/retro/ - junk sale finds edition

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that nasty ass barrel battery hasnt even exploded

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>>61735624
and it was THIS kind of junk shop
there was literally too much stuff for me to dig through, i found zip drives, boxes upon boxes of floppies, brand new IBM DOS disks, external SCSI drives, a complete Apple 2, a bunch of Brother monochrome orange monitors, loads of old towers, a bunch of older computers that looked like 486 era stuff from Xerox? Lots of HP desktops, and oh my god the amount of Hi-Fi equipent, i found a panasonic combo 8 track, tape, record and receiver unit there. He had a milk crate of Pentium and celeron brick processors, another just full of floppy drives, and a third of ram sticks.

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>>61735545
cool stuff OP
bump

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Holy fuck /g/ it works
I really wish I still had my model M right now
Ram check passes, gives me a keyboard error but oh my god it works

>>61735691
How do you find places like this.

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oh fuck yeah, I love retro threads.
Personally a fan of 70/80's ibm stuff.
Dumping
1/8

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>>61736342
It was slightly off an older highway with a sign by the road that said "JUNK SHOP OVER 1500 OLD AND USED ITEMS"
How could I pass it up? Last year I bought my dad a complete box of Jarts I found in the place (banned lawn dart game that kept killing children). You just gotta drive around those backwoods areas and see what's there.
Think of American Pickers.

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>>61736510
15000*
This place is a barn full of shit, easily the size of a high school gym or something packed floor to ceiling.

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>>61735691
this is literally my wet dream
you can't find this shit where I live, it's all recycled

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>>61735545
I think I have one of those that's been up in the attic for over **15 years** now...

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>>61736545
You anywhere near northwest Indiana
This is on highway 12 between the town of Pines and Michigan city
Terrible pic but back there are some old 486 boxes under a filing cabinet full of floppy disks

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All for now
Will post more if the thread starts dying

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>>61736577
>No programming socks

>>61736605
I thought that was a thing only fags did ?

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Oh and heres the dimension
Again, nothing of value lost. Half tbr parts were gone, PSU 'sploded in the past and there were corroded traces everywhere

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Heres what the p3 inside the Dell looked like
The whole machine was like this

Im gonna have to go back for 720k floppy disks and the ones I saw with IBM PC DOS installed. And definitely grab a ps/2 keyboard to use
Luckily ita just 14 pin VGA so my LCD monitor works, but if I can get one for cheap, the place has a lot of Brother orange monochrome monitors.

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>>61738069
And nice and cleaned up

Theres also an ATI rage 128 card in it, very bog standard one, some 56k modem card, and a floppy disk controller card. The mobo has an AGP, 5 pci and 1 ISA slot. Not sure on the chipset but its a 700mhz P3 that was in there
Loads of corroded traces from the leaky PSU. Its a damn shame too, id love to have a Pentium 3 machine with that rage 128

>>61736565
Where specifically? Michigan City is only like 1.5hrs from me. Be cool to check out.

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this thread sucks lol

>>61738424
Fuck off, sparky.

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>>61738404
heres the address
its open from 10am to 4pm now i think
old dude and his wife hang out outside, bring him stuff and he prices it, hes good on prices
paid 10 bucks for the PS/2, 10 bucks for the Dell Dimension and 5 bucks for the apple keyboard
loads of stuff there, i could fill my truck with stuff, but im a brokeboi right now

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>>61738535
>bar and grill

Fuck that sounds good right about now.

>>61735545
Enjoy it and for the love of god leave it "original". Don't try to "mod" such classic pc. I wish I still had mine. Mine was 80286/1MBram/20MB hdd/3.5 Floppy. Stock OS was Windows 3.0/Dos 5.0. Can be upgraded to windows 3.1 no problem. Ah the memories.

>>61738535
Thanks. I'll check it out.

>>61738676
oh hell no, i wouldnt even if it was entirely broken inside, thats lame as shit
knowing that it works, i want to max it out with original era hardware
theres a 2mb original IBM ram expansion card i want to look for, it already has the 8087 math coprocessor, theres another open slot for a chip next to the 8086 processor but im not sure what its for, id like to get an 8 bit ISA sound card for it and maybe, maaaaaybe an ISA floppy disk controller with one of those dongles for a compact flash card, because an aging hard drive and 720k FDD is probably not a good thing to stick anything important on

i got the dell dimension for the purpose of using it as a sleeper case, guts were dead/missing (besides the cards and Pentium 3, mobo was dead, no HDD/ram/PSU dead)

>>61738629
it is actually really good, its a casual bar type atmosphere but they also have regular restaurant seating
think of an applebees but less upbeat and more relaxed
they make some great burgers

i live like 15 minutes away in Porter, highway 12 is a very beautiful drive in the summer, and the beach is nearby too

>>61738801
also, i have no idea what to do about this battery
im having trouble finding a replacement online, and its soldered to the ISA expansion bracket

i mean, it works, it hasnt blown up, i dont get any errors related to time and date, seems to be fine
i dont know if its been replaced or what, a lot of people with the model 30 and model 25 are saying the same thing, theyre amazed it hasnt blown up and equally amazed it still works

god tier cmos battery?

>>61738889
Just lucky? I mean de-soldering it shouldn't be *too* hard provided the thing is set off from the board at any distance.

>>61738889
It's a bog standard lithium/carbon monofluoride 2/3A cell. Those aren't known to leak and have shelf lives rated in decades.
It's 3V so if you had to replace it a cheap CR cell would also work.

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>>61735691
>Lots of HP desktops
are we talking like typical pavilion systems or oldschool red-logo vectras
if it's the latter you should pick up as much as you can afford and/or carry

>>61739223
One i was able to pick out by name is a vectra ES series system. I think its actually visible here >>61736565
Again, shit picture, hard to take a picture with my shitty phone and shaky hands.

