/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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Nigger

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first for cute

Stop me of getting an Anne Pro and convice me to going with tada68.
The idea of a common layout, pbt, gateron browns and bluetooth for that price makes me hard.

>>61741675
>Ann/Anne Pro
No programming.
Bluetooth connection can be dodgy.
Plastic case.
From people in my local mech board group: Supposedly worse keycaps than Poker Pro or 3? I have no idea.
>Tada68
1.0u modifiers on the bottom right.
1.75u right Shift.
Plastic case (but possible to upgrade to alu)

I love wireless shit so much I have a wireless trackball mouse and [spoiler]a pair of AirPods[/spoiler], and I still don't think wireless mech keyboard is there yet.

>>61741789
I understood that Anne Pro was partially programmable.

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>>61741310

Your dye-sub PBT is shit compared to my dye-sub PBT with an actual profile.

I'm currently using Chinese Topre clones, give me a good reason why I shouldn't buy a real Topre board.

It's smoother and more refined than any MX or Alps board I've tried.

>>61741908
yes it is crappy through the app

What would be the cheapest way to get a white PBT spacebar with cherry profile?

I got an NPKC gradient set and the spacebar is fugged.
I'm using a white OEM spacebar at the moment and like the look of it more than the gradient one

>>61742088
>a reason not to use real topres
perhaps you want to remain being a fake ass wannabe copycat loser
if not, cough up the $200+ and join the big boy club

*sent from my HHKB, worth every overpriced penny

>>61742063
I'm waiting it. hope no delay.

>>61742648
>worth every overpriced penny
What's the deal with topre anyway?

>>61743678
they just feel better than titties do when you press on them

>>61743905
>just 4mm of travel
You must have pressed very flat titties.

>TKL realforce
>HHKB

I'm undecided between the two.
On the one hand, I like the HHKB for its meme status and aesthetic.
On the other hand the real force seems heavier on the desk, have easier access to function keys. Plus its layout being more conventional, I guess it will make typing one someone else's computer less awkward. (the white and gray version is also muh early 2000s aesthetic tier tho)

Even though I like the JIS "layout" better, with the @ available without any modifiers, I'll get the US version since I hate the small space bar even more.

>>61743678
Placebo effect.
Similar to audiofools.

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>>61743980
>comparing real titties to real topres...
not sure that's a bad thing for your everyday /g/ lurker

>>61744135
I knew it!

>>61744415
Okey, to be fair, the fact that Topre doesn't need to bottom out cause the capacitive spring makes it a nice rubber dome keyboard.
But it's still a rubber dome. Still suffers of the degradation that rubber suffers when its stretched lots of times. And also, his obscenely high price tag probably (read it as "it does") adds to the effect of the "best keyboard in the world"
For what offers, Topre are too much costly, and they arent that tactile compared with a buckling spring or a gateron brown keyboard.
If you want the layout, I prefer the clone that KBfans builds.

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>>61741310
what keyboard is this, the one on the desk in the begining of the video while he drawing on the white board https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XldCg9sQYx0&feature=youtu.be

>>61744593
>>>/lgbt/
ask here instead

>>61744593
Its a boring WASD keyboard.

>>61744707
>>61744885
i dont remember asking for your opinion, just tell me the name of the model

>>61744537
Aren't topres rated for 50 million presses?

>>61745102
Its a boring WASD keyboard you retard

>>61745102
this guy

>almost fall for the tada68 meme
>seller doesnt accept Paypal
Fuck.
What can I do, guys?

>>61741675
sometimes when i type it does things like this
>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
no idea why, but it happens, its rare do

>>61745451
Get one from a seller who does.

>>61745491
What another seller sells the tada68 whose accepts paypal?

>>61745551
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/tada68-mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils?variant=34710238797

>>61745328
i can see that it has wasd , every keyboard does and its fine that you think its boring, just tell me the name

>>61745577
maybe you should try googling wasd keyboard

>>61745605
every keyboard has wasd, thats how they make them
whats the point of googling it

>>61745631
google it and find out

>>61744537
>as tactical as browns
So not at all?

>>61745631
You must be new here.

>>61745102
WASD only makes 4 boards dumbass
Figure it out

>>61741675
you should just Anne hero

>>61745631
>trying this hard
You can stop shitposting now

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Is this a keyboard thread?

It's hard to tell as there are so few keyboards in it.

>>61745686
oh, ok ... i see now. their name is 'wasd keyboards' thats pretty retarded , like naming your car compary '4wheel cars'

>>61745736
I'm seriously thinking on getting the Anne, tough I would like to be reasured that I can program a Control caps swap.

