ITT: Reasons we haven't moved to Linux

>>61834930

so pic unrelated?

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>>61834930

>>61834938
Pic very much related my dude.

Very little of that software works on linux, even via a VM.

>>61834989
>my dude
Literally everything except Office and Adobe runs native on Linux, even your 3D meme fad printing software.

Otherwise, your setup looks like shit and I can't imagine getting work done on that.

>>61834930
Because Adobe is a thing that I use.

>>61834945
>using shit that's only secure because it's unusable

lel @github desktop

>>61835091
>because adobe is a mistake that i've made

>>61834930
Why do you need four clouddrives?

I have a job

Because I'm in my late 20s and still play games.

everything is a hassle on linux if it doesn't work at first. and don't say I'm a noob I can compile from source

>>61834989
>even via a VM
so, you're retarded

>>61834930
because I'm a dumb normalfag and I cant be fucked to learn how to use loonix

>>61835061
>Literally everything except Office and Adobe runs native on Linux, even your 3D meme fad printing software.

Right, so,
ETABS?
Inventor?
SAP2000?
Rhino?
Grasshopper?
Autocad?
Robot?
Solidworks?


these all work on linux do they?

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>>61835137
>some software doesn't perform well in a VM
>therefore the user is retarded

the absolute STATE of freetard logic.

>>61834930
The only reason is that it is lacking in software and that it needs constant maintenance in order to set it up like you want it.

MacOS is only ok for browsing the internet

Windows is just comfy

Linux is so shitty that I moved to a phone running Android than full pc + screen running Linux.

>>61835061
>>61835061
>Literally everything except Office and Adobe runs native on Linux

This is wrong you retard.

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>>61835171
>Android
>not linux

>>61835164
>too stupid to properly configure a working vm
what are the suposed limitations of this "some software" to not perform as it's suposed to?assuming you don't have shit hardware

>>61835197
>having to work around every single thing

The state of the Linux desktop since forever

>>61835197
Running finite element analysis software in a VM takes a fucking age.

Doing graphics work is laggy as fuck.

>>61835211
>doesn't want to know how his computer works
The state of the winbabies since forever

>>61835164
You're retarded. A KVM will perform just as well as native windows, with only up to 10% performance reduction. If virtualization was shit it wouldn't be used in professional environments.

>>61835235
>doesn't want to have to tune his engine every time he needs to pop out on an errand which is in a slight different direction to the last errand.

>>61835222
KVM/QEMU + GPU passthrough

1. Games
2. Photoshop
3. Microsoft office

If those three things ever start to work on gnu/Linux, I will switch on all my computers.

>>61835239
Ok, I'm interested.

Any useful guides?

Last time I tried, the software was laggy, and the VM would blackscreen anything that had to work on stuff in 3d in real time.

>>61835235
Stop passing the blame to the end user, if people want to learn OS architecture they can do just that.

Me having to write scripts or setup window managers via text files so that they play nice with my second display every fucking update is not what I want from an operating system.

Even hackintosh is more trouble free than linux if you get it running

>>61835282
Are you running both systems on a single HDD? Did you pass the GPU to the VM? A simple google search will lead you to proper pci passthrough.

>>61835263
>wine
>krita and gimp
>libre office
well, I guess you can switch to GNU/Linux today

>>61834989
nice vague statement, classic -100/10 post

go end your life as you would never amount to anything but being a subhuman neet shitposting nigger faggot

>>61835311
Hahahaha, no

>>61835330
hahahaha, yes

>>61835316
Only thing that's good on your list is Krita

>>61835263
1.
Steam
GOG
HumbleBundle
Browser games
Emulators
WINE

2.
GIMP
Krita

3.
WPS
LibreOffice

Copying all my files over to an external drive is a hassle.

>>61835418
It's simple shit like that, they shouldn't be a hassle.

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Only reason I haven't moved to Linux on my desktop is because I use it to play vidya and in too lazy to set up qemu/kvm to run windows.
I do use use Linux of my chinkpad

low to mid tier rigs for gaming don't run games well enough with wine

>>61834930
No games
No drivers

My die cutter doesn't have a Linux software alternative. I also play some games but I could drop those if it meant escaping windows.

>>61835418
How is it a hassle?
>copy
>paste
Wut? Do other operating systems magically copy them without your intervention?

