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>What are some cool programs?
>What are some cool terminal commands?
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When will you be done with your silly hate thing?
thanks. this is what I get when I open vi. can you blame anyone for getting confused?
How do I cope with the existence of systemd /fglt/?
I've gone through all the other stages of grief already (denial, anger, bargaining, and depression) but my autism just won't let me move on to acceptance.
How do you do it?
> Linux is about choice.
If I could only have one thing this year, it would be to eliminate that
meme from the collective consciousness. It is a disease. It strangles
the mind and ensures you can never change anything ever because someone
somewhere has OCD'd their environment exactly how they like it and how
dare you change it on them you're so mean and next time I have friends
over for Buffy night you're not invited mom he's sitting on my side
As a consumer, yes, you have lots of choices in which Linux you use.
This does not mean Linux is in any sense _about_ choice, any more than
because there are so many kinds of cars you can buy that cars are about
The complaints up-thread about juju and pulse are entirely valid, but
the solution is not to try to deliver two things at once. If you try to
deliver both at once you have to also deliver a way of switching between
the two. Now you have three moving parts instead of one, which means
the failure rate has gone up by a factor of _six_ (three parts, and
three interactions). We have essentially already posited that we have
insufficient developer effort to have 100%-complete features at ship
time, so asking them to take on six times the failure rate when they're
already overburdened is just madness. Alternatively, we could say that
we're integrating features too rapidly, but you do that at the expense
of goal 1, to be the showcase for the latest and greatest in free
I just dream about installing Void or Gentoo some day and pretend I'm not running software developed by Satan himself. But I never get to installing another distro, because Fedora is too comfy to leave. Any advice on how to make yourself switch? Surely some distro-hopper can share the secret?
It's not just a touchy feely philosophy anon.
The idea behind it is actually a rock solid concept to improve development. Look at this shit, pic related.
Pulseaudio (and also systemd, this type of software development seems to be Poetterings calling card) is nothing more than sweeping everything under the rug.
There is nothing elegant about these solutions, and in fact sweeping it under the rug just prevents real solutions from ever being able to come into the light.
GIVE ME A GOOD IDE TO WORK ON NIGGERS
I WANT TO MAKE SHIT COMPILE AND SPIT OUT FROM A FUCKING CONSOLE IN THE SAME WINDOW.
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I have coreutils, grub, bash, findutils, screen, finger, grep....
I want as much GNU on my computer as I can get.
The fucking freedom is so fucking intense!!!
It's chock full of GNU.
Well it's all fine and good to create an option that ties things together like that.
But I really think the reason people hate the software he produces is because the way it's done it results in us basically _depending_ on it.
It's like having a big mess lying on your floor and it's no one persons fault. But instead of working together to clean it up or just letting individuals pick up the pieces they need and use them, or creating his software that sort of organizes everything on the floor a little bit but is still completely optional
he just goes ahead and does it all for us, wraps everything up into this big ol' shitball and anyone who needs individual pieces now has to plug into this giant ball of shit and that's just how we're going to be doing things for the next 20yrs because he gets so much support for some reason.
Someone should make it. I got a lot of problems with you people, and on /malt/ you're gonna hear about it
Been trying to remove plasma-desktop and now i get this when i try to boot.
Tried systemctl default and systemctl reboot, problem persists.
Depends on the distro (lubuntu is compatible with xubuntu and such)
Did your mother have any children that were NOT born retarded?
Linux is about choice.
Get used to it, asshole.
Because he tackles a lot of fiddly things nobody else wants to be arsed with. There's nothing stopping anyone from making a pulse clone, but the niche is toy audio by definition. Jack exists for real work.
Systemd, same difference. Nobody really NEEDS it except for enterprise, but all the other whore distros smelled where the money was going. I'm still disappointed in Debian.
I just upgraded to Devuan Ascii and my font rendering got a massive boost. I no longer have a single reason to complain about anything non-ubuntu. Very very nice
Upgrading to "ascii" doesn't work. Tried it myself.
