>tfw hackintosh works better, more stable that Linux

it also looks better

>>61759000
>more stable that Linux
What kind of shit-tier distro were you running?

>tfw you realize linux is internally plagued with {{{systemd}}}
i think i should just bite the bullet and switch to osx

>>61759036
devuan

>>61759000
Nine thousand of true

>>61759000
you have to use homebrew though which is total trash software.e

>>61759027
Antegros. It failed at booting after i tried to install it on zfs partitions.

>>61759068
How is it thrash, kiddo?

>>61759045
you can pretend its not there but a ton of packages depend on it. the autists are dividing an already small community
systemd vs numerous retarded packages
wayland vs x11
musl vs glibc

linux was supposed to be THE operating system. this is what will kill it. time to pack my bags and move to os x

>>61759123
At least osx runs decently on a t420.

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>>61759000
>tfw hackintosh thinkpad beats a macbook pro in benches thanks to apple(tm) throttling

>>61759000
wtf man this is illegal

>>61759073
Arch-based distros are for people who like to tinker. If you don't want some regular maintenance for fun, use something like Ubuntu, Fedora, or their derivatives. Maybe Centos

Can you maximize that window?

>>61759391
There's an app for that.

>>61759073
try some debian shit

>>61759000
>tfw hackintosh doesnt work at all on many common hardware configurations

>>61759073
Use Arch Anywhere, its pure arch and you can choose what packages and apps you want at installation.

>>61759192
Fucking SV

>>61759036
systemd is based on launchd...

>>61759000
>hackintosh
are not you one of those freecuck pleb who hating on mac threads? but deep inside you want to own one
this is why i hate poorfag freecucks

>>61759755
Or you can just fucking install arch

>>61759000
How do you get that faggot version?
Firefox ftp?

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>>61759073
>SUSHI IS DISGUSTING
>what sushi are you eating
>walmart, it was GROSS.

>>61759000
>install osx on leetbook
>objectively shittier than opensuse
Hmmm...

>>61759000
Nice op did you do vanilla or use tony fag tools

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>>61759000
Blocks your path.
Also """hackintosh""" is everything but stable and have literally zero support.

>>61759073
>linux babby too stupid to install Arch turns out to be retarded
who would expect this crazy turn of events

>>61760245
Werks in my machine™

>>61760370
That's literally it.

Have the correct hardware, great! Buy something not supported, get fucked.

All Hackintosh allows is for you to get locked into a certain subset of hardware.

>>61760471
>You have to buy a PC with an intel processor that didn't came out 13 minutes ago

>Oh my god that's like, 1 computer or 2 out there really

>>61760612
>CPU is the only hardware you need to be concerned about!

>>61759000
more stabler*

>>61760688
not him but most mobos are fine unless you buy super gaymen shit, nvidia cards work fine, most amd cards work fine

>>61759073
isn't zfs made for BSD stuff,
Why zfs and not betterfs ?

>>61759000
Sadly Mac OS doesn't support the wireless card of my laptop so I have to stick to shitsux.

>>61760786
just buy a compatible one and replace yours, they're like $15

>>61760778
It's made for solaris. Maybe autism.

>>61760778
>isn't zfs made for BSD stuff,
Solaris. From what I'm told, ZFS on *BSD and Linux are rather tacked on.

>>61760777
Except it isn't and most people would use it on a notebook.

>>61759073
>ZFS.

Really?

>>61760831
so just buy notebook that supports it fine problem solved

>>61760245
Support is like any linux distro: community driven

everything is better and more stable than linux. even TempleOS.

>Install and distrohop through Kubuntu, openSUSE, Fedora and Manjaro
>The one that everyone says is shit and unstable (Manjaro) is the only one that lets me open magnet links, play videos after installing mpv right away and use some implementation of Google Drive that doesn't take 13 fucking minutes to open a single folder
>Still crashing left and right, panels restarting whenever I want to do anything that might change them
>Have to deal with gtk applications half of the time not looking like qt ones, no matter what I do
>You either get software that's so simple you can maybe do 2 or 3 things (geary) or have 70 fucking menus with 2600 different options (Kmail)
>Font rendering shit by default
>Not a single decent player that also has a GUI
>Composition ruining performance, different compositors and jerryrigging shit to make them work well
>Not a single good graphic design application (Krita is the least worst and it's still pretty pathetic)
>Mouse feeling like trash even after enabling a flat acceleration profile
>Want to make my dualshock 3 with some native linux games? Better put up with xboxdrv and constantly connecting/disconnecting the gamepad until it fucking works, also forget about bluetooth altogether

>Switch back to hackintosh
>Put 3 files in folders (native audio/power management/hfs)
>Everything works
>No tearing, no shitty performance with its compositor, font rendering is just ok
>No gamepad issues
>All I have to do with my mouse is download exactmouse and there's 0 acceleration or input lag
>Cog player fork is just right
>The best frontend for mpv, IINA
>Applications in general look consistent
>Google drive working flawlessly

>>61760245
Biggest lie ever.

I've had a Hackintosh for over a year and use it professional with ZERO fucking issues.

