/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

first for /flt/ was here since july 2015
gnu must fuck off

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>the state of this general
generals were a mistake

>>61751754
> communist shirt
Come on OP, we know what happens when you try to use a political image for a general.

>>61751797
don't fork something that didn't need forking next time, jew-lover

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>>61751792
Feel free to stay here when you're done with hatered and exclusion.

>>61751811
leave the thread unfriendly pol interloper

>>61751819
i don't your permission to be present on a tech board, you need our permission to discuss ideology here and you don't have it. therefore gtfo.

It's time to face the facts. Richard Stallman is nothing more than a whining, overly obese autistic manbaby who has not done anything beneficial for the computing OR technology world in the past 20 years. Seriously. Name something that RMS has done after 1995 besides bitching, crying, and moaning about bullshit that does not matter, or making some retarded, incomprehensible speech.

He demands that Linux be called GNU/Linux. That is fucking insane. The only reason GNU, GPL, and FSF are still a THING is because of Linus and the invention of Linux. If anything, Stallman should rename GNU to Linux/GNU, because without Linus, the GNU, GPL, and FSF would not be a thing anymore.

Stallman still has the fucking gonads to act like he's superior to everyone else. Saying shit such as "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone" right after Steve Jobs' death. What an asshole. Stallman has not even programmed a single line of code since 2008, that was AFTER he essentially stopped in 1992.

He should be fucking grateful Linus stepped in to save his ass, and even allowing him to take partial credit for his achievements. If it wasn't for Linus, he would be nothing, he would probably be dead in a Burger King dumpster right now.

Besides, what has he ever even done? He claims to have written eMacs, but in reality he actually cloned gosmacs (the first eMacs that was made for UNIX). He didn't even write 50% of the code in eMacs.

You might say he wrote GCC and GDB, but the truth is that he initally wrote the C compiler, but now the vast majority for the same compiler is done by contributors.

He's a washed up, morbidly obese man who tries to stay relevant by having these retarded arguments that are similar to those found in the Soviet Union. Face it GNU/Freetards, Richard Stallman is a fat dickhead, and the only reason his name is still in the books is because of Linus's achievements

link to the chat you people are coordinating in

>>61751964
this

>In some ways, Linux was the project that really made the split clear between what the FSF is pushing which is very different from what open source and Linux has always been about which is more of a technical superiority instead of a — this religious belief in freedom.

>There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
>-- Linus Torvalds

Don't call it GNU/Linux. It gives Stallsham undue credit. He's done nothing but take credit for the work of others and has the audacity to call himself a Doctor when he couldn't even finish his Masters.

wrote emacs
Contributed to guy steele's TECO macros, later cloned gosmacs, the actual first emacs for UNIX. If stallman wrote emacs, apple is the sole creator of webkit.
wrote gcc and gdb
He wrote the C compiler initially, but the vast majority of development for other compilers and the C compiler has came from non-stallman sources.

And he hasn't programmed in years. Stallman is washed up, and his justifications for copyleft are horribly invalid nonsense that would make more sense if they were actual thinly veiled communism instead of selfish ramblings and a desire for a world that catered to his specific social class.

Reminder: GNU and FSF exists because Richard "M" Stallman got a hissyfit at a printer being propriatary, yet printers are still propriatary. Richard Stallman has contributed literally nothing to the world.

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>>61751833
Why so much hate tho. ;_; I thought this community is about friendship and sharing, not hate.

>>61751966
It's called 'we want /g/ to be a tech board, now gnu must fuck off'

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Just installed Xubuntu
Recommend me apps and ricing tools!!
(mostly doing school work on this computer)

Nobody talk about gnu in a linux thread, OK?
No wait...that sounds pretty fucking retarded.
Nevermind.

>>61752005
because
>>61751792
FPBP

>>61752019
Here the usualy supects:
opebox, i3-gaps, bspwm, awesomewm, xmonad, dwm, polybar, lemonbar, urxvt, termite, rofi, dmenu, dmenu2, tint2. That's enough for now, gtfo.

>>61752033
What's retarded about that? The discussion of GNU is not relevant. Ideological discussion belongs on /pol/.
Let's be honest, you're not here to discuss anything tech-related, because you haven't done anything like that since you trash got here. I've been watching since you had the gall to post your first few threads. You've only ever talked about your GNU shit, not tech. Time to go back.

How long does following LFS and BLFS takel?

>>61752091
could reddit pls leave this thread?

>/flt/ has been here over 2 years.

https://warosu.org/g/thread/S49808959

It's right here, July 2015, first documented /flt/

>>61752106
>people were believing in a flat earth before

>>61752106
kek. this is the one post I think they hate the most, because it's impossible for them to refute and so far I don't think I have seen one of them seriously try.
>>61752102
reddit is who comes here after we of 4chan create something and tries to take the credit, ergo you are the reddit ITT, read my comments above

>make your thread
>still come here and try to recruit others to go to it too or it will die

>>61752133
All your toe-jam memes woun't help you when you really get what you want: a spyware OS like Android for the desktop. Think about the price you pay when spreading your bullshit memes.

>>61752075
Yes people shouldn't sperg about gnu here. So stop it already. Anti gnu fags are just as bad as gnu fags.

>>61752200
Hey anon, if you don't like the GNU system, uninstall it right now and fuck off.

I hope you feel bad every time you run "ls" on your "it's really Alpine LoL" system.

>>61752184
>typical /pol/ scaremongering
>"let us do your thinking for you, goy"
>"hmm trust us you dumb fucks"
go the fuck back. your mask is slipping, kike shit.

>>61752223
You replied to the wrong post...

>>61752228
GNU is literally a movement to make you not have to rely on trusting anyone.

Are you retarded or something?

>>61752111
>Oh, and he calls himself doctor though he holds no PhD.
I didn't know that. I thought he had actually earned a doctorate somewhere along the way.

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>>61752223
They just try to infect you with the poison called hate. Don't join the madness.

