/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Whats a good mobo and memory combo with 1600x? Preferably in white or silver

I was going to pull the trigger with x370 taichi and g.skill until I read asrock eol shit.

Anyone with good knowledge of nvidia have an educated guess as to when volta is expected? My rx480 4gb is holding back my r7 1700 im ready to upgrade and possibly go from 1080p to 1440

If I want to buy 2 x 27 " screens and I usually just use GNU/Linux, should I go for 1440p or is 4k worth it?

Right now at work, I'm using a 27" Dell screen which is capable of 4k, but I'm running it at 1440p all the time because 4k feels uncomfortable. Now on a long run, with software improving and high dpi scaling getting better, should I already buy a 4k screen?

Right now I'm using 2 x 22" Full-HD Acer screens

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>No Pentium recommendation

>>61830980
Why would anyone buy an Nvidia card if they are gimped on purpose once their successors are released?

How much does CAS latency matter for performance with RAM? I'm having issues finding anything lower than 15, for DDR4 2400 RAM.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cJzPBP

Max budget is $1750

I really just want to play vidya games, but would also enjoy the power to run some VM's, and do linux/AI related things for college. Can the 7700k accomplish this? The goal is to not need an upgrade for a long time.

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>>61831571
>t. amdrone
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01/geforce-treiber-test/2/

>>61831654
depends on the application. For gaming (the default use case in this thread) it matters very little. I'd rather have ram with a higher clock speed and worse timings than lower speed and good timings. Plus you can always try a manual tweak yourself.
>>61831085
>holding back my cpu
That's not how it works, in games at least. Volta is quite a ways off. I say dump off your 480 while it still has some value and just buy a Pascal now. Or a Vega 56 which is soon™

>>61831654
Not much. In general you'll want to prioritize bandwidth over latency(especially with Ryzen), and just get the best RAM that doesn't command a huge premium.

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What case and power supply would be suitable for this set up?

>>61831912
what are these lines trying to convey

>>61831684
I really only have nitpicks here. Ryzen would probably be better for your VM works, but i7 better for gaming. Up to you really.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KJXgM8
Here's my list of suggestions. You forgot a power supply so this is my suggestion, decently built, more than enough wattage. Cheap. The storage swap is just personal preference since Seagate's new models are pretty good.
The graphics card is because the Evga ACX 3.0 cards have an issue where, under extra circumstances, the VRMs can overheat and catch fire. They updated the cards to mitigate the problem, but I still suggest steering clear of the Evga Pascal series besides 1080ti.
Case is 99% personal preference. If you liked the other one, go with that instead.

>>61831912
Seasonic prime titanium, probably. If you're going to spend all that money, you can afford it, so might as well.

My dad runs a business from a laptop and external backup, and said laptop died. Stupid fucker of a thing bricked with a Windows update and I can't pull it back to an older version. He is actually awesome and per instructions has ran nightly updates so he lost zero content.

He's indicated the most intensive shit he does is Skype while reviewing access databases and excel sheets. I have some parts to use already; motherboard pushes me towards Ryzen, which is better than CrabbyCakeLake or whatever the fuck its called anyway. Feedback appreciated.

Don't have all that much cash to spare, but want to shout him this one.

> CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($245.00 @ Shopping Express)
> Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (already owned)
> Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (already owned)
> Storage: ADATA - Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ Mwave Australia)
> Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($63.00 @ Shopping Express)
> Video Card: MSI - GeForce GT 710 1GB Video Card (already owned)
> Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C White ATX Mid Tower Case (already owned)
> Power Supply: be quiet! - 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (already owned)

Anything to tweak? I do have an old Gainward GTX 570 to drop in if the GT 710 is too under-powered.

how do you know/tell if a mobo has "good" or "bad" VRM?

>>61831993

That I have purchased them already desu.

>>61832046
>Seasonic prime titanium, probably.

Thanks desu. What wattage would you recommend?

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>>61831706

>>61832055
nothing he does requires 1500x, 1200 would be enough. you can also get a smaller ssd, i doubt he'll use more than 100gb.

>>61832055
Will he really notice the speed difference from SSD to justify $115 of the budget for it?

Ask him if he needs space or speed.

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>>61832150
DELET

>>61832165
If you're going to 1200, might as well at least get the 1300X

>>61832132
google the model (and obviously don't jump on a platform early)

also making sure there's enough real ones, not just digi-phase crap

it's not 1994 anymore so if there's enough phases and it's implemented correctly you're pretty much right; wait for the market to beta test for you, and once you know a platform is stable trust the balance of feedback out there

>>61832165
> i doubt he'll use more than 100gb
currently has 341Gb of content to migrate

>>61832028
good build but that monitor is fucking garbage. get Viewsonic XG2401 if you don't want to get eye cancer

>>61832230
and how much of that are files he uses constantly? you have hdd for storage.
other option would be getting 480gb ssd and store everything there

>>61832185
complete noob here, what makes (6+2) better than (4+2) or (4+3)

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html

>>61832230
So off the bat the 240GB SSD isn't going to be enough.

Factor in actual usable space, you're down to ~220GB. Throw the OS into the mix, probably 10, looking at another 10-15GB. Finally bring in the programs and you can start looking at what's left.

So what is the extra TB for then?

>>61832266
porn

>>61832252
lots of video swapped in and out of his various websites my dude

>>61832263
Load balancing.

>>61832230
Also what was he on before, a regular laptop HDD? 5400RPM?

Not only can you salvage that for the new desktop, it also sets the bar pretty low.
You may be underestimating a 7200RPM as a daily driver to someone who needs space over speed.

>>61832393
>>61832263
>>61832185
If I don't intend to go crazy with the overclocking (say, not past 4.0GHz and/or 1.4 volts), does it matter that much?

>>61832480
>not past 4.0GHz
You imply there's anything beyond that.

>>61832150
people still use this shit? it was common knowledge that bethesda botched this patch which added some fancy features for nvidia users but it was fixed literally like 2 days later

>>61832706
seen plenty of people hit 4.1, but they generally have to go pretty nuts with the CPU cooling to get there

I'm ona 2600k with a 980Ti @ 1440p 144Hz.
This setup isn't hitting the frames I want it to, for example BF1 dips to <70 too much. Thinking of getting a 1080Ti but not sure about the CPU.
7700k seems the obvious choice but it is a lot of money and I like the idea of a Ryzen CPU but they to perform seem underwhelming for gaming, not sure if it will be a big upgrade coming from a 2600k.

I'm on a GoySync monitor btw, so Vega isn't really an option.

Is there any noticable difference in going from a HD7850 to a RX460 or do I have to get a 970 or 1060 or something since the 570 and 580 are nowhere to be found?

