Why are we trying to keep this piece of shit format alive?
Because it's cool
What's wrong with it?
better than gif
why no mp4 on 4chins?
>>61841328
>4chan doesnt accept VP9 encoded webms
>4chan doesnt accept audio encoded webms
>4chan doesnt accept 2+MB encoded webms
It's not a piece of shit, we're just the only ones that use it.
Use gif if you want to share with your reddit bros xD!
>>61841435
board rules change. porn boards do.
>>61841441
>Thinks Reddit uses gif
They use h.264, like every other modern site.
>>61841435
>4chan doesnt accept 2+MB encoded webms
Yes it does.
Surprised imgur or someone doesn't just auto convert every large gif into a webm to try to force adoption (not their gifv shit) to save bandwidth.
People posting like 60mb gifs online that could be converted into 3mb webms are dumb.
Then again, where do people even post things anymore. 4chan and similar image boards, imgur themselves, and twitter which has mp4.
>>61841435
this
helped get webm more attention but also holds it back like crazy
sorta fucked up
>>61841328
Because google
>>61841341
>>61841360
It's not mkv. In fact, it is a shitty version of mkv.
>>61841483
webm only supports lossy algorithms currently (AV1 will be supported in the future however, and I hear that it has lossless support).
>>61841483
Imgur doesn't care about what gets adopted, they care about what is supported on the most platforms. Normalfaggots use shit like "SmartTVs" and video game consoles to watch videos online. If they can't watch your videos you're just limiting your customer base.
>>61841441
>we're just the only ones that use it.
YouTube uses VP9/Opus by default for Chrome.
>>61841458
oh right, they accept 3MB
all i know is that its 1 full MB less than GIFs
>>61841483
imgur converes to a shitty gifv which is a shitty gif
there are sites that do what you want, like streamable which allows audio and a file of any size
but this stupid site doesnt embed it and the dumb fucking mods will ban you citing the rule about "promoting a stream" and insert the bit about purchasing an ad
because they dont fucking realize its not a fucking twitch stream, its the fucking url name of a fucking video hosting site that doenst require you to fucking sign up to jewgle..the only fucking site that does embed
>>61841435
someone doesn't go to /gif/ or /wsg/
Will 4chan support AV1?
'cuz AV1 (+opus) will be .webm
that's why
vpx will die soon enough
>>61841483
Gfycat converts to .webm, but no one wants to use .webm because Apple doesn't support it.
Apple is going to start using h.265 (HEVC) video and .HEIC images in iOS 11, so expect that to be the next big thing.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/08/ios-11s-new-heifhevc-camera-formats-will-save-you-50-on-storage/
>>61841510
>I hear that it has lossless support
I know VP9 has kinda meh lossless support. I really want something to replace GIF, like, now.
so what format is the future?
>>61845536
.wav
>>61845570
Is heic actually good though?
>>61841491
>that clip
wat
>>61845697
>>61841341
this
>>61841483
>where do people even post things anymore
I'm using webmshare.com, cause it just werks.
The only shitty thing about it is the 10MB upload limitation.
>>61841328
Can't we just upload MP4s or AVIs already? It's 2017 people.
>>61846356
>AVI
>2017
>>61841328
it's pretty comfy desu
>>61845359
Apple is honestly the last innovative company left in the planet.
>>61846411
avi is just a container, stupid summerfag
>>61847959
did i say it wasn't?
>>61845359
>Apple is going to start using h.265 (HEVC) video and .HEIC images in iOS 11, so expect that to be the next big thing.
cool, the firewire of formats
I love webms
Remember when people were spamming webms to kill off bandwidth when gookmoot toke more? Fun day
>>61841328
why 4chan still doesn't support sound in webMs?
>>61845359
they even gave up trying to get people to use mov on windows after like 20 years. Apple hardware is a big thing but software wise they are shit
>>61848296
they do, only on /wsg/ and /gif/ though, and they can have a size limit of 4MB
they used to support sound ones on other boards and had no size limit I think. that's the only logical explanation of why I have a 13.5MB webm i got from /a/.
>>61848388
>they used to support sound ones on other boards and had no size limit I think
They never did.