>>61745488
Key chatter. You should change the A switch.

>>61745781
>Filco with Varmilo keycaps
>/k/ shit
Can you get more meme than this?

>>61745781
Well, there is officially more guns than keyboards in it now.

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help clean my board bros

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>>61746694
Not anymore

>>61746712
stop being a filthy shitarse.

>>61746712
*cleans your keyboard*

>>61746712
>fingernail clippings
This has to be bait

>>61743993
FC660C is the best, especially with hasu controller.

>>61747563
That's not the 980C

>>61745827
Well... https://buysellcyprus.com/

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I know IKBC is famous for their 60% Poker boards, but how is their TKL C87? Any good?

Am I experiencing anything close to a "real mechanical keyboard' with the MagicForce Quisan brown caps? it's some chinese branded Kalih switches

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>>61746717
I'll fix that for awhile.

>>61747893
yes

the mf68 is a very good basic budget board

>>61747893
Well it's a mech board with horrible keycaps with debatable switches plus ugly plastic case but also very good price.
Good starter board I guess. Though I'd say you could have paid a bit more to get sth with a bit more bangs for your bucks.

>>61747961
Ehh actually the switches are Qutemu, are these good too? Qutemu browns

>>61748001
Outemus are inconsistent as fuck.
The god of Chinese switches is Gateron.

>>61748001
Both Kalih & Outemu switches are a bit ... arguable. Unlike Gateron which already earns their names, so few outside-of-China people buy those other 2 switches to gather enough opinions. Some love them, some hate them.

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I just spent $150 on keycaps. Somehow feels worse than when I spend $300+ on headphones.

Hopefully they're good.

Why is there always some faggot posting his faggot ass guns with the keyboards?
We get it, you're manly as fuck and you take pride in your purchases.

>>61748175
looks like shit desu

>>61745781
>is this a keyboard thread? It's hard to tell with so few boards here
>shows multiple fire arms and one keyboard
>firearms
>keyboard thread
>?????

>>61748175
man you should feel bad, want a guide how to use that keyboard with the keycaps? get fucking clear ones you manchild, pathetic neckbeards

>>61748175
>SP PBT
>Uniform SA
Sorry but you spent $150 on warped unergonomic garbage.

>>61747961
the casing on the top, where it matters is aluminium desu

>>61747926
What's the point? Besides flexing your micro penis?

>>61748242
Yes, with a huge shiny nameplate that you cannot hide or remove unless you take the vinyl route.

>>61748175
letters are way too big and in your face, symbols are as equally big and ugly
shit color gradient
just kys

>>61748247
jelly?

>>61748175
That gradient is pretty shitty though desu. Look at the so-called fade from the QUERTY row to the number row.

>>61748309
>Avoiding the question

> u jelly brah XD XD XD XD

>>61742063
what key caps?

>>61748691
That SA clone the Whitefox guy "invented" and is trying to get some chinks to make

I think it's called something dumb like TTT

Got my enjoypbts in
Top stuff

>>61748691
>>61749015

It's called /dev/tty, and like the other anon said, it's kinda like an SA clone, but in a profile that's actually usable called MT3 (custom profile made by the creator). I got it because it's actually made of PBT and it seems like something I'll actually use instead of take pictures of, like what the rest of Reddit does with their SA kits.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/37451

>>61749269
Hopefully it ends up actually being good, unlike the clusterfuck other new Chinese manufactured profiles have turned into

I want spherical PBT keycaps that aren't garbage

thoughts on the logitech g413? will be my first
i was buying a mouse pad couple of days ago and tried one in the store, seemed pretty nice I like the heavy metalic tone of it and it felt nice typing with MK

What is the best mechanical keyboard I can get for gaming? I was gonna get a corsair one, but people from pcbg said that was bad so I came here.

>>61749813
>Romer-G

You obviously haven't tried many different boards then. Romer-G switches are horrible and come with a lot of issues, including not being able to switch out the crappy ABS keycaps, and keychatter from the dual leaf contacts.

Anything is better than Logitech shit. If you really like that type of switch, you should get something with Gateron Browns. Get Cherry Browns if you can't find a good Gateron Brown board.

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>>61750063
If you want a gayming keyboard then get a Cooler Master with PBT keycaps instead. You can also get a Ducky One since that also has double shot or dye-sub PBT. But my personal favorite so far is the Leopold 980m. Even though it has laser printed PBT keycaps I prefer the layout.

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>>61748175
what do you need a dedicated amazon key for

>>61750155
That's retarded symbol speak for insert, I guess it's supposed to convey inserting the letter a into a word but since keycap designers are rarely graphic designers it falls flat.