Just do it right and use approved hardware and you're good to go.

Just be smart about it and install vanilla and inject kexts from the EFI partition and don't use gay shit like MultiBeast from TonyMacFag.

>>61760843
>red hat
>community support
It's not cheap but still better support than wangblows do for money.

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>>61760940
>Hackintosh
>professional
Just buy a fucking mac.

All software seems stable if you don't do anything productive with it. Hackintoshing is inherently unreliable because it tries to fix anti-patterns in software development (forced OS vendor lock to the point of bullying Oracle into removing support from Virtualbox) with more anti-patterns. MacOS is intentionally broken, not unintentionally, and you just can't work around that without sacrificing all reasonable guarantees of reliability.

If these people tried submitting Linux kernel patches, they'd get yelled at by Torvalds.

>>61760989
I had a 12core Cheesegrater but single core performance got slow.

Also I wanted to do VR and put a GTX1080 in there (which at the time wasn't supported under macOS).

And 2013 Mac Pro is useless.

So no thanks, m8, I'm pretty happy with my MBP + Hackintosh combo :^)

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>>61760940
what this anon said

>>61759000
huh I haven't ran a hackintosh since 2006 actually, what hardware are you running on?

It could crash back then too, but it was absolutely possible. Of 2/3 boxes I had I got it running

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>>61761000
Fucking bullshit m8. I've been pushing my Hackintosh really hard for over a year with ZERO issues.

macOS doesn't really have "drivers" as it works right out of the box. The only things that are funky are audio kexts, LAN/Wifi and GPU. That's it.

If you get approved hardware you're pretty much set.

It's literally the only other mainstream OS with mainstream software still being developed (ie Adobe, etc).

Now go fuck yourself for spreading useless info.

>>61760940
The non-multibeast method is not simple but you're right, it's pretty stable. I've been using Sierra since september and through updates I haven't had issues like my sound crapping itself or anything similar. Heck I could even use night shift when it came out, which I know gives some trouble in my X220 but fortunately it's easy as piss to fix.

The thing is, if you can use a linux distro on a regular basis you shouldn't have issues with fucking hackintosh nowadays. Unless you just copypaste the Arch wiki twice over every fucking time you have a problem, that is.

>>61761007
>2013 Mac Pro is useless
Opinion discarded.

>>61761039
It's actually pretty simple to do Vanilla installs.

If you need Wifi/BT (for Handoff with iOS devices) just get a OOB card thats like $60 and no need for kexts.

Now that's out of the way, the only thing left is audio and you can use AppleALC which is so easy to set up, it's not even funny.

Now audio is out of the way, the only thing left is FakeSMC and maybe InteliMausi kext for your LAN.

Now those two are out of the way, the only thing left is your nVidia WebDrivers (AMD works out of the box, depending on model).

Now you're set.

Loonix is fucking garbage.

The only thing closest to Loonix that has mainstream software support is macOS.

If you despise Windows, but you need mainstream software like Photoshop, Premiere Pro, etc., then you need a Hackintosh.

>>61761043
It's overpriced, desu.

The GPUs are old as fuck too.

>>61761038
>macOS doesn't really have "drivers" as it works right out of the box.
I thought we were on /g/.

>>61760989
>Buy dated or expensive hardware
>Or buy proper hardware that is 100% compatible with hackintosh and have it work essentially the same way except for the bootloader, including all that crap like Messages and FaceTime

No contest. The only argument there is with laptops, to be honest. Fuck, now there's native support for NVMe and APFS works with third party drives just fine too with 10.13, so I don't even see the point.

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>>61759000
Known issues for my current rig (x201):

>Using VoodooHDA, It cannot switch between internal speaker and external earphone automatically. you need to go to System Preferences->Sound to select the device you want to use.

Using patched AppleHDA, external MIC does not work when it plugs in. only internal MIC works. - see if this patched Applehda works for your model. You'll need to add HDAEnalber=Yes to boot.plist.
>USB does not work after sleep - look above for a work-around/cheap fix

>>61761087
Nigga what?

>>61761039
actually it's not even that hard if you have a haswell or later cpu, I spent more time virtualizing macos and making the usb then installing the os itself
gpu was somehow problematic but that's because I have an amd card

>>61761087
made me kek

>>61761089
Also Vega works Out of the Box in 10.13.

So does the RX580/480 without an iGPU helper.

It's the perfect time for a Hackintosh, desu.

>>61759000
>works better, more stable

it makes no sense why you would do this, go like that on the internet to tell lies to people

>>61761087
what are you even talking about?

>>61761093
>Using VoodooHDA

You need to nuke that install and start over and do it right via Vanilla method.

>>61761038
What are you talking about, it does have drivers. It's just bundled with them. There's even downloadable drivers for Nvidia cards.

>>61761098
kexts are drivers you fucking idiot

Kernel EXTenSions

'drivers' is the windows word

and on linux you would call them modules.

now fuck off.

>>61761119
Everything has drivers.

An OS doesn't not have drivers just because you decide it. If you bake all the drivers you need into your Linux kernel it doesn't make your system any more "driverless".

