/pcbg/ - pc building general - lilly tech tips edition

Anyone know of any good 1080p monitors for about $150 CAD ($120 USD)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XZ6Zbj

this look alright?

>>61767864
Its fine but I would get 3200 for your ram since its ryzen don't make the same mistake I made :(

>>61767864
Are you sure you want that case?

If I take a 4-pin fan (salvaged from an old CPU cooler) and run it on a 3-pin connector as a standard case fan, will that cause any issues?

>>61768139
4th pin is the PWM signal. It works on a 3 pin header, but speed regulation and RPM range may be limited

>>61767864
all fine. You might wanna go with higher clocked RAM from the QVL. Also a 450W PSU would be more than enough, don't know what you plan for the future though.

>>61768004
having a really hard time finding a 16GB set that's on my mobo's QVL

>>61768027
was probably going to put it on my desk, also it's my first build and that case looked easy to work with - why?

>>61767864
Get a dual fan 1060.

>>61768139
the extra pin controls speed
plugging it into a three pin connector should just run it full-tilt all the time

>>61767747
I was wondering if this is a good pc build because I'm pretty new to pc building

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vRdQV

I have a 2500k and r9 390/144hz monitor. whats the best card i can get for 450 usd to play on 144hz 1080 please.

>>61768004
>>61768252
>>61768271
thanks - I couldn't find a 3200ghz from my QVL in 16gb, but found 3000ghz - swapped the card too.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D8HTkT

>>61768371
GTX 1070 or a GTX 1080 on sale

>>61768416
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D8HTkT
looks good

>>61768371
a 1070

>>61768423
thank you sopa

>>61768267
It's just it's an unconventional case. Lot of the alleged advantages just aren't there. And it has a large footprint

Most modern cases are easy to build in. Check out the Fractal Define C or NZXT S340 (elite or non-elite). Both are inexpensive and ompact

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>>61767747
Is that Linus? Dude really let himself go.

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Would it be a smart decision to get a ryzen r3 1200 now and a ryzen 2 2600 next year? And what board would best support ryzen 2 for about $100? I'm currently thinking about getting the MSI b350 pc mate, but I'm not sure about how well it's supported and all.

>>61768642
Get it now, AM4 is a long term plataform

>>61768333
>No RGB LED strips
>new to pc building
Yeah, it shows

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How's this build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hrYKtJ

Honestly, I'm a noob to all this and I feel like I'm overspending just a bit. I've been playing games on low-mid settings for about 8 years now (on a 32bit laptop nonetheless, specs are in pic related), so I don't really care about graphics all that much. I just want something that will run games I like (Crusader Kings II, HOI4, EU4, Total War Games) at a respectable pace, and maybe some games that my current rig can't run (Xenoverse 2, Mafia III, Fallout 4, Witcher 3)

>>61768822
take a look at that link.

>>61768853
>i5 7600K
go for an R3 1600 instead. Also a GTX 960 with two fans

>>61768871
Gotcha. Thanks for the recs. I'll go do that now!

Whats teh difference between founders and partner cards

>>61768853
Thought you had the same build as me. Okay, I'm gonna break your build down.

An i5-7600k usually isn't worth it unless it's on sale, I'd suggest a 7700k or a Ryzen instead. A 1600 would probably be good for your price range.
Good amount of RAM, 16gb is the optimal amount.
I'd really suggest getting a Caviar Blue HDD and some form of SSD, for your operating system or some games. It really is worth it, the first time you use an SSD for a boot drive you will be shocked at how fast it is compared to an HDD.
a 3GB GPU is a really bad choice. A few years ago, before games like GTA V came out, a 2gb 960 was considered the sweet spot for 1080p gaming. But now adays, games can use up to 4gb of VRAM or more. A 2 fan GPU would be important, but prioritize 6gb over 2 fans.
The case isn't the best good looking one, but I suppose it's fine.
If this is your first build, then it would be a good idea to get a Semi / Fully Modular PSU. I, an experienced PC builder, still have trouble managing cables and it will save you a lot of hassle if you get a modular PSU.

>>61768642
AM4 is a fresh socket, can't imagine it's going anywhere for a while

>>61768853
Get the AMD R5 1600 instead of that i5.

Get a two fan version of the 1060.
If you plan on getting more demanding games, or at higher resolutions consider the 6GB version.

Get a Hitachi Ultrastar 3TB HDD instead for $12 more.
Get an SSD of at least 120GB.

I personally don't like the looks of that case, but to each it's own.

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Attention AMD fags
AMD has announced they will now sell the Wraith Max cooler separately due to demand. The cooler will retail for $59, 140 TDP of heat dissipation, and native support for AM4, AM3/AM3+, and FM2 sockets.

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Would any of you be interested in a more practical poorfag PC building review thinger?

I am planning to build this:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/xNXqZ8
What do you think?

>>61768960
>>61768979
Thanks guys!

If it isnt much, what do you guys think of this case?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vpdqqs/nzxt-case-cas340ww1
The glass window looks really cool

>>61769040
It's one of the most beloved cases on the market.

>>61769040
Pretty good case. Splerg for an elite model if you can, but if you can't that's fine.

>>61769025
>Wraith Max cooler separately due to demand
WTF, I must admit the spire cooler is pretty nice though.

>>61769038
looks good, but you need a graphics card. Ryzen doesn't have integrated graphics

>>61769025
I hear lots of good things about the Spire, but how is the Max?

>>61769091
previously, only OEMs had access to the Wraith Max cooler as it was only available for prebuillt systems.

>>61769119
The Spire everyone raves about has 95W TDP of heat dissipation. With 140W of heat dissipation, you could safely do a 4.0 Ghz overclock on a Wraith Max.

>>61769040
Great choice. There's a slightly more expensive version called S340 Elite, whose window is larger and made from actual glass, in addition to some small quality of life improvements. Check that one out as well

What the fuck is up with these monolith cases? Why aren't 5.25" drive bays a thing anymore? Why are you all falling for the digital-only trap?

>>61769160
I mean, fuck. I'm just waiting for the next revolutionary thing to happen where it's just a solid-sided cube with no USB ports or ports of any kind. And it just saddles into a magneto-power array instead of having a power cord. And is entirely reliant on bluetooth. Because why not go full fucking retard at this point?

>>61769140
awfully big for a "low-profile" cooler though

>>61768976
>>61768741
Okay, thanks. Any input on motherboard choice?

>>61769219
anything but ASRock

>>61769025
I might be retarded but does this mean they won't come in the box anymore, or just that they sell them apart from the normal cpu+cooler?

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pXd2sJ

I'm concerned that the video card won't be good enough. I'd like to play some vidya on it (Doom, maybe Nier), and have some plans of using it to play around with machine learning algorithms.

Also I have some ancient ATX case, any easy way to tell if it will be compatible? I can just buy one if it's not.

>>61769265
meaning that you can ALSO buy the Max separately
all the coolers that currently come with the various Ryzen processors should still continue to be included

>>61769282
Find your case in the list and add it to the build, it will tell you if shit fits.