>>61835431
t. never used it and doesn't know what he's talking about

>>61835452
>no drivers
We aren't talking about OS X. Linux actually includes GPU and networking drivers. Your meme is outdated and now applies to windows instead.

>>61835316
>>61835371
Wine doesn't work on everything, and most games still aren't ported to run on Linux.
GIMP is trash, and while I've heard krita is really good I haven't had the time recently to learn it.
Both WPS and libreoffice are fine, but there are some compatibility issues when converting to an office doc for assignment submission.

>>61834930
Why don't you get a job so you don't need to illegally download and run all those CAD software on your home PC? Also lmao @ramlet.

I play a lot of vidya

>>61835452
Linux supports more kinds of hardware than Windows by far.

>>61835485
Well Linux does have drivers. But there are no drivers for my capture card I have on Linux so that's a no go for me.

>>61835485
>never used it

Yeah, sure

Having to type commands in terminal to mount the external hard drive as well as eject it when it just won't plug&play is totally not a thing

Or locking the whole disk up because of a shitty unmount

never happens

>>61834930
I really like photoshop and I really hate wine

>>61835534
that gets done automatically on distros that come with a desktop environment and file manager

>>61834930
The Linux community sucks fucking dick, t b h.

>>61835597
Except when it doesn't.

Also don't get me started on USB3 drivers

>>61835606
t. pajeet

>>61835282
You have to use pci pass through, which afaik Intel disables on the unlocked processors for no fucking reason at all

>>61835108
>Not having a desktop for games and 5 thinkpads for shit posting

>>61835096
>GIMP is a PS alternative, honest!

>>61835647
>b-but muh pepper

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>>61834930

>>61834930
Foobar2000

>>61835534
>>61835619
It literally isn't an issue on standard desktop distributions like Ubuntu. And the only OS that ever locked me out of unmounting external drives is Windows. Which is another reason I don't use it.
The OS is literally as usable as Windows or OSX.

I'm not a retard.

>>61835739
I wouldn't even use it on windows since it's a botnet and Clementine is better anyways.

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>>61834930
>full sized icons

>>61835621
Nah son, I'm just being real. The smugness for no reason is annoying, it's always been that way. I like Stallman, but the Linus crowd are a bunch of douche bags.

Also, M$ kerberos is still superior. Suck it.

>>61835863
>autism

>>61835635
>tfw no integrated GPU
shit

>>61835263
>Gaymes
Yeah ok
>Photoshop
it works perfectly with wine
>Office
WPS or Libreoffice will definitly provide you with everything you need

>>61835635
Intel stopped disabling it with Devil's Canyon (4690k/4790k)

>>61835092
>using it because it's the simplest os
>security is a bonus

>>61834930
A fisher price UI and conky?

>>61835486
>Assignment must be submitted in docx
shit tier school

>>61836499
The assignment doesn't have to be submitted in docx, but the graders will open the document in word and any the formatting will still break a bit.

>>61836523
just send a pdf then

>>61836527
This. It's literally unfuckable.

>>61834930
it' s rare that i see something this ugly

>>61836544
You should use the mirror more often.

>>61836660
Kekt n rekt

i use photoshop once a month for something basic and am too lazy to learn how to do that in gimp

>>61836750
because gimp is made by wizards and autists that don't know how to make a usable UI, and don't know anything about workflow

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>>61834930
>77 replies and 7 images omitted. Click here to view.
Neat

>>61836772
It's UI is much better than Photoshop's though. The shitty UI was the reason I stopped using Photoshop.

>>61834930
I've used Windows since 1998 and I don't know anything else

>>61834930
Lack of any proper audio or video editing software.

>>61837301
Linux has zero latency kernels that audio creators enjoy using. I don't think you are privy to industry workings and only have the paltry offerings stupid amateurs freely share to go on.

IDA Pro

>>61834930
Can I have that Wallpaper?

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>>61834989
>Even via VM

>>61834930
>le fullscreen start menu
That was actually one of my reasons for upgrading to Linux.

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>>61837571
I bet if you use the 4chan tool for searching for the image, you will find it.

EDIT: I was right, so here you go.

>install wine with the gallium nine patches
>games run almost the same or sometimes even better than windows
>"native" linux port of the same game runs like shit in comparison
kek

>>61835151
yes

>>61837648
examples?

>>61837637
Me-ow

>>61837660
Wrong. Faggot.

