Greetings.
A few days late, but added Ryzen 3. 1300X only, as the 1200 does not seem to be worth it, particularly for gaming-focused builds. How does this look?
Suggestions, comments, and criticisms are all welcome.
Maybe link your fucking spreadsheet if you want to make a thread about it faggot
>>61729272
fuck off with your spam falcon
your home address and identity are easy to finally also
>>61729272
>not recommending overclocked g3900 instead of the much more expensive i3
>>61729272
Looks ok.
>>61729272
>1200 isn't worth it
>but let's include an i3 and a locked i5
Gammax 400 is shit, same price as a 212 Evo and cools worse, and CM sends out AM4 brackets for free. 212 even weighs less and is only 4mm taller.
My opinion is that you have way too many intel processors in your lineup.
especially at that super-high end extreme red edition level- those intel processors have gimped performance in games compared to the AMD counterparts at those price points. The pinnacle of muh games performance is the 7700k, and lower is worse and higher is also worse for gaming, and when you get to more cores from intel, each core is weaker.
any intel core cpu below i7 7700k should be replaced with cheaper AMD equivalents as they perform the same or better
and the i9 sucks ass and there is no point buying them
not recommended at all
should be replaced with threadripper instead
or maybe you could fill each bracket with an intel and an AMD cpu that perform roughly the same
>>61729490
fuck off newfag
>logicalincrementsdotcom
>>61729272
>G4560 $70
>G4560 $80
oy vey
>>61729608
This list isn't just for gaming desu
>>61729611
Threadripper ain't out, probably gonna be a major shakeup when it is.
>Adding AYYMD HOUSEFIRES garbage
Just remove that shit and add Coffee Lake
There shouldn't be anything past the i7 7700K for pure muh gaems builds, aside from adding delidding costs
Neither should be Intel anything below the i7
>>61729671
It literally says everywhere that the list it's made for gaming workloads
>>61729706
>adding unreleased CPUs that will probably be housefires if X299 is anything to go by
>listening to retarded housefires spammer who needs to kill himself ASAP
Just remove this faggot and add more Threadrippers.
>>61729640
Yea i'm a newfag because i don't need to be spoonfed pc builds
Sure thing kid
>>61729516
Cannot really recommend stuff based on the overclocked performance. Many people do not OC.
>>61729551
They do send AM4 brackets for free, but people are going to get upset if they stuff they buy does not work out-of-the-box.
>>61729752
>recommend non stock coolers for everything above good tier
>most people don't OC
>>61729608
You are correct: At the highest tiers, you lose some single-threaded performance. The best CPU for gaming is the 7700K (or 7740K). The highest tiers are for people who want maximum power in other areas, as well as gaming. My logic is that these people who are willing to throw $2K and $3K at their setups are going to have 1440p or 4K screens, where they are going to be limited by the GPU, not CPU.
>>61729611
TR is not out yet. Will update when it is.
>>61729649
Thanks. Fixing.
>>61729706
Coffee Lake is not out yet.
>>61729745
Congratz on being able to do something incredibly simple.
You're still a newfag btw.
>>61729842
>Most
Come on, be fair.
>>61729490
delet
>>61729752
Why not a 612 then
>>61729879
CM 612? I will check out reviews.
>>61729745
You're an extremely new newfag
>>61729510
>easy to finally
fuck off retarded phoneposter
>>61729843
>G4600 $82
>G4600 $87
>Dark Rock $75
>Dark Rock $85
>16gb $119
>16gb $136
>M12II $55
>M12II $60
You're slipping mang
>>61729964 are you planning to remove all the Intel x series when the threadrippers come out? also whats a good gpu for the fx-6300?
>>61729706
my R5 1600 6c/12t takes less power than a i7 77k 4c/8t whilst delivering same game and much better multitask/streaming performance at 100$ less
LMAO
>>61730011
The CPU was a mistake, fixed now. For the rest:
Dark Rock 3
Dark Rock Pro 3
16GB @ 2400
16GB @ 3200
M12II 520
M12II 620
But thanks! Any more?
>>61730030
If it is good.
>>61730030
RX 460 / GTX 1050
>>61729845
>>61729995
At least i'm not homosexual :)
More feedback is always welcome.
>>61729272
Shouldn't you drop that i3 7100 with r3 1200 instead?
it's 4c4t and way better in many ways
>>61730470
All the reviews are unanimous: The 1200 is inferior.
>>61730525
Hey Falcon dude. I'm not sure about how you manage the logicalincrements stuff.
It's gaming aimed, right?
The 1200 is a 1300X with slower clocks. If you OC it they are equal. Ryzen is easy AF to OC and even a retard with youtube tutorials can do it.
>>61730627
>If you OC it they are equal.
