/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Does anybody use a keyboard cover on their thinkpad?

>>61722196
whats the cheapest thinkpad with a 1080p screen?
I just want a computer to keep down by my severs to manage them

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what kind of stickers should I use to enhance the AESTHETICS of this?

>>61722261
none, stickers are for degenerates

>>61716120
anyone got an idea on this?

>>61722261
Go to bed, Mike

>>61722261
>lenovo is aesthetic
lol

>>61722369
In his case Leno\o

>>61722369
Is anything not semen colored like a mac unacceptable to you?

/g/uys im getting a x220 tomorrow. What should i do with it?

>>61722705
install arch + i3wm

>>61722766
what so good about arch?

>>61722535
You like getting blacked?

>>61722796
Wrong connotation.

>>61722782
nothing unless you are a neet.

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Who's using their thinkpad as pic related?

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T420 or T430? I plan to add a 1TB SSD, upgrade the screen, go back to original keyboard if T430, and ideally upgrade the processor

Is it a good idea to buy an used thinkpad and buy extra ram and a ssd on my own?
Or should i get one that already have 8gb and a ssd?

What kind of HDD should I get for my t420?
Does 7200rpm vs 5400rpm matter?
Will I be able to emulate games off of a HDD at 5400rpm?
Play video files?

>>61724524
7200 is far better. If you just want storage w/e, lower rpm is functionally the same.

>>61724524
ssd
dont bother with a hard drive in a laptop in 2017

>>61722196
What OS do you guys use?

>>61724343
Former.
>>61724524
Ssd>7200>5400
Yes and yes.

>>61724544
Aren't 7200 HDD are more prone to fail when moving the laptop?

Drain holes are a meme

Spilled water on my thinkpad today and it ended up pooling up inside the ram slots.

It worked after drying off though. But I wouldn't fall for the water drain hole meme and continue using it next time.

Any idea where i can find an x220t or x230t down under in Aus. They seem to be very rare here and command a high price.

>>61724612
Are they blocked by your cum or some other thing?

>>61724612
was your computer a xx30 series and newer. Because when they updated the keyboard they made the drainage channels in the keyboard itself much worse

Which is more robust, x220 or t420?

>>61724126
If you're going to upgrade the screen, you'll be better off with the t520 over the t420, as except for a rare kit, it does not upgrade to 1080p, but you can find the panel for the 15 inch of that generation.

>>61722782
fresh software and AUR I guess

Well you guys got me with the thinkpad meme. Good one. Bought a refurbished x230 and it's defective and I've wasted the last three days trying to troubleshoot. Into the trash it goes.

>>61724971
I bought a t420 and I haven't had any problems with it in the 2 years I've owned it, but why don't you try to talk to the seller to get a refund?
Ebay's generally pretty good with this kind of thing.

>>61722535
No thinkpad without an IBM logo is aesthetic.

>>61725039
It's a shill, they do this every thread. They're mad that we don't want their stinky chicklet keyboards.

>>61722196
You retards were right about the classic keyboard, shit's comfy af.

>>61724565
lheenucks

>>61724584
Hard drives are designed to survive motion while in operation.

It's when you drop the thing that they can fail, but there's a sensor in your Thinkpad which will lock the drive if it detects sudden acceleration like that.

No, you don't have to worry. I have Thinkpads from the '90s with their original drives still going strong.

>>61725377
>sensor in your Thinkpad which will lock the drive if it detects sudden acceleration like that.
Is that hardware enabled, or you need a specific package?
What about the sudden impact from hitting the table where you put the thinkpad?

I just bought a Lenovo ideapad 310 with 8GB Ram, Intel i5-7200 2.50GHz 64 bit 128SSD. How hard did I fuck up? I'm Australian and bad with computers. I need this for school.

>>61725569
Holy shit it's internet speed is so fucking slow and the it's built like a cheap Chinese toy I hope I can get my fucking money back. I knew non-Thinkpads weren't top shit but this is ass. I should have gotten that fucking HP.

How bad is it to continuously adjust the screen when using T420?
Will this wear out the hinges?

>>61725876
It's not bad at all. You have to do it from time to time but the hinges won't wear too fast. Just get a set of spare hinges to calm your mind. They're easily replacable.

Please redpill me on the 7 row keyboard on T430 meme
>do I plug it in and it just werks or do I have to fiddle with bios?
>do all the extra keys work?
>do I need a XX20 palm rest?

>>61724795
>arch
>free software
That's parabola m8e.

Thoughts on the t61?

>>61726536
good laptop but T60>T61

>thinkpad x60
>new 8-cell battery from ebay, reputable seller
>very minimal linux install, no X11
>minimum brightness
>powertop --auto-tune at boot
>3.5 hours battery life
>gets warm even just sitting there idle
x60 is the perfect physical design to me... i just hate that i can't even spend a full day away from a charger. and it gets warm in a text editor. i haven't replaced the thermal paste on the cpu yet, but i doubt it will make much difference.

I was going to upgrade this with an IPS monitor, but now I'm not so sure. Anything else I can do to improve the battery life and temps?

>>61725417
>What about the sudden impact from hitting the table where you put the thinkpad?
Shouldn't be a problem unless you throw it on the table.

when have normies been awared?

>>61727458
Two years ago for me. Just took me a while to buy a memepad

>>61727322
Perhaps a laptop cooling pad with fans?

>>61727355
>sudden impact from hitting the table
*slams desk*

What laptop to get for gamedev? Business laptops only have integrated graphics, workstations have overpriced quadros, and gayming laptops are made of flimsy plastic and are unrepairable.

>>61727803
Razer Blade

>>61727803
Do you want to do you gamedev stuff on the go? Because if not, you could just use an external GPU and get anything with a CPU good enough.

There are cheap GPU adapters that you can hook over ports like ExpressCard.

>>61727803

Get a desktop anon...

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I found my endgame

>>61728199

what model is that? x230?

