/pcbg/

looking for a cooler for my am4 cpu
i'm using stock right now but i feel the need to replace it i guess.

>>61755439
if you're not overclocking and arent overheating already wraith is fine.

>>61755439
if you are looking for a good performance per dollar ratio get the Macho rev b, if you are looking for high performance get the big Phantek or Poo in Loo Noctuna

>>61755476
alright, is there a timer on how long before i'll have to replace the paste, and will a vega 56 be worth the upgrade from a 580 8gb?

>>61755501
>vega 56
nobody can tell you because no benchmarks

AM4 boards with ECC?

I only found these:
Gigabyte GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI
ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac

>>61755528
rip well alright

>>61755484
>>61755476
thanks for the advice.

>>61755501
not necessarily. Keep an eye on your temps, if they get higher than average use compressed air to clean your case, if that doesn't work then reapply the thermal compound. My most recent build I completed 6-7 months ago and haven't run into any issues though.

>>61755439
I was thinking about getting an aio for my 1700, but with a pretty aggressive fan curve, I rarely break 60c at 3.5ghz. And that's with only one exhaust case fan. When I get my two intakes I doubt it'll be worth upgrading until the sound bothers me.

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Good mobo / ram for ryzen 1600?
Was going to build fx8350 b/c win7 but I don't think I can justify an am3 build -- decided to just get ryzen.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wjhrbj
also open to case recommendations - it's my first build be gentle

i've done way too much digging into PC cases this past couple of weeks and i came across a couple of offerings from this brand called "anidees" that seem really really compelling. anyone have experience with this (relatively new/unknown?) brand?

I just got a stronk GPU and I'm looking for a good 1440p monitor. Specifically, one with VESA mounts, a non-TN panel, and reasonably low response time/input lag, ideally under $400 but willing to compromise on that. 60hz or 144hz is fine, I'm coming from an older GPU and will be content with a solid 60 FPS. I'd rather have rock-solid 60 than something higher but unstable.

Right now I've got my eye on the Asus PB258Q from the logicalincrements list, and was also considering the VA32AQ, though I feel like that one's got some hidden flaw with it considering its low price. Can anyone vouch for either of these monitors or recommend others?

>>61755692
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pwXBBP

>>61755894
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwgPxr/dell-s2417dg-238-165hz-monitor-s2417dg

>>61755692
Get cheaper case and buy asus crosshair hero

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>>61755960
>$236 x370 board for a single gpu build

>>61755692
250gb SSD is enough even with how ridiculously huge games are today if you're planning on installing few on it. Also look for a cheaper case, that one is too big and expensive for that build.

>>61755692
don't do this >>61755960

$200 CPU doesn't need a $230 motherboard. That's stupid. Get something like the Asrock B350 Pro4 or the MSI B350 Mortar
>>61755985
I bought the Asus Crosshair and a 1700X at launch. I always buy overkill motherboards because they usually receive the most support from the manufacturer, and with AMD saying AM4 socket will be around for at least 4 years, I figure my Crosshair will have the best shot of fully supporting Zen 2/3 CPUs when they launch without issue.

are used cpu/gpus worth getting?

>>61755985
yes good bios and big community who test it. make it worth paying extra

>>61756014
>tfw no high end mATX boards for AM4

fugg

>>61756014
>>61755960
it's cute but don't try to justify your purchase by making me buy one too.

>>61755921
thank you, heard about some problems with ryzen and asrock though.

updated - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3crCRG

>>61756015
if they weren't used for 6+ months of mining then yes

>>61756032
yea unfortunate I know.
>>61756071
>it's cute but don't try to justify your purchase by making me buy one too.
What? I not even the anon here >>61755960
I said for you to NOT buy the crosshair, but simply explained to a different anon why people would.

>>61755692
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YBtdhq

You were missing RAM unless you've already purchased it. Also changed your SSD to different brand. Slightly higher capacity (525GB vs 500GB) for around $25 less.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YBtdhq

>>61755994
GTA V and DOOM are 65-80GB installed, and games will only continue to get bigger.

I can't think of many games that benefit greatly from being installed on SSD though. Obduction, I guess.

>>61756015
CPUs? Yes.

GPUs? There was a time I would say yes, but now, not so keen on it. With the crypto-miner fags saturating the market with crispy and burnt GPUs, there's a good chance you'll be buying a lemon. If you're just looking for a dirt cheap replacement to hold you over, go nuts, but if you're looking to hold onto the GPU for a while, just buy new.

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Any cases like the old mac pro towers? That shit just looks great except for the apple logo, really need a full metal case built like a tank. Steel or aluminum doesn't matter, just solid, no cheap RGB gamer plastic, no brittle glass windows, but good airflow.

>>61755484
Isn't Noctua from Austria?

>>61756107
modern games/hdds are normally good enough for the loading screens to be negligible regardless, but old open world shit with tons of loading screens like skyrim benefit from it pretty well AFAIK

what exactly will the difference be from playing with an unlocked framerate on my 60hz monitor to a 144hz monitor with no variable refresh tech? won't they both still tear and the experience be the exact same? what exactly is the advantage of 144hz if i can play with high fps no issue on a 60hz screen. does 144hz monitor feel smoother or something

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>>61756130
>good air flow
>Solid
>metal

Silverstone Fortress FT-02. Pic related. They make windowed and non-windowed versions. Comes in Silver, Black, brushed metal grey if I'm not mistaken. But they're like $250 new on Newegg so I hope you have deep pockets.

>>61756170
your 60hz monitor isn't displaying 144fps. The fps counter is simply showing how many fps the GPU is currently capable of. Such a surplus results in the tearing you're talking about. Out of the 120+ Fps you're GPU is giving you, you 60hz monitor can only "use" 60 of them, so you'd want to have v-sync enabled to avoid tearing.

144fps on a panel with 144hz capabilities means the monitor will "use" all 144fps. This results in less/no motion blur at all in racing and First person shooter games. Sometimes even things like scrolling on a browser appears more seamless and smooth.

All comes down to preference. Some swear by 120hz/144hz panels, and others don't care. Honestly I think you're better off with a g-sync panel if you have a nvidia card (expensive because of branding) or a free-sync monitor if you have AMD (much cheaper because AMD). It results in a smoother gameplay experience overall.

https://pcpartpicker com/list/tbHjr7

How would this be for light gaming and lots of Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop? Would I need a beefier PSU if I wanted to overclock? Are there any ways to cut cost? Lastly, would I be better off waiting for an RX580 8gb to come into stock?

When can i preorder the vega 56

>>61755958
I will consider this, even though it's a TN.
Was hoping for something 25" or higher as I like to do image work from time to time.

>>61756230
i have nvidia gpu but i'm not going to pay extra for a feature i don't really care about. if you're saying that 144hz will make my games more smooth in general over playing with unlocked fps on a 60hz screen i'll just get the cheapest i can find.

like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mNBrxr/aoc-ag271qx-270-2560x1440-144hz-monitor-ag271qx

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Do decent but affordable 16:10 monitors even exist these days? All I can see are Dell. I need something to replace this 9 year old 1680x1050 monitor and I just can't find it.

