laptop/tablet/smartphone does not require large storage spaces nor syncing across each other), showing off etc.

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HP microserver | JBOD 2tb + 3 x 1tb | OMV
transmission, windows backup and other things, it does what i need it to do.

EEE 900HA | Ubuntu 14.04
testing out scripts, ssh into network, print server with cups

Rpi (first gen B I think)
I used to run pihole but didn't like it, I need to try this again because the UI looks really good compared to what I last used over a year ago

I also used to run tranmssion and a usb hdd and it worked okay, not the fastest thing in the world but it did work.


DIR-615 | DD-WRT
It works okay, not bad for a $20 soapbox

I might try and get a laptop working with pfsense, I will use a USB Ethernet adapter, but my net is ADSL so it wont effect speed.

>>61880092
it's kind of cool to have somewhere to just dump stuff from any device and access it with any other that doesn't involve scattering it around in various thumbdrives or transmitting it to some distant server farm owned by a questionable organisation

>>61869334

Dell Precision T5500 Workstation
2x Intel Xeon Processor E5645 @ 2.4GHZ (24 logical cores total)
48 GB DDR-3 ECC Registered
5x 1Gb/s Ethernet
1x Samsung 128GB SSD (for boot OS)
NAS 2x 4TB RAID-1 (for VM storage)
VMWare ESXi 6.5

>>61880651
>bragging about "logical" cores
what a fag

>>61880666

thats whats important need when running VM's retard

>>61880675
>i dont understand what cache is
>i think they're the same as actual cores
and no it does damned near nothing for VMs, you're just trying to make it sound like your shitbox is somehow impressive. there is a good reason why VMware doesn't add them to the CPU GHz capacity counters

>>61880725
>I have no idea what I'm taking about so I'm going to spout nonsense...

Virtualization is one of the few areas where the additional task scheduler becomes actually useful. Webservers are another.

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>>61880725
>CPU GHz capacity counters

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>>61881584
>I dont understand what cache is either

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>>61869334

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>>61881682
That's the home server (it cannot run E5440, because HP's jews disabled 54xx CPU support via BIOS).
And here goes desktop.
E5-2640, 2 cores of six total are disabled for less TDP and more freq.

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Fuck, I just checked and my data volume is almost full. Ah well, I don't plan to add a lot more to it for a while so this will do till 2018 at least. I've got a pair of 2TB drives I can toss in if need be.

>>61882407
>nekrotik cloudshit instead of switch/router
I rorudo. They're making not bad SOHO solutions, but not L3 switches/border routers.

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dell poweredge 710. i have NBN so i bonded three connections to get pretty first world internet speeds
pretty nice for the price i got it for
still trying to figure out what to do with it
just using it as a NAS is a waste

>>61882634
these are literally the CRS line, I only use the switch chips, additionally CRS317-16S+ soon.

>>61882636
>NBN

you trying to trigger me cunt I'm on week 7 of no internet connection other than phone

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>>61882407
>>61882528

>>61882634
CCR line

>>61882636
why not just pay for vocus?

how are you bonding the connections?

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>>61882665
dont hate me too much, i get ultra cucked just as bad as the next man
for example, heres the result of a speedtest right now at peak time in my area
bear in mind this is across 3 bonded 100/40 fiber optic lines, 2 optus 1 telstra

when i speedtest this at 3am i get about 230mbps

tp link load balancing router

>>61882741
>766kb
do you think I'm made out of kilobytes

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>>61882741

>>61882768
im not east coast

>>61882703
I mean, that we're using CCR for switching and VPN termination.
i3 with same RouterOS does VPNs better, and cheaper.

>>61882828
*we had used
For now, it's working just as switch with VLANs.

>>61882828
Louis?

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>>61882760

>>61882922
What the fuck. And that with three connections? I would still take that over what I have now though, which is nothing.

>>61869745
There's really not a whole lot of reasons. Absolute control over and availability of your data. Whatever fringe benefits come with that (streaming, etc). Besides that, I think it's more about professional development than anything else. And in that case it's usually cheaper to just rent and virtualize.

>>61883163
you never need all those episodes of dragonball offline until you do

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Raidz3
11x8 TB Seagate Archive
Pentium 1508 dual score
Supermicro mobo

>>61879790
do you need 1500w for backups?

>>61883800
Nice.

Hope the drive aren't too hot.
Under load passively cooled arrays can get surprisingly spicy which will increase the incidence of error.