>>61832893
Or is the 960 a good upgrade from the HD7850? I see a lot of used 4GB 960's on Ebay for a decent price

>>61832893
iirc the hd 7970 ghz edition became the 280x/380x, both of which are around rx 460 performance i believe.

the hd 7970 ghz was faster than your hd 7850.

my noctua dh15 feels like it got stuck after I lowered it onto the cpu. One of the screws was misaligned and now it won't even lift up any ideas

A guy in my area is selling his EVGA 1080 FTW for $450, here is my current build
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G6DYD8
I feel i should go for it

>>61832833
Definitely get a new CPU first to see how it affects you. Wait for Coffee Lake get the i7

Do not by Kaby Lake in current year

>>61833132
make sure that it works before you buy it

where did this "seagate is garbage" meme come from

>>61833153
they had a year or so of drives failing entirely too often, and it's taking a while for reputation to recover

>>61833182
I see. what year was that? I've bought a few seagate drives over the years and only a laptop drive failed on me.

Is the Corsair CX500 V2 worth buying?

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>>61833200

>>61833252
link plx

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Any guess when Ryzen Refresh will come out?
If its soon, I'm gonna bought an R3 now then upgrade to R5 later when the refresh version came out.

>>61833127
p-please respond

>>61833330
it'll come out two minutes after you buy your first Ryzen

>tfw won't have the cash to build my pc until next month
>can't stop changing the parts and watching how to build videos
What is this feeling

>>61833350
plz no bully.

>>61833354
it's the constant need to build something, go buy a couple lego sets or something

When are prices going to go back down? How can we make prices go back down? Who do I need to kill?

>>61833330
Late next year

>>61833383
Everyone on /biz/

>>61833383
they won't go down until coinminers are eradicated off this earth

>>61833354
My parts wish list on Newegg is currently $3300+ for a computer which will cost at MOST $1500, because I've got my eyes on so many different possible components....

>>61830980
I have $700 Canadian in BTC tucked away, is that enough to get a good gaymen PC? I only own a Thinkpad now. If not, what's the minimum I need for it to be worth it? I don't want to buy low end shit because I already have a PS4 for games currently.

>>61833252
Doesn't the CX series have poor build quality?

>>61830980
>want to upgrade PC
>i5 4570 and R9 290
>can either get ryzen which im not sure will help me in games much
>or I can get a 1080 which might be bottle necked
ive made money from crypto but fuck me its annoying when you want a 580

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>>61830980
Why are i9s so much faster than threadrippers outside of synthetic benchmarks?

>>61830980
With how horrible the prices are right now, I wouldn't recommend anyone buying a pc

>>61833639
I believe the performance difference is less than 10% with the 4570+1080 combo

So, I'm new to OCing. I'm getting ready to trying to do it, just waiting on my Cryorig H7 to get here. I have a 1600 and a Asus Prime B350 Plus. What should I set the voltage offset to achive 3.8-4.0 ghz?

>>61833585
they skimped on the components.
build quality is acceptable.
no reason to get a cx when you can get a seasonic for the same price.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=11,71&sort=price&page=1

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>>61833680
High single core performance, but can't take heavy workload due to the CPU being a hot piece of shit.

>>61833768
should I get ryzen then? I do really want to.

>>61833792
So... in a world where developers are competent and develop software to properly utilize hardware, AMD wins.

But in the real world we live in where developers half-ass everything to meet deadlines instead of optimizing things, Intel wins and will forever win.

>>61833787
The low end Seasonic PSUs are crap too.

>>61833579
Define worth it, $700 is pretty low with Canadian monopoly, you'd need about $1000 for the sweet spot but the GPU prices are pretty fucked right now. Depending on how powerful you need your GPU and CPU to be.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7fMqZ8

>>61833829
A 1080 will last you a very long time, in the end it's up to you. Like I said the bottleneck you would get is barely anything, as such that it is a matter of choice

>>61833858
What developer would optimized their game based on HEDT platform?
i9 is an OC-ed Xeon, that's why people avoiding it due to the heat problem.

>>61833778
Look up what others have done and test your card for yourself, OCing varies between individual cards.

>>61833883
see I could either upgrade to ryzen therefore buying a new mobo (my mobo now has a fucked pcie slot) and add in another 290 that I have. Or I could buy a 1080 and stay with a broken computer. but one that doesn't sound like a jet engine

Is there any decent GPU in between the $200-300 price range? Do I have to get a 1050 Ti just because I don't want the 1060 with cucked 3GB VRAM?

>>61833960
blame miners. hey ruined the market..... again

Would it be alright to upgrade from a 1060 to a Vega?

>>61834014
would be the same as an upgrade to a 1080 , so yea if you want you can do that

Gayming only & a 1000$ budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tr7cD8

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>>61833982
Alright, have to get the 1050 Ti then. There's a sale on this at my local store, is it any good?

>>61834087
You could go from 80+ Gold to 80+ Platinum for just $10 right now, if you wanted to
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438055

>>61834150
I definitely would but I don't have the money right now. Thanks though.

any suggestions for a 1440p/144hz monitor?

>>61834104
Only 5 reviews on Newegg, but they're all positive

>>61834104
If you play 1080p@60hz then it should run most games fine at close to max settings, you'll have to turn down stuff like AA probably.

>>61830980
> No i5 unless discounted
Why though?

>>61834177
>>61834197
Eh, I'm going to temporarily use it as an eGPU on my laptop but I just saw that 10 series Nvidia GPUs have problems with running it as eGPU so I have to pick up a 560 instead. Is it worth spending an extra 25 bucks to get the Asus Arr Gee Bee model over the Gigabyte or Sapphire?

What game should I play first with my new build?

>>61834443
Civ 6

>>61833286
this has to be bullshit
not shilling seagate, we get WD but i'm a tech at a local repair shop and i see bad HGST drives basically every day

>>61834265
Mediocre in every way. Four cores with middling single thread clock. Need the cores? Get a Ryzen. Need the clock? May as well get an i3. Need both? Get an i7.

So, my PC don't enter POST mode and It keep restarting itself, I tried everything and It's proven that some component is broken. I already requested a refund for the MOBO and RAM, what other parts could be broken?

Is it worth getting an RX560 ITX even if you don't have an ITX case? It's cheap as hell at my local store, but will the performance or thermals blow?

>>61834523
I saw your reddit post

>>61834523
PSU, possibly, if it's not sending enough juice to your mobo
Try swapping that out?

