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Aesthetic Edition
Previous thread: >>61748521

IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

>New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)
https://pastebin.com/nBqTEbHn

>If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P SERIES, HP Elitebook (2570p, 8770W, 2170p), and Dell Latitude/Precision (E6430, E6440, E7440) if you want the Real Business Experience™

>Recommended models and mod guide:
https://pastebin.com/jVSuE175

>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

>xsauc buyers guide:
http://www.dankpads.com

>EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW

>Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1
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Are these keyboards all interchangeable?
L430 T430 T430S X230 W530 T530
Asking because I want to order one from China and I've never owned a T series so I don't know if the seller is lying or not. That's a really excellent feature if true that you can take the keyboard from a T430/T530/W530 and drop it straight into an X230.
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Arw is the new thinkpads not waterproof? I poured a basket of water over my t470 and it shut off and let out some of that blue smoke... funky smell. I tried turning it on and it wont come on. How to dry it?
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>>61777481
...
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So how did you guys modify your ThinkPad to make it feel more like the laptop you've always wamted?

>X230
>installed 16GB RAM because fuck it
>installed SATA and mSATA SSD
>disconnected the touchpad from the board and then glued it in place so it doesn't click anymore

I'd love to be able to 3D print a custom touchpadless palm rest one day
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>>61777481
you idiot. electronic devices are powered by blue smoke. when it comes out they're broken.
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Morning everyone
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>tfw t470p arriving some point this week
Thank god for that IBM friends deal
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>>61777625
I thought touchpadless palmrests existed or am I thinking of the X200/X210. I did most of that too but imo glueing the touchpad is unnecessary. You never actually come in contact with the touchpad if your fingers never leave homerow.
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>>61777689
I've always accidentally clicked the touchpad when I was using the trackpoint. I had it disabled so it didn't register the click but it was fucking annoying because the X230 touchpad feels cheap as fuck.

Since xx20 series there is no touchpadless option anymore
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>>61777884
I see. That said it's still at the size where you shouldn't be touching it by accident. This all went out the window xx40 onwards iirc when they introduced those fuck huge touchpads.
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>>61777316
I thought it would be cool, but that ThinkPad 555BJ is just a rebranded Canon NoteJet, which is manufactured by Acer. The hinge eats itself and it would be almost impossible to find one that isn't damaged.
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>>61778109
Muh dick.
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I'm very happy c:
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>>61778136
>tfw she's out there rn and looks exactly the same because she's a jap
Hold me lads.
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[spoiler]yes[/spoiler]
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>be me
>been Apple Fanboy since forever
>going to college
>need good laptop
>go to 4chan
>lurk because newfag
>hear about thinkpads
>repairable
>inexpensive
>heavy duty
>businesses class
>utilitarian
>suddenly converted
>so much x220 circlejerking
>suddenly want
>see if available locally
>no thinkpad x220s
>cry
>suddenly feel being drawn to macbooks
>resisting urge
>don't want to turn gay again

Pls help. Wat do.
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>>61778408
Just buy what you have in hand.
Thinkpads aren't that good as shilled here, and macbooks aren't that terrible.
Or search elitebooks or dell latitudes.
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>>61778408
Well if you want maximum ThinkPad quality you're out of luck because few of the old IBM models are usable as a daily driver today.

If you can't get an X220 but you want 12" either get an X200 for muh freedom or an X230 for a more modern approach.
If you're OK with 14" get a T400 for muh freedom or a T430 if you want int modern.
The T420 is OK too but both the 1366x768 and the 1600x900 screen are dog shit even by ThinkPad standards.
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>>61777625
T440P

>swapped trackpad for T450 one and then swapped back because I'm a filthy Macbook refugee and I prefer the size of the original
>hard drive caddy in drive bay, 500GB HDD
>250GB SSD in original bay
>new 9 cell to replace old 6 cell, 2h to 6h battery life doing fairly intensive workloads
>spent half an hour cleaning it
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Should I bite the bullet on this? I have room for upgrades if needed.

>recent-ish model
>strong core
>win 7 pro preinstalled

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T440p-Core-i7-4600m-2-9-GHZ-8GB-RAM-500GB-HD-1600x900-Win-7-pro-/253075517306?hash=item3aec79ef7a:g:qyMAAOSwXetZSFi3
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Just got a X220, it's currently running Debian 9, do I need tweaking to get the best experience or it just works?
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>>61777450
usually only within the same model. the sizes changes slightly between them
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>>61779179
posted too fast; not no mention the smaller touchpad in the x series..
So no, they aren't
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what is the maximum would you pay for x220 tablet with i7 and IPS screen?
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>>61779076
it should just werk
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_reduce_power_consumption
if you're interested in power management
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ATTENTION: daily reminder to all >>>/g/tpg posters:
if you encounter someone calling himself "xsauc" or "james" immediately disregard and hide his posts. "James" aka "xsauc" is a mentally ill transgender pedophile who is very unpredictable and dangerous.