Basically, he should just fuck off.

>>61761087
>>61761122
what he meant is that you don't have to download and install programs to make things work like you would do on windows
he even used quotation marks holy fuck

>>61761110
There are shills for everything on /g/. Funnily only Linux fags are after windows users. Everybody else fights against Linux.

>>61761141
What I'm saying is, it works out of the box and you don't need to install any shitty drivers like chipset, etc.

kexts are injected on the fly from the fucking EFI partition, so technically you're not "installing" drivers from any setup programs.

Now go suck a cuck you pedantic cuck.

>>61761163
This, desu.

/g/ are a bunch of fags trying to belittle every little thing because of re: autism. They know exactly what I meant.

>>61759073
That's what you get for listening to the morons on here claiming Manjaro is a crippled distro. I've tried to install Antergos multiple times with no success, yet Manjaro KDE and Manjaro Gnome (goddamn it's gorgeous) have installed with no issue.

>>61761073
I need to get through that process. I'm already in hackintosh but I used multibeast for this shit, however it'd be neat to make a normal USB installer the way you're describing instead of going through that tool again.

>>61761170
Genkernel doesn't means you don't need drivers.

>>61761170
yes welcome to how unix/linux work, i welcome you into 1990's

you do need to chipset kexts for some motherboards and such

injecting is loading a module btw

>>61761208
or you could just stop being a fucking child and actually install arch instead of using some weird looking knockoffs
seriously, is this even /g/ anymore?

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>>61761239
>B-but loonix is unstable

>>61761211
Sorry, unibeast. *beast, whatever. They have like 20 tools that are called beast, I don't know why. The webside says "Tonymac", what the fuck does "Tony" have to do with "beast" huh

>>61761280
dont use tonyfaggot tools do it vanilla way where you install kexts to your efi like white man

>>61761272
I don't think that was what he was trying to imply anon.

>>61761163
Also a lie.

When will you stop lying?

>>61761288
Just wondering though, aside from learning how to do it yourself, what's the real difference?

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>>61759000
>it also works on 80% less systems because no drivers

MacOS didn't even boot, while every Linux distro I used worked perfectly.

>>61759755
> using an Arch install helper
> being this retarded

>>61761325
vanilla hackintosh keeps your system clean and kexts, patches etc in efi

>>61761208
>Manjaro

ugly, bloated shit

>>61761333
>I don't know how to change a setting on my BIOS

>>61761360
>he have to change bios settings to use an illegal os

>>61761314
care to explain how is that a lie?

>>61761375
>I don't know how to adjust a setting on my BIOS

>>61761387
>still using linux without problem
Just another shill thread.

>>61761375
>he lives in country where ToS have any legal value

SHART IN MART

>>61761396
Me on the left.

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I was *just* talking about making a Hackintosh last night.

I'm retiring a bunch of old HP Form Factors with Core2 duo CPUs, 4gb RAM and rather large drives (1tb, before we migrated to Office 365). I was trying to think of something cool to do with them, and this crossed my mind. Luckily for me, he works at Apple and said the same spiel I read ITT about approved hardware "n-das it". Unfortunately, I don't know where to begin.

Can anyone recommend tutorials or resources? Is hackintosh.com what I should be going by?

>>61761382
https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=macos+drivers

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>>61759000
>works better
>has so little MB support most sections are blank
DUDE I LOVE ALL THIS SUPPORT
LMAO

>>61761418
And another question that is probably asked a million times over, but can I use Xcode without issues in Hackintosh?

>>61761418
dont use tonyfaggot tools search google for "vanilla hackintosh"

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>>61761461
Current state of hackintosh fags.

>>61761472
yes

>>61759073
>I ran some hacky Arch installer script and it didn't work right!
No shit. There's a reason everyone who develops arch tells you to not use any of these. I say this as an Arch daily driver.

Arch ships more "vanilla" packages than other distros, this means less shit is done to make them just plug and play with your weird non standard configs. You adding Antergos (i.e. a glorified install script and configs) is going to do nothing more than add numerous headaches.

Run an actual stable distro (i.e. Debian) if you're not going to take the time to actually configure your shit.

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>>61759000
NO
FUCKING
SUPPORT

>>61761449
so you want to argue about semantics
>>61761461
>>61761503
google your mobo+hackintosh, if someone made it then it's possible

>>61761500
>Roughly 2 years ago
>Try installing Nemo on XFCE (because fuck you, that's why)
>Try it on Xubuntu with plugins, have no problems
>Try it on Fedora with plugins, no problems
>Try it on Arch
>Look for plugins on the AUR
>"nigga this shit don't work well"
>Still try to install just for colored folders
>Not opening, see what's wrong
>Half assed fix, let's go put that terminal on Nemo
>Oops this one doesn't work either

>>61761038
No one cares how your box doesn't explode while browsing Facebook.

I'm all for desecrating the holy temple of hipster worship and depriving Apple of money. If people really want to make Hackintosh a thing that badly, they're welcome to try. But you are absolutely retarded if you think it's even remotely as reliable as a decent GNU/Linux distro, even a rolling release one. It's not comparable.