>>61752279
They spread bullcrap allover, spam this thread with bullcrap and tell newfriends that GNU / GPL is somehow a bad thing
People learn bullshit when we don't fix it

>>61751996
>GNU and FSF exists because Richard "M" Stallman got a hissyfit at a printer being propriatary,
Yep. It's funny to think that if Stallman had been given access to that printer driver's source, he might have just stayed wrapped up in his own little autistic world at MIT.

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/48969412/#48969412

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/48969412/#48969412


https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/48969412/#48969412

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/48969412/#48969412


https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/48969412/#48969412

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/48969412/#48969412

>>61752265
It's honorary.

>>61752340
It's called "bait", anon. A classic troll concept.

stallman does weird shit and has weird views but how is that a reason to hate him

>>61752090
It depends on whether you make mistakes and how fast your CPU is. It ranges from several hours to days.

That's for LFS. You would likely not install every single package in BLFS. Getting X and a nice assortment of programs installed would take any where from several additional hours to days. Add more time if you want one of the heavyweight DEs like KDE or GNOME.

After that, you'll likely spend a significant amount of time making tweaks and doing configuration. Also things like tracking down firmware.

What's currently the best Arch-Installer for lazy people like me?

does anyone here use the suckless suite? I am trying to learn dwm/dmenu/st and it sure is hard

>>61752494
antergos is arch with an installer and a custom theme, not like manjaro which uses its own repos

>>61752494
There's arch-anywhere, which is really just an installer for Arch, but try installing it manually. It's not that hard. If you are new, it may take you 2 hours to a complete system with everything you like, without anything you dislike.

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/48653055/#48653055

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/48653055/#48653055

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/48653055/#48653055

First ever Friendly Linux thread

Now that's been settled, you can go back to re dit or /pol/ or whatever turd you crawled out from

>>61752599
maybe you should go back in time kiddo

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>>61751996
>from the GNU project is born the GNU OS
>powers the vast majority of web servers on the planet

Stallman's done nothing!

>>61752629
O-Okay. Will you hold my hand?

I want my friendly thread back.
Wtf is this bullshit with 2 threads.

>>61752629
I would love to go back in time to when communism didn't exist yet.
>>61752695
Not gonna happen. These GNU cunts pulled one 'I'd like to interject' too many. Now they have to go back, we got pushed around way too long and stayed quiet, now it's time to hit these jewish communist bastards back to aushcwitz.

>>61752714
I hope you enjoy life in the early 1800's, anon.

>>61752695
There's that /pol/ phoneposter, online 24/7, and there was that one day when he went mad.
Look closly at the posts and you'll see the most le jews/gnu commies, etc shitposts are made by him.
>no spaces between interpunktion and new sentence

>>61752729
No reason not to. Probably a lot more pussy around then without all this feminist shit. And the jews were a homeless people as they should have remained, kicked out from one nation to the next. lol. Stallkike would have been my servant or something.

Seriously FLT guys.
You have your own thread.
Go there. Stay there.
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>>61752738
,Im not a phoneposter,

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>>61752738
The way to spot redditors is use of line-spacing.
Not a phoneposter btw.

Please just stay on your own containment general.
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>>61752775
Well, then you're just too stupid to type. Anyway, it's easy to discover that the /flt/ thing is a one man army thing.

>>61752757
>>61752802
Could use some bumps here, guys.

>>61752789
>The way to spot redditors is use of line-spacing.
Why?

>>61752802
This is a fake thread a gnu poster has made.Old thead isnt at bump limit.
He is going to get people to post and then delete the thread "for teh epyc lulz".
FAKE THERAD DONT POST

>>61752803
You were able to read it,and thats really all that matters,you being anal about MUH GRAMMUAHS is irrelevent to me,if you really have that much time in your life to critque people on the interwebs,you must have one pathetic life

>>61752714
If you were forced into something by one too many interjections then isn't it ironic that you are doing the same shit now. Did you take a moment to think that maybe there was a better way to handle keeping ideological agendas out of tech threads than to start spamming your own ideology?

how do you manage everything when you have a tiling window manager? in xfce I just go to the settings manager, but in a tiling wm how do I set suspend on close and other things? include it all in the script you call with your wm.desktop exec line?

May I friendly ask /flt/ people to go back to their thread until they are done hating?

>>61752839
Go to your containment thread and stop bothering the grownups.

>>61752899
>>61752900
Stop making fake /flt threads and i will

>>61752889
Suspend in closer should be managed in /etc/acpi and by acpid
But yeah, you configure stuff from shell scripts.

>>61752752
>A lot more pussy around
Enjoy your syphilis and rapid demise

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>>61752904

>>61752957
unironically kek'd irl

>>61751981
>I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
The irony.

so I should have the exec line call a script that starts the wm, sets the wallpaper with feh, enables right click on the touchpad, disables the touchscreen etc. all in one script?

>>61753017
fug meant to quote >>61752925

Does anyone have the feh script that one anon posted some weeks ago?

>>61753017
What exec line?

>>61753053
Ill post it in he /flt thread for you

>>61753060
well im using lightdm so the wm.desktop exec line but I guess in .xinitrc for most people

>>61753053
https://pastebin.com/RxbRRjzY

>>61753053
I saved it: http://ix.io/yUZ

>>61753017
99% of your settings will be in .config/i3/config or something like that. (I haven't used i3 in a while.) Google a good example template and you should be set.
lxappearance is the easy way to set your gtk theme window styles and such.

How in the world do you get audio working with nvidia cards? I used to use amd but then switched to nvidia, hadn't used my TV then but now with nvidia I dont get any audio. Aplay shows nothing nvidia lspci shows the nvidia audio though at least
I've
>modprobbed snd_hda_codec_hdmi specificying vendor and product
>blacklisted intel audio shit
>disabled integrated audio as I use a soundcard anyways
>disabled integrated intel gpu
>disabled iommu
and still nothing

every solution I've found is either they're an idiot and had it available under aplay just not selected or one of the above "solutions" that i've tried

I feel like I'm going crazy

>>61753063
meh
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>>61753101
Thx, thats the one I lost.