There was also some slightly newer stuff including what looked like 486 era hardware (turbo buttons) and some pentium era machines as well. Theres a couple gutted cases i found there with the red HP logo, including two that were clearly empty but looked exactly like that tower in your picture. They were under the dell dimension i grabbed which is face down on top of a tape deck here >>61735691

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>>61739815
Why isn't that can next to this?

>>61739815
i wonder what it tastes like

Alright /g/ im gonna stop posting in my own thread where im basically talking to myself and 2-3 other people who give a shit

Tomorrow im gonna go back to the junk shop, pick up any working ps/2 keyboard and a couple of the floppy disks i saw there for IBM PC-DOS, theyre 720k disks so they should work in my new machine, ill see if i can get one of the brother monochromes i saw there for cheap, ill bring a cable for testing and all that.
And ill get you lot some good pictures of some of whats there. I wouldve grabbed that kind of stuff originally but i only got the things i did to attempt to restore them, i had no idea the PS/2 would actually work straight away.

Goodnight

>>61740843
I'd talk to you but I have nothing to say.

>>61740872
I didnt mean to say nobody cared or anything, just a slower retro thread than yesterdays
320 replies in 8 hours, think everyone just burned out

Next retro thread ill bring more details about everything

>>61740902
mediamagic laptop guy here, I'll post more picture of that and my collection this weekend as well. Post a short webm of my IBM Selectric here >>61730838

>>61736503
That machine at the back looks like its eating spaghetti.

>>61739866
That can is stylish af

>>61736625
You're telling me that's not a qt trap?

>>61736490
>>61736503
>>61736522
>tfw you will never give janice an encouraging pat on the bum after she successfully replaces the tape reels

>>61741247
jej it really does

>>61738424
omfg a text document of screenfetch

>>61738629
hang the fuck on

werent you a few threads ago the guy whose putting this into a gaming rig?

>>61744303
Just spotted this, ahahah what a faggot
Please uninstall Win2k now, it's not for kids like you

>>61735545
>10 american quid.
Why is 2nd hand shit so expensive in America?
>be gutted for a cool sleeper build.
Even better get an old xbox dev kit!

>>61735691
We used to have places like that still 5 years ago, now it's all gone. Luckily I pretty much stocked up myself.

>>61738801
>maaaaaybe an ISA floppy disk controller with one of those dongles for a compact flash card, because an aging hard drive and 720k FDD is probably not a good thing to stick anything important on
There's no reason to replace the floppy drive, unless you just want to upgrade it to 1.44MB. Just get an additional HDD controller like the LoTech one, cheaper model is CF card only.

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>>61735545
I got these two old acer laptops a while ago, one is from 2006 the other from 2003

>>61740843
Can't wait to see! Thanks anon.

>>61738424
omfg it's notepad someone call the sides police mine have disintegrated

>>61745152
Wisch one is wisch ?

>>61745637
come on man have a think about it

look at them and see the generational differences between them

>>61745637
>>61745752
Left one is 2k3, right is 2k6.

>>61740955
MediaMagic 386 Fag again, any requests for something being typed on a IBM Selectric.

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>>61746691

>>61746691
>>61747075
Does it have printer or terminal capabilities?

>>61747116
Actually this made me think right now, could you hook up a printer and use it as a teletype terminal when connected to a computer? Like having a terminal application open on the computer and the characters are sent to the printer.

>>61747116
No it's just a typewriter

>>61746691
please type out

"Mr Robot is actually a good show."

>>61747210
lame

>>61747228
i need it for another thread

>>61747210
Webm or picture

>>61747303
webm or gif, preferably

>>61744391
dummy

>>61747406
>dummy
Go fook yourself

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>>61747406
owo

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>>61738424
>notepad screenfetch
>PSU: 400W Foxconn PSU

>>61747467
>Color monitor
>IBM XT
For what purpose.

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>>61747210
Sorry the letter spacing seems to be getting worse the longer i let it sit in storage

Just been given an old laptop with a 533MHz CPU and 128MB of RAM. It has Windows ME on at the moment, what should I do with it?

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>>61747524
VGA card?

who are we to question the logic of Sparky

>>61738629

Bet that thing would give you some badass music in old games.

>>61738629
>made in japan

i cri errytim

>>61747638
I didn't know you could put EGA or VGA cards into XT's. I always thought you needed AT-class or higher mobos. I also thought XTs were limited to CGA.

P.S: even though I rarely drink soft drinks, I did like crystal pepsi when I tried it. a pity it didn't last long.

I saw a 5100 on eBay a couple months ago but it was completely fucked.

>>61747977
>I didn't know you could put EGA or VGA cards into XT's. I always thought you needed AT-class or higher mobos. I also thought XTs were limited to CGA.
Yup, 8-bit ISA EGA and VGA cards where a thing, EGA was more common obviously. Card that supported both EGA and VGA on the same card exist too (two different display ports). Even cards that can display 16 color EGA on a MDA monochrome monitor. Some 16-bit VGA cards even work in 8-bit slots.

