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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine.

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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>>61764502
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>>61769246
When will you be done with your silly hate thing?
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>>61769298
no u
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Any good IDE for linux?

Atom is pissing me off and Kate is faggot shit.

I miss Notepad ++
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>>61769003
thanks. this is what I get when I open vi. can you blame anyone for getting confused?
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>>61769441
It's because vi is on most distros just a symlink to vim, so it calls the same program.
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How do I cope with the existence of systemd /fglt/?

I've gone through all the other stages of grief already (denial, anger, bargaining, and depression) but my autism just won't let me move on to acceptance.

How do you do it?
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>>61769580
Have you tried systemctl poweroff and turning it back on again?
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> Linux is about choice.

If I could only have one thing this year, it would be to eliminate that
meme from the collective consciousness. It is a disease. It strangles
the mind and ensures you can never change anything ever because someone
somewhere has OCD'd their environment exactly how they like it and how
dare you change it on them you're so mean and next time I have friends
over for Buffy night you're not invited mom he's sitting on my side
again.

As a consumer, yes, you have lots of choices in which Linux you use.
This does not mean Linux is in any sense _about_ choice, any more than
because there are so many kinds of cars you can buy that cars are about
choice.

The complaints up-thread about juju and pulse are entirely valid, but
the solution is not to try to deliver two things at once. If you try to
deliver both at once you have to also deliver a way of switching between
the two. Now you have three moving parts instead of one, which means
the failure rate has gone up by a factor of _six_ (three parts, and
three interactions). We have essentially already posited that we have
insufficient developer effort to have 100%-complete features at ship
time, so asking them to take on six times the failure rate when they're
already overburdened is just madness. Alternatively, we could say that
we're integrating features too rapidly, but you do that at the expense
of goal 1, to be the showcase for the latest and greatest in free
software.
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FUCKING GNU FAGGOTS KILL YOURSELVES NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR NON-CONTRIBUTION TO LINUX
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>>61769580
I just dream about installing Void or Gentoo some day and pretend I'm not running software developed by Satan himself. But I never get to installing another distro, because Fedora is too comfy to leave. Any advice on how to make yourself switch? Surely some distro-hopper can share the secret?
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>>61769626
It's not just a touchy feely philosophy anon.

The idea behind it is actually a rock solid concept to improve development. Look at this shit, pic related.

Pulseaudio (and also systemd, this type of software development seems to be Poetterings calling card) is nothing more than sweeping everything under the rug.
There is nothing elegant about these solutions, and in fact sweeping it under the rug just prevents real solutions from ever being able to come into the light.
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GIVE ME A GOOD IDE TO WORK ON NIGGERS

I WANT TO MAKE SHIT COMPILE AND SPIT OUT FROM A FUCKING CONSOLE IN THE SAME WINDOW.

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I have coreutils, grub, bash, findutils, screen, finger, grep....
What's missing?
I want as much GNU on my computer as I can get.
The fucking freedom is so fucking intense!!!
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>>61769693
>>61769822
>>61769844
(you)
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>>61769910
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What's the comfiest distro?
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>>61770030
Linux Mint.
It's chock full of GNU.
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>>61769743
Windows since Vista does basically same thing though. Direct hardware access for audio is painfully inflexible and unnecessary from a latency standpoint.
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>>61770030
probably Ubuntu, or Mint. Also Arch Linux is popular amongst masochists.
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post interesting pics
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>>61770030
define comfy. i'd say gentoo and arch due to how light they are and how well they work on my computer
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>>61770169
Well it's all fine and good to create an option that ties things together like that.

But I really think the reason people hate the software he produces is because the way it's done it results in us basically _depending_ on it.

It's like having a big mess lying on your floor and it's no one persons fault. But instead of working together to clean it up or just letting individuals pick up the pieces they need and use them, or creating his software that sort of organizes everything on the floor a little bit but is still completely optional
he just goes ahead and does it all for us, wraps everything up into this big ol' shitball and anyone who needs individual pieces now has to plug into this giant ball of shit and that's just how we're going to be doing things for the next 20yrs because he gets so much support for some reason.
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What is this friendly faggotry? Why not the manly and angry gnu lunix thread? Grrrrr!!!
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>>61770387
/maglt/?
I like it.
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>>61770403
/malt/ sounds better
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>>61770425
It does.

Someone should make it. I got a lot of problems with you people, and on /malt/ you're gonna hear about it
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>>61770241
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are repositories cross compatible between distros?
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>>61770481 :^)
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
Saved for future reference.
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Been trying to remove plasma-desktop and now i get this when i try to boot.
Tried systemctl default and systemctl reboot, problem persists.
What do?
>>61770549
No.
Depends on the distro (lubuntu is compatible with xubuntu and such)
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>>61769626
Did your mother have any children that were NOT born retarded?

