What went wrong with Vega?

Nothing, it's coming out in a few days and will have gtx 1080 performance for $399.

>>61704502
>$399
>GTX080 Performance

I think you're thinking of the $499 Vega 64 version, breh, lel.

And GTX 1080 is only 180w TDP

>>61704458
Drivers, architecture is top notch, but drivers are shit,maybe in 9 to 12 months gets good drivers.

>>61704542
>>GTX080 Performance
ye

>I think you're thinking of the $499 Vega 64 version, breh, lel.
Nope, the Vega 56 will be enough to match it.

>And GTX 1080 is only 180w TDP
True but unless you pay $1/kWh for electricity 30 more watts won't be a problem.

Anyway the VEGA architecture is more optimized than the fiji xt on the R9 Fury X.

This is coming from a GTX 1060 owner who will switch to a VEGA 56 btw.

>$399
nice joke, inb4 miner make it 599

suddenly power don't matter

>>61704658
Nah, the mining craze is over. Etherum only revived it briefly.

>>61704542
>breh, lel.
>>61704658
I don't think a power hungry card like the Vega will be very useful.

>>61704618
>Nope, the Vega 56 will be enough to match it.
But the 64 struggles to match it

>>61704681
Ether is pretty steady right now dude, I don't what you're on.

>>61704458
>implying miners would buy this POS when it mines slower than a 1070 with triple the power darw

Nothing. Its competitive with nvidia at performance and beats it at pricing. Since when do fucks who buy 1kw psus to compensate for tiny penises complain about efficiency?. Now.

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>>61704502
>>61704542
>>61704618
>>61704703
nice benchmarks

>>61704699
power hungry doesn't matter as long as the price is right, if it runs 4k at acceptable framerates while having freesync I would prefer that for the money saved

>>61704561
Literally 2 years behind Nvidia.

They should just give up.

I hopes Vega would be more like ryzen but it wasn't

>>61704458
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nvidia-sees-israel-as-key-to-leadership-in-ai-technologies/

The Jews are working with Nvidia

>>61704729
Burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim, dumbass.

>>61704703
>day 1 benchmarks
That's expected. The GTX 1080 was ass when launched but it got better.

>>61704704
It's more of a risk than ever. Bitcoin just divided and uncle sam wants to rape cryptocurrency with its NSA cock.

>>61704458
Provided it can actually deliver on the performance claims, the only thing really disappointing is the power efficiency.

>>61704762
>That's expected.
For AMD maybe, it will surely catch up to the competition in 2022 when everyone is using something newer.
>The GTX 1080 was ass when launched but it got better.
Hardly.

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>>61704618
>Not even vega 64 on air cool matches the GTX1080, which isn't even nVidia's flagship GPU

Delusional poojeet lmao

>>61704762
The fork was a big nothing. The only issue at the moment is gay exchanges and wallets not supporting the new currency.

>>61704458
Maybe the 300W stock power consumption. No drivers will ever fix this

>>61704770
>Provided it can actually deliver on the performance claims
Claims made by clueless fanboys and clueless fanboys alone, AMD have never claimed it performed significantly faster than the FE, the performance gain in the RX comes purely from the change in clockspeeds. AMD have been comparing the Vega 64 to the 1080 for a reason, they even asked [H]ardOCP who were doing the Pepsi test bullshit using a 1080 Ti for them to use a 1080 instead.

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>>61704502
and overclock 1070 will beat it

>>61704755
you gotta be one thick headed chump to believe any post i responded to wasn't making any claims

>>61704799
lolnope

Anyway you heard it first here folks: nvidia is about to get trashed by a $400 GPU from AMD. The only solution for nvidia will be to sell a higher clocked 1080 with water cooling lmao.

>>61704806
You have to be the only person on the planet unironically thinking Vega 56 is a 1080 competitor and not a 1070 competitor in performance.

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>>61704729

>>61704818
>source: my ass
Get a trip so everyone can laugh at you when you're proven wrong AGAIN by AMD.

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>>61704795
Excuses excuses lmfaooo

nVidia is literally 5 years ahead of AMD with the 1080Ti.

They have Volta in the vaults for next year and that will put nVidia ahead by PooAMD by at least 15 years.

How can AyyyyMD even recover?

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>>61704783
Really?

It'll trade blows in most games at 1440+ and i'll be slightly behind on 1080p, that's my guess.

Also the 56 will be a nice 1070 killer.

Both are still housefires and they are way behind in die size. but it's aymd afterall, they've got 1/10t of the workforce and budget. they olny need a good enough card

>>61704855
Who are you quoting?

>>61704842
>t. beawesome

>>61704795
I was referring to AMD's own claims of RX Vega "trading blows with the 1080" and their marketing material. I'm taking those with a grain of salt.

