/hpg/ - Headphone General

*snap*

>>61710272
reposting since old thread went down:
headphone cable wont stay straight and keeps getting tangled. how do i fix this? 3m cable was a mistake

>>61710378
Keep it short with velcro

At what price do the HF5/HF3 become a better value than the MK5?

3DS guy from previous thread. I need a micro sized headphone amp mainly used for portable gaming. I'm talking FiiO A1 size. I've heard mixed things about the A1 so does anyone have any recommendations. The micro size is the most important factor.

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>>61710272
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61710745
Judging from pics, you might want to look into the Schiit Fulla 2.

>The maker of this thread is a literal shillheiser faggot

I'm dying. This is fucking great.

>>61710861
>Schiit
Is this a mad TV parody of the FiiO?

>>61710272
>WAAAAHHHH DONT TALK TO PLEBSPOTTERS HE DOESNT LIKE THE HD600S WAAAAHHHH

this is why /hpg/ is cancer.

>>61710884
Just a funky named company.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/
>>61710891
Lol @ posting without the trip.

>>61710906
>I-It's him! I swear it's him! He's just posting without it!

It's hilarious that I've reduced the shillheisers to paranoid schizoids.

>when the creator of this thread is a shillheiser sperglord and hates the tripfag on the sole basis that he doesn't like the veil600s

>>61710272
>Don't talk to plebspotters

He's provided better tech support and more suggestions than most of the Sennheiser shitposters here.

are senn hd201's still worth it?

>the tripfag has angered the Sennheiser overlords for his heretic views

Any opinions on the Oppo PM-3 for a fairly neutral closed travel headphones?

Heh, tripfag's shitposting at full capacity, every time the enforced delay between posts expires.

>D-DONT TALK TO MY PERSONAL BOOGEYMAN HE DOESNT LIKE MY VEILED $300 SHITCANS

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Friendly reminder that the hd600s are overpriced, veiled, lumpy mids memecans exclusively recommended by weebs and shitposters who don't listen to music, and much better headphones can be had at cheaper prices.

>>61710745
buy the FiiO from Amazon and return it if it doesn't satisfies you.

Pretty sure anything is a major improvement over the 3DS's weak ass amp.

>>61711187
I did just that. I'm excited to finally fucking hear 3DS music for once.

Pay no mind to the anti-Sennheiser shills they don't even own headphones

>>61711199
Didn't a Sennheiser shill confirm last thread he didn't even own a pair of hd600s that he praised for about 5 posts?

This is a reminder that DiPolarDisorder is a shitposting troll who intentionally spreads factually incorrect misinformation such as "hrtf graphs have an inverse relationship with how a headphone should measure," refuses to back up his claims with credible evidence because he cannot and tells anyone who proves him wrong they "can't read." His HRTF claim has been thoroughly debunked by:
https://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2010/05/headphone-equalization.html
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-frequency-response-part-one
http://hauptmikrofon.de/theile/1986-3_Standardization-of-studio-headphones_JAES-1986.pdf
http://vbn.aau.dk/files/227876689/2008_Hammersh_i_and_M_ller_AAA.pdf
Do not take anything he says seriously, especially headphone recommendations.
>in b4 he falsely claims he has debunked these links while refusing to link to said "debunking"

Is an AMP necessary for HD6xx? I really don't want any more cables to tangle up at my desk.

>>61711295
No

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>I gushed in my HE400S review, in some ways I preferred it over the HD 600. Comparing the HE4XX to the HD 600 again today I've got to say I still think it's better in some ways. The HD 600 is smoother and more liquid sounding, but it's got that veil, and the long hump in the bass/lower-mids response does give it a thick coloration compared to the HE4XX. Treble is a bit more strident in the HE4XX, and the presence area is a little more withdrawn, but bass extension and midrange neutrality are better than the HD 600. Bottom line: both are very good cans. But that price difference! People should be yelling, "Take my money!"

https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/massdrop-x-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones

>>61711280
>>61710272
ITS THE BOOGEYMAN RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!! HE DOESNT LIKE OUR FAVORITE HEADPHONE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61711323
>but it's got that veil
Tyll is a veil

>>61711323
Another "don't listen to him/them" source for the shillheiser thought police to add to the list. Alongside rtings that put the hifiman headphones above the meme600s

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>>61711323
>Hifiman build quality and customer service

>>61711312
Disregard this, I should've dug into the pastebin a bit deeper. I just found what I'm looking for actually, (ATH-IM02s). Thanks anyway, and sorry for the premature post.

>>61711369
See
>>61711176

>>61711353
Hey what headphones do you own bro?