>>61753116
Install pulseaudio.Not meming its perfect for things like this

>>61753107
>>61753101
Oh dear, I remember that script. Helped that other anon who made it with a snippet.
>tfw there was a time when we all just were friends
Good times.

>>61753295
still are, just in a hiatus for however long it takes for that one dude to get bored.

>>61753318
Its more then just me.Check the post counts, multiple posts within seconds of each other :^)

>>61753172
forgot to mention, tried that too, doesn't show up either

>>61753385
Did you configure alsa to look to pulse in your .asoundrc?

>>61753403
admittingly no but if the card doesn't even show up in pauvcontrol is there even a point?

>>61753338
Fuck off Linus

>>61753116
I have proprietary nvidia drivers and a 960

$ lspci | grep -i nvid
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (rev a1)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0fba (rev a1)
$ lspci -vs "01:00.1"
...
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel

And it shows up in aplay -L, lots.

>>61753083
Exec is the part where whatever program you're launching replaces the calling program within the same process.

> enables right click on the touchpad, disables the touchscreen etc
Can, probably should, be done in a script before calling the WM. xinitrc is a shell script, and the LightDM config files aren't, so you would call a xinitrc-ish script from LightDM if you're going that route.

> sets the wallpaper with feh
You could do something fucky like

while feh <args>; do sleep 300; done &

before the exec call if feh can run without X. Which I'm not sure it does. Probably something that needs to be called from from a WM configuration file.

>>61753919
>Exec is the part where whatever program you're launching replaces the calling program within the same process.
The day when I learned about this, I stopped using stupid resource and reset aliases and just use exec bash. So much better!

>>61752652
The GNU project never completed their OS, and GNU Hurd does not power the vast majority of web servers on the planet. Except for a few low-usage toy servers, it doesn't power any.

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/flt/ is a MESS

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There is not enough r34 of this dragon

How is Void Linux these days? Worth setting up as my workstation? I heard the kernal has proprietary blobs.

>>61754080
Why the fuck are you still here, when you've got 3 /flt/ threads to chose from?

>>61754142
>>61752957

tried installing unity tweak tool
now I can't move/resize/or alt-tab windows

Help me please I need to finish a paper this is what I get for lollygagging FUCK

>>61754247
>>61752966

>>61754142
Thats how the other troll killed /desktop thread/ back then; thread spam.

>>61754237
I don't know who you think you're addressing, but that was my first post in this thread.

Are you suffering from mental illness?

>>61754283
>4 loosy threads
the desktop thread attack was like 20 threads

>>61754286
Sorry bout that.
Forgive me for not believing you.

>>61754348
No problem.

>>61754265
I FIXED HA
I USED
xfmw4 --replace

now can someone explain to me what the fuck i did pls

>>61751754
Nice OP pic choice, OP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara_in_fashion
> Ironically, Che Guevara's longevity as a cultural symbol has been thanks to the very economic system he sought to destroy

>>61754427
stop attacking gnu mom :(

>>61751754
10/10 would fuck hot chubby granny asshole

>>61753660
Thanks a bunch man, worked perfectly
I dont know why I was seeing shit for snd_hda_codec_hdmi everywhere I looked but that sda_hda_intel did the trick

Names convey meanings; our choice of names determines the meaning of what
we say. An inappropriate name gives people the wrong idea. A rose by any name
would smell as sweet—but if you call it a pen, people will be rather disappointed
when they try to write with it. And if you call pens “roses,” people may not re-
alize what they are good for. If you call our operating system “Linux,” that con-
veys a mistaken idea of the system’s origin, history, and purpose. If you call it
“GNU/Linux,” that conveys (though not in detail) an accurate idea.

But does this matter for our community? Is it important whether people know
the system’s origin, history, and purpose? Yes—because people who forget his-
tory are often condemned to repeat it. The Free World that has developed around
GNU/Linux is not secure; the problems that led us to develop GNU are not com-
pletely eradicated, and they threaten to come back.

When I explain why it’s appropriate to call the operating system “GNU/Linux”
rather than “Linux,” people sometimes respond this way:

Granted that the GNU Project deserves credit for this work, is it really
worth a fuss when people don’t give credit? Isn’t the important thing that
the job was done, not who did it? You ought to relax, take pride in the
job well done, and not worry about the credit.

This would be wise advice, if only the situation were like that—if the job were
done and it were time to relax. If only that were true! But challenges abound, and
this is no time to take the future for granted. Our community’s strength rests on
commitment to freedom and cooperation. Using the name GNU/Linux is a way for
people to remind themselves and inform others of these goals.

>>61754486
>And if you call pens “roses,” people may not re-
>alize what they are good for.
That is such an excellent analogy.
>Our community
There are many different people with different opinions in "our community" I would ask you to respect that.
>Using the name GNU/Linux is a way for people to remind themselves and inform others of these goals.
This betrays an elitist point of view in which you assume that everyone but you is braindead or ignorant. I assure you, that is not the case.

The fact that Linux users can't even agree to a name proves why Linux will never replace Windows. This is pathetic.

>>61754586
GNU/Linux users*

>>61754611
Linux users*

>>61754611
systemd enjoyers*

>>61754586
Why can't we just agree that GNU/Linux is the full name, Linux is the short version. It's like saying Microsoft Windows or just Windows

>>61754625
Linux is a kernel. You maybe already use it on your phone, being the backend of your Android OS.

>>61754545
It was pulled from Stallman's selected essays. The guy is totally nuts.

It's the intejection. Stop interjecting.

>>61754713
fuck off. if you didn't care about identity you wouldn't be shilling for a different community

>>61754635
Except it's not at all like that, because while Microsoft made Windows, GNU did not make Linux. GNU code is a very small part of almost any so-called "GNU/Linux" distribution. Freedesktop has more lines of code in most Linux distributions than does GNU. It would be more reasonable to call it Freedesktop/Linux.

