/ntr/ - Netrunner official /g/ browser

>>61834915
>>61832824
AMD IS OVER AND FINISHED

Where is the logo?

I'll make one.

Does netrunner display links correctly?
I mean, is this thing able to display

<a href="#">This</a> and <a class="test" href="#">that</a>

Regexp would be a good idea here I guess.

>>61835215
dont use regex to parse HTML

>>61835246
Why not? Nearly all BBCode-parser work that way too.

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"The idea is not to reinvent the wheel each time you depend on some new thing on the web but to reuse applications already in your computer.
Like for example they take from the unix philosophy to send media like videos to a video player you already have installed.
I particularly like this idea."

I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>61835323
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454

>>61835355
That's exaggerated imho. But using another parser is not a bad idea, suggestion https://github.com/lexborisov/myhtml

>>61835355
I think I get it now.

>>61835323
They aren't using regex for parsing or lexing, only for tokenization. Regular expressions can only be used to describe regular language. HTML and BBcode are not regular. Infact any language that similar to a langague where there are n opening brackets followed by n closing brackets isn't regular.

Plus even though modern regex with backtracking kinda gets around the fact that regex can't describe recursion, it isn't robust, very resource intensive and completely unnecessary. Regex should only be used for pattern matching EVER, no exceptions. Tokenize with regex, parse with a proper parser

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>>61834915
>cient
holy shit

Hey guys, look at "surf", the suckless web browser. Is very lightweight and minimal. They have great ideas like using scripts to include stuff like bookmarks and autologin http://surf.suckless.org/files/

I am probably using this as a secondary browser but I think NetRunner can take a couple things from it. Is very similar to our goals.

>>61835803
Look at what you can do with Uzbl https://www.uzbl.org/wiki/scripts

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im getting this error on macos sierra

>>61836109
>Library not loaded: LibGLEW
You sure have it installed?

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POO

So what can this do so far? Can I browse 4chan? Is there an appchanx-like extension to make the interface not terrible? Do you have an open-source search engine?

>>61836249
Why do you want a search engine when you have surfraw?

>>61836260
I did not know about this, thanks for telling me.

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u r saying wat u son of basterd bich

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sir do the needful and install netrunner thank you

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chrome shill is back

What's the best browser? Palemoon or Netrunner?

>>61836311
Right now? IceCat.

>>61835215
I don't think this is a good idea, something like lex + yacc would be better.

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>>61836198
its in the folder and i've installed it with homebrew

>>61836109
You have to execute it from the directory that it's in and you have to pass a URL

>>61836198
Doesn't need to, it's included.

Is it compatible with Windows 10(tm)

>>61836702
>you have to pass a URL from command line

LMAO

>>61836249
It can browse 4chan without images. It can't make posts yet.

>>61836332
>tfw icecat mobile crashes

>>61836868
First time I hear it happens, I got it on my Nexus and works flawlessly.

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Take this

-/gd/

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>>61836747
it works on Windows 7 with the VC2017 runtime. Though I've heard people have problems finding the DLLs for Windows 10

>>61837399
Nice

>>61836747
It should work. Grab prerequisites from netrunner.cc

>>61837399
>raysis logo

Good luck trying to find anyone to contribute.

>>61834915
> ntr
> /g/ browser
It's like "/fag/ - friendly Apple general".

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8/6-10 Progress report

If you haven't been following along on our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCes2uiC-4xSBwqnldCFbh4Q or Twitter @Team_NetRunner here's the latest:

- Input box can take input when selected
- Input box scrolls text when it hits width
- Iframe document widget created and logic for page scrolling is moved inside (tabbed browser is likely by the end of the month)
- moved anime girl from source to external file (pnm unsupported P8 RGBA)
- refactoring opengl bits out of the components, so we can work towards a framebuffer solution
- We now have a working address bar (forward/back buttons likely next week)

The iframe refactor has broken resizing and made the scroll choppy, so I'm not releasing any new binaries until we're back on par with the existing releases. You're always welcome to compile your own.

>>61837399
I love it, sunglasses are so cool.

>>61837498
Holy shit, is this a dream?

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>>61837498

>>61837498
What language is netrunner using?

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>>61837828
C++

>>61837498
Ebin

I'm legit waiting on this to become a usable browser. How long do you think that will take? Can you do it within like a year or two do you think?

>>61837103
It keeps closing all my tabs.

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>>61837498
This pleases me.
Good work, keep it up~

>>61834915
Least toxic OP comment on /g/ (probability 4.0847793%) according to Google's Perspective API

>>61838103
You'll probably be able to view very simple webpages, but I doubt it will ever support standards to the extent of existing modern browsers.