>>61841510
>It's not mkv. In fact, it is a shitty version of mkv.
It looks good to me. Use mkv if you're not happy with it. Fuck you guys are pathetic. What do you want? One application to rule them all? Fuck off NWO assholes!
>>61841483
Just drop that shit into mixtape
https://track5.mixtape.moe/bzaohy.webm
ffmpeg -i out.webm -vf "scale=iw/8:-1:flags=area" -pix_fmt monob -f rawvideo - | mpv -
>>61841450
>H264
>modern
top kek
>>61841450
go back there and enjoy it then
But webms are the best thing to happen to this site in a long time
Now if they would only allow webp
>>61845697
My thinking is that it's a triple marriage where the black dude has impregnated the woman and he and the other man are lovingly gaying over it.
>>61847894
using a codec from 2013 is so innovative.
but yeah, when that 10% of people support it, the other 90% will care...
>>61841435
Also doesn't accept videos that are over 2 minutes long for no reason.
Yes, even when it's below the file size limit.
>>61845697
My best guess is surrogate mother for two homosexuals.
It's a juice commercial, though.
>>61844361
The reason there are six cracks is the same reason snowflakes are hexagonal.
Neat shit.
>>61841377
>>61841435
Moot use to say it's because it's an image board and people that expect otherwise should leave. Well, moot left and people still expect otherwise. When will Hiro comment on this.
>>61849857
Are videos not just images that move?
Webm doesn't work on mobile browsers so it's doomed.
>>61849910
I am pretty sure it works on Chrome, though. :^)
>>61849910
Works fine on Android's Firefox. Maybe you are using some gimped system.
>>61849961
If you believe metrics from advertising firms, you might get the impression that a lot of people use Chrome.
>>61844433
Voluptuous if Verified
>>61841435
>VP9
Yeah, that's true. I think 4chan only accepts VP8 which means you have to do stupid shit in ffmpeg to get 4chan to accept the format.
>no audio webms on 4chan
Not true. /gif/ accepts them. Probably other boards too.
>2MB limit
I'm pretty sure it's at least 3MB
I do think how 4chan handles webms is stupid though. The fact that I've never seen any other website use this format shows how much this site should ditch webms and go to another format.
>>61841328
b-but i like plebm
>>61849868
technically, videos are just a series of images, which can give the impression of movement, but they don't themselves actually move
Dumbasses talking shit about webm dont understand that it is a CONTAINER, and as such, it is as good as its underlying codecs allow it to be.
Any features webm may or may not have as a CONTAINER, its useless in the context of 4chan.
In here, we could be using fucking .wmv if it supported more up to date encoding.
Webms are pretty good, and are not going anywhere. VP9 and AV1 will ensure so.
>>61851196
webm is just matroska with codec limitations
>>61851196
O life is good.
>>61849586
>It's a juice commercial, though.
First text is in Finnish. The last in Swedish. So basically p0rn.
>>61845791
The version where the quality suddenly increases is funnier. I can't find it.
Why do people use gifs still anyways?
gifs are still prevalent on sites like Reddit and Neogaf. Why use gif if webm exists? There is a lot of users that uses imgur gifv format as well.
Why?
youtoob-dl -F <url>
youtoob-dl -f <vp8 DASH video> <url>
ffmpeg -i in.webm -c:v copy -ss hours:minutes:seconds step2.webm # optional
dd if step2.webm of=step3.webm bs=3M count=1
>4chan won't upload because apparently it's still 48 minutes long.
ffmpeg -i step3.webm -c:v copy done.webm
Sounds complicated but it gets you maximum aloud filesize without fussing over bitrates, -vf scale 2 pass etc. and takes about a minute.
>>61854676
learn to format selection
-f bestvideo[vcodec=vp8]
besides that, does youtube even serve separate vp8 streams anymore? I just checked a few videos and the available video streams were all avc1 or vp9.
>>61854882
Dunno if they're phasing out vp8 but.
Last time I was actually using this I would sometimes find vp8 dash in 2 or 3 sizes.
>>61841458
awesome webm anon.... haha
>>61844361
indeed some good shit right there...
>>61844361
how does the fuse does not distinguish in the ice water... makes no sense.