>>61761543
i've had less issues with hackintosh than i ever had with linux

>>61761449
>co.jp
retarded weeb kys

>>61761503
Oh hey, I also go on dailymotion for the newest videos that never come out at all!

>>61761543
you're absolutely retarded if you have never tried or made a hackintosh and you think your opinions are more qualified than anyone who has

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>>61759000
>tfw wanted to get OS X on my PC because I have IPhone
>AMD CPU
>MSI A68HM
>MB nobody seems to have heard of
>AMD GPU

I guess I can go fuck myself. IPhone support on Arch and ITunes in a VM is good enough

>>61761543
>Remotely as reliable
You know what I call reliable? Something that works for 8+ months the same way without giving any troubles.

I haven't had -one- distro like that. Let alone Arch linux like some of the turbohipsters around here claim. That's the mother of unreliability, when updating a single fucking package can make Pacman not work anymore. What the fuck is that? What kind of joke OS is that?

I still try and try, after many years, to switch to Linux. I had a hell of a month trying to figure out why I had a slight microstutter with any application that was not mpv and had anything in motion, so for instance, scrolling on Chromium (which by the way on linux requires overriding software rendering... what the heck?) or Firefox. Had only figured it out on the KDE forums by some random fat ass with a youtube channel and 10 posts on that forum. Some random shit right there, if it's reliable I own half of Google.

>>61761527
>so you want to argue about semantics
It's not semantics.
Drivers exist for OSX. If you buy some hardware for your Mac you may have to install software to use it, which will probably include drivers.

Or are you talking about how OSX comes with a bunch of drivers? Windows does too. Windows comes with tons of drivers, and even better, chances are if you have hardware which doesn't have the proper driver with Windows, you can at least boot the OS and then get/install the proper driver.

I honestly don't understand why you are bragging about the limited selection of drivers that comes with OSX.

>>61761642
If newer Intel CPUs weren't so trashy I'd recommend Intel next time. I know that I'm going to have to look very hard next time I upgrade.

>>61761239
Hey, how about you and your stupid fucking Arch meme both go and fuck off?

>>61761680
>I haven't had -one- distro like that.
Should've tried Debian stable then.

I've had uptimes longer than 8 months.

>>61761340
Oh christ, I'm not an autist that needs the most minimal install possible. How many good boy points do you get for maintaining your Arch installation?

>>61761695
I'm not saying that macos doesn't need drivers, the other anon said it and I was trying to explain what he actually meant.
Windows 7 has literally no support for drivers, not even wifi cards. 10 is better but you still need to do a lot of updates on a fresh install (that include drivers too) so it's not the same.

Nobody is bragging and of course you should expect more work to get a hackintosh to run perfectly the first time you install it, then it's just a matter of copying kext and updating them. But then you'll won't have to fight with windows anymore.

>>61761695
The difference there is that in most cases, bundled Windows drivers are trash which is why 10 downloads the official ones.

In OSX except for nvidia most drivers bundled are generally fine and chances are, if there's no bundled driver, there's no driver period. So you have less hardware support. Thing is, that problem plagues mostly dedicated cards (like network/sound cards), but if you use integrated shit on a motherboard in the majority of cases shit will work fine.

Laptops are more finicky and not exactly suitable. Even with thinkpads you need shit like a new wlan card (which is $10, a minor inconvenience) and the touchpad support is horrendous which is not pleasant because macOS is known for having the best touchpad/trackpad gesture support there could possibly be (which is why they try to sell their own trackpad so much, even for desktops).

If you take a really, really random slightly dated Intel build (let's say 2 to 6 years old) with an AMD GPU there's no more difficulty about drivers than placing a bunch of files into some specific folders, no installer, no commands, nothing. Just drag and drop shit.

>>61761709
Yeah, I'd like to have features.

>>61759000
echo $?

2

>>61761820
No problems there.

>>61759000
how many times are you going to make this thread anyway

>>61759073
Jesus Christ you are such a fucking moron is so many ways

>>61759000
Oh wow I can also have a web browser and picture viewer open with a terminal in the background on linux without any problems

im trying hackintosh today for the first time, hope it goes smoothly

>>61759073
>tries arch once
>"every distro is unstable"

>>61759000
>VLC
mpv, retard
>Shitgox
you have the god-tier Safari, retard.

>>61764465
Webkit based browsers are shit.

>>61764511
they're god-tier. fast, just work, none of the bloat.

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>>61764645
>fagkit
>work
lmao

>tfw hackintosh is actually illegal and goes against Apple's TOS + EULA.

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>made a light gaming PC
>miss macOS as it is superior to windows in almost every way (already had a MBP)
>look up compatibility
>nobody has tried my mobo, but my other parts should be compatible
>mfw everything ended up working flawlessly

feels good man

>>61764706
hackintosh is not illegal
EULA/TOS are not laws, moron, it just sets you up to be sued by apple, which they would never do unless you were profiting from it

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I have literally never had a GNU/Linux OS crash. Not even one time. I've had problems with drivers that made me stop using it for a little while, but I've never run into the vast majority of these "problems" people bitch about.