>>61833863
Worth it meaning I wouldn't have to upgrade for a couple years to play newish games in 1080p at 60fps with high settings (I'm mostly looking forward to Cyberpunk 2077 or and hopefully a new elder scrolls in couple years). I'm guessing the build you posted would be able to handle current games fine

That build looks pretty good, but then then I still need a monitor(s), keyboard and mouse. I'll keep this saved though, thanks anon. Guess I can always upgrade the GPU later on once the prices come down

>>61834523
Replace everything twice and then realize you weren't using the correct video output

I want to build an NAS since I am running out of disc space. Besides the advantages of having my stuff stored centrally in the network, I wondered:
Is there a way to incorporate one of my disc drives in the NAS and hook that up to the TV to use it as a Bluray player sort of? Do NAS OS support this or would I have to go with some Linux distribution?

>>61833960
just get the 1060 3gb. i haven't seen any evidence from realistic usage which shows any signs of bottlenecking. hell, even the 1440p gaming benches i've seen don't show any vram stutter or limitations.

>>61832055
That's very generous of you but can he not afford a new one on his own?
Anyway I'd actually fall for the Intel meme simply because of the integrated graphics. G4560 or G4600 and a basic itx board in a small but well ventilated case.

>>61834534
do not get the 560. all benches show it to be slower than the 1050 whilst using ~30% extra power and running hotter. either get a 1050 or save for a 570 which is the next card up.

>>61834476
> Need the clock? May as well get an i3.
But will 2 fast cores be enough nowadays for some office tier work, browsing with a shitty browser and some light to mid gaming (1080@60 medium settings, nothing too new)?

>>61834643
>1060 3gb
nononononononono, don't listen to this anon

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I inherited a Haswell system and need a clean install of W7.
What is the recommended debloater after updates?

>>61834682
you can do those first two things with just about any fucking processor
and the third is within easy reach if you take said processor and strap a 1050 Ti to it

>>61834608
It's a pretty tricky situation regarding GPUs, the 1050 Ti handles most games at 1080p60 but you have to lower the settings in some games so it probably won't age that well. I would probably either get a cheaper card like a 1050 or 560 now and sell it and upgrade later when the GPU market isn't so fucked or try and find something like a GTX 970 used. You could also drop down to a Ryzen 5 1400 to save some money if you mainly care about games and don't do much CPU intensive tasks outside of it.

>>61834682
Yes. In fact for "office tier work" and browsing the fast dual core will beat the pants off a slow quad core.

Then we get into gaming. Most games are not currently optimized for quad core, and the ones that are will want a better clock than i5 can give. I say yes a dual core will be fine for now playing most games. And if not pay the extra $80 for an i7.

>>61834678
Who cares about it being a few FPS slower when it's better in DX12 and has more VRAM, meaning that it'll age better?

>>61834619
>computer restart itself
>somehow is because I didn't connect the right video output cable

I also tried every possible video output combination.

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>>61834643
>1060 3g

>>61834643
>just get the 1060 3gb. i haven't seen any evidence from realistic usage which shows any signs of bottlenecking.
Then you must not have looked at any reviews.

>>61834643
>1060 3gb
shoo pajeet, you have no power here

>>61834760
is this bait? unless you're running some beast of a gpu like a furyx or even the older 290x/390x gpu's with a fuckload of idling stream processors there will be minor performance gains on some shitty low tier gpu like the 560 no matter how much you want to delude yourself. there is no argument for aging better when these gpu already struggle as it is in 9/10 modern games.

as more the vram the 560 isn't powerful enough to take advantage of that full 4gb vram unless its solely used for texture settings alone, but that doesn't justify the massive price hike over the 1050 2gb or even the 560 2gb.

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>>61834794
Why is that kot so expressive?

>>61834822
find me ~10 different modern AAA games where the 1060 3gb struggles to play at acceptable settings and 60 fps because of the vram.

>>61834889
>find me ~10 different modern AAA games where the 1060 3gb struggles to play at acceptable settings and 60 fps because of the vram.
So you do admit that there is SOME evidence and you were just bullshitting before. GG, now fuck off.

>>61834840
>massive price hike
It's an 18 dollar difference between the 560 2GB and 4GB in my local store and the 1050 costs the same or 6 bucks less depending on the model, so why would I not go for the 4GB card?

>>61834942
when did i admit anything? i asked for 10 cases where there are issues. what am i supposed to ask for? 30? i know that would be a more realistic representation due to the hundreds of AAA modern titles in the last ~5 years but that's simply too much to ask hence why i asked for 10 only. if you can't even provide that minuscule amount (in comparison to the amount of AAA modern games within the last ~5 years) then you just got blown the fuck out with no facts to back up your implications of the 3gb being a limiting factor for games.

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Second monitor arrived. Another dead pixel.

Know what? Really tempted to just not buy monitors new anymore. Because I can get old used monitors for like $20. I can just use the $200 I'm spending on monitors on upgrades where I don't run a 100% chance of being fucked by shoddy manufacturing processes.

>>61834997
>when did i admit anything? i asked for 10 cases where there are issues. what am i supposed to ask for?
Why ask for so many if you genuinely think there is NO evidence? Either you're intentionally lying or you're a complete moron.

Now fuck off and kill yourself, retard.

>>61835045
ask for so many? 10 is "so many? what the fuck are you smoking? unless you're some ultra poorfag retard NEET basement dweller who can't afford more than fucking 5 games on steam in the last 5 years then 10 games isn't a lot to ask for. are you trying to say i should ask for lower than 10? what will that prove other than making your argument look like a bunch of outliers in the bigger picture. you're digging yourself into a hole as you continue with this argument.

>>61835089
Are you implying that I should show that I have purchased a 1060 3GB and should run benchmarks on my own computer? Because I'm not an idiot who buys (relatively)expensive products without looking at reviews, so obviously I don't own one.

10 games is in fact a lot to ask for, considering that all the reviews I've seen only use a dozen games or so(and most of those are the same ones between reviewers, as well). Now go kill yourself retard.

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>>61834953
if pricing is that close then it's up to you. if i was on that tight of a budget i'd save all the money i can like buying that $20 cheaper 1050 + a game or something but that's just me. i was quoting hardware unboxed (techspot) when i said massive price hike

https://www.techspot.com/review/1430-radeon-rx-560-vs-geforce-gtx-1050/

>Please do note, I strongly recommend shoppers to avoid 4GB RX 560s because the GPU really isn't powerful enough to properly utilize that much memory. This makes the price premium for 4GB versions impossible to justify in my opinion, so please opt for a 2GB RX 560, which should cost $100 or less.

>>61835089
>>61835154
As well, you said there isn't ANY evidence. Even a single counter-example proves that you're full of shit.

IT'S OVER
INTEL IS FINISHED

>>61835160
Getting the 1050 is out of the question anyways since I'm going to use it as an eGPU which doesn't work on Nvidia 10 series GPUs, and I will make use of the memory available since I mainly play esports titles

>>61834882
is that blini kot?