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OP here
Got a ps/2 keyboard and some 1mb IBM PCDOS 5.0 disks
They won't work in a 720k drive but they're IBM branded and look cool
I brought the apple keyboard back to the place, didnt ask for a refund or anything, but whoever buys the apple II there is going to want it, I just wanted to clean it up really

Heres some fax machines and word processors

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>>61749291
A whole box of floppy disks, loads for OS/2 programs and shit like that
Below that shelf is a lot of boxed software and games

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>>61749303
The monochrome brother, one of them at least, theres 5 there total, and some other older monitors, including a few IBM ones I really debated picking up but I only had 10 bucks

>>61745152
>retro
>2006, 2003

>>61749291
>ps/2
>not 5 pin AT

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>>61739420
that's definitely worth looking at, really any of that red-logo stuff is worth its weight in gold, maybe even the shells, especially the full tower models

good shit from a time when HP was a somewhat niche high-end instrument maker that actually engineered their shit rather than just Compaq wearing a cool logo, even their early Pavilions are nice

>>61749303
>loads for OS/2 programs and shit like that
How old? If they're for 1.x please for the love of fuck get some of that shit on Winworld
>>61749325
I'd pair a 30 with an 8513 if you can find one

>>61749576
Why would I get 5 pin at
I needed ps/2
For a ps/2 model 30

>>61749607
If I wasnt broke I would grab them
Don't get paid til Tuesday though

>>61749639
1.0 and up, its hundreds of disks in that box and only the stuff on top is for anything else
Bunch of apple disks in there too

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im so excited. I have been looking to get a good crt tv for retro games and a finally had the opportunity to grab one. Its a sony KV-20EXR10 in really good condition just a little dirty. Manufacture date is july 1990. Cant wait to get it setup and start to enjoy it.

>>61749739
Nice anon!

>>61749739
nice microwave

>>61749739
I use to have a sony just like that as a kid, great memories of SNES funtimes on it

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*** these drives, eBay only sells the ribbon cable types of these merged data/power variants.

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Fuck these piss yellow keys

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>tfw too scared to get all kinds of plague bugs within those cases from dirty homes/offices/basements

>>61750706
*of getting all this shit because of those dirty places.

need sleep

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>>61747638

>VGA
>A FUCKING SAMSUNG SSD

>in an original XT

>>61750706
>>61750717
theres something called cleaning, try it

>>61750788
I think it was a Turbo-XT board though

>>61750447
R E T R O B R I T E

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>>61750795
>implying you're able to take apart a CRT, every open component in it like coils and connectors to check if there are bedbugs just in time before they took over your home
yeah I don't think so

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Heres the ps/2 battery
Google says these can last 40-50 years and are used in various missile guideance systems

>>61750851
that's exactly what I do in my garage or veranda before I hoal shit into my room, I won't even turn something on before doing that

>>61750873
Top fucking kek, military hardware right here.
This shit is fine, you won't' have to worry about it leaking or giving up life anytime soon. If you are worried, just replace it with a supercap.

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>>61750896
They just dont make em like they use to

Also, check out these old SIMMs

>>61750938
AHAHAHA
What the actual fuck anon, that looks like 70's semiconductor tech

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>>61750896
>supercap.
those aren't trustworthy either.

just install a normal ass 3V cell like pic related but for one of course and place it somewhere away from the board. perfectly sufficient for another decade, especially when using some nice panasonic ones.

>>61750447
>>61750833
Just putting them out in the sun in a hydrogen peroxide solution won't do shit if all the keys aren't facing the sun directly

>>61750960
>those aren't trustworthy either.
what are you talking about, modern ones will easily last 30 years and never leak, bonus being they don't require exchanging like coin cells do, not to mention, being much cleaner looking

>>61750973
I swish em around every 30 minutes

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>>61750973

what if you put them neatly in a transparent container filled with that stuff and BLAST IT WITH A 25w UV-LED FOR 24H?

Do those homegrower leds have the same effect like the sunlight?

>>61750995
>they don't require exchanging like coin cells do

Where do you think do think does the power that is supposed to be in those caps come from?

>>61751015
won't help you much, talking from experience, going to be uneven as fuck

>>61751016
as long the light hights the yellowed parts directly there's no problem
if you use LEDs they have to be special UV LEDs
fluorescent UV lamps also work

>>61751037
They are called supercaps (super-capacitors) for a reason, they recharge with the feedback power.
That's why they are so popular as CMOS battery replacements, literary solder one on and forget about it, as long as you use the machine from time to time, it's never going to run dry.

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Well lads, this thread inspired me to go back to my teenage years. I picked up a complete working tower Dimension L800CXE. All it needs is an operating system. I had this beauty originally in 2001 (right before the coming of XP) with Win 98SE in the place of the factory Win Me and a 3DFX voodoo 3 2000 to replace the onboard graphics. I think I still got the original factory reinstall cd laying somewhere. I still got the 3DFX Voodoo 3 and the Win98SE CD to. Pic kinda related

>>61751053
>hights
hits*

I can't focus today

>>61751092
Cool anon, that's nice.

>>61751079
>feedback power
?
My guess is that this would only work on boards that had one of these disgusting nickel-cadmium rechargeables since charging voltage would kill lithium button cells.
So, those caps wouldn't work on every board.

>>61751092

looks in great shape!
just bleach the cd drive since it really fucks with the nice clean look.

>>61751119
>My guess is that this would only work on boards that had one of these disgusting nickel-cadmium rechargeables since charging voltage would kill lithium button cells.
>So, those caps wouldn't work on every board.
Few threads back was talking about a guy who had ordered a new battery for his PS/2 system, there was talk about supercaps too and yes, he had feedback power, specially measured it for the purpose of the discussion.
Almost all boards feed power back, even when the cells aren't supposed to be rechargeables. Try it if you don't believe me, just takes a multimeter.

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Picked up an old 2004 IBM eServer.

That thing already looked so fucking dated when it was new it's fucking delicious.
Will use it as my main case now. I fucking love the aesthetics of that thing.

>>61751176
>even when the cells aren't supposed to be rechargeables
Interesting!
I thought those cells would go up in a couple seconds when they get fed but I guess the current is so low that they just dissipate the shit they don't need as heat

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>>61751177
It's this one btw.
Still has 6 fucking SCSI HP drives in it with 75gb each.

>>61751195
>I guess the current is so low
Probably, else they won't last long as you said.
I also think some boards won't feed back as much power when there actually is some in the battery, only feeding it back after there is little or no current in the battery anymore, the CMOS needs power even when there is no battery. I know that even systems that don't work/boot without a CMOS battery will still feed power back to the battery pins when turned on.