A RX550 is still much better than integrated graphics right?

Hey /g/, does this build look alright to you guys?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kNTWQV

I'm not very experienced with computer building, but I asked my brother and another friend for help and they seemed to like it. I really don't want to go above $1100-$1130 and I also don't really care about playing the latest AAA title on hyper-realistic graphics. I'm just trying to build something that'll last for a decent amount of time.

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>>61769356
>orange case

>>61769025
((((((((citation needed))))))))

>>61769265
The Wraith Stealth comes with the Ryzen 3's and the Ryzen 5 1400.
The Wraith Spire comes with the Ryzen 1500X, 1600, and Ryzen 7 1700.
The Ryzen 5 1600X, Ryzen 7 1700X and 1800X didn't come with a cooler.
The Wraith Max never came with any processor available to the public.
People wanted an AMD branded cooler capable of handling a 4.0 Ghz overclock, which the Max can comfortable do. AMD said they wouldn't sell the Max because their research showed people often replaced stock coolers with aftermarket coolers, so why bother on the high end processors?
But backlash and demand is so stong, they're now offering the Wraith Max to consumers, separate from processors. The Max still doesn't come with any processor, but you can now get it at least.

>>61769401
https://www.pcper.com/news/Memory/AMD-Will-Sell-Wraith-Max-CPU-Cooler-Separately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrnkbmabK4U&t=0s

>>61769310
I can't seem to find a serial number but I doubt the website would have it, I'm talking a beige case circa 2004.

Anyway I won't worry about the case for now - if it fits, it fits.

How important is it that my RAM is at the max speed of my mobo? I could get something much cheaper if it doesn't make too big of a difference.

>>61769487
Faster ram translates directly into higher performance on Ryzen chips, so 3200 is good.

>>61769297
Ah, just saw what >61769140 said. I didn't know it was pre-built only.

>>61769454
Okay, thanks for the clarification. Though why not sell it separately in the first place, it's extra revenue afterall.

>>61769356
A 750W PSU is somewhat overkill, getting a network adapter that supports 802.11ac might be better if you want higher wifi speeds(if you really can't use ethernet) and as the op says, lower than $30 coolers are not really worth it over stock coolers. Also, think about getting an SSD.

>>61769347
by a large margin

Anyone have any clue when AMD's new desktop APUs could be on their way, think OEMs will get them exclusively for 6 months like they had for Bristol Ridge?

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>>61769282
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gqJQHN

Changed the GPU, added storage. This is getting to be a bit over budget so I might get cheapo ram for the time being, and replace it with what I have listed here sometime later.

Thoughts?

someone really needs to make a pc building simulator with up to date hardware
maybe even include things like desks and chairs

>>61769454
another wrench thrown in the works by amd
thanks you pajeet fucks

>>61769778
h-hi lain

>>61767747
this is a really good shoop, right?

>>61769905
Linustechtips is now a QT anime girl. deal with it

>>61769487
If you use that old case your front audio won't work, your front USB will be USB 2 or worse, you might have trouble with cooling, and you won't have dedicated SSD mounting spots (but can just put them anywhere really with double sided tape)

>>61769905
not a shoop. That was from an actual review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2vcvhhVb4

if I max all my available fans and the temps don't change, could that mean my ambient temps are shit?

>>61770002
maaay be

>>61769454
>60$ aftermarket stock cooler for cpus people have already bought and cooled in other ways

Who the fuck is the target audience of this?

>>61770002
depends on your fans/fan setup

>>61770002
If your ambient temperature is more than 25 °C it means your ambient temperature is shit

>>61770060
people who want a good cooler capable of a maximum overclock, without looking hideous through the case window? It's also relatively low profile so it would allow good overclocking in a small form factor build.

>>61770060
$60 seems a bit too high
Expect a price drop once the fanboys have finished buying in

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What should i replace next /g/?
Here's my current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xsQs3F
I'm thinking of getting into streaming soon, so content creation will be light to moderate.
And to add a bit of information to the part picker; I have a 1080p 144Hz monitor.

>>61770088
can't do much in florida

>>61770089
>>61770060
it's also RGB, which seems to be all the rage suddenly

>>61770099
get moar ram at higher speeds

>>61769943
Front ports aren't too big of an issue for me. but the SSD could pose a problem. It's a big case (about 40x42x19 cm), so odds are I could make it work somehow.

>>61770060
Fanboys.

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>>61769778
make sure that the RAM is on the QVL. Also check if there isn't a 3000MHz kit in the QVL for 130 bucks.

>>61770249
l-lain

>>61769025
>$60

Fuck off. There are way better coolers at that price point.

>>61770304
It's RGB
It will support a 4.0 Ghz overclock safely
It's RGB
It's AMD branded
It's RGB
At that price point, you'd be hard pressed to get more performance/looks even consifering the Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi

never mind the vidya, when will RAM/SSD prices go back to normal

>>61770383
when miners fuck off and GPU prices return to normal

>>61770369
A 212 evo can literally do all of that for a 3rd of the price. This cooler should be $30 max and even then it's still pushing it. Currytech tested it against a 212 evo iirc and the evo was actually the better cooler by a few °C. The only thing it has going for it is the AMD branding and the slightly lower profile compared to coolers with similar performance.

>just want to buy some 8gb ddr3 sticks since 2x4gb isn't working well anymore and mobo only has two slots
>100 dollars for old ram
what the fuck

>>61770406
iirc cryptos have a limited lifespan otherwise they wouldnt be scarce
ether is dying soon so there was a mining craze for it
some youtubers who mine said it should go back to normal at the end of the summer or end of the year at most

>>61770304
Just add 20 something more and you can get NH-D15 which will BTFO that thing.

>>61770462
link?
also, 212 EVO doesn't do RGB, even if it is mostly a flashy gimmick

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>>61770249
Ah, thanks, did not think to check that.
It looks like none of the 3200 variants from TEAM are listed on the QVL, but the cheap RAM I chose is listed. It is supposedly compatible with 3200, so I wonder if the list I've found is wrong.

Here is the list:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/STRIX_B350-F_GAMING/ROG_STRIX_B350-F_GAMING_Memory_QVL_20170519.pdf?_ga=2.205582353.329936003.1496830631-1995554391.1496830631

when exactly will they no longer include the stock coolers with the non X ryzens?

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>>61770535
The 212 has a version which comes with a red LED but even then if you want rgb you can pick up a 212 +rgb fan which will still come out cheaper than the wraith max.

http://wccftech.com/amd-wraith-cooler-hyper-212-evo/

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/wraith-max-and-wraith-spire-cooler/2

Here's a screenshot of the wraith spire in comparison to the 212 evo as well

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DJBtD8 waiting for Vega, how's it look, I want to play Destiny 2.

>>61770628
tbf I don't think the Wraith Max is the same as the original Wraith, even RGB aside

$60 really is too high though

>>61770634
a single vega wont handle that monitor well
either:
>get 2 vegas
>get a 60hz monitor
>get a 1080p monitor

>>61770754
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WzJQHN is this a nice 1080p, 144hz, freesync monitor?