>>61835154
>>61835170
>i haven't seen any evidence from realistic usage which shows any signs of bottlenecking
>realistic usage

maybe you should try reading properly before you sperg out. if you're playing something at 4k ultra settings, yeah obviously there will be issues but that's not the target experience of someone on a budget who wants that cheaper 1060. at 1080p there won't be any issues as far as i've seen and it's up to you to comprehensively prove that this card is 100% useless for any form of gaming due to it's vram as you're clearly trying to imply.

also 10 games is piss easy to find as youtube exists. it doesn't take much to find gameplay vids of scenarios if there are even any at realistic usage settings.

>>61835265
you mean external gpu? it works just fine on 10 series gpu's. using those external setups is shit and never recommended anyway as it causes latency and you get decreased performance with any egpu over having that same gpu connected straight to your pc (or in your laptop if there is an option). jayztwocents did a video on it some months back with his 1080 and 1060.

>>61835267
>at 1080p there won't be any issues as far as i've seen and it's up to you to comprehensively prove that this card is 100% useless for any form of gaming due to it's vram as you're clearly trying to imply.
>100% useless
So not only are you 100% lying, you're also pulling strawmen out of your fucking ass. Just kill yourself already.

>>61835325
your whole argument was based on the implication that the 3gb vram in this graphics card makes it useless. are you now going against your own narrative and saying it's not? make your mind up at the very least. i'm still waiting for those benches btw. keep deflecting though. it's funny.

>>61835320
https://egpu.io/forums/expresscard-mpcie-m-2-adapters/nvidia-is-killing-off-mpciengff-m2-egpus-error-43-with-372-90/

No, it doesn't, unless you're sitting on a solution that nobody else knows about. And no shit I know it has decreased performance but unless you know of a better way to get better GPU performance out of a laptop from 2013 then I'm listening

How much should I save for a Freesync monitor. I either want to go Ultrawide or stay at 1440p.

>>61835372
>your whole argument was based on the implication that the 3gb vram in this graphics card makes it useless
No, my whole argument was that >>61834643
>i haven't seen any evidence from realistic usage which shows any signs of bottlenecking
indicates that you're either lying or haven't actually looked at any reviews for the card.
So stop moving goalposts, stop making strawmen, stop posting, and just kill yourself.

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Would the Vega 56 be a good/feasible purchase at launch, or should I just wait it out? Looking to buy a birthday present for myself, and I was thinking it's about time to move on from my R9 270X.

>>61835430
of which i asked you to provide a small amount of benchmarks at realistic usage scenarios to prove your case. i'm still waiting and you're still deflecting with no evidence 10 posts later. either reply to me with the requested benchmarks or don't bother at all since i'll keep referring you back to this post.

>>61835478
>of which i asked you to provide a small amount of benchmarks at realistic usage scenarios to prove your case
LITERALLY
ANY
REVIEW
Seriously, just kill yourself already.

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I've unpacked my R7 1700 today, inside of the package there was cooler, the processor itself and a small piece of paper called "Certificate of authenticity", on which there's a black box with "Serial number here:", the thing is, there's no serial number written in that box. Should I be worried?

Also I smudged the pre-applied paste on the cooler when removing it from the box. Should still be enough, right?

>>61835394
nvidia literally released more egpu support just a few days ago and i can't find any evidence of them blocking off egpu support other than that thread.

http://www.engineering.com/Hardware/ArticleID/15398/NVIDIA-Announces-External-GPU.aspx

>>61835470
Diddly this.

Planning on getting a 1080, currently running an i5 4460 I built my pc with in mid-2015. I've read that the performance bottleneck is less than 10% compared with newer CPUs, knowing that I wanted to check to make sure I'm not being fuddled

>>61834443
Minesweeper

>>61834443
3d pinball space cadet

>>61834443
Spider Solitaire

>>61835501
so you're saying if i look at "literally any review" i'll find 10 benchmarks which comprehensively prove that 3gb on this card makes it pretty much worthless as you're implying, yes?

>>61835538
Well. Haswell is not significantly slower than Skylake, that's true. And it'll look pretty good if you look at average framerates. But it's a rather low-clocked quadcore without SMT, which will lead to low minimum framerates and some (relatively minor) stuttering in many newer titles.

Also depends on the resolution, if you're planning to play at 1440p or higher, then fair enough, the 1080 isn't a bad idea. But at 1080p it would be overkill.

>>61835602
Kill yourself nvidiashill.

>>61835631
see >>61835478

my r9 390 at home says hi. but i'm an nvidia shill for putting up a logical point of which you're still yet to refute amirite?

>>61835508
Oh okay I found how it should look and all is correct.

>>61835676
I've yet to refute it because, as I've repeatedly pointed out, it's not logical. Go ahead and show me a review that tests 80 or 100 different games

>>61835515
>via a plug-in Thunderbolt 3 external chassis.
Try actually reading the link next time

>>61835508
What about the thermal paste, though? Is it fine? I think it's fine.

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1080 for £450 or 1070 for £350?

>>61835749
yet you just said "literally any review" will show me this (>>61835501) when i asked for evidence (>>61835478). you can't even keep your story straight, and i'm the "shill" here?

also by saying "80 or 100 different games" you just made the implication that it would take that many games to even find a single issue with this gpu if there even is one. you just proved yourself wrong once again.

i ask once again and please, don't deflect this time. provide the goods or don't reply:
>>61835478
>>61835478
>>61835478

>>61835800
it's fine

>>61835818
~20% more performance for £100. it's up to you desu. what's your resolution?

>>61835613
OK, good to know. This stuttering you mentioned, would those just be sudden FPS drops? Thanks

>>61835846
1080p 144hz

>>61835839
>also by saying "80 or 100 different games" you just made the implication that it would take that many games to even find a single issue with this gpu if there even is one.
No, you fucking idiot. I'm asking that because you keep claiming that finding 10 games with issues should be trivial. If you want to find a single issue, just look at literally any review.

What's a good 2k monitor for under $250? 60hz. Preferably under 3ms

>>61835907
see >>61835478

>>61835967
See >>61835430

I'm from Ireland and just wondering is it OK to buy from Newegg?Even with 100 shipping cost my build is 500 cheaper the any other website I can find.

>>61836006
Pretty sure that doesn't include customs or taxes. I don't know exactly how it works in Ireland or how much you'll have to pay, but it probably won't be nearly as cheap once you factor those in.

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>>61835977
>>61835478

i won't be replying again after this till you can provide the evidence i've requested to back up your rather poor, embarrassing and laughable attempt at an argument. good day

>>61836071
So you admit, then, that you're a lying piece of shit and have been deliberately wasting my time. Fuck off and kill yourself already.