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>>61751145
Yeah the pic aint of the one I just got, this is what it looks like according to the seller. Won't really know till I get it and see for myself. Original one I had back in 2001 came with a 8x CD burner. Whoever had the one I just bought did me a few favors, they upgraded the HDD to 40GB (original came with 20GB) and upgraded the ram, 384MB (vs 256mb original). All of the other internal components, Audio/modem, are stock just like I remember.

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>look on ebay for the shits
>some old consumer HP premade computer from fucking 2001 in the "classic computer" section

>22 bids
>€30

So apparently totally vanilla run off the mill computers form the early 2000s are already worth something? The fuck?
There's literally nothing special about these anymore.
Or is it just an Ebay seller circlejerk who THINK they must have them in case the price increases and not actual people behind the bids?

>>61751242
that's probably also the reason why some old barrel cells would actually leak faster when they where empty but still in use, they didn't like the power getting fed back into them

>>61751319
I see random Pentium 1 and related laptops in shitty condition go for 80€-120€ occasionally on a local site while things like Apple II's, Amigas, older Macintoshes or Commodore 64's go for half of that on the same site
I have no idea where those Wintel fanboys come from, probably hipster tier shit

>>61751319
You got 3 groups of people who buy that shit
1) hipster trash
2) people just getting into retro computers but dont have the know how to deal with 286 or earlier stuff
3) bsuinesses who need specific era hardware to replace their specialized machines

I worked in a factory that was using an older 286 machine as the computer for a large CNC machine from the 80's
If it needed to be replaced, newer hardware might not work with the incredibly old software

>>61751448
you forgot mindless collectors
I've seen collectors with some pretty nice old machines (Kaypro, XT, etc) who still buy those laptops just because... they literary hoard them

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>>61751448
I'm always charmed then I see Win3.1 still in use in car shops or as you said, next to CNC machines or other metal processing machinery.

>>61751581
There was an older mori sekei lathe machine that ran off a commodore 64 there
This place gets nasty, but the owner is a jew, to avoid having to replace the C64 in the future it has a 3 day cleaning regiment and at the end of the shift on the third day it goes to the front office, gets meticulously cleaned and brought back
It will probably last until the next century

>>61751581
That's just you, I'm HORRIEFIED when I see w3 still used in my local ATM (complete with 4bit colors, therefore no antialiased fonts, 640x480 and at some point I even saw the top window controls peaking behind the window).
Funny to look at and looks are irrelevant but safety wise, how is this responsible in these times?

>>61751448
Why don't they just upgrade the controller lol?

>>61751696
compatibility

might require more replacement then just the controller

don't fucking change something that works

>>61751696
fixing is cheaper and less stressful than completely changing the controller complete with new software (license costs? staff schooling?) fitting etc etc

>>61751677
Good thing about Windows 3.1 is that you can't get infected these days (because of malware relying on 32-bit and 64-bit OSes).

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>>61751229

I love these eServer xSeries, so cheap to upgrade. I have two 346s myself.

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>>61751884
that's fukken sex right there.

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Hard drive is probably empty or dead
I dont have 720k boot floppies, but the drive does read the 1mb disks and says theyre the wrong format

I can always get some boot floppies on ebay

Also, look at this weird meshing of hardware eras
Ps/2 from 1987, onmitech keyboard from the mid 90's, and a screen from thr last 5 years

>>61740778
Like normal Sapporo Black Label. Think Pabst or Gansett without the funky off notes and aftertaste.

>>61752664
Yeah, my old ibm couldn't read the Windows 3.1 install floppies either back in the day (My aunt let me "borrow" them). The solution was to copy the contents of each disc to her pc one at a time then from there onto the 720kb disks (she had slightly more modern HP system, sucker had both 3.5 & 5.25 floppy drives) So in the end it took like 14 disks to copy entire Win 3.1 install. Or stick with Win 3.0, those disks are only 7 of them

>>61752914
I want to stick with PC DOS if possible
That should fit on a mere two 720k floppies

I could also whine at LGR on Twitter and trade him my complete PCDOS 5.0 on 1mb floppies for some 720k boot disks or something

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>>61752664
>Hard drive is probably empty or dead

Have you checked the BIOS setup first?
There's a high chance it lost its settings and back then you had to set up the HDD parameters manually (cylinders, sectors, heads etc)

>Be 9 circa 2003
>Have IBM PC running a Pentium 3
>It stops working
>Throw it out one day, including its Model M keyboard, CRT IBM screen, and IBM branded flat top case that locked
Top regret

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>>61753067
>Have IBM PC running a Pentium 3

If it was just a normal Thinkcentre you can get these for cheap.
If it was an actual 80's IBM AT then it wouldn't have had a Pentium 3 in it (without HEAVY customization)

>>61752664
Just get a USB floppy drive and write them yourself
Don't you really have a way to write floppies? No other machine with a drive?

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>>61753067
These for example.
sometimes even for free if you're lucky since these were usually used in offices, schools etc and they don't care about getting money back in from old ass PCs

>>61752965
>I could also whine at LGR on Twitter and trade him my complete PCDOS 5.0 on 1mb floppies for some 720k boot disks or something
Why?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-Portable-External-3-5-1-44MB-Floppy-Disk-Drive-Diskette-for-PC-Laptop-/281187883565?hash=item41781a9a2d:g:6H0AAOSw91NTrmqH

https://winworldpc.com/product/pc-dos

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>>61753118
>(without HEAVY customization)
you mean sleeper

>>61753066
I have no idea how to even get to the bios

>>61753162
I have my G40 with a floppy drive and my 380ED has one too
The issue is if they can actually format 720k

>>61753201
I need 720k, I can just get them off eBay, badgering lgr was more of a joke

>>61753342
Any 1.44MB drive can format 720KB
Most USB floppies also do

>>61753066
>>61753311
Getting to the BIOS requires a configuration disk too.
It isn't some magical computer where you press a button at startup and it pops up a CMOS configuration screen.

http://classiccomputers.info/down/IBM_PS2/documents/PS2_Model_30-286_Guide_to_Operations_Sep88.pdf

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>>61753255
Y-yes but don't tell anyone. There were enough old IBMs getting butchered for i3 based gaymen mainboards and DVD drives instead of 5.25" floppos

>>61753162
>>61753168
I think it was a PC 300XL or something similar.