>>61770628
>outperformed by a fucking $20 cooler

I need a cheap router. What's a good cheap router?

What graphics card do i buy if i have a prebuilt desktop pc with an i5 6400 and a 240 watt power supply? Would a GTX 1050 work?

Guys what motherboard should I get for a Ryzen 1600?

LI re recommend z370 board, that seems a tad excessive right?

Which specific boards are worth considering and how do I decide between them?

>>61770880
What do you plan on doing with the pc?

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>>61770589
yeah that's the correct list. There was some cheap [130$) corsair kit with 3000MHz on it if i remember correctly, but i can't see it right now.

>>61770872
upgrade your psu
that's fucking dire

>>61770892
Gay men

>>61770914
just post the build and i will tell you if your choice is retarded

>>61770872
>240 watts

there's no headroom there for a better graphics card

>>61770952
if it's a good OEM PSU a 1050Ti would work. But yeah, it should be replaced

How long does a (coolermaster) psu generally last? It's been used for atleast 5 years at not even half capacity.

>>61770911
If i got a better psu would the processor bottleneck the 1050?

>>61771123
>4 cores at 2.7
eh, probably a little bit

So, I want to to get a AIO cooler, but my case only has enough room for a 140mm rad. Are they worth it?

>>61770754
yes it can. this is the freesync version of the pg279q and that screen works perfectly well with the gtx 1070. vega at its minimum is around 1070 levels so if he gets any vega card it would be fine for that monitor.

i have an oc 1070 and i'm getting that exact monitor based on my friends experience with his gysnc version with his own 1070 (msi gaming x).

>>61771174
it will work but you may as well go play on console if you dont want 60fps

>>61771374
or 144 in this case
it works but it's a retarded waste

I recently upgraded to 1 1080 but my 6400 doesn't seem to be keeping up, I want to upgrade but I'm out of the loop when it comes to the latest CPU jew games. As I'm aware Windows 7 wont install updates with a Kaby Lake or Ryzen installed. Although there is a user made patch out that will let you get updates but you have to continually re-apply it, which sounds like a hassle. I'm considering just sticking with Skylake and getting a 6700K but I will have to spend extra for a slower product. I don't think I will be bottlenecked either way but it's still kinda shitty.

Thoughts? How annoying is it to run the user patch every time Microsoft breaks it?

>>61771374
is this bait? a 1070 can manage 1440p60 easily unless you're some colossal retard who runs every game with 8xmsaa + extreme settings. a 1070 + 1440p monitor is unanimously agreed as to be the best price/perf sweet spot for higher end gaming. you will easily achieve 60 fps in most titles available and the 144hz refresh is just a bonus for when playing games like battlefield or similar which a gtx 1070 can achieve 60+ fps consistently.

>>61767832
i got an AOC for 110 CAD

>>61771446
i use the patch, works fine. But i guess i'll switch to wangblows spyware 10 soon anyways as that also comes with performance increases in gaymes.

I'd just go with a ryzen 5 1600 and run the patches as long as you're stuck on 7

>>61771485
i got a stock R9 290 and get almost constantly 100 FPS in BF1 @1440p with settings variying between low for eyecandy and ultra for shit like textures and mesh quality

What clocks are good on R1600 with stock cooler? Finally got the RAM running at 3200, still don't see any performance bumps.

>>61771519
~3.8-4GHz

>>61771519
wouldn't go above 1.35 volts long-term with the Spire, regardless of whatever clock speed that gets you

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>>61771485
>not max settings
>over 60fps is just a bonus
this might be more up your alley

>>61771489
How often do you need to run it? Do you have to download a new version of the patch each time?

>>61771505
and this other guy thinks a 1070 can't even achieve 60 fps at 1440p in any game

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZCSMPS/?tag=pcpapi-20
Would this be a good thing to combo with a 1600?

>>61771748
>getting a 144hz monitor isnt a complete waste of money when you dont plan on playing beyond 60fps
you are the b8, my friend

>>61767747
Can I build a decent 1080 build for $2500 AUD? Including a monitor. Mainly game

>>61771784
who said anything about not wanting to play beyond 60 fps? the guy who had the original pcpp list clearly wants to play at higher refresh rates. and the gpu he wanted paired with the monitor he wanted would achieve just that. go back to wanking off over your thinkpad.

>>61771742
i just used it once and the updates still work without me doing anything

>>61771889
a 1070 wont ever touch 144fps on a 1440p monitor unless youre playing old games

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Hey all, this is my current build. Not included is the GPU. I have a Gigabyte Radeon RX 560 4gb I managed to snag for MSRP at a Micro Center. They're getting in a slow trickle of shipments but it could just be leftover inventory they were holding in their warehouses.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3MZmM8

Anyway to lower the price and improve performance? I have a wifi card and an external 2tb harddrive from my old pc I can transfer over as well as a bluray drive and some good speakers.

>>61771756
Pls respond. Wondering if a AIO would be overkill in general for a R5 1600.

>>61771993
>tfw youll never headpat a qt

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Looking for a z270 board with decent OCing that doesn't have a cover over the USB/display/etc ports. A lot of case fan connectors would be nice too. Any recommendations?

>>61771918
i didn't realize there was an absolute requirement to achieve 144 fps on a high refresh monitor...
anything above 60 whether it be 65 fps or 135 fps would still feel way smoother on a higher refresh monitor. technologies like freesync/gsync exist to stop the tearing or stuttering if you find it noticeable. if you don't find it noticeable then even if you pair a 1070 with a freesync 144hz monitor it would still feel smoother than playing on a 60hz screen when you're above 60 fps.

>>61771756
>Trash Tier AiO
No get a good air cooler for 50$~ and be done with it.

Just watched that one pc building tutorial video on YouTube by the Newegg guy.

Honestly, it doesn't seem very difficult at all. A lot of it just seems to be hooking things up correctly.

The most intimidating part to me seems to be plugging the individual parts into the motherboard. Snap even one of those fucking pins and you've wasted hundreds of dollars. Still, as long as I'm careful I should be alright.

How about you guys?

I got an i7-6850k for $299. Should I have gone Ryzen?

>>61772039
>i didn't realize there was an absolute requirement to achieve 144 fps on a high refresh monitor
there may as well be if you are willing to spend an absurd amount of money on a 1440p 144hz freesync monitor but not willing to spend an absurd amount of money for a top graphics card(s)
the graphics card should always take priority over other components when it comes to spending.

>>61772052
pretty hard to snap anything in there even when you try to snap them

>>61770701
Even if the Wraith Max shaves off 1 or 2 degrees the 212 is still the better buy because it is 60 dollars. For 60 dollars you might as well buy the H7 quad which has RGB support as well as better performance than either cooler.

>>61772069
>i7-6850K
>6 core, 12 thread
>3.6 GHz base clock
>unlocked

This is literally the specs of a Ryzen 5 1600X, which you can buy on Newegg for $230

Newegg lists the 6850K for $370

What the hell does that thing do that AMD's chip doesn't?

