/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

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in

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but seriously using the GENERIC ALPS KEYBOARD instead of the wintoddler keyboard, the wintoddler hurts my brain to type on, the keys are all in the wrong places

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>>61715596
i would hope so

>>61715484
Is there any reason Topre seem to love 6u spacebars and use them exclusively over the standard 6.25?

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>>61715650
>Is there any reason
probably not

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Posted in last bread but it was mostly dead. I decided to do a "master chief themed" Halo build
>GH60 Satan PCB w/ breathing LED support $30
>Tai-Hao Green ABS doubleshot set $35
>Orange anodized aluminum plate with stabilizers $23
>Black machined aluminum case $55
>bag of 3mm diffused Amber LEDs $6
>Gateron browns $30
>Orange curly USB cable $10
$183 total this will be my first actual build, since my ultrameme planck is taking literally 5 months to get here from assdrop. Feedback?

>>61715697
Sounds, and will probably look gay

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>>61715697
sounds disgusting

>>61715596
do you have that sexy dust cover for the fk2001?

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>>61715717
>>61715733
Perfect exactly what I was going for.

i have a 1984 Model F/AT for my older computers and a Steelseries G6v2 for my modern Ryzen Maschine
love the F/AT but the missing keys are confusing at times haha

>>61715628
Did you ever try cleaning and lubing those up? I remember a while ago you weren't too impressed with them.

>>61715769
Kek, that made me laugh.
But no, I don't think it will look that terrible. But I guess we'll see.

>>61715767
sadly no, but I am purchasing some large reinforced plastic bags so I can keep the keyboard in good condition
the left keyboard stabilizer is also missing but it's not too bad, still a fine board and was pretty cheap

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>>61716002
i still think they're overrated

>>61716200
You try making them clicky?

>>61715596
White alps I'm assuming?

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>>61716268
do you know how much work that is

>>61716287
yes, as most fk2001s are

>>61716327
Yeah, I did it to my aek.
Feels good.

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A E S T H E T I C

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>>61716545

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Are there any 60% keyboards with cherry blues avaible in UE and in stock? I'm looking for them for almost week and I start to consider doing a hero

>>61716672
Yes there are

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>>61716545
What's with all the open, wasted space at the top and bottom of your desk surface?

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>>61716545
But it's not a hhkb???

>>61715697
that would be epic for the win

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Oh shit! What could it be?

>Budget
$150
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Blue or anything clicky
>Layout
Qwerty
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Yes, only white though

>>61716672
Where do you live? I have a white poker 2 to sell with cherry blue

Italian guy here.

I'm pretty much sold on this keyboard, the only issue is that I'll have to change a bunch of keycaps to have it in italian: I learn these keycaps are pad printed PBT, and I was wondering if I'll be able to find the keycaps I need (or even full sets) of comparable quality for reasonable prices.

>>61718018
>ASSDROP
must be an xtra large dildo for your prolapsed asshole

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>>61718118
Close, would def be more fun

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>>61718094
Forgot picture.

>>61718140
>pink
wasn't that far off.

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Will be going on a white poker with blues when it finally gets here

>>61718094
hmm. you might be able to. But you will have to find a full set or else its going to look fucking retarded with mismatched fonts.
Ill do some digging and see what I can find

>>61715596
Where did you buy this? How much? And where can I buy something like this?

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In the meantime they're gonna go on this black wasd tkl with clears.

>>61718232
>But you will have to find a full set
I guess it's fine as long as it's PBT and doesn't cost me an eye.
>Ill do some digging and see what I can find
Thank you a lot anon.

>>61718293
So far all im finding is a Vortex POK3R ISO set in italian. Problem is that's a 60%.
https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/pok3r-iso-pbt-italian-keycaps_98/

>>61716327
fake industrial?

>>61718385
*also the bottom row is a different size and wont work with the board you are looking at.

Does anyone tried to install a solenoid in a 60% keyboard?
I want to create the loudest keyboard ever.

>>61718255
which one?
both I got off ebay

>>61718275
DUDE YOU SEE THIS FUCKING GAMER

>>61718094
Why do you need the Italian layout? ANSI is better for È and using the right stress

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>>61718542
I got a chuckle from that also.

>>61718385
>>61718404
Thanks for the help, but that doesn't seem to fit. I know Filco makes a 100% keyboard in italian layout, maybe they sell only the keycaps.

>>61718588
Because àèéìòù and because muscular memory.

GMK Carbon when?

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I have no intention to ever buy an HHKB, but god do I really, really love the blue shade of its modifier keys. Is there any keycap set that copies or at least is similar to the HHKB's?

>>61718094
You can get a generic PBT ISO set, then use muscle memory for the miss matched legends, or you can spend $100+ on custom PBT keycaps

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>>61718018
>assdrop

yes, perfect.