More on topic,
>hackintosh works better
Possibly for you, but then you'd have to use OSX.

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>>61759000
Normal macOS works better and looks better too

>>61764871
>fagOS

I can't get around the whole process of making an installer without UniBeast. Not exactly sure what to do with the clover configuration in regards to acpi configuration.

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>>61759000
Also Safari is objectively the best browser

>>61764871
>2880x1800
>literally a sharper 1366x768
Kevin why

>>61764893
Oh wow what an original and clever and witty reply.

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>>61764871
>>61764929
POO

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its downloading so fucking slow

>>61764975
Any high resolution is going to be a sharper 1366x768, what's your point?

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>>61764985
Ha, jokes on you, I can't view that web

>>61764929
No. Safari has issues with streaming websites, not just the lack of support for webm.
It's only good if you have a laptop.

>>61765011
stop being retarded, higher resolutions fit more stuff on them unless scaling. the point is fagOS doesn't use those extra pixels to make extra room on your desktop.

>>61765039
I haven't had any issues with youtube or Netflix, or viewing general videos online. Also this is my system spec which is why it's better than Chrome or Firefox

System Information: Model: MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2016, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports) • CPU: Intel Core i5-6267U (4 Threads, 2 Cores) @ 2.90 GHz • Memory: 8.00 GB • Uptime: 5 days • Disk Space: 250.03 GB • Graphics: Intel Iris Graphics 550 • Display Resolution: 2880 x 1800 • OS: macOS High Sierra (Version 10.13, Build 17A315i)

>>61765054
It's a 13 inch display, without proper scaling everything would look too small.

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>>61765067

>>61765092
>t. poorfag

>>61765067
Yeah, those are popular sites so they would have to work there. There are other services that are a pain in the ass to work with. I had problems with hitbox (now smashcast)

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>>61765114
>t. povertyfag

>>61765083
Did you try it? Reduce the scaling, move your dock to the right and remove icons that you don't need then post again

>>61765083
obviously. but why not fit as much as on 900p or 1080p. can you even configure how much it scales?

>>61765119
To be fair you're probably right, and I haven't heard of that. I did have issues with rabb.it in the past though.
>>61765124
>implying I live in poverty and not that I can actually afford nice things

>>61765136
>owning a fagbook

>>61765148
I don't

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>>61765143
>I can actually afford things mcburger flippers can afford

This is how you spot the poorfags.

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>>61765136
Things just felt too small, especially when using something in full screen. Screenshot 1 of 2. (Had to make jpg cause of image file size).

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>>61765136
>>61765220
Screenshot 2 of 2

>>61765169
>comparing the Mac to the iPhone supplied by a carrier
Keep moving the goalposts.

>>61765220
>>61765242
At leaat you tried

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>>61765281
>t. mactoddler poorfag

>>61765307
I've tried in the past, it just feels too small, especially on a 13 inch display. What do you think?
>>61765318
>tfw I didn't do any special financing

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>all those bait desktops
>nobody posted the one to rule the all
Disappointing.

>>61765348
Did you try something like this https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/custom-resolution-mac-osx/
Dunno looks fine to me but I just have a 1080p display

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>>61765489
>the
Fuck me. Also have another one, it's on the house.

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>Hackintosh is better

Ha.

>>61765575
Who is this fluid druid?

>>61765515
Yeah, it only works with external displays though. I feel the default is perfect for this resolution and 13 inch display because it's the sweet spot of scaling where things are easier to read/see.

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>>61765575
>Gnome is a good DE

Ha.

>>61764871
weren't you shilling solus for weeks?
what happened?

>>61765709
That's not Gnome.

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>>61765724
Then what is it?

>>61765715
Oh, I still have Solus, I'm just /macOS/ now

>>61759036
Void

>>61765752
XFCE

>>61765830
>unironically using XFeCEs

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>>61765752
Xfce senpai.

>>61765850
Xfce is the best DE, senpai.

>>61765870
No, Quarts/Aqua is.

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Have another pic for your collection

>>61761073
> Hackintosh is so much easier than loonix
> All you need is 12 drivers and $60 on a new wifi card
meanwhile linux works out the box

>>61761073
>It's actually pretty simple to do Vanilla installs.
>you just need to have another mac

WOah really showed me

>>61766275
you don't need another mac

>>61766275
im sure you can do it with a virtual machine else there are macOS Sierra 10.12 bootable USB for Intel PCs(tm) images floating around, it's a waste of time though, windows is still the best desktop os, linux the best server os

>>61766275
You fucking stupid?

Just do it in a VM if you are a poorfag

Or stick with your stupid Loonix OS

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>>61766275

>using Apple botnet OS
Please, let's get a /normie/ board for these Microshit/crApple/Gooble/etc morons.

>>61761038
>The only things that are funky are audio kexts, LAN/Wifi and GPU
so.... almost everything but CPU, ram and drives then?

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Could anyone please provide some references/guides which they have used previously? I'm interested in doing a completely vanilla install of OS X. Any particular good places to look at? Would it also be beneficial if I have access to a macbook at any stage?