>>61704861
>AMD marketing slide benchmarks
>literally the best case scenario game for AMD, every other game is considerably worse vs NVIDIA compared to DOOM Vulkan
Nice try

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>>61704458
Precisely nothing besides gaymen cards & gaymen drivers being woefully late?

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>>61704824
I miss staying up late to watch NASL

>>61704887
This. Why isn't /g/ talking about this? Literally no competition.

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>>61704879
of course it it you retard, doesn't make your argument any less shit.

>>61704861
Yeah, actually fuck the 64, how's the 56 competing against nVidia's "mid range"

>Vega 64 Liquid Cool bundled with a discount on a 1440p monitor
>AMDrones actually think it has a chance of even approaching 1080 Ti performance
At BEST it will be 25% slower than the 1080 Ti

>>61704901
Because nVidia can't compete against it.
That means it's bad.
BAD!

>>61704908
Chief, the 1080 ti is $800 in most places. vega 56 is gonna be $400.

>>61704901
Because literally nobody will buy it

>>61704901
first of it kind, still not release and it cost $7000

>>61704907
10% less cores are lower clocked. should still eek out if the 64 matches 1080ish perf. as the 1070 is .. half?.. the 1080

>>61704921
I wa talking about Vega 64, 56 has no chance of competing with the 1080 let alone 1080 Ti, are you actually that fucking stupid?

>as the 1070 is .. half?.. the 1080
No?

>>61704948
All it will take is the 56, 64 will outperform it by like 20%.

The gtx 1080 has no full hw async and tye vega architecture is the 5th iteration of GNC. Let that sync in.

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Reminder to disregard the idiot who claims that the vega 56 will beat a 1080. He's most likely a falseflagger trying to stir shit up. Vega 56 will be slightly above a stock 1070 but will even out once both are overclocked.

The real problem is that Vega 56 provides good mining performance and miners will ruin that 399 pricetag. Enjoy paying 500+ because of the raw performance it offers. Vega 64 probably wont be affected that much but I guess it will still hover around 560-580.

>>61704937
actually i think it was the 1060 that was half of 1080, 1070 is about 25% less

>>61704968
>All it will take is the 56, 64 will outperform it by like 20%.
Get a trip so we can all laugh at you when you're wrong in two weeks time, or are you not that confident in your claims?

>>61704981
>t. beawesome

>it's another GPU thread
Just fucking kill yourselves.

>>61704997
t.terry poster

>>61704861
>Water cooled Vega 64 heater trades blows with Founders Edition GTX1080

Lmfaooooooo

A FTW 1080 will kick its ass, are you fucking serious?

FYI the 1080 has been out for 1.5 years

I won't even bring up the GTX1080 Ti, it will murder Vega.

>>61705005
1080ti is $799 you fucking retard

>>61705012
$699, you fucking retard.

>>61705022
better buy that founders edition goy

>>61705052
>comparing custom card prices of the 1080 Ti to ref card prices of Vega
desperate shill

>>61704921
1080Ti is about $620 you mong.

Liquid cooled space heater 300w TDP Vega 64 is $600.

Pascal has been out for almost 2 years.

12nm Volta with HBM2 is 6 months away.

>>61705067
>with HBM2
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Also
>12nm
0 density improvements? Bravo TSMC!

>>61705067
how much is a liquid cooled 1080ti?

>>61705067
>HBM2
You wouldn't even want it, GDDR5X is faster

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>>61705067
cheapest on newegg is 699

>>61705075
$839

https://www.evga.com/articles/01107/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-sc2-hybrid/

It's literally faster than anything anyone will need for the next 3-4 years.

>>61705098
4 stack HBM2 is faster than ANY GDDR setup.

>>61705104
>thinking you'll get 4 stacks in a consumer NVIDIA product when even AMD are too cheap to do that

>>61705098
latency is shit though and only on a 384bit bus

>>61705109
>latency is shit though
Better than HBM
>only on a 384bit bus
Still has the same bandwidth as 2 stacks

>>61705102
>Not looking at eBay for better deals by normies

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-Founders-Edition-11GB-Video-Card-GTX-1080-Ti-FE-/263118583777?epid=631066056&hash=item3d4316f7e1:g:Gg4AAOSwOt9ZgIsF

>>61704658
That's why they're selling the majority of them as Ryzen bundles, they're also scaring away faggot miners with high TDP numbers. Miners obviously hate that shit but an individual doesn't care, as long as the card doesn't generate a massive amount of heat or cause issues with your PSU.

>>61705122
hbm has got lower latency than gddr5x anon

Wasn't disputing the fact that bandwidth is similar

>>61705129
>640
>22 shipping
>new other

yeah GL with that anon, i'll stick to a place that offers a full warranty

>>61705129
>getting chink'd on ebay

>>61705184
Fine $699 is better than $599 for a fucking GTX1070 performance space heater

LMFAO

>>61705203
>1070 performance

got any other figures you want to pull out of your ass?