>>61718840
Granite, EnjoyPBT sets, most vintage keycap sets

>>61718840
They don't look blue in person, they are light grey

>>61718804
Try ansi and you'll see how comfy it is

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(wake me up inside)
Blacks
Clears
Greens

>>61719597
the top one is an ugly duckling

>>61718840
it gray in person, like 90s PC case gray.
t. HHKB JP owner.

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>>61719614
That's the tame one, the normal version is even uglier

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>>61718390
hmm yeah
i think i spent less than $100

I want a new keyboard even though there is nothing wrong with both of the ones I have.
Any new hotshit out I can throw money at

>>61719835
topre rgb?

>>61719835
New production Model F

>>61719835
model f

>>61718840
>Is there any keycap set that copies or at least is similar to the HHKB's?
No! Buy the real thing and be happy. It's one of the very few endgame boards.

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>>61719880
>>61719877
Wow I don't think I've wanted a board so bad before but yeah I don't have that kind of money.
Any of you who do should get this thing it's insane.
>>61719865
I was looking at the plum boards because I'm a noppoo fan but I already have a choc mini(with HORRIBLE keychatter) that looks identical.

Think I might get the kbd75 kit

>>61720019
Already have an ultra compact f77 on order. I'm so fucking ready for it.

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Which style is better?

>>61720097
The wire style. Always.

>>61715697
desu sounds pretty good
post pics when done

>>61719623
>>61719129
>>61719128
Damn I actually prefer that exact blue.

>>61719959
I'm that guy who kept posting in previosu threads about remapping the Capslock key into a 4th modifier key. I'm enjoying this workflow too much to switch to another layout.

>>61715484
Thats not a Falco keyboard

>>61719107
Your whole setup just screams GERMANY, and then you just had to throw in the damn bunny ears.
Well-played.

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>>61720097
>wire
>delicatly pluck caps from the bottom up
>ring
>cheap
>damages other caps while trying to fit under the desired keycap
>cant fit knuckle in ring to pull cap out

why is ring so shit?
thats the question

>>61720270
>cant fit knuckle in ring to pull cap out
Be less fat.

>>61718619
it reminded me of how the other day while browsing ebay for older keyboards I found one that had all caps GAMER at the end of the ad title
lost my sides

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>>61720351
manlet detected

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>>61720207
heh, Germany is pretty close, but I'm a bit more to the south.

>>61720375
Be less fat buddy. You being fat and overweight doesn't make me a manlet.

>>61720164
>I'm enjoying this workflow too much to switch to another layout.
you get used to HHKB very quickly and then every other kbd seems pointless and waste of space.

are WASD, and more specifically CODE keyboards any good? I wanted to replace my blackwidow 2015 with something that would be a good starter or intro keyboard but I'm not really sure on what I should be aiming for? I was looking to spend around $150 CAD and was going to try and get a 10 keyless one. Any other brands I should look at?

>>61720393
Thomas?

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>>61720505
No that's my boyfriend.

Why chinks haven't copied and start to selling buckling springs?
When will Unicomp be sacrified to the Gateron God?

>>61720744
when matias/ALPS is, and the gateron gods will be good, giving us modernized blue alps, just as they have mad cherry blacks and reds as smooth as they used to be

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>>61720744
But they have

Sup with the Clearjerk? I have browns and clears and they feel identical.

>>61720990
>using tactile cherry switches

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>>61720937
I emailed Matias a while back about making some blue clones in their original design.
This was the reply.

>>61721013
Unlike those lazy Unicomp fuckers, Matias is actually improving their products. About a year ago they updated their tooling to double the life cycle of their switches recently they made some improvements fixing the horrendous key chatter problems, they also have plans to upgrade their keyboards with PBT keycaps so you no longer have to scavenge for old dell and apple keyboards (production starts in a couple months), not to mention the new keyboard designs they are coming up with are ditching that terrible glossy plastic case. Meanwhile Unicomp has made their keyboards worse, then proceeded to do jack shit and just cruise on the almost 40 year legacy of buckling springs. Matias still has some problems like a lack of switch variety, as well as build quality and QC that still isn't on par with gateron or cherry, but they are making improvements. They just take some time.

>>61721117
Now KBP just needs to get on the fucking ball with their QC.

>>61721013
So spam matias with blue skcm requests?
Got it.

>>61721153
Don't worry there is a fix. Go onto their facebook page then download the latest firmware for the matias V60 keyboard. Don't worry if you have a V80 it still works. One of the advantages of ALPS switches is that they can be opened up without desoldering, so open the switch and clean the lube, then re lube them. Normal matias switches don't actually come with lube, but KBP decided it was a good idea anyway. While you're at replace the top housings with the newer designs from matias if your keyboard has the old ones (chances are it does)

>>61720969
I don't want a overbuilt clone of a keyboard of bank equipment. I just want the tech of the buckling spring massified into quality chink keyboards.