What's the maximum amps/watts a mobo will feed into one of the fan headers?

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>>61756268
if you're only doing light gaming, there is no need at all for the 1060. Plus, gtx 1060's right now are stupid overpriced because of fucking miners again.

No you don't need more wattage. Even overclocked, the r7-1700 is less than 100w. Adobe suite in general seems to not be taking full advantage of GPU acceleration, so waiting for the RX580 would do nothing for you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GZmjr7

>bought 144hz monitor
>can't go back to 60hz
>actually considering buying a 240hz because even 144hz isn't smooth enough anymore

where will it end? i'm addicted to hertz.

>>61756307
yea G-sync is a fucking rip off. That monitor should be fine. AOC isn't terrible. Look up reviews before you jump though. Don't want to find out that the viewing angles are trash and you could have avoided the whole mess for just $50 more.
>>61756329
Differs from motherboard to motherboard. What are you trying to power?

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Please help this poorfag brainlet.

I'm looking for a sub $100 GPU to stick in this old ass PC til I can save up and build a new gaming pc when the prices finally come down. I'm mainly going to be playing older games from before 2012.

The Micro Center near me has some ASUS Radeon RX 550 2gbs for 80 bucks but I'm pretty sure it'll all just got bottle necked on this old ass pc. Arigato Senpai. m(-_-)m

>>61756358
how awkward is pairing a 1440p 144hz monitor as a primary display with a 4k 60 hz monitor as secondary? i'm getting a 1440p 144hz for my personal use but i need a 4k monitor on my desk for family members because of the new xbox coming soon

>>61756369
1050ti if you can afford it, 750ti if you can't.

>>61756369
wow that's an ancient PC. And bottleneck nothing. Who cares? The RX550 should be a decent hold over for you although if you can spring the extra cash ($120) you can get a 2GB non TI gtx 1050. It'll run circles around the RX550 and 560 using less power.
>>61756372
Depends on your definition of awkward, and where the monitors will be positioned. I have a 32" 60hz 1440p monitor as my main with a 27" 1080p IPS panel to my upper right for other stuff. It's all relative. 4K should be used for web pages and movies while gaming on the 1440p.

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>>61756335

>>61756423
i mean moving from one to the other when working. everything will be smaller on the 4k screen because of the higher res right? also like you said scrolling on 144hz would be smoother so it would be jarring if you're scrolling on both monitors at the same time?

>>61756405
>750 ti when the 1050 exists

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>>61756465
yea the window would appear a bit smaller as would text. As for scrolling, I don't think it would so jarring that you can't get past it.
>>61756464
>That switch picture

Lol no. And if it is, it's with the switch docked, and slow cooking itself to death. The switch was such an abortion.

How hot should an 1800X run relatively idle? Speccy tells me 40-50 C. Maybe I fucked up the thermal paste?

>>61756680
it had ~20 degree offset.

What's the best PCI wireless network adapter at an affordable price? The two with a bunch of reviews on PC part picker are several years old.

What's the best GPU to pair with an i5 2400? Preferably one with no power pins required but if necessary I can get a new power supply.

>>61756358
The fan I'm planning to use on my CPU cooler is 3.6 watts (0.3 amps), which is considerably higher than any other fan I've ever tried to use before

>>61756680
>>61756713
You can disable the offset in some motherboard or new bios version

>>61756714
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704040

Bought this back in 2011 for $27, has worked perfectly the entire time, worth every penny

>>61756130
You could grab one on CL and mod it to use regular components.

>>61756751
pretty sure most headers can handle at least 1 amp (12 watts)
wouldn't recommend splitting it more than two ways though, regardless of wattage/amperage

Just need a small bit of advice for a move to an R3 1200 or 1300X. I'm going to run 2400mhz RAM, but apparently they're very sensitive to RAM speed. Is 2400mhz enough to be considered worth using? I'm going to be cooling it with a Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi so i'm going to have room for overclock.

And on the other hand, motherboard brands. It's down to ASrock, MSI, Gigabyte and ASUS. Which is the one to go with if I don't want the board to shit the bed within months? I'm kinda wary of ASrock, and people have told me to avoid MSI and go with Gigabyte. Looking for the experience/evidence of a thousand screaming anons.

>>61756867
the big problem with Ryzen is not being able to run higher-speed RAM at the rate you're supposed to be, it usually automatically downclocks to 2400 or 2667

stick to the QVL, and I've also heard that the X-chips MAY have less compatibility issues

https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-06/am4-motherboard-memory-support-list-en_0.pdf

What are good full tower cases that you would reccomend? I was gonna use the rosewill throne window but people in the last thread said I could afford something better.

>>61757037
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811553002

I was here yesterday in the afternoon.

I was looking through the QVL list for the Crosshair VI Hero and I noticed that there was only 2 models that they tested at 32gigs for the RAM.

I was initially going to buy 2 sets of Corsair's Dominator Platinum because I thought I would achieve 3200 with all 4 of them but now I am having second thoughts.

My question is that, will my initial pick still function with all four slots at 3200 and it just hasn't been tested or should I just go for one of the two that have been tested?

which kikeripper mobo is everyone getting?

>>61757196
If it isn't on the QVL, no one knows if it will work till you try to POST with it.

>>61757021
Yeah, the Kingston/HyperX HX424C15FBK2 kit is confirmed supported. Now I just need to know motherboard brand for a B350 AM4 board.

ASrock, MSI, Gigabyte or ASUS? I've been told ASrock and MSI are garbage.

Is it worth buying a fan for my RAM if I'm planning on going to 3200 with a Ryzen 7?

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could you put a bunch of pre 08 cpus in a custom motherboard to avoid the backdoor jew?

>>61755008
I'm kind of afraid of getting an AIO liquid cooler, are there some air alternatives with similar performance, im not really bothered about noise

If I wanted to build a Windows XP gaming machine for 2007 and older games with the absolute best period accurate parts for the time, what do I choose?

>>61757403
The only way to avoid the backdoor jew is to eschew all technology and become a hermit or live with the amish.

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How many months left until they release coffee lake?

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>>61757403
>custom motherboard

>>61757411
Take your pic. E.g. NH-D15. High end air coolers are as good as high end AIOs

Also air coolers are actually quieter

>>61757411
I assume this is for your CPU? Which processor/TDP? How much overclocking do you plan on doing?

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what gpu would work best for this ? for my familia

So what the fuck. Building a PC should I go for Ryzen, intel, or wait for this vega shit?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gZwnRG

That's what I got, any tweaks you lads can think of? I pretty much only play CSGO and dota 2, occasionally a AAA title. I'm using a laptop for the past couple years and it's been... pretty much fine. Can't max settings on AAA games but decent for CSGO and dota 2. Never built a PC though, is this alright? I have a mouse and headset already.