>>61728228
yup

>>61722261
Anime ones. Preferably with frilly dresses

>>61728199
Do you use it while on the floor?

https://youtu.be/SRoJGmnay0E

>>61728506
yeah I just kinda lie on my stomach all day. I started doing that maybe 10 years ago when I was 12 and I still do it.

>>61728641
How do you do that?
I get neck pain when I try to do that, and it's uncomfortable to type.
Are you one of those girls that do blowjobs?

>>61728677
I don't know, it's just the way I alwys use my computer. I have never given anyone a blowjob.

I think I'm gonna get an X60 and libreboot the shit out of it just for fun. I'm not a freecuck, I just enjoy Linux, fast boot and customization.

How can I add USB 3.0 to my T420? I was told there are adapters or something? What are the called? I don't know what to even look for. Apparently there are different expressport sizes

>>61729829
Just look for ExpressCard 34 adapters. I can find lots of these on eBay.

>>61729829
there are expresscardUSB 3.0 ports but these have a few problems

the main problem that you're gonna encounter is that they don't provide power so good luck connecting an external 2.5" HDD. if you don't carry a psu at all times you won't be able to connect a hard drive.

>>61722196
anyone got an extra 4gb ram stick for my X220

someone in discord said they would mail me one, but never got back to me its been months

>>61729955
>it's been months
but why? just buy one if you're so desperate

>>61729936
Thanks! I'll look
>>61729951
I have a 128GB USB 3.0 stick that'll do 110MB/s sustained. Being capped at 41MB/s on USB 2.0 is suffering. Will a plain old USB stick, non 2.5" drove pose an issue?

>>61729990
Im poor and just paid for classes for the fall

thoughts on the t440p? is it worth to get one and the upgrade to a 1080p panel and a touchpad with buttons?

>>61730392
Are you too stupid for student aid?

>>61729955
>>61730392
>too poor to spend $20-25 on a 4GB stick of RAM

Skip lunch for a week.

>>61730708
where can i find it this cheap same stick of ram that comes with the X220

Budget: Under 500 USD
Location: USA
Size: Would like it to be at least over 13 in.
Performance: Enough to rival an MBP which was my other choice lol
Other requirements: Nothing rly

finally ordered my T470s, fuck buying any more x220 palmrests

>>61730891
RAM is standard, you can just use any stick as long as it's DDR3 SO-DIMM

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New T470 and X270 versions are most likely going to be released with AMD Raven Ridge.
They're called A475 and A275.
The XX5 Thinkpads were always the AMD versions.

Source: http://productspec.ul.com/canada/document.php?id=NWGQ7.E200693

>>61730891
>where can i find it this cheap same stick of ram that comes with the X220

eBay or Amazon. Just look up the type of RAM it accepts, and do a search.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220
>Up to 8GB PC3-10600 DDR3 memory at 1333MHz
>16GB (2x8GB) PC3-14900 at 1866MHz possible

Just make sure to buy a 4GB stick instead of a 2x2GB set. PC3-10600 DDR3 RAM is going for under $20 on eBay and even on Amazon it's going for $20-30 for known brands.

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Who else /X-seriestablet/ here?

>>61731198
Is that a T430?

>T430
>non-shit keyboard

Wut?

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why is the thinkpad setup so comfy for you /tpg/? also will having a dual boot of windows and a linux distro be good or can windows spy on my linux shit?

>>61731317
The T420 keyboard is more or less compatible with the T430, with only minor, easily resolved issues (key mapping and making it fit properly in the palmrest).

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

>>61727803
Is gtx 940 MX sufficient for your needs? T470p have em.
You should also look for t460p/t450p. All of em have dedicated graphic cards

What's the largest HDD possible, in terms of memory, that I can get for my Thinkpad T420™?

>>61730987
>>61731166
Maybe he's looking to run it in dual channel config?

>>61731785
5tb hdd + 5tb hdd + 1tb msata ssd

>>61731861
Do I need to look for a specific type of HDD though? It seems that it can only handle 7mm ones, and I couldn't find any on eBay, etc.

>>61731861
+ 1TB ExpressCard/32 SSD + 265 GB MicroSD card

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I need a battery for my x60 that's fucking flat and doesn't have these faggy protrusions that keep it from sitting level with the table. The one I ordered (and subsequently returned) used a totally different picture and gave me this instead.

Pic releated

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is there an after market 360 hinge for the x220 tablet

Which thinkpad can smoothly run engineering software? I need one that isn't too pricy that'll get me through years of college.

>buy used T420
>clean it out, replace thermal paste
>turn back on
>idling at 60-70 C with the fan blasting and nothing open but RealTemp
>open Chrome
>temperature spikes to 85 C, gets up to 93 C before I exit out

Is there anything else I can do that would make a difference? This is quite frustrating.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads#Pinout
Is this step really necessary?
Does anyone have any experience with this?

>>61732878
>replace thermal paste
post pics
you probably added too much or did something retarded like spreading it

also clean the fan as well

>>61732878
how was it running before you tried cleaning it?

>>61732878
the heatsink is not mounted correctly, even with poor thermal paste application it shouldn't be that hot

Has anyone recently upgraded an x220 to the IPS screen and can recommend a screen and/or vendor?

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This kills the thinkpad

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>>61733056
>no middle button for the trackpoint
This is not daijoubu.

>>61731786
yeah, im not mixing different types of ram

Is it true that the thinkpads screens are bad?
I've heard that image quality is inferior compared to conventional notebooks.

I want buy a t430 but this made me think twice.

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>2.5GHz i5,
>6GB
>Cheap

But the blurry shit pic putting me off.

I won't be using Windows obviously

>>61733153
you can mix different rams though, that hasn't caused problems since DDR 1

>>61733056
>no middle button
>chiclet keyboard
>less Linux support

>>61733653
>less Linux support
what did he mean by this ?

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Now what?

>>61734062
> <15' screen

1)open the trash.
2)throw it in.

fucking screenlets

>>61734062
Linux time.