>>61772052
hooking everything up is a relatively simple affair; just about all the connectors have been sized and keyed appropriately so that it's hard to mix stuff up

>>61772169
light your house on fire

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>>61772026
Thanks for your input, making changes now-- wait a minute...

>>61772169
40 PCIe lanes and quad channel DDR4 were kind of the sellers for me.
I'm an FPGA dev and might look into using some PCIe evaluation boards at some point with a RAM disk.

How is my new waifu looking /g/

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/cyray7/saved/2wbNGX

Will be using it for 3d modelling, game design, programming, video editing, and light gaming

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>>61772026

>>61772250
that's probably my one real peeve with Ryzen so far
only 24 lanes?

>>61772262

Specific questions:

Is that monitor good

Is the asrock mobo good? I know everyone here shits on "assrock" but it has pretty solid specs for the price and 5 stars on amazon and newegg and actually hardcore overclocking said its decent

>>61772079
it's been said before but i'll say it again. his choice of gpu being vega, whether it's the 1070 equivalent model or the 1080 equivalent model will be able to utilize this monitor properly when required i.e. twitch shooters like overmeme or battlefield which benefit from high framerates. if he wants to play the standard AAA single player game like the upcoming assassins creed, the higher refresh monitor will still benefit him as he can play with an unlocked framerate on that freesync monitor and hence will get a nice smooth experience and the benefits of lower latency and input response which comes with higher framerates. it's a win-win situation and he clearly has the budget for it otherwise he wouldn't include it in his list.

also how is $500 absurd with todays pricing? paying $750 for that same monitor with gsync would be absurd pricing but what he'd be paying for it is absolutely normal for what he's getting.

>>61772262
>3D modelling
>Game design
>Video editing
>Buys TN panel
What did he mean by this?

>>61772302
>as he can play with an unlocked framerate on that freesync monitor
So long as the freesync monitor isn't complete garbage. Some freesync monitors only work within a certain range and they have a minimum FPS.

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help. I have a Cryorig M9i cooler, MSI Z270-A Pro mobo, and CM MasterBox 5 case. I bolted the mobo to the case and the cpu into the socket. now I'm trying to install the cooler. I put the "mounting pillars" through the holes in the backplate, and the backplate+pillars through the back of the mobo. I put the "mounting brackets" on top of the "pillars" and thumbscrews on top of those. problem is there's still nothing bolting the cooler's mounting assembly to the mobo, and the next step in the instructions only says to put the cooler on and screw it to the mounting brackets. there's also no other parts included in the box.

http://www.cryorig.com/inst_guide_dl.php?id=15

>>61772324
specifically, the backplate+pillars+brackets assembly slides freely in-out through the mobo holes, and the instructions seem to suggest that the brackets lie flat on the mobo, which isn't possible because there's capacitors in the way.

NVIDIA VOLTA WHEN ;_;

>>61767747
>Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
when exactly? next year?

>>61772420
When PoS kicks in. Whenever that happens.

>>61772346
>>61772324
Shouldn't the pillars hold the backplate in place? I know it did when i installed my 212.

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>>61772346
>>61772324
You fool, it's not compatible with the 1151

>>61770908
So if I were to try the RAM that's not on the QVL, and it turns out to not work with my mobo, can I get a refund from newegg?

>>61772504
Depends on how Jewish the Jewegg CS is feeling that day. I won't risk it tho.

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>>61772451
>>61772478
nevermind figured it out. turns out there's tolerance in the screws that mount the heatsink to the brackets, and that the pressure on the cpu is all that holds the assembly in place. that had to be the worst thermal poosmear in the history of pc building.

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>>61772521
Damn, that sucks. I can't find any good deals for parts listed on the QVL.

>>61772504
define "not work"

if it straight up doesn't work at ALL, you should be able to RMA for a proper refund

if it's the usual Ryzen problem which is downclocking below the stated RAM frequency, then enjoy your restocking fee deduction

ordered a r7 1700, aorus ax370 gaming 5, a seasonic 650w gold.

That's all going in my define r4 tomorrow.

Help, is this ram alright? Can't really find out myself as the msi site is terrible to navigate on mobile and my desktop is broken.

RAM: F4-2800C15S-8GVRB
Motherboard: MSI B350 PC MATE
CPU: Ryzen R3 1200
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mYWs3F

>>61770522
Can I has link to one of those youtubers please?

>>61772504
>>61772521
>>61772557
I just bought ram from newegg and ended up not needing it and they're letting me return it, ~$20 label and restocking fee, no biggie.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WMTfTH

My budget is about $900-$1000. Mostly play single player RPGs and MMOs.

>>61772699
>Ryzen CPU with X
>No CPU cooler
>2017 and buys a 1600x90 monitor
>He thinks he can find a 570 in stock
Broooo

Really quick question of opinion/experience etc.
In the current year of our lord for an AM4 board, which is the least likely to be chinkshit and die within 6 months / have issues of any kind?

ASrock, ASUS, Gigabyte or MSI? All around 125 dollarydoos for each in mATX.

>>61772793
You know all those 4 brands are Taiwanese right?

>>61772734
not him but 1300x comes with wraith stealth s'fine
>>61772793
I keep seeing problems with asrock's am4 boards, I'd say anything but that really. my am3 board is msi and it's lasted 3 years with no issues - for my new build I'm going asus tho.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D8HTkT

Does the MSI B350M GAMING PRO motherboard have wireless built-in? I live in a dorm and have no access to any ethernet cables

>>61772895
Why not just buy a wireless dongle?

>>61772699
I would DEFINITELY recommend bumping up to a higher speed of RAM, well worth the money if you can put a little extra $$ into your budget

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232546

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233834

These are both listed on Ryzen's QVL

>>61772699
>1300x + 570 + 8gb for a grand
>garbo psu
>buying windows when it's legitimately free
>1600 x 900

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KwDv9W

>>61772862
There's chink and then there's chink _shit_, a small distinction but it's there. Like a nasty ass ECS or Biostar board, that's Chinkshit. ASUS etc. is just chink in going with the racist undertones of this board.

>>61772734
1300X comes with one, it's the higher X's that don't

>>61772909
I have one but I'd rather not take up any of my available usb ports.

>>61772922
See:
>>61769454

>>61772895
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704133

>>61772865
So really just avoid ASrock? Been hearing bad shit about MSI but I guess that might be anecdotal evidence from their graphics cards and boards dying on people etc.

>>61772978
I thought people should be avoiding the asus am4 motherboards. Isn't asrock #1 for am4 right now? Gigabyte has some nice boards with dual bios that are pretty neat.

>>61773037
Asrock EOL a 4 month old AM4 board so really they are all shit at the moment.

>>61772978
ASRock used to be an absolute joke, but apparently they're doing better now
Still wouldn't buy a mobo from them though

>>61773047
which one? is it the taichi or the x370gaming/ac?