>>61836006
iceland will fuck your ass with taxes

>>61836006
shipping is one thing. you might have to pax import taxes and whatnot.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/money_and_tax/tax/duties_and_vat/value_added_tax.html

>If your online purchase costs more than €22 you will have to pay VAT. If your online purchase costs more than €150 you will have to pay VAT and customs duty. This will be collected by the company that delivers your parcel. The company usually have an administration charge. Methods of delivery and collection differ from company to company, so you should contact them directly for more information.

What the fuck do I do? I can't seem to buy a monitor that isn't fucked up. Is there some trick to finding a monitor that isn't going to be retardedly defective in some way? How can they not manage to produce panels with working pixels?

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Are both sticks in a RAM kit equal? As in, I need to put them in specific slots for them to work, but as long as I put them in correct slots it doesn't matter which is which?

Also, I think I put my cooler the wrong way, there's no way for the cord to go around it, but I don't really want to unscrew it for now. I also screwed it improperly, I think, by tightening the side screws too much instead of slowly tightening all the screws in an order. I really don't want to try and remove it, I have thermal paste but no rubbing alcohol.

>>61836423
Fan too big

>>61836488
It's the standard AMD fan that came with the CPU...

>>61836495
is dat an assrocks shitboard? XD

>>61835916
2K as a resolution is 1080p. Sadly there are no good 1080p monitors. And 1440p monitors are only worse. And 2160p monitors worse still.

The monitor industry has inherent production flaws it can't manage to figure out, and as things ramp up it's just going to get worse.

Expect "50-60 defective pixels" to be an acceptable panel once 4K comes around hard.

>>61836495
Should've not gotten an assrock MB

>>61836495
Turn the AMD symbol the other way, I did the same mistake.

>>61836561
>>61836615
It's MSI Tomahawk Arctic.

>>61836633
I'll probably will once I get some cleaning alcohol. As it stands, the cord actually doesn't get in the way too much.

Let me update my question regarding monitors. Who has the best QA and who do they sell their panels to?

>>61836423
you don't need rubbing alcohol. it's not like you're cleaning something that's really mucky like an old fan or something. you just need any old cloth (lint free) and some regular surface cleaner and it'll do the job.

I have the opportunity to buy a used computer from a friend for 350$. I plan to use it for some light gaming but mostly to experiment with operating systems.
It's loadout is.
MSI LGA 1155 Intel MOBO
GeForce GTX 660 2GB
Creative Sound Blaster Z PCIe 116dB SNR Sound Card
i5

Is it worth it?

>>61836726
A ps4 is stronger than that. Just save up money.

>>61836736
He's also throwing in a monitor and keyboard. Still not worth it?
Is it really better to just buy everything new and wait for the Graf Cards to lower in price?

>>61836714
>regular surface cleaner
Like what? I don't have really have anything.

Think I fucked up and got too weak a power supply for my build

Ryzen 5 1600x CPU that'll overclock
1080ti EVGA Gaming overclock
16gb DDR4 3200 Ram (vengeance)
2 500 GB SSDs, 1 3 TB Seagate Barracuda Hard drive
Installing 1 fan in the front of my case
R5 Fractal Design PC case

PSU is 650W Seagate Gold+ ECO Friendly

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Hows this for value?

Going to re-use an old 970 until prices drop.

>>61836822
It's fine.

>>61836791
What monitor and keyboard?

>>61836795
you don't have any tabletop cleaners you use to clean up after a spillage or a stain or something? if the paste is not hard you can literally just use the cloth on its own to wipe it off. just do 4-5 good swipes to make sure it's all clean and it will be fine.

>>61836863
logitech g700s mouse
logitech g110 keyboard
Acer G206HL Bbd 20-Inch Widescreen LCD Monitor

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AMD eternally BTFO

>>61836922
I would save that $350 until you get enough for a good PC and monitor

>>61836996
Very well. Thank you for the input friend.

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Newfag here. Trying to keep it under $1500 leafbux. Is this any good?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jthnRG

how do i ensure i get my hands on a vega come the 14th?

>>61836876
I see. I dunno if I really should do that when it's already in place, though. I want to look at the kind of temps I'll get first.

I'm sitting here having to restrain myself from letting all the stress in my like flow forth and causing me to put my fist through this brand new IPS monitor. I just wanted one good thing in my life. I wanted a single good thing. Something nice. Can't even get that. Can't even have a shiny new monitor without something being fucked up. Can't get a fucking break. Even with something so stupid. It would mean so much but it just isn't allowed.

>>61837026
>$1500 will only get you that in canacuck?
Why is that

>>61837093
Because we're cucked.

>>61837091
This. Miners ruined me for getting a good gpu for the price

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>Ether has officially broken the $300 mark once again
When will this wild ride end?

>>61837026
Switch the CPU to non-X.

>>61837052
That pre-paste is always shitty quality anyway. Most reviewers even say they change the thermal paste on the stock coolers.

>>61837091
Pretty much everybody is having problems with those gaming IPS monitors. You're not being singled out by cruel fate. It's a common thing.

I'm returning mine and getting a TN.

>>61837026
>450W
You got me sweatin'

>>61836973
lol

>>61837202
It isn't even a gaming monitor. It's a Dell IPS panel. It's bare basic. It's all I expected. I expected bare basic. Nothing special. And they fucked it up. It's a 1080p 60hz monitor and they can't even fucking manage that. Dell can't. Philips can't.

I momentarily became excited about 2160p coming, but now I live in a state of rage and dread. Because there's no chance they won't just exponentially fuck everything up.

>>61837167
When private parties start buttfucking cryptocurrency with advanced computing solutions and cryptocurrencies even more blatantly centralize to try and control the technology used to mine and who is allowed to mine.

do you need a Z or X mobo to get the stock clock speed and turbo speeds on K and X CPUs?

or will you get those speeds in a lower end chipset and just not be able to OC it

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>>61837031

>>61837026

infinitely better gaming for the same price

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZKys3F

>>61837494
Oh shit thanks dude

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So Intel is still king. Big shocker.

There's nothing wrong with Intel

I have a really limited amount of money, is buying used ever a good thing? I don't care as long as my build doesn't fall below the minimum reqs next year.

>>61837629
Forget what he told you. Why are you cheaping out on the Case and PSU? Mor importantly, for a little. but more yiu could get a 1700.

>>61837656
Also, 750ti still decent at 720p?

>>61837645
how will amd poorfags ever recover?
they really should just kill themselves

How much should a second hand Intel core 2 quad q9650 cost me? How about a gtx 750 ti ?

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>>61837645
>Needing that much space to show a 1% difference
I swear, AMD vs Intel really is the /g/ equivalent of /o/'s GTR vs Corvette autism fest.