>>61711396
Heir audio 4ais
Etymotic er-4xr
Status audio cb-1
Phillips shp9500s
I owned he-400s for about a year, ended up trading them to a friend for the heir audio IEMs because I wanted something portable

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>>61711395
HD600 will never snap if you do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U the headphones are completely modular with every single part replaceable and Sennheiser's customer service is excellent. You are shit out of luck if a Hifiman breaks, which it will, most likely at the fragile hinge.

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Discuss.

>>61711439
Reminder that DiPolarDisorder, on top of being a lying shitposter, shills headphones he doesn't even own.

>>61710272

Template:

>$50-$75
>US
>Motherboard (Or can buy a preamp if needed)
>Full Headphones
>Closed
>Med-High
>Steelseries Siberia, other crap 'gaming' headsets.

>>61711439
So the only over ears you own is poorfag shit?

>>61711465
>I own/have owned almost every headphone I recommend
>The exception are the ath stuff which I have heard or friends have owned.

Whatever fits your narrative.

>>61711456
>Grado References belong on the short list of greatest headphones in the world
Into the trash it goes.

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>>61711486
>Poorfag shit
You mean good value? Why am I going to spend big $$$$ for memecans when I can just listen to what actual imaging sounds like on much nicer loudspeakers?

>>61711491
HE-400S =/= HE400i and HE4xx, which you shill constantly.
>>61711439
Pic and timestamp of headphone collection.

>>61711518
lol your speakers look like a cheap table fans

>>61711524
Sure, when I'm home.

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>he shills shoddily built chinkshit he doesn't even own
laughinganimegirl.gif

>>61711456
>K701s "world's greatest headphones"
Lol wut?

>>61711537
Dat hurt my Fifi's :^(

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https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/5emka1/so_hifiman_doesnt_replace_broken_parts_anymore/
>Been emailing HiFiMAN about the prospect of replacing a broken headband on my out of warranty HE-400's - willing to pay of course. According to customer support they don't sell the headbands separately anymore, even for a replacement part?
>and this is why you buy from a reputable company like sennheiser that still offer replacement parts of 20 year old headphones instead of a Chinese company with horrible QC issues and customer support.
Really activates the almonds.

Came in here trying to figure out what kind of over ears to buy below $120 but all i got was autism

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>>61710600
Pls respond.

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>>61711604
TSF a cute. A cute!

>>61711595
Ath-m40x
Status audio cb-1
Sony mdr-v6

>>61711594
>Plebbit source

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>>61711617
She's the series' one redeeming quality.

>>61711643
Wasn't he talking about iems worn over-ear?

>>61711604
At no price. MK5 are significantly sonically superior and are a great value.

>>61711657
/r/headphones has a lot less shitposting than /hpg/ and I don't think anyone can argue this point. /hpg/ is likely the worst source of headphone discussion/information on the internet.

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HD600s BTFO and forever REKT

>I gushed in my HE400S review, in some ways I preferred it over the HD 600. Comparing the HE4XX to the HD 600 again today I've got to say I still think it's better in some ways. The HD 600 is smoother and more liquid sounding, but it's got that veil, and the long hump in the bass/lower-mids response does give it a thick coloration compared to the HE4XX. Treble is a bit more strident in the HE4XX, and the presence area is a little more withdrawn, but bass extension and midrange neutrality are better than the HD 600. Bottom line: both are very good cans. But that price difference! People should be yelling, "Take my money!"

https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/massdrop-x-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones#64FStg3iyg2mvOiv.99

>>61711682
>every part replaceable with excellent Sennheiser customer service vs. shitty chinkshit build and shittier chinkshit customer service
>BTFO
Nah.

>>61711682
Old people would probably prefer the HE400i or HE4XX because it has treble spikes to make up for their deafness in that range.

>>61711693
>every single part needs to be replaceable on snaphiesers because of the shitty material quality they use
Lmao

I'm thinking of getting me some Apple AirPods. They look very comfortable. I like that I can just leave one in at a time and not have a bunch of shit hanging down.

Is this a bad idea? Are there any other BT headphones that are as modular with better sound quality?

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>the shitty retard tripfag actually shills this fragile chinkshit even though he doesn't even own it

>>61711701
I legitimately wonder if Tyll's hearing is going. Four years ago he said the HD600 isn't veiled.

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>plebs shill this shitty chinkshit because of cognitive dissonance
Lmao

>>61710600
Would a HF5/HF3 with impedance adapter be a lot better than MK5? I think so.

>>61711777
>made in Ireland
>chinkshit

>>61711439
>Etymotic er-4xr
Are they worth it?

>>61711796
>drunken potatonigger shit using materials sourced from chinkland
No wonder they snap all the time lmao

>>61711802
Depends on intended use. The lack of earhook makes them unsuitable for active use (the reason I own the heir audio 4ais) and they absolutely need aftermarket eartips, but they sound crystal clear and the bass bump helps with certain genres.