So all I'm getting from this is avoid ASrock and possibly MSI, Gigabyte first choice and ASUS second choice? I've got a Gigabyte board right now and a few months ago the damn dual-bios tripped and didn't flash properly, had to power cycle it like a coked up monkey to get it to flash again and re-update the bios (the base bios not working with my GPU, mind you. Had to take it out each time)

>>61773067
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6jlh6n/asrock_gaming_k4_x370_is_now_eol_as_stated_by/

It is not a cheap board either

How's this for budget gayming at 1080p?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WQhXwV

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>>61772978
that's my 2 cents yeah, so if I were you I'd be shopping for asus or gigabyte.

Just got my asus mobo for $82, full price was $130
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132988

>>61773083
You could save a lot of money from getting a bronze psu, smaller ssd (can buy another one later on down the line when required) and using your current monitor for a bit. All those savings can allow for a cpu/gpu upgrade

how safe is it to transport a watercooled pc?

>>61773077
that's what you all get for buying shit from a shit company

>>61773153
Custom loop?
Drain it and transport.
Not custom loop?
Just uninstall the AIO and transport it.

I'm looking to build a PC with a budget of $800. I'm want something that could run most popular games on high with with good frames like overwatch, pubg etc. I don't use many programs, just basic stuff like discord and I usually have a stream up in the background. Upgrading a few years down the line wouldn't be out of the question but I'm looking for something now that would work great for gaming. Currently play on 1920 x 1080 at 60hz. I live in Canada so all the parts from Canada would be optimal since the CAD to USD exchange rate is awful.

I'm open to suggestions or ideas for builds.

>>61773083
80+ Gold is well worth it, but you can save significantly if you're willing to give up modularity

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151136

Also also, please please please spend the extra $20 to go from a Ryzen 1200 to a 1300X

>>61773133
Don't have a current monitor to use sadly, budget is 900. I went cheaper on the parts you recommended and upgraded to a 1600, don't know much about psu's besides the basic classifications.
If I can only upgrade one of the cpu or gpu, which one should I go for?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KtHFD8

>>61773224
put your money into CPU
it's a lot easier to upgrade GPU later than CPU

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when will ram and gpu prices go down ?

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what are some games that actually put a 1080Ti to good use? I've been on an emulator binge and just realised that most of the games released this year are ps4 exclusives. the only demanding thing that comes to mind is minecraft shaders.

>>61773224
>If I can only upgrade one of the cpu or gpu, which one should I go for?

cpu definitely. if you get the 1600 it will last way longer than any gpu you'll be buying. since your budget is so tight i would personally recommend focusing more of your budget on key components such as gpu/cpu than luxuries like 2tb hdd's or ssd's as extra storage can be easily bought and installed later on down the line when you have more disposable income to spend on them whereas it's much less cost efficient to buy a low level cpu/gpu like the 1200/1050 ti and then selling them to upgrade after a few years.

it's obviously down to you but i'd try and squeeze at least a gtx 1060 (6gb, preferably) into that build

>>61773329
Warhammer TW and TW2 soon
Rise of the tomb raider
Xcom 2

>>61773274
When samsung/appleniggers stop buying new phones every 2 seconds, and when cryptoniggers finally realise that it's not cost effective and they're just being dicks.

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>>61767747
I think Linus might use macOS secretly at home, like many others why would he continue to use Windows after experiencing the superior macOS.

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>>61773329

>>61773349
His video editor should've been fired long ago.

>>61773071
no, avoid Asus and Asrock and Gigabyte. MSI and EVGA are the only acceptable mobos and video cards.

I had a gigabyte gts250 (lol) die after three years back in 2012.

So I built a Ryzen PC and can't figure out what the hell is wrong with it:

I have both a terrible wireless ET X-08 mouse I'm looking to replace (I have a Deathadder on it's way) and a casual wired HP mouse I don't know anything about with high dpi. When I set the wireless mouse to high dpi orrr use the HP mouse and attempt 180 turns on CS or OW, it lags behind a lot. Like really slowly adjusts to where I turned to.
I heard in another thread this can be a result of the mice not having the HZ to keep up with the speed but their symptoms were more like the tracking cutting out whereas with mine it just 'lags' behind.

I was told someone I know had an X-08 for portability too and it didn't lag for them. My specs are amd ryzen 1700x 8 core, 16 gig of ram and windows 10. gtx 1080, so I feel it really shouldn't be doing this. Built the living shit out of this thing and all of a sudden it drags behind and gets super laggy to aim with on high dpi? What? Can't tell if it's my gpu or the living meme Ryzen processors I bought into

>>61773530
>EVGA
>Video cards
If you want your VRAM to catch fire sure.

what's the difference between display port and mini display port other than physical size? any feature changes?

>>61773551
High DPI isn't everything. The computer isn't the problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAEb9a-dltk

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So I've gone from a AMD card to a Nvidia card.
Is there anything special I should do to clean out the old drivers?
I still have some AMD stuff after uninstalling the settings app that AMD comes with.

>>61773604
So 2400 DPI is just meant to lag behind like a blunt whore? I'll watch the youtube vid first I guess.

>>61772050
What air cooler would you recommend?

>>61773662
How hard do you plan to overclock your 1600?

>>61773681
I'd like to see if I can hit 4.0

>>61773604
reread. it still doesn't explain the issue. another thing is that it still lags slightly even at low dpi, 180s as Tracer are impossible

I don't get how an i5 can handle mouse inputs better than a Ryzen. Maybe I just have a fucked motherboard, I can't tell. I just wish I knew wtf was up

>>61773688
Cryorig H7's just gone on sale
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565

>>61773752
NIce. Thanks. Also, slightly related question CPU at that speed?

>>61773785
Wow I don't know what happened there, what I meant to ask is If I get a stable overclock, can I just leave the CPU at that speed?

>>61773804
if it's not causing crashes or overheats, then you can
but higher voltages can start to hurt your CPU if you keep them there for long periods of time
I've heard it's best not to long-term overclock past 1.4 volts

>>61769160
I admit, I fell for that meme. I have so much room in my case (that is just empty because water cooling is stupid).

>>61773804
Sure can. It lowers the lifetime of your CPU somewhat, but you'll have upgraded again by the time it dies anyway.
It's not like you run an overclock daily means your CPU is going to die in a year. Rather, it means it might last 9 years instead of 10 years.

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Why are 2011 socket CPU's still so fucking expensive? People still want $600 for a used 4960X and $1100 for a 6950X despite 1800X being brand new and performing better.

I was hoping Ryzen would tank the prices of older X series Intel chips :/

>>61773911
I do things like rent DVDs and CDs from the library. No disk drives would make me very sad. It's why I love the more classical cases.

>>61774051
Rarity. 2nd hand CPU are cheap. The stock for 2nd hand working motherboard isn't because they are limited.

So, if I order the Cryorig H7, how long do would I have to wait for a mounting kit for AM4?

is tempered glass in a case worth the extra? looking at the x31

>>61774202
If you email customer support they should be able to give you a good estimate

>>61774210
It won't scratch as easy as plastic windows, but that's about it

>>61774253
do plastic windows actually tend to scratch fast on cases?

