>Year 2017 >still no WM/DE that doesn't crash, doesn't

>>61844260
INSTALL XMONAD

>>61844276
How do you recreate the features of GNOME with xmonad?

File manager with mounting support?
PDF/DJVU/EPUB reader?
Wallpaper?
Keyboard input?
Email client?

use a tiling one

>>61844322
Clearly you don't even know what the fuck a WM is. Perhaps you should learn more before you complain about nonsense.

>>61844325
But how do I do >>61844322 ?

>>61844322
install those separately if you like gnome

>>61844355
I don't want to spend hours configuring my WM, goy.

I want it to be easy and fast. :^)

Windows 10 doesn't have this problem.

>doesn't crash, doesn't use lots of memory, not buggy, doesn't leak memory, isn't bloated
This applies to most choices outside of humongous unmaintainable projects like KDE
>doesn't tear
I gotchu senpai: https://github.com/chjj/compton
This can be used with any X window manager, including ones built into desktop environments. I use it for vsync only with no compositing frills, smooth as silk.

>>61844322
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
Alternatively, just keep GNOME installed, launch your standalone WM and call up whatever GNOME programs you need like Evince or Files.

>>61844423
GNOME, too.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gnome-shell;dist=stable

gnome-shell keeps leaking memory in Debian 9.


I'll try xmonad + comptom. thx senpai.

>>61844260
>he doesn't use XuGnometoo HJT

>>61844260
OSX. Because your time isn't worthless (or is it?)

>>61844322
Thunar
MuPDF
Feh
Mutt or sup

>frogposter
>qualified to breathe the same air we do

KDE

>>61844260
Cinnamon

>>61844260
>>Year 2017
literally no WM/DE I've encountered has these problems.

>>61844260
if you exclude tearing (because as an nvidia user i experience tearing or frameskips on every de, with gnome being the one that frameskips the least) xfce will probably fit all the criteria. I use gnome though because i like it and dont care about bloat as much, and i never had any bugs on both.

>>61844260
LXDE

>>61844260
Cinnamon is the nicest DE I have ever used.

Xfce, install Compton. Done.

>>61844260
You mean budgie? It doesn't do any of those things.

>>61844409
>doesn't use lots of memory
Enterprise ltsb MAYBE

>>61844260
Tearing is the fault of the driver and i3 fills all your requirements you can also use sway (i3 on Wayland) to remove tearing.

>>61844322
You don't need gnome to use the software that comes with gnome.

>>61844260
>come back to Ubuntu after a couple years of wincucking
>decide to go with Gnome
>Crashes when I open the terminal

So this...Is the power...Of Linux.

>>61849291
>Xfce, install Compton

Didn't fix the tearing on my thinkpad.

>>61849591
Werks on my machine ™

>>61849591
It's the drivers fault, it is also an easy fix to remove tearing from everything.

Just Google it.

>>61850224
>Just Google it.

The proper Linux way.

>>61844260
Plasma 5 just wor-
>isn't bloated
Well, it's still pretty good

>>61850230
>>61850224
It's true, there is some configuration you can do on your xorg.conf file that activates some sort of antitearing system on intel graphic chips.

>>61850230
I do the same on Windows if I have a problem there.

So what is your point?

>>61850266

It's true it is the onboard Intel graphics one (some had a nvidea GPU)

I only got it 2 days ago so haven't been arsed to google around yet.

>>61850241
Plasma crashes, freezes, and doesn't work well with graphics. LOL

xfce

>>61844260
fucking (((Unity))) set us back 20 years

>>61844322
>File manager with mounting support?
you install a file manager with mounting support
>PDF/DJVU/EPUB reader?
you install a pdf/dfvu/epub reader
>Wallpaper?
https://beginners-guide-to-xmonad.readthedocs.io/wallpaper.html
>Keyboard input?
what?
>Email client?
you install an email client

>>61851041
>>Keyboard input?
>what?
maybe he's asking about IMEs, like SCIM, for languages like japanese, where the keyboard alone isn't enough

bspwm

>>61850755
this, also gnome3 and kde4/5. However gnome is the only one who got the (((vsync))) right in the end.

>>61851124
You just install and use them. duh
IMEs aren't gnome specific.
wow the idiocy in this thread

>>61851149
considering i gave an example, it should have been obvious i didn't need help on this matter

>>61844260
Use i3wm it just works, easy to set up.
But has tearing... :(

>>61851194
Use sway then.
>>61851170
noticed while typing. Didn't convince me to not write it in an insulting tone

XFCE crashes, Cinnamon crashes, KDE crashes and is WAY too heavy

>>61850510
You are wrong

>>61851124
Switching between Spanish and English.