Thank you for your cooperation,
~GNU/Police
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>>61777450
At least the T W X series should be
>>61779179
You mean line up? Right?
>>61779189
>touchpad
>keyboard
Please read before replying
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>>61779548
>being this fucking new
Lurk more faggot
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>>61779577
elaborate more how am I being "new" for warning people about this attention whoring tripfag cancer?
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>>61779603
forgot pic
remind yourself this picture everytime you respond to this mentally retarded pedophile.
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>>61779603
Because you're here """""""""""warning"""""""""" about something literally something everyone and their thinkpad knows about

Enjoy being so fucking new faggot
Maybe try shitposting about Intel me too
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>>61779662
Wow, why are you so mad? Does it hurt that badly after disabling tripcode?
Or is just split personality kicking in?
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>>61779662
how fucking new
it's a shitty meme
next you will tell me you never saw the 'beware of daiz' posts
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>>61779700
Personally I feel extremely uncomfortable knowing this attention whoring thing is posting here.
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“This intensely felt sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken – it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.”
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>>61779771
>>61779740
>>61779621
>>61779548
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>>61779621
DELET THIS
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Just bought a japanese keyboard for my memepad since it was cheaper than my local layout and both have the comfy big enter key anyway, am i going to become a weeb?

the spacebar and backspace are fucking tiny holy shit
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Just got a t520 with a 250gb ssd and a 1080 screen for $160, did I get a good deal?
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>>61779830
Fuck Japanese keyboards, t. living in Japan. They're so fucking shit they're meant for little chinks with baby hands. And don't even get me started on the buttons that switch from English to Japanese but are only ONE WAY. For some reason they don't understand the concept of "toggle".
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>>61780024
This is why tpg is such a shithole these days.
Actually it's possible to write a fucking script that will contaminate every single tpg with randomly generated questions
"I got XXXX with YYYY for ZZZZ. Did I do good? Am I a good boy?"

Fucking off yourself and read OPs post, you shitstain.
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>>61780156
Can i even remap those keys to something else like opening a Terminal window or something? I won't be using the Japanese input method in the OS anyway and the rest of the keys is the same as my native layout aside from the extra keys.
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>>61780208
Probably.
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>>61780156
>but are only ONE WAY
That sounds kinda nice. If you press that button, you always know which layout you switched to. You don't always know that with a toggle, without testing or visual feedback. Sometimes you press that key by accident, or you wake the computer from suspend and you don't really know which layout was last used.
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>>61780156
>are only ONE WAY
does that mean you're switching to Japanese and then it stays that way forever and you have to buy a new keyboard?
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>>61780403
No, it means you have to go to the IME on your desktop and click back into latin mode.
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I'm looking to buy a laptop for InfoSec kinda stuff, Pentesting, writing reports, running VM's, and occasional gaming(Just CS:GO mostly). Should I get a W or P series? or just stick with T?
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>>61780489
so you have to buy a new computer because that shit never works the way you want it to
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I've asked this multiple times and never gotten a response, so hopefully this pic will help

Has anyone with a nvidia gpu thinkpad (t430 for example) tried out overclocking the display through nvidias custom resolution utility? Other laptops seems to be able to hit really high hz.
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>>61780572

I have a t430 and CSGO and dota run ok. Dota is almost always 60 but CS can drop into the 40s sometimes. This is with the integrated graphics, with the nvidia dedicated I'd expect both would be solid 60 at above minimum.
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>want to replace the wifi card in my x220
>the screw keeping the card in place has been srewed in with inhuman strength
>can't get it out no matter how hard I force it
This is frustrating.
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Did I do well?
>i5 3320M
>4Gb RAM
>1600x900 screen (intel hd graphics)
>500Gb 7200rpm
>240€
In very good condition. I also have an 256Gb SSD from my old laptop that I can put into the drive bay.

Keep in mind that I needed a laptop immediately as I broke the screen on my latitude.
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>>61777682
What deal. Care to share?
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>>61779548
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>61780889
The one in the OP http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW
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Got an msata SSD for my x220. Anything special I need to do in the BIOS or after a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04 to make sure its being utilized properly and maximize its lifetime?
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>>61781010
Just use it and don't worry about it. Options like Discard and such is probably used by default anyways.
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>>61780973
Thanx!!!
>mfw t570 for 670$
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>>61781107
Okay. Its my first SSD so I wanted to make sure there wasn't anything special I had to do. I heard things about swap partitions being bad for SSDs and stuff like that
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I'm looking at used Thinkpads from a particular seller (http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/nhx_it_brokers?_trksid=p2047675.l2559) on Ebay and they have different "grades" (F1, F5, V7, C3, etc.) but it's not immediately clear to me what they signify.

All their Thinkpads:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_odkw=thinkpad+t60&_ssn=nhx_it_brokers&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xthinkpad.TRS0&_nkw=thinkpad&_sacat=0

I would expect A1 to be best and Z9 to be worst but the description for a V2 ("Complete, no software installed. Please see main item description below for full information.") seems to be better than for a C3 ("Complete, no software installed. Used, cosmetically graded - will have one or more of the following: Chip/Scratched case, Hinge play, generally grubby, 1/2 missing/worn keys, wifi switch missing. Please see main item description below for full information.").