Linux is about choice.
We're here.
We choose.
Get used to it, asshole.
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Shut the fuck up linux losers, I could kick all your neckbeard asses and I'm like 17 so fuck you. Linux doesn't even have video games, what a pathetic joke.
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>>61770607
Try journalctl -xb and see what is throwing the error.
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>>61770649
You have to be retarded to use linux
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>>61770677
gr8 b8 m8 oh w8 it ain’t
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>>61770677
>(USER WAS BANNER FOR THIS POST)
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>>61770789
That's just a meme, that never happens.
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>>61770789
Banned*
Damn keyboard

>>61770808
Yes it does
mods are gods
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>>61770364
Because he tackles a lot of fiddly things nobody else wants to be arsed with. There's nothing stopping anyone from making a pulse clone, but the niche is toy audio by definition. Jack exists for real work.

Systemd, same difference. Nobody really NEEDS it except for enterprise, but all the other whore distros smelled where the money was going. I'm still disappointed in Debian.
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>>61770677
...GNU/Linux losers...
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I just upgraded to Devuan Ascii and my font rendering got a massive boost. I no longer have a single reason to complain about anything non-ubuntu. Very very nice
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>>61770717
Wha should i look for? Theres shitloads of text
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>>61770808
i got banned for saying the "im 12 and what is this meme"
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>>61770957
I'm pretty sure the reason they do that is to be on the safe site legally. Although I'm sure they'd appeal it pretty quickly.
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>>61770955
Something that is red
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What are some cool terminal commands?
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>>61770976
they do it as a joke thats not funny. ie vp banned me for 7 days for saying im 11 (illogical ban time)
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>>61771022
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
http://www.catonmat.net/download/perl1line.txt
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>>61771022
su
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>>61770876
>>61770957
>>61771038
Mods are faggots, they don't do public bans.
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>>61771022
>pic
story?
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>>61771055
Why would you ever use su?
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>>61771111
Because sudo is for faggots and root login is dumb
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>>61770982
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>>61771167
pls stop shitposting
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>>61771201
no u
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>>61771090
this
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>>61770953
Liar.
Upgrading to "ascii" doesn't work. Tried it myself.
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>>61771184
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>>61771022
write [user] [tty] <<EOF
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>>61771235
>>61771090
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2512597/government-it/hackers-get-access-to-n-j--school-data-system.html
Found it.
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>>61771090
>>61771235
On January 18th, 2011, a 1337 h4x0r posted the administrator details to the database of a school in Rhode Island. Many lulz resulted from this, with school lunch prices set to 9000, 1 credit needed to graduate, all black kids expelled for stabbing, and a "special alert" sent to all parents containing the Stallman GNU/Linux copypasta, among many other edits. Basically, the entire database was anally raped. The thread resulted in half of /g/ being banned and once again proved that /g/ is the best board on 4chan.
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I did it.

I finally did it, GNU-senpai. After being indecisive for 6 years, I finally confessed my love to my childhood distribution of Linux that my father introduced me to so many years ago, but to which I hadn't been able mustering the courage to admit my true feelings, because things seemed comfortable the way they were: me observing Linux from afar, always dreaming of what could be if it were me with Linux, but never committing, because the prospect of a new relationship with Linux seemed uncertain and I didn't want to lose this image of the cool, perfectly efficient, capable, trustworthy, dependable and nice operating system I treasured in my heart since I was young.
But now I've done it, by installing a Linux distribution and formatting my Windows installation.

This new interface feeling is scary, dealing with the command line is something entirely new to me, but the more I spend my daily life in this way, I feel certain that Linux will continue to make me happy.
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>>61771388
so proud of you guys.
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>>61771417
ur welcome
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>>61771417
Wait, that was the wrong image.
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Can anyone help me with this >>61770080? I posted it just when the thread died.
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>>61771111
avoids needing sudo, safer when less users
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>>61771167
>>61771462
>having a root acount
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>>61771496
>having a unlocked bootloader
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>>61771496
Letting a little thing like that stop you.
sudo -s
su root
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getting a segmentation fault on rtorrent. logs aren't really helping
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is there anywhere i can get a tux keycap to replace the windows one? preferably a clear/rbg compatible one
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>>61771752
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tux+keycap
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>>61771828
>trying to look intelligent
>posting cuckle botnet link
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>>61771828
>none backlight compatible
why do you think im asking here, you snide shit
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>>61771860
>implying other search engines are worth anything
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>>61771860
>complaining about google
>using Google captcha
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>>61771860
>>61771872
>>61771887
>>61771902
>suck my cock dudes
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Fedora debian or something else? ive used gnu linux enough to know the basics but im looking for an everyday os, might possibly dual boot windows 8
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ohayo /g/-san, I noticed that sometimes people post unrelated but interesting images along with their questions. can someone dump some of these pics? tia
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>>61772177
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>>61772177
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>>61772585
16
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>Ubuntu with Gnome
>want to disable touchpad
>go to settings
>go to "Mouse & Touchpad"
>has no touchpad sethtings
>there are no touchpad settings anywhere
( ._.)
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>>61772585
At least 16.
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>>61772585
induction is impossible
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>>61772585
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>>61772722
it's not impossible
it's just not guaranteed to be correct
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>>61772826
how do you know that?
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>>61772833
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_induction
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>>61772894
How do you know this article is accurate?
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>>61772833
You would have to make a lot of assumptions based on just an image. And even then your answer would vary depending what you infer from the image. Does it have 4 side or 3 sides? How many dimensions? Is the inside hollow or filled? ad infinitum.
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>>61772747
5
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When you have pictures without file extention, some a jpg and some png, how do you rename them correctly?
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>>61772938
THUMB ISNT A FINGER
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>>61772990
[cititation needed]
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this guy comes up to your gf and slaps her ass
what do you do?
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>>61772990
all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs - penny's bf
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>>61773017
jokes on you penguin, i dont have a gf
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How can I list my audio devices from the command line?
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>>61769204
>Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
>GNU/Linux Thread