>>61734091
>15 inch screen for shitposting and anime

>>61734091
Laptops larger than 13" are positively retarded and useless

>>61734062
install Linux + i3wm and rice the shit out of it

>>61734062
i installed a few gnu/linux distros and since ur a beginner, ubuntu should be fine but if ur feeling adventurous get ready and buckle down because it's time to install gentoo.

these were almost made for gnu/linux because they "just werk"

>>61731198
>still using Windows 95

At least use XP.

>>61734062

Don't listen to >>61734374
Just install Ubuntu and stick with it. Almost everyone comes back to Ubuntu or Mint after venturing into the realms of rolling release and no graphical installer

>>61731383
I'm >>61732891
Do I need to tape the pinouts over?

>>61734916
Yes. On the new keyboards these pins are used to provide power for the keyboard backlight. The relatively high voltage can damage the keyboard. Some people have been using their keyboards without taped pins for years without any problems but for some the keyboard stopped working or the connector cable melted.

I need a laptop strictly for Excel and Youtube that has great battery life

I've narrowed it down to either the x230 or the t430. I think 14in would be ideal, but I've never used a 12.5in screen before so I'm not really sure. The t430 I found is $100 more than the x230.

Do you guys think $100 for 1.5in is worth it? I'm currently typing on a shitty 10.1in tablet and I think it's too fucking small

>>61735128
Resolution is more important than size here. The X230 is limited to 1366x768 which is a major downer if you want to get shit done with Excel.

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>>61735217
>>61735128
See what I mean? This wouldn't be enough space for me to work with comfortably.

>>61735252
You're right, thanks. I'll go with the t430 then

what thinkpad can emulate ps1 games and below without hitting 70C?

>>61735312
most T430's are the same resolution

Is refurb.io reliable? It's ebay account has good feedback but this site: https://bestlegitreviews.com/refurb-io-review/ has customers saying they were scammed and shit. I'm in Canada btw

>>61735375
all their shit looks overpriced

>>61735332
>>61735312
Then make sure it has the 1600x900 screen

is 300$ worth it on a used
Lenovo ThinkPad 4391WRX

specs are as follows:
i5, 2.4 GHz
8Gb DDR3
Nividia Quadro Fx 880M
2xUSB 3.0
15.6 FHD

I can maybe bargain a bit until he drops the price to 250$

>>61735698
>ThinkPad 4391WRX
Jesus, just say it's a W510. Price is fine btw.

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>>61733056
>no middle click
>chiclet
>HP
>shitty key layout

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>>61735850
except
>no middle click
agreed, the should've made the nipple click
>chiclet
so is your chinkpad
>HP
Highly Professional?
>shitty key layout
you mean standard?

>>61735698
no, bad deal

you can get W520's for that price easily, maybe even W530's or the Dell Precision/HP Elitebook Workstation equivalent

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>>61735880
>so is your chinkpad
I have an x200 you stupid nigger.

>you mean standard?
>DURR LETS PUT ALL THE KEYS LIKE DELETE, HOME, PG DN, ETC IN STUPID POSITIONS CUZ TALL KEYBOARDS R UGLY is standard
Newfags need to fucking leave.

Does the t420 palmrest fit in the t430 ok?

>>61733209
Both yes and no. The T430 as well as T420 are particularly bad in that aspect, since on top of screen quality not really being as big of a deal at the time, Lenovo used the cheapest shittiest panels they could get their hands on in them.

For a nicer screen you can either go for a newer model, a 15.6" model (T530 and T520 share display panels with their workstation brothers W530 and W520, and as such shipped with significantly better screens than you'd get on a 14" model - the 1920x1080 ones in particular are almost on the same level as IPS panels, while the 1600x900 one is more what you'd expect from an average decent desktop TN monitor, and 1366x768 still belongs in the trash on these big laptops), or a 12" model which despite its resolution can have an IPS panel with better image quality and colour reproduction. The ordinary 12" models could have shipped with either TN or IPS depending on the original configuration options, but the tablet models are guaranteed to have IPS screens.

In short:
X220/X230 or X220t/X230t: Shit screen or nice screen depending on TN or IPS, though the 1366x768 resolution leaves much to be desired regardless.

T420/T430 or T420s/T430s: Shit screen. No matter what. They are compatible with some nicer screens, and you *can* stick a little PCB in there to make them compatible with some FHD IPS screens, but if you want a nice screen in these you'll be putting it in yourself.

T520/T530: Either shit (1366x768), decent (1600x900), or very good (1920x1080) TN panels.

>>61736158
>I have an X200 you stupid nigger
>posts photo of X220
who's the nigger now?

>>61736158
X200 is Lenovo, therefore "chinkpad"

>>61736420
>the 1366x768 resolution leaves much to be desired regardless.
I kinda get your point but as an X230 owner I'd say I don't need a higher resolution. I'd have to scale everything to the size of 1366x768 anyways and the better sharpness and overall quality I'd get would come at the cost of worse linux compatibility because Linux WMs are still shit when it comes to scaling.

>>61736513
but the argument wasn't about chink or not, it was about chiclet

Anon A: "Chiclet is bad"
Anon B: "But your Chinkpad has chiclet keys"
Anon A: "No it doesn't because it's an X200"

>>61736420
the x230/t is perfectly usable as a media and web device as long as you browse at 80% size. if you get the tablet, you can even flip the screen around and use it as a somewhat bulky but nice ebook reader

>>61736593
>browse at 80% size
what the fuck how can you read anything?

>>61731198
Is it nice anon? I've heard the hinges weren't the best

I would love a nice tablet series x220 or 30

>>61736640
The hinges on the tablets wear fast and if you order one online you can't be sure you get a decent one.

>>61735880
>should've made the nipple click

That would be awkward as fuck.
You'll easily press down accidentally.

>you mean standard?

It's not though, is it?

Look at the arrow keys. - "standard" would be in a triangle.
Look at home/end/page-up/page-down - "standard" would be a square.

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Paid $120 + shipping. Good, bad or average deal for a x220?