>>61711796
>>61711820
>Materials made in Ireland. Then shipped to China for final assembly

>>61711854
Just need great noise isolation for working and travelling really, ER-4S/XR will probably be my end game IEMs

>>61711874
Oh absolutely then.

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61711802
ER-4SR are better and more accurate. ER-4XR defeats the point of Etymotic, which is accuracy. See: http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/etymotic-er4xr-and-er4sr-measurement.2689/

>>61711790
I don't understand.

>>61711872
source for your claim?

>>61711176
>taking any advice from a tripfag
Yeah I'll pass

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What's the 2nd most plebeian headphones after the HD600?

>>61711989
your mom

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>>61710847
How much of a pleb am I?

>>61711854
What aftermarket tips do you use?

>>61712029
Are you black?

>>61711953
HF5 + Impedance adapter = ER4S
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272428465695

>>61711989
HD580

>>61712029
I have no complaints about waifu.

But the headphones are a bit melanin-enriched.

>>61712043
Comply. The memory foam is comfy and it seals better imho

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>>61711518
You should set them on fire, like you did with your cornwalls, wat.

>>61712283
>Implying I'm the same plebspotter
>Implying I'm going to light $3500 speakers gifted to me from my job on fire

I'm sorry the hd600s suck but you should really stop projecting.

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>>61712349
Yeah bro the HD600s suck, beats are so much better.

How do I know if I need a DAC?

>>61712387
By knowing whether your source is analog or digital.

>>61712371
Please post a source to where I've ever recommended beats by Dr pepper

>>61712458
He just did.

>>61712446
I mean External dac

How do I know if I need an EXTERNAL dac

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get on my level

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>>61712458
Just search the archive.

>>61712045
>>61712108
I-I'm not, I bought these thinking that I'd have a correct balance, nothing too bassy, what should I aim for next? Looking for something like the Fidelio X2 but more... white. Also can I improve the Fiio without breaking my bank account?

>>61712559
HD600, obviously.

>>61712559
>can I improve the fiio
if it works and is loud enough, you pretty much can't, not in any meaningful or audible manner

>>61712559
hd600

>>61712559
DT 880

>>61712582
>>61712830
Plebs detected

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>>61712863
>DT880
>correct balance

Do the HD600 require an amp?

>>61713042
And will the Fulla 2 power them?

>>61713042
Yes.
>>61713053
Fulla 2 will probably be loud enough for your liking. My general recommendation to people buying an HD600 is to get a Fulla 2 and see if it's loud enough to their liking. If it's not, get a Magni 2 and use the Fulla 2 as just a DAC.

>>61713065
>Yes.
Wrong, onboard audio is enough.

>>61713094
Most onboard audio will not be enough to provide HD600 adequate volume with sources mastered at a very low level. Loud enough with modern brickwall compressed music =/= loud enough.

>>61713125
>modern brickwall compressed music
Not the Anon you are talking too, but i'm just going to add that more and more artists and engineers these days are preffering less compressing in the master in favor of more dynamic albums, so yeah, being able to properly drive your headphone should be important.

Is there any point in buying 4xx when I have 650s and a dt990?

>>61713260
If you're a masochist who desires shitty chinkshit build quality and even worse customer service, sure.

>>61713260
I'd say wanting a planar in your collection and better extension on the bass, other than that you're fine, i have the DT880 and kindda want the 4xx because it's hard to come by planar magnetic stuff where i live so testing stuff without buying is not an option.

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>>61710272
How do you guys suspect the Status audio CB1 will compare to my Takstar Pro 80(hyperx cloud) that I use for my closed back headphones?
I'm by no means an expert but these graphs look pretty similar.
I feel like they're going to sound really similar but I'm still thinking of trying them out.

>>61712540
>>61712477
So why wouldn't I use this trip if it was me?

Protip: because it's not me you stupid fucks.

>>61710272
looking for a new pair of on ears. R8 my current choice pls.
>Fostex t50rp
>Dakani earpads
>Xduoo XD-05
For T50Rp is it better to buy and mkIII, or the Mayflower Mods that sell on ebay

>>61713427
Best t50rp mods are from mrspeakers. Mayflower mods have some notorious qc issues.

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So, I'm looking at getting a either a Dragonfly Black or a Dragonfly Red.
Is the Red worth the extra $100?
The only reviews I could find comparing the red and the black were audiophiles who believed in $5,000 directional ethernet cables.
I mean, sure the Red sound better, but is it that much better?

>>61713502
Do mayflowers have any advantage over the mk3?
Also my portable dac/amp. Is it decent?