you seriously fell for the meme
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>>61773320
I literally had this problem 20 minutes ago but gave up by now. Seconding this question
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>>61773357
no u
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>>61773320
>>61773376
arecord
-L
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>>61773400
Connection error?
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>>61773400
What?
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>>61773320
alsamixer then press F6?
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good thread
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>>61773464
>>61773410

$ cat /proc/asound/cards
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>>61773711
good post
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>>61773853
good reply
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>>61769715
Don't, you don't Care about systemd enough to switch, fedora is an amazingly smooth distro, you really want to switch it out for say, arch?
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>>61773872
fedora lacka a lot of packages that debian based distros have. its a shame honestly
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>>61773864
>>61773853
>>61773711
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>cat file | grep pattern > file
>file is empty
???
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>>61774075
First off,
>cat file | grep
No. Do
$ grep file
instead.
To your problem: You need a temp file or install sponge.
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>>61770982
$ arch
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>>61772684
Cool, I found that you can easily turn it off with the console:

synclient TouchpadOff=1
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what are some good standard iptables settings?
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>>61774667
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Iptables
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What did they mean by this?
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>>61776204
probably a .desktop file got left behing because someone forgot to declare it as a config file in the package control file.
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>>61776426
nope, there's still a fair bit of libreoffice left. I managed to purge libreoffice-writer, libreoffice-calc and libreoffice-math, but this 'libreoffice' is seemingly impervious.

the task manager says the process is called 'LibreOffice 5.3' so I tried purging package name 'libreoffice-5.3' and 'LibreOffice-5.3' but they both return no such package.
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>>61771022
touch cat[/cat]
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>>61771022
cat > note
hello world
^D
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>>61776977
cat IDE is best IDE
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ed is the standard text editor
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>>61774913
thanks
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>>61777097
L-Lewd!
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Can any non qt fags show me the dependency required for deepin movie. And also can you please post a screenshot of deepin movie after you installed it? I need this for a research
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why do torrents clients always say missing files at boot on loonix but this doesn't happen on windows? I have the drive which my torrents get stored on set to mount at boot.
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>>61778255
>torrents clients always say missing files at boot
Could you elaborate?
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>>61778297
torrent running in transmission or qbittorrent (happens in both

close client, wait at least 30 seconds so it has time to write resume data

restart pc

open torrent client, waiting a minute or so so that secondary hdd has time to well and truly mount

client says error: missing files, have to force recheck to get it to see the data

xubuntu 17.04

never had such a problem on windows.
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Why is opensuse installation iso over 4 gigabytes? Kinda wanted to try this distro but this is a major turnoff, is it full of bloat?
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>tfw /flt/ is busy breaking their systems
>tfw beginners ask how to replace coreutils with busybox
Jesus, when will this madness end.
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>>61778703
>is it full of bloat?
of course
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>>61778703
https://software.opensuse.org/distributions/leap

>DVD/USB Stick 4.7GB
>Network CD/USB Stick 85MB

but yes opensuse is bloatcity
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What's currently the smallest distro?
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>>61776204
libreoffice is a metapackage not an actual package

you need to remove the actual libreoffice programs
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>>61778875
tinycore? 12mb
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>>61778875
Damn Small Linux
Tiny Core Linux
Knoppix
Alpine Linux

One of those depending on the use case.
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So I got a X220 with Debian atm, any tweaks I should do or it just works?
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Why don't you learn perl, /fglt/? It makes fun to write little programs or golf code nobody can read and it's badass on the commandline, a drop in awk-grep-sed, fast and available everywhere.
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>>61778875
Linux from scratch boasts being able to have an apache server on some ridiculously low amount. I forget the exact number.
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FUCK YOU
You fooled me into installing this OShit without its endless stream of bullshit and now it's too late.
I formated everything and got myself a usb stick with Ubuntu because how fucking hard could it be? I've spend more than 10 hours trying to get it work and I'm so tired but I'm too angry to sleep! It doesn't even work properly because the fucking devs, AMD and jesus decided that they hate me. Currently I'm running on some opensource graphic drivers which suck and it took me way too many hours to find out WHY SHIT ISN'T WORKING. I've once in an act of frustration rebooted the system 4 in a row and 4 times there were FOUR(4) DIFFERENT RESULTS. Once it crahes, then it spews dozens of error messages but works and sometimes it just stop for no reason. I don't even have a reaction image to show my anger BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS FORMATTED!