>>61879790
>730 watts
That's the equivalent of leaving all the lights on 24/7. I never really understood this obsession with having shit running all the time, unless you are running a website or something. I simply collect things on my desktop, and back them up to my server, and ocassionally stream those files to devices on my network. Power bill doesn't take a hit, and I don't have to live in fear of my server being hacked because the Chinks don't have limitless access to it.

>>61883925

/dev/sda: CT250BX100SSD1: 29°C
/dev/sdb: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 29°C
/dev/sdc: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 31°C
/dev/sdd: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 29°C
/dev/sde: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 29°C
/dev/sdf: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 32°C
/dev/sdg: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 33°C
/dev/sdh: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 33°C
/dev/sdi: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 31°C
/dev/sdj: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 30°C
/dev/sdk: ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z: 31°C

Pretty good so far, though there's already errors in one file. :/

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>>61884097
>RAIDz3
>Checksum error
What the fuck.

Two RAIDz1 vdevs here, I got a single checksum error in a file I can live without but I was pretty freaked by the fact that there was a large enough coincidence to cause the same blocks to sour.

Perhaps it was a firmware bug in my greens that caused them both to make that mistake simultaneously.
I should have mixed and matched brands at the same RPM.

Only error to date though.

>>61884392
Do a full check on the files though I had that problem once and It crashed and burned my entire array more then once( Then I migrated to RED's because they got cheaper, and then I fucked off back to jbob because I diden't have enough ECC RAM)
Also did you disable intellipark with WDIDLE3 ?

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box that sits on 2 LANs for physical isolation

>>61869334
>carpet in the server closet

Any suggestions for Proxmox alternatives?

>>61884741
plain loonix distro of your choice and QEMU/KVM on it and manage it over SSH with virt-manager or directly through CLI
works very well for simple home setups without autistic needs tbqh

>>61869526
No. Pis are terrible NASes and should be avoided at all costs. If you're super poor, get a c2d machine like OP.

>>61880651
>(24 logical cores total)
Just call it 12c/14t, no need to make it seem more impressive to the uninformed.

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Didnt see that it was this dusty down there...
Lives under my desk in heavilty modded antec 900 case
custom dust filters
VERY quiet

Hosts:
All drives except boot as NAS
Web server
~250 torrents ~3.5TB
VM with 3 music streaming bots
Passthrough for gaming machine for in-home streaming outside home

>>61883800
How much was this build? Im looking to build something similar.

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>>61884994
A bit less than $5000 Canadian. The HDDs were the most expensive part. It also has 16 GB of RAM which is overkill as barely half of it is being used and I already had a PSU and some case fans.

>>61869745
Bitrot, freenas Samba server for your local area raid 10 storage solution.

>>61885203
Thats some shitty preformance. I have a lga 755 quad core with 8gb of non-ecc ram running 4 x 3tb hdd in raid 10.

>>61884741
Are you having issues with Proxmox? I installed it yesterday on a 10 year old dual core laptop, and was amazed at how well it ran. I had an Ubuntu Server Container and a Gentoo VM running on it just so I could familiarize myself with the set up and controls. I really want to get it installed on some decent hardware now.

>>61884803
are you going to qualify that statement? I'm using a pi2, not even 3, and it's perfectly capable of transmitting data around my house or doing anything else I can even think of

>not using freenas and using zfs.

>>61885289
Yes.

I have been trying for a few days now to get GPU passthrough to work and it doesn't seem to want to work at all.

Really annoying because the rest of it looks pretty nice.

>>61885288
How much power does it use, though? I chose parts with the idea of keeping it low power in mind. I've got it connected to a Kill-a-Watt meter now and it's costing $23/mo (Canadian). Seems pretty reasonable.

>>61885294
It's technical max speed is ~11MB/s, but in reality it's more like 1-5MB/s. Any decent NAS is 100MB/s.

It's fine for a little seedbox but it's painfully slow, terrible for acctual NAS use.

>>61885361
Like $10usd/per month. Low cost electricity and I turn it off when I sleep so it's mostly idle or off.

My eth mining pc uses about $50 worth of power each month the same profit I'm making.

>>61885361
So how many watts exactly?
You got a really weak CPU for that expensive price. A full power CPU doesnt draw much at idle either way. What if you want to do more with it in the future?