>>61837664
CS:GO. The linux version runs like shit even with the lowest graphic settings and takes AGES to load a map. Meanwhile, under Wine I can run it with high settings, no stuttering and fast load times.

>>61837664
Killing Floor

>>61837730
Never tried running any Source games through WINE since they already have linux ports;
I can definitely confirm that they're rather sluggish though.

>driver issues
>software issues
>emulation/vm doesn't cut it for gaymes
>it's gay
Install Win 10

>>61835911
>Also, M$ kerberos is still superior. Suck it.
What? You don't need to interact with humans to fix Linux issues. Most distros have official documentation that cover most issues. Windows just has a million forum threads with "I just reinstalled my GPU driver and it works now xdxdxd"

>>61837301
what about kdenlive?

>>61837913
>>driver issues
show me~ never had an issue, just need non-free repos
>software issues
such as?
>emulation/vm doesn't cut it for games
Agreed, dualboot?
>it's gay
nothing wrong with that.

>>61834930
>Pretending to use all that shit to hide the fact that you're just stuck on windows because /v/
Sad

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>tfw JetBrain's Rider had been released and works amazingly well
RIP Windows

>>61837980
>Drivers
WLAN for one, lately i've been blessed with a KillerNIC card. Then there is the issue of peripherals, specifically mouse drivers, or soundcard drivers(yes people still use those, moar holes).
Then there is the issue of driver suites, which would be first software problem, the next would be unstable shitty software for handling certain hardware that doesn't work or require the study of archaic resources and luck to avoid instability.
I have often experienced problems with power use on laptops, lunix sometimes eats battery and other times just forgets to enable power saving shit.
Dualbooting is for faggots, i don't want to close down everything just to play a game for 45 minutes.
You're a faggot, go rice your desktop some more.

>>61835092
Ironic.

>>61838118
You have an option of running windows networking drivers. You can do this out of the box on ZorinOS.

>>61838007
>JewBrains
no thanks

>>61838279
>gtg, I have an emacs installation to tinker with

>>61838279
what do you have against the best IDE company, that fixed Java

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>>61835829
>foobar
>botnet
explain please

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OP your W10 conig is garbage

>>61836499
>>61836523
>>61836527
This is dumb because you can just format and convert a document on Google Docs anyway.

>>61838319
>>61838335
Needing a massive IDE to be productive is indicative of the following, in any combination:
- Shitty language
- Shitty developer
- Shitty project
Please stop contributing to the cancerous arms race that has infected the entire software ecosystem, as well as the internet at large.
Thanks.

>>61836310
MacOSX is more secure under default settings than W10 or stable versions of common linux distros

>>61835442
Also DX9 doesnt even work with Wine

>>61838335
>>61838319
IDEs are a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist to begin with. Even .NET is fairly doable without one, unlike Oracle's abomination.

>laptop
Because I use the Adobe Suite daily in a professional environment where everyone else uses Mac OS products.

>desktop
Muh games.

>>61838677
>>61838690
>t.doesn't actually do paid work
Life is shitty, underage. Get over it.

>>61838754
>t. pajeet
Ride the gravy train while it lasts, amirite?
If only animals could be made to feel shame.

>>61838690
>>61838677
L337 haX0r2 d373C73d

Lots of butthurt code monkeys itt. Feels good.

>>61835165
Hahaha asio is garbage. Nobody does audio on windows unless you're afruity fruit looper. Also Maya was developed to run as well as Adobe since Microsoft was late to the game with dx. All of these were developed for open gl except Lightwave

>>61835263
All work in VM. Including muh games.

>>61838807
Nigger, the entire fucking practice of software development is the practice of managing complexity. I've been programming for longer than your neet ass has been sucking air. Real programs are complex. Get a fucking job.

>>61838886
💩 here's your (You)

>>61835165
> this faggot has no ecc ram or error checking xenons

How do people get any work done on the garbage that is windows? Even Pixar uses osx and Linux because Unix and server farms

>>61838946
>software development is the practice of creating complexity
Fixed. You're no better than a banker shuffling money around for profit, no value added. But if you find satisfaction in the exercise, I guess that's good for you.
I'd advise that you get a job you can actually be proud of, though.

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>>61838922
>he runs an OS within an OS to make up for the incompetncey of his OS

>>61838824
3B1c M-/ DUD3

>>61838548
>freeware, but not open source
Suspicious

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>>61839028

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>>61837942
You don't make any sense.
>Linux users don't need to ask for help
>>>/fglt/ or the girthy askununtu.com

And honestly, MS proprietary networks and Cisco stacks are how most people sleep at night. And why most Russians stay up at night.