Remember, if you gut a machine for a (((sleeper))) build and dont sell on the parts you are literally hitler.
Even better, just buy the fucking case on ebay and leave me alone.

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>>61753445
>leave me alone.
You're an old machine?

>>61753407
>It isn't some magical computer where you press a button at startup and it pops up a CMOS configuration screen.

oh fug, I forgot about those dark times.
meanwhile my 286 AT by Schneider from 1988 has the Phoenix BIOS utility always in rom lel

>>61753460
I wish, I'd probably be more useful.

>>61753467
>meanwhile my 286 AT by Schneider from 1988 has the Phoenix BIOS utility always in rom lel
Those are already way newer machines, clones of the IBMs.
Clones always came out a little bit after the machines they cloned and sometimes had advanced features.

>>61753467
>286 AT by Schneider
Is that the one that looks like three books side by side?
it's cool

>>61753445
I bought the dimension with the intention of seeing if I could get it to work
PSU was dead and leaked all over the mobo, no ram, no HDD, everything was nasty dirty like heavy smoker + owns 10 cats, it was toast
It will be my sleeper
I would under no circumstances modify an old IBM pc of any kind in order to make a sleeper

And sure, if you want a 700mhz Pentium 3 and an ati rage 128, ill sell em, for now theyre sitting in a drawer

>>61753487
>700mhz Pentium 3
I need a one (1) gigahurtz Socket 370 Coppermine

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>>61753445
I heard there's a special place in hell for fags who ruin actual classic machines for shitty sleeper builds.

but yes, buying an old empty case is probably kind of ok, especially if it's in bad shape and you restore it.

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>>61753503
ebin

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>>61753487
>I would under no circumstances modify an old IBM pc of any kind in order to make a sleeper

>>61753525
Fuck

>>61753525
>that abysmal "i cut off the plastic with some scissors while drunk" shit near the clock
Holy fuck, if that was done with a dremel i worry for that person. Hopefully when i make my blasphemous hackmac plusintosh i dont fuck it up that bad.

>>61753525
>>61753575
What's more funny is that he had to cut the screen bigger
>what's the matter kiddo, an actual MDA monitor screen too small for you?

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>>61753486
FUCK YES, MY DUDE.

I didn't expect anyone here to know these.

Mine looks exactly like this.
Back then I also had an EGA EIZO monitor to go with it but when I was in my early teens I was dumb enough to throw the old monitor away. Almost two decades later I regret it but at least I still have the main system.

- 286 at 10MHz
- 640 + 384kb extended
- 40MB MFM HDD
- 1 DD floppy
- originally EGA graphics but I stuffed a Trident VGA into it
- Soundblaster Pro ISA

>>61753592
Sweet dude, very very sweet

>>61747638
tfw sparky4 doesn't come to my irc channel anymore after many a year
feels bad man
CRAZY even

>>61753621
I feel like you tried to greentext

>>61753592
fuck, I remember this from back in the day. They were sexy as fuck, even back then!

>>61753617
>>61753637
The great thing is that they're also so light and compact that I will probably never have to part from it and keep it literally forever, even when moving a lot.
Currently sitting in my bookshelf, waiting for reactivation and action!

And as you guys said, really neat system indeed...

>>61753629
if I were trying to greentext then who would I be quoting?

>>61753684
yourself

>>61747535
>>61747535
>>61747535
>>61747535
OMG ANON DELIVERED, thanks dude! I was worried the thread 404d when I went to bed

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>>61753487
>PSU was dead and leaked all over the mobo

His power source unit ACTUALLY was a hamster in a generator wheel

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>>61753511
>>61753525

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>>61750642
>>61753540
>>61753774
>>61753832
>>61753842

kek

>>61753770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-TkQ7KZcbI
This one isn't too bad.

>>61753887
Well a 1995 Aptiva isn't that much of a classic machine to me anyways.
And he also did some neat stuff with it so it's ok in my book.

I only rage at the original computer classic hack jobs, follow up generations are not that important especially if the person does a good job modifying.

>>61754019
>I only rage at the original computer classic hack jobs, follow up generations are not that important
where do you draw the line?

AT was already 3 generations in as a PC, is that important?
the Osborne Vixen was also 3 generations in from the Osborne line, still far far rarer than the Osborne 1, but guess that's okay to hackjob too, like you said, it's not an original and it's a follow up generation

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>>61749607
why is it that all 80/90/00's pictures tend to have a warm feel to them .? can anyone explain this ? because i love it and feels nostalgic as fuck

>>61754107
everything still has cigarette smoke stains

>>61754107
the pictures have warm lighting/colors
they are always actual scanned pictures instead of digital ones

>>61754107
Film cameras.

>>61754065
The original AT brought a lot of new things to the table but yeah it's all my subjective opinion.

Generally I'm ok with it as long as it's not a rare machine that gets butchered and if it's well done.
Good XTs and ATs are quite hard to come by already.
If you rescue a rusty one from the dump with the mainboard eaten away by battery acid and hollow drive trays and you want to put some good new stuff in it? Sure... but no fucking blue LEDs

>>61754107
analog everything, softer lenses, distortions, material was aged before it was scanned etc.