>>61704458
+300 watts, one year late, match with gtx1080, no drivers.

>>61705222
AMD 's slide just shows a gayme (Doom) that is heavily optimized for Vulkan, and it barely keeps up with a GTX1080.

Once Vega 64 is out, you will see it will barely reach 1070 stock levels. OC'd 1070's will kill it.

OC'd 1080s will murder it.

OC'd 1080Ti's will rape it and rape it again and again.

>>61705022
>>61705067
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080ti/

In general 1080ti will be sold for $800.

NOW whether the vega 56 will skyrocket to more than $400 because of buttcoin miners is another matter entirely.

Here's the rub.

Day 1 benchmarks for RX VEGA (Non-AiB) will not be compared to day 1 benchmarks of GTX 1080 FE. AMD day 1 drivers will be compared to GTX 1080 with newest Nvidia drivers AND include AiB GTX 1080's as well.

This is what pisses me off about most reviews.

PLUS

4K benchmarks are set to maximum. Forget the fact that turning AA to low or off results in a large fps boost without affecting image quality by much since 4K hides aliasing anyway.

People are fools for reading benchmarks on day 1 launches and taking them as gospel for what a GPU is capable of.

>>61705307
There won't be a single Vega 56 available for $399, just like there's wasn't a single RX 480 available for $199.

Also why are you comparing the prices of the 1080 Ti and Vega 56 when the former literally has double the performance of the latter, you're basically just saying the Vega 56 is too expensive because the price/perf scaling from the Vega 56 to 1080 Ti isn't even linear, it gets cheaper going to the 1080 Ti

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>>61705285
>>61704861
Keeps up != beating it

C'mon anon, you need to take a little break from 4chin. no need to get all teary eyed and start visibly shaking over a device that's not even been released yet and you know literally nothing about.

it's actually depressing knowing that there are people that will shill for ANY company this hard.

>>61704458
Gaymers BTFO
>>>/pcbg/

>>61705317
Show me considerable performance improvements in old games from launch day to now with the 1080

>>61705345
>doesn't know how to link in 2017
>>>/r/eddit

back you go, summer friend

>>61705334
1080ti = 10.6 TFLOPS FP32
vega 56 = 8.2 TFLOPS FP32

1080ti is only 30% faster in raw performance yet costs twice as much. Think about that.

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>>61704458
Designed for data center. Gaming was secondary concern. AMD can't afford to make multi dies for different market segments.

Vega 56 will be extremely good value though. Aftermarket cards will prob OC to the moon.

>>61705317
>4K benchmarks are set to maximum

That's the fucking point anon, you want to load the gpu as much as possible to remove any system bottleneck.

Do you want your cpu benchmarks in 4k too?

>>61705376
Fury X = 8.6 TFLOPS FP32
980 Ti = 6.1 TFLOPS FP32

980 Ti was consistently 10-15% faster in games on launch and to this day is still faster than the Fury X. Think about that.

>>61705376
tflops are fucking useless if you can't put them to good use.

>>61705376
>TFLOPS

That's mean NOTHING.

>>61705307
Are you retarded breh?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1333095-REG/gigabyte_gv_n108tgaming_oc_11gd_geforce_gtx1080_ti_gaming.html

I can literally order from here and pay no tax (I'm in CA) for $699 out the door.

>>61705376
>le teraflop maymay
480 has the same teraflops as the PS4 Pro yet will always perform better
teraflops don't matter

>>61705307
>In general 1080ti will be sold for $800.

Wrong, I got a top of the line EVGA FTW3 for $750 a week ago. tax free from BH photo

>>61705391
fury x was fiji trash (3rd gen gnc), vega is 5th gen gnc. Are you actually implying 0 improvements have been made to gnc?

>>61705396
>>61705403
Not anymore. Again I have to fully admit fiji was absolute hot garbage.

>>61705419
piss 4 is cpu bottlenecked

>>61705406
>>61705428
You know advertising is against the rules, right?

>>61705406
Don't forget shipping anon

>>61704542
>>61704618
AMD cards do scheduling on hardware which takes more power, Nvidia cards offload that to the CPU which makes it consume more power. You need to look at the total system power consumption to make a fair comparison

>>61705442
It's GCN, not GNC, you dumb fuck. Second of all yes they could have achieved more with a Fiji die shrink and overclock.

>>61705442
>You know advertising is against the rules, right?
Nigger you just posted a link to nowinstick which links to sites.