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>>61713519
What are you driving with it?
Sounds great with my IEMs and hyperx cloud but like absolute shit with my 250ohm dt990

>>61713519
>falling for Audioquest meme

get SMSL Sanskrit, or DIY Sabre DAC, or even Shiit DAC

>>61713595
>great with IEMs and Cloud
>Shit with 250 Ohm DT990
They're not getting power senpai.

>>61713643
thats why i asked him what he wanted to drive with them
note the 990s are plugged into the x6

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My headphones are see through, your argument is invalid

>>61713595
Nothing too fancy at the moment, just a pair of Skullcandy Crushers and my car's stereo.

>>61713621
I get that audioquest makes a lot of bullshit, like the jitterbug and insanely overpriced cables, but the dragonfly is rated pretty highly and not too expensive.
The dragonfly is also small, which I like since I'll be on the go with it.

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>>61713721
>skullcandy crushers
christ

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>>61710272
Kek. This is sad, anon. You made the same thread for TrustyFucks not too long ago.

>>61713747
I know, I know.
I mostly listen to glitch hop, chiptune and other electronic genres, which the crushers work great for.
I'll probably wind up buying a nicer set of headphones later, like the HD650.

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>>61710906
>OP is a buttmad Sennheiser shill
Kek.

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>>61711249
Yup
>>61703579
Pic related

>>61713807
poor choice for your taste. look into dt990, dt770(custom one studio), ultrasone

>>61713042
They're low sensitivity, which means the max volume will be low without an amp. I find it to be enough, but YMMV.

>>61710272
>>61711280
>>61711465
That tripfag really angered the Sennheiser shills. This is sad...

>>61713807
I listen to electronic/chiptune/mods/videogameost/metal/animeost/jpop, very happy with HD600.
Many people will assume you want melanin-enhanced bass just because of music genres.

>>61712942
At least anon gets bass, ya know anon?

>>61713791
>>61713858
>this level of samefag and attention whoring from the tripfag

Just use the fucking trip for everything so I can filter your retarded posts.

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>>61713885
>I'm the tripfag now
Nice try, OP. Go back to shilling chink shit plastic, OK?

>>61713519
Go classic, red one is over priced and wont make a dif

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>>61713885
>>61713911
Pic related

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Which headphones should I consider? I currently own Superlux HD-330 and would like to upgrade.

Budget: $150-250
Source: Cowon Plenue D
Amp: Fiio A3 (E11K)
Genres: Electronic, Rap, Hip hop

Are planar magnetics a meme?

>>61713821
Thanks for the recommendations

>>61713862
Good to hear!
[spoiler] Although I do kinda like my bass [/spoiler]

>>61713917
So the black doesn't have any problems with hissing?
I've heard that the red has a significantly lower noise floor.

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>>61713911
>>61713924
Just realized pic related proves me nothing, so here's another bone, you silly 600 poster

>>61713940
How did I fuck up the spoiler tags?

BRB, killing myself.

>>61713958
No spoiler here on /g/, fellow newfriend

>>61713972
Oh, I though all blueboards had spoiler tags.
I've never tried using a spoiler on /g/

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>>61713989
Some do, some don't

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>>61713935
They aren't a meme. They have harmonic distortion many times lower than the average dynamic driver headphone

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>>61711323
>>61711682
Lmao. So much for Innerfidelity staying in the list with the Sennshills. Looks like it's staying with rtings.

>>61713940
Ok, so if I got the dt770 80Ω, would I want the Dragonfly Red or Black?

>>61714119
Fulla 2.

>>61714053
Still low enough to be inaudible at non-harmful listening levels on these 3 headphones.

>>61714053
Are they good for electronic music? What do you think of HIFIMAN HE4XX currently at Massdrop? Driver seems similiar to HE400i.

>>61714119
black/fulla 2

try to get the custom one studio or pro or whatever it's called now. it's a 770 with removable cable

>>61714125
>>61714173

I've never seen a good review for the Fulla 2.
Why do you recommend it?

>>61714119
this https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-Custom-Studio-Beyerdynamic-Headphones/dp/B00OAR8VUA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501785417&sr=8-1&keywords=custom+studio

>>61714119
Custom Studios are better than DT770.
>>61714163
The guy you're replying to doesn't know shit about headphones. FYI.

>>61714215
Dude, he already has the headphones

>>61714215
So are you implying that planars are a meme? I don't understand all the graphs too well myself. So much shilling that everything seems shit. I just want some decent upgrade and don't want to waste too many dollars.

>>61714215
>The guy you're replying to doesn't know shit about headphones. FYI.
this he is an idiot

>>61714264
>So are you implying that planars are a meme?
Yes. The harmonic distortion the shitty retard tripfag is referring to is inaudible. Planars all have shitty retard high frequency ringing known as the "ortho wall." This is definitely not inaudible.