>>61851221
What are you doing exactly? Not even bleeding edge versions crash for me.

>>61851236
IMEs can do that, though it's overkill
setxkbmap does it for you. Just bind it to a key

>>61851236
right, a layout switching tool
can't make a recommendation, as i only use one layout, but there will be ones out there

>>61851204
sway works only with open source nvidia drivers and open source drivers suck :^(

>>61851255
wrong

>>61851221
>>61851241
>Xfce crashes
Never habbened to me :DDD
u sure u r not doing anythign wrogn :DDDD

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>>61851284
When it doesn't crash, IT TEARS :DDD

WHY would you use a DE that's still using libraries from 2002 and doesn't get updates.

>>61851283
I actually tried sway and with proprietary drivers it's unusable (black screen).
Removed prorpietary, installed open source drivers and colors are all wrong, pixels are with random colors...
GNOME works fine, but sway is shit. Now I'm using compton to avoid tearing in i3wm, looks like it works

>>61844364
>>61844322
I won't go into details, because you should do your research, but here are my recommendations which I use with i3wm:
>File manager with mounting support?
thunar
>PDF/DJVU/EPUB reader?
qpdfviewer
>Wallpaper?
Nitrogen
Keyboard input?
>plug it in, nigger
Email client?
>you are using gmail anyway, but mutt, thunderbird and a million other faggot gui programs can do what you want. Still, you use gmail, so what do you need an email client for?

Fucking normie.

>>61851334
tearign is exbected behabior with nvidia :DDD
vsync is bload anyway :DDD

>>61851365
When? They recently added some way to work with the egl streams.
And you have to add some (nvidia.modesetting=true [or similar) command kernel cmdline.

Also still wrong that it only works with nvidea open source.
The thing you wanted to complain about is, that nvidea still didn't get their proprietary shit up to speed with current technologies (fuck this company)

Budgie.

Niggers.

>>61844260
I installed Debian stable with mate on my mom's PC.
Last I checked her uptime was over 8 months.
It literally just werkz, maybe you're retarded?

>>61851284
>>61851241
After a period of inactivity, it logs me out and then randomly locks up while logging back in.

>>61844260
Yes there is. It’s called Aqua.

>>61851438
Then google "<distro>/<DE> locks up after sleep" or something.

>>61851438
use xscreensaver instead of light locker though.

Plasma without the bloat is very light and responsive, but for some people it still works like a piece of shit, at least with me, it works perfectly. On the other hand, Budgie is pretty much all I need for a DE, it is not that custonizable. but it has all the good features from Gnome and feels snappier. It seems that it is what Gnome should have been. Cinnamon is a good alternative as well, but I prefer Budgie. XFCE is aldo a good option but it feels to old compared to the others, I would use it if I didn't have the resources in my PC.

>>61849591
Then you didn't turn on glx rendering.
Unless you're talking about the UI tearing, in which case that's xfeces being xfeces. Use mate.

>>61851671
tearing is not fixed unless you have literally zero lag or frame drops while moving over or resizing windows while they are over a moving opengl object (like glxgears). So with nvidia drivers literally no DE does this, kde/gnome/cinnamon allow pass the moving part but not resizing. compton drops frames like hell.

>>61851734
There is slight input lag on every system because that's how vsync works. It's just hidden from you on Windows because the mouse pointer is synced with the window you're moving; it still feels snappier without vsync.

I'm not sure what's happening with your machine if you still get tearing though, I use autistic obscure desktops with no OpenGL support and I still get smooth rendering on everything in X.

>>61851796
windows uses hardware cursor, and it doesnt "sync the mouse pointer with the window you're moving" but has an overlay buffer which prints the mouse cursor to the screen without waiting for full screen redraw.
xorg uses this too (option "HWcursor") and its not relevant, the problem is the compositor handling two different buffers (opengl and xrender or two opengl buffers) that are using vsync from opengl and then from the compositor, its also driver dependent because it doesnt appear on my gtx760 with nouveau driver and the intel gpu on my dekstop and happens with the proprietary nvidia drivers. I also seen the problem on other desktop pcs with nvidia gpus.
The slowdown/lag also appears when not using a compositor and with vsync forced off.
Only nvidia gpu computer ive seen not experiencing this is a gt610m laptop that does not use the optimus technology yet, somehow things are butter smooth there.