>>61766757
You should absolutely have a native mac computer to download the OS and then create a bootable drive. It'll create the least amount of problems. Yeah you can use a VM but that's just begging for corrupted drives.

>>61766678
/g/ is the normie board
go back to /r9k/ where you belong virgin

>>61766757
https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/68p1e2/ramblings_of_a_hackintosher_a_sorta_brief_vanilla/

>>61766810
Fuck off, normie. /g/ belongs to GNU. The image of RMS that greets you as the sticky should tell you that.

>>61766866
/g/ was originally for gore

>>61761556
>>61761586
>no shut up ur rong

>>61761680
>Arch linux
>the KDE forums
You installed shitty software and then complained about shitty software being on your computer. I have smooth 60fps no-tear desktop rendering on my laptop even in my standalone WM, because I do not install shitty software on my computer. I could also install GNOME or Cinnamon and have the same result.

It sounds to me like you are a stereotype of Apple users: you need protection from your own inability to make decisions. I imagine you feel like the experience is tainted when faced with the option to install a decent multiplatform software package instead of letting the App Store tell you what to think.

>>61766866
/g/ stands for /g/reat tech products
go back into your containment board loser
and he's there ironically, something you would have caught on to if you weren't suffering from hardcore autism

>>61765054

You can set it to different scaling options between 100-200%, moron

>>61766897
>It sounds to me like you are a stereotype of Apple users:
And it sounds to me like you are a stereotype of Linux users: Unable to comprehend the perspective of others due to autism.

>>61766833
Thanks a lot for that. Out of interest, how stable are system updates on a hackintosh? Particularly in terms of major version updates. Presumably those on a hackintosh system should wait 1-2 months for any hardware patches etc before going ahead with a full upgrade?

>>61766927
I understand your perspective, it's just stupid and wrong. At no point was I even speaking badly about Hackintosh itself, I was only pointing out how anecdotal evidence doesn't trump facts.

>>61766988
>I understand your perspective
They aren't my perspectives, I can just fully appreciate where they're coming from and how it differs from my positive experiences. Unlike you, claiming their experiences are stupid and wrong like a true autist.

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>>61759000
Sounds like an attempt to divide and conquer. Both OS are extremely stable compared with Windows.

>>61767065
He really is autistic, isn't he

i am in the process of transitioning to mac fully but i have a fx6300 so how fuck am i trying to migrate?

i just need ow to be ported to mac and i am good to go

>>61767195
>actually playing mobawatch
stop being a toddler and play an actual fps

>>61766962
minor updates usually just works and if something breaks it's easy to fix
major update requires more trubleshooting, just don't do them on day one and wait for other people to report

>>61767219
I think you replied to the wrong lad there buddy.

>>61767219
kek

>>61767279
That's fine. It sounds manageable in that case. I tend to postpone updates generally speaking anyway.

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>>61759073
ZFS root here.
It's retardedly hard to do in Linux.

ZFS essentially comes in two modules which need to compile a DKMS in the correct order or it will fuck your filesystem.
After you get this correct you need to modprobe zfs and ensure that all the dependencies are proper.
You then need to get zfs-initramfs or zfs-dracut package to initialize your system at boot and then edit your grub parameters to tell it where the pool will be.

You need to have a non-zfs /boot in order to load your initramfs and kernel.
This is all accomplished by the Antergos installer and unless you run ZFS on the regular you're not gonna understand how it works.

Just do a normal ext4 root and leave your data to ZFS.

I've just upgrade a couple of kext and installed WhateverGreen and now I can boot without igpu on my r9 380, fucking finally

>>61767934
Nice!

Nice, I got this thing working, no traces of tonyfag.

It wasn't all that hard and I save myself some effort as well in future installations, to be honest.

>>61759000
>more stable that Linux

fuck no nigger, I try to Install macOS sierra on my Toshiba satellite laptop and couldn't find any drivers and when i did the computer computer when full kernel panic, was only enable to get the drivers for Ethernet and I just install Windows back.

I got ubuntu and the shit was better than what I try to do with macOS

>>61768062
laptops are more problematic, you can't just install it

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>>61767902
w-what do i need to install to be able to see what you posted

>>61768087
>y-you can't j-just install a OS and expect it t-to work
>BUT I-ITS MORE STABLE THAN LOONIX

I can install something like Mint or Ubuntu and it work perfectly. Neck yourself apple babbie

>>61766962
Basically:

-For minor updates, read the changelog. If "big" features are added, maybe consider that there might be one thing that might stop working and you have to fix it by perhaps replacing a file or two.

-If you do the installation the slightly harder way (which involves grabbing some kexts from here and there instead of using UniBeast) you have next to no chances of fucking up, because official updates won't be able to replace any files that you might not want to have replaced.

-Big updates will most likely have issues at first, specially betas. If you want to have an actual stable experience, always wait until 10.xx.2 as there's a chance some of your favorite software may have slow updates and not catch up with compatibility. One of the big issues with macOS is that a new update almost always guarantees that some programs may stop working because they have to get around a new security feature.