I can't even switch back to Windows because I've invested too much time into this shit. Now I'm stuck forever making stupid bash scripts I never needed and can't even play games anymore
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>>61779873
>FUCK YOU
stopped reading here; friendly thread
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>>61779873
The pain you feel is just the birth of a man starting to understand how2computer.
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>>61769204

How do I go about running a second video card through a vm?

Either ubuntu or fedora. I have guides but nothing explains when to install the cards. Do I install the operating system with both cards already in the machine? Install the second card after? The instructions say blacklist the card but those commands seem to depend on the card already being installed.

Have a fury x and titan pascal first version. Want to be able to use the fury on the operating system for my monitors and have the titan used by multiple vms. One for machine learning and one for games.

I think the fury x should be supported out of the box but I might need to add drivers. I have had trouble installing Ubuntu in the past when the open source driver doesn't like the video card. Would compiling the kernel myself allow me to configure the drivers before install?
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>>61779945
use the intigrated card for the host and the actual graphix card for the guest
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>>61779602
Good ol' perl. Seems it's slowly dying doe to python, ruby and nodejs. Haven't seen a perl script in a while.
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>>61779954

Dont have one on my cpu.

I see tons of guides for passthrough depending on distro and version but no one talks about the cards being installed.
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Does anyone have some nice GPLv3 ascii art?
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h-how to enable emoji in urxvt?
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>>61776204
>xubuntu
>chrome
>sudo
>apt, not apt-get
>default hostname
>nonpersonal username
>/pol/ memes
It meant "stop posting, go back to windows, never post on /g/ again"
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>>61778987
don't forget puppy
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>>61780162
but anon, apt-get is obsoleted by apt
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>>61780286
>proprietary software
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apt-get and apt at one time each had there package list history, so you should have used either one or the other, but now they use the same and can be used interchangeably.
But if you run apt --help and apt-get --help, you'll see that only apt-get has super cow powers.
Cow power is only required for patching the code and building .debs from the source repository.
https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial
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>>61780286
I don't need a single program listed there
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>>61777097
awww
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>>61780286
cough cough cough VM cough cough cough
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>>61776465

Learn to use your package manager.
Learn to identify to which package files belong.
Learn to uninstall said packages.
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>>61776465
apt purge libreoffice
apt autoremove

Or you can do
apt purge libreoffice*
>>
a metapackage is basically a list of packages.
if you want the libreoffice suite you can apt install libreoffice.
If libreoffice is included in your distro by default, there is prolly is no metapackage installed.
Try apt show libreoffice or apt-cache show libreoffice.
dpkg -L <some package you actually DO have installed>
>libreoffice-base
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anyway to update just one package on fedora? for example sudo only-update firefox or something like that?
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>>61781644

Why would you do that?
>>
>Tired of Mint and it's frankendebian ways
>Decide to try out Lubuntu
>Can't leave the LAN unless I both disable IPv6 and manually configure a DNS server
What the hell? I thought Ubuntu was meant for people who wouldn't even know what a DNS is in the first place. Is this an LXDE issue?
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>>61771022
fortune > /tmp/fortune && cat <(echo -e "Listen faggot,") /tmp/fortune | cowsay

How do I pipe gooder so no /tmp?
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>>61782473
You can group commands via { and } like this:
{ printf 'Listen faggot,\n'; fortune; } | cowsay
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>>61782817
Thanks, stranger.
brb, I'll be playing with my new toy.
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>>61782071
Yeah that's an LXDE issue, try xubuntu if you want a nice easy experience.
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Serious question, neckbeards.
While listening to music some songs plays louder than others, is there a way to adjust sound automaticaly to play all songs on similar level?
I'm using cmus (because it's comfy with my i3wm)
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>>61778819
What's wrong with having a choice of software?
I thought Linux was about freedom and choice?
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>>61783124
filtered
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Systemd 234 seems to be ignoring the options noauto,x-systemd.automount. It waits for the device but it isnt setup up(manual crypto).It sits there for over a minute holding up the shell login.Am i missing something?
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>>61783164
Cant handle the facts?
Censoring your self, hmm sounds like something a stallmanist would do :)
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>>61783190
Go back to your thread. Oh wait ...
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>>61783124
>>61783164
>>61783190
>>61783196

it was a fine thread, please dont ruin it
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>>61781827
updating everything fucks my monitor setup to the point of not being usable
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My new ryzen machine regularly freezes up (black screen, still powered on) when encoding videos or compiling using multiple cores. Anything I can do about that?
Might it be RAM related or is it possibly the same problem as the one concerning compilation that's being talked about?
Anything I can do about that?
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>tfw you learn that "cd" brings you back home
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>>61784701
and "cd -" to last directory
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>>61784701
Drop this into your ~/.bashrc.
# If set, a command name that is the name of a directory is executed as
# if it were the argument to the cd command. This option is only used by
# interactive shells.
shopt -s autocd
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>>61783643
Install Gentoo
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>>61784742
disgustin
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I'm a fucking casual normie.