>>61840071
If I can browse 4chan and stackoverflow I don't care about (((modern web)))

>>61837498
Can you stretch it from side to side and invert colors or maybe green on black background? Like the command line look in dwb, is less visual bloat.

>>61835355
>HTML and regex go together like love, marriage, and ritual infanticide.
So it's used on Hillary's campaign website?

>>61835961
Uzbl is super double ultra deprecated.
>Gtk2
>Webkit1.x
Use Qutebrowser instead.

>>61841249
elaborate my friend

>>61841278
Ultra kek

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>>61841344
Follow the arrows.

>>61834915
Trying to run on Arch, the linux binary from https://netrunner.cc/ and I get this

 ./netrunner: error while loading shared libraries: libGLEW.so.2.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 

libglew 2.1-0-1 is installed

>>61837498
Neat

>>61841249
It'll be theme/skinnable. It's going to look like mosaic until someone builds a config parser.

>>61841755
install 2.0 or recompile for 2.1

>>61841344
Is the url bar, can you make it configurable like dmenu where you can change colors and stuff? So everyone is happy with they preference.

>>61841791
Until we have a theme engine and config parser the application can't be skinned
>>61841786

>>61841833
Ok, looking forward to it.

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not working for windows 10

>>61842528
did you install https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=746571

Cool browser.
Can I remove the anime girl?

>>61841755
>libGLEW.so.2.0: cannot open shared object file
>libglew 2.1-0-1 is installed
gee I wonder what the problem is

>>61842528
now it cant find vcruntime something or other

>>61842584
No

>>61842683
Right you have the 32 bit 2017 redistributable installed. If that didnt fix it. Try 2013.

I'll update the site as soon as I find out what's required to get it running on a clean install of windows 10.

>downloading a browser that some /g/oober probably designed to steal personal information

ntr looks like it just came out of the fucking 90s on dialup

>>61843270
O P E N S O U R C E
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>./netrunner: error while loading shared libraries: libGLEW.so.2.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Are you telling me that I have to downgrade to run this thing?

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You made a web browser? How impressive....

>>61844784
This is a from scratch rendering engine.

>>61842584
Next version

>>61844686
>>61841786
Yes if you want to use the premade binary package, 2.1 came out like 10 days ago. Or you can recompile.

Where's the solus version bruhs

>>61841284
The 'next' branch of uzbl uses GTK3/WebKit2.

>>61844803
no it's not, it's a pajeetware pile of crap that uses spaghetti code like this:
>>61836240
to parse html

please stop embarrassing yourself

Cool

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>>61834915
Don't work on my windows partition, will try on linux latter.

>>61847364
I've seen that before

just checked, yep, you're missing Microsoft Visual Studio, more specifically, a library file provided by it.

>French people on the internet

>>61834915
>official /g/ browser
But most of /g/ already hates it.

>>61844686
>ree I am too /g/ to run old software
>uses binary instead of compiling it

??? kys

>>61848817
>blaming your shitty software on other people

>>61834915
Stop shilling your failure.

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>>61844784
Nice rice. Nice minimul browser. I wrote a similar solution on my end. Took me about an hour to implement everything I wanted in it and it's already more developed than Netrunner will ever be.

>>61848869
Any repo where I can check your work ?
I'm curious about those

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move over, mozilla

Give it vimperator style binds and no other way to use it

>>61848834
it's completely normal for binary packages to be updated slower than their dependencies, expecially when it's such a small project. this has nothing to do with shitty software, it's just that you expect something done for you which you could do yourself because you're an entitled millenial thinking everything in the world is made for you

>>61834915
Will it run on rust?

REMINDER

https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/

Don't be naive like they were. Always be on guard.

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We are making a web browser!

>>61849596
>VB

>>61849556
What do you mean

That the NSA will steal netrunner's brand to make their own botnet?

>>61849654
they will try to poison the well and turn developers against each other

>>61834915
So, NetRunner is just a xcode drag and drop app using webkit?

That's what the picture implies.

>>61849698
This is probably bait, but I still have to ask, how does the picture imply that? Can you actually get rendering this bad using webkit without trying to break it on purpose?

>>61837498
Thumbs up

Does it matter which repo i download from? Tried the github one from the OP, but the input box doesnt show up when ive compiled it.