>>61757879
Ryzen + Nvidia is the best atm

>>61757196
The crosshair vi board on the overclockers forum has a big Google document with RAM timings and speeds people have achieved. Just check that and see what's there

>>61757879
7700k is probably not the best choice, I'd go with a Ryzen 5 1600 in your case

>>617578>>61757890
So which Ryzen is best? Sorry I have no clue I just know this intel one is like.. the best they got.

>>61757927
Can you explain why? I thought it was the best? Also, how's the other parts of the build? Pretty much maxed out on my budget.

>>61755008
I need a PCIe wireless networking adapter. which one should I buy?

>>61757928
1700 or 7700k.
1700 is superior.
7700k is just slightly better at gaming.

>>61757928
you don't need a 1700 so just get a ryzen 5 and overclock it when you need to

>>61757928
not that anon but
>pretty much only play CSGO and dota 2, occasionally a AAA title

You don't need more than a 1600 for those 2 games if you mainly play those.

>>61757955
But.. gaming is what I'm getting it for? Don't I want the better thing for gaming?

>>61757928
If the main function is gaming, you don't need to go higher than Ryzen 5

Get a 1600, and slowly introduce yourself to the joys/pains of overclocking

>>61757957
Doesn't overclocking make the CPU not last as long?

>>61757797
Yes for CPU, I bought an i7 7700k on special a while back, didn't have the cash to finish my build at the time. I probably won't overclock at all. Just a pc for gaming.
>>61757764
Thanks will look into it.

>>61757974
Then get the 7700k

>>61757974
Depending on the specific game, the law of diminishing returns on adding extra cores kicks in gently, or kicks in HARD....6 should be plenty for just about any current title

And in your case, putting the money you'd save from stepping "down" from a Ryzen 7 to a Ryzen 5 towards an improved video card is a MUCH better investment towards better graphics quality and framerates

>>61757992
if you overclock it a lot, it can
and the safe amount will vary from model to model, or even chip to chip within the same model #SiliconLottery
But you ought to be able to squeeze at least a couple hundred MHz out of your CPU safely regardless

>>61757951
help

Is the 980ti still a good card for 1080p and 1440p gaming? How many years can I still get out of it if I decided to buy one now?

Why is not having features considered a benefit of cases these days? It's so fucking alien to me how all these high-end cases lack 5.25" bays.

>>61755008
Anybody got a recommendation on a horizontal case?

The GPU bend for some of the newer cards gives me anxiety.

What's a good monitor to pair with a 1080? I already have a 1080p/144hz monitor that I'll be retiring as a secondary monitor.

>>61758115
just get a riser desu

What fans should I get for a 240mm radiator? Cost doesn't matter.

>>61758143
Thanks, I'm new to building, where do I put the card in the case, if I use a riser?

>>61758115
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFJ0H3Q/?tag=pcpapi-20

I had the same feeling. GPU and CPU air coolers are getting way too heavy for me to feel comfortable about dangling the motherboard vertically.

>>61758148
what fan size do they take

>>61758206
2x 120mm

>>61758211
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200068
I have 2x of the 140mm version of this fan, and they're fucking fantastic

is there a decent gpu in between the 1060 and 1070 in terms of performance? i don't mind buying older cards

CancerCoin reaches more than 3k dollars, we never get a graphic cards in decent price...

>>61756770
I just bought one of these. no win 10 drivers. d-don't d-do it

>>61758351
980ti

I live in Korea and found a 144hz 1440p IPS monitor for $320

Is it a good deal or should I just get a cheap $125 1080p 60hz monitor

Come on out anti-backdoor posters, I know you're here.

Post your builds and ask for comments.

So what's the best AIO? I have the Wraith Spire and thinking of getting a new air cooler or AIO. Never had an AIO but it would need to fit in a Fractal Nano S

>>61758471
the real cancer is people like you thinking thats what they're using them for

>>61758664
>Korea monitors
Lol

Why do so many cases these days not include even 1 5.25 bay (cd drive)? its not as if it even saves space since most have the same dimensions and features. yes i get theyre not as widely used but its nonsensical to remove

>>61758770
They block airflow in most mid towers and 90% of the people don't even use them anymore. They also increase material cost as those cages take money to build so they removed them.

>>61758770
Buy an external cd/dvd drive if you really need it.

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Heh. Neat case for $46.

>>61758752
?

>>61759012
Korea monitors are notoriously cheap for a reason. They all barely pass or outright fail QC so you get shit ton of issues with them like dead pixels. But this is only for the unknown brands otherwise Samsung ones should be fine.

buying a ryzen 1700x and i'm reading about the ram speed thing and also how fucking glitchy it seems, how do i pick a motherboard/ram to go with it? those are the only 3 i'm upgrading

>>61759030
don't listen to this faggot

ips 1440p 144hz displays in the US are $500+ easily

also if your monitor breaks you can just rma it since you live in korea

for ryzen and a b350 motherboard is it okay to pick an ssd and ram that's not on the qvl?

>>61758790
>>61758915
fair point, although im sure a cage for one drive wouldnt be that restrictive or costly.

>>61758790
They could make it removeable like Design R5 or Enthoo Pro M. Though I understand if they wanted to chepen it.

>>61755008
X370 taichi

nay or yay?

>>61759332

Ram not on the QVL means you enter "here be dragons" territory. That is to say one of three scenarios will play out-

1) You hand tune the ram settings (timing, voltage and whatnot) to match the XMP and it Just Werks™

2) It cannot into XMP settings and you might have to settle for lesser performance than what the kit is rated for due to a combination of motherboard options and/or your chips memory controller

3) Shits fucked yo and it only runs at the JEDEC spec of 2133mhz.

>>61759439

Top tier board along with the crosshair hero.

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Threadly reminder that the AM4 Bristol Ridge CPUs will be released in less than two weeks which will have overclockable quad cores for cheaper than a G4560 as well as better iGPU performance and a hundred times better upgrade path and future proofing.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_s_bristol_ridge_apus_are_set_to_hit_retail_by_august_18th/1

>>61757951
I had good experiences with the Asus PCE-AC58

bit expensive, but great performance on 5ghz

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>>61759499
>Just when i thought bulldozer was gone this shit happens
FUCKING SHIT GO AWAY BULLDOZER REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61759532
It'll still be better than the G4560 you retard

>>61759555
no it fucking isnt, people might as well bite the bullet and buy a r3 1200

>>61755008
Are any of the Ryzen x's worth it compared to their non x counterparts? Would like to know because 1600x is practically a worse deal.

>>61759562
just for people not willing to overclock

>>61759453
so it will still run, just not at a guarenteed speed?

>>61759560
>People should buy a CPU that costs twice as much as well as needing a dedicated GPU on top of it
Consider this: You're a retard

>>61759560

I don't think you realise quite how far ahead AMD's igpu design is even on the bulldozer based chips. In practical terms those bristol ridge chips are only matched by Iris Pro on the intel side and at a much, much higher cost.