>>61714264
What the tripfag is saying is true, not to mention, better bass extension
See >>61702641

>>61713935
DT880, well balanced, much less v-shapped than it's siblings, best bass of the big three, all parts can be replaces should you ever have an accidend (which shouldn't happend actually, mine is five years old and still working fine).

>>61714162
>3-5%
>Not audible

>>61714163
Definitely. Planar magnetics are known for high quality, low distortion bass and mid-bass.

>>61714307
>well-balanced
>>61712942

>>61714315
It's only that high at 20 Hz where it is decidedly inaudible. You are spouting placebophile nonsense.

>>61714323
>Baby ears can't handle treble
I'd call you out for shilling your HD 600s, but some of you shills don't even have the headphones.

>>61714323
let me guess, your alternative is something warm, with lumpy mids and wonky veiled treble.
I bet you haven't tested any of the big three anyway.

>>61714351
For those genres I'd recommend Beyerdynamic Custom Studios.

Any recommendation for gaming headphone without mic around 100$?

>>61714369
Really? a closed-back? Anon didn't even asked for isolation.

>>61714411
SHP9500S

>>61714182
Fulla 2 is generally more than enough for most headphones and has a good price, that's why it's the most recommended here
full disclaimer I've never owned fulla2 because I don't need it, but if I were looking for a dac/amp combo nowadays this would probably be the first one on my list
Out of curiosity, what the mixed/negative reviews say about the Fulla 2?

>>61714419
Yes. They sound better. They have better bass extension and less fatiguing treble.

the Fulla 2 enough for the HD600 or should I get the Mangi 2?

>>61714449
>less fatiguing treble
>Beyerdynamic

>>61714462
Try them with the Fulla 2. If the volume is adequate for your taste, great! If not, get Magni 2 and use the Fulla 2 as just a DAC. This is the best advice I can give since volume preference can vary widely.

>>61714487
>Anon can't read
You tried, at least

>>61714487
It's true. Beyer seems to have removed the peaky treble from the two custom headphones. Yes, most Beyerdynamics suffer from peaky treble. The two Customs are exceptions.

My current setup is a Fulla 2 + DT 880 250 ohm, what should I consider as a possible upgrade in the future?

>>61714522
HD600

>>61714411
I'll probably get shit on for this, but the Skullcandy Crushers.
Yes, they're really bass heavy, so you'll have to compensate with the EQ, but when you crank up the bass slider you FEEL every explosion.
They're just really fun for gaming, an you can usually nab a pair for about $50

>>61714447
I've mainly read that it lacks good clarity with trebles and it overall lacks punch, leaving it sounding a little flat.

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>>61714411
SHP9500 (or SHP9500s) or HD 558 or ATHAD500X, SHP9500(s) are super hyped and are typically considered the "best" under-$100 open headphone but there are more options that exist.

>>61714449
Ok, i can agree that Custon Pro One has more bass extension and less fatigating treble, although i still find it far from balanced.
>>61714487
Comfirmed not have ever listened to it (nor reading what Anon just wrote)

>>61714508
I thought the Customs use the same drivers as the DT 770i and DT 770 Pro 80 ohm? Did they change the enclosures?

>>61714522
>>61714537
Certainly not if anon wants little-to-no soundstage and certainly less bass

>>61714543
>I've mainly read that it lacks good clarity with trebles and it overall lacks punch, leaving it sounding a little flat.
Placebophile nonsense. It has +/- 0.1 dB frequency response.

>>61714566
*Unless if

>>61714572
Figures. It's hard to find good reviews for high end audio products.

>>61714522

HD600 is the logical upgrade path for you.

>>61714537
>>61714598
Any other suggestions other than meme cans?

>>61714543
>lacks good clarity with trebles and it overall lacks punch
The reviewer is probably delusional. The Fulla does not color the sound, poor guy probably believed some hype about a $2k amp and now has to justify the purchase somehow. At this price point all the DACs/amps (solid state) sound the same, with the only technical differences being completely inaudible. It's almost the same bullshit as golden plated cables with audio rocks duct taped on them.

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What are the best headphones under 300 bucks compatible with boompro?
Open ordclosed is fine, but i's like something sturdy and very comfortable. Also something that will not give me trouble should i even need new pads or something.

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>>61714566
HD600 bass response is virtually identical to DT880's when both are measured with a good seal. Pic related. HD600 is essentially DT880 with far more accurate upper midrange and treble in terms of frequency response.
Soundstage is highly subjective and soundstage preferences vary widely. Some prefer narrow soundstages, some prefer wide soundstages. The HD600's narrow soundstage is not necessarily a drawback. Its instrument separation is excellent.