>>61851481
https://gitgud.io/odilitime/netrunner/

>>61851549
thanks bro

It doesnt play well with i3

>>61834915
is netrunner our last hope desu my senpai

>>61851844
Yes

Or Qutebrowser but
>python
>qt

Netrunner, on the other hand, is going to be pure.

>>61851926
Why is the programming language something is written in even such a big factor when using it?

>>61852048
Because it's not pure.

Python is slow and interpreted. In practice it doesn't matter that much, but the kind of people to want to use qtbrowser or netrunner are also the kind of people to be running 20 year old thinkpads, so it can make a difference in some cases.

The other problem is Qt, which is often criticised for being bloated and inefficient.

>>61852095
>Python is slow and interpreted
http://dadgum.com/james/performance.html

>>61852095
Your argument is actually so dumb, that I feel need to throw one more link at you.
http://prog21.dadgum.com/52.html

>>61852329
>>61852384
>dude old PCs are slow and new ones are faster lmao! xdd
No fucking shit nigger, that doesn't make interpreted languages faster than compiled ones.

Why isn't the github being updated

>>61850055
You can make it render horribly quite easily.

Does this run on mtiple processes? I want to browse the web using 16 threads.

>wingdings
>install Visual C++
>restart
>cd into netrunner directory (not in the C drive)
>try to netrunner into 4chin
>VCRUNTIME140D.dll missing

>>61853268
But does it happen naturally when you try to develop a good browser?

>>61852770
That doesn't make them too slow to implement your solution either, retard.

There are many good and big applications and other software written in Python.
Flashcards program Anki, original BitTorrent client, ebook library manager Calibre, configuration management engine Ansible, Deluge BitTorrent client, Bazaar and Mercurial revision control systems, OpenStack IaaS platform, Pip, Portage and YUM software managers, Salt automation engine.
YouTube relies extensively on Python, Dropbox is using Python, NASA is implementing their CAD/CAE/PDM repository and model management, integration, and transformation system in Python.
There are also games extensively using Python, and these include Civilization IV, Battlefield 2, Eve Online, and World of Tanks.
Python has been used for real-time solutions where the fastest required response time is 1 millisecond, and the bottleneck here was Linux, because any higher precision would require real time OS. Python is being used in Air Traffic Control.

But yeah, better spout memes and pretend to argue about things you have no slightest clue about.
>dude runtime-compiled languages are slower than compiled languages lmao! xdd

>>61854389
Nice fake info, Rossum. Please, write more!

>>61854439
t. everyone I don't agree with is shill

>>61844784
>from internet import browser

FAGGOT

>>61854439
Not that guy but you do know that you can compile Python and call C code from Python? You do also know that the biggest performance factor is the algorithms used, not the language used?

>>61855931
I really like this idea and the project overall. I have a question though, is there anything wrong with using another browser like Epiphany or Midori as a base? Or at least taking code from them? That would get a lot of the grunt work out of the way so you could focus on the cool stuff.

>>61854389
>being this salty
What if I don't want Python installed on my machine? It's a needless extra dependency.

You also completely ignored the Qt argument.

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Why make a browser instead of an alternative to the web?

I'm recommending 9f or gopher plus postscript as a replacement.

>>61851926
This

>>61852095
>the kind of people to want to use qtbrowser or netrunner are also the kind of people to be running 20 year old thinkpads, so it can make a difference in some cases
Holy shit, that is me.

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Why not just use wget and parse hypertext with your eyes?

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/gd/ in full action

>>61859510
This may actually be the worst logo I have ever seen in my life

>>61834915
Nigher

>>61856244
Existing open source browsers all use WebKit (Apple owned), KHTML (terribly out of date, tied to KDE), Gecko (pretty much just Firefox and forks thereof due to embedding difficulty), or Blink (Chrome). Someone wanted a different path and here we are.

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>>61834915
redpill me on the HTML parsing algorithm

how hard is it to implement compared to standard XML parsing?

can someone tell the main guys to put the osx sierra look for windows

>>61859510
I appreciate that they're trying, but the original moonman was better

>>61859510
this makes me never want to use it

Make the logo a cybernetic roadrunner.

>>61859510
nut rudder

>>61856508
that's too smart and foss for 4chan

>>61861042
Can someone tell the main guy not to listen to this guy

>>61861037
It's pretty easy to do, you can just use regex.

>>61856508
That's what GNUnet is for friendo.

Any dependencies for solus?

>we are making a weeb browser

>>61854359
>netrunner
>good browser
Pick one.

>>61859510
>mfw when /g/ spends more time on logos than code and their logos are absolute garbage
I can only imagine how bad the code must be Anon.