>>61837683

>cheaping out
>same exact PSU maker and wattage and rating

>case is going to fall apart if you dont spend 100 dollars on it

>>61837202
Do IPS panels have that many problems with them? I thought about getting XB271HU since I'm already splurging out for 1080 Ti so might as well step up from 1080p TN to 1440p IPS. Should I just get the TN version?

whats a good AMD gpu for the fx-6300?

and a good psu to go with it?

>>61837891
PS the fx-6300 is being overclock at 3.8GHz

>>61837645
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! DELETE THIS INTEL CHAD!

>>61837876
XB271HU is one of better ones IIRC, still you'll be playing a lottery with backlight bleed and dead pixels and such. If you already own an acceptable monitor, you might as well do that, just make sure you can return it if you don't like it before buying. Oh, and IPS panels have that quirk called "IPS glow", it's normal for an IPS to, some have more of it, some less, it can be quite distracting. Again, if you can return the monitor, should not be a problem.

>>61837876
Anecdotally I heard the 1440p IPS panels are dogshit.

By experience, I've bought 2 1080p IPS monitors and each had a dead pixel fresh out of the box.

The monitor sellers still have policies where they consider up to like 7 dead pixels to be acceptable quality standards for PC monitors.

Basically, the tech industry is a fucking joke. Monitors are one of the best examples. Brand names you may have felt held some measure of gravity or guarantee of quality in the past no longer mean anything.

>>61838013
Basically, I'm saying buying a $60 monitor is a totally legit strategy, because at least you can return it to Walmart and it has a chance of coming with a funny letter from someone in China talking about how hungry they are.

>>61837876
I must be lucky, of all the monitors I had none had any manufacturing defects like dead pixels.
The first IPS monitor I got recently was LG27UD68W 4K display. No dead pixels, no back-light bleed, and IPS glow is very subtle I only notice it on a back only background.

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/VRkkQV

Thoughts? Are MSI motherboards a meme?
144Hz monitor, used for gayming

Still haven't choose a graphics card since i do not know much about it.

Is this a decent/good pc? I have chosen for 8gb ram because i want to upgrade it later (in two months to 16gb). Next to that I amgoing to upgrade the HDD to a SSD & HDD setup also in the upcoming months.

But is this a decent PC and with what kind of graphics card should i combine it?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y8MPpb

>>61838316
By the way i already got two BenQ GL2760H Monitors (75Hz)

>>61838316
I just build in the S340 and loved it.
Maybe get a different power supply. A corasir 550m will save you around $20

>>61838352
I may try one of those next. How are BenQ in regards to quality control?

>>61836860
Thanks for the vote of confidence, I was using
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
Maxing it out with those parts (USB usage etc) and it ran up to 1100 watts

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I know this is /pcbg/ for build computers, and I already have a kick ass PC. However I'm looking to get pic related. A Chromebox for average use. Something I can keep on all the time and have it sip at power compared to my 1700X/980ti computer.

However my question is will the "Intel HD" support 1440p? My main monitor is a 32" 2560x1440p. I just want a cheap tiny box that can stream 1080p video and browse the web. I already have a chromebook and love it, so getting used to the OS is nothing. Please help.

Shit, I think I've gotten some thermal paste on my CPU pins when removing it. They seem to shine somewhat differently, they aren't bent though. Should I get some cleaning liquid and apply it just to be sure?

What's the best GPU on the market for around £200? In terms of buying power it's about equivalent to $200. Considering spending a bit more for an RX480 (£250 here, $300).

Mainly used for CS:GO with some higher end games like Civ, etc.

There is nothing wrong with being Jewish

>>61838528
Anything in the product reviews/user questions?

Intel HD Graphics on its own is kinda useless to determine how it stacks up.

>>61832055
>1500X
>asscock mobo
>white case
>bequiet PSU
Be honest, did you dad beat you up when you were a kid? What the fuck did he do to deserve this?

>>61838681
The paste is Arctic Cooling MX-4 .It's non-conductive, if that helps. And it's only on the tip of one or two pins, I think.

>>61838768
>asscock mobo
why is asrock considered bad on /g/?

>>61838768
hey white cases are cool

>>61838394
Thanks alot :)

>>61838474
I would not say too good, but i do not have too much knowledge of it. All i can say is having two of them was first a pain in the ass since my autismo was too bad and i couldnt handle the color difference (Screen one showed me the right white colors but the second one had some brown type of white, kinda weird) Trying to fix it was a pain in the ass because i am not patient at all for color tests. But overall i am happy with it, they do their job and i can do my job on them.

>>61838777
Because they have shit mosfets and try to bundle garbage bloatware in with their drivers.

>still no vga 56
I miss pc gaming bros, can this card release already?

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>>61838813
>he thinks vega is for gaming

>>61838901
>nvidia shill SEETHING

>>61838743
nope. Nothing. Although I'm seeing that some people are complaining about slight stuttering when streaming 1080p content. Yet others claim flawless. This is dumb. Maybe I can reach out directly to HP/Dell/Asus and ask.

Are the hardware H.264 encoders on the more recent architectures (Pascal/Polaris) noticeably better in quality than older stuff?

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>>61838916
>dumb kid doesnt know what crypto mining is
>he thinks he will just be able to walk into a store and buy a vega

>>61838802
what should i get then? according to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI asrock isn't that bad and has second best voltage control from all b350 boards. also good price and frequent AGESA updates.
msi apparently still suffers from long boot issues, gigabyte is trash and i don't know about asus.

I have a case, 600W power supply, and a hard drive. I have $650 and i need it to stretch as far it can go for CPU/RAM/GPU/MOBO. I plan on running Gentoo and doing a lot of software development, virtual machine hosting, livestreaming, video editing/rendering, and it's POSSIBLE i might play some gaymes. I know GPUs are fucked right now but do you honestly believe it's going to get better? I would like to buy new, GPU has to be AMD because drivers, CPU can be whatever but i need MUH cores. Can I have some assistance?

>>61838942
>dumb kid thinks i don't have someone in the biz to save me one
>weeb shitter
Ding dong diddly

>>61838945
>asrock isn't that bad
Yeah but if you buy one people in /pcbg/ will laugh at you, you don't want that to happen, do you?

>>61838956
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CyCJ2R
~$500 for cpu/ram/mobo. leaves you $150 for gpu. in case of amd the prices are fucked and the only one you could get is rx 460/560, which should be ok if you don't play games. ideal pick would be rx 570 before the prices skyrocketed, but that's impossible now

>>61839186
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8RVRPs
This is what I have sitting in my tab right now. I should have mentioned the case is MicroATX, but it has good enough airflow so no bully pls. Do I really need the B350? I have zero plans of overclocking anything,

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>>61839186
>>61839223
Is this a good deal for a 560? The only thing I really need it for is occasionally encoding and maybe playing a light game like I mentioned.