Maybe Z is the best? But then this Z1 has a fucked screen: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X201-Core-i5-2-40Ghz-4GB-160GB-spares-repair-Cracked-screen-Z1-/352059492661?hash=item51f8618935:g:je4AAOSwR29ZGxI2

Any ideas?
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How many years can a thinkpad generally last for?
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>>61781142
SSD do wear leveling, so using it shouldn't ruin it. I've seen people recommend disabling the journal and logging too, but that stuff seems too silly. I think it is safe to just use the SSD like you would a normal HDD for the most part.
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>>61780658
yeah i think I'll go with the T series
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>>61777625
I purchased the laptop that I wanted instead of buying something else and trying to pimp it.
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>>61781195
Never, as long as there are Ali express exist.
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>>61777316
Why am I having problems installing Windows XP on a x220?
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Why haven't you librebooted your ThinkPad, /tpg/?
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>>61781608
Because I use a T60 and an X40, there is literally no need to.
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>>61777682
>no Thunderbolt 3
Enjoy your cucked machine.
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>>61778408
>T440p for $150

BOI
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>>61781608
Because I want the option of using a nonfree operating system.
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>>61781608
the x220 isn't supported yet.
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>>61781608
I'm not retarded
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Ive been fucked by two belgian ladies holyshit.
so I had this t460s listing called asked her all about it and if it were her pics. after 28 euros of traveling towards her (mnot talking about costs of going home) she had a t520 so Iwas mad and left after a small discussion went to my aunts house to get a t410 I had delivered there just to find out it had half the ram as promised and the scroll button was broken fuck this country I am done
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>>61777316
For a budget of say $500 USD what model of ThinkPad or Dell Latitude would have the best color reproduction and/or highest resolution? Looking to do Photo-work, schoolwork and some CAD in it (CAD is nothing too demanding). Thanks.
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>>61781722
>becuase I use a librebootable machine
honesty that excuse is bad just say that you dont care about it
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>>61781722
>x40
Is it useful in this day and age? The resolution is horrible.
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LENOVO IdeaPad 110 yes or no?
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>>61778408
>T440p $150
>R400 $150
kek
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>>61782121
>CAD is nothing too demanding
For a pleb perhaps. I have several projects that two 2016 Quadros slow to sub 15 FPS when moving the perspective in SolidWorks.
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>>61782252
Well considering I work for a bank contractor, the most demanding thing i'll run are floor plans for homes with materials lists, but yes CAD is a compute killer. misphrased it.
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>>61782207
yes
very good choice [email protected]
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>>61778408

yeah boi... get that t440p for $150 buckaroo. also once you go gay you can't go back... the thinkpad will only provide you with a temporary solution lulz
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>>61781608

I need to get a x200 or x200t first boi. i am in the process of hackintoshing the x220. waitin on the wifi card.
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So you can transplant the t440p/s FHD sceeen to the t430[s]. But what about the touchscreen capability?
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What's the best site to get ips replacements for a x220 from? I was looking here http://www.laptopscreen.com/i/index.php?page=products&part_number=LP125WH2(SL)(B3) but I don't know if they're good.
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>>61778408
>don't want to turn gay again

I don't think you should be buying a thinkpad...
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>>61782853
physically you might be able to, but the screen wont work since the t430 is lvds and the t440s are edp
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anyone tried one of those frankenpad? 51nb stuff. thought about it, but waiting for retro
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>HE DOESN'T
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>>61783256
>GAME
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>>61783268
>ON HIS
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>>61783281
>THINKPAD
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>>61783132

You can get edp to lvds converters. Very hard to come by, but possible.
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What's the difference between T4xx vs T5xx Thinkpads?

I read something about Extreme Edition CPUs, but I don't understand what that means...
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think I should be looking at buying a T430 over a T510 if I don't mind the chiclet type keys
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>>61783397
14" vs 15.6"
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Are there skins for these things? Wanted to pick one up instead of having to paint my case. I have a T540p if that's any help.
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I like the idea of socketed cpu's, with the t440p being the latest capable model.

But I also like compactness, and would prefer to get an s model.

In theory, shouldn't I just be able to get a new motherboard down the line should I ever want to upgrade the cpu?
Is there anything wrong with this plan?
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>>61777316
is t410 still relevant for home use?

it has 130gb ssd and i will install 8 gb ram.

price 240 usd.

thanks
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>>61783450
>Is there anything wrong with this plan?
s motherboards only come w
ith shitty dual cores iirc because of the "muh thin" meme thus less cooling
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>>61783281
>>61783288
>Gaming and drawgfaggin in thinkpad
Any good models to buy?
i5, tough, fine touchscreen is needed.
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61783397
>T4xx T5xx
Jesus Fucking Christ, stop it. If you want go by series, then go by the marketed series of 600, T, X and so on and maybe indicate post-Foxconn (production moved into, well before Lenovo deal) and post-Lenovo.
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>>61782627
>have compatible wifi card
>can't put it in because >>61780836
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Finally found my spare laptop hard drives. How much could I expect to sell my t410 for? 250gb drive, 2.66ghz i5, 4gb ram, 1440x900 screen.
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>>61783509

Rats.

Well, at least now I know. Looks like t440p it is.

Thanks for the info
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>buy replacement keyboard
>Each key has a sticker on it
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>just bought a T540p for $200
How bad did I fuck up?
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Why should I get a ThinkPad over a sweet gaming laptop? Clearly it can do way more, and it looks better too.
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>>61782252
I've worked with large assemblies and ray tracing on my t420s without the dGPU, it cost me fucking £150.
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>>61783359
Have fun finding them
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>>61783667
here is your (You)
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Anyone tried a t420s with an eGPU, it actually has an express card slot which I didn't know
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>>61783799
well a t420s is just a slimmer t420, so anyones experience with an egpu on a normal t420 should be the exact same
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>>61783837
Am I correct in thinking that I need the nVidia board for pass-through to the internal display?
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>>61782960
pls respond
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>>61783944
I'll just say aliexpress because i can't buy from anywhere else without massive import fees.
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>>61783514
In your case, you really have to choose between the X201, X220, or X230 tablet models, which cover the first three i5 generations. I can't really say how good they compare to proper drawing tablets, as I used my X200 tablet function mainly for notetaking and reading, but they are pretty responsive.
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>>61781289
im so getting that made out of that reflective vinyl.