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>>61736630
most websites look fine due to anti-aliasing, and 4chan is compact enough to use the other half of the screen for other stuff. of course, you can't expect to do anything too serious unless you hook up another monitor

>put thinkpad to sleep
>place on charger
>put self to sleep
>awake to find thinkpad won't turn on or do literally anything
wow, day 2.

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>https://forum.thinkpads.com//viewtopic.php?t=118070
>tfw 2slow to get a good screen for my t430
fugk.

>>61737382
Looks like isn't that good anyway according to this anon >>61717568

You mother fuckers memed me into buying a laptop because it was such a great deal and I've only ever owned desktops so why not give it a shot?
How the fuck do you one of these things comfortably at home? I'm not putting it on a desk, that's what my desktops for. In bed there is no way to use it for more than 30 minutes with out getting neck/shoulder/back/soul pain.
Yeah, I'm too retarded to use a laptop comfortably.
Help

xsauc in da house!!!!
Gonna be drinking for the nest few hours <3
Join the discord!

https://discord.gg/87PvZ7V

>>61722244
T450 is your best bet, an E6440 might be cheaper.

>>61722331
I would think the X220 would work, maybe the Tablet and its buttons fucks things up. The unit could have a different wifi card so that might change things up.
IIRC the X61 Tablet was able to be hackintoshed, though I never tried, seemed too complicated at the time.

>>61724126
Get the M14x display if you are going to upgrade it.

>>61724676
I'd feel the X220 is.

>>61725700
I'd think you woudl of been fucked either way.
Best give it to an abbo.

>>61730587
I've gotten ChiMei panels for > $40, they are decent IPS display, not like the B140HAN01.3, but that was $80 at the time.

Anywho, keep looking at the market for 2 weeks, setup ebay notifications or save searches for T450 FHD and T440p FHD, the touchpad swap will cost you at least $30 and time.

Good for my T430? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTQ0GOM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_M0rHzbB17R82E

>>61737585
Followup question, is it worth trying to flash coreboot onto it?

>>61737555
Put it on a fucking desk you mong. If you don't like looking down, put it on some books and push it to the back of your desk and connect a keyboard/mouse.

>>61737557
>B140HAN01.3
Is this the best IPS display for a T440p? If not, which one? I'm interested in upgrading this 1600x900 screen.

>>61731198
Thats not WIn 95... What OS & skin are you using?

I stopped using my X61T thanks to its bubbling and 30 minute battery.
The helix just has been having keyboard issues after installing the new bios. :x

>>61732565
What the fuck is pricey?
I fucking hate it when someone asking for a 'good cheap laptop' and throw a fit when the laptop costs more than 120 dollars.

Then they have the audacity to ask if it plays games and how long the battery fucking lasts.

Anyways, W530, M6700, 8470W.

>>61733056
I like it's looks and price, but the keyboard layout I could never get used to and it's missing more features than a ThinkPad.

>>61734062
Learn how to focus your camera

>>61735698
Where are you from? It is a bit high here in murrika, specially since its an i5 model. Actually I take that back, you should get an i7 at least, that model only supports 2 DIMM slots, not 4, so upgrading in the future would be futile.

>>61737244
what POS did you get?

>>61737661
I believe it was one of the best displays in 2014, it was in E7440's, might of been in a T440p. I think there was a few 4K panels out there and Razer mgiht of had a better 14" display but not too sure. Top 5 at least in 2014 in the 14" category

>>61737170
im jelly

>>61737217
This doesn't look any smaller than 100% size on my X230 (Vivaldi, Loonix)

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My 2014 Thinkpad X1 Carbon was running really hot so i wanted to check on the heat sink and thermal paste state. Found it like this.

Is this way too much or should I replace this much?

>>61738008
that's a little much, just make sure you cover the whole die

>>61738024
You mean the metal of the processor right?

>>61738008
Are all intel laptop CPUs from the last couple of gens bare die like that?
I wonder if it would help if you lapped the copper plate to make sure it's perfectly flat

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Is this a good deal?
https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/
8GB RAM + 240GB SSD, and it goes to a good cause I suppose. And included in that price is free extra batteries, power cords, tech support, pre flashed libreboot, etc.

>>61738008
Its a bit much, but its not too much.. not running off the chip.

You good bro. It doesn't matter anyways except for aesthetics.

>>61738058
I thought all laptop processors are bare since the P3.
Haven't met much AMD chips.
AFAIK, laptops can't risk having a heat spreader because it would be too thick.

>>61738102
Me personally, I would just get the base model and upgrade. High chance of them having 2x 2GB modules.
Though the price is also supporting the cause too...
I don't know how complex or time consuming installing LibreBoot

Why do people circlejerk over Thinkpads? They're a generic shitty laptop, and Lenovo is a trash supplier.

>>61738163
Read the fucking pastebin shill faggot.

So, I just bought an x220 and with only firefox open, the cpu temps hover around 55-62C. Is that a normal temp for an x220?

>>61738236
I'm not a shill dipshit, I've used one for at least 2 years. They're a run of the mill business laptop.

You Thinkniggers will never have anything on my Acer C720 Chromebook.
>1.44ghz processor to eliminate distractions like gaming
>2 solid gb of RAM, makes you focus on the task at hand by only allowing you to have say three tabs of an internet browser open at a time
>blazing fast 24gb ssd, ensures that you constantly maintain and clean up unused files
Faggots.

>>61738283
Except they're one of the only laptops on the market that have good build quality and very easily repairable and replaceable parts, and upgradable specs. Try again Shlomo.

>>61738163
The old IBM machines have a legacy thanks to durability, technology and innovation.
before mid 2005, there really was no point in needing a bleeding edge machine. 80's and 90's were totally OK with having a laptop or a computer for a decade, because this was pre-internet heavy times.

Models like the 755, 770, 600, 570, 365 were remembered thanks to their durability, remember this was when it was OK to use the same OS for 7 years.

When IBM transitioned to the T/X/A/R series, they went thinner, still good machines but at a cheaper cost. NASA used IBM in the past for their space missions, and used a few TPs as well. Dell, HP, Toshiba were lacking at this time, they didn't have such a 'robust' business machine. Apple did change some things with the iBook, but it really didn't change until the Core 2 Duo macbook.