>>61759580

Basically yes. The JEDEC standard of 2133mhz is safe in so much every single ram dimm will run at that no matter what. Generally (assuming the kit is rated for it of course) 2666mhz is generally a guarenteed speed on ryzen as that is what the memory controller supports (for reference kaby lake officially only supports upto 2400mhz - anything above that is overclocking).

>>61759587
>People should buy a CPU that costs $20 more as well as needing a dedicated GPU on top of it
Consider this: You're a blind AMD shill that still is trying to shill bulldozer garbage in 2017

>>61759609
>the only thing in a APU is a GPU
Excavator is a inefficient housefire and is inferior to any pentium or ryzen

>>61759614
>The difference between $50 and $110 is $20
You have Downs syndrome, please stop posting

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>>61759624

> inefficient

Sure, but it goes to show how far ahead the igpu is that even with the commanding cpu-side lead Intel has its not enough.

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>>61759656
>implying the g4560 is $50
?

>>61759678
>and its worse than the last gen AMD apu
you can stop any time now, bristol ridge is shit, just wait for raven ridge for cheap shit

>>61759695
The AM4 Bristol Ridge APUs start at $50, please just stop

>>61759718
>changing the goal posts
calm the fuck down, AMD is just shit for sub $100, just deal with it

>1060s getting back in stock
>60-70 dollars more expensive now

just mine my shit up

>>61759733
>Changing the goal posts
No, I'm pretty sure I know what I said. But sure, please enlighten us on why you should pay $30 more to get the G4560 that has fewer cores, worse iGPU, worse upgrade path and isn't overclockable.

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>61759758
>he doesn't know about bulldozer half cores
wow you really are a summerfag aren't you?

>>61759231
>Pick mainboard of your choice
>check QVL
>buy RAM that's on the QVL
Done. Besides that most RAM will work even if its not on the QVL. Just not worth risking it u less you want to experiment a bit

>>61759781
Wow, you've convinced me, I'm going to buy the worse CPU that costs more! Thank you for opening my eyes, Goldstein!

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has anyone heard of the jonsbo rm2? it seems almost perfect and as if its the smallest atx case available at:209MM (W) * 302MM (D) * 354MM (H). only issue i see is it only has one hard drive bay (and 3 2.5 bays).

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how practical would it be to use xeons for gaming?

friend of mine is upgrading his server and he has a dual xeon E5-2430 with 24GB (6x4GB) setup on an asus motherboard for sale.

mind you gaming is not my primary focus, i do a lot of audio production and video editing which takes priority BUT the board does have a pcie x16 3.0 slot on it so if i were to slap in a current gen card would i also have a viable gaming rig on my hands?

cant find any gaming reviews with my setup so im hoping some of you fa/g/s have experience with this.

>>61759826
you are so diluted that you have convinced yourself that bulldozer is good

>>61759879
xeons wont have the accuracy of i7s, theyre like using a workhorse in a horse race

>>61759879

>sandy bridge
>2ghz clocks

That isn't a compelling platform for the needs of gaming despite the monstrous throughput you will have. I guess it depends on how seriously you take your vidya.

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>>61759918
>the accuracy of i7s

>>61759915
bulldozer was decebt though and in niche cases the only choice. yes the modules have a bottleneck but it doesnt actually limit it that much. its also the best cpu you can get that has no management engine or equivalent. also at the time a good cpu for pass through and no gimped features for the entire range at the time

>>61759879
Video editing involves very large RAM throughput, so the Xeon will benefit you not just because of its bandwidth, but also with ECC.

Any serious work computer should have ECC.
Imagine that 10 hour encode crashing because of a flipped bit, or a green pixel showing up in the final encode.

>>61759879
>2.2GHz/2.7 turbo Sandy
Eh. It'd probably be 60% of an i7 2600.

How much is he asking? You can get dual E5-2670 systems for $700 and singles for like $350. That's a 2.6GHz/3.3GHz octo-core Sandy.

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>>61759940
>bulldozer
>decent
Wow, you're worse than Intel shills.

>>61759931
>accuracy
can you elaborate?

>>61759931
only games i really have in mind at the moment are battlegrounds and a bunch of racing sims. its not the end of the world if i cant run everything at 90FPS with ultra settings but i would love to know what i would be in for.

like what does an i7/i5 have that makes them better suited?

>>61759960
he hasnt given me a price yet (work buddy so ill ask him next time) however i kind of like the sound of your setup cause 6 cores seems like an oddball number for a cpu.

does the price you gave include everything minus gpu and chasis?

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>>61759991
finally someone that is sane

>>61759998
Look up T3600/T5600 on Ebay.
Z440/Z640/Z840 too, though for some reason those tend to go for astronomical prices.

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I need help picking (shills stay away)
R5 1600 or R7 1700 or i5 7600k or (your suggestion)
I do both gayming (on 1080p 60hz may upgrade later to 1440 100hz ultra wide or triple 1080 monitors) and workstation tasks (video rendering, heavy photo editing, light 3d modeling, streaming)
My budget is 1000$ so Going with a higher priced cpu means lower price graphics card.
Which cpu should i get and why?
I was considering the 1600 because it seems the best bang for the buck but i saw some bad news about it (random crashes, very low gaym performance, high heat) are these true?

What are some of the best 1080p/60hz high quality monitors that are good for gaming, productivity, general use, and look beautiful?

>>61760055
>>61760055
go for the r7 1700

>>61758163
You're gonna need a case with vertical mounting or a case where motherboard is laying down. Both have very limited selections.

>>61760076
Is the performance difference between the r7 1700 and the r5 1600 worth the ≈100$?

>>61760055
Get the 1600. 1700 is two moar cores, but the price difference comes out of your graphics card, which matters more.

Ryzen is stable today. Just get ram that's officially supported by your mobo

>>61760158
The worth depends on how much you do stuff that benefits from more cores and how much faster you want that to be. For games 1600 is plenty but for workloads 1700 is recommended. But with a budget that low I'd go with 1600 and get a better GPU.

>>61760158
I use a 1600 overclocked to 4 GHz and it works fine. Unless you need the cores spending anything more is wasteful.

>>61755532
Are you talking about registered?

Back in x58 most motherboards supported unregistered ecc if you had a xeon even when the Manual/ QVL didnt mention that

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>>61755008
Ok. So i've decided to buy both an:

MSI b350 tomahawk Mobo and an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6cores 12 threads

Thing is, my machine is windows 7 and currently has an ASUS motherboard (ASUS M5A78L-M Plus/USB3) on it.

Am I running a risk by swapping my mobo from ASUS to MSI in order to upgrade? Do I have to install my OS all over again?

Just want to get this out of the way

>>61760179
I am getting the msi X370 Gayming plus (because cheapest x370 mobo).
Is the g.skill Trident z 2×8gb 3000mhz good?