>>61783543
put a tiny drop of red loctite on the end of the screwdriver, then use a pair of visegrips on screwdriver shaft to break that little fucker loose. just a tiny bit, and let it set for a little while.then use small little slaps to break it loose without going bonkers. like a handpowered impact wrench.
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which eGPU adapter should I get for my X220?
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>>61780641

Never ever going to get an answer

I just want to know that it works
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>>61783667
>1000 GB HDD
reeee
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>>61779548
I'll see gnu later tonight <3
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There's no /Friendly Windows Thread/, so my question goes here:

I installed W8.1 on my T420 recently. I've never used this piece of shit OS before (meaning 8.1, not Windows in general of course).

Questions:

Why the fuck do "apps" exist as well as normal software?

Every time I right click in the start menu, the laptop freezes like a cunt. What's up with that and how do I fix it? Pic. related, I'm trying to organise this "modern looking" menu piece of shit.
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Why do thinkpads rarely have SSD's?
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>>61784454
>Windows 8.1
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>>61784454
If you are going to install a botnet OS, install Windows 10. Or install Ubuntu and get ready for comfiness
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>>61784565
I literally just switched from Linux, that's the point, I haven't used Windows in a while.

How is 8.1 a botnet? I thought it was 10 and 8.1 was comfy?
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>>61784785
Why did you switch from Linux?

My stance on Windows is that every version is a botnet because of all the telemetry updates and the closed source of the OS. Might as well go for the latest one
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How much did it cost you to flash coreboot/libreboot on your thinkpad?
Was it around $120-$150 for all the hardware needed?
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>>61784951

rasp pi is like what, 30? test clip is 15 on amazon, probably cheaper elsewhere.

Thats all you need
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Anyone have a 5th gen X1? How is it? I'm debating on whether to wait for the retro for my portability needs assuming it's 14" or get the X1. If I don't get the X1, I'll likely get a P51 now and deal with the size.
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>>61784972
>rasp pi is like what, 30? test clip is 15 on amazon, probably cheaper elsewhere.

have you flashed core/libreboot yourself?
Of the top of my head libreboot's directions says bbb rev3, pomona clip, 3v external psu (breadboard maybe?), 5v psu, wires, scientific/or atx psu, etc.
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>>61784101
exp gdc beast v8 for $50. people have had stability problems with older versions of the adapter with other laptops but my v8 has been fine on 2 x220s, a t420, and a 2570p

other option is the bplus pe4c v3.0, but that fucker is like $130
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>>61777316
mfw that ancient keyboard is nicer than the keyboard today.
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>>61784824
It'll be my main laptop for a while and using Cuckbuntu-MATE would have been a trek:

>SAS
>Excel
>OneNote
>iTunes (transferring pirated music on iOS is a hussle, let's say I want to quickly download a movie for a flight. On Android I used to torrent from 4g while on the flight. Now I have to boot a laptop and a virtual machine just to add it, because fucking Apple)

A while ago I used a fancy laptop without DVD rom and only USB 3.0, so I couldn't install W7 because of the lack of drivers, so i bought a 8.1 key from Ebay for £5. At the time I specifically did /g/-tier research and came to the conclusion that 10 is botnet but 8.1 is okay. Thought the MSDN/volume product key shit will get nuked by now, but it worked.

Anyway, anyone got a similar issue?
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What screen should I be looking at to upgrade a T440p to FHD? I'm looking at lenovo's official parts guide for the model and I have no idea which one to pick.
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>>61777316
I'm pulling the trigger on a T440s
> i5 4200U
> 8GB of RAM
> 128GB SSD
will it be a decent laptop? I don't care about the trackpad.
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I took apart my T420 and my trackpad and the left and right click buttons no longer work. However, the upper UltraNav keys still work.

I might have just not plugged the connection cable in right, but why would the UltraNav keys still work? I'm worried that I damaged it somehow when I was cleaning it.
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are there any thinkpads thst just stay cool
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>>61786445
I believe there is a separate cable for the trackpad and left/right click buttons. It probably just came out while you were taking it apart.
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>>61783854
yes I believe so
although with express cards limited bandwith you do not want to pass it through to the internal screen.
plus the screen on the t420s are dogshit, no reason to taint a perfectly good egpu setup with the worst colors possible
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>>61786465
That's weird, I only remember disconnecting one cable. Guess I have to just stop being lazy and disassemble it again. Thank you for your response anon.
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So if I upgrade the minipcie wifi of my x201 to intel 5ghz wifi card does the bios settings for disabling bt still work?
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>>61786532
yeah it's a pretty narrow ribbon cable close to the underside of the touchpad...not sure where it is exactly on the T420 but that's where it is on my T430 and I'd assume it'd be similar.
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The iGPU heatsink for my T520 has a pulsing sound from the fan (every few seconds the fan has a burst of higher RPM basically) and the brand new dGPU heatsink I ordered as a replacement has an incredibly disconcerting clicking or arcing sound when you hold the laptop closer to vertical (it almost sounds like the fan blades are rubbing against the copper fins, but it's too light and sporadic to be something that violently mechanically awry).

I may just try transplanting the dGPU fan into the iGPU heatsink. Why do I have the worst luck with thinkpads bros?
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>>61786310

I don't get why people don't answer these kind of posts


are you shilling or not? make up your mind
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Who here /waiting/ for Raven Ridge?

I just bought a used T430 to hold me over until A475 comes out.