>>61885377
what I really wanted was a synology 216 or whatever, I already have 2 3tb drives. I'm working really damn hard to not spend money when I don't have to though, and make proper use of what I already have, and settle for "good enough". I have many old computers I could have used but the thought of one of them vibrating 24/7 sucking down the earth's vital resources is deeply irritating to me. If I felt like I wasn't getting enough bandwidth I would upgrade to a banana pi m1 which isn't more expensive than a pi 3 but has sata and gigabit ethernet.

>>61885449
>Like $10usd/per month. Low cost electricity and I turn it off when I sleep so it's mostly idle or off.
>
>My eth mining pc uses about $50 worth of power each month the same profit I'm making.
Nice.

>>61885519
>So how many watts exactly?
45.90 KWHrs / 119 Volts
>You got a really weak CPU for that expensive price. A full power CPU doesnt draw much at idle either way. What if you want to do more with it in the future?
Plan on using it for an always-on torrentbox and for streaming the music and movies/tv that are on it. It's been okay so far, though it's often at full load when transferring files. One thing I would change if I were doing it again is to get a CPU with a fan, because with passive cooling, as I initially intended, the CPU temp was at 104 degrees under load.

>>61876040
i got one g6 for $400 shipped with 72gb and 8x 300, not a bad deal for 2 years ago.
the other g6's were free

>>61871920
besides the long commit times it works great

>>61876834
the firewall is louder than everything else combined and then some, the g6's are near silent, the switch is the only other thing that actually makes any constant noise.
the heat could be better, but since they live in their own room its not a big deal and it doesnt affect the rest of my place

>>61879790
why does it use so much doing nothing? a normal desktop pc works fine with less than 100w even under load.

>>61884075
It doesn't matter really when you're paying $0.04/kwh. It sounds like you spend more on tin foil.

>>61878673
>full height rack
>a single 1U device mounted to it

>>61885887
>45.90 KWHrs
So about 60w? Wouldnt have been much more with a normal CPU and you'd have a lot more headroom. Already maxed out doesnt sound good.

>>61886729
It is pretty stupid when people buy cheap used servers because they are cheap when they could have gotten something modern that would not only be better but pay off in the long run. Even with low electricity prices. 750w @ 0.04$ is still $20/mo

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>>61878673
>Son, why do you have to put that monstrosity in your room? Your mother and I can hear it from the living room!

>>61869334
xeon e3 1265l v2 @2.5ghz
16gb ram
esxi
6x2tb drives in raid 6 in freenas
then I also have a w520 with 32 gigs of ram also hosting random stuff.

>>61884449
I did disable the intellipark, head parking is hell on disks.

They just don't come with TLER.

I confirmed where the damage was located about 43 seconds into a home video it skips a little.

>>61887197
The average home server is not going to be pulling 750w continuous. Most in this thread probably idle at 100w max.

>>61886729
16.07 cents/kwh here, there, chum.

>>61884449
Even tho everyone says you need ecc ram with zfs even if the ram you have throws junk on the drives the raid checksum will catch it and if it overwrites with junk the you will just have more and more checksums mismatching, replace bad ram or motherboard.

I have 8gb of non ecc ram in my freenas server because my board doesn't support ecc ram. Is ecc with zfs really a meme or no? My server has been running fine for 3 years now with zero instances of corrupted data.

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>>61887392
Ummm wut

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>>61887457

>>61887391
I know, but old servers draw more.

>>61887435
I have crashed and burned down multiple ZFS pools do corruption from ram but it might just be me.

>>61886671
>over 60VMs
>nothing

>home PC
>in anyway comparable to a two node cluster with 36 cores, 288GB RAM, 3.8TB flash, 64TB HDD, and 8x 10GbE

>>61872871
Lossless, right?

If I use a raid 10 setup in one raid enclosure, can I move the hard drives in a another enclosure and have it work?

>>61869334
What would I need on hardware if I wanted to use one of my homeservers for imaging (Clonezilla, etc.), using that for netBoiot and stuff.

>>61890366
If it is a SAS enclosure and connected to the same type of RAID card then yes. If it is some ghetto raid in a box enclosure then who the fuck knows.

>>61890366
it will be a foreign config and all you can do is pray to the raid gods that it imports successfully

>>61889461
never really answered the question.
>over 60VMs
>in anyway comparable to a two node cluster with 36 cores, 288GB RAM, 3.8TB flash, 64TB HDD, and 8x 10GbE

equivalent of saying, over9000 horsepower, 0-60 in 1.5 seconds
or
it can tow over 9000 tons and has a hemi with duallys

yeah your system is crazy fast, but why do you need/want it.