>>61768127
I don't think that stability has nothing to do with the installation but whatever
I use Arch on the thinkpad but that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate a differnt os on my desktop

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>>61768108
macOS

>>61768148
>you have next to no chances of fucking up, because official updates won't be able to replace any files that you might not want to have replaced.

Okay, that's great. I had this suspicion which is why my original incentive was to get the installation next to being as 'vanilla' as possible. I'd anticipate that a new major release will require some time for community updates etc, that's a given.

>>61768171
wait why you safari is so translucent

>>61768151
>I don't think that stability has nothing to do with the installation
Tell this to OP

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>>61768215
What do you mean?

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>all my files

>>61768227
nothing I'm a retarded that never used safari

>>61768264
Oh, it's okay.

>>61761335
Are you kidding, that shit's great for the lazy.

>>61768213
Give it two to three months. Some people get lucky enough that they will have barely any noticeable issues even on betas, but for instance now they introduced APFS as a usable filesystem on the installation, so that's obviously not going to work smoothly at first. It's like telling people to install a new linux distro on F2FS right away if they have an SSD so to speak.

>>61768264
No you aren't. It's because some of the window decorations have this effect when putting things behind them. In Safari it shows the page. In Chrome it doesn't work. In Finder, the top elements show the contents of the folder and the sidebar shows anything that's behind that window (other windows/desktop). This can be disabled in any case in Accesibility > Reduce Transparency

>>61768171
No thanks

>>61759983
>food analogy

I like safari but I wish it was more compatible with some shit, aside from webbums

Apple always has this software that is great but lacks one substantial feature that every other software has. Like iTunes. What's with iTunes and not having FLAC support? It doesn't bother me too much since ALAC still exists, but goddamn. Or Pages. I love Pages, but how the hell does it lack being able to select multiple parts of text? This is basic shit.

>>61766988
your """"facts"""" can't explain why so many people have a perfectly working system
there's more than twice as many people running a terribly configured Arch Linux system than Hackintosh people. but I'm not going to go on a Vietnamese fresco forum and call people retarded for choosing to run the same distro as a bunch of naive newbies.

>>61761211
Unibeast is FINE to use during the install process because that's just the USB stick with drivers in the EFI partition.

Once you're in macOS, just don't use their Multibeast tool. It's shit. It literally patches an audio .kext which means when you update your macOS, it becomes macaco.

I recommend you visit r/hackintosh (sorry for the plebbit plug) and check out their discord. Almost everyone there recommends vanilla method and they hate TonyMacFag.

If you're a /g/ visitor this shouldn't be that hard for you.

>>61760245
Um, that's where you're wrong honey.
https://www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/august/2017

>>61761211
FYI TonyMacFag makes a shit ton of money from referral links from normies.

InsanelyMac is a much better forum.

>>61761232
Dude shut the fuck up. I know how Lulnux works.

I was comparing macOS (A Unix-like OS) to Wangblows.

Now fuck off.

>>61761543
Why do you assume it's not working well?

I literally have all Adobe apps open all the time with my 64GB RAM there's no issues.

I push this thing to the max every fucking day and had zero issues.

I even OC'd to 4.5Ghz (Skylake CPU) and it's as loose as your mothers cunt.

>>61768486
>not eating food

What are you, Somalian?

>>61768646
I ended up doing it all with just clover and the right kexts because why the fuck not. My issue was whether or not the config.plist created by the clover installer was going to be compatible so I checked the one in my system partition and did a comparison. It all went almost smoothly except that I forgot about some audio injecting setting so that AppleALC could work. It all went pretty smoothly aside from that.

>>61768658
*You're are

>tfw you have an AMD processor
;_;

>>61766001
There's nothing to do on Loonix.

It's a useless OS. ALL distributions.

>>61766275
Get the fuck out of /g/ then you lazy cunt

how do drivers get updated on macos? do you have relive?

>>61768883
Ryzen support SOON, brother.

>>61768773
Yeah spend some time setting up config.plist, it's a trial and error.

If you get lucky and your setup is the same as someone elses, ask for their config file.

9/10 it'll work well.

Also keep a clean config.plist.

And make sure your CPU is set correctly so power states are taken into account.

Also DSDT files etc are all loaded.

>>61769191
There are no "drivers" for macOS, they are kernel extensions which are already included in the system when you install.

The only "drivers" available are from nVidia, called WebDrivers.

For example, many AMD GPUs work out of the box mostly with no drivers needed (Apple writes their drivers).

MacOS's font only looks good on apple displays.
My macbook pro looks great on the internal 2560x1600 display, looks like total ass on my 3440x1440 display at home.

>>61769256
>3440x1440
That's not a real resolution, anon.
That's a meme resolution.

>>61769256
There are 4 different settings for font rendering you can tinker with, from very thin to quite blurry.

https://github.com/SteveJobzniak/spacemaxed/blob/master/spacemaxed/docs/02_MACTWEAKS.org

Why would I put up with a Hackentosh when it only truly works on the real thing?

>>61769313
Because that's verifiably untrue?