Though the A3x and T4xp had god tier panels and build quality, their GPUs were dying left and right, IBM was hemorrhaging money from warranty repairs, some chum fuck sold it to Lenovo. As to why Lenovo, I'm not sure. I guess they were the biggest manufacturer for laptops/PCs in China, but didn't have much precence here.

Eventually Lenovo did design changes and took away features (of which IBM started doing since 1999 as well as build quality).

The market has changed, it is a lot different now.

But tell me anon, I want to know. Whats a reputable laptop line to you? It won't hold up to a ThinkPad, I bet.

>>61738298
I haven't had a business laptop break on me and I've used Macbooks, Dells, HPs and Lenovos. The only brand that's ever stuck out as having esoteric as fuck reasons to break and shit the bed is Lenovo. And their warranty team are a bunch of retards.

>>61738325
>tfw we will never live in the glory age of IBM again
Is there any tech company that's more aesthetic?

>>61738364
Have you ever tried to repair a MacBook?

>>61738392
With my own two hands? No, I'm not a peasant and use manufacturer warranties.

>>61738288
>acer

is there a flashing application for linux to flash the bios for the x220/t420? I already got linux and don't want to redo the installation of windows just to flash the bios? Any anon done this before using non-windows?

>>61738411
Ahh, not a peasant, gotcha. You're a frilly "patrician" who can't be bothered to use his own two hands to repair something, let alone make something himself.

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>at mcdonalds in germany
>eating my burger
>this sandnigger qt3.14 pulls out a thinkpad, think it was a t4xx cause it looked really similar to mine
>opens it up
>it boots to fucking arch linux with anime wallpaper
I KNOW YOURE IN THIS THREAD YOU FICKI FICKI CAMEL JOCKEY

>>61738372
Dunno. I liked Google's Pixel line but they axed it after the second mode.

I kinda like the Razer Blade series, I thought the numberpad w/ the micro LCDs was cool.

>>61738411
Are you one of those people who complains their favorite Chardonnay is not available at a dive bar?
The 2570p shitposter would probably suck your cock and precum quickly.

>>61738288
>them HIGH TEST nazi bttf dubs!

>>61738511
you should have reichnowed her then and then deutschbag.

>no posts within 45 minutes
C'mon you chum fucks.
I guess I need to drin kmore then.

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can i use a ultra dock with a X230

I think all you gotta do is break that tab and you would be good.

>>61722196
thinking about pulling the trigger on a refurbished t420. the only thing that's keeping me is getting a 'defective' one. mostly cause i'm lazy about returns and the chance of it breaking after the return period

>>61736640
Yes it is. It's an X200 tablet, and the hinges are not as strong as the regular laptops, but mine is still fine after all these years.

>>61737707
>Thats not WIn 95... What OS & skin are you using?

Ubuntu MATE with a modified Chicago95 theme.

>>61739493

Don't be afraid... i bought a lot of used thinkpad and they all work flawlessly!

>>61739493
What do you want babe, I got you~

>>61739524
Ah nice.
It's been awhile since I've used a MATE desktop, or at least remembered to. Does LXLE count? :o

>>61739546
I got burnt on a shit nVidia T430s. But its OK.
>mfw it was sold by a competitor of ours
>mfw I don't want to deal with my bosses saying "why are you buying our laptops, are you not fixing them up to their full potential and making a profit from us?!"

I've got a t23 with FreeBSD and I want to dual boot Linux on it. I've debated installing Mint 12 but I'm just not sure. Any suggestions?

>>61733056
>ugly
>gaudy silver insteal of sleek black
>larger bezel than a 10 year old T60
>one battery, max
>no Ultrabay
>chicklet stinky chinkboard
it's a pile of shit is what it is

was it the t40 or t43 had the glorious screen?

>>61739678
SXGA+ and UXGA were available on both 15" models, it just depends if you get the 15" IPS option, can't say much about the 14" models...

My T43p is a blast to look at, however, being a big fan of the A31p, I really didn't compare the two because of CPU architecture and typing experience... Maybe I should? Only if ppl reply if I should :P

I do have nostalgia goggles on my A31p, it was my first ThinkPad I spent a dumb amount of money on to have it working, so far I think I need to replace the mobo :O
Getting graphical issues. idk if baking it will make a difference.

My T530's CPU went to nearly 90 degree while building a package with all cores, even with the fan running at max speed. Is it normal ?

Ok so I guess I'm done w/ the big 4 Ivy Bridge Workstaton laptops... will have to record a video and post a comparison page later. :)

>>61727322
whos the seller? i need a battery for a 15.4" t61.

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There's a T420 for 17000円 ($150) here... Fug... I have to choose between buying it or eating lunch for the next month...

>>61739650
just leave bsd on there if you have it all set up how you like it

what linux software do you need? linux isn't as comfy as bsd

>>61724524
SSD is the best option for a laptop for the simple matter of drop protection, as well as not having to power a spinning platter.

>>61733221
Check the thing out in person. When I got my T420, I made sure to check if the BIOS was locked before handing over anything.

>>61741312
>When I got my T420, I made sure to check if the BIOS was locked before handing over anything
A locked bios isn't a big issue though, an anon managed to reset his supervisor password with a simple paper clip a couple of threads ago.

>>61741364
It's still a headache you don't need if you need a laptop that's ready to go. Some of us use our Thinkpads for work or university, it's not just a hobby device.

>>61741271
>drop protection
since forever hard drives lock when the thinkpad detects sudden acceleration

also hard drives aren't that fragile, I have thinkpads from like 20 years ago with their original hard drives

get an ssd for speed and the lower power consumption, not because hard drives are fragile

I am about to fall for the eGPU meme. Anyone have luck with an x230 i5?

>>61741398
Someone's never done IT at a primary school.
Laptops are better than they used to be, especially with modern drop protection, but you go from 'will probably survive' to 'will survive' with the step up from a good HDD to a decent SSD.