>mfw plebs jumping on the 'deals'
>mfw plebs don't realise Lenovo is just trying to get rid of old stock because they know RR laptops will sell like hotcakes
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>>61778408
>live in Hawaii
>HELP WHY ARE THINGS EXPENSIVE
Really, nigger?
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>>61786975
My last non-company-issue Thinkpad was a little x120e. If the A275 pans out the way I hope, I'll probably ditch my 13" rMBP AND my tablet.
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>>61786975
>tfw a series are just left over bristol junk
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>>61787112
Wrong.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Confirmed-Lenovo-s-AMD-ThinkPads-A275-and-A475-are-based-on-the-X270-and-T470.240156.0.html
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>>61782173
It's practically retina on a 12" screen.
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Any tips on how to clean/fix a T420 keyboard? The arrow keys stick and make an obnoxious clicking noise when depressed.
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>>61787227
1. remove keys
2. use pressurised air to clean dirt and dust
3. put back keys
4. ...
5. PROFIT!!!
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>>61787219
It's even worse than 1366x768, anon.
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>>61787137
>doesn't mention raven ridge anywhere in the article

welp, bristol ridge confirmed

RIP a-series
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>>61783667
>buying new
tard
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>>61786459
I use tlp to control the speed of my X40, capped at 800 MHz it never has to turn on its fan on battery.
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>>61787267
It's practically retina on a 12" screen.
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>>61787296
Why would they use year-old APUs?
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>>61787394
CPU anon.

CPU.
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>>61787398
Bristol ridge is for desktops, raven ridge is for laptops. A275 and A475 will be RR, no doubt about it.
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>>61786310
bump
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Does /tpg/ stream gaymes to their memepads?
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How are the newer ThinkPads? I'm considering getting one with a non-shit resolution.
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>>61777316
>tfw no new x1 carbon to finally slay the mbp
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>>61786310
how much is a good price for a t440s?
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>>61787946
I paid $460 for this: >>61786310
bought it a few hours ago, maybe I got scammed idk, hopefully not, the vendor had a pretty good reputation.
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What is the /g/ approved thinkcentre?
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>>61788045
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fully-Loaded-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T440S-i7-4600U-2-7G-8GB-256GB-SSD-14-BT-FPR-Win8-1/112482126950?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

paid $390 for this.
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>>61777316
looking for a super tiny laptop (10 inches or less). Seems the smallest thinkpads are the x series. Any good small netbook-like machines that are as durable as thinkpads?
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Any experience with the FHD x220 mod?
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>>61787668
lol i put a macos sierra install on the msata in my x220 for the ps4 streaming app because it was less of a hassle than getting win 10
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>>61785730
I'm sorry you have to use all those cuckware. I'm glad my uni and work isn't some Microsoft shill factory
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>>61788143
Looks like a great deal anon, I paid $460 on a inferior one because I live in a third world country, so naturally everything is more expensive, still worth it though.

$390 for a 256GB SSD + Haswell i7 is an amazing purchase anon, hopefully it's on a good state.
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>>61788876
yeah, only thing i found wrong with it is that the area between the power jack and usb port is cracked, but i can deal with that as long as both work.
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what are some sick mods I can do to my t420. also sticker recomendation?
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>>61789938
Alienware HD screen replacement, paint it a color of your choice, upgrade processor, upgrade RAM to 16gb, 1 tb ssd, etc.
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Is there anything I can do about my x220 Tablet's screen? The 1336x786 resolution is almost unbearable
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I fixed up my old x230t. all it needed was a new motherboard (bought one labeled as an i5 but got an i7 model instead). I have a latitude with a 1080p display which will now sit on my desk since it is bigger and heavier than this.

Feels gud to have a comfy portable machine again. Gonna use this to carry around in my backpack at uni
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>>61790191
not sure. The tablet screens have the wacom digitizer part so I think you are stuck with the 1366x768 screen. It's not that bad on a 12.5 inch screen and the wacom digitizer is worth it imo esp if you do a lot of work dealing with numbers (great scratchpad for homework) or for quick paintings/drawings
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installing mac osx on my x220 so far so good.
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>>61791568
best of luck bro. I'll be doing that thursday when mine comes in.
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>>61791596

Thanks anon... that was this evening... it's been 100% successfully. It's pretty nice. I am liking it.
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I love my memepad!
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do you friends know of any place i can purchase the sideways i, x, d keys with the little cutout for trackpoint for changing t430s to dvorak?
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I got my t420 keyboard to work with my t430.
Am I cool yet?
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>>61778163
W-Which model do you have, comfyanon?
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My sister Lenovo G405 died so im getting a T400.
Anything i should add to it? it will be a facebook machine pretty much.
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>>61777625
why not just turn it off????
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>>61781608
go away luke,
love your videos btw
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>>61783256
I played games for a decade with a fucking Trackpoint. After discovering Thinkpads again, I wonder how I ever did it.
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>>61793044
i picked up a t61, anon!
im in aus and there wasn't much to choose from, everything else was out of my price range.
but so far I'm really happy with it! I can watch stuff online and have multiple tabs of threads open which is what I wanted it for c:
>>
Question, T400 uses 7mm or 9mm HDDs?
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>>61793388
Have you upgraded the P8400/P8600 for a T9600?
Its only $10.
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The front and back portions of the screen on my T420 are open slightly, close to the lefthand bezel. I can't seem to snap the pieces together into their proper place.