>>61754107
Photos meant something. Not every fuckwad had a digital camera up their bum quite yet.

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>>61754170
>>61754120

Thanks for answering that.
I wonder, is there a name for that kind of photography and do people still recreate it ?

>>61754195
Yes, it's film photography, just get a cheapo film camera and someone to develop it

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>>61754217
thanks man.
reminds me of better times
good times :)

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>>61754019
I'm thinking about doing something like that with a Gateway 2000 full tower case one day.

>>61754195
literally every smartphone "app" comes with crappy film emulation but it's shit.

as the other anon already said, if you're really interested in this, get a good ol canon or nikon (there were also lots of other great brands but a beginner has to start somewhere). you can get a good one still for breddy cheap. start photographing on film, develop the stuff and have fun.
you might also want to start lurking on >>>/p/

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>>61754261
I will take a look at what i can find on nikon bodies . I will however need to learn how to develop film and such as i have read people using "dark rooms for this".

But thanks anons for helping me out.

>>61754257
Cool tower case.
And yeah, since it's pretty vanilla hardware in these I'd also have no shame to stuff some new tech in it. Just keeping it lo key.
If you're willing to tinker you could also take the front of those old CD drives and glue it on a dismantled DVD burner but only if you're really autistic enough for this kind of details

>>61754295
>I will however need to learn how to develop film
Not 100% sure but I think there are still quite a few places around that develop film.
But of course it's not wrong to learn do to it yourself especially if you want to have the full experience and fun and secondly because it would be cheaper in the long run.

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>>61754300
The only problem is I would have to make an entirely custom case and put the panels on it since it doesn't take ATX boards. I would be much better off using one of these since these are actual full-ATX cases

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>>61754295
don't forget to buy a hair piece and put it on your head before you start with this hobby.

when you start looking around for a nice lens and see how hipsters, vloggers and amateur filmers drive up prices of classic lenses and even irreparably DAMAGE the lens to make them fit on their 2017 vlog camera you will start ripping hair from your head.

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>>61754363
>irreparable DAMAGE the lens to make them fit on their 2017 vlog camera.

>>61754330
>since it doesn't take ATX boards
OH.
Well, yeah... This involves some extended dremeling and tinkering IF you have the nerve for this kinda stuff. I actually enjoy doing some hands on shit with hardware every now and then, maybe you like that stuff too.

But you always have to think about if it's worth it.
For example I have a hateboner for BTX cases.

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>>61754330
Should have fallen for the enlight meme.

>>61754415
>I have no mouth and I must scream

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check this badboy out

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>>61754412
>For example I have a hateboner for BTX cases.
Same here with Dell's ribbon cable front panel connectors (like in one of these things).

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This for example is a normal ass 286 PC but the case design was made by a really well known product designer who did a lot of stuff for product ergonomics (for example nikon camera body ergonomics).
Even if you may think it's ugly as fuck it's a fucking collectible already although it's not an old IBM or other classic computer

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>>61753067
I have a worse story
>Be 2001
>Family just moved into first house after living in an apartment
>Grandpa gives me his old IBM 5150 with working HDD
>His oldest son gave it to him back in 1990 and used it to write 1 Christmas letter and never touched it again.
>Mess around with, don't know shit about Dos but think it's pretty cool
>FF a few years and our city is doing one of those free bring electronics to recycle thing.
>Dad tells me I should get rid of it because I never use it and takes up my whole desk.
>Ok Dad
>Pack it up and bring it to the recycle center
This is the only big thing i regret from my teenage years. I had a full working system with HDD and printer, and just threw it away. There is probably a place in Hell for me because of that.

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one of the most "serious" and sober looking computer I've seen.

>>61754490
I have a few of those sitting in my closet, Those motherfucking front panel usb ports.

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NEXT

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>>61754526

>MegaPixelDisplay

He really pushed hard for faggotry, even in 1990

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>>61754537
>1990 retina

I feel no love for 98, but 95 makes me nostalgic.

I think its because I never really used 95; my limited memories of it are playing where in the world is carmen sandiago, "IT IS NOW SAFE TO TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER" and as a kid thinking my dad was a fucking wizard for upgrading the machine to 98

All 98 brings back to me is endless issues with every fucking game i would try play (because it was a 95 machine upped to 98, it was gutless), watching my dad play rainbow six, and thats about all.

xp is where my nostalgia is, i guess thats where i discovered the internet, game maker, and was REALLY able to play age of empires, rise of nations, command conquer.

doing work for DoD as IT support means i now have to see the inside and outside of xp, constantly, every fucking day, and now i can see how limited and troublesome it can be.

anyway despite this, i still want to build an old school gaming rig, using gear i never could as a kid. ive never used a voodoo, or soundcards, or anything like that; our first machine was a beige box with zero addons.

i guess mostly because age of empires and is one of the only games i still play, and i want to feel like i know my shit by building old shit, rather than new machines that are bits of expensive lego.

>>61754499
Shit thats nice. Reminds me of Ford's mid-late 90s designs. I am one of the weird ones who think the 3rd gen taurus looked cool though.

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>>61754573
I had 98SE and it was breddy gud.

My best friend back then had an Win ME machine and it crashed CONSTANTLY, lel.
I'm glad I never had to use that pile of shit.

After 98SE I used 2000 and after that XP and 7.
...Now Mint KDE lol

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>>61754499
I didn't know Colani designed PCs.

>>61754604
Yeah Highscreen was a PC brand from around his residence so I guess that's how it all came together

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the nostalgia is STRONK

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>>61754604
so did Mitsubishi

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>>61754655
I can't remember when was the last time I've actually seen "MADE IN JAPAN" on a new tech device

>>61735545
I saw this on reddit. Do you have anything to say for yourself?