Let's say I want to upgrade to Coffee Lake later this year. Would getting windows 10 be absolutely necessary? I have no plans to move from 7, so I'm wondering if it's worth it, telemetry removal aside.

>>61774293
Yes.

>>61774293
Not to say that they will get a scratch if you look at them, but they are significantly easier to scratch than the glass.

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>>61774293
Remember the good thing about plastic windows is they don't fucking shattered so this won't happen.

>>61774307
>>61774317
well if its anything like my phone the plasic cover window is pretty fucjed while my glass screen protector only has a single scratch.

>>61774340
is there a stoey to this? i imagine it wasnt just heat

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How long should I run prime95 to test an OC?
I'm testing my 6600k at 4.3ghz@auto :^)

Checked all day playing games and now running prime95 for 30 mins and voltage/temp hasn't gone above 1.20v/60C

So I guess I'll be capping at that because archive /g/ has scared me from saying auto is a sure way to fry your shit too.

Helping out a friend currently who is on a tight budget, he is looking to get a 1050 Ti but his current CPU (Athlong II X3 450) would bottleneck it. His mobo socket is AM3+, any cheap processor that could run the 1050 ti?

>>61774307
I've had mine for 5 years
not a scratch on it

its fucking cloudy as shit though I hate it beyond reason

>>61768423
>>61768371
He has an R9 390 which is about the same as a GTX 1070. Why suggest that?

He has to get at least a 1080 or it's a waste of money

>>61774367
Considering it'll probably be stable at 4.3 at stock voltage I wouldn't bother.

In my experience though you can run Prime95 for 5 hours, have no issues, then try and do some real tasks and get WHEA errors and crashes in 5 minutes. It's kind of useless.

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>>61774340

>>61774363
Like all things, there is good quality Tempered glass and bad quality tempered glass. Some of them can withstand a good knock, some can't. I imagine something knocked into the side and it just shattered.

>>61774363
it was either torqued the wrong way during install or something knocked into it

>>61774340
>glass cases
The only better way to say "I like computers and have way too much money on my hands" is to buy Mac shit

>>61774385
Yeah I guess, I'll leave it running another 30 mins and change test and see what happens.
EVO212 was a pretty good /g/ recommendation for a cheap cooler too, thanks broski.

>>61774439
There are cheap tempered glass cases. The p400s is a good example. It does TG right. Even has black borders around the glass to prevent finger print smudges. I like it cause I can look into the case and determine if I should open it up to clean it or not.

>>61774367
Also holy shit, didn't notice how low was the voltage during idle, is that ok?

>>61774492
>0.012V
surely that can't be right

>>61774549
Yeah, resetted that and the average since then has been 0.8. Magic.

>>61774439
whats wrong with wanting style? you're not trading function for form like you would a mac

tfw spent an embarrassing number of hours autistically looking at case reviews/specs and only managed to narrow down to 3.5 choices.

>>61774929
Nvidia made a GPU case?

>>61774941
kek

>>61774370
Have him get an FX 6300

>>61774370
>X3 450
it's BEYOND time for new hardware
he needs to start from scratch with a 1300X

>>61774929
Post shortlist and I'll tell you which one is least bad taste

is going from a 8350 to a 1200 a downgrade?

>>61775065
fractal design define c
phanteks evolv atx
anidees crystal cube (i-i think it's c-cute...)

maybe a be quiet dark base 900 but its a bit bulky.

>>61775065
p400
p400s
define s
100r

>>61775070
probably not, but spend the extra $20 to get a 1300X anyhow

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gz8cD8

Mainly game and stream, up for ideas on anything but mainly want help with a case not interested in anything too fancy

>>61774370
>>61774961
Seconding this

>>61775091
is the 1300x that much better

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I don't know if I should ask this here or in /sqg/ but i want to build my own pc when the prices go back to normal, anyway I havr this old desktop just sitting in the attic and decided to gut it like a fish so I csn practice s bit assemblig the pc applying thermal paste and so on before I spend hundreds of dollars and fuck it up. Can you help me remove an old AMD socket A cooler

>>61767747
wtf i love linus now

>>61775101
1080tis are occasionally in the 900s if you wait. do you really need atx if you getting one gpu?

best 1080 ti ?

>>61775214
what a waste of time. you dont need practice to build a pc, it gets easy every year.

>>61775237
the differences are mostly cosmetic other than the size of the heat sink and number of fans
i hear reference cards manage heat better if you plan on doing sli

>>61775237
I have posted this time and time again this might as well be a canned replied.

All 1080ti variants run within 5% of each other and that difference is down to silicon lottery rather than the board partner themselves. So the only difference is really thermals, features and noise, all which can be found online.

A quick tl;dr if you are too lazy to go read reviews.
Premium 1080ti = EVGA and Strix, best coolers, most features (extra fan headers), least noisy fans.

Outside of that the Aurous and Gaming X are the best of the normal bunch.

Everything else is I don't give a fuck but it is a 1080ti tier.

>>61775230
where can you find them for that cheap? I'm happy to wait... Good pick up, No I don't

>>61775237
They all do 2000Mhz, so if all you care about is speed pick the cheapest one. If you care about noise and thermals, MSI Gaming, Asus Strix and Gigabyte Aorus are best.

Should I get the H7 or pay a bit more and get the H5 Universal?

>>61775340
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/317703

and non ti was at $700 last week. wait a bit. though honestly i dont see the point in a ti, or 1080. just spend half and buy a new gpu in 4 years

>>61775371
Most of them don't do 2000mhz stable. Most of them will boost to 2000mhz but downlock to 1900~mhz after like 30 to 40 minutes of gaming as thermals climb.

Source: I own a 1080ti

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help. black screen after bios splash when booting to Win10, and black screen on uvesafb init when booting Arch memeix. both storage drives are from the old rig. I just built this rig out of new parts and reused the graphics card and drives.

mobo MSI Z270-A PRO
Intel i3-7350k
generic ram from ebay
EVGA GTX 660

>>61775448
Try entering the bios?

>>61775065
>>61775079
>tfw left hanging

>>61775432
They do technically do 2000Mhz stable, it's just retarded GPUBoost 3.0 downclocks it because its retarded. If you run it on max fans and it's a decent cooler it should stay at 2000Mhz or above.

Source: I own a 1080ti.

Firstly, CHRIST, out of any image you could have used it's that defuq one from Linus I literally just saw a few hours ago and cannot look at him the same way anymore. The odds. Am I being spied on?

Secondly and too the point, how much ram is enough? Like, what's the standard today? And What's the most ram you've seen in one cartridge? If that's what they're called.

>>61775490
The trade off isn't worth it desu.
I have the 1080ti strix and max fan is very loud and noisy and the 100mhz difference is what? 1-2 FPS difference in 144hz?

>>61775461
the bios works but I can't get much farther. I tried switching to integrated graphics and it doesn't make a difference.

specifically, the monitor detects signal but the graphics signal is completely black.