Just noticed it today, so I assume it isn't a big deal. Still irritating, hope that the insides aren't getting clogged with dust.
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>>61793423
nope i haven't done any upgrades yet. I can't afford it at the moment. I need to get a screwdriver set and stuff. I'll do that in the near future, ty tho anon
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>>61793485
Not him but get an extreme x9100 c2d for $7 and OC that slut to 3.5GHz

go big or go home
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>>61793099
8GB RAM and an SSD would be advisable for best performance. And of course, be sure to clean it out thoroughly and replace the thermal paste. You should also advise her on how to monitor CPU temperatures, those things can overheat fairly easily.
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>>61793523
wait nevermind, thought it was a t400 not a t61
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>>61793538
Her last laptop died exactly out overheating, fuck BGA, who thought this was a good idea specially with an AMD CPU.
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>>61793523
i alreadhy have a powerful desktop pc...

i just want a reliable and enjoyable laptop

eventually im going to use a particular bios system and install an ssd and some more ram, i think that should do it for my t61
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>>61793613
it'll be more comfy with a better processor though

and c2duos are dirt cheap
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>>61793613
P8600 has problems with 1080p videos IIRC, also a 20-25% perfomance upgrade for $5-10 is not bad at all.
Still you would need to buy paste so add another $5.
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T430 arriving tomorrow or the day after. I'm excited bros, my first thinkpad.
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>>61793668
>>61793684
honestly i'm still a massive luddite in so many ways compared to anons here - i used to tinker with computers as a kid but haven't done it in years - I'd like to get some performance upgrades that are cheap, like you anons have suggested - I just wanna take it slow at first as I don't wanna break anything haha.

Also it will probably take me a lil while to find the right parts at the right prices - postage and such can be way too much for me but in time I think I'll be able to nab some deals.

Thanks for your help btw anons
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>>61793764
Aliexpress has free worldwide shipping and ebay too most of the time. Also upgrading a thinkpad is easy as fug, you even have the hardware maintenance manual for each model to avoid fucking things up.

>>61793752
Upgrade the keyboard like this anon >>61792434
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Should I get a 500 gb 7200 rpm HDD in a P51s and then upgrade myself to an NVMe SSD? Really don't want to spend 340 fucking dollars on a 512 gb SSD. That's like half the cost of the entire laptop for me.

Also
>$30 price difference between 256 and 512 gb SSDs

What the fuck is wrong with Lenovo's hard drive pricing? That's not the case for the P51 or T470.
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>>61793981
Yes.
A 960 EVO 250GB is $120 and a 500GB is $230.
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>>61794014
Only problem I suspect is that Lenovo won't send the NVMe adapter if I go for the 500 gb SATA drive.

Also, weird that the P51s is priced lower with better options than a T570 or T470p.
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>>61793845
>upgrade the keyboard
This is just a temporary laptop until raven ridge thinkpads come out, or the retro. Whichever comes first and/or is better.

Imagine if retro ended up having raven ridge. *hnng*
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>>61794238
It's priced lower because it's cheaper to put high spec'd components in a large chassis. The smaller the laptop, the more expensive it is.

Also, can anyone confirm that the P series have the same build quality as the T and X series?
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>>61794284
P series is the continuation of the top of the line W series, so if anything it's even better.
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So i got an old dell latitude for free because windows was corrupted. I slapped lubuntu on and it works like a charm. What do i do with it now?
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>>61794375
high specs != durability
If a laptop is designed to be a mobile workstation, i.e. a desk laptop, it doesn't need to be resilient to bumps, hits and scratches because it's not meant to be carried around as often as the X and T series.
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>>61794598
Try not to let the shit screen frustrate you.
>>
Are thinkpads generally durable laptops? Are certain models more durable than others? My laptop just broke and I'm looking for a sturdy, decently specced alternative
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>>61795206
Yes. Yes.
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>>61780641
I've seen someone once do that on a W520 or W530 but not on a T430
You just have select dgpu only or something similar to that so you system bypasses Optimus and directly uses your dgpu

To expand a bit more (just in case you don't know or to help some other anon)
How Optimus works is by writing into your igpus framebuffer which is only limited to 60 hz
There is an option to disable this and just use the framebuffer of your dgpu which doesn't have the same limitations but I forgot what it was called
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>>61781289
Fuck I should check patchdynamics
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>>61781732
>dual core cpu
Enjoy your cucked machine.
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>>61783005
(you)
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>>61795309
Shave your legs, dude.
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>>61783256
>he
>>61783268
>thinks
>>61783281
>I don't

Anon trackpoints are literally built in joysticks
Of course I fucking game with it
>also muh egpu
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>>61795289
Enjoy your portable stove.
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>>61795325
Not me
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>>61795348
>he thinks it's still 2006
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>>61795348
Here's another (you)
>>
I wish I knew more about laptops 3 years ago when I bought my Dell Inspiron 3542
>(((i7)))
>shitty 840M
>4GB RAM
>literal worst screen I've ever laid my eyes upon
>touchpad the size of a lego block
>NO FUCKING INDICATOR LIGHTS
>15.6" - too big to carry around comfortably, too small to keep at home as a workstation

Every day I regret not buying a thinkpad back then. A few days ago I visited a friend who had a newer thinkpad that was thin as shit and the display was just so great and I could tell there was an SSD in there.