>>61891206
homelab and high availability. I can do things like take a node offline for maintenance and not lose access to data or services.

I have an old Inspiron 570 that I'm finally replacing, should I stuff it full of 8TB drives and RAM and a new PSU and put it to work?

What is a home server for?

>>61889461
How much did all that shit cost you?

>>61891464
Serving files

>>61891464
Torrents, VPN, SSH proxy, file server, media server, safe(r) file storage

>>61891488
A lot. I mean the motherboards alone were $500 each.

why do people waste over 90% of their hdd space for raid? do they not have files to store on those wasted drives or do they think that raid is backup?

>>61891627
>why do people waste over 90% of their hdd space for raid?
I'm assuming that's hyperbole, since even a super-redundant array isn't going to be using more than 50% of drives for redundancy.

Full backups are expensive. You either need LTO, extra hard drives to just set in the closet (both tape and hard drive will flip bits over time), or drop like $40/TB on optical backups.

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>>61891783
>I'm assuming that's hyperbole, since even a super-redundant array isn't going to be using more than 50% of drives for redundancy.
It will, see three way mirroring in Storage Spaces Direct for example.

And regarding backing up to disk, pic related

>>61871203
Do you have a recommendation for a Blu-ray drive?

I would like to rip Blu-ray but don't have one in any PC

How do I build a home server just for personal use? My budget is like $200.

>>61891874
Get any trash pc and install server software on it.

Done.

>>61891874
Find a laptop on ebay with a broken screen.
Super low power, low noise, and just expand it with external hard drives when you need more space.

>>61891900
>>61891887
I have my grandmother's old desktop, what drives should I fill it with?

>>61891823
Why would you use three way mirroring when you can use parity to achieve a much more efficient storage ratio with similar redundancy?

>>61891904
I use WD Reds, they seem to be built well.

>>61891927
performance with Scale Out File Server and SMB multichannel.

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>>61879790
that is pretty fucking inefficient

my 3 hosts with switch and firewall are pulling under 600

>>61891984
You have lower end machines which is why you're using like 15-20% less power.

>>61891927
Last I heard WD Reds are the shittiest, have they changed?

>>61870409
This actually happened to ours at work.

If and when they brick is totally at random. We were lucky enough to rebuild the RAID with the replacement they sent us.

>Which will eventually brick too

>>61869814
Unless there's a fire/flood

>>61892002
x5670's are not necessary low end hardware, if i was using older equipment i would be pulling more energy, not less

>>61892024
They're the NAS drive, blues are the pleb desktop drives.
Seagate has had some bad runs of faulty drives.

>>61892135
>x5670's are not necessary low end hardware
They're over 7 years old. They are 0.185 Ghz per watt of TDP, compared to 0.231 Ghz per watt of TDP for my E5-2660 v2.

This also ignores that you have significantly less RAM, SSDs, HDDs, 10 GbE NICs, etc.

>>61892188
Sweet, anywhere to get them super cheap?

>>61892331
WD student store has decent deals.

>>61892345
Thanks for all the help.

>>61892216
i guess, 16 10ks and 4 assorted other drives, and cpus that are barely lower on benchmarks. whatever helps you sleep at night

i remember you though, the kid who gets all defensive and the outlandish naming convention, you are adorable when you try to act tough :3

>>61892383
>25% less performance
>barely lower

>no 10GbE
>barely lower

>small disks
>barely lower

>no SSDs
>barely lower

>no GPUs
>barely lower

>no raid cards which require PCIE power connectors
>barely lower

>probably some linksys shitbox, not Cisco
>barely lower

Anyways stay btfo that youre using low end legacy hardware which is more inefficient than mine and were too retarded to realize this

Is a Xeon X3470 server still good enough?

I'm new to purchasing network hardware and I'm looking to get a 2port or 4 port gigabit NIC.
Could you steer to towards some good models or cheap ex enterprise stuff on the cheap?
Thanks

>>61893388
Search ebay for broadcom or intel 4 port gigabit, buy cheapest one.

>>61893388
Why? 10GbE is cheap.

nas and seedbox:
6x assorted 2tb shitdrives in raidz2
some celeron or some shit
supermicro motherboard
8gb ecc ram

linux dickery:
hp laptop, pentium? 2gb ram? 80 or 120gb hdd? i dunno lol

workstation:
i7 6700
32 gb ram
240gb ssd

gayyming:
i5 4590
16gb ram
280x
240gb ssd + terabyte hdd

a brother "prosumer" laser mfp

wrt54g ddwrt
some cisco "small business" router/ap acting as a bridged ap
some shitty consumer walmart router plugged into some ip cameras and the second nic on my supermicro board

>>61869838
what enclose is this?