>>61759817
how the fuck do i find the qvl
pls spoonfeed me bby

>>61760209
windows wont run regardless because of licence checks it does

>>61760230
With the 1600 3000mhz is good (3200 isn't supported, at least not for me).
As long as your board is good with it go for it.

>>61760243
Google the main board ame, go to the manufacturers side and look under the support tabloid.

>>61759231
i just got a 1700x and i bought ram that was not on the qvl list by accident but it works. I bought corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15W on hella sell. but i can only get it to run at 2133 which is "okay"

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>>61757403
>He didn't buy a VIA cpu+mobo
>He fell for AMD and Intel tricks

>tfw waiting on threadripper to do build
Reee I hope this bucket of bolts holds

>>61760209
You should do a clean install, but its not necessary. It will run unless there is some obscure fuck up. Once took the HDD out of an Q6600 system to use as storage in my current PC with a haswell Xeon. Messed up the boot order and was surprised when windows XP started.

>>61760208
Any kind of ECC, but most likely unregistered, yes
All Ryzen CPUs support it, but few boards do.
The only 3 that I can find are mini-ITX but I need more PCIe slots than that

>>61759998

>like what does an i7/i5 have that makes them better suited?

For gaming purposes? Straight up higher clocks (and the inherent advantage of only being a single socket given the inherent latencies involved in going across sockets). On all other fronts the xeons is the superior chip but the clockspeed advantage is not to be underestimated for gaming purposes.

If you are playing at 1080p your xeon is okay in general but there is no escaping that - depending on what sort of gpu you had in mind - it might not be able to feed your gpu fast enough to really let it run full throttle.

Let's say i want to build a mini box for linux with mostly programming in mind, can I get away with using the integrated graphics of a 3570k?

what are good cooling options for a mini ITX build? considering in this case only the CPU will require much cooling

>>61760437
was contemplating a 1060/70/80 (not 100% sure yet)

how much MS of latency difference would it make?

>>61760437
>if you're only playing X resolution your CPU is fine
resolution and most graphic settings don't affect GPU load at all. Only aspect ratio has some minor influence on that. The CPU doesn't see a fucking difference between the game running at 720p and 4K. That's why most CPU benchmarks are run at 720p, to avoid the chance of GPU limitations.

>>61760474
>how much MS of latency difference would it make?
what latency?

Question kinda belongs to stupid questions, b ut no one answered.
Is there a good month to buy parts for a build? Remembered someone say October or November, is it still true?

>>61760485
>inherent latencies involved in going across sockets
>might not be able to feed your gpu fast enough to really let it run full throttle

>>61760496
whenever a new lineup of whatever part you're after drops is the best time, people will offload their old shit like crazy.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rxnt2R

r8

>>61760364

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvGmZMwXCns

>>61760474

>how much MS of latency difference would it make?

No clue as it is isn't something people test for gaming. I doubt it is likely to be anything world-shattering.

>>61760476

I know cpu workload doesn't change based on resolution but an element of gpu work - drawcalls - does and that is ultimately an entirely cpu based operation.

can somebody give me a story or a link about what's going on with GPU Bitcoin mining watchamacallit? will it get better?

>>61760496
Probably in some countries? No idea. New releases, faggotric miners and supply shortages have a bigger impact on prices though

>>61760528
It has to get better sometime. If it didn't that would be tech companies refusing to take our money.

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What are the cheapest rgb peripherals/component?
I build pcs and sell them and the RGB gaming pcs seem to sell a lot faster and have ≈25-50% more value than others

>>61760528
AMD sells their new Vega GPUs in bundles with CPUs, to deter miners
In the end we will just end up with cheap CPUs on eBay

>>61760511
that just lowers overall CPU performance if communication between sockets is required. It shouldn't have to much of an impact on frametime spikes but lower the CPU limit a bit below what you'd expect for a 1P solution with the same amount of cores.

>>61760525
Amound of drawcalls is mainly affected by level of detail, not resolution. All those fancy drawcall tests that came up with mantle, DX12 and vulkan are barey affected by resolution for example

>>61760528
miners buy gpus to make money with, cook them 24/7 for 6 months, flood the market with crispy cards, buy up all the new stock and drive the prices of working gpus up like crazy
Nobody knows how long it will take. As long as people continue to have faith in cryptocurrency I suppose.

>>61760563
Does your last name contain any of the following:
Shekel
Gold
Silver
Stein

Plus how did you get into that market, and where are you based. Ausfag here, seems like a good way to make money out of my hobby.

>>61760543
> If it didn't that would be tech companies refusing to take our money.
That'd only be true if they had an unlimited amount of products to sell. Sadly they don't, that's why miners hogging up everything that reaches the market fucks prices up. But it's already improving a bit

>>61760563
Is there seriously a market for this shit?
Damn, I could take this up myself.
>>61760594
I'm lucky I bought right before the boom.

>>61756268
>Would I need a beefier PSU if I wanted to overclock?
Not really, 520W is fine
>Lastly, would I be better off waiting for an RX580 8gb to come into stock?
Yes

>>61757801
GTX1050/RX560

>>61760496
the runner up components always drop significantly in price once a new "bleeding edge" is established.

if you dont need to unload your previous system right away to free up cash you can always build a new rig on instalments...

build a new platform but use the gpu from the previous rig until the prices on new cards turns in your favour. if your prior machine has onboard video you can use that as a file server/htpc/back up/support machine.

>>61760589
I live in the Eastern Europe.
I have local store and post pcs on Facebook
The reason people buy pcs i build is because i sell them for a lot cheaper than pre built pcs sold by jewish local companies (ex: 1000$ worth pc is sold for 1800$ i sell the same pc for 1400$)

>>61760660
Fuck, wish I lived in a place that didn't charge exorbitant amounts for shipping and had actual demand for this kind of shit. Feels bad man.

So I got money to burn, what do you think of this build https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/3VXmTH

>>61760513
There's not much to rate, select the entire build and we'll talk.
I would personally get the 1700 non X.
Because it comes with a nice cooler. And it's the same.

>>61760711
did you win a lottery or rob a bank?

>>61760738
i'm only upgrading these parts for now

Good examples of x370 board and memory 3200?

black&white/gray color scheme

im looking at x370 taichi but their qvl list is so tiny and rare and fucking expensive memory

how about gigabyte gaming 5

>>61760711
I think I wish I was you.

>>61760740
it's called good stable job, and discipline spending and saving.

>>61760738
>>61760745
and i already have a fine noctua which offers the am4 kit for free

>>61760711
Buy a Rolex instead if you don't need this computer for work.

>>61760711
Ah yes.
Making stupid desisions with a lot of money.
Do yourself a favor and get ThreadRipper.

>>61760755
Yeah, that's okay, the thing is that what you posted is just too vague to r8. Post entire build or tell us what you're upgrading for.