>>61754746
Interjections are funny and keep GNU on topic, which isn't a bad thing. That guy should grow some thicker skin if a meme makes him THAT buttblasted that he needs to shit on GNU, GPL and free software in general just because he got interjected.

>>61754807
>Interjections are funny
Oh my fucking god, really?
>and keep GNU on topic
No, they try to change the subject by nitpicking irrelevancies from someones post and ignoring the actual content.

in Gentoo, what is the proper way to install a program from source that's not from a repository? I am assuming if I just do a make / make install it will create a mess since the package manager is oblivious. what is the correct procedure?

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Can we just come up with an entirely new name that doesn't pay homage or favoritism to any particular group?

Because it just occurred to me that what really defines this OS is just the circle of developers and its community. If all distros suddenly decided to migrate to a new kernel and all the same devs followed along and I just received this new kernel in an update one day, I would still mentally think of it as being the same OS just with a new kernel, and if we completely got rid of GNU and had totally new userland, if it was the same devs and same big name distros that migrate to it I'd still view it as the same operating system too.

What we have here is more than just "Linux" and "Linus" and "GNU" (and yes it's more than systemd too poettering get it through your fucking skull).
In fact I think having a name that doesn't belong to ANY group is the most real representation of what this OS is.

Please submit your proposals for new names.
I propose calling it Spergux

>>61754800
GNU is the framework anon. GNU (GNU's Not Unix), is an operating system, made in the 80s to have and use an unix-like system in freedom. When Linus set Linux free (it wasn't free software til mid 90s), there was no point to develop Hurd anymore and people added Linux to the GNU system. Both parts developed based on this framework. Todays distributions ofc contain lots and more lots of free software, all based on the roots of the free software movement from the 80s, but they aren't part of GNU and they aren't part of Linux, so starting with
>GNU is a very small part
is just as silly as saying
>Linux is a very small part

>>61754943
based dmr
>Spergux
I don't want to encourage more sperging so I will not support that name.

>>61754977
how about alpine? how would you call it?

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>had a corrupted drive for years
>thought it was ded
>try plugging it in and fixing it with windows cd
>can't detect it
>try Ubuntu live cd
>Ubuntu not only sees it but with g partition I was able to format it and it works fine

>>61755037
Stallman calls it GNU/Linux for some reason even though it doesn't have GNU

After four good years on Arch, I'm considering going back to Windows.
I spend 98% of my time on arch, dual booting win for casual gaming. Only now I've realized that I can keep developing stuff on Windows somewhat comfortably.
This is a friendly request to convince me not to.

>>61754977
>and people added Linux to the GNU system
Err, that seems like an inversion of history desu. People chose Linux (the kernel) as an alternative to BSD, that it also had a clean-room userspace surely factored into their decision but they certainly didn't say "Oh I know, lets avoid AT&T by using the GNU system. Now, what kernel shall we use with it...". Because at that time (and still today) the userspace was more of a fungible piece of the whole than the kernel. Because so much money was spent on hardware and the kernel is what decides hardware support. You can tell this by the fact that people have historically called operating systems with the linux kernel "Linux Distros".
I'm not saying that GNU isn't great but twisting words like that surely doesn't help your case.

>>61755037
I'm pretty fine with calling Alpine a Linux system, since Alpine is basically just the kernel and a stripped down userland in order to be a very small system.
>>61755054
He doesn't. Fuck off with your memes.
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#justlinux

>>61755067
>I can keep developing stuff on Windows somewhat comfortably
I haven't actually seen any decent reviews of WSL (if that's what you are talking about) from people actually using it seriously. But I am starting a new job tomorrow where I will probably be using windows so I may have some feedback soon.

>>61755067
Giving in to the botnet for convenience sadly also means approving its existence, it says 'it's ok what you're doing, go ahead, its ok for me and pretty much for everyone else.'

>>61755146
I use windows myself on a second hdd, but it's nothing but a gaming toy for me. I do my serious shit on Debian. I think thats the most convenient thing, best of both worlds and all info they may spy on me are some gaming ragequits. Not a fan of dual booting and too stupid for gpu-passthrough.

>>61755211
>all info they may spy on me are some gaming ragequits
maybe thats the whole point of the WSL
they want people to do serious shit on windows again

>>61755257
The WSL is a giant Microsoft-Canonical-Linux Foundation circlejerk, everyone rubbing each others dick:
>Bash on Ubuntu on Windows: After suffering from Linux Mint #1 on distrowatch, Canonical is great again and known for "serious business"
>Windows back on the top for developers
>Red Hat also wants a piece of the cake
>companies stuff money into the Linux Foundation
>Fedora appears on WSL
>a bit late, like always, but here is OpenSUSE

I mean, nothing against making money, but the whole thing is just extremly embrassing. Acting like VMs don't exist, acting like there's a new tech revolution. And worst of all: Shilling Windows to the community, which CEOs called Linux "communist cancer" in the past and they are still like that, they just don't say it because beeing busy monetizing "Microsoft <3 Linux".

The WSL is golden painted horse shit.

>>61755257
Yeah. I think it is a responsed to posix systems getting developer mindshare because you can compile for windows on them too.

>>61755405
>companies stuff money into the Linux Foundation
How does this follow and why is it bad?

>>61754142
>>61754247
>>61754283
>>61751792
>>61752106
>>61752904

/flt/ is an abomination. It was founded by retards. Allowing retarded people to fork /fglt/ is PURE FUCKING STUPID

It is the kind of stupid worth killing people over.

This is stupid that is worth mass murder.

This is why I support 9/11-style attacks against /flt/. I support bombs detonated in /flt/. I support
murder of /flt/ posters. I support torture of family members of /flt/ posters. I support murdering pets of /flt/ posters. I support
acid attacks against /flt/ posters. I support disemboweling /flt/ posters. I support dumping driveway sealer on the automobiles of /flt/ posters. I support harassment and psychological torture of /flt/ posters. I support turning /flt/ into a living hell.