>>61721117
Doesn't anyone know some mafioso in Kentucky to force the idiot in charge of Unicomp to sell their tooling and rights to gateron?

help i bought one of those small keyboards and now i cant alt f4

>>61721560
Alt+Fn+F4

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>>61721368
Yeah, ive already gotten the new firmware and have had to clean my g key, and yes, its the old design.
Can you even order just the housings? Will that make them like the new design? I thought they did more improvements than just that.

What's the deal with Romer G switches?
Why does /mkg/ hate them?

>>61721753
They did, but if you're too lazy to desolder and resolder every switch switching the housings is a quick and easy fix. I'd just get the new keyboards coming out next year tho

>>61721117
>the new keyboard designs they are coming up with
Have any pics or info? I cant seem to find anything

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anyone here wanna sell me their NovaTouch?

>>61719664
Image that case but in CNC'd aluminum.

Poland, how much?

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I just knocked my coffee on my Shine 5. At least now I have an excuse to buy a Shine 6.

>>61718140
cool, I got mine today too.

>>61717280
>that yellowing
holy fuck, do you smoke a carton a day or just leave your keyboard in direct sunlight 24/7

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>>61722647
So how do you like them, what are you putting them on?
>/hpg/mkg/spg crossover

>>61722772
Haven't had a chance to try them out yet, when I get home from work, but I'll be putting them on my das 4 pro.

Not the most amazing kb in the world but I like it.

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>>61722772

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>>61722772
>>61722868
forgot my reply
what I meant to say was
>memedrop headphones

my spacebar stabilizer broke. Any recommendations for standard PCB mount stabs? I don't want to have to desolder this board again just for a shitty stab.

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>>61722875
They're just cheaper 650s in a different color way, anon.

>>61722917
that take 6 months to ship and likely have lower manufacture standards

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>>61722927
It's a trade off. Discount for slower shipping. Also they're manufactured/assembled in the same Ireland plant.

>>61722945
also many times they aren't cheaper
I got mine new inbox from a reseller for 250$

>>61722952
That's still $50 more

>>61722966
an audio massdrop that isn't more expensive than ordering directly from amazon?
Color me impressed, half that shit is overpriced when I look, particularly amps for some reason
still I'm not patient enough to wait 6 months

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>>61718094
>I was wondering if I'll be able to find the keycaps I need

No. You won't. I know this is not the answer you're looking for. I'm just saying it like it is, there's no more hope for you getting Italian keycaps than there is for me getting keycaps for a nordic ISO layout.

>>61718144
As for the keyboard you're considering, I'd think about it. It's got the ISO enter key and the small shift key on the left with a key between shift and Z, so it's got that going for it - but del/ins/pgup/pgdn on the top of the number pad and no dedicated home/end? And the non-standard bottom row? I know I couldn't use that thing.

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RGB is overrated.

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>>61715280
Hello guys, my first post here, so let's hope this goes well ;)

Here it is:

It only cost me 8£ brand new. Why is it good you ask? I shall tell you.

Well, first of all: this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today.

It is a rather common keyboard, yes; but because it is a Logitech, somehow it doesn't feel cheap. It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one. I don't know, Logitech has always made me feel comfortable with cheaper products.

The keys are superbly well distributed, and your fingers won't touch the surrounding keys like some other ones I've tried. The keys are also not very soft, nor very hard to press down on. You know, this keyboard makes it just right, so that you can actually take advantage of the impulse that the rebounding keys give you.

This keyboard makes you feel like gravity is actually working WITH you, rather that against you.

Another thing I absolutely love about it, is the space bar. It is just the right size, and not too small or too big like on some other crappy keyboards from other manufacturers. The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design.

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2017, people.

I could be here all day, but in the end, I just wanted to share with you my experience with this marvelous piece of peripheral engineering.


I recommend this keyboard to anyone.

>>61723101
He says, to a community of people that hate RGB.

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>>61722772
>I'm an autistic virgin so in my spare time I carefully plug in my heaphones into my iPod touch while ensuring that the current song is socially acceptable, and then pause it and spend hours placing it gently upon a pink and cyan mechanical keyboard in the desperate hope that my most photogenic positioning possible garners me replies on a honduran underwater basket weaving and spelunking image board
Honestly, kys

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>>61723122
>Logitech

The Logitech K350 is the single worst keyboard that I've used and I've used many keyboards in my time. It's just horrible, just like all the newer Logitech keyboards are.

Why you're cut'n'paste spamming that piece of wall text every single day is beyond me. Anyone who's ever tried a Logitech keyboard made the last 5 years already know it's pure garbage.

>>61723156
An SE, not a Touch and the song was still playing not paused. Also missed the part where I'll post it on instagram for le ebin likes :^)

>>61723170
why is your keyboard covered in hardened jizz? maybe that's why you don't like it

>>61721441
Sick vapes, dude.