>>61714522
Hifiman he-400i
Ath-msr7

>>61714620
Custom Studio
X2
Used PM3

>>61714606
The next step is to lose the dynamic-let status and move into planars

>>61714522
Depends on how much you're willing to spend. You can get a good planar, some top of the line senn/beyer/akg(?) cans, Focus, Stax. Upgrading to a $500 headphone isn't really worth the minimal difference, so you're stuck with around $1k models for a proper upgrade. If you're happy with the DT880 keep them until they break.

>>61714648
>he's still shilling headphones he doesn't even own

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>>61714647
>HD600 bass response is virtually identical to DT880s
Why do I even take Sennheiser shills anymore? It's pretty clear you've never compared those headphones together outside of frequency response graphs.

>>61714543
>lacks good clarity with trebles and it overall lacks punch
It's designed to be flat and confirmed so. It does not alter the FR, as neither a good dac nor amp should.
Full disclosure: I own one and love it.

>>61714647
Those graphs have been debunked.

>>61714522
hd600

>>61714689
I beg you pardon?

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>>61714053
hmmm

>>61714647
Damn dude, have you never tested both? The bass sounds very different.

>>61714695
Quit using meme graphs when it's clear you've never compared those headphones outside of memes and shitposting.

>>61714689
This claim has been debunked.

>>61714700
>Not audible

>>61714661
>If you're happy with the DT880 keep them until they break.
I'm happy with them, but realistically it sounds like I will need to start spending stupid amounts of money to get a decent improvement.

Might as well buy a pair of LSR 305 and some room treatment foam instead.

>>61714700
And that's the 600Ω version, which is supposed to distort the least. Ow.

>>61714695
It's a stupid shitposting meme that the shitty retard tripfag started. He started claiming that everything that proved him wrong was "debunked" without explaining how and then everyone else started copying him because it successfully generates (You)s.

My oiginal post
>>61713427
Fostex T50rp mkIII + sheepskin earpads + xd-05 = $337, or maybe less.
Is this a good buy, or for this price should I look at something else?

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All this sennhating is becoming ridiculous.

>>61714722
>realistically it sounds like I will need to start spending stupid amounts of money to get a decent improvement.
HD600 is a significant improvement for $300.

>>61714745
The debunked graph meme was started by a HD600 shill when everyone started posting FR measurements of the 600 that weren't in line with his opinion, mate

>>61714522
I have the DT880 too and have tested lots of headphones, DT880, K702, AD900X and HD600 are all side-grades, each with minimum improvements and faults in relation to each other, so unless you just want something different i suggest you skip these and go for something else like an eletrostatic or just straight to speakers since you already reached diminishing returns territory.

>>61714715
The Tripfag used the 250 Ohm version of the headphones.

Source; Used it for shitposting

>>61714765
Kek. This
>>61698420

>>61714758
I've been in these threads for years and there has always been a single troll here for years and years who shits on Sennheiser in every thread. Chances are very high he is now using a trip for some of his posts.

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>>61711682
Tile is entitled to his own opinion but they aren't neutral.

>>61714762
See
>>61714769
And

>>61714808
It's well known fools prefer v-shape.

>>61714765
Incorrect. >>61670884 was the start of the meme.

>>61714815
>>61714572

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>>61714758
>>61714796
Actually a lot of the shitposting, both pro and anti Brand X are done by the same people, pic related is from CG's time, it was Senn vs. AKG back then...

>>61714796
Dude, shut the fuck up; i've been in these shitty threads with and you've been doing this since fucking TrustyFucks. Now it's DiPolar.

>>61714762
>Significant improvement
>$300 dynamic driver in chink plastic

>>61714825
Sennshills certainly know how to use it better
>>61714793

>>61714825
Well I guess if you take the word "debunked" as the joke but I used it specifically in mind with the graph debunking that was here repeatedly yesterday, or the day before

>>61714808
Tyll's subjective opinions seem very inconsistent to me. He constantly espouses the virtues of the Harman target and praises headphones that sound close to the Harman target, yet he recently calls HD600 "veiled" when they are literally brighter than the Harman target, never mind the fact that four years ago he said the HD600 were not "veiled." He generally says he finds the bass too light on headphones with a flat bass response and says he'd prefer a more Harman target like bass response, yet doesn't complain about HE4XX's flat bass response as being light. He generally complains about peaky treble response yet doesn't complain about HE4XX's peaky treble which his own measurement confirms. Very inconsistent. I don't get it.