What's the best way to seperate my private network into two private networks without VLANs?

I dont want to fuck with the "normal" network because I have room mates and I dont want to use VLANs at the moment.

Currently the network is addressed with the private address of 10.0.0.x with the wireless router, and then NAT into my ISP

Couldn't I just address my private network with 192.168.x.x and connect via the WAN my wired router into the wireless router and use the normal wireless router as a gateway?

You could, that's called double NAT.
Hosts on the double NATed network could have problems playing online games, VPNs, anything that requires a direct connection.

Just set up VLANs, it's like 10 commands total, and then connect your wireless router through one of its LAN ports to act as a dumb AP and not a router.

>>61894123
Where would I have to put the switch? Wouldnt I have to connect the switch to the wireless router? Then make the VLAN for my room mates and then one for me, or just one VLAN and have the roommates traffic untagged. I would probably have to buy an AP or something for them perhaps.

I only know how to do this on an enterprise level really

>>61894188
>I only know how to do this on an enterprise level really
No you dont if you're asking retarded questions like this

>>61894123
No you dont have to do double NAT you retard. You lack the most basic knowledge of routing.

>>61894213
>No you dont if you're asking retarded questions like this
yeah, you set up VLANs per department if you want, have them trunked to a router or a layer 3 switch then to a router then NAT to WAN

but alright, please, what would be a good set up for my scenario for home?

>>61894250
You literally can't do what you want without VLANs. Even with the retarded suggestion of >>61894123 it would still have two different broadcast domains. They'll be the default/untagged VLAN on both end, but VLANs will still be used.

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Explain to me how it's retarded.
If he has one router plugged into the other, it's going to be double natted. Here's an easy picture I found.

If he just sets up 2 VLANs, and then uses the LAN port on his consumer wireless router, the AP won't NAT the wireless network either.

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Alright, I just made it in packet tracer really quick

So this configuration would not work because it requires double NAT as it has to NAT from the 192.168.x.x network into the 10.x.x.x network then NAT again to the ISP

based on this image, what would be the best place to put the switch to VLAN and tag my private traffic and untag VLAN from my roommates traffic

Anyone use Unraid ? Been loving it so far

>>61894346
>Explain to me how it's retarded.
For one you cant even reply to a post. Secondly needless using double NAT is retarded. Third you dont understand how to perform the most basic of routing tasks. NAT is completely unnecessary between domains 1 and 2 in your shitty graphic. And finally it is still using two different VLANs.

>>61894351
Connect a layer 3 switch to the DLC100, that is all you need to do.

>>61894071
>Two seperate networks without VLAN's
one router, seperate address space.
idk what router you have (if a linux OS and terminal access this is easy), but heres the run down:
router needs two interfaces on private side. i running linux, can use virtual interface and are easiest option
router using one real, one virtual interface (virtual interface is on physical private-side device)
routers private pysical and virtual interfaces are configured to use separate networks.
hosts connect to router and either: DHCP by mac, or have static network settings which place them into the segregated networks.
router provides nat'ing to both networks
solved

>>61894431
clarify, bad english:
router configured to have a second, virtual interface on private side in addition to its normal physical interface on public side. very easy if terminal shell on linux router

these two interfaces on private side should be in different networks.

clients connect to router on the different networks either by mac based dhcp or static network configuration

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>>61884097

I've got an old mac pro 1,1 i was thinking of using as a server but the 980w psu breaks my electricity bills heart
Rip the server dream

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>>61894391
Oh, I get it, you just can't read.
I was explaining what's going to happen if he plugs his second router in to his first. If it's a consumer model with a "WAN" port, it's going to NAT between those two networks.

Wasn't advocating that he does it. In fact, I warned him of potential problems, and suggested he make VLANs.

>>61894351
Here's how to do it with the equipment you have

>>61894391
>Connect a layer 3 switch to the DLC100, that is all you need to do.

Alright, that seems pretty reasonable

So create a VLAN with the multilayer switch with my shit in it and trunk it to the DLC100

This configuration wouldnt affect my roommates.