>>61732462
bump

So I've now opened up my T420, cleaned it out and chucked 8 gigs of RAM inside. Now it feels like my laptop and not just a laptop.
What now?

>>61741645
ssd
alienware 1600x900 display
quad core processor

>>61741655
SSD's already covered.
Alienware display isn't much of an improvement over the stock 1600x900 panel mine came with.
Quad core doesn't seem like it'll offer much over the dual core i7, other than heat and power consumption.

what are the chances of an IPS mod being released for my T420?

I am weighing up getting the retro think pad. The T420 is great but this shitty TN panel is a bit of a let down.

>>61741461
i have literally never seen a laptop hard drive fail from a drop

i have seen a computer totally destroyed by a drop, but the drive was fine

somebody's never done IT for the state prison system

>>61741670
>Alienware display
don't fall for that shitty meme anon

>>61741701
Might be a repeated impact thing, then. Number one cause of serious computer issues at the school I mentioned was drive failure. Ended the day they switched to SSDs.

>>61741708
As I said, wasn't planning on it. I've read up on it and other than if I needed to replace the panel it sounds kind of pointless.

Just got an X1 Carbon. Any essential programs I need?

>>61741689
A first batch was released already some time ago but was somewhat buggy iirc >>61737482, a new kit sounds very unlikely. There's one for the s versions though.

I just bought a T440p for that exact same reason.

Literally there is no reason to own anything newer than a T60.

Gaming and doing your big data GPU crap on the go isn't a reason.

Most days I use an X40. If I have heavy lifting I have a computer in my office.

Should I get x61 for ganoo+loonix use if I already have x220

I'm only considering since the laptop looks literally like new and is 50$

How's the battery life on x61?

>>61742009
x61 and x61s are the last real x series thinkpads

the t60 was the last real t series one, lenovo already fucked up the thing by the t61 days

8+ hours if you tweak it good with an extended battery

>>61742038
What did they actually fuck up in the T61? Hell, or later even? The chassis was largely unchanged until the Txx30 or so.

>>61727322
>3.5 hours
should be more like 8-10 for the extended battery, did you get one of the stinky 5+ year old Lenovo ones or a new clone?

Clones can be fine, I have several and they all have Sony or Sanyo cells.

>>61741951
>Literally there is no reason to own anything newer than a T60.

Nice exaggerated blog post. Yes, everyone else only does text editing on their computers. No 1080p video watching or anything, no. You people are so fucking retarded and delusional.

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>>61738511
>The 2570p shitposter would probably suck your cock and precum quickly.
I wouldn't. Unlike you I'm not mentally retarded transgender subhuman who is confused about his gender.

>>61722705
>I bought something while not knowing what to do with it

Why do /tpg/ threads bring in all the dumbest posters on this board?

>>61742241
meant to this human trash xsauc:
>>61738558

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ATTENTION: daily reminder to all >>>/g/tpg posters:
if you encounter someone calling himself "xsauc" or "james" immediately disregard and hide his posts. "James" aka "xsauc" is a mentally ill transgender pedophile who is very unpredictable and dangerous.

Thank you for your cooperation,
~GNU police

>>61742227
T60 can handle 1080p.

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>>61742312
Another picture of this known "thing"

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>>61742323
>>61742312

>>61741718
linux

One of the things (((they))) do when they mentally break you is make you a tranny, so look out.

It happend to Manning, those Matrix brothers, that famous runner who married into that Mexican family, and so on.

>>61742312
>GNU police
>not gnu slash police
one job

>>61742312
Lol. Someone's mad

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>>61742340
what's that, sweetie? You wanna play with your uncle?
Come here, don't be shy!

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>>61742345
Why would I be mad?
People should know who are they talking to, right?

>>61742353
>>61742366
Ew holy shit I just realized I'd been somehow subscribed to this disgusting greasy Filipino cross dresser. What the fuck. Why are all people who make videos on ThinkPads fucking weird in some way?

>>61742341
Cam to post exactly this.

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>>61742388
People brainlessly fascinated with a fucking chink laptop serie are usually mentally unstable, because how else can you explain shilling 24/7 on anonymous anime board for losers?

>>61742152
Anon just saying that coz t61 is first time Lenovo put their badge on the laptop

Some ibm autists are bitches and bemoan unimportant things

>>61742312
what the fuck did you just fucking say about me? I have you know I graduated top of my class from mental sanity academy. I'm trained in Gorilla something something you stupid fucking cunt. I'm most certainly not going to rape and murder children in my tight leather dress.

>>61742590
And if he'd articulated that it'd be fine, but it's not until Lenovo fucked with the keyboard and build quality that they fully transitioned into being chinkpads. For several years after the handover, Thinkpads were still living up to the name.

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>family member/friend tries to use my x200
>they keep touching the surface in front of the trackpoint buttons thinking there's a trackpad

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>>61742737
kek fucking normies.

>>61742340
Ooh, look out. You might have have to compare someone actually living their life how they want vs following what people around you say is okay. Let's make fun of the weird people for being weird! Let me spend all this time typing out posts about someone else that has no influence on my life just because their existence upsets and confuses me.

>>61742773
Don't you think it's weird that espially those people who tried to warn us are now mentally challenged fags who can't seem to talk or think about anything but their own mental disease? It's not a coincidence. They inject them with hormones or something.

>>61742773
There is a place for
>people
like (you). It's >>>/soc/ and >>>/trash/
You should fuck off there immediately and permanently. /g/ is not a board for tripfagging attention whoring nu-males with mental disorders.
Just fuck off. Nobody wants you here.

>>61742798
>>61742773
>>61742340
Why are you talking to yourself?

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>>61742819
u wot nig nig?

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>>61742866
(You)

How much will I get bullied if I install arch using the arch-anywhere tool instead of the autism way?

>>61742773
>You might have have to compare someone actually living their life how they want vs following what people around you say is okay
this is how social norms work, you stupid tranny trash.
Just like you're not accepted as a pedohpile in american society you're not accepted on /g/ for being a mentally retarded nu-male.