>>61760711
What's the point of having two of essentially the same hard drives but buying from different places?

>>61760640
Hmm my overall system is kind crappy has nearly 7 years of running time, and I thought of a new build.

>>61760529
yeah, I don't think my country is that gung ho about mining and stuff like "black Friday sales" aren't that lucrative.

>>61760780
it's just the quirk of pcpartpicker I think.

>>61760808
Well what I mean is you could either buy 2 of the same drive from amazon or 2 of the same drive from mindfactory but unless you have some wierd deal there's no point in buying 2 different drives from 2 different places.

>>61760798
most large miners are in countries where power is dirt cheap. Island for example. But even in countries with high energy prices like germany the 480s are only slowly coming back into stock right now, and are still at inflated prices

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>>61760828
Just search for it again and add it twice
>Pic related

I would like to have a home server. What kind of hardware should I look for ? I have read a few anons talking about hpe gen8 being good. Is there any recent hardware similar ? Or should I take a ryzen 3 and built one myself ? I got a 600€ budget.

>>61760942
That entirely depends on what you need it for? Just a small fileserver to archive your 3.5TB of trap porn or a few racks for deep learn exercises for your VR AIfu?

>>61760997
>his trap porn folder is still counted in terabytes
Fucking amateur.

>>61755008
my computer is literally falling apart. Shouldn't have fucked with it so much.

After some time my new gpu in my new build (1050ti) does not put any output. Tried DDU and reinstalling newest driver. What do, /g/?

>>61755008
How much of a meme is QLED for a monitor? Found this Samsung 32" 4K QLED monitor for 700 eurobucks. Is it worth it or should I just get a normal 4K IPS display?

>>61761044
make sure you're not a retard and the monitor is connected to the GPU, not the mainboard. Check if the GPU has a BIOS switch and if switching it changes anything, BIOS might be bricked. Test the computer with the IGP, and if available, a different dedicated PCIe GPU. Test the GPU in a different PC. Send in for warranty if defective.

>>61760997
>>61760942
It will host a mumble server, stream music, host website and i'lll use it to host my porn ofc. We might be 3 or 4 users in the end, and sometimes there are people that compile stuff and program on it

>>61760798
it really depends on how urgently you want to play current gen games at higher settings.

i have like a very staggered and incremental upgrade system:

>build computer A in 2010
>upgrade computer A GPU in 2014
>retain 2010 GPU in spare parts bin
>build computer B in Q1 of 2016
>remove GPU from computer A and use that in computer B
>install original 2010 GPU back into computer A, upgrade with (now) cheap memory and use as HTPC/Server
>upgrade computer B GPU with 1070 in Q1 of 2017
>take 2014 GPU from computer B and return that to computer A

TLDR i never immediately buy a new GPU when i upgrade my system, GPUs are kind of like vidya consoles that happen to reside within your computer.

>>61761066
Covered the retard checklist. I will try a BIOS update (B350 Plus). Maybe it werks. I will also try reinstalling OS/maybe Linux to test if it's a winshit issue?

>>61761061
like OLED it isn't really a meme but a promising technology. But it depends on the implementation. Check if tftcentral or similar sites have a review for the specific monitor, or a different monitor with the same panel.

Should be better than IPS though.

>>61761079
i'd build one myself with a ryzen 3 if it needs a bit of CPU power.

If I have a fix-6300k and 8gigs of ram, should I upgrade my gtx 950 to a gtx 1060 6GB?

>>61761104
If you can't get the card to put out a signal when in BIOS/UEFI it's not an OS related issue. BIOS/UEFI update might fix it if you're lucky.

Easiest way is to just try out a different GPU. That's why i still have an old 8800GT somewhere in my cellar

>>61761146
FX6300? If you want more GPU power there is nothing speaking against it

>>61761129
Last time tftcentral made a review on a samsung display was in 2014 so it's not there no. Gonna look around a bit more. Apparantely BenQ announced a 3440x1440 35" 100hz HDR display which also looks interesting. But it's probably gonna cost my left nut knowing benq.

>>61761079
>>61760942
Bump

>>61760589
>miners buy gpus to make money with, cook them 24/7 for 6 months, flood the market with crispy cards, buy up all the new stock and drive the prices of working gpus up like crazy

only an idiot miner burns his cards , the ones who care underclock and undervolt to save power and not damage the cards

>>61760563
buy 5050 rgb lighting kits , the usually have the exact same pinout and plug as the ones used for pcs and thus are compatible , they are also BRIGHT AS FUCK and cheap as dirt

I need a poorfag build that will give me good KVM speed, I'm going to use it for testing shit inside VMs and gaming inside the Windows VM.

I thought of these possible builds:
>Dual X5690 , windows will be pinned on CPU #2.
>Some kind of E processor
>Maybe Ryzen because cores?

I'm inclined towards the dual x5690, but isn't that a bit too old? Also maybe i'm retarded for trying to cram two use cases on one computer wew.

>>61762188
dual X5690 will coat alot more (esp the board) than a ryzen build whilst taking more power , using slow DDR3 ECC and being slower in general

>>61761153
It gives a signal in BIOS/UEFI. I just tried booting into Linux and it did not get that weird issue again. So it is probably an OS related issue. I am reinstalling Windows 10 pro 64 bit right now.

How does this list look? Anyone think they could file this down to about $700 if possible?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4wj2sJ

Budget
>$1,150 max.
Monitor
>I know almost nothing about monitors, but my current one is 1080p and 60hz

>>61762327
Is there a Ryzen that compares to the 2x 5690 in speed? I'm really dumb when it comes to these newer AMDs. Also how much memory can I put on it?

When will the coin miners madness stop?

In my country, even local TV stations mentioned them and price increase in news, something that never happened before.

Why is there such a big price differential between 1050ti-tier and 1060-tier? Most of what I can find is roughly double the price. $200 window is starved.

>>61762398
>7700k
>1060
What? Get a R1600. And 1080p60hz is perfectly good for 1060.

>>61762406
>compares to dual 5690
Ryzen 1700 , oc that thing a bit and you are faster w/ that in modern applications (14k passmark for the dual xeons , around 16k for the ryzen)
>how much mem
as much as the 4 slots support , 64gb is possible if not more if dimms have become larger

you could invest a bit more and get a Threadripper system , that comes w/ quadchannel memory and you can go ham on that , also moar cores (up to 16c/32t) and 64 pcie lanes on every chip

but will cost ya (id estimate boards to be 300 , the cpus are 550 , 750 and 999 afaik)

>>61762398
Why a 7700k? Any particular reason in mind?

As a quad core that processor is typically used in gaming builds, but with only a 1060 you could save $100+ on the CPU with no difference for most titles. 300 is a good price for the 7700k if you want it though.

If you're a student you can probably get W10 legally for free.

Don't think it's possible to keep the 6gb 1060 and shave it down to $700, but you can get it down to $900 easy if you can cut costs with the CPU/OS.