You must be a hobbyist or student if you blindly hate Microsoft. Period.

Personally I compute with every OS to some degree, but had to master awk/sed/grep to be effective in Linux as a user. My server core systems are extremely reliable. I use it at work but prefer windows at home. Plus, Bill Gates was based when he ran Microsoft in its glory days.

>>61839070
>trying to defend the validity of your occupation on a Hyborian snake-cult forum
amazing

>>61839029
>IP laws exist and that's linux's fault
wew laddy

V I D E O G A M E S

>"stop playing videogames" is not an argument that will convince anyone

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>>61839099
>You must be a hobbyist or student if you blindly hate Microsoft. Period.
It's not blind hate, Windows is as scummy as ever and guess who programmed it. Microsoft has only gotten shittier and shittier, try playing Forza Horizon 3 without getting fucked over by M$
>Linux users don't need to ask for help
this never came out of my mouth you filthy nigger.

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>>61838733
Ubderrated af.

>>61838607
>1366 x 768
>calling others garbage
wew

>>61839312
You know what, I like you for some reason now anon. Maybe it was that pic, maybe it was the word nigger, I can't decide which.

I might be an oldfag, but when I was a kid the Windows 95 "if you start me up" campaign worked when I was a kid. Their old commercials were cool, like the MSN messenger commercial with the Pattsy Cline song. They gayed up with the tablet race marketing-wise but the whole industry did. Bill Gates explaining the sometimes-frustrating 256 character limit in DOS video is cool. Balmer pumps me up still. If you ever work with good Windows people its a nice experience.

I hope we can still be friends once camp ends, anon.

>>61838607
Are you blind?

>>61834930
I'm not a commie.

>>61839740
I miss the old, comfy windows but lately it has lost its edge. It holds nothing over other OS' so they constantly have to lock down and pay companies to stay on their platform. I miss the old Microsoft, but they've gone senile and run themselves straight into the ground.

>>61839842
>I miss the old, comfy windows
There was absolutely nothing "comfy" about "old Windows". You used it because you had to, not because you wanted to.

>>61840107
I personally preferred Norton Commander to Windows, as far as DOS frontends went

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>>61834930
>wincucks unironically proud of their forced tablet interface

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>>61834930
But I did Anon

Because of various little things that always irked me and when googling or asking forums how to fix my issue, it was always some convoluted process that still at best, only did half of what I wanted.

>file transfer speed was always half, if not less! Than windows whether it be USB devices, or HDD to HDD over the network
>file transfer would always freeze and unfreeze
>no file preview when selecting an image for upload
>drivers being sub-par at best

ChromeOS is Linux done right. I still have an Ubuntu boot stick for troubleshooting, but nothing more. After years of Ubuntu, I went back to windows.

Should I try Fedora? So far I've been using Arch and Ubuntu. Is it better than those two?

>>61840274
no, not really.

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Because it's easier to use.

I only use Linux on Virtual machine with Ubuntu in order to crack the wifi of the neighbor..

>>61840316
>Because it's easier to use.
The only legimate answer in this thread.

>>61835239
I see no reason to use KVM unless you frequently need to switch back and forth between systems. You have to resign your GPU to windows and also pass devices to the Vm in one point only to have a slight performance drop. Why? Why not just dual boot? Unless you have no SSD it's the best option, especially in a dual monitor setup

>>61838607
Wow, now that is complete garbage.

>>61834945
This

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>>61834930
here's the one and only reason for me.

>KVM/QEMU + GPU passthrough
Seen people talk about this
Does anyone run Linux and then use that for Mac OS? How is it?

>>61834930
>Autocad and Rhinoceros
Do you get all your cad licenses from Cracker Jack boxes or something?

>2017
>that image is still getting replies
amazing
truly amazing

>>61835282
>Any useful guides?
No, fuck off. You've already proven yourself to be unlikable. Try again in another thread, and next time try being less of an asshole.

>>61838754
>Life is shitty, underage. Get over it.
Your job sucks because you suck. Don't project it onto others.
Java was literally designed to be used by morons.

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>>61840184

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>>61840107
IDK man, alternatives have pretty much always been there.