>>61741310
are wasd keyboards worth it?

>>61750645
get the barebones ones, then find a set of PBT keycaps

>>61750662
is there a better alternative to just the keyboard + switches?

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are unicomp keyboards worth or should I get an IBM model M?

>Budget
200
>Location
USA
>Switch
Blues or clears
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form factor
Preferably 60%, but Tenkeyless is fine too
>Backlight
Nice, but not necessary. I'd like the ability to add lights if I wanted though.
>Current keyboard
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate (its shit)

>>61750910
If you want a modern Model M with custom layout/parts/chassis straight outta the factory then Unicomp.

Otherwise stick with the original Model M if you really care about build quality and don't need win/menu keys.

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>>61750910
a properly restored or good condition IBM will always be better

>>61750910
they are identical , unicomp makes em like ibm would , just new

>>61751457
no, no they don't

>>61751456
Where can I buy good condition Model M for $200?

>>61751698
ebay

>>61751456
do you use an active adapter? i get weird issues with my model m, probably because my ps/2 port isn't supplying it with enough energy. any dutchfags that might know where i can get a working active adapter?

>>61751933
i use this thing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SANOXY-PS2-Keyboard-To-USB-Adapter-New-/182458746680

so what, you guys just wank each other off over your epic keyboards all day? haha

Is the Cooler Master CM Storm Quick Fire or Logitech G314 Carbon better for a gaming build?

Redpill me on wristrests

>>61752275
Nah, we just jerk ourselves off while everyone else watches

are varmilo a meme?

>>61752580
No

>>61752514
>gaming build?
>>/v/

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>>61752275
>his keyboard isn't epic

>>61752580
probably

>$50-150
>USA
>MX Blues
>ANSI
>100% (bonus points for media keys that aren't Fn)
>LEDs are nice, but not necessary
>Maybe looking to replace my Sidewinder X4 but I love the layout

>>61752601
Ducky One

>>61752597
Just answer the question faggot

>>61752526
forget that shit
how long until I can have a keyboard on my arm?

>>61752670
>what is datahand

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Is there any custom keycap set with both top and front printed? I want this because of reasons.

>>61752791
There are like the commodore 64

>>61752815
Ok, what I meant is "is there any company printing keycaps both on the top and on the front?". I ask because looking around I always find that the option to print on the top or on the front are mutually exclusive.

>>61752640

Thanks!

>>61752851
I think GMK can

lazy boy here, what's a nice 10keyless with gateron browns

total novice here. Can any keycap fit on any keyboard, or do they vary in styles across different keyboards?

>>61753132
So we're talking six-months waits in group buys plus massive costs, right?

>>61753231
Some keycaps may come in different dimensions, most notably the spacebar, but most keys have standard dimensions; what you want to account for the most is the switch on which the keycap will be mounted.

>>61753231
To clarify what the other anon said, if it's cherry or a cherry clone then 90% of keycaps will fit (as long as the sizes are correct). If you have alps/matias or topre, you'll need completely different ones.

>>61753591
and how do you know which ones you have? If I take the keycap off I can see a small brand name on the switch. Is that how you tell?

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>>61752851
like these?

>>61753604
Just look at the stem nigga

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So I have no doubt you niggers are aware of the floss mod for model m's, is there a mod to make them louder? Maybe if I put another, thinner spring inside the spring thats already in there?

>>61753702
Way less gay than that. I was thinking about buying the CM Masterkeys Pro M, and giving it a half decent set of caps, possibly PBT (I don't care about retroillumination: I'd keep it off anyway), however I'd have to print the legends on both the front and the top of the keycaps.

tactile clicky really is the master race

>>61753837
it does the job. print on top and front

>>61753173
james donkey has a gateron brown 10keyless going for pretty cheap on amazon right now
no idea if its any good, but ive seen it recommended before in these threads

>>61753882
>its another dumb alps user is a dumb alps user and thinks his shit scratchy keys that have variable actuation force depending on the angle you press the key is a god tier key episode

>>61745781
what model is this keyboard?

>>61754006
Over priced chink shit with chink keycaps. The only reason why you'd get one is for the large modding community

>>61753604
If you don't know, and have a modern keyboard, it's a cherry stem

Or google "cherry stem", "alps stem", "topre stem"

>>61753938
>shit scratchy keys
I think you're confusing alps with cherry.

>>61754006
Filco Majestouch.

>>61754145
U sure. The badge on the front of the case says Fag-o

I just won Cooler Master Masterkey pro M RGB with brown switches and still think it's not worth that money. Yes, it's extremly orgasmic to type and comfy but I wouldn't give that much money just to have shiny toy.

