>It's GNU/Linux! Linux is just the kernel!

>>61784818
>GIMP is a good alternative to Photoshop

>>61784847
it is if you have more than 60 IQ

>>61784895
Then it stops being after you reach 3 digits.

>>61784923
>>61784895
GIMP fags eternally BTFO. How can GIMP ever recover?

>>61784847
Photoshop monkeys just learned some tricks at school without grasping the concept of the operations and are just unable to apply the same logic on GIMP.

>>61785036
GIMP still doesn't have layer effects. After all those years of being ridiculed.

>>61784818
Linux is just the kernel, and gnu is a subsystem
Just like how ntos is a kernel, and windows is a subsystem

>>61785061
Not to mention GIMP's algorithms for diagonal lines is ass cheeks

>>61785036
Nah, GIMP truly is dogshit. Layer management sucks, there's no way to select multiple layers, no way to use a transparent colour for the grid, no way to adjust curves for multiple layers simultaneously, no united transform tool, brush and gradient editor is useless, no way to tell what the hell's going on when rotating a layer on top of something complex, etc. etc. etc...

>>61784818
Except this is completely correct. Linux is just a kernel and a shitty one at that.

and GNU is whole base system and whole userspace... oh wait

>>61785141
>>61785077
Linux is a generalization, the name given to a daily of operating systems.
It's not an attribution list, so even if you think that GNU did a lot, that's no reason to include it into the generalized name.
In the first place, it's supposed to sound nice and be appealing, hence it can't include GNU.

>>61785141
Linux is probably the least shit kernel currently available.

>>61785187
It's still a kernel, are you arguing that Linux isn't the kernel?

>>61785187
s/daily/family/

fuck

>>61785247
Ah, no, I'm arguing that unless you are autistic you should realize without any hints from me that a word can have multiple meanings. Hope that clarifies it!

>>61785247
Are you saying the kernel isn't the operating system?

Does any Linux user here actually even unironically use any of the GNU things that accompany it, except maybe for a handful of geeks? I just usually boot straight into KDE and use mostly Firefox, Chromium, LibreOffice, LyX, VLC, CodeLite, NetBeans, Inkscape, k3b and a few other softwares, NONE of which are GNU.

GNU is literally unimportant and for most people the system could do without it.

>>61785294
Gnu provides most usermode translation to kernel, it's not as apparent as it is on Windows though, but it is still a subsystem

>>61785294
The libc they use is GNU, as well as the compiler they're built with. Note that I'm in no way trying to defend the disruptive behavior of GNUfags and just am offering facts as I see them.

>>61785317
>usermode translation to kernel
lol what

>>61785187
Dumb phone poster

>>61785340
The ELF load is part of gnu, it handles relocations and shit, and mapping shit like the vDSO in

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>>61785359
Dumb. Just dumb.

>>61785369
Did you just call ld.so a "usermode translation to kernel"?

Should we add every utility on top of the kernel into the OS name?
GNU/Xwindow/Pulseaudio/Linux?

Why special privileges for GNU?

>>61785036
The only people who think GIMP is good are people who only make frog posting memes.

>>61785417
It handles setting up the processes execution context, including requesting memory from the kernel, registering exception handlers, etc, none of which the kernel does, the kernel still has to do all the hard work in the background for the process to gain execution, most ldr syscalls aren't don't from the process being loaded

>>61785536
It's just ld.so, part of binutils. Usermode transition to kernel sounds like something they'd say at a Microsoft presentation in order to make it sound more important than it is.

>>61785584
I spend a lot more time doing windows dev, and get some of philosophies confused sometimes
On Windows, the apis arent statically linked (usually), so ntdll gets mapped into every process to dispatch syscalls instead of being calculated at compile time

>>61785629
I guessed it! Ha.

>>61784818
>I need arch for rice

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>>61785445
Should we call Windows just NT?
There needs to be some kind of differences between the name of the kernel and the OS.

>>61785685
I just call of botnet.

>>61785685
No. We should call Windows Windows and we should call Linux Linux. I'm sorry if it confuses you, but people who are not mentally incapacitated have no problem with this.

>>61785685
When people say "install windows", they mean "install an NT based operating system". When they say "windows", they don't mean xp, 7, or 10 or vista specifically.

The same way "Linux" should be used to identify all Linux operating systems, regardless of distro or presence of GNU.

>>61785685
No, because we call it after the trademark. Windows is the trademark. GNU isn't a trademark. Linux is.

Autism speaks

>>61784818
Hi Richard. Couldn't get enough of the inane comments, eh?
Good to have you back, bro.

>>61784818
>>61785187
>>61785269
>>61785445
>>61785725
You don't call Android android/Linux, you also don't call it Linux.
You don't call macOS MacOS/XNU, you also don't call it XNU.
You don't call windows windows/nt, you also don't call it NT.
Therefore, it's not Linux, it's not GNU/Linux. It's just GNU.

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>>61786095
kekkeroni

>>61785938
Kek

>>61785187
almost all of the core userland (bash, glibc, make, gcc, coreutils) is GNU

>>61785377
So you're telling me you somehow typed "daily" in place of "family" and it wasn't autocorrect? Sure thing kid

>>61786715
almost all of that can be replaced

>>61786715
>a lot of stuff nobody uses

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>>61784847

>Make sure you include my credit in any of your flash animations that uses these sprites!
>Make sure you include a credit to GNU in any of your distributions that implement Linux along with the above!