Murdering /flt/ posters is, in my mind, justice. /flt/ is an experiment that should be terminated, and the damage done
by them is so severe that mass murder is the appropriate course of action.

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>>61755717
A-anon, you're poisoned with hate. Let it go, it's dangerous.

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Why aren't you posting rare stallmans in /flt/ anon?

>>61755717
i knew freetards were secretly stalinists

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>>61755717
/FLT/ IS EVEN USING OUR FUCKING STICKY WHAT THE FUCK

>>61755717
Reported to the FBI.

>>61755717
why do you have the same phrasing as the anon that actively posts against gnu? You aren't the same guy, right?

>>61755988
,Dont worry buddy, im still here

>>61755988
No. I only post pro GNU.

>>61751996
Postscript printers are widely available now. "Printer drivers" are for plastic shitware sold to gullible Windows users.

>GNUfags think they have the moral high ground
>raid other threads
Hmmm.

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>>61755988
You should really take your meds.

>>61755999
Ah, so you are? good to know

People that think GNU should be part of Linux's name are all big fat faggot sperglords who want to suck rms's cock.

>>61756041
why are you talking to yourself?

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wtf with this thread?

>>61756205
Containment thread for all the political ideology that gnutards spout.
This is a tech board, not a politics board, go to >>>/pol/ if you want to discuss politics

>>61756205
>>>/g/flt

>>61756072
I think it should just be called the GNU system

>>61756296
Finish Hurd if you want a true GNU (it will never happen)

>>61756308
There's no point anon, we have Linux as kernel, since Linus luckily freed it by licensing it with the GPL so we use it in GNU/Linux.

>>61756322
Linux*

Also Hurd was shit to begin with

>>61756338
It technically is the superior concept, simply because it follows the new micro-scheme instead of the basically obsolete mono-scheme like Linux does. But well, Linux is good, and Hurd while still being in development, not a high-priority project anymore, which explains the slow development.

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Posted in the other thread, but gonna try here as well.
>installing gentoo
Any tips youd guys like to throw out there I wont find in the handbook? amd64/desktop profile on a 7(?) year old shitty dell 1018 mini. looking to squeeze as much performance I can outta this little feller.

>>61756308
The goal of GNU isn't competition; it's a free system and people can have it with Linux. There's no point to finish Hurd.

>>61756366
Microkernels are a meme. Monolithic kernels aren't.

>>61756375
nigga even NT is a microkernel hybrid
do you even tech

>>61756388
And Windows (OS X too) are shit from the bit of microkernel design they have

>>61756366
>the superior concept, simply because it follows the new micro-scheme instead of the basically obsolete mono-scheme
Phew. So much blue pills.

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>>61756437
>basically obsolete

im using fish and you can't stop me

how do you feel about that?

>>61756484
I'm currently on the toilet. I hope you like fish.

>>61756484
unimpressed. I set that as my login shell once. A co-worker tried to use my machine and got very confused. Then I uninstalled it.

>>61756484
Nothing wrong with that, have fun.

>>61756484
I like the automatic syntax highlights of fosh, but I dislike the fish language, simply because it's too different which confuses me sometimes (I do a lot of scripting in the terminal)

>>61751754
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jskq3-lpQnE
GNU/Autism

Is screen tearing common for users with XFCE? Using proprietary nvidia drivers.

>>61756606
Did you try installing compton?
Rule over the thumb flags:

compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --vsync opengl-swc

>>61756631
Will this work for video playback in mpv? I'm mainly using this distro as an htpc.

>>61756716
It's supposed to work. Only chrome(ium) use it's own compositor and screws up rendering.

>>61756716
it actually fixed my tearing problem on mpv when using just i3

>>61756738
>>61756765
This appears to be working. Will there be any performance impact using this compositor?

>>61756902
Of course, but for a htpc it should be ok.

How does one build Icecat on Gentoo?

>>61757579
1. Get Cat
2. Put In Freezer That Runs Gentoo
3. ???

>>61757703
rip in freeze gato

>>61756606
I found a different solution and used ForceCompositionPipeline instead. Since dragging windows in compton was pretty laggy.

This only works with proprietary nvidia drivers, though.

>>61757579
download tar.gz
make, make install
since I'm on debian, I'm commiting a convenient sin by adding trisquel repo and only allowing some programs to upgrade via apt pins

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>>61757703
when you're still awake, it's technically still caturday

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Remember how a low Linux Counter number was cool?

>>61758105
Back when it was hip to be square.

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>>61748315
This is great, but it made me realize that somehow urxvt seems to strip true color down to 256 colors. Is there a patch for urxvt regarding this? Pic related, left is urxvt, right st. I prefer urxvt so it would be cool in anyone has a fix for this.

>>61758045
thanks. that seems to work, but I'm getting an error for missing pulseaudio library, libpulse. I need to make it without depending on pulseaudio.

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Hi guys
None of my Tweak tools show up in applications and when i use terminal to launch they dont even work when i try to switch themes
On Xubuntu rn
Also wanted to know how can I make terminal run neofetch on start up?

Thank you

>>61758105
Think I could sell my 6dig on ebay?

I already posted this in /flt/ but I can't remember which thread is the "real" one so I'll post it here as well

About how long would it take for a Gentoo install to compile from scratch, including x/Wayland, a lightweight wm, and Firefox?

It would be building on a t420 with an i7-2640m, and an SSD if that makes a difference

>>61758145
Try w3mimgdisplay. Maybe with this wrapper http://termbin.com/jwno
It seems to display the same colors as feh when I use it in urxvt. Maybe that script you linked is just shit.

>>61758280
It ain't an ICQ #.

>>61758282
You don't really compile anything to get the base install, except the kernel if you customize it yourself. That could take maybe 30min to an hour if I remember correctly. Other than that it pretty much just takes as long as it takes you to go through the instructions.