>>61742722
That would s what I know to be true, too

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>>61742897
u wot nig nig?

honest to God question, I'm hyped to buy an X260 but the resolution is 1366x768 which leaves me worried. Can anyone using this resolution tell me whether my concerns are valid?

>>61743294
or would a FHD X1 Carbon (3rd) be better? I don't like that the RAM is soldered and the battery is subpar, what are your thoughts?

>>61743294
There's a 1080p option for the X260. The 768p screen is also TN panel only so it's absolute shit. BTW I don't think anyone besides cheap corporate jews ever bought the 768p option on the X260.

I'm satisfied with my X230 (768p IPS) but a higher resolution would make everything sharper. When it comes to screen space I don't think 1080p would give you an advantage because at native res text would be too damn small so you'd have to upscale the UI to match the size of 1366x768.

>>61743347
>>61743338

Woops, just found out there is in fact an IPS 768p screen for the X260. Still, FHD is the only valid option.
Stay away from Carbon. Not even remotely as modular as T or X series.

>>61743347
when you say option I assume you mean in the context of buying it directly from Lenovo. They don't sell those new anymore over here in the Netherlands I'm afraid. All the second hand models I can find have the 768p screen. I'm using it for programming and GIS software

>>61743398
That's unfortunate. There's no excuse for a low res display on such a modern laptop. Try finding one on ebay. The ones you get from dedicated laptop stores are usually former corporate laptops that were originally bought in huge truck loads. These are usually the lowest spec versions because greedy jew bosses don't care if their employees get eye cancer.

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My current set, with my endgame in the middle. (T43 not pictured.)

>>61743445
good advice, I'll stay clear of that shit and see if I can find me one of those X260 fhd unicorns.

>>61743338
The X1, while decent for what it is, really don't have any business being called a ThinkPad.

I can put xubuntu on a t420 right?

I can't tell if it has the nvidia card from the posting but I doubt it does. And it's still doable anyway.

I saw a post by gentoo people having to compile some special wifi driver stuff but that's just gentoo foss stuff right?

>>61743449
1. The T60 is absolutely beautiful. What's the resolution?
2. X301 specs? Why is it your endgame?
3. Where's your X230's palmrest gone?

>>61743510
ThinkPads, especially the xx00-20 range, are some of the best supported computers you can find for Linux.
Ubuntu and its derivatives don't have a hateboner for blobs so your stock wifi card should work fine.

>>61743533

Nice, I figured the fact it was virtually impossible to find information on would mean that no-one ever has any issues so never talks about it but wanted to be sure.

>>61743499
just checked ebay out of mere interest. Here in Germany a FHD X260 is around 700€-800€. Just for your reference. Some people want up to 1000€ depending on CPU, RAM, SSD etc

>>61743509
why specifically? because everything is soldered shut and might not follow the military grade build quality of its brethren?

>>61743543
Don't worry. I've been using Ubuntu on an X220 (which is pretty much identical to the T420 when it comes to hardware) for years. Everything including WiFi and Bluetooth, brightness and volume keys, VGA etc. worked out of the box. Though you might have to set screen gamma to 0.8 or 0.7 using xrandr, at least on the X series TN panel.

and what about the T460s series? The only reason I'm considering that over the 'normal' T460 is the 14 inch screen.

>>61743552
I'm kind of hesitant on spending that amounts via eBay, I would honestly be more inclined to drive over there and inspect it first

>>61743630
Totally valid. Especially if the seller only offers stock photos. If you order, make sure to use PayPal. That way you're gonna get your money back if it's a fraud.

>>61743562
Basically, yes. That's the short version. It's fine as a modern ultrabook or 2-in-1 but not so much as a durable, serviceable and customizable laptop. Which is what most people here like their ThinkPads for being. I mean, we often advise people to buy six year old models. Can you think of many other brands of laptop that would even be in usable condition after that much use?

>>61743610
You mean it has better screen options?
They are obviously both 14".

No rear battery is a big downside IMO.

Have a T460p myself, but unfortunately if you don't need a quadcore I can't really recommend it either because of the poor battery life (it has no internal battery and uses more battery than dual cores).
Very nice QHD screen though.

I also know someone with an L460.
I was surprised by the build quality, not that much below T series at all just a little more flex (which you won't notice unless you purposely try to bend the chassis).
Screen is "only" FHD but still nice.

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>>61743515
1. 1600x1200 but there's several blemishes and I don't like how CCFL backlights look.
2. It's my endgame because it's thinner than my X230 but has a bigger, high resolution screen and longer battery life and MUCH better build quality (you don't know what you're missing, worth it just for how sturdy it feels and the rubberised palm rest and bezel alone.) The screen's also pretty great, not IPS but like 80% of the way there. Viewing angles are competitive with even the latest TN screens. I'm downgrading from the X230 because I no longer need the power and storage since my old desktop is back together in a tiny chassis (pictured.)
3. It's got a crack in it and I'm selling the X230 shortly. I Just fixed a 1-3-3-1 error that was caused by having the antenna cables for the cellular network module flapping around with some tape and there's no point closing it until I get the replacement palm rest.

>>61743129
what a shitty tn screen. Off yourself

>>61744020
This is /tpg/ faggot.

>>61744126
it's 2017
take your dinosaur laptop and fuck off back to *ddit

>>61744158
Again, this is /tpg/

>>61744174
yes, it's /tpg/, so delete your name or return to /soc/

So /tpg/ I have an x220t and I want to add an egpu to my setup because I need compute since I've gotten into machine learning and I also want you passthrough for games

So I need an Nvidia card for CUDA
Anyway, I'm on Linux, I've read a bit about GPU passthrough, I heard you can't use the card outside the VM even when it's shutdown with xorg, but I just need it for compute, so does that restriction still apply? Technically I won't be using it with X

More importantly, what am I looking at hardware wise? I need to pick up an expresscard -> PCIe dongle but I want to avoid needing a seperate PSU.
What's the recommended PCIe adapter now?