>>61715697
I think halo is a pretty cool guy. eh kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything.

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>>61719107
>has a penholder
>Puts a ballpoint pen in it
Oh god why

>>61723223
It's dust that's filled in those small holes on the rubber wrist rest and it got like that by sitting on a shelf unused all on it's own. It's a piece of shit, I regretted buying it after using it for an hour or so and it's basically been collecting dust ever since. I guess that dust goes into those idiotic small holes when I dust it or something.

Anyway, it's a piece of trash - just like all newer Logitech keyboards.

>>61723357
say that to my face mother fucker

>>61723369
Fine, come to Sweden and I will. I'm 6.4" and I bench four plates. I'm totally fine with saying anything to your face. If you want to come then please do. Or I can come to you if you pay for my trip - which is only fair since you're the one wanting me to say that to you face.

>>61723477
Hey Mohammed

>>61723101
How are the caps on the white version of the tada68? I prefer the white colour but haven't seen any information on them like thickness or printing, they seem like OEM profile from the photos.

>Budget
100$ - 180$

>Location (continent at least)
Europe

>Preferred switch type
Brown

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
60% / 80%

>Backlight
No need for LEDs

Searching for a blank keyboard, not too expensive, preferred w/ arrow keys

>>61724188
Still Cherry profile. Still thick PBT.
The legend is smaller compared to the classic one. I guess they wanted to emphasize the whiteness.

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>>61723337
Stop being so pedantic, dude. The penholder's creator is not crying over that.

>>61722756
HHKB pro 1s are ABS not PBT my dude, i will never smoke. Somehow the ABS cases are more sturdy than the Pro 2 PBT cases since they creek less. Weird.

>>61721976
Just traded mine for a hhkb professional 1 sorry my dude, if you get one make sure you add silencing rigs or you will end up hating it

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>>61717280
>I want to pay more money for a keyboard that's worse because it has less keys

>>61724987
>what are layers
If you want to miss out on case mounted topres feel be my guest

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>>61723064
Damn.

I saw wasdkeyboards sell sets of keycaps in every layout. They're UV coated ABS, but there's really no alternative.

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>>61726622
Do the NORDE and UK keycaps most groupbuys offer help you?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/cooler-master-masterkeys-pro-m-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

This has PBT right? I want to recommend it to a friend who told me he wants a faggy corsair keyboard

>>61726808
There's a PBT version, but that's the ABS version. Even the ABS version is better than anything Corsair has to offer though. And that price isn't too terrible; with a set of blank EnjoyPBT keys, it'll still be $110, and it'd be way better than most keyboards at that price.

Here's the caps:
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys?variant=36945662157

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>>61726808

>>61726996 here again, or just get a Ducky One with dye-sub keys and all his problems will be solved.

>>61722917
>vpn
>google music
something is not right here

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>>61726753
No.

As you can see in the picture, the top row in orange has minor differences that don't really make a difference, and the fourth row has a few keys with different symbols that might cause some discomfort, however the keys I've outlined in red are the ones that cause the most problems: in italian they're pretty much needed to write common use words.

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>>61720413
>uses "waste of space" argument
>while defending the keyboard that literally wastes a fuckton of space for absolutely no reason other than brand recognition

>>61727104
lol italians are fucked

guess your only option is shit like wasd/maxkeyboard or paying one of those at-home dyesubbers to turn a blank XDA set into an ISO-IT one for you

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Why are Alps/Matias switcches so CUTE

>>61723101
While we're on the topic, what the fuck is the point of underglow

which are a bigger meme, topre or buckling spring?

>>61727188
Topre. At least buckling spring membranes are reasonably priced.

>>61727104
Quick question, why do you care about legends so much? I think it's pretty clear that you won't be able to find what you want at a reasonable price point.

If you've got muscle memory like you're saying you do, then either ignore the legends or get blanks.

>>61727175
It's to look cool.
Have you never seen pimp my ride?

>>61727260
Most of the time you can't even see them unless you're in a dark room or look carefully

And if you're on your pc in a dark room you're probably watching something and don't want or need glow on your desk

i think it's hilarious how people post their guns along with their ~mechanical~ keyboards

>>61725006
how is case mount better than plate mount?

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My zkb-2r, I have tried a lot of cherry switches never liked them, I am more of a linear person thinking about buying topre.

>>61718094
unicomp sell italian layout buckling spring keyboards

>>61727338
It's just fun, man. Every time I return to my desk and see that glow, it feels me with a tiny sliver of glee, just enough to make me smile a couple centimeters. That's enough for me.

>>61727244
Because I do. Personally I'm not interested that much about the aesthetic of my keyboard, as for instance many in this general are, but I care about legends being correct. Call it customization, call it autism, it is what it is.