>>61834915
>https://gitgud.io/odilitime/netrunner/blob/master/src/html/HTMLParser.cpp

Jesus that's absolute garbage /g/. Is everyone here a fucking brainlet?

>>61866917
*/gd/
blame on the right neets

>>61835803
>webkit

>>61844784
>QWebView
How impressive...

>>61848869
Webkit?

>>61837399
>"Why does that beachball have glasses"
>"oh wait a minute"
ror

>>61859510
/gd/ is and always has been total shit. they're like 1000x worse in graphics design than /g/ is in programming or /mu/ in music production. I can't believe such level of shittyness is even possible. even /wdg/ has better graphic designers than them
end rant

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>>61837399
Mmm, I'm a software engineer with networking experience and I was going to actually contribute to this project...

Until I saw this

I don't see why it's so difficult to understand why the logo ought to be a cybernetic roadrunner.

>>61869515
>MUH MOONMAN

>>61834915
>Writen in C.
not gona line, that C thing made me laugh

>>61834915
I think you guys should reinvent the fucking browser thing and return to the old days of gopher and everything that requires image or video support just use it in combination whit an external tool already present in your OS

Man, everything looks so ugly without CSS.

> ./netrunner example.com
/g/ntr - NetRunner build Aug  2 2017
Invalid resource type

>>61871810
./netrunner http://example.com/

netrunner: error while loading shared libraries: libGLEW.so.2.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Is this baka not available in solus? Had the ilbglu error first but was able to get those files

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>>61835215
Yes we display these links correctly. Regex is not a good idea here.

>>61838103
It a function of how many people are hacking on it. It will take a long time.

>>61849237
Keybindings will be configurable

>>61849251
no

>>61849698
Nope.

>>61851781
How so?

>>61853005
None of the dev team have contact with 5yph3r and I refuse to use SJWhub

>>61854115
Yea, we have mutlithreading plans

>>61856244
Midori and Ephihany are WebKit and it's not as flexible for the type of API hooks we want to expose. We're not afraid of a little work.

>>61856508
That's kind of the idea, we're building this to support any protocol or language. So you could build the next web with this.

>>61861037
The w3c spec is clear that implementing HTML is a nightmare and the language was optimized for writing not parsing.

>>61861042
It'll be skinnable.

>>6186683
>>61872607
The dependencies would be the same: glfw, glew, freertype, and harfbuzz

>>61866904
I doubt we'll ever be a good browser but we're targeting easy to develop/hack on.

>>61866917
>>61866949
Most of the code right now is throw away. We're just building a proof-of-concept, so we can take the lessons learned and build a proper architecture later.

>>61869483
Please join IRC if you're serious. You'll see the repos don't have any of this shit.

>>61870898
I don't know who makes these OPs. They're clearly not in touch with the dev team. It's written in C++.

>>61872720
OK but can you make the logo a cybernetic roadrunner?

>>61834915
I would use it not for the weebshit.

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>>61873035
it's removable in the next version

>>61873083
So its fucking shittier

>>61873083
endchan is cancerous

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>"web browser"
It has more similarity to a text manpage viewer than to a browser. Even the windows 3.0 help viewer could render more than this shit

>>61873886
>doesn't understand work-in-progress

>>61873111
4chan is even more cancerous you fucking nigger

baked-in adblocker +adnauseum when?

>>61874840
It can't even display ads. So it's kind of already there :^p

>>61834915
This project has piqued my interest in browser technology and I want to create my own browser from scratch.

How hard do you guys think it would be to make a complete browser from scratch (parsing, layout, styling, rendering) minus javascript?

Is this a reasonable project to take on or should I just read Tali Garsiel's browser essay and be done with it?

>>61875114
That's essentially what this project is doing.

>>61875123
I thought netrunner was attempting to be a text-only browser?

>>61875145
Nope, it's attempting a full browser from scratch with low-dependencies. Has OpenGL bindings now, adding framebuffer and TUI later.

>>61875172
I see, that's really cool.

I'll go at it on my own for now, might try contributing to netrunner later on.

>>61875205
Awesome, having some fresh ideas/code to look at would be helpful too.

Take a look at this thread for a discussion of the source of Opera 12.15.
>>61875735

a text only mode would be good, if just for ricer screenshot purposes

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15000253

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>>61876314
Don't worry, it's a /g/ project

Nice job guys, you made it onto HN.

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I threw together a thing.

>>61876355
>HN jews downvoting all of OPs comments
it seems the upstart crowd wants us to be apart of the botnet

>>61876880
Was an auto-anti-spam thingy that auto downvotes new accounts to prevent spammers. They've fixed it

Is a specific version of LibGLEW needed?