>>61754233
>brown
Yeah I'd throw it away too.

>>61754233
I'm >>61753837
Can you tell me how's that keyboard (I would buy the regular white led version)? I'm concerned about build quality and the switches.

>>61754299
I'd like more informations about this too.

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>>61754321
Just look at the official mkg switch guide

>>61754321
Well build quality is great, switches are also great and I like brown switches because they are not autistic as blue and not fucked up like red. They are very tactile and layout is amazing. Keyboard is very comfy as I sad, the one that amazed me more was only das keyboard. I suggest you to buy white led version because RGB is soo gay and autistic i just leave white with low dim setting. I won this keyboard on small startup competition but I would never give this much money for toy.

>>61754370
Are the ones on the bottom Gaterons?

>>61754370
I laughed hard. No seriously: that keyboard is available only in MX Red and Brown and I don't want linear.

>>61754382
Could you try twisting it lightly and see if it flexes?

>>61754440
Yee

>>61754453
Thanks, it was hard to read the text

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Is this a joke?

My gateron brown Saber68 is coming on Tuesday. I'm looking forward to this so much.
Anyone else have one? What would be a good keycap set for it?

>>61754728
The Tada68 / Saber68 already has pretty good keycaps

>>61754776
Nice. From all the videos and pictures I've seen they do look quite solid, but all those DSA/SA sets are so tempting.

>>61747926
I'd want to get rid of some of the shittier specimens.

>>61754679
Artisan keycaps are the most "audifool" thing in this hobby after the topre.

>>61754679
>going on massdrop
Clearly your life is a joke

So what's your opinion of gateron blues?
Are these godly as the linear gateron variants?

>>61755107
I have them myself and they're pretty good. My friends on Discord are always complaining about how loud they are, though.

>>61755107
No. Their switches are smooth but their mfg tolerances are lower than Cherry's and this becomes a problem with the two-part stems in blues/greens. Result is they're inconsistent and even louder/higher pitched.

>>61755145
So browns it's the way to go then.
Thanks.

>>61755059
I've never bought anything from there but the $199 USD HD 6XX seems amazing.

Ded thread
Ded memes
With all these poorfags looking for chink shit this general should be merged with /csg/

>buy THREE meme cherry mx switch keyboards
>one of the number buttons ALWAYS ends up ghosting, can't spam without it eventually not responding
>buy meme razer mech keyboard with green switches
>flawless anti-ghosting, no missed inputs, perfect for any game or typing

remind me why you people insist on shilling cherrymx?

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I'm wanting a backlit keyboard for ~$100 (preferably less), but one that doesn't have keycaps with a "gamer" font like pic related. Any recommendations?

>>61756364
Green is a rebranded Gateron blue if I can recall. Cherry MX is a bad design in general, but Cherry's own manufactures are garbage compared to some of the chink knockoffs

>>61756364
*cough* razer still uses cherry mx on some of their keyboards *cough* *cough*

>>61756392
Nevermind, they used to use Kailh and have since switched to Greetech, but my point still stands. Unless you go rock-bottom, Cherry switches are bound to be scratchier with a shoddier build quality.

>>61742088
>>61742648
>>61743678
>>61744204
>>61744537
>>61745123
>>61753591
>>61754070

Topre is pure shit

>>61756391
Ducky Shine if you're flexible on price, Tada68 if you're not.

>>61757490
which shine?

The dutch autist know as Thomas revealed the secret to the best tactile switches ever made.
Thanks, these aristotle switches will dissapear now.

>>61757530
Best for MX maybe. Still shit compared to Alps, buckles, beamspring etc.

>>61757549
I hope that matias gets a blue alps clone right.

>>61757578
Fucking complicated alps HNNNGGGGG

what is the cutest and comfiest keyboard setup i can get for watching amine? c:

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I love this keyboard to death but even with a carefully set up keychatter fix in software it still sometimes messes up. Also is destroys my CPU when I'm typing very fast or just any fast inputs like an RPG with tons of binds. I guess I'll probably have to replace all of the switches or buy a new one right?
Pic related is just tonight.
Noppoo choc mini with "noppoo blues" and pom caps.

>>61757614
we need more information other than "cute" and "comfy" anon

Where should I get small quantities of unprinted PBT caps in various colors? I just want three or four 1.5u caps in blue and gray, unprinted and blank.

>>61757355
your mom is a faggot

How is the corsair k70?

EnjoyPBT could dye?

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>>61754370
>no alps switches on that guide

>>61759026
>no one cares about these anyway lol

Fags aren't interested because they can't get meme caps for them.