>>61839223
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CyCJ2R
well i'd pick a motherboard with 4 dimm slots. the cheapest one is only 10$ less than asrock ab350m pro4 (matx version), so even if you don't want to overclock now it would be a better investment in terms of future upgradeability.
ryzen benefits heavily from faster ram, so choose 3000mhz+, preferebly from mobo's QVL, so you have higher chances of hitting advertised speed.

>>61839277
rx 460/560 isn't powerful enough to take advantage of extra vram. just choose the 2gb version

>>61838945
>gigabyte is trash
ur mum

>>61839370
>get more ram slots
>get B350 chipset
>get faster memory
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xj2GNN

>the RX560 isn't powerful enough to take advantage of extra VRAM, go 2GB
I mean sure in normal gaming, but I'm also doing OpenCL encode, and that requires a little more memory. (it also needs a bit faster of a gpu but that's out of my price range)

>>61839370
>>61839461
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gfNPqk *

>>61839481
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gfNPqk
looks fine

>>61838316
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CyCJ2R
Is a XFX Radeon RX 480 GTR 8GB good for this build? Can buy it for like 250 euro. Is that decent? (Im in the netherlands)

>>61837494
>biostar

>>61832802
If you're still here. The first number is usually the phases on the CPU cores and the second is for the soc. There's more to it than bigger number is better and of you'd like to know more you should check out buildzoids YouTube channel and look up his motherboard breakdowns

Assuming I get isopropyl alcohol, is it safe to pour some in a dish and submerse the pins that I got thermal paste on in it?

>>61839993
Assuming it's 99% it's totes mcgotes fine. I'm a dumbass and spilled a shit load of thermal paste around my 1080Ti die, I just poured isoproyl on it, let it eat away at the paste, then blew it off with a air can. Since it evaporates it can't damage electronics unless they are powered on.

>>61840076
It'll probably be 91%, 99% is hard to find.

>>61840085
>99% is hard to find
eBay? You can buy it by the litre as 'medical grade' where I am.

Anyway 91% will work just fine.

>asus gtx 1070 for $415 sold out
I really hope i could snatch a vega 56 before the miners

>>61837026
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KHKFD8

580 8gb/1060 6gb would be better but they're all overpriced. You could also downgrade to a 1050ti or get a gtx 1070(if you can stretch you budget a bit)

You could save some more on a cheaper b350 board or 3000mhz ram, it won't have much of an impact.

Do you need an igpu to run virtual machines? If I use VMware or Virtualbox they as me to enable intel graphics. Can Ryzen run VM's then?

>>61840354
you need at least 2 gpus
can be igpu and dedicated or 2 dedicateds

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What gpu should i get to run modern games at 1080p maxed?I want a 1070 but the prices are just silly.

>>61840399
so do both video cards need to be the same or can they be different.q\

>>61840447
miners have fucked up everything. wait for the market to stabilize

>>61840492
is it really going to happen?

>>61840517
Could be months or years from now

>>61840553
im sad about it :(

Hey I'm entirely new to building a PC but I'm in dire need of a new computer and heard that building one is cheaper/better than buying one premade. I've got about $1000 US budget and I'm planning on outputting to a tv. I'm hoping to use it for 3D modeling/gaming/tinkering with unreal engine.
Would this even end up being possible at my budget? I've also got no clue where to even start.

>>61840586
Miners have fucked up the GPU market at the moment.
You can't get mid-range graphics cards anywhere, and when you find them, they're overpriced.
My advice: go to ibuypower and build a PC with a Ryzen 5 1600 or a Ryzen 7 1700 processor. Look at wither an AMD RX 580 graphics card or a 6GB nvidia GTX 1060 card.
Go for an SSD+2TB HDD combo.

>>61840650
Thanks!

>>61840680
https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD-Ryzen-5-Configurator

>>61840585
Same

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h-how about them bitcoins fellas? hehehehe...

>Craigslist post
>4 junker monitors for $50
Hmm.

>>61840896
Bring a gun and 2 other people with you

>>61840911
Heh. Yeah.

Not the post, but this one is funny as fuck. I'm almost tempted to get a truck.

https://westernmass.craigslist.org/sys/d/free-computer-monitors-printer/6227802557.html

So, should I build a small mATX desktop for college or just get a moderately powerful laptop?

So while I was installing my graphics card I had to pop it out to reorient it a few times so the screws would go in and at one point my screw driver bumped the mb a bit because I had to use my blunt side of my screw driver to hit the release hatch

do you think that I'll be ok and that I didn't just fuck myself

looking at a new monitor and GPU, if it wasn't for AMD's supply issues i would have gone for freesync, but right now just a standard 60hz seems my best option.

Looking at 27" 1440 res maybe.

With all that space and pins a tr4 socket provides, why doesn't AMD just make a 16c/32t 64ROP APU monster?

Wouldn't they make more money if nvidia and amd just make more GPU's due to this crazy mining fiasco?

>>61840748
That's sitting very comfortably inside my budgetary wheelhouse. How accommodating of aftermarket upgrades are they?

>>61841034
I do that shit all the time because my motherboard has one of those retarded retention clips you have to slide out rather than press out, since I've got a GPU with a back plate and a massive CPU tower cooler I have to use a screwdriver. I frequently scratch the shit out of my motherboard by mistake and it still works fine.

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>N O T Y E T D I S P A T C H E D
That implies that it might be dispatched soon... r-r-right?

Fucking hell. I had the 4GB model preordered on the 1st Juine too.

>>61840650

they ship to the EU from Germany.Will ordering from Ireland be a problem or the 25 euros shipping covers everything?

>>61841048
Good idea, AMD should have slapped a Vega 64 die in the free space they had on the 1950X PCB. I bet cooling a 700W APU wouldn't be any problem at all, and I think most people would be fine with needing five eight pin connectors for their water cooled motherboard.

>>61841102
Ok I'll stay hopeful that I have fucked myself

and for anyone with a noctua d15 do the clips have to go on separate radiators or is two clips on one radiator fine

>>61841127
How dumb are you? You're never getting it. Stop scrimping and saving pennies like a faggot and spend the extra 40 quid on a 1060 6GB, is it really worth saving pennies to wait two months to get a card?

>>61841158
>vega
Just use polaris. 350 Watt air cooling solutions exist.

I have all my shit installed and now only have cabling left

Is this the easy part or the hard part

>>61841230
I really hope you tested the system before cable managing it, anon.

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>>61841183
I preordered it preemptively. It is only over the last 2 weeks or so where I have moments where I could have put the card to use. Before then I was working on various courses etc. Will see what happens at the end of the month.