>>61727407
I wouldn't buy them though. First and foremost because they ship from the States at criminal rates (60$ just for the shipping), and then my package would hit the italian custom where in the best case scenario I would just have to pay 22% VAT on the total of what I've paid (meaning product plus shipping), plus custom fees, and in the worst case scenario, the package gets bogged down and I'll receive it in the year twothousandandnever. Secondly because their products look really cheaply made.

In the current situation I'm really torn between the Leopold FC980M in UK ISO layout and the Filco Majestouch 2 in IT ISO layout (still have to decide what switch).

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>>61727578
have you used any switch before?

>>61727738
No, today, in the late afternoon I was thinking about going in a PC store and see if they have any mechanical keyboard to try different switches.

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>>61727578
International DSA keycaps might be your best option then.

I bought a motospeed inflictor ck104 and bought my own keycaps and all of a sudden after like 2 months the D key stops working. Fo r example. I could be holding down D and it will stop for like 1 whole second periodically. So I could be typing a message and half of my sentence will have no D's in it. Anyone got any ideas in how to fix? I checked my keys and they were clean and there is a tiny bit of plastic that shouldn't be affecting it all.

>>61727774
you'll probably be best off with blues
don't get browns, they aren't actually tactile

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>>61727812
>DSA keycaps
i think this guy wants to actually use it, not just stare at it and take pictures

>>61727836
this, imo black alps are more tactile than mx browns and they feel much better

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>he (((buys))) prebuilt keyboards

>>61728159
>he buys prebuilt switches

>>61728275
>He buys prebuilt materials

>>61728288
>he buys prebuilt matter

>he doesn't assemble his own atoms in his own particle accelerator

>>61716200
What set do I have to buy to get those orange macOS modifier keys?

>>61728042
>black alps
I won't be ever able to find a ISO-IT keyboard with those switches.

>>61728427
>what is the Dell AT102
also
>yurofag

>>61723101
>>61727175
>>61727260
>>61727338
>>61727473

You (or one of you) just said that RGB is shit yet you're having underglow which is 80% harder to see compared to RGB which is also editable. What sort of mental issue do you suffer from?

>>61723170
>keyboard looks disgustingly bad
>not taken care of and probably suffered 1L of jizz trough it's lifespan
>you're still using it
>HURR DURR G810 AND OTHER KEYBOARDS SUCK BECAUSE THIS MEMBRANE SUCKS

Don't you wanna commit suicide? Probably the intelligent move with such a flawed mentality.

>>61728567
Funny, a retarded fighting with a retarded that's honestly defending Logitech.
Don't you have a subreddit to browse?

>>61728159
>>61728275
>>61728288
>>61728302
>>61728318
How did /r/eddit babies get in here again?

>>61728603
>I don't build my own mechanical keyboard from scratch
>I don't spend countless hours and thousands of dollars just for something I type on
>I like the feel of Romer-G switches
>it hurts your anus
>sad feis
> :c

>>61728483
>buying used keyboards
also
>shitposter

>>61720452
Leopold

>>61728652
chill it was just a wacky meme
I mean, of course you'll never find a (((((new))))) ISO keyboard with those switches because alps as a whole aren't in production anymore
if you really want the black alps just buy a couple Dell AT101's for cheap, salvage the working switches and build an ISO keyboard yourself with them, alternatively if you're lucky you can find them new in box

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>>61728623
the same way you found your way from 9gag to all the way over here

>>61728420
You dye them yourself

>>61728718
Matias makes tactile clones of alps switches.

>>61728894
So I've heard. Not too sure how expensive they are in comparison to cherry switches

>>61728923
They cost about the same. There isn't the same variety as cherry, but they introduce new switches as they become more popular

Is massdrop the only place that has the Mistel Barocco with silent red switches? I've looked everywhere, and most places just stock the usual red, black, brown, blue plus sometimes clear, silver and nature white.

>>61728923
They're typically cheaper than Cherry, and about the same as Gateron. $50 for a box of 200 direct from Matias.

What do alps/matias switches feel like? I've only tried Cherry MX reds, browns, and blues so far.

>>61729222
checked
alps feel pretty damn good, haven't tried matias switches

>>61727377
Are you kidding me? It feels so much fucking better than plate mounted. I sold my realforce a long time ago since it was such a disappointment compared to my hhkbs.

>>61729222
Complicated alps > matias > simplified alps
I'd make an exception for linear matias switches as they feel much better then the older ones.

Alps vs matias, objective comparison please

>>61729648
90% of the time Matias is better simply because its newer and well built. There are a few exceptions like complicated blues and whites, but those keyboards are so old that you'd find other problems like blown resistors and leaky capacitors. You're better of salvaging the switches and using them in a newer keyboard

>>61722772
we get it, you are a boy that likes other boys, nobody cares, not even other boys.

Is it bad enough that out of the four Model M's I chose, I got a Lexmark series?

It still feels crisp as nails, and the drainage holes are worth it.