Plus, Windows is actually still pretty good for kids. Someday my future son will see his first set of tiddies through proprietary software. He'll even be able to rice with at least Cygwin or the semi-native bash client and get introduced to *NIX if he so chooses as well. He probably will, and life will go on. Such will be life.

>>61840662
To be fair, all innovations are "lets make this easier".

>>61840630
No these are legitimate licenses.

My firm paid for them all.

>>61840661
Wew lad, someone sounds angry, I wasn't even the guy you replied to previously.

Chill out, this is a thread about operating systems, not something important.

wireless card isnt supported

This: >>61841565

>>61840662
you realize this all started because of Rider, a C# IDE, you fucking idiot

Vidya. That's it. I just keep win 7 installed on a separate drive for vidya. Use Linux for everything else at this point. When 7 is done, maybe I'll move to 8 or 10 for vidya.

>>61834989
>git
>krita
>powershell (AND BASH)
>np++
>blender
>7z
>discord
Half that list is shit that has native Linux builds, the other half is Memecrosoft Office (which is not only easily replaced by LibreOffice, but also a buggy security nightmare), and Skype (which has gotten progressively shittier since Microsoft bought it).

>>61835151
>Inventor?
>using inventor
>2012

>>61841687
>conveniently miss out literally half the software shown incl. analysis and modelling software


gg

>>61841703
it's 2017 dingdong

>>61841609
This
No good printer drivers, useless printing software

My PC died a while back, so I did a fresh install with Ubuntu because it was the only CD I had handy. About 2 weeks later, when trying to drag a file from my phone to my desktop, my PC froze and wouldn't boot back into linux.
Did another fresh install with Windows because that's a fucking stupid way for a pc to crash and not be able to recover from.

>>61841629
>C#
So Java then.

>>61834945
I like FreeBSD better

There are alternatives for mainstream software on Linux, some of them more capable than Windows counterparts, some lacking.

Office -> WPS Office if you need compatibility. Linux version is open source, although it's not under free license, last time I checked. Then, there is LibreOffice.
Adobe -> Krita would be the closest PS alternative, Inkscape/LO Draw for Illustrator, Scribus for InDesign, DarkTable for LightRoom.
For video editing, there are many open source editors, such as Kdenlive, as well as commercial software, such as DaVinci Resolve.
3D -> Maya runs on CentOS, but can be made to run on Debian-based distros. There is Blender. Also, there might be other commercial software that supports Linux.
Programming -> Most IDEs work on Linux, except Visual Studio.
Gamedev -> Unity has a Linux editor in beta, Unreal can be compiled for Linux.
Skype, misc messengers - many have a Linux implementations.

The real problem with Linux, though, is fragmentation and lack of user-friendliness, which scares off the normies. OMG Ubuntu mentions Linux software, but they also tell you you have to add a ppa and install software from a terminal, which many people would find "scary". OpenSUSE has one-click-install links in their repos, so there are steps in the right direction. Plus, there are snaps, flatpaks, appimages - but every format has its own flaws. Plus GTK/Qt inconsistencies, hardware problems, random packages breaking from upgrades, every DE behaving in its own way, plugins that stop working because of a new GTK version - all of this will drive away an average Joe.

>>61841855
Java done right

>>61841948
The only thing visual studio has going for it right n ow is Xamarin development and Windows Forms(lol), pretty much everything can be done with either Rider or Monodevelop

I need another hard drive to comfortably switch over from a Windows setup on ssd to Linux on ssd + Windows dual boot on hard disk.
That's really the only thing stopping me, I don't do much """gaming""" and don't even have Office installed.

>>61842408
True, but unfortunately still "proprietary". Open that puppy up and I'd hop the fuck on board.

>>61841948
Look man the fact that I can manipular folders trough an interface, move quickly trough my files, troubleshot problems by using intuition and logic trough menus / options, see all sorts of useful information in a clean way is a big for me on windows.

On linux I would have to tinker for days and in the end I might just not be satisfied with the overall package... I've actually done it in the past.

The experience is smoother on windows that's all and as human I like comfort and the easy / cheating route - I would pretty much always take it.

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Diskless server with realtime client update.
Nice cafebilling system with online access.
Non-shit OS that compatible with all steam games and MMORPG without exception.

Been waiting them for 16 years now and none of them exist in Linux.

>>61837301
>audio
There's even a wiki page for it FFS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_audio_software

Ardour is pretty good from what i've heard.

> video editing software

Blender, kdenlive, etc. There's definitely tools out there.