>>61714722
Yeah, in the $300-$500 range you get the same deal only with a different flavor and maybe some extra polish, if you want an actual upgrade it will cost you a lot more

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>>61714808
Why not use the measurements he took? Still paints the same story

>>61714722
>but realistically it sounds like I will need to start spending stupid amounts of money to get a decent improvement.
nah you just need an hd600

>>61714942
>>61714769

>>61714769
>>61714929
Anyone know where I can audition Stax in the UK?

>>61714960
>>61714647
objective>subjective

>>61714886
He also believes in cables and amp synergy, as well as other audiophool beliefs. I don't take what he says seriously. I've been in this hobby too long, I remember when the K701 came out, he was praising it as the best dynamic headphone out there (besting the HD650), now he doesn't seem to care about it anymore. He's just part of the hype train.

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>>61714935
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD580wHD600headband.pdf

That HD600 is a dud. Use this instead.

>>61714973
That's what a Sennheiser shill who hasn't tried each headphone would say. I hope you aren't >>61714647

>>61713427
>>61713427
Never mind bought. Thanks for nothing you useless fucks.
>generals thread
fucking never again

>>61714974
I don't take anyone's subjective impressions seriously; only objective measurements, and even then only when there's several different measurements from credible sources to compare.

>>61715012
>A dud
Is this a new excuse along with "poorly sealed"?

>>61715034
It's not poorly sealed, that HD600 on InnerFidelity is straight up trash, it's a good thing that all modern units don't exhibit these retard level driver matching.

>>61715034
they can't use that it implies some HD600s are shit
it's always poor seals and improper positioning

>>61715012
>>61715034
Both IF measurements are poorly sealed and thus invalid. Rational logic is not an "excuse."

>dismissing any graphs suggesting your headphones are less than perfect
Why are HD600 shills always so assblasted? You don't see beyer shills doing this, they acknowledge their headphone is bright.

>>61715050
Lmao. How long has it been since HD 600s actually got decent? Kek.

Is this another excuse too...? I heard this one last year.

>>61715076
They defended the HD 600's soundstage using rtings before it was eventually outed. You can't stop 'em, anon.

>>61714973
>Not testing a headphone before forming an opinion.
Keep listening to measurements.

>>61715122
I know that some HD600 measurements are poorly sealed precisely because I have tested the HD600.

>>61715078
HD600 has always been the benchmark for open headphone performance, see:
>>61715012
Look at how even the response is from 40Hz to 10kHz.

Look at the flavor of the month here:
>>61714808
Literally a rollercoaster treble response.

And this anon makes a good point here:
>>61714974
It's just shills favoring FOTM products here, after a while, everyone will forget about the Chinkfiman shit.

I'm not even a HD600 shill, I own a MDR-V6 and Etymotic ER-4S, I just don't have a use case for open headphones. I would like to buy a pair eventually however.

>>61714758
I think part of it is probably paranoia. /g/ seems super stupidly paranoid of paid shills and so whenever something becomes very widely recommended here it can't possibly be because it's a good product, it must be those evil paid shills.

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Guy, HD600 shitposting aside, does something like this exist? Like a small DAP which is part of the headphone with an extendable roller cable so you can take it out and manage music. That would solve the wire problem without using wireless lossy codecs

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>>61715155
Come on, anon... You don't even own HD 600s...
>>61715122

>>61715209
Correct. Some shill the headphones for free; some even shill the headphones without actually trying the headphones

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Hey /hpg/, how are my headphones? They're pretty flat, huh? Even measured them myself!

>>61712051
No but how is that supposed to make them sound better?

Do all you people only argue about the HD600 for hours?

>>61715397
It's summer.

>>61715397
What are we supposed to do? Actually admit to our headphone's weaknesses?

>>61714650
Thanks Anon, will check those out, is it easy to find parts for them in the future?

>>61715480
For the Custom Studio, yes. They sell a lot of spare parts on the BeyerDynamic site. I'm not sure about Philips with their X2's or Oppo with the PM3's since they're Planars.

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Is /hpg/ ready for the meme to surpass HD600

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>>61716348
A meme has already done that

>>61716348
HiFiMAN has never made a single good headphone.

>>61711441
Sennheiser customer service is slow as fuck, it is definitely not 'excellent' - email them, no response. call them, they just tell you to email them, where you'll get no response. I've been waiting 2 weeks for a proforma invoice for a replacement HD600 driver.

>>61716562
my HE-300s were bretty nice way-back-when

>>61716562
Then why does tyll and rtings like them so much? Why do they have much, much lower thd overall than the memeheiser hd600s and pretty much every dynamic driver headphone?

>>61716581
that customer service must've been poorly sealed

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Is this bad? I don't even know what it means.
I just know I really like these headphones and am tempted to spend $400 on them and their tiny little speakers.