>>61845791
haha... so creative! keep it up... as the other anon says... if you can upload the higher quality one would be grrrreat.
>>61848037
what is being censored?
>>61855070
Looks like there's a bit of an airpocket there.
You could try wax or some type of sealant, if the fuse has enough oxygen inside. The propellant apparently does.
>>61855165
Meant for
>>61855124
>>61841328
>iFool detected
>>61848130
Who could blame chairsniffer though?
>small size
>Easy to make
>Easy to control
I'm not seeing any downside outside of embedding support
>>61855211
what am I suppose to laugh at here
>>61844361
Fake.
>>61855458
You're not supposed to laugh.
It's just the same girl as the one from the chairsniffer webum.
>>61849910
Works on my browsers and clover.
Are you an Applefag by chance?
>>61855747
thats too rare
>>61855747
Is this the same guy as the one with the raw chicken?
>>61855513
>chairsniffer webm
pls post
>>61841450
>>Thinks Reddit uses gif
>They use h.264, like every other modern site.
Neither of those are webm though
>>61841483
>Surprised imgur or someone doesn't just auto convert every large gif into a webm to try to force adoption (not their gifv shit) to save bandwidth.
gifv is just mp4, and imgur cares more about making their site usable on every platform (i.e. iOS) than pushing adoption of a format they don't really care about.
From a user perspective, mp4 and webm are basically the same. They both play through the in-browser html5 video player, so they have the exact same look and feel if you don't really care about what's happening under the hood.
Imagine being so cucked that your phone in 2017 can't play webm and your phone and 2020 can't play av1.
>>61849857
what moot really meant was
>"fuck these weaboos, they're not paying for bandwidth. These faggots want it all, and they want it for free."
>>61841435
so?
you can fit 50 times more data into it than a fucking gif
>>61841483
they do.. that's literally what gifv is, a fucking webm and mp4 for fallback
>>61841556
dumbass
>>61841510
>It's not mkv. In fact, it is a shitty version of mkv.
mkv is just a container, it doesn't specify any standard video or audio format. It's a nice container for desktop playback in media players, but there's no point in using it for the web where every browser needs to support the formats you throw at it (and thus usually a limited set of formats). It's better to not confuse normies by releasing mkv files in a way that only some of them will play in their browser.
At least that's how it would be in theory. In reality, MKV files are usually just h.264 or hevc video, with mp3, AAC, or flac audio. Lossless videos (bluray rips) also get released in MKV but are a bit more rare afaik.
>>61856535
fucking this
There's a reason for container formats that specify a standard or preferred codec; so users have some idea of what they're getting and can make somewhat educated decisions on compatibility.
>>61845697
Something about Sweden, I assume.
>>61848425
>It looks good to me. Use mkv if you're not happy with it.
But I am.
>>61841328
>moot has singlehandedly kept this format alive
Is this why Google hired him?
>>61856535
>it doesn't specify any standard video or audio format
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
With mkv you can easily use vp8 with flac, can you say the same for webm?
>there's no point in using it for the web where every browser needs to support the formats you throw at it
Just support mkv then and support only the codecs that the user has installed.
Right now webm is a inferior version of mkv that developers need to start supporting just because it's popular.
>>61856661
>There's a reason for container formats that specify a standard or preferred codec
Because retards made these.
>>61850289
>The fact that I've never seen any other website use this format shows how much this site should ditch webms and go to another format.
The only other good video container format for web is mp4. The _only_ advantage it has over webm is that its support natively by iOS. Imgur has "gifv" which is just a container of mp4/webm/gif (a container of containers).
>>61855188
Yup, OP is butthurt the data nazis he backed don't support it.
>>61850289
Youtube regularly uses vp9 webm, but I mean it's google so lol
>>61849857
Some imageboards let you embed external videos into your messages, like from Youtube and the like. What are the pros and cons of this
>>61857453
imgur and gifv is absolutely fucking retarded
imgur does not allow webms, yet they convert uploaded gifs to webm
there was some dev at imgur posting some really retarded shit on reddit or something about this process improving image quality
>>61841435
>WebM
>VP9
Developed by Google
H.264 is fine guys