>>61837730
Sounds like Valve doesn't know how to port software. I'm sure that comes as a shock to everyone in this thread.

Because Yukkuri Diary don't work well on linux.

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Fucking based multitasking when I was at uni

>>61843290
memewave/10

>>61835061
If office ran on Linux it would be game over for Windows.

>>61843484
Accurate.

Inb4 butthurt freetards convince themselves that they have never done this to fix something.

>>61834930

I'm employed and the company doesn't use Fisher-Price tier Loonix knockoffs of industry standard software.

>The solution to every Linux problem comes down to using Windows in VM

Or just use Windows.

>>61835087
Vive has had support for months now. You could've just said games overall then.

>>61841948
>Adobe -> Krita

Hello Youtube channel owner, get a grip on what a real job entails before you think Krita is even remotely close to a viable alternative. GIMP is even worse.

>>61842597
https://github.com/dotnet ?

>>61841948

>Krita
>Kdenlive
>FUCKING BLENDER

Jesus Christ this is the most cringe worthy post in this thread.

You're confusing "I am a bottom barrel hobbyist with a Patreon and an Artstation account" with "I am employed at a company with standards". These 2 do not have any overlap.

>Here sir, hand in this architectural render to a billion dollar firm rendered in fucking Cycles

Don't make me laugh.

its basically only games at this point really and that is becoming an increasingly flimsy reasoning for it

>>61843593
but i sell mesh clothing secondlife maitreya only cause its the best mesh body and that is literally all done in blender

>>61843590
It's getting there. Core is much more stable than people give it credit for quite frankly.

>>61841948
>The real problem with Linux [...] lack of user-friendliness
Linux is extremely user-friendly. It's just highly selective in who it befriends.

>>61834930
macOS is too comfy

My laptop has too much shit I need. When I get a second laptop I'd like to install linux. Fucking hate win 10

>>61843764
>hw cant throw things onto an external drive

>>61843677
I really love C# but core is not there yet
>download latest version
>throws some generic error on setup
>google it
>one year old open github issue with over 200 comments
>apparently I'm missing some libs dotnet did not want to install
>download all those libs manually
>segfaults on run
>google some more and find another open github issue with 200 comments
>solution is buried half way
>have to downgrade some package
>this issue has been open since june 2016

>>61834989
>even via a VM
Way to kill your own argument so fast.

>>61834930
I'm literally retarded and any linx distro I've tried doesn't install correctly the first time on my machine and I can't troubleshoot if my life was on the line.

>>61843518
Honestly i've had more problems on windows than linux. Not saying linux is problem free but if i put both on a balance the linux based OS i'm using now wins by a large margin. Not needing to cope with MS's bullshit is just a plus, now i only use windows for a few programs where i don't have any other option but if i find a viable replacement i'll take it immediately.

>>61843807
So more like Java done wrong?
Java is basically
$apt install openjdk-8-jdk
works
or, if you really need the oracle one for some reason
download, unpack to /opt/
$update-java-alternatives
works

>>61844002
>runtime = language
go to sleep Rajmesh

>>61838922
My understanding was that anything graphically intensive won't be able to run at an acceptable framerate in a regular (non gpu passthrough) VM.
Is that not the case?

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>>61834930
Hi, is this the designated shilling thread?

Because FreeBSD emulates Linux programs if I need them.

>>61839029
>Developers not making a piece of software available for a certain OS is fault of that OS.
Damn dude, by that logic just by existing windows phone you just killed microsoft, the fact no one made software available for it demonstrates the incompetence of microsoft. Only if we follow your retarded logic of course.

>>61844034
>anything graphically intensive won't be able to run at an acceptable framerate in a regular (non gpu passthrough) VM
virgl is not bad for Linux on Linux VMs

>>61844020
what good is a good language if the only available runtime doesn't work?

>>61843799
I'm broke as fuck atm

>>61844192
>broke as fuck
>instead if buying an external hard drive going to buy a new laptop just to install linux on it

>>61840211
the fuck are you eating?

>>61845597
Looks like sliced bell peppers

>Linux is terrible if you have a job other than maintaining servers and actually need software products to get shit done
>Linux is terrible if you want leisure activities such as videogames
>But is great for ricing my desktop and post screenshots pretending i'm le epin hacker

>>61840274
Better hardware support than Ubuntu because of updated kernel and Wayland is actually fine.