Software on your system will start being compiled when you update it or install new software.
The most time consuming compile is the very first time you're running your new system and decide to do a full update on @world. That could take a few hours and I'd also tack on an extra 30min to an hour for each really large package you plan on installing (like firefox or libreoffice) unless you go with the binary versions (e.g. firefox-bin)

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I'm sorry guys. But /flt/ has convinced me that RMS is a childish zealot and GNU should never be directly paired with the word Linux. He's a whiny brat who wants recognition for something very miniscule. He makes up nicknames a la a 12 year old, such as SCROTUS and "Guber". He's a fucking autistic idiot.

>>61758428
He doesn't want recognition for himself he wants it for the project, which exists to fight for your freedoms anon.
The rest is just about his appearance and personality which doesn't really matter much.

>>61758371
That doesn't sound too bad, I always thought Gentoo was just a meme but after reading some more it seems like it has huge advantages over arch, which is what I'm currently using. Thanks for the info

>>61758486
It definitely has advantages, it's a great distro. It's not quite as bleeding edge as Arch but comes close and is (somewhat ironically) probably one of the most stable distros you'll ever use. Stable meaning you pretty much never have to reinstall it from scratch because of anything breaking and can always fix it.

It's not always easy though. You'll almost certainly experience some difficulties with portage down the road if you use it for a long time (like compiler errors, it happens), but the beauty of it is that it can always be fixed (usually you just have to re-compile something else first or change a setting in your make.conf or something simple) and the community is actually really new-user friendly.
When portage errors out it even tells you exactly what to post on the forum so people can help.

>>61758592
>you pretty much never have to reinstall it from scratch
That is true of literally all distros. The only difference is the gentoo doesn't even let brainlets get off the ground so they have no chance to flail about, get frustrated then reinstall.

>>61758592

> anything breaking and can always fix it.
The same as on any distribiution.

>thinking that fixing things is exclusive to gentoo
What a fucking idiot full of meme spreading.

>>61758906
I have no idea what meme you think I'm spreading
But I don't have time to deal with you ~1yr old install babies right now who think all package managers are just as good as any other

>>61758947

Name some reasons what makes Gentoo's package manager "good".

How do I interact with folders with special characters via the command line?

I'm trying to copy a file that has an apostrophe but it's refusing to tab-complete, I've also tried copying the entire file name and manually pasting it into the command. No dice.

Putting it in quotation marks isn't working either

>>61758973
install a better shell.

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>>61758986
I'm sshing into a vps

>>61758973
Tab complete should automatically escape it.
One thing that comes to mind is are you sure the apostrophe is actually a part of the file name?
There was a somewhat recent (and retarded) decision to make ls put single quotes around filenames that contain whitespace, so in that case you might need to just drop the apostrophe

If it's actually in the filename itself then I have no idea why tab completion isn't doing it. Would you mind sharing the name of the file?

>>61759005
The.World's.End.2013.BluRay.1080p.x264.AC3-LARD/

>>61759008
Well all you need to do is just escape the one apostrophe then by just putting a backslash in front of it:
>The.World\'s.End.2013.BluRay.1080p.x264.AC3-LARD
Maybe there's just a problem with your tab completion over ssh or something

IS manjaro Linux the OS to use with steam and internet connection?
>Manjaro Linux the OS of leaders

>>61759034
Ah I see, thanks

>>61759053
shitposter who replied to you first, look into changing some settings on your bashrc and inputrc files so bash works better for you. defaults are very barebones once you really get into it.

>>61759072
Yeah I've only just started to dip my toes into .bashrc, mostly just aliases and a $PATH folder

Yet to even touch inputrc

>>61759112
Your tab completion problem might have just been because you have another file with the same beginning.

e.g. if you had another file that started with
>The.Worlds.End
without the apostrophe then when you do tab completion it would pause after "World" for you to enter the next character (either an s or \' ) so it knows which one you want.

When that happens you should hit tab twice, then it would display both files so you can tell what's going on.

I have istalled linux - fedora xfce, and I cant find any friendly fonts. Fonts are also ugly in chrome too. Please help me.

>>61758947
> who think all package managers are just as good as any other
No-one anywhere thinks emerge is in the top teir of package managers.

>>61759127
>a full OS as defined by POSIX
Lol richard you are a little out of date. Linux distros these days don't restrain themselves to archaic standards like posix.
Also, you may have missed the thread spam, then the anti-thread spam spam today, but it was all prompted by your unwelcome interjections.

>>61759155
Correct, I also had The.World.at.War.1973.720p.BluRay.DD5.1.x264-DON/

I was simply unaware of how to deal with the issue

>>61759180
mscorefonts, it gives you arial which is good enough for most websites. It's what 4chan was designed for.

I'd also recommend NotoSansCJKjp to cover other languages especially east asian languages.

Also make sure you're actually getting what you think by using "fc-match <fontname>".
Some distros configure fonts like "DejaVu" to pretty much be used as a replacement for everything. So if you want 4chan to use arial for instance then you need "fc-match arial" to show that it's using arial.

>>61759244
thanks, but fonts are also blurred

Do I have to uninstall the Nvidia proprietary drivers before upgrading Fedora?

It might be an odd question to ask, but I fucked my previous Debian Testing install because of that.

>>61760810
You don't have to uninstall drivers before upgrading testing. You are mental.

>>61760834
Well, I'm just telling you what happened and what people told me which was the cause back then.

I don't need to uninstall anything before upgrading Fedora then? (23 to 24, and subsequents).

>>61758428
>http://pedrocr.pt/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux/

>I didn’t include GNOME in the GNU category because it seems to now be effectively run outside GNU but including that the total for GNU would be around 13%.

>The kernel slice includes not just the kernel but also its direct dependencies like iptables and udev. The kernel itself is 6% of the total.