I had enough of Windows' shit and decided to switch over. Installed Manjaro KDE edition and have been mostly smooth sailing since.

I know a little bit about the history of FOSS, GNU and Linux, and the interjection copypasta - but not quite enough to give a shit.

Which thread should I reside in if I just wanna talk about general linux shit, without getting embroiled in the autism? I honestly don't understand the distinction and the little pissy feud, and definitely don't care.
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>>61785370
You could lurk both threads and decide yourself.
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>>61785370
Posted this in the other thread too so I'm not missing either side of the argument >>61785398
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>>61785370
Everyone is welcome here.
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>>61784701
iktf
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>>61785370
Manjaro is comfy. Make sure to learn, use and love the commandline, it really helps to understand how the system works and makes your experience even smoother after a while.
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>>61769373
notepadqq
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can I add some users without bloated home directories? just the users? I'm so lonly
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>>61785451
Unless you think Linux is more than a kernel
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>>61785630
You can set a null home folder
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>>61785630
>creating homeless users
no wonder ur lonely
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>>61785653
Wrong. Nobody is calling anyone out for saying Linux, especially not beginners. All you may get is a interjection completed with a fine rare stallman.
Compared to the other thread, we're actually friendly.
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>>61785751
That's because triggered people from this thread were shitting it up
>>
I'm still in favor of the manly/angry Linux thread, /malt/.
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>>61784701
tfwu learn CDPATH lets you cd anywhere.
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>>61785751
>tfw saved all the rare stallmans
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>>61785779
losing your cool means it's still less friendly than this thread
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>>61785847
Reminder that GNU fags posted gay porn in the other thread because they aren't friendly
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If anyone thinks the thread should be called /flt/ because of their own political bias, they should just create a /flt/ thread and go there.
Simple, really.
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>>61785971
>/flt/ has been here over 2 years.
It's right here, July 2015, first documented /flt/

https://warosu.org/g/thread/S49808959

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/48653055/#48653055

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/48969412/#48969412

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/48969412/#48969412

Stallmanists usurped the thread for their own religious communist ideologys

Now that's been settled, you can go back to re dit or /pol/ or whatever turd you crawled out from
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>>61786018
>those links
wtf I hate GNU now
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>>61786018
You seem to be under the impression I give a fuck which came first. I simply don't want to converse with idiot fucksticks who think the GPL is communist and GNU is shit.
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Whats a good + portable way to match a JSON value? I know about jq, but I'm searching for a solid, portable way.
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>>61786313
Install Gentoo
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>>61786335
I would just like to interject for one moment. The operating system you are suggesting for me to install, and rather commandingly might I add, will in fact, not directly solve my current problem at hand, and will actually cause me to ask further questions about the difficult process involved in installing it. Gentoo is a very nice operating system itself, but I'd rather you directly assist me in my quest to solve my current predicament.

I understand that many computer users run the Gentoo Linux operating system, and I realize they may enjoy it greatly and are not currently experiencing the current problem that I have whilst using my non-Gentoo operating system. Through a peculiar turn of events, I have noticed an enormous amount of users make the "Install Gentoo" suggestion, but many of its users are not aware that this suggestion, in most cases, is actually not an "easy-fix" to every single computer-related error.

There really are reasons for installing Gentoo, and there are people using it, but it is just for the few users who choose to compile their own source code locally according to their chosen configuration. Gentoo is just another operating system: the problems I am experiencing will not undeviatingly be solved if I make the choice to install it. All these so-called "Install Gentoo" suggestions I am noticing should cease immediately.
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>>61786313
Install Apline
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>>61786335
Try this:
wget -qO- https://httpbin.org/get | sed -n '/"User-Agent"/s/^.*"\(.*\)".*/\1/p'

Downside is, it only works when the output is formatted like in my example, it doesn't work with minified json.
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>>61786397
meant to quote >>61786313
>>
I'm having a really hard time switching over. For the past two weeks, I've been doing nothing but fixing bugs and incompatibilities. I dread ever having to set up Ubuntu again, let alone do all of these fixes for distributions with less help.

