what do you guys think about Signal? Is it any safe to use or

>>61848396
who cares? what information do you have that is so discrete? and who could you possibly be chatting to that would also care about their privacy as much as your paranoid self

I use it as my default SMS application. Not because I have secrets that the FBI gives a shit about. I just prefer the dark theme they added.

>not on F-droid
Just use Silence

>>61848396
Easily the encrypted chat app with the most credibility among the serious crypto community.

>>61848414
Personally i dont have secrets as much but i believe that others do and i believe they should be able to keep them so I choose to participate in service that make it as hard as possible for authorities to snoop around in anybody's private messages

>>61848414
Please leave 4chan

>>61848563
>deliberately harvests users' real identities

>credibility as privacy software

Choose one, Snowflake McSparkledog

>>61848617
>>deliberately harvests users' real identities
pls explain

If you're not rolling your own xmpp server and using conversations then you don't really care about privacy or security.

>>61848644
>what is tox
The only problem with it is that none of your friends will be using it. But that's true of almost any other meme messaging app - except for the ones which allow you to communicate in plaintext with other clients, but that defeats the purpose anyway.

>>61848633
Using phone numbers as user IDs makes Signal one NSL from the government secretly having a complete record of the exact identity of every person who uses Signal and who they talk to. Signal isn't new, so the likelihood that isn't already the case is zero, too...

>>61848396
Just renamed messenger.

>>61848537
Seems cool, thanks.

>>61848414
https://www.ted.com/talks/glenn_greenwald_why_privacy_matters

Git schooled, Kid.

>>61848727
The people i need to talk to over omemo on xmpp understand the requirement of 100% privacy and security. I'm not talking to normies on my server and im not talking to normies period.

>>61848396
It has a loot of weird google services dependencies.

Its shit.

>>61848396
i use it on the reg
the android client is decent, but it is lacking some features in the videocall department
the desktop client is a piece of shit

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>depends on gapps
>made by an undercover jew nsa agent
>Is it any safe to use?

to anyone concerned, it does not depend on gapps
if you don't have any push providers in your phone, the app stays in background polling the servers
also, it works perfectly using microg

>>61848396
It's trash. It could be excellent by it requires my phone number therefore it's utter garbage.

>>61848644
Is Prosody any good?

>>61850315
This.

>>61850333
Try registering without gaaps

>>61850404
No problem.

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He is even scared to use his real jew surname.

Matthew Rosenfeld

>>61848865
>I don't talk to people
Sad.

>>61850404
i have never had any gapps in my phone
nor the appstore (I use apkpure) and I use it without issues

maybe the new versions are capped or something

>>61850462
That's good than, It didn't register without gapps a few years ago.

>>61848396
Shit features. I prefer Telegram over this

>>61850462
>I use apkpure
enjoy your botnet

>>61850494
what botnet, lad
>no registration
>no background process
>no notifications

>>61850462
Check out aptoid, it's free software.

https://github.com/Aptoide/aptoide-client-v8/

>>61850543
>don't worry, we just gonna host a shitload of apps and endure a lot of bandwidth for free, goyim

>>61850553
I did, and oh boi that shit is horrible
baked apks from random people
how do you even think it is better than apkpure, my lads

>>61850565
who the fuck cares
the apks are good
and i know how to use my device permissions to avoid any type of botnet behaviour
hands down, best place to get the 2-3 apks I need that are missing from fdroid

>>61850590
>baked apks from random people
use only the official repo by aptoid not random people than.

>>61850953
give me a real reason to not use APKpure

>offers privacy
>Free

I dont fool myself into thinking I have privacy on any of my devices anymore regardless of how much I try to implement it, so why even bother when they have backdoors and workarounds for everything.

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>>61850995
I don't have any, try not showing that you are a faggot, I just suggested you to check out aptoide.

>>61851040
>I just suggested you to check out aptoide
I told you I already did, and pointed facts about how bad it is
I also told you how and why I use APKpure

>try not showing that you are a faggot
what
nevermind

>>61851089
>I told you I already did, and pointed facts about how bad it is
Except you didn't. And you didn't counter my argument here>>61850953

I use wire. Swiss based works on phones, Windows, Linux, and Macs, and doesn't require any identifying info. E2E encrypted as well, along with fingerprint verification.

>>61851138
They are autistic, use something serious like conversations.

https://medium.com/@pepelephew/how-to-intercept-all-wire-voice-and-video-calls-13da1246675c

Signal works without gapps but theres a notification I cant seem to get rid of. It says Background Connection Enabled

can't get rid of it

Why would you use signal, virtually no one uses it except neets

>>61851175
The problem has been addressed.

>>61851210
So?
This doesn't change the fact that they are autistic people who don't know what security means.

>>61851285
Burden of proof is on the claimant

>>61851317
Read the article.

>>61851338
I did. The issues listed have been addressed.

>>61848599
Same here

>>61848396
Well, I've been using signal and its great. I got a couple of friends in the intelligence community and they keep pushing for me to get telegram...

And telegram has been compromised.. Yet THEY CANT install signal.

In any case, if you really want privacy, use a burner phone and PGP encrypt all your text messages lmao. Don't use a smartphone.

>>61852359
>And telegram has been compromised
Huh?

>Install Signal
>Friends wont install it

jk doesn't have friends

>>61852359
>And telegram has been compromised..
since when and by whom ?

>>61852478
>>61852732
https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/6r655i/telegram_isnt_safe/
>inb4 reddit

>>61848396

send me ur xmpp. i need friends.

>>61851385
>having those issues in the first place

>>61848438
This.

I use it daily, my former employer from a pentesting company used it as well. It's nice, for me it just werkz.

Signal is good but if you dont want to connect your number and this nonanon shit just use Wickr.

>>61848644
XMPP it's not secure you moron.

>>61848396
>anons say signal isn't secure
>but it has a good dark theme
What else do I use then? Dark themes are pretty, and pretty good on the eyes.

>>61848396
>Signal
run by a jew whose real name we don't even know what it is.

>>61857904
Silence

It's on f-droid and similar to signal. Has a dark theme