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Someone help me pick one.

Putting a 7700k in it and I want to OC it to 4.8.

>>61775410
H7 is on sale, go for it

>>61775507
Of course it's not worth it, I'm just saying it'll do it. But yeah, say it drops from 2000 to 1950, that's like a 2.5% drop, it won't translate to a 2.5% drop in FPS regardless. The Pascal architecture is fucky anyway and core clocks are pretty meaningless, even the people who do that power mod and get clocks above 2100, it doesn't get them any FPS improvement. Nvidia pretty much gimped the card to one performance level. My Aorus runs at 1936 out of the box event though it's meant to only be like 1500.

>>61775519
msi z270 gayming plus

I want to get on the ultrawidescreen meme bandwagon.

Problem is the price of some of these panels is ridiculous as they are all tiered towards "gamers"

I currently have a 27 inch 1440p 16:9 monitor.

If I go for a 35 inch 1080p 21:9 will I regret it? I sit about 80cm away from my monitor and for it to be considered 'retina' this monitor should be 100cm away.

The other option is paying a few hundred dollars more for a 1440p ultrawide panel.

>>61775494
DDR4 comes in up to 16GB a stick, at least for the moment
Unless you're running some impressively intensive shit, 2x sticks of 8 GB should be enough for now and the forseeable future

>>61775537
FPS improvement is always hard to quantify anyway because games make use of mem clock and core clock differently. However in benchmarks, you will see an increase in score if your core clock is set higher. Plus I am sure since all the cards are set to one performance level, the binning of the cards in overclock and non clock means even more.

>>61775569
Ultrawide is a meme and only hurts your neck.

>>61775461
>>61775448
nevermind. some setting I changed in the BIOS before booting the first time broke it, and loading defaults worked to fix it.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bqps3F
Just put this together finally. Everything marked $0 are parts I brought over from my previous system. Didn't edit the final price to what I paid but the grand total is less than that.

The things you can afford when you move back in with mommy after a horrific breakup. Now I get all I tendies I want while playing fallout 4 and doom. Who needs sex?

>>61775685
Ryzen 1700 + B350 is better

>>61775575
Got a 1080ti with an XB271HK so, 4k and all dat sh8

>>61775685
Only complaint is that my motherboard doesn't like my ram. I can't run it at advertised speeds so I had to clock it down a little.

>>61775689
Nigger the only thing I want is to play games on this thing. 1440p monitor with a 144hz refresh rate is what I want to take advantage of. Ryzen is a great chip, but they still can't beat Intel in gayming yet.

hello /g/

which one of these monitors would be best for gaming, 3d modeling, video editing, mixed usage, etc.

http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-pavilion-25xw-25-inch-ips-led-backlit-monitor

https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/VZ249H/specifications/

http://www.lg.com/au/it-monitors/lg-24MP68VQ

thanks

>>61775607
How so?

I dont think you really need to twist your head to see the sides.. i dont have eagle vision

>>61775717
>gayman

Get a 1600 then

hey /pcbg/ so i got a pretty good sillicon lottery with my r5 1600 and i got it stable at
3.9ghz 1.4v on stock cooler with max temps being 72celcius.
During single thread stress however i see my cpu 0(first thread) usage being 100%
but dropping 2-3% for very few moments dropping my scores slightly.
(i'm using the cpu-z bench for this)
Considering my temps are good is it because i've set the voltage at 1.4v?
Would it be safe to push a little more? How much should i put it?

>>61772015
Yea. Stock cooler is fantastic and can handle a decent overclovk.

R7 1700 + GTX960
Should I really bother with memory clock? I only play at 60fps and I barely see benchmark showing <60fps (1080p, not 4K). So I don't really care about 100->108fps or 80->92fps gain, would care if they were 52->60fps.
Has anyone here tested/saw this kinda of setting? My options are basically;
>1x 8GB (~$50 less)
>2x4GB 3200 (~$30 less)
>2x8GB 2666 (base)
>2x8GB 3200 (~$30 more)

>>61776074
RAM isn't going to help you if your FPS drops is due to GPU bottle neck which with a 960 is going to be 99% of the time.

>>61775717
i got a r5 1600 @4ghz and highest aftermarket oc gtx 1080(zotac amp extreme) for 1440p 144hz, the fps are depended by the cpu, most games atm don't make great use of the extra core/threads, performance wise on games that are 4c/4t utilized expect performance on par with an overclocked 7600k with the difference that anything else you'll be running won't affect your gaming performance at all while the 7600k will only pass an overclocked r5 1600 if you have absolutely nothing else using cpu resources because it gets 100% usage when running newer games. Your other option is getting a 7700k and spending alot of extra money for around 20(if you buy expensive aio to oc near 5ghz) extra fps. If you wanted to invest in expensive cooling anyways you could grab a 7700k just keep in mind that its on a dead platform considering that intel will no longer make cpu's for z270 motherboards but at least at the moment you'll have great fps, however considering the i7 7700k is generally the kind of option i'd recommend to someone who doesn't care much about overspending you could as well as move to the new platform and get i7 7740k for around 150$ extra cost, you could probably get a 5ghz overclock with an aio priced around 100$ and with a 1080ti you'd get that near 144hz performance on 1440p ultra settings. As for me i get 90-100fps on most games with turning off some pointless demanding placebo settings and even if i turn those on, on the most cutting edge games i still don't drop bellow 60fps, however keep in mind all cpus are different and i got lucky.
ps ram is running at 3200mhz 2t 16-18-18-36 timings

>>61776087
yeah sure nice meme

>>61776074
ask yourself if you really need a r7 1700 because r5 1600 is much better value and with the money you save you can get a much better gpu.

>>61776097
Kill yourself moron. If your bottleneck is in your CPU please share how have faster CPU is going to give your increase in FPS performance.

Fucking /v/ with their moronic thinking in here again.

>>61776088
tl;dr

>>61776101
already have 960, not going to upgrade 'til vega as rx580 is impossible right now
r7 1700 comes with a free ssd where i'm going to buy, so it's a plus (same price as 1600+ssd)

>>61776109
yeah, sure m8
there is no option to lower graphic settings, right?
kys retard

>>61776074
2x8 GB definitely, and I would spring for at least 2933/3000 RAM

>>61776122
>not going to upgrade 'til vega
you have to ride the prices until you judge a price drop in a gpu is worth going for, and when you do decide, do not hesitate
somebody posted newegg shit on here once with 580s and 570s
in 5 minutes that shit was gone

>>61776122
>there is no option to lower graphic settings, right?
And what? What setting are you going to lower to that will somehow bottleneck a 1700. A fucking 1700 with 2133mhz ram will run whatever shit game you can throw at it because it will never reach full potential so long as you are using a 960. Are you so fucking thick you cannot comprehend how CPU and GPU work?

>>61776119
if you don't care about how much you spend and want 1440p 144hz on ultra i7 7700k gtx 1080ti is the way to go, you could even go to the new platform with i7 7740k.
Otherwise r5 1600 gtx 1080 is another great combo that'll give you 90-100 fps if you spend some time dropping placebo settings.