>>61762458
Shortage caused by miners.

>>61759915
Who has said they're good you retard? I'm saying it's better than getting the G4560, what kind of performance are you expecting from a $50 APU?

>>61762398
Yeah, get this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJxKtJ

The win 10 license can be bought from kingwin.com or someahit like that for $28.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cG2nRG

Just because this is PC building general, I have a weird confession. It's fun and somewhat therapeutic to put together builds on pcpartpicker trying to piece together effective PCs that I know I'll never own. Does anyone else do this?

>>61755008
Okay I'm in Australia I have 2k USD, my current PC is i7-3770, 1050ti, i would like to upgrade to a 21:9, 1440p or 4k monitor

>>61762566
Lel, that CPU does not even unlock all the PCIE lanes

You need a i9 for that.... oh and at LEAST
a 360mmAIO.

x299 is a fucking joke.
Change the CPU for Threadripper and you're golden.

Oh and please select a <$150USD case anything beyond that (for a single CPU) is retarded in any part list.

How is the wraith stealth cooler lads?
Will i be able to r3 1200 to 3.6/7 GHz without it getting too hot?

Britfag here, i'm planning on a whole new system. think i should wait for GPU prices to come down or should i buy most of my new system now just incase... other economic factors put prices up?

>>61762712

>does not even unlock all the PCIe lanes

what. according to Intel's specs it has 28 lanes.

also
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/zqRJ7P
is running that CPU using a 280mm AIO

and that case is fucking beautiful, which is why I like it

So please, explain yourself.

Still rocking the 1150 chipset with a 4790k and 980ti SLI

Just got a promotion at my job and feel like upgrading.

>>61762785
It's kind of a bad time to buy a new system in general. Not only are GPU prices off the chart, but RAM and SSD prices are pretty high as well because smartphones are driving the demand up and manufacturers haven't managed to scale up the production yet. I have no idea whether the said other factors might end up costing you even more if you delay.

>>61762831
Yeah, and the MoBo allows like 44, Intel is cucking the i7s in the X299 plataform.

The i9s have heat problems even with 280mm rads, thats why I mentioned the 360mm. And the case well.. i guess beauty is subjective.

>>61762879

....because they only need to beat the 1800x which has 24 PCIe lanes, and PCIe lanes make chips more expensive in general. And for reference, the i9 has 44 lanes

Also, the build I posted is quoted at a stable 4.8ghz OC from 3.6ghz on an AIO

So what are you talking about?

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>>61755008
its here. top exhaust or front intake?

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>>61762983

I've got a Corsair H115i as an intake and my temps are literally lower than room temperature at idle, even with a 4.6 o/c

>>61762961
>....because they only need to beat the 1800x which has 24 PCIe lanes
1900 is still cheaper and has 48.

>>61763017

1. PCIe lane comparison is ultimately pointless if you're trying to compare these two chips. If you're running two GPUs in SLI, you'll see negligible performance gains between 16x and 8x.

2. Yes let us all get on the next AMD bandwagon, full of RAM issues, OS issues, lack of motherboard variety, etc. Oh I just can't wait to see how this threadripper stuff plays out. Or you can be smart/lazy/jewish/whatever and buy an Intel chip, pop it in, and have no issues.

>>61763168
>Or you can be smart/lazy/jewish/whatever and buy an Intel chip, pop it in, and have no issues.
Apart from overheating motherboard VRM, you mean.

What are some of the best 1080p/60hz high quality monitors that are good for gaming, productivity, general use, and look beautiful?

i know currency miners have driven prices up recently with GPUs but I'm just wondering what /g/ would recommend to replace a GTX 780

>>61763231
Depends what resolution/fps you want to play at. If you're lucky you might be able to snatch up a vega card when it releases so the price is still normal. Don't count on that though.

>>61763216

>overheating motherboard VRM

Any chip/motherboard/GPU can cause an overheating issue. Please show me how/where this is Intel specific

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My i7-6700k running on stock 4-4,2Ghz have around 20C on idle, 55-65C during typical load and can go up to 75-80C during heavy load with NH-U12S cooler. I thought that I should get lower temps with it.

What Im doing wrong? No I checked the paste before.

>>61763390
>Any chip/motherboard/GPU can cause an overheating issue. Please show me how/where this is Intel specific
Literally look at ANY skylake-X review.

>>61763231
That card is still doing well. If you don't know what to upgrade to, you shouldn't be upgrading

>>61762468
Welp, fuck me, I wanted the X5690 because it was going to cost me $500 or smt with 48GB RAM.
I have about $700 so I guess ryzen and threadripper aren't options then, I'll probably just wait some more.

>>61762742
yes, it's even enough for modest OC of the R5 6 cores

Bought last 580 and 1060 6gb msi cards for 221

>>61763461
http://wccftech.com/intel-core-x-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-overclocking-temperature-performance/

this was the first result on google for skylake x temperatures

on a corsair H100i (240mm radiator), the temps never exceed 81c

I'm thinking about upgrading my 1080p monitor to a 1440p one in the future but I want to use it for both console and pc gaming. Do ps4 games look on awful on 1440p monitors?

>>61763599
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/-intel-skylake-x-overclocking-thermal-issues,5117.html

>>61763599
>wccftech

>>61763755

also in that article

>Admittedly, most workstation or semi-pro users won't overclock, cutting down on the number of customers affected by this problem.

But the real thing to consider is
1900x base clock = 3.8, max o/c should be about 4.1 to 4.2 based on 1800x info

7900x base clock = 3.6, while people hitting 4.5 to 4.6

So the architecture is much stronger, but at the cost of higher temperatures. So what do we do? Blame Intel for building a strong chip when it clocks 10% over AMD chips but yields 10% higher temperatures?

The real bugger with this (and with a lot of tech problems) is the end user. They ask for freedom with modification but then complain when they fall victim to the issues that happen.

>>61763893
>Blame Intel for building a strong chip when it clocks 10% over AMD chips but yields 10% higher temperatures?
How about "Blame Intel for being cheap fucks and using shitty TIM instead of solder and rushing the release so the motherboard manufacturers didn't have time to iron out the bugs"?

>>61763893

It's actually pretty similar to the auto industry. People take sporty-ish cars and then add on big turbochargers, then when the engine blows they make it sound like the manufacturer was in the wrong. Same thing with chips like the 7700k. You have access to a 5.0ghz clock, but point fingers when it runs hot in programs like Prime95 and during encoding? Why not scale the clock/voltage back a bit, run your encoding with good temperatures, then boost it back up when running something less CPU intensive?

It's like the PC community doesn't understand basic engineering....oh wait that's because they all took comp sci....

>>61763893
>So the architecture is much stronger
No. It clocks higher due to a different architecture and at least to some degree a better process. Bought by worse efficiency, but that only really matters in server environments. Higher clockspeeds don't necessarily make an architecture better. Remember bulldozer or netburst? Those chips clocked higher than the competition at the time and still sucked.