Currently I'm fighting with:
audio crackling/static
tearing
no sound only on Chromium over HDMI
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>>61786397
Perfect ty
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>>61786821
>>>/g/flt
this is a gnu circlejerk thread
>>
Why most distros lack a ports system? It's flexible and avoids the "hunt for external packages" problem, plus it integrates into the package manager perfectly.
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>>61786851
What's wrong with GNU?
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>>61786868
You took the GNU/Bait
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>>61786851
no it's not, this is the serious thread.
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>>61786887
>GGGNNNNNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>61786902
meanwhile in the other thread:
>IT'S NOT GNU/LINUX REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>61786902
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>>61786919
saved
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So I always see GTK referred to as GTK+, GTK2, and GTK3. Is GTK2 and GTK+ the same thing?
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>>61787025
Before you asked, I didn't care. Now I care, wtf man.
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>>61769204
>>>/g/flt is that way, faggots
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>>61787411
no, we're in the right place. The place for friendly discussion of GNU/Linux
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>>61787025
GTK is GTK+ (GTK+ is the newer name).
GTK2 and GTK3 are versions of GTK+.
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what are some cool vim plugins to check out?
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>>61787472
zoomwin, editorconfig, airline, trailing whitespace fix, vim-surround
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>>61787434
I think he was looking for faggots to join his faggot thread and engage in faggotry.
>Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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>>61787472
Syntastic, it's gold.
I also use easyalign alot.
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>>61787411
/flt/ thread is full of pointless hate.
literally nothing constructive, also i have bookmark that points to g/fglt/ and its really silly that you trying to brake name convention.

>>61769204
will ~~(((Installing Gentoo)))~~ make my rasberry Pi less gay? (pic rel)

How to make firefox use QT file dialog? is it even possible?
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>>61787485
>trailing whitespace fix
You need a plugin for that?
Just bind :s/\s\+$//<cr> to some key.
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>>61787441
So GTK+2 and GTK2 are the same thing, just different name?
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>>61787523
It highlights trailing whitespace too!
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>>61787619
Could be done with config too.
highlight trailwhitespace ctermfg=125 guifg=#dd0055
match trailwhitespace /\s\+$/

But if the plugin is comfy, enjoy.
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>>61787720
Oh shit, thats neat. Didn't know that. surroundwhitespace just works for now but i'll keep it in mind when i rewrite my vimrc
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>>61787741
oops, meant trailing whitespace
>>
>that moment when you start replacing every program with a small shell script
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>>61787511
Now that the dust is settling, it's working out pretty good. Serious /fglt/ seems to have gone to /sqt/, the light discussion and shits and giggles are still here, and most of the full potato retards have gone to /flt/.
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>>61787777
I know that feel.
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>>61787777
nice digits
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>>61786821
I think I fixed the crackling with the tips under "Glitches, skips or crackling" here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting

Not sure, though.
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>>61787851
The fix was to turn timer-based scheduling off by adding
tsched=0
in:
/etc/pulse/default.pa


Just noticed that it still seems to be there a bit, though.
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>>61787777
Why shell scripts tho? Why not full blown C programs?
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>>61787777
examples needed honey
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GGGGGGNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU/LINUX
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>>61789037
>>
Any solution to the Popping/Clicking sound from an external DAC (Fiio E10k) ? I have tried everything on Arch's Wiki about PulseAudio and ALSA but no success. It starts whenever a sound is played/stopped it is more noticeable in apps such as Discord/Mumble/TS3 when people is talking with shitty microphones because their voices are interrupted frequently making the popping annoying as fuck it. Windows never stops the sound module when using those programs or anything related on playing sounds, so is unnoticeable till you actually mute the software. I wish linux audio worked as windows to not have to deal with that kind of problems.
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>>61789171
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Before I transitioned from Windows, I exported the magnet links from qBittorrent.

Now, I have qBittorrent on Ubuntu and I know how to add the magnets, but adding and forcing recheck doesn't do anything - it still tries to redownload everything, despite the files already being there.
Also, when I add all at once, my screen freezes and I have to restart because I don't know how to just kill qBittorrent.

How can I add the magnet links and make the program recognize that the files are already there? I don't want to redownload my whole collection every time I switch distros or torrent clients.
>>
What cflags should i have for dat rice?
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>>61780595
I do :(

>>61780864
You might as well just run Windows then for fuck's sake. Also believe it or not but some software actually has DRM that prevents it from running in a VM.
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Should I just give in to the systemd?
>>
See >>61793424. If you don't see it:

>2 or more threads
Kill yourselves you bike-shedding, retarded imbeciles.
>>
What are some distros that come with few packages? I've been using xubuntu for quite some time, but I don't like how it has lots of stuff installed by default that I won't use, such as the gnome games and libreoffice.

I know you can do sudo apt purge, but I want to achieve this ootb for future installations' sake.
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>>61791905

Cflags have nothing to do with looks of programs. Idiot.
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>>61793432

Every distribution has a minimal installer.
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>>61769204
http://youtu.be/n9YDz-Iwgyw?t=23m30s
>rms started gnu in 1984
>george orwell wrote a book named 1984
coincidence? i think not
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>>61779873
I'm on Day 3.