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>>61754687

>>61753162
Has anyone ever made a 5 1/4 USB floppy Drive.

>>61754707
way to ruin the image by having to explain the obvious joke at the bottom

>>61754687
I post in more places than 4chan anon
If it makes you hurt more, I also posted about it on funnyjunk.com/technology and all over my normie facebook page

>>61754763

I was researching on getting a conversion done using an Arduino but apparently it's even to slow to process data read from a fucking Floppy.
There's some controller that KIND OF works but it costs fucking 80 bucks.
Then there's also another controller but it doesn't work as a normal controller and rather reads RAW data from the floppy for archiving purposes.

tl;dr normal USB 5.25" floppy fun is almost impossible

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And check out its sexy 8087

Love me some purple ceramic and gold

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>>61754855
that's sad.
the last mainboard I got that had floppy support was from 2009 (3.5" but I guess it probably supported the floppies too).

>>61754901
I take that back, I thought it was an aftermarket 8087
But now I have no idea what it is

>>61744321
Yes. It's not just for games though.

>>61747771
It does.

>>61755191
>It's not just for games though.
but i asked you then if you were going to build an old school daw and you said it was for games

The first pc I ever bought the parts and built myself was not long after 2001. Was built strictly for gaming/fun so I didn't really go crazy spec wise. (Still had the dell L800CXE system). It had a Celeron 1.4Ghz/512 (or maybe 1GB) ram/20GB hdd/ 3DFX voodoo 3 2000 (Pulled from the L800CXE)/PC Power & Cooling mid tower case & PSU (Was featured in an issue of Maximum PC back in the day). I still got this system. It's packed away in storage. The original Voodoo 3 was pulled several years ago and placed in a sealed box in an anti static bag. This "New" L800CXE that I'm gonna build/refit will feature another Voodoo 3 that I got way back before they came kinda collector's items. So it kinda comes back full circle, started out with a Dimension/Voodoo, now it ends with one.

>>61755262
>It had a Celeron 1.4Ghz
fucking dammit, anon.
I'm not even memeing here but that was pretty much around the time when you could have a fuckton more performance when going with those other guys.
celerons were a fucking scam.

>>61755315
I didn't really know to much back then (as did we all) plus I was just 19/20 at the time, money was something I didn't have a lot of (come to thing of it,wtf, I still don't got a lot of money now,lol)

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Sale this weekend.

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>>61755353
crap happens but at least you have that delicious voodoo card

>>61755241
That was before I got my hands on the MCB-10 that I thought would be impossible to locate.

>>61755392
fuck yeah. so what programs you gonna run?

>>61755355
not a crappleboi but those old aluminium pro macs looked cool as fug

>>61755411
Cakewalk for starters, mostly because it's familiar.

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don't stoppy that floppy

>>61755466
>Cakewalk
huh. i cant say ive ever used it tbqh

>>61755594
I used v5 on DOS way back. Really nice interface at the time.
Plenty of software came bundled with the card too that I need to look at. Soundquest stuff might be another option.

>>61755665
what os are you running? is reason available?

>>61754573
What forgotten office are you in where you still use XP?

We're getting ready to kick all win 7 machines off of our network.. AF HQ has mandated that *everyone* goes to windows 10.

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Does anyone here understand how the I/O port addresses on the original IBM PC work? I posted here a couple of days ago asking for some help setting up a what I now know is A Diamond Flower MF-100 memory expansion card with real time clock, and I was given a link to the proper programs to set it up, but unfortunately the card isn't recognized. I tried both jumper settings that appear in the card's manual, but I still received the same message. The reason that I asked about the I/O ports is that the manual mentions that the clock can be disabled in case if it conflicts with other devices using the same port. Also, does anyone know of any other issues that could cause this to happen? I replaced the battery somewhat recently, so I don't think that's whats causing the issue.

Also manual for anyone who cares:
http://minuszerodegrees.net/manuals/DFI/Diamond%20Flower%20MFPLUS%20and%20MF-100%20-%20User%20manual.pdf

>>61755412
I'm using one as my case right now.

The dual processors were cool, but the radiator that would spring a leak and ruin all your components was totally not cool.

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Here's my IBM Thinkpad 755C. It's a neat little machine. It's got a 486 something or other CPU and 8MB of memory.

>>61755676
Hah, no. The box it's in is running MS-DOS 7.1 standalone with WfW 3.11. I googled around and it doesn't appear to be Win32s compatible.

I could tranfser it to a Win98SE box but that one's running an Abit BH-6 mobo that will probably cause the OS to shit itself the instant a new set of ISA IRQ/address resources are introduced. That and I want to keep the setup more oldschool anyway.

>>61755687
>What forgotten office are you in where you still use XP?
the australian defence force.

>>61755747
hnnnnnnghhhhhhh

(i think)

im too young to ever have used 3.1; my first pc usage was on 95

the idea of creating content on these old machines for some reason makes me really excited.

pls post pictures of the daw

>>61755751
Ah, when you said DoD I just assumed USA.

>>61753487
>700MHz P3
My dad had one of those with win2k as his workstation for years. It was a glorious machine for the time.

>>61755762
Still waiting on the breakout box to actually get here to set it up. It's coming from the Netherlands, apparently.

>>61739223
Croatia is the worse country.

-t Serbia

>>61735545
>I also got an Apple keyboard from I think a 2 C.
If you have //c keyboard you have practically the whole machine.
Nice looking Mod 30. Slow as death. ST-506 hard drive, 720 Kb floppy on the 8086. In other words, a PC-XT. Not even Microchannel, only ISA.

>>61755812
trying my best to avoid the 4chan botnet

>>61755868
is anything on the machine functional as it is rn?

>>61756086
It's just set up as a PC on a wire shelf atm. Been using it mostly to play DOS-era adventure games.