>>61726112
Here's a guide about it that should answer all of your questions:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

>>61744308
are you retarded?
How are you going to power up eGPU if not via separate PSU?
expresscard provides about 2W of power. GTX 750Ti drains 75W.

Check EXP GDC v8

Alright goy達, should I get a libreboot t400 or a tricked out t430?

>>61744906
x200 libreboot+parabola

>>61744906
Well it depends on what you plan on using the thing for. What do you plan on using it for?

>>61744906
T430 with coreboot

about to buy this :

>Lenovo Thinkpad T430 Premium Built Business Laptop Computer (Intel Dual Core i5 Up to 3.3 Ghz Processor, 8GB Memory, 320GB HDD, Webcam, DVD, Windows 10 Professional) (Certified Refurbished)

I am a dev web 'student'

or should I buy a chromebook an go full cloud?

>>61745377
T430, also buy ssd

>>61745377
the T430 is a wildly better choice. Maybe swap in the old keyboard and an SSD down the line.

>>61745431
thank (you)
>>61745442
thank (you) too

and I will buy an ssd down the line. I don't really know how easy it is to change parts. I read the sticky but still

>>61745502
it takes 1 screw and it just slides out and you slide new one in

>>61745502
On the old chassis, it's literally one screw to take off the bay cover and four for the size adapter, assuming you need it. There's a quick access panel for it under the left plamrest. Designed to be quick, easy and out of your hair. This is the beauty of older ThinkPads. They're a fucking dream to service.

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>>61745513
>>61745529

w-wow

>>61745545
Do you know how many screws I had to take out to replace both RAM slots on my T420 (basically the same design) earlier? Two. One was even captive to the bottom cover. Took me about 10 minutes to slide the back cover off, change the bottom slot, slide the keyboard out and do the same to the top one. Would've been faster if I'd done it before. These things are a dream to tinker with.

>>61722244
W510 has 1080p option, W500 had 1920x1200 option

>>61722244
>a computer to keep down by my severs to manage them
A 1920x1080 panel seems kind of like overkill for that purpose. You'd have an easier time if you were okay with 1600x900.

>>61742152
i have a t60 and t61. night and day difference in the build quality. the t61 is still better than anything out today, but just does feel chinky.

Do you guys use enhance pointer precision?

>>61745755
Post some examples of the differences please
You have both and thus can give great insights
I need more specific and detailed info so I can move it down and share with other anons

>>61745812
no, never

>>61745624
This. Considering the loss of vertical space, Lenovo's switch to 16:9 was a major downgrade. The lower end screens gained some horizontal space but incresing the overall resolution while sticking with 16:10 would have been the better decision. They should have just made 1440x900 their lowest availalable resolution.

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>have to choose between freefag t400 and powerful t430
Fucking shit, if I can't use libreboot there's fucking proprietary blobs in Coreboot. I don't care if it's less than 10kb I might as well just sell all my info and build a gaymen PC with Windows 10 because who the fuck knows what backdoors are in those blobs

What's the best place to find a replacement keyboard for a T420? I'd rather be buying new old stock if I can and most sites aren't clear on what they're selling.

Is there any feeling that can compare to the pure empowerment of pulling your laptop apart, fixing it or swapping out a component and sticking it back together?

>>61746692
Being a mechanic.

My x220 is getting the wifi card white list error, but here's the thing: my card is on the whitelist. Covering the 20 pin doesn't seem to be working and I'd rather not flash the bios. Does anybody have any non bios flashing suggestions on how to fix it? Google isn't helping.

>>61743970
x301 is so slow tho

>>61746787
it has to be Lenovo branded, it can't just be the same model

>>61746000
For a 100% free computer you pay with performance. That's just how it is. If you can afford it, just buy both. Or get a T430 and an X200 for Libreboot.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/122063967623?_trkparms=pageci%253Aec8fd26e-79fb-11e7-9f24-74dbd1802e29%257Cparentrq%253Ab33f4f4c15d0aa47cd8e389ffffd2e02%257Ciid%253A1

Is this a good deal? I've never ordered from ebay so I don't want to get gypped also it's in Canuck Bucks.

>>61746846
My wifi card is lenovo branded.
The laptop was running fine up until yesterday.

just bought a t460s for 290 dollar is this an alright price?

>>61747455
That's a very low price. There must be something seriously wrong with it.

>>61747506
well I am picking it up monday I'll see

>>61746800
Who cares. It's got 8gb so I can have all the stuff open I want. I just put my desktop back together, my priorities were build quality, thinness, screen quality and battery - the X301 equalls or trumps the X230 on all of these. The keyboard is awesome and I have an effective 9 cell battery in a device which is 2cm thick.

>>61742152
Just put the two side by side, the T60 has much better fit and finish, it's a higher quality machine.

Also what's with the weird places they put ports on the T61? Audio jacks on the front?

Shit like this was already being done to the T61.

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>>61742819
I have literally never seen you get one of these fag, even though you do it just about every day.

I will say this board really needs IDs though.

>>61743294
That resolution's perfectly comfy anon.

>>61745377
>dev web 'student'
Get a Macbook Air or you'll never fit in.

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>>61746000
You know what's in those blobs...

>>61722261
my thinkpad is missing the other half of the V

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>>61748587
At 12" you always have to compromise between screen real estate and text size. On a 12" 1366x768 (120ppi) screen at standard scaling text is, while small, readable, but if you want more screen real estate you'll end up with text too small and blurry to read.
On a higher res screen you get more screen real estate while text is still readable.

I'm completely fine with 1366x768 on my X230 but I only use it for shitposting and anime. I couldn't get shit done comfortably at that resolution/size.

btw I experience a lot of screen tearing on Linux even with Compton enabled. Does anyone know how to get rid of that? I'm using i3wm and MATE

>>61748813
vsync

>>61748937
>even with Compton enabled
Compton includes VSYNC and it's activated

>>61748721

o-okay

i'll think about it

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