>tfw you fell for the non-Thinkpad laptop meme

just cuck my life into pieces
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>>61795400
>>61795408
Nice, I stand corrected. I was looking to buy the p as well, but lack of Tbolt3 was a deal-breaker. I want to future-proof it since I buy a new laptop every 5-6 years or so.
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>>61795482
Gpus don't age that fast.
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>>61791568
Still no SD reader compatible?
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>>61795464
it's never too late anon!
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>>61795510
940MX is shit though. An i5-7300U with an eGPU would be able to run more games on higher settings than an i5-7300HQ with 940MX.
>>
Latitude e6320. What do I need to download to fix the screen?
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>>61795808
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>>61795808
Try turning it off and on again
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>>61795808
kys
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>>61777481
>poured a basket of water
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What are some good games that thinkpads can generally handle? Aside from these.
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>>61795325
how gay are you
>>
>>61797162
Depends on the thinkpad, obviously.
>>
>>61797162
Stream games from desktop to thinkpad.
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>>61797332
In my case I'm getting a T440p, if that helps.
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>>61797346
iGPU or dGPU?
>>
>>61791568
Neat. I still have to make the dang installer for mine.
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>>61797363
Not sure. Let's just say the weaker one
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>>61797616
Then it's not good for any game.
The iGPU in that generation of intlel CPUs produces a shitload of graphical glitches.
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>>61797633
Damn, that sucks. Any way I can give it a dedicated GPU?
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>>61797633
isnt that broadwell
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>>61797854
new mobo
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>HELP
I'm getting a laptop for networking.
HOW much should I spend, percent wise, on each component?
>>
Got a refurbished t420 a week ago, yesterday the screen went to sleep, wakes up after half a minute or so, and the keyboard doesn't work. Touchpad and power button does. What the fucm
>>
I'm planning on buying an X200 + ultrabase tonight for a good deal off of craigslist.


Can I purchase a WXGA LCD HV121WX6-110 (used for x201's and others) and install it on the X200 and get it to work under GNU/Linux?

I want an X200 without the screen resolution of 1200x800, that is painful
>>
>>61795635
Now I don't have the money to buy a new laptop and I can't sell the old one :'(
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>>61798042
50-200 USD on a T420 or X220.
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>>61798042
>HOW much should I spend, percent wise, on each component?
Kill you are self.
>>
>>61798303
Is this a good idea, like for networking?
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>>61777316
I'm thinking about updating my dell latitude e6420 to a thinkpad

current machine cost me £400 6 years ago. use it everyday for business

i5 2540M @ 2.60Ghz
8GB Ram
256GB SSD

are they easy to downgrade to windows 7?

which one do you recommend lads?
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>>61798348
I hope pic isnt related
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Is there any compatible express54 lte modem?
>>
how am I supposed to remove the whitelist from my x220 bios when all the modified bios programs are for windows?
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Which thinkpad is cutest thinkpad? :3
>>
What's the highest resolution screen a T430 can have?
>>
>>61798348
Overkill.
>>
>>61799375
X130e
>>
>>61794240
That is exactly what I hope for. A retro think with on board Vega graphics... Jesus Christ my dick would explode. Hoping for that or full voltage i5 with a 10 series nvidia card
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Is a t430 worth $180?
>>
just got myself a decent T410 i5 for 180 euros and there is more where that came from. Should I start a Thinkbizz?
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I want to add 16GB of ram to my t470p. What are the best ram kits I can add to it?

Pic related
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>>61800319
Yes.

>>61800984
Not that good of a deal since I got a T430 for 240€ (including shipping).
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>>61777316
I got my Thinkpad T420 today. This is the first Thinkpad I have ever owned and I must say I am already impressed with the keyboard. I used to shitpost in these threads because I just couldn't believe there were any good laptops for typing and whatnot. Not only is typing comfortable but the laptop just seems well designed. This is a huge step up from my Acer Aspire 7741Z-4643.
>>
>>61800319
I think that might be a little much but then again I had gotten a really good deal on a T420 for under $90.
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>>61799328
I'm going to attempt making a windows live cd
>>
Hey lads, never owned a Thinkpad but I've been lurking and I think I want to take the plunge

Budget: $240 max

Location: PA, USA

Size: 14 or 15.6, either or

Performance: I'd like for it to be quick and responsive. I download alot of movies and TV and such, so I'd like to be able to watch them at full resolution with no hiccups. Maybe some light gaming or emulating

Other requirements: I'm not too tech savvy. I'd just like for it to do everything reliably

Thanks in advance
>>
>someone is selling an x220 with the *30 keyboard
what the fug
>>
Y/N
https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/sys/d/lenovo-thinkpad-t430/6245530697.html
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>>61802122
>not tech savvy
Then why bother?
>>
>>61795267

Thank you, I figured graphics switching would have to be disabled for it to work.

I'm going to buy anvidia mobo for gaymen on the go but would like to run at a higher hz for general smoothness and no tearing with 24fps movies.
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>>61797346

t430 here

csgo, dota and war thunder run fine on integrated, usually at 60 but sometimes lower. This is with low quality in all of those.
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>>61802122
>15.6"
T520 + FHD screen or W520

>14"
T440p + FHD screen
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>>61802204
It's never too late to learn. And it seems like it would be the best bang for my buck. I also do a lot of writing so the keyboard would be nice

>>61802303
I'll check them out, thanks
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>>61802303
Not that anon but are there any specific FHD screen models you'd recommend?
>>
I've an X61 with slow-ish wifi connection, and it can't pick up 5G connections