The thing is that I did actually want a router because I'm studying for my CCNA

>>61894431
>>61894452
that kinda sounds like VLANs to be honest

>>61894351
I use a setup basically identical to that at home and it works fine. on the private side it actually goes Gateway, Router, Router, Switch, [computer, computer, computer]

>>61892430
>GPUs

Looks like someone watches youtube videos on how to make epic gaming machines!

And the 2650 is not that big of a deal

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-X5670-vs-Intel-Xeon-E5-2650-v2

>>61894431
>one router, seperate address space.
It would still be two different broadcast domains ie: VLANS.

>>61894459
That is even more unnessecary.

>>61894467
You're not using trunks. Create a layer 3 interface on the switch and connect it to the DLC100. Then set the default route on the switch to the DLC100. Then setup ACLs on the layer 3 interface to block communications with whatever IP address range the DLC100 uses for the other clients.

A layer 3 switch is a router.

>>61894494
nigger no one cares about your shitty benchmark website.

>>61894459
Well for this I may as well just buy an AP, have my roommates connect to that and have their traffic untagged and my shit tagged

The thing is that I dont want to change the topology of my network and I want to be able to fuck with the network for my CCNA studies without affecting my roommates, also I dont want to be responsible to the networking in my area

>>61872977
hilarious

>>61894518
>Well for this I may as well just buy an AP, have my roommates connect to that and have their traffic untagged and my shit tagged
Again this is wrong. Dont use the default VLAN for user traffic.

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>>61892430
>>no raid cards which require PCIE power connectors

>HARD
>WARE
>RAID
>Year of our lord + 2017

>>61894476
this is what I want, but it would still be the same network unless you address the computers to the 2nd switch differently, then you would have to NAT into the other network for WAN access

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>>61894544
Yes. I use it to RAID 0 a bunch of Seagate 600 Pro enterprise class SSDs to present to Starwind VSAN. Also they're presented as cache drives for Storage Spaces Direct.

>>61894515
>Create a layer 3 interface on the switch
The whole reason I had it as router-on-a-stick was because the 2950 is a layer 2 switch.

>>61894518
If you wanna make a lab, do it and don't have it integrated into the infrastructure of your actual network.

Just let everyone in the house share your all-in-one router/wireless AP and then build a lab and attach it to the network.

>>61894527
>Again this is wrong. Dont use the default VLAN for user traffic.
Why not though in this case? I know that the native VLAN is used for administration and what not, but I honestly do not see the harm of having that traffic untagged

whats wrong with software raid?

I went from a bios raid to a software raid for my home server and noticed little if any difference on sql lookups

>>61894559
>The whole reason I had it as router-on-a-stick was because the 2950 is a layer 2 switch.
What 2950 is it? Does it have a letter after it? Some of them back be upgraded to IP Lite firmware. Otherwise just get a 3750G/E or 3560G/E on ebay for under $100. You'll even get 10GbE ports

>>61894561
>Why not though in this case?
Its a security risk, and if he wants to segregate his traffic from his roommates its a bad idea
https://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/32737/why-should-the-native-vlan-never-be-used

>>61887392
>>61887457
>>61887506
>>61888130
Nice one fags, here in the South of Brazil we pay ~$0.46/kWh. (Local Currency)

>>61882681
Nice proxmox anon.

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>>61894556
>I paid 1-2 grand for less RAM caching than ZFS arc can dynamically provide
>It's DDR3
>Firmware issues seldom patched
>It saves the disk configuration to it's internal memory preventing external rebuild in case of controller failure
>Uses over 150 watts to get the job done
>And put it in RAID 0 mode guaranteeing bad data delivery if one solid state fucks up

>>61894515
>You're not using trunks. Create a layer 3 interface on the switch and connect it to the DLC100. Then set the default route on the switch to the DLC100. Then setup ACLs on the layer 3 interface to block communications with whatever IP address range the DLC100 uses for the other clients.
yeah I think I could see ACLs working with this actually, but it wouldnt really fit into my CCNA lab because I need an actual switch as well

>>61894559
>If you wanna make a lab, do it and don't have it integrated into the infrastructure of your actual network.
this is my goal, but I dont want to affect my roommates when I fuck around for my CCNA shit

> build a lab and attach it to the network.
yeah but I was trying to separate the network, but double NAT wouldnt be sufficient so I guess I will do VLANs or better yet, this >>61894515
with ACLs

>>61894612
>>I paid 1-2 grand for less RAM caching than ZFS arc can dynamically provide
Nigger I'm using Starwind VSAN. I can use as much RAM cache as I want.