>>61841251
I don't have any cables plugged in yet what should I do

>>61841285
y-you mean you just bought a bunch of shit and are about to spend hours cabling it before you even know if it works?

>>61841083
Again, spec it to a Ryzen 5 1600, a GTX 1060 6GB, and an SSD+HDD setup. You should be $900-$100 at that point.

They're great for aftermarket upgrades because they use the exact same parts you would use if you were building a PC yourself.

The only alternative to them at the moment iss waiting for the graphics card market to calm the fuck down which doesn't seem to be happening any time soon.

>>61833901
>What developer would optimized their game based on HEDT platform?
Bungie

srs
https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/12/intel-worked-with-bungie-to-maximize-destiny-2-for-powerful-new-cpus/

>>61841149
email them and ask
ibuypower is a boutique PC builder meant for the US market.
There are plenty of other boutique PC builders that use Ryzen processors worldwide.
Here's an official list.
http://www.amd.com/en/where-to-buy/ryzen-custom-systems

>>61841304
>hours cabling
retard

>>61841424
>he doesn't do a top-tier perfect job of his cable management
Women are secretly laughing about your sub-par cable management.

>>61841304
If it doesn't work I'll just return it and buy new shit

>>61841012
For school always a laptop.

>>61841453
Now i'm curious about your cable management anon

>>61841634
For what reason?

Hey guys, I just built my first PC and everything works but the GPU and I'm at a loss of what to do. The GPU fan turns on when plugged in, but i don't get a display from the GPU ports, or the mobo ports.

This is my build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xmm4f8

If I take out my graphics card, my computer works fine. Even have windows 10 loaded up already. What the fuck is wrong with my GPU? Did I fuck something up? The card is definitely slotted in right since I can lock the card in, and it can't be a power issue since the fan turns on. What do.

Does AMD support a 3200 RAM now?
Why so many people listed them in their list?

how likely is the parts I bought just failing out of the box

>>61842216
0% if it is properly packed

who makes the best GPUs in terms of coil whine and fan noise without too much of a compromise on cooling efficiency?
my current EVGA 970 is loud as shit in both areas and I was thinking about upgrading soon, I can hear it loud and clear over my speakers

>>61842293
Set a proper fan curve and don't let the fans go to 100%

Will 1080 prices go down after vega gets release?

I'm split between going for an RX580 and a 1080p 144hz monitor and a 1070 with a 144op 144hz monitor. Are both of these monitors overkill for playing at 60 fps on high?

>>61842414
Vega is shit so no.

>>61841938
Please respond.

>>61842453
Get the monitor that will last you longer

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How is this for basic gaming/multitasking?

>>61842747
Get 2 x 4

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NvjYD8
Going for a computer that can game decently, with a total budget of $1k. Any advice on making it better, or balancing the parts to avoid bottlenecks?

Looking for any input on my first build. Budget of $3000 CAD. Goal is to do 1440p at high, minimum 60fps on most games. I play lots of fps with some stuff like Witcher and Dark Souls. Mostly AAA games but also some smaller games such as Arma 3, PUBG, etc.

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9n6cD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9n6cD8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($264.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($106.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($183.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.25 @ shopRBC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($629.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.98 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor ($889.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Keyboard: Logitech - G810 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($159.86 @ Amazon Canada)
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($94.45 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2897.47

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 21:54 EDT-0400

>>61842940
change the motherboard to an MSI B350 Tomahawk.

>>61842971
thanks! why do you say that?

>>61841127
You got scammed. I remember you posting this same order like 2 months ago

If I had to reorient my cpu cooler after initially placing it do I have to remove and reapply the thermal paste? It's newly applied

>>61843087
The Gaming Pro only has 2 ram slots, making future upgrades hard.
An mATX mobo in an ATX case looks awkward.
The MSi B350 Tomahawk is a great board. I personally am getting the arctic variant for my build.

>>61843176
Yes, any time you even partially remove a cooler you'll need to replace the TIM, unless its a pad.

>>61842940
a 1070 for a 165hz 1440p seems like a mismatch to me.

>>61843220
>a pad
what does that mean

I have a noctua dh15 for reference

>>61843263
what would you recommend?

>>61843266
Some shitty coolers come with a pad rather than paste, they are meant for low TDP components and obviously can be reused.

If you're using an NHD15 I assume you have a high power draw CPU, in which case it's dumb to just hope the paste is on there properly. Don't be lazy just reapply it.

>>61843220
also what do you use to remove it, will a cotton ball and rubbing alcohol work

>>61843306
I'm mainly worried that I won't be able to get it back in the case because getting that fucker on the motherboard was already a huge pain in the ass

>>61843278
depends on if you want 165hz or if 60hz is fine. I think only a 1080ti can attempt to reach 165hz at 1440p. But then again it depends on the game and the settings and if you're fine with not reaching the full potential of the monitor in AAA games.

>>61843340
what happens if i choose a 1070 and go with a 1440p 60hz, can my gpu "out-perform" the monitor?

>>61843317
Isopropyl works fine, if it's been recently applied it should come off pretty easy anyway. It's usually easier to apply the cooler then put the motherboard in the case btw.

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Does this seem like enough airflow for a PC?

It's more convenient to have it near the shelf rather than on the more open side of the table, but will it burst into flames?

>>61843365
1070 is usually the recommended GPU for 1440p 60hz so you'll be good if that's what you choose.

>>61843401
awesome, thanks!

>>61843388
it's fine. scooch the tv over 3 inches to the left if you care that much

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>>61843401

>>61843380
my case has no fucking room in it to move around where the cpu is basically especially since I already have the gpu in because I thought I was almost done

and the cooler is already in, I installed it earlier in the day and I'm sure as fuck not taking the motherboard out again because that's way too much effort

also fuck whoever told me to get the fractal r5 this case is a bitch to move around in, no fucking space and the screws are a bitch to put in

>>61843471
If it bothers you that much just monitor temps to make sure you aren't running a housefire and deal with it. Safest option would be to replace the TIM, but if it was recently applied it probably hasn't had that much time to harden and may be fine. It's once you move hardened TIM it goes like wet clay and is fucked.

>>61843471
you know what else is a bitch

>>61843541
I'm just salty

I will reapply it tonight and hope I don't destroy my motherboard or waste all my paste in the process because getting those screws to line up and them not doing it is what caused me to have to realign it to begin with

and every time I miss ill have to reapply the paste right?

>>61843401
should i get something with g-sync? do 1440p, 60hz, ips, g-sync monitors exist?

>>61843651
I haven't even read the reply chain

I felt like I damn near snapped my mobo plugging in the 20+4 pin power connector.