On January 18th, 2011, a 1337 h4x0r posted the administrator details to the database of a school in Rhode Island. Many lulz resulted from this, with school lunch prices set to 9000, 1 credit needed to graduate, all black kids expelled for stabbing, and a "special alert" sent to all parents containing the Stallman GNU/Linux copypasta, among many other edits. Basically, the entire database was anally raped. The thread resulted in half of /g/ being banned and once again proved that /g/ is the best board on 4chan.
I did it.
I finally did it, GNU-senpai. After being indecisive for 6 years, I finally confessed my love to my childhood distribution of Linux that my father introduced me to so many years ago, but to which I hadn't been able mustering the courage to admit my true feelings, because things seemed comfortable the way they were: me observing Linux from afar, always dreaming of what could be if it were me with Linux, but never committing, because the prospect of a new relationship with Linux seemed uncertain and I didn't want to lose this image of the cool, perfectly efficient, capable, trustworthy, dependable and nice operating system I treasured in my heart since I was young.
But now I've done it, by installing a Linux distribution and formatting my Windows installation.
This new interface feeling is scary, dealing with the command line is something entirely new to me, but the more I spend my daily life in this way, I feel certain that Linux will continue to make me happy.
Wait, that was the wrong image.
is there anywhere i can get a tux keycap to replace the windows one? preferably a clear/rbg compatible one
>Ubuntu with Gnome
>want to disable touchpad
>go to settings
>go to "Mouse & Touchpad"
>has no touchpad sethtings
>there are no touchpad settings anywhere
You would have to make a lot of assumptions based on just an image. And even then your answer would vary depending what you infer from the image. Does it have 4 side or 3 sides? How many dimensions? Is the inside hollow or filled? ad infinitum.
this guy comes up to your gf and slaps her ass
what do you do?
Cool, I found that you can easily turn it off with the console:
What did they mean by this?
nope, there's still a fair bit of libreoffice left. I managed to purge libreoffice-writer, libreoffice-calc and libreoffice-math, but this 'libreoffice' is seemingly impervious.
the task manager says the process is called 'LibreOffice 5.3' so I tried purging package name 'libreoffice-5.3' and 'LibreOffice-5.3' but they both return no such package.
Can any non qt fags show me the dependency required for deepin movie. And also can you please post a screenshot of deepin movie after you installed it? I need this for a research
torrent running in transmission or qbittorrent (happens in both
close client, wait at least 30 seconds so it has time to write resume data
open torrent client, waiting a minute or so so that secondary hdd has time to well and truly mount
client says error: missing files, have to force recheck to get it to see the data
never had such a problem on windows.
>tfw /flt/ is busy breaking their systems
>tfw beginners ask how to replace coreutils with busybox
Jesus, when will this madness end.
Why don't you learn perl, /fglt/? It makes fun to write little programs or golf code nobody can read and it's badass on the commandline, a drop in awk-grep-sed, fast and available everywhere.
You fooled me into installing this OShit without its endless stream of bullshit and now it's too late.
I formated everything and got myself a usb stick with Ubuntu because how fucking hard could it be? I've spend more than 10 hours trying to get it work and I'm so tired but I'm too angry to sleep! It doesn't even work properly because the fucking devs, AMD and jesus decided that they hate me. Currently I'm running on some opensource graphic drivers which suck and it took me way too many hours to find out WHY SHIT ISN'T WORKING. I've once in an act of frustration rebooted the system 4 in a row and 4 times there were FOUR(4) DIFFERENT RESULTS. Once it crahes, then it spews dozens of error messages but works and sometimes it just stop for no reason. I don't even have a reaction image to show my anger BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS FORMATTED!
I can't even switch back to Windows because I've invested too much time into this shit. Now I'm stuck forever making stupid bash scripts I never needed and can't even play games anymore
The pain you feel is just the birth of a man starting to understand how2computer.
How do I go about running a second video card through a vm?
Either ubuntu or fedora. I have guides but nothing explains when to install the cards. Do I install the operating system with both cards already in the machine? Install the second card after? The instructions say blacklist the card but those commands seem to depend on the card already being installed.
Have a fury x and titan pascal first version. Want to be able to use the fury on the operating system for my monitors and have the titan used by multiple vms. One for machine learning and one for games.