>>61716664
What sound signature are you even looking for?
>>61716666

>>61716648
I've had similar issues in the past ordering pads and cables, it might just be shillheiser Australia

>>61716693
A good one?
Why the response just drop like a rock past 15khz?

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>>61716348
My body is ready

>>61716664
Looks like an okay, but bass heavy headphone with solid treble up until 8 kHz, but if you want to spend $400 you should probably give them a listen first.

>>61716716
>A good one?
Sound signatures are opinion. What is your preferred flavor of sound signature? Bass emphasis, treble emphasis, etc

>>61716664
I would buy them based on that graph, most 'neutral' headphones sound like nobass to me

>>61716664
Lots of bass. That being said if you like them, don't hesitate to buy them.

>>61716716
Nigga, sound signature is subjective

>>61716737
I'd love to but I imagine the closest place to do that is NYC which is like 2 hours from me and I don't have a car.
Only place here that sells headphones here is walmart

>Budget
Looking to spend between $200 and $300 Aussie dollaridoos (flexible)
>Location
Aus
>Source
Galaxy S6
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort is important to me
>Sound signature
I'm looking for something fun, with a decent level of bass
>Past headphones
M50

I'll be dropping some serious dosh on the HD600 or HD650s later this year, so I'm looking for a closed back headphone I can use to and from work. I'm gonna get something neutral when I go open back, so for these closed back ones I'm looking for something more 'fun' i.e. a bit more bass. I tried the Custom Pro Ones in store and liked to sound, but I didn't even realise there was adjustable bass so I'm not sure what setting the bass ports were on. They were a bit chunky, and I've heard the noise isolation isn't the best. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

>>61716804
380 Pro

>>61716664
Tastefully bassy (no midrange mud), light on the treble above 8K. I have them and they're altogether pleasant headphones, and don't need much EQ to sound perfect. Best closed headphones until the Aeons in my opinion.

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>Look up reviews on nice 200-300 dollar headphones

>Realize I can never afford any of these

>>61717067
Buy them from amazon and say they never came. You'll get your money back.

Do you guys think it's right to make a headphone purchase based on the genre of music you listen to? Or is sound signature pref usually not related?

>>61717067
>>61717067
what would you buy if you could?

>>61717093
>Buy them from amazon and say they never came. You'll get your money back.
Enjoy getting blacklisted from Amazon

>>61717067
>can't afford $200–300 product
do you live in Cambodia or something?

>>61717094
HD600

>>61717094
DT880, AD1000x

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5 yrs of use

>>61717093
All genres of music will sound best with a balanced sound signature like that of an HD600 or ER-4SR. Anything else is for plebeians.

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>>61717249
>DT880, AD1000x
Be glad you can't afford to buy anything because that's some seriously shit taste

>>61717357
Do you own the ER-4SR? Are they uncomfortable? They look rather thin so it doesn't seem like they'd be too bad to keep in all day.
I just hate the way the hd600 looks, it's so ugly.

>>61717373
>caring what an open headphone that you will probably be listening to alone anyway looks like

>>61717373
Etymotic comfort is highly dependent on ear canal size and shape. Results will vary greatly from user to user.

>>61717358
Over which headphones?

>>61717387
>Making excuses about your shitty looking headphones
Never change, anon

>>61717410
Sennh-

>>61717387
idk why they didn't even try to make it look decent. Even it's exact same design but in plain black plastic instead of that weird grandmother's couch blue pattern would be way better. Also those connectors for the cable look flimsy as hell. I just wont spend that much money on something I dislike

>>61717358
>pepe poster
>taste
>>61717410
inb4 HD600

>>61717387
>implying looks isn't a more valid criterion than frequency response
>implying frequency response even matters when you're not retarded and know how to EQ

>>61717358
Dumb frog poster

so assdrop are selling HIFIMAN HE4XX for $169.99, is it a decent buy at that price?

>>61717446
If you can get past its build quality, then they're pretty decent

>>61717446
If you don't like the way the $150 beyer and senns sound then yeah probably. I keep hearing concerns about build quality but even monoprice's new headphones are selling well and it's fucking monoprice for christs sake.
I would just say baby them and enjoy

what headphones have the fastest transient decay?

>>61717475 new thread

>>61717446
Hifiman build quality and customer service are shit.

>>61717446
Yeah, 400i drivers in excess 400 enclosures hfm probably had laying around. So at a minimum a ~$40 discount and they throw in $35 pads as well. As tyll said 'shut up and take my money'

>>61717446
>5% THD @ 20Hz

>>61717446
i'm not hearing good things about its bass though

what's the point of planar headphones with no bass? I am also on the fence. The M1060 has wooden accents (sounds dumb) and overall looks silly, so I'm not sure about that based on looks alone