>>61730496
buy the other 3

>>61730523
One person already took all the other three, and it will be approximately about 4 months before stuff like this shows up again.

>>61730573
>>61730496
you did fine, Lexmark did make cheap but actually decent quality model m's

>>61728652
Just buy a novatouch from akinformatica then

>>61731413
>akinformatica
Kek overpriced gayming shit: the store.

>>61728652
just clean it you fucking retard

>>61731563
https://shop.akinformatica.it/catalogo/cooler-master/cm-storm-novatouch-tkl-hybrid_4719512047200.aspx

89 eur is fair especially since novatouch is rare and overpriced elsewhere. if he must have the italian layout and if he's ok with topre this is actually a good option

>>61732013
I actually never had a mechanical keyboard, and have no idea how the different switches behave under the fingers.

I don't like TKL, because I actually use often the numpad, that's why I wanted the Leopold FC980M. Now I just have to choose between the Filco Majestouch 2 and the already mentioned Leopold: I just have to figure out what I care the most between the italian layout and a more compact keyboard but with non-italian (although still ISO) layout.

In both cases the switches I can choose are Cherry MX Red, Brown, and Blue.

Ann/Anne Pro or Tada68?

>>61732520
tada68

i just got a leopold fc750r and i have to thank you guys. this really is the most premium experience i've had with a board yet and i love everything about it.

>>61732690
Great choice, their PBT Keycaps are the best on the block.

>>61732296
You can always replace the keycaps. GMK and SP make Italian ISO keycaps

>>61732777
they really do feel fantastic compared to other offerings i've tried in the past.

>>61732812
Where can I acquire those?

>>61733176
waiting half a year (if you are lucky) and paying a premium price on retarded groupbuys

>>61733229
I'll take that as a "you can't"

So I was just walking around Wal-Mart passing the time and I happened across the clearance section with 2 Logitech LG710+ Blue keyboards for $50 each. I looked them up and saw they were usually $100 each so I bought them. Never used it before so I was wondering
Was this a good deal? Is the keyboard good quality?

>>61733229
>>61733258
Just go on pimp my keyboard and buy one of their international sets that regualry restock. You can also get a keyboard with GMK keycaps from unikey

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>>61733635
he's been insistent on an italian layout

idk why
it's all disgusting and italian and shit

>>61733683
because people are afraid to try different things

>>61733683
Let the fucking pasta nigger being what he wants.
Perhaps someday he will see the shine of glorious ANSI.

>>61732296
http://caps-unlocked.com/varmilo-va109m/
What about this? Comes in ISO-IT and has PBT keycaps.

>Budget
$200

>Location (continent at least)
Arizona

>Preferred switch type
Brown

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
75%

>Backlight
RGB for that Gaming Powerr

>>61733792
>>61733800
>I want a spoon, where can I buy one?
>There are no spoons, use a fork and knife
>I don't want to buy fork and knife, because I need a spoon to eat my soup
>That's because you're afraid of trying different things; forks and knives are better anyway: we use them to eat steak and they're super comfy

>>61734196
>All those switches to choose from
This makes things more difficult lol. Beside, the Filco Majestouch 2 comes in ISO-IT too, although with way less customizability: my actual concern is having to choose between the 96 keys Leopold in UK-ISO and a 100% in IT-ISO.

>>61734593
KBD75

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post comfy

Are non-clicky model Ms worthless?

>>61734695
the filco has shit keycaps compared to leopold and varmilo

Is topre the quietest respectable switch there is?

>>61734593
YMD75

>>61733683
that bottom row is pretty sweet (at least the physical layout, disregarding the legends/mappings), i wish more mech kb designer fags would see the value in having more thumb keys in the spacebar area

>>61734196
>>61734795
What about overall build quality?

Also by navigating a bit I've found out they sell just the caps in ISO-IT. They would end up costing me 65€ with shipping, but after all that's what I was looking for. So now the choice is between a 135€+65€ 96 keys Leopold+Varmilo caps, or a 150€ 100% Varmilo.

Anyway thank you so much anon for your help.

after around 40k in mkb purchases I've finally settled on gateron reds as the linear masterrace switch. AMA

>>61734832
probably not. i'd guess linears with o-rings/never bottoming out or matias quiet switches would be quieter

>>61734949
have you tried any of the retooled linears from cherry and if so how do they feel compared to gat linears?

>>61727813
Bump

>>61734990
yes I have and they feel more consistent than old cherries but not like liquid smooth like gaterons. I'd say that retooled linears are about gateron-level, up to preference, but not old ones. Also, I think gaterons take o-rings better if you're into that

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>>61734949
>after around 40k in mkb purchases

How do i make this bad boy work with ps/2
Are there adapters? Its that proprietary mac connector

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>>61735124
I'm retarded

>>61715596
>Dat Clickity CLack

MUH FINGURS

>>61735124
>>61735143
That uses ADB not PS/2 cause apple have to have proprietary ports. You need a $40 adapter that isn't made anymore. Or you can build one yourself from the many guides on deskthority and geekhack

>>61734935
overall build quality is pretty decent for all of them. filco being the "classic" that everyone loves.

one thing that you do have to note is that the leopold has a non-standard bottom row and a small right shift. I don't think these keys are covered in varmilo's keysets.