I think the fury x should be supported out of the box but I might need to add drivers. I have had trouble installing Ubuntu in the past when the open source driver doesn't like the video card. Would compiling the kernel myself allow me to configure the drivers before install?
apt-get and apt at one time each had there package list history, so you should have used either one or the other, but now they use the same and can be used interchangeably.
But if you run apt --help and apt-get --help, you'll see that only apt-get has super cow powers.
Cow power is only required for patching the code and building .debs from the source repository.
a metapackage is basically a list of packages.
if you want the libreoffice suite you can apt install libreoffice.
If libreoffice is included in your distro by default, there is prolly is no metapackage installed.
Try apt show libreoffice or apt-cache show libreoffice.
dpkg -L <some package you actually DO have installed>
>Tired of Mint and it's frankendebian ways
>Decide to try out Lubuntu
>Can't leave the LAN unless I both disable IPv6 and manually configure a DNS server
What the hell? I thought Ubuntu was meant for people who wouldn't even know what a DNS is in the first place. Is this an LXDE issue?
Serious question, neckbeards.
While listening to music some songs plays louder than others, is there a way to adjust sound automaticaly to play all songs on similar level?
I'm using cmus (because it's comfy with my i3wm)
Systemd 234 seems to be ignoring the options noauto,x-systemd.automount. It waits for the device but it isnt setup up(manual crypto).It sits there for over a minute holding up the shell login.Am i missing something?
My new ryzen machine regularly freezes up (black screen, still powered on) when encoding videos or compiling using multiple cores. Anything I can do about that?
Might it be RAM related or is it possibly the same problem as the one concerning compilation that's being talked about?
Anything I can do about that?
Drop this into your ~/.bashrc.# If set, a command name that is the name of a directory is executed as
# if it were the argument to the cd command. This option is only used by
# interactive shells.
shopt -s autocd
I'm a fucking casual normie.
I had enough of Windows' shit and decided to switch over. Installed Manjaro KDE edition and have been mostly smooth sailing since.
I know a little bit about the history of FOSS, GNU and Linux, and the interjection copypasta - but not quite enough to give a shit.
Which thread should I reside in if I just wanna talk about general linux shit, without getting embroiled in the autism? I honestly don't understand the distinction and the little pissy feud, and definitely don't care.
Wrong. Nobody is calling anyone out for saying Linux, especially not beginners. All you may get is a interjection completed with a fine rare stallman.
Compared to the other thread, we're actually friendly.
>/flt/ has been here over 2 years.
It's right here, July 2015, first documented /flt/
Stallmanists usurped the thread for their own religious communist ideologys
Now that's been settled, you can go back to re dit or /pol/ or whatever turd you crawled out from
I would just like to interject for one moment. The operating system you are suggesting for me to install, and rather commandingly might I add, will in fact, not directly solve my current problem at hand, and will actually cause me to ask further questions about the difficult process involved in installing it. Gentoo is a very nice operating system itself, but I'd rather you directly assist me in my quest to solve my current predicament.
I understand that many computer users run the Gentoo Linux operating system, and I realize they may enjoy it greatly and are not currently experiencing the current problem that I have whilst using my non-Gentoo operating system. Through a peculiar turn of events, I have noticed an enormous amount of users make the "Install Gentoo" suggestion, but many of its users are not aware that this suggestion, in most cases, is actually not an "easy-fix" to every single computer-related error.
There really are reasons for installing Gentoo, and there are people using it, but it is just for the few users who choose to compile their own source code locally according to their chosen configuration. Gentoo is just another operating system: the problems I am experiencing will not undeviatingly be solved if I make the choice to install it. All these so-called "Install Gentoo" suggestions I am noticing should cease immediately.
Try this:wget -qO- https://httpbin.org/get | sed -n '/"User-Agent"/s/^.*"\(.*\)".*/\1/p'
Downside is, it only works when the output is formatted like in my example, it doesn't work with minified json.
I'm having a really hard time switching over. For the past two weeks, I've been doing nothing but fixing bugs and incompatibilities. I dread ever having to set up Ubuntu again, let alone do all of these fixes for distributions with less help.
Currently I'm fighting with:
no sound only on Chromium over HDMI
what are some cool vim plugins to check out?