>>61761812
That's correct methodology. GNOME is autonomous with respect to GNU and is effectively closer to Freedesktop than to GNU.
There's also this: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-April/msg00050.html

>>61760856
Check if your drivers work with what you want to upgrade to

I got a bad signature when trying to update firefox-nightly
tried to recv key with gpg, but then it said:
24 signatures not checked due to missing keys

"Mozilla Software Releases <[email protected]>" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: unchanged: 1


what do ?

After upgrading Fedora, the boot hangs out because it cannot connect through IPv6.

On an unrelated topic, Plasma (I have a GUI, but no taskbar, etc) can't load, so I can't disable it via the usual applet in the taskbar.

How can I disable IPv6 by editing configuration files or via command line?

Sorry if it's a basic question.

>>61762059
>the boot hangs out because it cannot connect through IPv6.
Connect to where?

>>61762088
No idea. Maybe it just checks that the connection is working.

I found this. Seems it will do the trick. Do you guys agree?

https://askubuntu.com/questions/309461/how-to-disable-ipv6-permanently

>>61762107
We don't know what even your problem is.

>>61762184
Sorry. I will try to solve it on my own and tell you guys if I run into trouble. I don't mean to bother you.

>>61755405
My sentiments exactly. Linux on Windows is one of the stupidest things I've seen in years. If they had built it to actually implement any of Linux's strong points, I might say otherwise. But as it stands, it really gives the impression that Linux is an annoying to use and crippled system. Linux gets nothing from this but bad advertising.

>>61762200
After finishing the upgrade to Fedora 26, everything is working fine without any trouble.

I knew I wouldn't be sold on Fedora (I came from Debian) until I upgraded. Now I know I've found my distro.

Sorry for bothering you with premature questions, pals.

>>61762059
>After upgrading Fedora, the boot hangs out because it cannot connect through IPv6.
That may be the error message you see, but that's not why it's hanging. Do you have a special WiFi driver? Try disabling that.

That and the taskbar not loading sounds like the update may have broken your systemd setup, but I'm not a Fedora desktop expert. May want to try their forums.

>>61762495
>>61762502
It's all fine now. Thanks for your interest.

Hello, I am looking for a good lightweight text editor for GNU/Linux with syntax highlighting. I strongly prefer Kate, but it requires too many dependencies to be compiled on Gentoo.

My desktop environment is LXDE. I would use GEdit, but the window bar is huge, and there is no way to customize it. No amount of GTK themeing will change it, it looks as if it is programmed to be that way regardless of what GTK theme you use.

Can I get some recommendations for lightweight? I don't like sublime or atom, and vim in my opinion is really only good for editing config files.

>>61762878
Specifically, I would like a text editor that respects my openbox themes. Thank you.

I'll keep it simple.
Windows kept fucking me over. Have been meaning to try Linux at some stage, but not clue what flavour. Am a total newb to it. Any suggestions? Currently using Unetbootin to make it easier. Thanks for any suggestions.

>>61762923
Ubuntu is typically considered the standard entry-point for people curious about Linux. There is a lot of hand-holding in the installation, it mostly just works.

Be warned, though. GNU/Linux is not Windows. Certain things are done differently, things behave differently, and some programs you enjoy using on Windows are not available on Linux. However, approach it with an open mind, willing to learn, and you will be rewarded with a system that is fully-customizable and does what you tell it to do, rather than it telling you what to do.

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How the heck do I upgrade the kernel on Gentoo without having to reconfigure the whole thing?

>>61763029
Yeah, Ubuntu kept popping up as an entry level one. Will definitely check it out at the least.
As for it not being Windows, that I can tell. The main programs I plan on using are Skype, Gimp, and should be able to adapt to a video editing software on it.
And lastly, I'm definitely up for learning it.
Thanks for the reply, anon. I hope you have a good day.

I chuckled http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Arch_Linux

>>61762912
>>61762878

Openbox's themes have nothing to do with your texteditor's themes.
It will use GTK/Qt themes. Openbox themes are for the window decoration and they don't affect the programs at all.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications/Documents#Text_editors

>vim in my opinion is really only good for editing config files.
Vim doesn't distinguish if a file is a "config file" or anything else. What a bunch of bullshit.

>>61763638
Cut the autism. Obviously I don't mean that vim distinguishes between config files, I mean that vim is inadequate for large projects and is mostly only useful for editing config files IN MY OPINION.
>FGLT
more like unfriendly autism thread

>>61763678

Aww, is babby angry because he needs a hugbox? Can't babby take being wrong and having retarded opinions?

Vim can open large files. It can scroll through them.

>>61763705
>autistic screeching: the post

Anybody know what toolkit is libreoffice using when you remove all the libreoffice-gtkX + libreoffice-qt packages on ubuntu/debian?

>>61763705
>MOM GO GET MY TENDIES OUT OF THE MICROWAVE SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE VIM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61763735

It uses VCL, its own thing.

>>61763725
>>61763743

So you're basically admitting that you have no idea what you're talking about and you can't deal with the fact that you get called out for being stupid. Retards.

>>61763773
Keep it up, it's hilarious how triggered you are over someone not liking vim. I bet it makes you so angry every time you see someone using a different text editor, or, holy shit, an IDE.

>>61763808

I would have called out your idiocy regardless which text editor you were being stupid about. That happens to me every time I point out someone's idiocy, no matter what topic. So much about your argument. Just admit that you're an idiot and move on.

>>61763773
thx mate

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>>61763829
>this triggers the autist

>>61763867
yeah it always amazes me how vim niggers vehemently defend their shitty editor, but still end up installing a million different plugins just to make it look and act the same as an IDE. work smarter, not harder...

>>61763840

You don't have to uninstall the GTK or Qt dependencies to see how (ugly) it looks. Run it with
>SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gen libreoffice
to test it.

Anyone used distcc to install gentoo? how is it?