>>It's DDR3
so

>>Firmware issues seldom patched
What are you talking about? I updated the firmware on it like a month ago. Its a $1500 RAID card.

>>It saves the disk configuration to it's internal memory preventing external rebuild in case of controller failure
No it doesnt you retard it is saved to all the disks

>>Uses over 150 watts to get the job done
A 6 pin PCIE power connector is incapable of supplying this much power

>>And put it in RAID 0 mode guaranteeing bad data delivery if one solid state fucks up
They're enterprise class SSDs in a hyperconverged cluster. I can lose an entire server and the data remains online. How fucking retarded are you?

>>61894617
>but it wouldnt really fit into my CCNA lab because I need an actual switch as well
A layer 3 switch is a switch and a router.

>>61894617
>when I fuck around for my CCNA shit
Just use VIRL

I have a raspi server and like half a dozen varying storage/sizu drives. I want a USB hub for all of them. How silly am I?

>>61894649
>A layer 3 switch is a switch and a router.
dammit, I know, it operates on the network layer of the OSI model, I wanted a physical switch for my lab, but do they even have WAN ports?

>>61894649
>VIRL
packet tracer is dope, but I wanted hands on and do some server shit too for plex or something

>>61894589
Are you sure you're not thinking of the 3750?
2950s are quite old, they only had 10/100 access ports and GBICs for uplinks.

>>61894671
On a layer 3 switch, any port can be a WAN port.

>>61894671
>physical switch
I meant router

>>61894676
>On a layer 3 switch, any port can be a WAN port.
ah okay, I didnt know that

>>61894671
>WAN ports
What are you talking about? A router has no concept this.

Do you mean can you do NAT with it? If so no, the only Catalysts which can do NAT are the 6500/6800 series and you do not want one of those at home. It'll use a couple kW worth of power.

>but I wanted hands on and do some server shit too for plex or something
Just buy a layer 3 switch

>>61894676
>2950s are quite old, they only had 10/100 access ports and GBICs for uplinks.
There are many kinds of 2950s which is why I asked if his had a letter after it

>>61894689
I am 95% sure there is no model of the 2950 that supports 10G.

>>61894689
I have to be overthinking this then

ISP>router>router (different addressing)>switch>my shit

this seemed like a novel and simple idea, initially

>>61894708
I never said there was. I said some 2950s support IP Lite firmware which would allow basic layer 3 routing. I said 3560E/3750Es support 10GbE. Go back and reread my post.

>>61894723
>I have to be overthinking this then
You are
ISP->DLC100->Layer 3 switch->your shit
|-> Your room mates

>>61894755
fuck me
>ISP->DLC100->Layer 3 switch->your shit
>|-> Your room mates

ISP->DLC100->Layer 3 switch->your shit
       |-> Your room mates

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>>61894755

Alright then, how would the inclusion of the layer 3 switch separate the network? It would be different broadcast domains sure, but I can't see how it would separate

I'm sure I am just being retarded

>>61869334
> Debian 7 Wheezy (no GUI installed)
Jeezuz man, update it already.

>>61894795
>I'm sure I am just being retarded
You are. They're separated at both layer 2 and layer 3 in your pic. You setup ACLs on the layer 3 interface on the 3560 to prevent communication between your subnet(s) and whatever subnet the DLC100 uses for Laptop0 and 1

>>61894755
Well hot damn, looks like it's bedtime for me.

>>61894795
>You setup ACLs on the layer 3 interface on the 3560 to prevent communication between your subnet(s) and whatever subnet the DLC100 uses for Laptop0 and 1

Alright this seems like it would work, then what do you think the addressing should be?

ISP > NAT > DLC100 10.0.0.x 255.255.255.0 > roommates

how should I address my shit logically?

>>61894891
>how should I address my shit logically?
However the fuck you want to, it doesnt really matter. I just use 10.VLAN.CLASS.x/16
with class being things like physical static IPs, virtual static IPs and DHCP

>>61894927
Sorry for taking up your time dude, I'm just inexperienced but passionate which is the whole fucking reason why I'm labbing for CCNA

Okay so, I put a ACL for incoming to block connections from the 10.0.0.x network in the layer 3 switch and have the layer 3 switch gateway into the wireless router?