/flt/ thread is full of pointless hate.
literally nothing constructive, also i have bookmark that points to g/fglt/ and its really silly that you trying to brake name convention.
will ~~(((Installing Gentoo)))~~ make my rasberry Pi less gay? (pic rel)
How to make firefox use QT file dialog? is it even possible?
Now that the dust is settling, it's working out pretty good. Serious /fglt/ seems to have gone to /sqt/, the light discussion and shits and giggles are still here, and most of the full potato retards have gone to /flt/.
Any solution to the Popping/Clicking sound from an external DAC (Fiio E10k) ? I have tried everything on Arch's Wiki about PulseAudio and ALSA but no success. It starts whenever a sound is played/stopped it is more noticeable in apps such as Discord/Mumble/TS3 when people is talking with shitty microphones because their voices are interrupted frequently making the popping annoying as fuck it. Windows never stops the sound module when using those programs or anything related on playing sounds, so is unnoticeable till you actually mute the software. I wish linux audio worked as windows to not have to deal with that kind of problems.
Before I transitioned from Windows, I exported the magnet links from qBittorrent.
Now, I have qBittorrent on Ubuntu and I know how to add the magnets, but adding and forcing recheck doesn't do anything - it still tries to redownload everything, despite the files already being there.
Also, when I add all at once, my screen freezes and I have to restart because I don't know how to just kill qBittorrent.
How can I add the magnet links and make the program recognize that the files are already there? I don't want to redownload my whole collection every time I switch distros or torrent clients.
What are some distros that come with few packages? I've been using xubuntu for quite some time, but I don't like how it has lots of stuff installed by default that I won't use, such as the gnome games and libreoffice.
I know you can do sudo apt purge, but I want to achieve this ootb for future installations' sake.
I'm on Day 3.
Try yoga, meditation, and cutting out your carbs.
alt/super + tab
alt/super + `
login as root
use su -
or some sudoers timeout setting
>I want a "lightweight" distro (no bloat / base only)
>Not Arch or Gentoo
you'll have a working base system in minutes
>skip last step of installer (don't select additional pkg groups)
reboot and install what you want, for example:apt install i3 lxdm lxappearance pcmanfm arc-theme breeze-icon-theme
>ib4 ubanto autistic screeching
/ ~1gb; ram usage less than 100mb
check this out
someone around showed me a scrot of his calf/jack setup, idk more, look for calf
isnt it using networkmanager?
>EVERYTHING IS FORMATTED!
you should have used the superior ubuntu gnome
amd opensouce drivers are good but if want gayms you want the amdgpu one maybe even the closed source amdgpu-pro but only if with a newer gpu
works on my (and everyone elses) machine™
or maybe pic related but tap-to-click is disabled by default
>alt/super + tab
>alt/super + `
Thanks. My workflow is back
>constantly recommending that software
He didn't specify what type of window manager he wants. he didn't specify what icons or theme he wants.
What do you get out of people using "your" software? Bear in mind that it's not your software since you didn't actually create it. All you did was leech off other people's work.
Hi /fglt/, I'm usually chilling in /sqt/ and /pcbg/ because I'm more interested in the hardware side of things, so I'm sorry for being new to Linux. However, I've gotten quite sick of Windows 10 and the problems I've had with it over time, and am willing to completely move over.
I'm aware that most distros of Linux are majorly unlike Windows, and I'm fine with that. I was fine with moving to Mac 7 years ago, then moving to Windows again about a year ago. I'd just like to move away from Windows and try something new, so I was either thinking hackintosh, or just simply some linux distro.
Okay, rambling out of the way, I have some questions.
I keep seeing Ubuntu & Mint being 2 of the main ones recommended for those new to Linux entirely. About all the experience I have with any amount of Linux is 2 years ago in college, I setup a Mint VM. Going through the 'Babbies First Linux', I keep looking over at Ubuntu
How well does WINE run nowadays? I tried it for some Binding of Isaac about 4 years ago, and it ran pretty nicely, so I was curious about how well it ran now. I'm not too concerned about playing a ton of games, mainly just a few every now and then, otherwise it'll be photo/video editing/rendering, web browsing, and eventually (probably) some programming.
Going into the previous question, what's a decent photo/video editing/rendering program(s) for Linux?