>>61759220
oh yeah i forgot about that. i was wondering if it was cause they're not making alps with lgbt LEDs

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>>61758114
>He bought a $300 rubberdome
>has such strong post purchase rationalization that he has to defend said rubber domes on a anime imageboard

>>61758426
Anyone?

>>61759726
ive got a cherry mx red, second production run (with the tramp stamp logo). its pretty good and if you like cherry mx reds you will like the K70, the quality is good, and is honestly one of the only worthwhile products that corsair makes

>>61759764
Ok thanks i think ill get it then

just give it to me straight, gateron blues or cherry blues?

>>61760462
Neither
Alps complicated blues

>>61760462
Jailhouse blues.

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nice

>>61760575
>>61760586
thanks for the help

>>61741310
I have fallen for the next meme from /g/. Buyed 30$ mechanical keyboard with outemu blue swotches in iso layout and despite ugly font on keycaps everything is feeling great. Thanks /g/ for my autism improvment.

>>61760462
Gaterons are great

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>EnjoyPBT japanese massdrop
>$64.99
Oh good price.
But
>Estimated ship date is Oct 2, 2017 PT.

>>61761383
>assdrop
Just get it from kbdfans if you're impatient. I certainly am.

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Did I fuck up?

>>61761383
What, you expect Massdrop to ship things in a reasonable timeframe?

>>61750910
>>61751457
>>61751496
Yeah, the Unicomp build quality is nowhere near as good. Just watch some reviews on Youtube and see the shit state of the casings on factory new keyboards.

>>61761420
I know but massdrop. I'm concerned about delayed.

>>61761614
Then buy from China.

>>61760462
If you have a choice, cherry. If you don't, both are good - it's not something to base your entire keyboard choice off.

>>61760462
Gateron's are smoother, but higher pitched. Some people report inconsistency issues with them, but I haven't really noticed anything on my sets.

What's the difference between these?
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys
and
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/japanese-dye-subbed-keycap-set

>>61761905
Are you color blind?

What are some good split mechanical keyboards?

>>61759456
>buying things without ever testing them first
>buying tech shit that isn't "made in japan"
you're just a fat finger loser unaware of topre superiority

>>61761663
To be fair, that Massdrop price is definitely >50% off (I checked).
So, it's up to you if a saving of $60 is worth min 2 months of waiting.

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>>61761905
Different styles and colors?

>>61762310
Ergodox.
Mistel Barocco.
Mitosis.
Plus a bunch of DIY kits, like the Let's Split.

>>61757632
>Also is destroys my CPU when I'm typing very fast
The hell?
Is your PC a 90's toaster or something?

>>61757982
Taobao/Aliexpress.
Seriously, I just

>>61762638
Ahem, seriously I just ordered 1 Capslock and 1 Enter key from Aliexpress. Hoping oming this Wednesday. Cost me like 6 bucks.

>>61762119
>>61762582
So the colors made the other one more expensive? How about the quality of the keycaps

>>61762709
KBDfans keycaps are pretty OK.
No shit, of course the colors makes it more expensive. Plus, did you not see the sushi?

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>>61756391
The Fnatic Gear Rush Gaming Keyboard is alright, it's back-lit and it comes in variants with cherry mx brown, blue and red.

>>61757490
>Ducky Shine if you're flexible on price, Tada68 if you're not.

What kind of retarded recommendations are these, the duck duck shine is twice his ideal price and the tada68 is a retarded 65% manlet keyboard.

If $100 is the limit then Fnatic Gear Rush or the HyperX Alloy on sale, if you can find it on a sale, are realistic choices.

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>>61759220
u wot m8?

>>61764795
That's the only alps groupbuy SP have ever done

Your other options are lolgranite or tai-hao garbage

>>61763700
anything that's white-backlit or rgb?

Are cherry brown switches really that bad?

>>61765213
It depends on what you want from them.

If you want a switch that's like a red that slightly changes partway down, they're great
If you want a switch that's tactile, get clicky or clear.

>>61755059
massdrop features some interesting products and the forums can provide decent information but I would absolutely never buy anything through them. Even Massdrop "exclusives" can be bought immediately for equivalent cost elsewhere with expedited delivery options and full direct warranties. A couple hundred people is not a world dominating group buy for a product.

>>61765248
I need a keyboard and have to choose between three models I've isolated. Deciding on the switch would restrict the decision to two models. Options are blue, brown, and black.

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>>61764865
All the good full-sized keyboards with cherry mx switches that I'm aware of in the $100 price-range are red-backlit and you won't find any RGB keyboards in that price-range either.

There's some RGB keyboards in the $40-50 price-range with cherry MX clones on Aliexpress. The quality on these may not be the best, some are happy with these and some write in the feedback that their keyboard died within months.