>>61784818
>Apple is good! You're just poor! Stop being poor!

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>>61784818

>>61787060
>using biased GNU uname

>>61786095
No, it's Systemd.

Seriously, Linux is shorthand for systems that use the Linux kernel. Android is Linux and so is ChromeOS, there is nothing wrong with calling them that.

>>61787090
uname exists in FreeBSD too
>>61787099
You can edit this to be windows too, it lost credibility when you edited uname. Uname is a free software and you can modify it

>>61787101
Is windows 10 linux too? lol

>>61787060
>firefox
>rust
>nim
>vscode
God, this screenshot is cringe galore!

>>61787132
No, but theyre both cancer.

>>61787149
What's wrong with them again?

>>61786095
I call windows NT if I know whoever I'm talking with knows what that means.
And I call linux lunix.

>>61787141
Exactly. Just because you can manipulate and rig your output it doesn't change the fact that uname will print out actual OS details by default

>>61787149
You don't have anything logical against the screenshot, otherwise I dare you to explain what's wrong with it

>>61787207
What do you mean ``broken``?

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>>61787207
>>61787263
>Lose arguments
>Show off ebic bash haxing skillz
Typical /gee/

>>61787263
What are you trying to prove here, you already lost your argument

Anyone else going to refute >>61787060? The two tried already failed

>>61787312
xxDDXDXDXDDDDD OMG #trolle
You can rub anti-butthurt cream around your asshole it if's hurting that much

>>61787309
bump

>>61787339
pull down your panty and bend over boi

>>61787309
Because a non-argument doesn't require refutation. That tool was written by the very people who wrongly claim you should call the system GNU/Linux to begin with. What did you expect it to return?

>>61787360
That tool exists in OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD and other Unix OSes, if it was wrong people would actually edit it but alas, they didn't.
Furthermore uname is FLOSS software which means they were free to do so as well. Any more argument?

>>61787207
>>61787263
>>61787312
This is pathetic
Go away pajeet/gook

>>61787402
>The power of autism
Wow autists lose their shit when they lose an internet argument don't they

>>61787382
>argument
There is none, all you can do is shitpost so you can pretend you won like >>61787400
>>>61787207
>>>61787263
>>>61787312
>>>61787402

Now that OP's argument failed, anyone here to respond to these? >>61787165 and >>61787205

>>61785685
I've always been calling it Windows NT Version whatever.

>>61787449
What a sad cuck

>>61787466
bump

>>61787466
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Real intellectuals think in concepts, not words. Which is why RMS crying about a name is laughable, almost discredits the whole FSF.

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>>61787207
>>61787263
>>61787312
>>61787402
>>61787449
>>61787499
You you got really angry that you lost an argument in 4chan

>>61787553
Did you respond to the wrong person? Can you tell me what's wrong with thing that are listed here >>61787149

>>61787579
the things*

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>>61787561
and you eat turds

>>61787579
Well Rust is a contrarian language, Firefox belongs to the grave, etc.

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>>61787590
Fill this up, famlam

We can specifically call names of distros, Gentoo, Fedora, Android, etc.

>>61787609
How can a language be ``contrarian``?

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>>61787610

>>61787618
By going against the established foundation.

>>61787634
>was a tissue needed for tears
>[x] No
I highly doubt that

>>61787648
In that case C was the biggest contrarian language ever made

>>61787651
I don't cry like a little baby on the internet like you

>>61787677
aww, sure

>>61787661
But it isnt now.

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>>61787677
>like you
BTFO how will anon ever recover

>>61787684
Which disqualifies it for being ``wrong``

>>61787466
Anyone.

I'm starting to think I'm getting too old for /g/

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>>61784818
>You're a criminal if you have something to hide

>>61788037
busybox is GPL licensed software

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>>61787382
>I don't know what a circular argument is: The Post
Keep grasping at straws, faggot.

>>61787466
>>61787793
>create and foster artificial controversy for publicity
>expect to be taken seriously
>whine when you're not
>"w-why won't you g-give me arguments?!?"
GNU/Linux isn't a thing. It's make-believe. Now fuck right off.

>>61786095
It's not GNU, it's Linux. That's the word that will let me convey the meaning to the person I'm talking to. GNU will fail to so it's not an option. GNU/Linux does not offer any benefit over Linux.

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>>61785482
people who only complain about frog memes*
t. pround frog poster and photoshop user

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>>61789824
>Strawman
>>61791150

I think you actually do not know what strawman is. Neither FreeBSD nor BusyBox has changed their ports of uname because YOU ARE JUST CLUELESS and they are not. It's GNU/Linux, the whole gtk environment along with all GNOME software is a GNU project. GCC is a GNU project and Linux is built with it, and your standard C library is GLibC. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings but it's just the truth.

Fuck, an OS is mainly based on its userland (GNOME/Gtk), Shell (GNU Bash), and the Kernel (Linux, built with GCC, licences under GNU GPL). Only blind hipsters and antifreedom MS shills will deny the fact that it is GNU Linux.

Ubuntu/Debian/RHEL/Fedora is GNU/Linux, Android is just Linux. Clear and simple. Don't like it? Fuck back to *BSD as if anyone gives a shit, stupid kid.