Also, are all programs made for Linux available on all distros of it? I'd imagine some mightn't be by default, but I'm clueless.
How up-to-date is the 'Babbies First Linux' picture?
If I could manage to get my hands on a bunch of cheap office computer, such as Optiplex for example, would it be worth it dedicating 2 of them as a XBMCbuntu/GeeXboX and a Dream Studio systems?
Lastly, since I recently bought a new Ryzen system, would it be worth it at all to just sell it again and buy a cheap Xeon for the multicore, and VM off that for all sorts of workloads?
So sorry for the mess, I'm new. Thanks in advance.
>I keep seeing Ubuntu & Mint being 2 of the main ones recommended for those new to Linux entirely. About all the experience I have with any amount of Linux is 2 years ago in college, I setup a Mint VM. Going through the 'Babbies First Linux', I keep looking over at Ubuntu
Please avoid Mint. It's shit, and when I say shit, I mean ti could probably be the worst distribution with more than 50 users. Ubuntu flavored with Xfce, KDE, Gnome is fine for a beginner. Even Arch/Void could do for a beginner, though.
>How well does WINE run nowadays?
Pretty good, there are configs for many programs and usually it should work after some tweaks. For heavy games, though, you don't want to use it.
>Going into the previous question, what's a decent photo/video editing/rendering program(s) for Linux?
People will suggest you GIMP, which is fine but different, I'd tell you to wine CS6 and have a decent program you are probably already used to.
>Also, are all programs made for Linux available on all distros of it? I'd imagine some mightn't be by default, but I'm clueless.
Distro maintainers build the packages from source for the distro. So no, some smaller distributions have less packages but can be compiled by yourself. This is pretty rare lately, unless you go with a really dead distribution most of the stuff you'll need should be there.
>Lastly, since I recently bought a new Ryzen system, would it be worth it at all to just sell it again and buy a cheap Xeon for the multicore, and VM off that for all sorts of workloads?
Ryzen works very nice on multicore. If you can profit for it good, but I wouldn't unless you have some specific needs
That's what I think.
you run su with itsudo su
enjoy being root until you exit or close the terminal emulator.
neither of the stereotypes from your image canINSTALL GENTOOso go for it.
PROTIP: look into distcc and portage squashfs before starting to emerge on a pi.
Okay thanks, will look at customizing/tweaking Ubuntu.
I won't be playing large games that's for sure.
I've dabbled in a bit of GIMP, so might just go balls deep on that too, depending on how well Photoshop works for me.
Otherwise cool, mainly got Ryzen for the hopes of upgrading later to 8+ core in Zen2/3 (no hopes, but IF they bring out more than 8 for AM4)
Also, how well would Ubuntu run on 4GB ram? Planning on buying a new 2x8GB kit down the line, but bought a DoA 2x4GB kit, and currently in the process of RMA-ing it, so have to sit on 4GB for now.
Also also, does Ryzen Master work on Linux?
People, I just want to shill bspwm right now because its so great.
Install bspwm. It stays out of your way, does binary tree style tiling, gaps for rice, no gaps for efficience - and everything dynamic.
Random youtube demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17CLayt_aA
People, I just want to shill xmonad right now because its so great.
Install xmonad. It stays out of your way, can do binary tree style tiling, gaps for rice, no gaps for efficience - and everything dynamic. And it's written in haskal.
Just saying, in case you don't know. Theres a huge difference between being a good citizen and helping your neighbour and things like referring to a manpage which says "if the user logs in, he" as harrasment.
Part of the reason Haskell is so good for xmonad is that it's functional - and if you use it right, it makes it really easy to compose functions (or objects) together to make other functions.
For example, in xmonad there is a LayoutClass class, which all Layouts must be an instance of. Since the core bits of LayoutClass are defined in a functional way, you can make a "wrapper" that turns any LayoutClass into a new LayoutClass that has gaps around windows, for example.
I had a feeling that the kernel's disk caching would take care of it. I just wanted to confirm it. bash script is a simple one-liner and gets executed every 30 seconds. So, it's not like it'd tax my hard disk anyways.
First you have to graduate from elementary school. After that, graduate from not-retarded school. Then go to your mom and ask her why she didn't abort an idiot child. Then come back and ask the question again.