I've actually ordered a Elephone $40 RGB keyboard with cherry mx blue clones from China - which was kind of an impulse buy - and it'll be fun to see exactly how a keyboard compares to a $200 keyboard.

>>61765213
You'll have to judge if Cherry MX Brown switches are totally awesome or bad yourself.

My personal first choice is Cherry MX Blue because I do like the click click click loud sound it makes. I also have a Cherry MX Brown keyboard which I use unless I'm alone in my apartment. It's not that different from Blue's, the actuation point on the switches is slightly higher and it doesn't make any sound. I have o-rings on mine so the board with browns is very quiet.

What you should do is to go to computer stores and electronics stores until you find one which has a keyboard with brown switches on display, preferably connected to a computer - but you'll get a feel for it just by typing a bit on it even if it's not. There really isn't any other way you can find out if you like brown switches or not.

What is /mkg/ approved way to clean keyboards? Youtube links are welcome.

>>61761416
I got one of these last week and I'm loving it so far, but it's my first mech keyboard so I wouldn't really know.

>>61765556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw_tpElJbxY

I'm a shill and need another
>Budget
<$80ish
>Location
Burger
>Preferred switch type
Interested in blues or greens from either cherry or gateron, I like my gateron blacks but want to try a clicky switch
>Layout
Ansi
>Form factor
Tkl
>Backlight
No preference
>Previous/current keyboards
Magicforce with gateron blacks

>>61765446
Lol just get a model M or a Unicomp model M

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>>61765708
Tomoko off amazon

>>61741310
i might get this:
https://www.amazon.com/James-Donkey-Red-Switch-Programmable/dp/B01MSUUNVL/ref=lp_10215819011_1_10?srs=10215819011&ie=UTF8&qid=1502044344&sr=8-10

could i get something better and cheaper?

>>61765746
>shilling for unicomp

Alright /mkg/ help me out here
>Budget
200
>Location
US
>Preferred switch type
Blue/Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100% or TKL, either is fine
>Backlight
Either is also fine
>Previous/current keyboards
das keyboard 4 professional, I really like the aluminum top panel and non-"gamer" keycap fonts on my current keyboard so a keyboard with those two would be a plus

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>>61765891
You're right
modelfkeyboards.com
Literaly the perfect keyboard ever made

>>61765764
Are outemus any good or is it gonna feel like a $30 keyboard and have issues after a while

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>>61765952
Leopold fc980m

>>61765985
I've been using a board with outemu blues for about a year now and they still feel great.

>>61765985
They're okay. If you've never typed on blues before you can't tell the difference between them and cherry mx. But after a while you can feel the weight and click difference between the two. The keyboard has a metal top plate so it barely flexes.

>>61765983
>shilling for that overpriced piece of obsolescence

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>>61766249
Not him, but this 1000000%%%!!!!
Everyone knows rubber domes are the future of keyboards

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>Budget
200 euros
>Location (continent at least)
Netherlands
>Preferred switch type
red
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
Would be nice, RGB doesn't matter
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky One DKON1508F (pic related), I want something similar to this one, except tenkeyless and with LEDS. And I want the printing to be white on black keycaps.

>>61766485
I'd get the One with PBT keycaps
https://www.alternate.nl/Ducky/One-DKON1687-Gaming-toetsenbord/html/product/1345708?lk=22679

>>61766700
Is PBT better or worse than ABS?

>>61766824
POM>PBT>Dog shit>ABS

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What does /mkg/ think about MasterKeys?

>Budget
150-200
>Location
US
>Preferred switch type
Blue
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
RGB my shit up
>Previous/current keyboards
razer blackwidow - actually has mx blues and I love them. (not like the newer ones that only use (((razer))) switches.)

Shine 6? Opinions?

>>61766911
Thanks, i'll buy it then

>>61766976
Pro L RGB

>>61766928
>semi-transparent coated and laser ablated ABS
>backlighting
The Pro M has an interesting layout though.

>>61765983
>designed by an autist that literally cant left the past over, so it had to overbuild a ancient piece of bank equipment
The guy could made some money reducing costs in some bits, but thats autism in purest form.

>>61767893
On the other hand Unicomp capitalized on tools older than most people on this site, and cut corners like chinks. There's literally no middle ground.

>>61754370
this chart is hilariously out of date

>>61767958
Not really its missing a few meme switches, but who cares about those anyway

>>61767893
It is reducing costs tho. He's selling the keyboard so that he barely makes a profit, which is why the chinks want to get rid of it. A better complaint would be on the layout of the keyboard

>>61767980
cherry retooled their switches, theyre now as smooth as gats without the wobble. Kailh switches are no longer shit.