>>61776134
if GPU = 90% to 100%, there is a GPU bottleneck
if CPU = 90% to 100%, there is a CPU bottleneck
that about sum it up?

>>61776142
What game and setting are you going to bottleneck a 1700 before a 960. Please share. I wanna see how blistering stupid you can get.

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>>61776138
>i7 7740k.
dropped
literally dropped
ultra right now is meaningless when it comes to AAA console ported shit, because it barely makes any difference between high setting vs ultra setting thanks to lazy fucking developers and their piss poor optimizations on even more piss poor AMD shit custom APUs that runs like a grandma

>>61776131
They're still sold in Japan, I can get it but it's going to be a little bit costy
But I will soon enough at the $200-250 price range
Still, my doubt persists as by now I only really care about 60fps.

>>61776142
You clearly don't know how to interpret a simple line, holy shit. Let me explain it again to you, okay?
>Subject: Memory Clock
> I only play at 60fps and I barely see benchmark showing <60fps (1080p, not 4K). So I don't really care about 100->108fps or 80->92fps gain, would care if they were 52->60fps.
If [GPU] runs [game] in [ultra] at 52fps at 2133Mhz would I benefit from the same gross gain (as 100->108) using 3200Mhz?
Over 60fps min/avg is fucking nothing to me

>>61776148
you stupid retard, I'm not the fucking faggot you were replying to, I'm asking you if these are indicators of a bottleneck in ANY game
because I've seen Intel shit hit 100% sweating when fucking Ryzen is giggling like a little girl at 50%

>>61775717
>tfw buying an mg279q next month
>have gtx 1070
>want the absolute best fps possible but also like the fact ryzen offers more for less

Deciding between 7700k and ryzen is harder than most people think

>>61776150
Well i never said i7 7740k is a good option value wise but if we were talking about getting the maximum possible performance disregarding pricing that is still the way to go strictly for games.
I also mentioned about ultra being mainly placebo and how with r5 1600 gtx 1080 and turning off placebo settings you can get 90-100 stable fps at 1440p.
You don't need to get mad bro we're on the same page on this i just acknowledge that the original anon would prefer an explanation in his language.

>>61776164
>If [GPU] runs [game] in [ultra] at 52fps at 2133Mhz would I benefit from the same gross gain (as 100->108) using 3200Mhz?

which is more important: faster RAM frequency, or tighter timings?

>>61776184
>You don't need to get mad bro
I ain't mad, faggot
my fingers have tourette syndrome and just type crap like OP loves cock

>>61776198
both, and somebody stop google giving me spanish soap opera word captchas

>>61776164
>If [GPU] runs [game] in [ultra] at 52fps at 2133Mhz would I benefit from the same gross gain (as 100->108) using 3200Mhz?
Depends. What is the bottleneck? If the bottleneck is the GPU, it doesn't matter what RAM speed you have.

>>61776178
considering you already have a gtx 1070 i'd say r5 1600 is an excelent choice considering you're not getting the absolute best fps possible if you're being conservative with your gpu(at least not at high settings)
Simply put, you can pay 210+100+145 for cpu-mobo-ram2x8gb@3200mhz that runs at that speed if you pick ryzen otherwise you can pay 340+150+145+100 for the 7700k considering you'll need a good aio to even get that extra (gaming) performance over r5 1600 considering people been getting these at 3.9ghz on stock.

>>61776178
MG279Q is freesync.
You want the kikesync version.

>tfw you've replied to a dozen of anons questions yet nobody ever answers your question because it is more complex than the usual questions /v/ posters have.
So, is this just the state of /g/ now?

>>61776233
Which?

>>61776242
this
>>61775951

>>61775951
>>61776250
You want to know why your CPU some dipped in usage? Or you want to know how far you can push it?

For how far you can push it simply look up the specs of a 1600 and see what the safe operating temps and voltage it. Never exceed those and slowly creep towards them till the system is unstable.

>>61776209
I know what you saying, but GPU is going to cap 99% load in [ultra] because there is no frame limit, at all times.
yet, there is a clearly benefit on frame rate, in every single benchmark
what i didn't see is, does this pattern occurs when <=60fps?

there is no cpu/gpu bottleneck here
cpu is fine
gpu is doing their job the fastest as they can (no frame limit)

>>61776215
Yeah I'll probably end up going for the ryzen platform but I'll wait till black Friday sales to make a decision. My 4 year old i5 should do for now I guess.

>>61776216
I don't care for variable refresh. I just wanted a good quality IPS 1440p 144hz monitor. The freesync capabilities on that monitor is pretty crap too since it's limited to 30-90hz so even if I were to change to a rx Vega it would be pointless on than monitor as you lose like 50hz. I'd still end up playing without freesync.

>>61775951
I wouldn't push the voltage over 1.4
Have you tried 3950MHz and not found it stable?

>>61775951
I wouldn't go beyond 1.3v.
Firsts 3.7Ghz 1.2-.25v is easy
3.8Ghz 1.25-1.3v is fine
The last 200Mhz is just 1.4v unstable shit
Just try 1.3-1.35v at 3.9Ghz if it doesn't stable, then stick as the lowest voltage you can at 3.8Ghz.

>>61776274
That is not how it works. In almost all practical scenarios for gaming something is going to bottleneck first. Your GPU or your CPU (given unlimited frame limit).

>>61776275
The Gsync tax between MG279Q and PG279Q isn't that big iirc.

>>61776267
I know all that information already, what i wanna know is what is causing my cpu usage drops
on single thread bench that results to slightly worse scores.
I allowed the voltage to go a little higher but there was 0 difference than before.
Could the cpu thermal throttle on single thread bench at 67-70 Celcius?
Maybe when only one thread is at 100% usage it actually hits higher temps than it displays?
I have both the amd ryzen master and speccy running and they display the same temps.

>>61776280
I've tried 4ghz and my system crashed probably because my b350 mobo can't handle that overclock. My voltage never goes over 1.4v
>>61776289
Everyone else says 1.4v is the safe as well as amd themselves. Do you have a source that proves 1.4v being a bad voltage? My system has been running pretty smoothly on it for the past week.
I'm gonna try to downvolt now wish me luck.

>>61776314
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5xrwf7/ryzen_cpu_max_temperatures/
According to reddit the system starts to be unstable once it reaches 75 degrees. Have you tried benching at a lower clocks and making sure that usage is 100% constant? Might be an issue with the program you use or other stuff.

>>61776312
It's a £200 difference in the UK. £499 Vs £699. Also the pg279q gsync, despite having a better variable refresh range and the ability to OC to 165hz, has worse features based on what I've seen. The pg279q only comes with one display port and one hdmi whereas the mg279q has 2 display ports and 2 hdmi. Better for booking up consoles and all that.

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>>61776379
>>61776379
>>61776379

NEW

>>61776381
>booking

Hooking *

>>61768532
yes. christ that video. cant look at him the same way

>>61769038
Looks pretty nice if you're not gaming