>but at the cost of higher temperatures
A high delta T at that power consumption and die size is a sign of a weak link in the cooling chain, nothing else.

>Blame Intel for building a strong chip when it clocks 10% over AMD chips but yields 10% higher temperatures?
Blame intel from using toothpaste instead of solder to connect die and IHS to save 0.02$ per shipped unit? And giving boardpartners specs that result in boards cooking their VRMs to shit and leading to emergency throttling?

>>61762853
Currency torpedoing mostly, more than it already has. By next year sterling could be worth less than a dollar.

>>61764095
nice, wanted to spend some vacation in england anyways

>>61764048

>clocks higher due to a different architecture
Then why does this happen with 8c/16t? I mean...if it's not stronger...

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>>61764172
pic related

>>61763982
Intel has told people not to overclock 7700k because of temp issues.

THEY TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO OVERCLOCK THEIR K SERIES WHICH PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY BOUGHT TO OVERCLOCK.

How ridiculous is that?

>>61764172
Mainly due to higher clockspeed. The point was that higher clockspeed alone doesn't make an architecture stronger or weaker. It's just one factor

>>61764201

I think the point of that press release was to stick with the 4.5ghz turbo vs the 7700 4.2ghz turbo, rather than crank it up to 5.0ghz and be surprised when it runs hot

4.5ghz vs 5.0 is a huge increase. Especially considering the 6700k goes from 4.0 to 4.6 reliably.

>>61763982
>buy special overclocking cpu
>buy special overclocking mobo
>get told not to overclock
*sad trumpet*

>tfw vega 56 partner cards are coming a month later
Im too desperate so im probably going to buy the founders edition

>>61764273

I do find it amusing that outside of the P4 emergency edition AMD is the one that tends to (eventually) release cpus that are clocked balls-to-the-wall for a given architecture whereas Intel tends not to.

>>61764313

yeah too bad that doesn't make them better CPUs >>61764193

>>61764374

Protip: 500mhz and double the memory bandwidth does wonders for cinebench scores.

Is the 1700 even worth the extra $90? I would just be gaming with some FL Studio work. Is the 1700 more future proof or is that just a meme

>>61764927
I would say that 6/12 is more than enough for the foreseeable future.

>>61764965
thanks friend

Day of the rope for cryptofags when?

>>61765101
Just after the gamerfags go

>>61758575
>using standard PCI hardware with Windows 10

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>>61765101
>tfw a whole generation grows out of video games faster thanks to crypto currency

>>61764927
Buy R5 1600 and save the money. If Zen+/Zen2 comes out and has competitive clock speeds around 4.5GHz then upgrade to that. At least the AM4 platform has some upgrade options unlike Intel who are restricting Coffee Lake to yet another socket.

>>61765101
Not soon enough

>>61764201
Hey guys we cheaped out on thermal interface material and just used chewing to save shekels.

>>61765316
same socket, new chipset

>>61755008
is that a pickello doll from dragonballz with human arms on that shelf in OP's pic?

>waiting to buy a GPU

No, the GPUs won't become cheaper or will have better availability.

You are kidding yourself, if you think you will get ahold of a Vega card.

All those cards will left the factory straight to the miners.

PC gaming is dead in a few years.

>>61765433
My bad. It's LGA 1151 v2. The Z370 boards are going to be repurposed Z270s to ensure stock availability but current Z270s will be locked out. Z390 is also due out in 2018 and then another chipset for Cannon Lake.

Really wrangles my jangles

>>61765531
Surely the manufacturers will have to split their product lines. Cards that are custom built for their high hash rate and then proper gaming cards that are going to suck ass at mining. Otherwise they risk alienating their customers.

Or they'll just carry on regardless and gamers will continue paying $500 for a $300 card.

>>61765554
yeah it's ridiculous. Not like there's important stuff on modern mainboards anymore to begin with, but they gotta squeeze another few bucks for chipsets out of the customer

>>61765628
>implying manufacturers fucking care how they sell their cards

No they don't, also they can sell it to the miners for a higher average price, driving the prices up.

They couldn't care less about the standard costumers.

Just saying

>>61764295
Same desu. Everything I want to play runs like shit on my GTX 760. Bored out of my mind.

>>61765677
that's not the entire truth, they still want to keep their customer base, miners will stop buying cards at some point

AMDFAGS BTFO

>>61760711
drop a 1080ti and change the PSU to something under 1k watts, and use that money to get yourself a reasonable fucking CPU cooler.

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Hi I did my first build and everything is okay but I am getting this odd colorization on anything that is pure black. It looks like static and it is moving. Anyone have any clue as to what this is and what to do? I have my HDMI connected to my GPU.

>>61765906
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>>61765783
> get yourself a reasonable fucking CPU cooler.
lol and what "reasonable" cooler would you suggest an AIO like the ones from cooler master or nzxt?

so is the threadripper true baller or just hype?

>>61765899
Update I just noticed that it only does this on my one monitor

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>>61766124

Make sure your colour is set correctly in the gpu control panel. I am unfamiliar with Nvidia's layout but this is where AMD has the setting.

>>61765999
will probably be the best HEDT platform in this generation. I see no reason why it should fail, and intel dropped the ball really hard with skylake X. Don't know why it's hyped though, it only serves a really tiny fraction of the market, normal people don't buy systems like that

>>61766210
Thank you Anon

>tfw just paid £360 ($470) for a 1070
REEEEE fuck buttminers

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>you just got to mine bro
>salty gamers bitching about prices when theyre idling all the time. it's their own fault

>>61766335
Everyone's still shocked that AMD remembered how to make good CPUs again

>>61766665
understandable, and them taking the desktop performance crown out of nothing is really respectable. I'm just glad it turned out that well, finally competition again. We probably would've had 6 cores in normal desktops 4 years ago if it weren't for them barely staying in business

>>61766335
hypothetically what could ruin threadripper? Intel has nothing to counter it right?

>>61766931
You don't pull a whole CPU line/architecture out of your ass on no notice, that's why AMD was so screwed for so long when Bulldozer couldn't live up to the hype

Intel needs to come up with something spiffy for the next round

>>61766931
Worst case the latency caused by the separate dies could be too high for some use cases, like DAWs and stuff.

>>61766931
some obscure problem with the platform. That seems unlikely though since it's literally just server SP3 socket repurposed for desktop boards. If there is a serious problem with the CPU or platform that isn't already fixed AMD would have a massive problem. But then again that's unlikely, they got a competitive CPU, they wouldn't want to loose server vendors trust by fucking this up.

The nice thing for them is that they even learned from the trainwreck that is X299 and their X399 boards come with beefy VRM coolers.

Anyone know of any good 1080p monitors for about $150 CAD ($120 USD)

How do I ensure I get an rx vega before theyre sold out?

>>61767643
suck LinusTechTips' dick