Try yoga, meditation, and cutting out your carbs.
>>
How do I set up sudo so that it keeps me logged in as it without having to use the sudo command all the time?
>>
Why can't you alt-tab between the same applications in GNOME? Like if I have two terminals open, I can't swap between them because it shows as one single terminal.
>>
What are some good bottom taskbars for Gnome/Debian?
Anything visual which shows what programs are open.
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>>61794153
alt/super + tab
alt/super + `

>>61794150
login as root
remove sudo
use su -
or some sudoers timeout setting

>>61793432
>I want a "lightweight" distro (no bloat / base only)
>Not Arch or Gentoo

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
>Network installer

you'll have a working base system in minutes
>skip last step of installer (don't select additional pkg groups)
reboot and install what you want, for example:
apt install i3 lxdm lxappearance pcmanfm arc-theme breeze-icon-theme


>ib4 ubanto autistic screeching
/ ~1gb; ram usage less than 100mb

>>61787777
check this out
https://gist.github.com/ubone/873c7c5db0e0f2e9c1c0c138ecda87f5

>>61783087
someone around showed me a scrot of his calf/jack setup, idk more, look for calf

>>61782071
isnt it using networkmanager?

>>61783037
source?

>>61779873
>EVERYTHING IS FORMATTED!
kek

you should have used the superior ubuntu gnome
amd opensouce drivers are good but if want gayms you want the amdgpu one maybe even the closed source amdgpu-pro but only if with a newer gpu

>>61778255
works on my (and everyone elses) machine™

>>61771022
man touch

>>61772684
or maybe pic related but tap-to-click is disabled by default

>>61770030
ubuntu gnome
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>>61794320
there's 1 or 2 extensions
dash to dock
dash to panel
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>>61794478
>alt/super + tab
>alt/super + `
Thanks. My workflow is back
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>>61794478

>constantly recommending that software

He didn't specify what type of window manager he wants. he didn't specify what icons or theme he wants.
What do you get out of people using "your" software? Bear in mind that it's not your software since you didn't actually create it. All you did was leech off other people's work.
>>
>>61783087

Replaygain. Look into it.
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>>61795048
the apt install i3 lxdm lxappearance pcmanfm arc-theme breeze-icon-theme pasta? it says
>for example:
right there
>>
>come back after months
>two generals
I hate GNUcucks but antiGNUcucks are even worse
>>
Hi /fglt/, I'm usually chilling in /sqt/ and /pcbg/ because I'm more interested in the hardware side of things, so I'm sorry for being new to Linux. However, I've gotten quite sick of Windows 10 and the problems I've had with it over time, and am willing to completely move over.
I'm aware that most distros of Linux are majorly unlike Windows, and I'm fine with that. I was fine with moving to Mac 7 years ago, then moving to Windows again about a year ago. I'd just like to move away from Windows and try something new, so I was either thinking hackintosh, or just simply some linux distro.
Okay, rambling out of the way, I have some questions.
I keep seeing Ubuntu & Mint being 2 of the main ones recommended for those new to Linux entirely. About all the experience I have with any amount of Linux is 2 years ago in college, I setup a Mint VM. Going through the 'Babbies First Linux', I keep looking over at Ubuntu
How well does WINE run nowadays? I tried it for some Binding of Isaac about 4 years ago, and it ran pretty nicely, so I was curious about how well it ran now. I'm not too concerned about playing a ton of games, mainly just a few every now and then, otherwise it'll be photo/video editing/rendering, web browsing, and eventually (probably) some programming.
Going into the previous question, what's a decent photo/video editing/rendering program(s) for Linux?
Also, are all programs made for Linux available on all distros of it? I'd imagine some mightn't be by default, but I'm clueless.
How up-to-date is the 'Babbies First Linux' picture?
If I could manage to get my hands on a bunch of cheap office computer, such as Optiplex for example, would it be worth it dedicating 2 of them as a XBMCbuntu/GeeXboX and a Dream Studio systems?
Lastly, since I recently bought a new Ryzen system, would it be worth it at all to just sell it again and buy a cheap Xeon for the multicore, and VM off that for all sorts of workloads?
So sorry for the mess, I'm new. Thanks in advance.
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>>61796089
>I hate
found your problem
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>>61796111
>I keep seeing Ubuntu & Mint being 2 of the main ones recommended for those new to Linux entirely. About all the experience I have with any amount of Linux is 2 years ago in college, I setup a Mint VM. Going through the 'Babbies First Linux', I keep looking over at Ubuntu
Please avoid Mint. It's shit, and when I say shit, I mean ti could probably be the worst distribution with more than 50 users. Ubuntu flavored with Xfce, KDE, Gnome is fine for a beginner. Even Arch/Void could do for a beginner, though.

>How well does WINE run nowadays?
Pretty good, there are configs for many programs and usually it should work after some tweaks. For heavy games, though, you don't want to use it.