>>61769313
>Hackentosh

Fucking pajeets.

This is a technology board, not a forum for curry recipes.

Get the fuck out.

>>61769333
Apple has some of the best hardware out there, pal.

>>61769237
doesnt that mean that you get worse performance/stability than you would get on a linux/windows machine

>>61769456
Not at all.

However, a general rule of thumb is Wangdows is 3-8% faster than macOS in general overall.

Not due to "drivers" just the way things are.

Apple uses regular parts in their computers, retrofitted into their industrial design.

If you follow the rules and buy similar hardware, you won't have issues and it'll act like a real Mac.

>t. Hackintosh user for over a year as a daily driver.

>>61769615
>If you follow the rules and buy similar hardware, you won't have issues and it'll act like a real Mac.

Not true, there are some things which will be broken, no matter what you do.
DRM stuff for example, you can't use Netflix or amazon video on Safari.

>>61769745
Uh I have a Hackintosh right now and everything works including whatever you mentioned.

I use Chrome most of the time though.

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Hi

Which would run better, hackintosh or mac os virtual machine run on workstation?

>>61769781
Hackintosh

>>61765709
>using buggy
nice bait

>>61769779
hi :^)

>>61765575
that unironically works pretty well
>>61765595
hanekawa tsubasa

>>61759740
>it doesnt work on my X200t because swivel screen.

>>61769269
How so?
I like 2560x1440 PPI, and I like 21:9 aspect ratio.

4k is nice, but current GPUs struggle too hard with it.

>>61770362
>21:9 aspect ratio
LOL

>>61759073
The hardest part of arch is installing it, after that it's just learning basic bash commands and googling how to do stuff

>>61764871
>last name parnell
confirmed for black guy.

>>61770835
???
21:9 is amazing for productivity. You seem a bit upset, are people not allowed to have preferences?

>>61771203
Kek good luck with that shitty and discontinued aspect ratio.

16:10 is god tier for productivity.

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>>61769063
>Linux is useless
>Talking about Mac

Holy shit you are delusional

What's the least destructive way to test if Hackintosh will work on my laptop?

>>61771228
I like 16:10 as well.
My macbook pro is 16:10.

I don't care if the aspect ratio is discontinued, I'll just buy a new monitor. Are you poor?

>>61771254
Does Adobe software work on Loonix?

Or Final Cut Pro X?

Or Microsoft Office?

Thought so. Kys LibreOffice "Open Source" fag.

>>61771093
don't be rude to kevin
>>61771203
not on 4chan it seems

>>61771284
Add a second SSD/M.2 if available.

If not, then make a mirror image of your main drive with Clone Zilla, then install macOS.

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>>61771368
>every thing is video editing and word processing software
>everybody everywhere uses adobe software and word processing everyday of their life
>a computer is only meant for this software
>nothing else
>nothing more
>servers do not exist
>a OS is made for video processing and spreadsheets

T430s hackintosh here.

Ableton through thunderbolt is awesome.
The rest of osx is meh


Wish I was back on ubuntustudio

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>>61771093
I'm white lmao

>>61772794
Not with that mongol facial structure

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>>61772807
Kek

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haha OP ur dumb
I've installed Arch on my EEEpc 4G (it's one of the few distros that installs without crashing anyways as well as puppylinux and debian minimal).
It works fine but using windows, linux or BSD on a desktop? it doesn't really make sense desu, you're right about macOS I will give you that.

>>61774418
Thanks

>>61761000
>Linus Torvalds
ah, the same guy who dissed apple devs because of HFS even though EXT sucks MASSIVE DONKEY COCKS even TODAY?
the guy who keeps complaining about other kernels even though his kernel keeps getting more and more bloated? (he even admits it haha) while also doing nothing about it
the guy who unironically supports systemD?
the guy who did nothing to kill grub2?
this gotta be bait

>>61772794
WTF white walker

>>61759000
>more stable that Linux
kek

>>61759159
*buntu is spyware
no good

>>61759755
>Arch Anywhere
>pure arch
retardissimo/10

>>61760850
comparing gnu+linux to TempleOS
>more stable
tnx ragesh

>>61760778
*butterfs

>>61760821
>>61760820
freebsd has excellent support for zfs/zpool for like the past decade. linux can't into zfs.

>>61768695
>I know how Lulnux works.
uhh no u dont.
read up on mach and then we'll talk

>>61764871
AYYEE KEEEVEEEN

>>61759561
doesn't know osx
>>61759391
only since 2012 or something

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tfw hackintosh is illegal and Gnu/Linux is libre including gratis and morally.

:}

Anyone had any luck hackintoshing a Dell XPS 13 9350?

Kinda want to try it out

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>>61779758
If you google it, there's a guide for that in github.

>>61759000
Wrong
>>61759022
Seriously wrong

>>61759152
This. Forwarded op's cyberlink to apple's legal team

I'm interested in hackintosh, can all telemetry be removed?

>>61783317
no

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>>61783317
who knows, you can uncheck the boxes.. but does it do anything is another question

>>61783317
https://github.com/drduh/macOS-Security-and-Privacy-Guide