>>61734990
Forgive my uninformed state, but is there such a thing a o rings on matias or topre switches?

What is the best switch for gaming: Silver, Pink, or the Laser?

>>61735265
I might just retrobrite it to make it look nice and stick it on a shelf then
Its cool, but I paid a dollar for it, not worth the time or effort unless I get a system for it

>>61735386
i'm not sure about matias quiets with o-rings but i've heard a lot about people installing dental bands, flattened landing pads, or hyperspheres in topres making them even more quiet than they already are

>>61735321
>I don't think these keys are covered in varmilo's keysets.
I see thanks. I've also noticed that Varmilo ships from China, which is VERY bad news for me. I'm leaning more and more towards Filco.

Now talking about switches: the selection is between
>black
>blue
>brown
>red

What's best for someone that has never used a mkb?

>>61735560
there is no "best" switch in any sense. it's all personal preference. are you able to buy any switch testers?

>>61735430
green. man up.

>>61735430
any linear or light tactiles you like, or >>61735829
if you're a man

>>61734737
I love the diamond meta keys. More sets should have OS-neutral meta keys that aren't some meme novelty like the Cherry logo.

>>61735265
At the time ADB was more of a standard than PS2 was. S video uses the same connector

>>61735807

I bought Set C of this one.

https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/002kbat

Is there a particular tester I should get?

>>61735265
>You need a $40 adapter that isn't made anymore
Why hasn't there been any new ones for this?

>>61735970
>At the time ADB was more of a standard than PS2 was
No, PS/2 was used on all IBM compatibles, and some non-IBM compatible computers, like Silicon Graphics hardware, and some Mac clones.

>>61735976
nope, it looks fine

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>>61716884
>literally over $10,000 worth of firearms on the table
>but the centerpiece of the photo is your fucking taiwanese keyboard with chink aftermarket keycaps that look like you don't even type on them
>probably no more than $175 for the keyboard, two sets of keycaps and shipping

Bravo. You have finally won the autism award.

>>61736004
uh doesn't hasu have them in stock?

>>61735386
Matias quiet click has internal dampening for down and upstrokes, so it shouldn't need anything else. KBDFans sells rings similar to hyperspheres to silence topre.

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>>61735807
It would cost me roughly 10~15€. Also, I think pressing the button with one finger isn't really telling of the typing experience in various situations. Today I've found a store in my town that had an Asus gaming mechanical keyboard exposed, but it was closed so I couldn't try it.

For years now I've used a OEM HP keyboard -pic related- where, as you press the key, force immediately builds up with very little travel, until it "breaks" and the counteracting force drops, and since you can't really stop your finger, you more or less bottom it out (I actually want to change keyboard because sometimes it doesn't register the keypress unless I press really hard while bottoming the key). It surely isn't a mechanical keyboard, but the profile is like the one of a Cherry MX Brown

>>61736230
>but the profile is like the one of a Cherry MX Brown
I mean qualitatively: ideally, if I had to describe the sensation I'd draw a similar graph.

>>61736230
>I think pressing the button with one finger isn't really telling of the typing experience
you're right but it is better than going in blind. perhaps going to that store on an open day would be more helpful. i personally think blues feel the best out of the four choices you have. they have the most tactility, but the sound is really annoying. reds are nice but easy to mis-type on, though you'll get used to it. i would describe them as soft but obviously not squishy like a rubber dome. in the end, if you really can't decide, just get browns. they don't have much going for them and I personally dislike them but it's the "safe" choice. there's a lot of hate for browns from people here but I've seen a lot of people happy with them for their first mechanical keyboard. any one of the four choices will certainly be better than your current keyboard.

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How long does shit take to ship off of AliExpress using the epacket shipping service? I got emails with tracking numbers and my stuff has shipped but I don't know if their estimate with 20 days of variability means anything

>>61736421
epacket is pretty quick but expect it to take upwards of several weeks

>>61736459
>Several weeks
Like are we talking over a month territory or like 3 weeks? Asking cause I'm going out of town in the beginning of September and I don't want to end up with stolen packages

>>61736611
Have the post office hold your mail. You can do it online.

>>61736611
maybe around 2 weeks, it should be ok

>>61720393
>2 vertical monitors

Mein neger

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Shit. Got myself some nice key caps for once in my life. But this bleed through is savage.