/g/ has gone through this argument quite a few times. You should not have a comparison where you OC one CPU and not OC the other.
>>61729272
>G4560
>$70
Oh, come on.
We know the price already reach bullshit tier.
Even now people in my country are forced to buy a bundle with no name Mobo(Colorfull) because these company were the only one who still got stock for this CPU.
are you stupid?
They both reach the same OC ceiling.
They are both equal at same clockspeeds. It's not about an OC vs a Non OC.
For that matter you could downclock the1300X to 1200x to have the same power efficiency.
They are the same speed , just that one comes with a "pre-OC" it'd just dumb to recommend the 1300X in any case.
>>61730711
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117743
Non-USA get different prices.
>>61729272
kill yourself
>>61730728
>They both reach the same OC ceiling.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_3_1200/19.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_3_1300X/19.html
>>61729272
hey falcon
id greet you on steam, but you were conveniently here
>>61730772
Yet it's not worth the extra $20. Not at that price range, where people are on a TIGHT budget.
>>61729842
stock coolers are shit, well... outside of amds, but at the same time stock are noisier and needs to be cleaned more often, so non stock is usually the way to go here.
I noticed MSI x370 mobo listed but arent MSI mobos at a moment a huge fucking mess?
>>61730926
There are cheaper CPUs for cheaper builds. When reviews are comparing the 1200 performance to the Pentiums, how can I justify its recommendation? AMD needs to drop the 1200 price to make it a logical purchase.
>>61729272
The 1200 is the same silicon as the 1300X. It has the same cooler too. Since they are unlocked, you would have to be retarded to buy the 1300X over the 1200.
>>61729272
Small inconsequential thing, but there's now 2 Crosshair VIs (hero and extreme) so it might be worth adding the full mobo name under enthusiast just for clarity.
>>61731096
It is there.
>>61731146
Woops, only looked at the OP pic.
>>61729272
Isn't the 1200 exact same thing as 1300x but cheaper and with no xfr gimmick? They both top out at 3.9 so why pay more?
>>61729272
>Recommending overpriced motherboards
>Recommending overpriced cases
>Recommending less than 8 GiB RAM (the bare minimum for Windows 10) in any build
>Recommending $25 CPU coolers for the Ryzen CPUs which come with better stock coolers
>Recommending HDDs for builds over $400
>Recommending a 2 thread Celeron over an Athlon X4 950.
>Recommending i3, i5 and i7 CPUs when Ryzen exists.
>Listing complete fantasy GPU prices. I want to see the place the sells a RX 480 for $180 these days.
Is it that hard to make the prices auto-update based on prices in online retailers (remember to filter out any out of stock cards)?
>>61731325
An auto-price updater is in the works. Which cases are overpriced?
>Athlon X4 950
This is not available for sale anywhere.
Please update your micro atx case list.
>>61729272
It's meh, I would spend the extra 30-50 bucks and get a 1500x
>>61729272
Why even recommend the G4620 at all? The price/performance is complete dogshit. Just stick to the G4560 or go up to R3 1300X. No in between. Cut the tiers in between if you have to. The $405 tier is objectively a better investment than the $540, what's the fucking point of the chart at that point? Come the fuck on my man.
Plus, suggesting a locked ir 7500 over the R5 1600? Jesus Christ mate, are you even trying right now?
>>61731594
You make a good point for the G4620. Fixing.
>>61729452
1500x should replace i5 7500
>>61731820
Both are shit.
>>61729272
Ive used your guide in 2012 when it was just an image. Works like a charm for almost 5 years now. Thanks man. Pic related.
>>61731844
True, but us poorfags need something that our poorupees can buy
>>61729490
Yelling and saying faggot doesn't make you fit in
Be part of a generation of niceposters
>>61729490
Read the sticky retard
>>61729452
Why is 1700 after 7700k but cheaper?
>>61729272
>unironically recommending 1080 SLI setups over1080 Ti
I honestly think the 1200 should replace i3.
Your guide is shit, why would you buy a i3 in 2017
>>61733107
The Coffee Lake i3s released later this year will have 4 cores and 8 threads.
>>61730672
but you should if the non ocable one is more expensive and cant be overclocked.
>>61733422
They aren't even out yet though, plus they need a new motherboard
>>61729272
gib free game
>>61733422
This is not confirmed.
>>61732718
Fuck off nigger
>>61733656
Remove your name tag immediately
>>61729272
AMD A6-9500 looks like a new budget choice that will be upgradable as it's the cheapest AM4 chip on the block. Athlon X4 950 also fits some too-poor-for-Ryzen, but it doesn't have the integrated video.
AMD A12-9800(E) looks like a fine and dandy media/slim/cheap-but-functional PC chip.
>>61732718
Not on my watch, cunt.