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>>61894999
forgot pic

>>61894999
yes

>>61895022
well how is this different than what I explained here just without the ACLs? >>61894071

>>61894556
Now I know you're full of shit. Storage Spaces doesn't generally like anything not JBOD, and Storage Spaces Direct won't provision any spindle that it doesn't have direct control over.

>>61895037
My recommendation is using VLANs

>>61895053
You're a retard.

(Get-Cluster).S2DBusTypes=256

allows it to use RAID devices and

(Get-Cluster).S2DBusTypes=4294967295

allows it to use any kind of device.

>>61895068
>My recommendation is using VLANs
are you even the same guy I was talking to?

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>>61895053
further proof

>>61895085
fuck if i know, several people have been talking to you. which one.

>>61895095
this guy >>61894927

>>61895101
yes thats me

>>61895108
okay

now that I think about it seriously, I think this >>61895014 would work, have the layer 3 switch gateway into the DLC100 and just do ACLs for the roommates in the 10.0.0.x network

I honestly can not see how this would not work

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>>61895136
it will work and its the way you should be doing this. there is no reason to have a discrete router between the switch and the DLC100 unless you really need the specific functional a discrete router would provide, such as better QoS (or if you had a recent router) iWAN. Chances are for whatever you're doing a layer 3 switch will be good enough.

>>61895053
moar proofs

>>61895210
>it will work and its the way you should be doing this. there is no reason to have a discrete router between the switch and the DLC100 unless you really need the specific functional a discrete router would provide, such as better QoS (or if you had a recent router) iWAN. Chances are for whatever you're doing a layer 3 switch will be good enough.
Alright great, thanks for the information

That image will pretty much will be my topology for my network

>>61882636
that's not outside, is it?

>>61869968
You use a reverse proxy to present content from a server. This is so the client doesn't realise, because they don't need to be aware, where the files actually come from. Proxies can also inject into the content retrieved as required. It's good practice to keep your file servers just a little bit more hidden.

>>61875338
What the fuck did you just say

>>61876812
Shut the fuck up. You've dragged this discussion out way too long without even how stupid you sound.

Motherfucker he's doing the equivalent of burning a copy of a new cd for his mate, which every single human being ever has done

>>61891235
Can you make a trip so I can filter you?

>>61897585
no

>>61891235
> I can do things like take a node offline for maintenance and not lose access to data or services
> And then I can... Bring it back online! That's what I can do! See?

>>61897738
>i wish i had hyper converged storage
>the post

>>61897755
Thanks, I'll be fine with my GlusterFS on top of the RAID10-backed servers.

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>>61882768
?

>>61897819
how are the sheep?

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>>61897766
>doesn't support dedup

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>>61897836
ok

>>61876817
why the fuck did you overwrite the capacity on that last drive

>>61878448
rpi would do that fine.

>>61882528
>poweredges
disgusting

that shit starting up would wake your entire fucking street

>>61898136
thats why you cool them well and set power limits

>>61894024
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15U-600mm-Black-Wall-Cabinet-Network-Data-Rack-For-Patch-Panel-PDU-LAN-Switch-/161541070020

that one iirc

>>61894071
>>61894431
>>61894452
>>61894467
>>61894515
>without VLAN

1) Do you know what a VLAN is? Do you know why you dont want it?

2) I dont know how many different people are in these responses, but the answer is actually pretty fucking simple

SUBNET

>>61898191
subnets dont provide isolation between two networks you tard. all his room mates have to do is change their IPs

>>61897837
Dedup is a convenience (and RAM intensive). RAID is not backup.

>>61898214
>subnets dont provide isolation between two networks
Are you at all going to think about what you just said?

>>61898218
>i dont have 288GB RAM
>i dont have cases full of disks

>>61898224
read the rest of the post you retard

>>61894659
its gonna fucking crawllllllllllllllllllll

>>61898241
>read the rest of the post you retard
did you really read his initial post?

subnetting would keep his lab away from everyone elses traffic without using vlans. that was literally all he asked for.

i dont think hes aware your l3 suggestions and topology maps still requires him to use vlans to separate the traffic.

>>61898282
>i dont understand why you would want to segment broadcast domains
>i dont know what STP is or why it is used

>i dont think hes aware your l3 suggestions and topology maps still requires him to use vlans to separate the traffic.
he is, read the thread

this thread has gone to full turbo-autistic argumenting thread between two networkniggers apparently, sad. rip server thread

>>61898569
>rip server thread
its been at the bump limit for more posts than they have been network chatting tho.