>>61768012
>>61767925
We need a discrete buckling spring switch.
Can we design it? I glady would sell or give away to Gateron if thar means better keyboards.

>>61768022
Nah. Its smoother, but they still insist on having the switch get scratchier the further down you go so you can tell how far down its been pressed. Its retarded and makes the switch feel like shit, but if you put thicc o-rings then it feels as smooth as gaterons

>>61768128
>Can we design it?
I don't think it's a difficult task. Problem is if there's some sort of patent pending.

>>61761420
I've gotten plenty of things from massdrop and they always ship within 2-4 days, although all my shit already based on the US instead if chinkvile , but my experience has been pretty good so far, although i never got tracking, ever

>>61768216
Buckling springs patents expired a long time ago

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>>61768216
The patents expired years ago. The problem with capacitive buckling springs however is the cost since almost everything has to made from metal. You could use a plastic case, but that doesn't really cut down costs by a lot, maybe 50 bucks

>>61768357
Every switch has metal contacts, every switch has a spring. What's the difference with capacitive?

>>61768507
quantity

the model f pcb is like almost a kilogram of copper

>>61768545
Is being capacitive really a requirement? Mechanically it's the buckling spring the differentiating factor.

All these people upset over an enthusiast keyboard designed specifically to be a brick shit house based off an old design.
It's like you're all new to this autistic hobby or something.

>>61768690
There is already buckling spring over membrane, and it sucks ass. Also no way in hell can the chinks compete with Unicomp if they clone that

>>61768690
No, that's why the model M came along and used a plastic case, thinner metal parts, and membrane sheets instead of being capacitive.

>>61768913
It can't to be over membrane, if it must be a self contained switch you dumbass. Let me fire up SolidWorks and give me some time.

>>61760664
nova-g900
kek. can't do better than this.
I have the same thing. diff caps tho.

>>61768981
Then how come the model M exists?

>>61768981
Didn't someone already try to make a self contained BS switch?
www.kickstarter com/projects/1739705432/modernized-buckling-spring-keyboard-switch

Is Topre still considered to be The King of Switches amongst mechanical keyboard aficionados?

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>>61769121
It uses a buckling spring, but the actuation principle is slightly different, lacking the bottom lever.

>>61769149
For now.
Just wait until memesprings make a return and we'll see a new king

>>61769177
But if you use the bottom lever you will have a huge switch.
Seems pointless to have it be self contained if the switch is huge.
Unless I'm just retarded. We'll see what >>61768981 comes up with.

Looking for a mech keyboard with the following specs:

*solid aluminum case (not a thin metal shell like the magicforce meme)
*somewhere between a 60% and TKL (want arrow keys and preferably full-size standard keys for keycap compatability
*minimalist design (no gaymer bullshit)
*tactile switches (blues or similar)

>>61769262
I'm surprised that the chinks haven't made a decent clone of buckling springs yet

>>61769274
>We'll see what >>61768981 (You) comes up with.
I'm trying to find Cherry's technical drawings to see what kind of dimensions I can get away with in terms of plastic thickness and overall dimensions.

>>61769358
They did though.

>>61769433
Model F?

>expensive
>in a retarded as fuck layout

>>61769447
>even the "compact" version still has a huge fuckoff bezel

>>61769469
I'm still a little mad that the autist decided on an exact clone of some shitty old IBM design instead of taking the switches and making an improved capacitive BS keyboard

>>61768981
Yes it can dumb fuck. Instead of a capacitve pad its a membrane pad. Same exact mechanism, but the actuation is different. You can even replace the switch too just like on a model F, but Unicomp is too lazy to do that

>>61769447
Its actually very cheap for the build quality you're getting

>>61769509
Unicomp only has the molds for the fullsize cases, keycaps and flippers. They are incapable of any sort of R&D or cutting new molds so you will never see discreet modules from them. Your only hope for improved/affordable buckling springs is the chinks.

>>61769469
>a huge fuckoff bezel
Its not that big.
Yeah, it could be smaller, but does a 12mm bezel really make that big of a difference?

>>61769586
It's shit.

>>61769570
>They are incapable of any sort of R&D or cutting new molds
can't they subcontract this out to the chinks?

>>61769677
I'm sure they could.
But they are lazy fucks and wont even do that.

>>61769677
They're extremely risk-averse and their keyboards are a side-project at best.

>>61769398
cherryamericas com/product/mx-series-2/
That help at all?