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>>61715280
hihi i used to be autist aboutkeyboardsa couple yyears ago but i dont know what keyboards are good anymore and just ruined my old mech keyboard by spilling water allover it

>Budget less then 100 please
>Location (continent at least) usa
>Preferred switch type brown
>Layout qwerty
>Form factor 60%
>Backlight yea
also i want a white keyboard

>>61737498
Tada68 is everything you want except it's beige

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>>61737454
If you had thicc keycaps it wouldn't be a problem

>>61737498
>>61737513
There is an all white tada68
Ducky, Leopold, Filco, and Royal Kludge all make white keyboards too

>>61737528
Doesn't the white tada cost more?

>>61737559
no

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>>61715280
Did I fuck up?

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>>61737792
yeah

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What would you guys say the absolute fastest switches are? Like 4 key presses per second fast. Keyboard recommendations are appreciated, the game that I'm getting it for is a rhythm game called osu!. I think the switches just have to be really light and smooth but also springy enough at the same time. No tactile bump required. Budget is like 150 USD I guess or like 200 CDN

Sup guys. Just got my Varmillo VB7MT in today and I can't get it to pair with my computer. Anyone have this board? I haven't found anyone else with this problem.. the board works fine on my laptop with built in connectivity but not on my pc with a plugable bluetooth dongle.

>>61727377
plate mount is a bigger meme then /mkg/ in general. All it adds is rigidity and a louder pinging clack when bottoming out.

>>61727377
They make more hollow plasticky noises.
This isn't a joke.

>>61737792
Memes aside it's a great entry level keeb. I love mine

>>61738018
any linear switch

>>61738018
watching a count down timer while spamming a key, i can hit my MX Clears 5-6 times per second easily, so get whatever you want if that's all you care about

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Tfw enjoying buttery smooth optimum girth.
What are y'all using, /mkg/?

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>>61739256

>>61739270
blue board, dude
cover that shit up s m h

/mkg/ assist me with finding some OEM or Cherry profile keycap sets for my Noppoo CHOC mini PBT only please. I have literally been searching for over a week and have found only one decent set with DSA caps in only one color..

The set would have to include 5.5x spacebar and 1.5x R1 ctrl and alt keys.

>>61739504
go onto aliexpress and look for sets there, you'll find a couple

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>>61739256
>Reds
>South mounted LED

>>61739556
Yeah that's what I've been searching through. Except the majority of the sets don't include a 5.5x spacebar and/or 1.5x keys for R1 ctrl and alt.

What's wrong with cheap switches? Like do they break really easily? Or do they not click properly etc etc.
I wanna get the motospeed ck104

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>>61739648
The image is flipped for text's sake, they're top mounted.

>>61715596
>bigass enter, normal sized backspace

muh diiiikkkkkk

>>61737524
Ugly Christmas keyboard

>>61739504
+10 Internets to any anon that can help me with acquiring these pieces

>>61739213
shit I calculated it wrong, I think it's more like double that. And you can't use your entire arm to press because you have to alternate between two keys so 16+ kps between two keys pretty much. I have cherry MX reds right now but the resistance seems a bit too high or something idk I'll figure it out

The wait for chink shit always kills me

>>61739661
You have to know what cheap switch get.
For instance, outemus are inconsistent and sometimes a key requires less or more force to be actuated.
Gaterons, for example, are cheap compared to cherry, but they are better, so isn't the problem with cheapness per se.
A CK104 has outemus and has awful ABS keycaps.

>>61740509
Waiting for my weeb keys myself.

What are the cons of getting an Ann/Anne Pro?
What are the cons of getting a Tada68?

>>61737454
https://geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=66567.0

>>61740667
60%
none

>>61738018
For smooth you'll want linear (or light tactile bump), and with a low actuation force since you'll be pressing it like thousands of times an hour if you're play osu. At < 80g of force, there's really no difference in the speed you could press, just the amount of relative comfort. If anything the delay on the keyboard would be more important. Personally, by the way, I would want clicky since I'd prefer auditory feedback when playing a rhythm game.

Also note that ultra-lightweight switches are really bad for typing if you're a heavy-handed typist like me, since you could literally just rest your palm taking a drink and see a string of characters fucking up your flow.

Here's a great resource going over the basics of key switches, and the next video in the playlist is a good overview of the major manufacturers of switches: https://youtu.be/bG0DwHniqu8?list=PL285ATFsHGY8XWiXGt8mtc4gySLYfPkFS

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>>61715280

>>61741310
>>61741310
>>61741310

>>61741297
^^
,|,
UU

>>61737559
Pretty sure I'm the only one here with the white TADA68.
Same price from Taobao.

>>61740667
>What are the cons of getting an Ann/Anne Pro?
No programming.
Bluetooth connection can be dodgy.
Plastic case.
From people I know: Supposedly worse keycaps than Poker Pro or 3?
>What are the cons of getting a Tada68?
1.0u modifiers on the bottom right.
1.75u right Shift.
Plastic case (but possible to upgrade to alu)