I have an X201, X220 and T60p that all can pick up 5G connection

Are they all the same mSATA looking wifi card? Is the 'X61 wifi upgrade' just giving it a better wifi card, and will any of these suffice?
>>
Are there any newer twisty-turny laptops than the x230t? I like them.
>>
>>61795588
Non issue for me as I rarely uses the SD cards
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>>61799608
pls respond
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>>61803091
1600x900
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>>61798421
Best body I seen on a asian... Look at those hips!!
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>>61799608
1600x900
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>>61803058
x62t
>>
>>61803111
>>61803188
Thanks, anons. At least it's better than my last laptop.
>>
Wat do when you have a hard drive that's just a few mm to big for the hard drive slot in your x220?
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>>61803914
Shave some plastic out of the slot.
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>>61803914
take off the stickers and slide it in
>>61802749
msata and mpcie are two different things
and literally any wifi card with the longer dong expanded
just make sure to de whitelist the bios first
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>>61803971
I took out the T60p WLAN card, it has 2 holes at the top for 2 cables, but the X61 has 3 holes for 3 cables (a grey, white, and black one), and also the screw that holds it in place is completely stripped, no luck opening it.
If I do manage to unscrew it, do I just use 2 of the 3 cables in the current wlan card then?
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>>61777316
How do I access the bios on a T420?
>>
>>61804267
left right up up A A B start
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>>61804284
I already hate you.
>>
I opened my T420 to clean the keyboard, after putting it back together and pressing the on button the only thing it does is blink. How to fix?
>>
>>61779558
The touchpad is bigger or smaller, and thus the keyboard can be slightly bigger or smaller. Don't be condescending.
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>>61804451
They're two very different parts. Don't answer to questions you don't understand. The touchpad has nothing to do with anything when the question is about the keyboard.
>>
>>61801186
Pls respond
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>>61804671
Cheapest RAM you can find. I've gone through dozens of RAM sticks both desktop and laptop and never had problems with any of them.
>>
>>61804691
What brands did you use or recommend?
>>
>>61804742
THE CHEAPEST
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>>61777663

model?
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>>61779771
fagg
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>>61805042
>>61805042
x220, says in the PS1 of the shell in his terminal emulator.
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>>61804505
The touchpad is attached to the keyboard you mong
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>>61805407
>T430 T430S X230 W530 T530
The keyboard is its own module, and the touchpad is a part of the wrist rest.
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Is a Latitude E6320 with a 2520m and 4gb ram worth $180?
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>>61783543
>>61780836
Mine had a completely stripped screw before I ever touched it.
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>>61805615
That's the laptop I have: >>61795808
I paid 35€ for mine from a company that was getting rid of their old laptops. They were nice enough to put a new SSD in it for me, probably worth more than the 35€ I paid.

The screen is broken because I closed the lid with an earbud on the keyboard, totally my fault and honestly I'm surprise it lasted this long because I didn't really take care of it.

What I like about it:
>keyboard (comfortable with nice travel)
>durable (dropped it many times)
>trackpoint

What I hate about it:
>screen (1366x768, dim)
>only one USB port

Other considerations: the hinges are decent, but still not completely stiff, the screen can be moved back and forth a bit. Feels and looks plastic, not 'premium'. Maximum memory it can hold is 8Gb. No USB3.0.

For $180 I'd say look for a T430 as it has a higher screen resolution, better processor and can hold more memory, as well as more than one USB port (and USB3.0). Having used the e6320 for over 9 months I wouldn't pay more than $50 for it. It simply doesn't age well. In fact, I wouldn't buy one at all and my smashing the screen accidentally was a lucky break and a chance to finally buy a T430.

tl;dr no
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Anyone have experience with the FHD mod for x220? How is it working out for you? Should I try it out?
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>>61805867
Oh yeah, and the touchpad is shit, too.
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I could get an old x220 or t400 from work, which one should I pick up?
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>>61805867
Thanks.
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>>61805934
x220
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>>61783667
because its not a thinkpad
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>>61778109
who is gril? want to bang gril.
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>>61806621
the thinkgril
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Should I buy a genuine battery for my t420 or are the alternative ones just as good?
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found an X200t for 65€, should I bite? It's in a really nice condition too. I already have a T430 and this could be a nice addition after installing 8GB of RAM, so I could also take notes and draw a little bit. the only thing holding me back is my autism that bothers me with the CPU clock speed (L9400 is 1.86ghz on both cores), can I get it to 2ghz somehow or is it impossible? And how hard is it to libreboot it? I want a completely free machine alongside my T430. I have soldering experience.
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>>61806692
genuine is always better, generic ones suck most of the time, because:
-they usually dont last as long
-they lose charge easier (as in they cant hold as much as when you first install it)
-they usually dont have the promised capacity
>>61805934
x220 is a lot better, T400 is really outdated and the only xx00 series that's still worth getting is x200 because comfyness without a trackpad and only trackpoint and 16:10 1280x800 screen
>>61805890
look at rossmanns video and the followup one by his client, seems nice but because it uses one of the docks DP connections it will basically power two screens at the same time which will decrease performance obviously, I dont know if there is a fix for this under linux
>>61804324
remove again and check whether or not you made some mistake while installing
>>61803914
either give up or by force, cant really guarantee that nothing breaks though
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>>61806692
also check OP's links, in one of the guides he explains why generic sucks. you could either get an expensive one that'll last you a long time or a cheap one that'll lose charge a lot easier
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>>61806692
I bought a fake one because i literally can't buy an original, it just werks.

If i had the option though i'd go original.
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>>61806822
the only thing is that the official libreboot site says that not all x200t's are supported so it bothers me quite a bit. still, 65€ is pretty much a steal
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