>>61769677
If you think Unicomp gives a shit you're wrong. They don't even know how to fix their broken tooling. The worst part is that they actually have part of the tooling to make an SSK, but they're too stupid to build the rest

>>61760664
Why a wood rest?

>>61769882
i like the look of it

>>61747926
>>61748309
>seriously shows off guns like the Remington R51, Walther PPX, some Walther P99 knockoff, and an Exeter Sig
No, all you're doing is telegraphing to everyone here who knows about guns that you don't really know much about guns and will spend your money on garbage, then display it while covering up rare and high quality guns like that fucking HK P7 with your keyboard.

>>61770234
You can say the same thing about his keyboard purchases.

>>61769838
No, but I've given up anyway.

My idea was just reworking the lever shape and make it work by giving it a metal contact that would close the circuit inside the switch (in this way you don't have a membrane, and you don't need a shitload of metal for all the capacitors), and encapsulate the whole system in a convenient shell, which is easier said than done, especially if you don't have any measurement (lenght and thickness of ALL the parts, especially the spring and the lever in the BS switch) of any of the switches.

Moreover at the end of the day what matters the most is the force-travel profile, and what sets buckling springs apart from other switches is the fact that between peak force and actuation there is no further travel, and after peak the force has a vertical drop. Point is that you might just engineer a new system that behaves this way instead of re-engineering an older system.

>>61770346
That sounds similar to the alps clone of buckling springs

>>61770346
>>61770432
Never mind I was thinking of these
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_plate_spring
But Alps did make clones of buckling springs which were basically a hammer over membrane

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>>61770432
I gave a look at the patents. Yes, the idea is roughly the same, but my idea of the lever/hammer is different than pic related.

So what's the best fullsize ducky to buy? PBT keycaps are a must, rest is whatever, I just want a quick rundown on what to avoid

It's funny because I'm still drawing sketches of a possible solution for this, but I still have to figure out what fucking mkb to buy goddamit!

i still dont understand the difference beetween the colored switches . Red brown blue etc

>>61769346
TADA68 with an alu case.
Vortex Race 3.
KBD75 (sandwich alu case I believe)

>>61770793
Ducky is mostly fine. Probably get a Shine 5 instead of Shine 6 if you can. The improvement isn't that much.

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>>61770836
Pic related, plus differing spring weights.

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I'm not into this kind of solid case, but damn if there is not an appeal to it.
Feel almost like brutalism.

>>61770909
Careful, posting a big bezel triggers people around here.
It does look cool though.

Was gonna upgrade my Cherry MX Board 3 (reds) for a Poker 3 RGB (blues). Is there any better 60% keyboard in the price range of the Poker 3 (£130) with a UK layout or am I pretty stumped for choice?

>>61770933
>cut down hard on usable keys to save desk space
>put it in a case with a gargantuan fucking bezel instead of having more keys

>>61770970
>cut down hard on usable keys to save desk space
It's like one column wider, man. Barely a TKL.

>>61770970
Here is an example of one of those people now!

>>61770909
Thoses keycaps are lit

>>61771001
It's fucking useless and counterproductive. Hypocritical even. I mean look at this thing: >>61770909
It's practically still a floating key design with the caps above the top of the bezel and the it doesn't even serve the purpose of protecting the keys.

>>61771045
The person who owns it probably thinks it looks good.
Half of this fucking hobby is about aesthetics and personal preference.
Stop being so assblasted about that.

>>61769935
Does it feel okay? I just use a glorious PC gaming race rest.

>>61770895
so im buying a keyboard that are gatreon brown . Its decent for everything right?

>>61771155
yes, it's pretty good
bought it on Ali, pretty cheap

>>61771210
Yes. It's smoother and the Gat browns have a slightly bigger bump on the ramp than Cherries do so it's slightly more tactile.

>>61771210
Yee

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>>61771296
>>61771339
this is what im getting

https://www.amazon.com/James-Donkey-Red-Switch-Programmable/dp/B01N49NWBP/ref=lp_10215819011_1_10?srs=10215819011&ie=UTF8&qid=1502044344&sr=8-10&th=1

(im a sucker for led affects. )

>>61771450
>el dank-ey maymay

>>61771001
What that fuck kind of manlet are you?

>>61771881
>Being proud of or pissy at shit you were born with and never spent( a minute of effort on
Classic insecure ding-dongs..

>>61772310
No need to project your insecurities you gay little midget. Thank god I'm not short. I can't image what its like living your life thinking about the size of other people's dicks.

>>61772397
>>61772397
>>61772397

Take your shitposting here plz!

>>61745781
whats your opinion of the .357sig? about to build my own glock 31 with RMR mill and preferably a trigicon sight. Also should i go with dual witness?