>>61877712
only if you used the prepackage binaries (they need 2.0). If you compile it, you should be able to use any version.

Good lord who thought it was a good idea to post this on HN.

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>>61876727
Remove the shadows. Remove the gradient only on the moon part. Darken the moon. Then remove everything within the circle.

>>61875945
rip

The logo should be the letter n walking in on t and r having sex.

It's ntr after all.

>June 17th
>Initial commit

Have you been simply making a wish list and shitposting for two months?

Why are >>>/g/nrg the only ones who managed to get something working on /g/?

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>>61880054
Yup, no progress here.

>>61880206
removable in next version

Redpill me on this browser of yours, /g/
Why should I use it instead of all the others?
t. /pol/ack

>>61880293
Don't, its shit. Wait until some anon builds a better one and releases it.

Just use ungoogled-chromium until then

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>>61880293
You can review all our source code quicker than any other browser. Plus we're slower moving so you can keep up the review easily. We're focused on privacy, anonymity and security. Also plan to be highly moldable (so if you don't like something you can change it)

No worky worky on botnet 10 ; ^ ;

>>61880239
Good work guys, but judging from the avatars this woman has lost her composure.

>>61880726
>botnet 10
theres your problem friendo

The GLEW backend is super neat. If this ever gets good enough to shitpost on 4chan I'll try porting it to Haiku.

>>61880726
dll hell. Visual Studio 2017 runtime 32 bit is needed on Win7 but we haven't figured out everything needed for Windows 10. It's the same DLLs but says not found.

How do I join the IRC from atomic?

>>61880897
Why don't you guys use mono?

>>61880923
atomic?

>>61880938
Could be done in any language, we chose what worked best for our team.

Will there be lua scripting support?

>>61880897
Why dont you build for windows with gcc? VS is full of telemetry and shit.

>>61881020
If we do this right, you'll be any to script in any language. Though I have been tempt to just embed lua and do some of the logic in scripting instead of c.

>>61881058
1. I don't have mingw32 installed, 2. I feel that MSVC probably makes better windows binaries. 3. Having a 3rd compiler with it's own warnings and engine helps improve code quality

>>61854389
Anki and Calibre are fucking garbage. I would love for somebody to write a decent Anki replacement. I might do it myself. It's such an enormous piece of shit.

How many devs other than odiltime are working on this?

>>61881244
2 currently (active contributors) and we may have picked up 2 more tonight from HackerNews

>>61881181
>I would love for somebody to write a decent Anki replacement.
I might do it for my masters project.
I'd have to think about how to make it different though because my uni doesn't let me just rehash stuff.

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>>61880923

>>61881561
Thank-you

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Our nightly linux build system is now working again (134 new commits since last successful build before this)

https://gyroninja.net:1615/job/NetRunner/lastBuild/artifact/netrunner

Note the current build has a known issue with scrolling.

>>61847364
Eat a frog, froggy.

Will this browser be usable by november?

>Written in C++
Well, suckless will sadly never approve of this browser now

>>61882689
no

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gr8 progress

>>61875114
>Is this a reasonable project to take on
no

>>61882689
haha

>>61883005
>>61883208
When will it be done? I'll be on qutebrowser or surf by the time firefox 57 comes out

Spend the last 4 hours trying out browsers.

Everything is shit, I really hope you guys succeed.

>>61883254
it'll never be "done". it's more of a research project. MAYBE it'll be usable enough to browse 4chan and stackoverflow in a year or two
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15001233
but don't expect it to replace your main browser.
also you'll be back to firefox in half a year when the no extensions fud meme is over

>>61883208
>glasses
dropped

>>61884104
are u ""gey""?

>>61834915
I guess number of useless commits took the e-peen crown from minimizing LOC

>>61834915
hey guys, serious question, why not use an existing rendering engine?

>>61886234
There's over 500 webkit browsers, isn't that enough for you?

>>61882689
for a handful of websites, it's possible

>>61886234
Too many dependencies, not easily changed (all subsystems are interdependent).

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>we are making a weeb browser

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>>61889101
And it works!

>>61889101
>tfw we will never get another IDE/programming language as comfy as VB6

any chance for a snaps package?

flatpacks arent gpl and appimage isnt sandboxed

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>>61889539
hnng

muh floppydisk

>>61836109
you need to change that homosexual font first

>>61889798
thanks, works now

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>>61889539
Now with fidget spinner animation!

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>>61890191