>>61751754
>muh GNU respect
GNU did nothing to contribute to the Linux operating system. Linux developers had to spend hours of work porting shitty GNU code to Linux just so RMS and his faggots can claim the whole OS is theirs. All GNU faggots care about is their own ego even though they don't even help progress Linux that much. Fuck GNU.

/flt/ > /fglt/

>>61763985
You have your /flt/ thread back.
Go there. Stop being a shithead.

>>61764058
Not with faggots like you spamming the thread with copypasta

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>>61764081
It won't be big and professional like GNU....

>>61764081
I haven't even visited /flt/.
I have zero intentions of doing so.

>>61764113
nice meme

>>61764136
/flt/ came first

>>61764150
i don't give a fuck. Your vehement hatred of GNU GPL and RMS has already shown me all the evidence I need of what a complete and utter idiot you are. Why would I want to hang with a bunch of fucking retards like you?

>>61764188
RMS cares more about political bullshit than real programming. Fuck RMS

>>61764202
You have your hate thread. Spout your nonsense there. Better yet, go back to /pol or stormfront.

>>61764223
>he doesn't agree with my communist GNU bullshit. /pol/! /pol/! /pol/!

>>61764258
You're really winning friends and influencing people. Good job.

Wow guys, it sure took a lot of captcha solving but I finally BTFO those anti-stallman heretics! Thank goodness for you guys. I've setup a script that will automatically wake me up whenever one of their threads are posted, so I'll be able to shit it to death with ease! Remember to have fun, and remain friendly!

Best regards, Richard Stallman.

>want to use antergos
>continually cockblocked by the barely functioning install process

>>61764462
Install ArchLinux.

>>61764499
I would but I'm looking for a quick fix for my uni laptop. Literally the only thing I've ever both managed to install and didn't hate was linux mint but it's so unstable that code::blocks randomly closes without explanation. I just pops out of existence.

>>61764424
>unfriendly

>>61764564
LinuxMint is 95% ubuntu.

>>61764677
I might try xubuntu or something if I don't get antergos working in the next day but antergos seems the coolest to me atm

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I don't get it. Which one is the normal stage3 tarball here? Is it incorporated into the minimal installation CD? What do I wget?

GNU shills are faggot freetards who think they deserve credit over something they didn't do.

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>>61764744
see pic related

>>61765060
wew lad
thanks

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>>61763867
>pycharm
>paying a subscription to write python

I don't know whether to laugh or throw up

>>61764564
Go for debian
it's easy to install and it's generally accepted by our faggu community

When I open vi it tells me I have vim installed. But when I look online for help regarding vim nothing ever works, and some things are different. for example, I'm told to make config changes in ~./vimrc, but it never changes the program. when I type :version and look at the pathing, I get this

 
 system vimrc file: "/etc/virc"
     user vimrc file: "$HOME/.virc"
 2nd user vimrc file: "~/.vim/virc"
      user exrc file: "$HOME/.exrc"

I don't understand why mine is different. Do I not actually have vim installed?

>>61767746
vi != vim

>>61767746
>in ~./vimrc
typo?

>>61767946
what am I doing wrong?
>>61767998
meant ~/.vimrc

Looking for a systemd-less comfy distro. Something with sane defaults that I don't have to spend forever tweaking. Comes without preinstalled DE

>>61758428
According to your chart GNU's got nearly as much contribution as Linux. Why shouldn't it deserve recognition?

>>61767746
what distro?
just curious.

>>61768392
fedora

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>>61768405
on ubuntu, you can set the default editor with
sudo update-alternatives --config editor
as /usr/bin/editor is a symlink to /etc/alternatives.
But there's also the $EDITOR (if I remember right) environment variable in other distros. That' my understanding anyways.
Checking that might help.

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If I install Windows from a USB to my hard drive, while I already have Manjaro on my SSD, will it wipe out my boot tables & shit??

If I don't even know what LVM is, is it something I need?

The Ubuntu installation says that it allows making snapshots and easier partition resizing. That sounds good. What are the downsides?

>>61768557
>that filename

>>61751754
hey guys, im having problems configuring my dhcpd.conf file so that I can use my computer to assign names to MAC addresses while my router handles IP's for my Beowulf cluster. However when I go to restart my isc-dhcp-server service it tells me that it's expecting a declaration or parameter in my dhcpd.conf file on the line:
if (substring option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 = "PXEClient";). All my lines end with `;`
otherwise. help pls

>>61768583
Logical Volume Management. Basically any storage drive can have a maximum of 4 Primary partitions (Windows automatically uses like 2, because fuck) but you can have essentially unlimited Logical partitions. From what I hear you might as well just use all logical partitions, there are no downsides.

This is from what I understand from googling a couple days ago, though. I'm >>61768557 this anon and don't know what'll happen if I install WiNDoZe on a different drive than my linux installation

>>61768723
MBR drives are limited to 2T in size and can have up to 4 primary partitions. GPT can have up to 128 primary partitions.
>>61768583
Another advantage of lvm is being able to use space across more than one drive as a single logical volume.
The only lv* command I've ever used tho is to delete a lvm partition which was the default choice of a gnu/linux distro I installed when I later wanted to reformat and disto hop.

>>61768176

You don't even know what systemd is.
You don't know how to use it nor do you need to use it for more than starting services (if you even do that manually).
You only parrot technological opinions deemed edgy to feel smart.
I doubt you even use a Linux distribution.
There are other retarded things about your post too, but it's not worth pointing it out.

Fucking disconnect from the internet you utter imbecile.

>>61768405
You have to install vim-enhanced. The stock vim is built in a cut down vi mode. I don't know why anyone does this any more, but a lot of distros do.

>>61769003
vim is supposed to be vi improved.
>Need to install vim-enhanced or you get vi.
This is an outrage!

>>61768951
After running my mouth I did a little google and for using space across multiple drives the correct term is volume "group".

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>>61768997
>Being this mad
Whatever you say, Lennart.

Where can i find a script or an easy way to translate bash inputrc binkeys format to zshzle format? I've been searching but can't find one.