>Going into the previous question, what's a decent photo/video editing/rendering program(s) for Linux?
People will suggest you GIMP, which is fine but different, I'd tell you to wine CS6 and have a decent program you are probably already used to.

>Also, are all programs made for Linux available on all distros of it? I'd imagine some mightn't be by default, but I'm clueless.
Distro maintainers build the packages from source for the distro. So no, some smaller distributions have less packages but can be compiled by yourself. This is pretty rare lately, unless you go with a really dead distribution most of the stuff you'll need should be there.

>Lastly, since I recently bought a new Ryzen system, would it be worth it at all to just sell it again and buy a cheap Xeon for the multicore, and VM off that for all sorts of workloads?
Ryzen works very nice on multicore. If you can profit for it good, but I wouldn't unless you have some specific needs

That's what I think.
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>>61769373
vim
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>>61794150
you run su with it
sudo su

enjoy being root until you exit or close the terminal emulator.

>>61787511
neither of the stereotypes from your image can
INSTALL GENTOO
so go for it.
PROTIP: look into distcc and portage squashfs before starting to emerge on a pi.
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>>61772684
just disable in the bios if you can.
>>
>install i3
>jklsemicolon
why is this allowed?
why not hjkl
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>>61796280
Okay thanks, will look at customizing/tweaking Ubuntu.
I won't be playing large games that's for sure.
I've dabbled in a bit of GIMP, so might just go balls deep on that too, depending on how well Photoshop works for me.
Otherwise cool, mainly got Ryzen for the hopes of upgrading later to 8+ core in Zen2/3 (no hopes, but IF they bring out more than 8 for AM4)

Also, how well would Ubuntu run on 4GB ram? Planning on buying a new 2x8GB kit down the line, but bought a DoA 2x4GB kit, and currently in the process of RMA-ing it, so have to sit on 4GB for now.
Also also, does Ryzen Master work on Linux?
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>>61796615
it's something to do with keyboard layouts or something. You can change it in the config file.
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>>61796615
i think because h is for setting to horizontal.

INSTALL XMONAD
>>
People, I just want to shill bspwm right now because its so great.

Install bspwm. It stays out of your way, does binary tree style tiling, gaps for rice, no gaps for efficience - and everything dynamic.

Random youtube demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17CLayt_aA
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>>61797460
People, I just want to shill xmonad right now because its so great.

Install xmonad. It stays out of your way, can do binary tree style tiling, gaps for rice, no gaps for efficience - and everything dynamic. And it's written in haskal.
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>>61769441
"Help poor children in Uganda!"

Lol vim is for cucks, emacs for life
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>>61797460
>that video
>btw I'm using Arch Linux
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>>61797514
Maybe the other thread is more your style.
>>
>>61797514
As emacs user, I'm shaming myself for this retarded post.
>>
>>61797514
Just saying, in case you don't know. Theres a huge difference between being a good citizen and helping your neighbour and things like referring to a manpage which says "if the user logs in, he" as harrasment.
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>>61797514
1/10
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>>61797514
current state of /g/'s brain damage
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>>61797549
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29
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>>61797514
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
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>>61797514
include me in your screenshot
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>>61797484
memes aside, what's the benefit of programming in haskel?
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Daily reminder if you aren't using Void you are missing out on the most organic GNU/LINUX experience.
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is there a way to uncuck ubanto's boot?
i want to see all the messages, not some fancy animation
i tried removing quiet and splash, but it deosnt help
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>>61797840
Part of the reason Haskell is so good for xmonad is that it's functional - and if you use it right, it makes it really easy to compose functions (or objects) together to make other functions.

For example, in xmonad there is a LayoutClass class, which all Layouts must be an instance of. Since the core bits of LayoutClass are defined in a functional way, you can make a "wrapper" that turns any LayoutClass into a new LayoutClass that has gaps around windows, for example.
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>>61798023
interesting, I'll take a look into the language, is xmonad a nice toy for learing haskell or should I look elsewhere?
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>>61798056
I wouldn't recommend it for learning haskell. I read this http://learnyouahaskell.com/ and enjoyed it, but it's not too interactive.
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I can't get my logged sessions on i3wm, how did i set gnome-keyring to work correctly?
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Do bash scripts that are ran repeatedly get cached into memory? Or would it be a better idea to have a small ramdisk dedicated for this?
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>>61798178
the kernel should automatically cache files that are used a lot. If it's ran repeatedly, maybe just make the script into a while loop if you're worried about disk usage?
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>>61798191
I had a feeling that the kernel's disk caching would take care of it. I just wanted to confirm it. bash script is a simple one-liner and gets executed every 30 seconds. So, it's not like it'd tax my hard disk anyways.
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>>61798634
cool story
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>>61798012

First you have to graduate from elementary school. After that, graduate from not-retarded school. Then go to your mom and ask her why she didn't abort an idiot child. Then come back and ask the question again.
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