I need to dig out a K1M and PC-200 from the attic but come to think of it that K1M was a right cunt to use and I should probably find something better.

It's funny, looking back on it, DOS with TSRs was almost a microkernel setup. Filesystems other than FAT, networking, multitasking, memory management, device drivers, all that shit had to either run in a TSR or get baked into the application itself. I've been playing around with FreeDOS recently and some of the old programs' documentation is fascinating stuff. It's a unique mix of the conversational, the technical FAQs, and "you paid hundreds for this software, here's how to crawl inside its asshole and rearrange its guts." MS-Kermit in particular is noticeable for this.

i found an eletronic typewriter here, it is an Olivetti Praxis 20
found out it is a 1982 model, and it was the only typewriter made by Olivetti on Italy, their home country

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>>61751884
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kurwa

>>61755355
Get me a 3.5" floppy for an Apple II and a NuBus video card.

K tnx

>>61756176
>>61756158
pics plox

>>61754771
kiddos won't get it

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>>61755690
You sure you have the right driver/TSR/utility?
IIRC the link was just something to try, nobody knew if the things there will work for you.

I/O port addresses are all jumper or DIP switch configured.
I can't recall if having a RTC needed configuration on the actual motherboard DIP switches too.

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>>61756626

>>61756645
>>61756626
you got monkey island on there?

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>>61756659

>>61755747
>I googled around and it doesn't appear to be Win32s compatible.
IIRC there's a patch for Win3.1 to run NT 4.0 binaries

>>61755519
I have a old Macintosh with a replaced SuperDrive that pretty much does this, only 100x faster, you don't want to be in front of it when you eject the floppy

>>61756773
Webm now.

>>61756783
It's in storage
I think the floppy eject mechanism gets stuck somewhere and then pops loose and that's why it fires it out, it makes a click sound

>>61756767
You mean win32s?

>>61756696
nice dude. how much did this all cost you?

err can you show me your desktop?

are you into coding? got any ides on there?

someone in this thread a month or two ago posted them using visual basic 3 or 6 or something like that; i went to the effort of installing win 3.1 just to install it, amazing how they had that level of functionality 25 fucking years ago.

>>61756821
that shit fascinated me back then when I used 3.1.
seemed almost like some sort of sorcery.

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>>61756843
>how much did this all cost you?
Probably a couple thousand originally. The only new-ish parts are the CD drive (also from an older build), floppy emu, and the RAP-10 which was a garage sale find with some other stuff. The floppy emu was around $20 and the RAP-10 probably worked out to less than $3. Funny enough the breakout box I'm waiting on is going to be the most expensive "new" component at close to $50 shipped.

>err can you show me your desktop?
The WfW 3.11 desktop? It's not much to look at.

>are you into coding?
Not so much now. Borland's DOS IDEs were the shit though.

>>61757025
>The WfW 3.11 desktop? It's not much to look at.
im not sure what i am looking at here. is this microsoft windows 3.1?

>>61757025
>Probably a couple thousand originally
I wonder what ti would cost to compile this exact machine today

>>61757071
Windows for Workgroups 3.11
Basically Windows 3.1 + MS NET suite

>>61757071
>is this microsoft windows 3.1?
Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11

>I wonder what ti would cost to compile this exact machine today
Probably not a whole lot aside from the Roland card. Parts list:

Generic AT case
350W AT PSU
Generic socket 5 mobo
Pentium 133Mhz
32mb 72-pin EDO RAM
Matrox Millenium 4MB
3Com NIC
USR 56k faxmodem (lel)
Sound Blaster 16
Roland Rap-10
2.1GB Seagate HDD
LG 12x8x32 cd burner (not actually used for burning)
3.5" floppy
Gotek floppy emu

Case/PSU could easily be swapped for modern ATX with an adapter, and a CF card w/IDE adapter could be used if you can't get ahold of a reliable HDD. I highly recommend period Matrox cards though. They're brilliant.

>>61757266
Xorg only dropped its 90s Matrox driver this spring lel.

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>>61755355
reminds me of the marion stokes collection

>>61757405
Just looked her up... 40,000 videotapes.
Truly a legend.

To digitize it all:
According to the article, she would record for 6 hours at a time.
6hr/tape * 40k tapes = 240k hrs of video.
It can be safely assumed that 1 hour of tape is about 1GB, so that's 240 TB.
A blu-ray DL can hold 50GB of data. That's 4,800 blu-ray disks to archive all of that.
$2/disk = $9600

So on the low end, it would cost $10k to move all of that to optical archive.
$8k if you use 6TB hard disks, but that doesn't factor in replacement drives and the actual hardware needed to run them.

>>61757266
Nice Pentium anon

>>61756249
Bardzo wygodne

>>61757405
>Goes to Wikipedia page for the iBook
>Key Lime exclusive to Apple Online Store
That's gotta be a collector's item right there.

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1960s

>>61754490
Those fucking cases were the worst.

Fucking heavier then hell, hard to access USB ports. Opens like a fucking car hood.

>>61755730
I have a 750C with docking station. Glorious computers.

>>61757266
Recorded a little something from the line-out:
https://clyp.it/25lt4cdc

>>61755687
trust me so many government computers are still on xp all your medical records are not safe

>>61758872
>>61758872
>>61758872
this, its really frightening how archaic a lot of critical infrastructure is

>>61753621
>>61747638
>>61738450

Stop trying to make 'Sparky' a thing, it's never going to happen.

>>61759639
If you think you can rebuild a country's infrastructure every 10 years, be my guest.

>>61736835
Our first family compter had the same case. Also ran Windows 98. Not sure about specs.

Thats a good looking case.

>>61751677
Its not on public internet. Its on a private network with the bank only.

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>>61754490
should i rescue this thing from being recycled?

>>61759696
You must be pretty new here.