Go kys

>>61705442
>Are you actually implying 0 improvements have been made to gnc?
for workstation and enterprise loads there have been noticeable improvements, for gaming it's identical to fury clock for clock

>>61705452
Hardware scheduling does not use so much power it makes the difference between AMD perf/watt and NVIDIA perf/watt, the latter still has considerably better power efficiency regardless of that.

>>61704458
reminder that nvidia can't async, bad vulkan and dx12, incomplete dx12 capability, and certified gimpworks in each of their cards. Reminder that they will force you to upgrade when volta is out as they make pascal and below slower. Ungimping titan xp proves this and they will slowly gimp it again when they need to sell titan volta. And don't get me started on botnet GeForce experience

>>61705450
Free shipping at said site. And zero tax.

I dont even buy at JewEgg, I live in CA and don't wanna pay tax.

Now go kys.

>>61705442
>You know advertising is against the rules, right?

Dude im telling you a fact to support my statement that you are WRONG.

Do I need to upload a fucking photo of my invoice? Jesus fuck....

>>61705458
>CGN
You mean NCG, right?

>>61705452
Excuses excuses lmfaooooooooo

Go kys poojeet chink

>>61705459
>>61705484
Oh no I believe you but rules are rules man. I never posted a direct link to buy anything.

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>>61705482
really? Do you want to try that again but this time not be a raging sperglord?

APOLOGISE RIGHT NOW

>>61705503
You seem angry and desperate.

Why shill for AMD so hard?

Are you going to say FreeSync monitors are cheaper and that Vega costs less than nVidia cards because of that?

It's sad really.

>>61705514
>That country
Get the fuck outta here you fucking leaf.

It's free shipping to anywhere in USA. And no tax outside of NY.

>>61705514
He's a shill, just ignore.

>>61705520
I'm not even going to buy vega but you sound like a legit shill.

>>61705346
>May 2016 GTX1080
>Hitman 2016 1080p
107 FPS

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1080_review,14.html

>March 2017 GTX1080
>Hitman 2016 1080p
134 fps

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1080_ti_review,16.html

>>61705530
>USA
Isn't that a third world country full of rednecks and niggers living in projects and trailers?

>radeon
I found the problem

>>61705548
They're doing that thing where they only render parts of the game again, aren't they?

>>61705389
I'm just saying that you can run 4K above 60 fps just by turning AA to low or off. Anyhow my point still stands with day one drives. See above.

>>61705548
>clearly got game specific optimizations
I mean overall performance, including older games

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>>61705530
dont forget to be notified when it become available

>>61705568
Which is why I want to see a benchmark done with *DAY ONE* drivers for the GTX1080 FE against *DAY ONE* RX VEGA drivers. I bet it would be fucking interesting don't you agree?

>>61705588
>I bet it would be fucking interesting don't you agree?
No because that would be an unrealistic comparison, AMD are a year late and benchmarks should show that, plus if you were going to buy one or the other RIGHT NOW you should know what kind of performance to expect. Stop trying to throw AMD a bone.

>>61705442
>piss 4 is cpu bottlenecked
Literally just an excuse sonyggers come up with to distract from the shit GPU

>>61705479
Nvidia use the brute force with vulkan and dx12

>>61705626
Run any graphics card with an FX-8350 at 1.6 GHz and say that to my face.

>>61705476
The difference is less than what the numbers on the cards themselves suggest and in order to have a fair comparison you look at the total system power usage.

>>61705647
And they still get the amount of performance they do
Imagine if they actually implemented ayysync or made a proper low level API architecture

>>61705317
why do this in the first place? Are you a retard? You think thats how the real world works? It's amd's fault for being very late in the game, Why would i base my purchase based on that methodology?

>>61705651

Literally just an excuse sonyggers come up with to distract from the shit GPU

>>61705676
Run any graphics card with an FX-8350 at 1.6 GHz and say that to my face.

>>61705616
I did not say it had to be the only benchmark. I would like to see BOTH!

Oh whaddya fuck this thread is LITERALLY /v/ spillover.

> People on here are good enough goys that they will defend their company and pay 700 bucks for a slab of plastic and metal which makes their bing-bing Wahoo! go a bit faster.

Just get a Mid card like the RX 470 - 570.
1080p / 60fps performance for a mild price. 4 years later and that performance will be doubled anyway.

>>61705490
CCG

>>61705699
Personally I think benchmarks get too convoluted when you started adding things like Day One vs Current driver performance differences, undervolting/overclocking performance (unless it's only the reviewed card being overclocked, but even then results vary wildly between GPU). You need a baseline to judge from, anything more than that should be optional.

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>>61704458
>tfw waitfags have been waiting for this for over 2 years
>tfw vega was worse than anyone could possibly imagine

>>61705669
It's nothing to do with basing any purchasing decision on it. It's to do with seeing how drivers have progressed (especially on Nvidia's side) and what to expect in performance gains from driver optimizations. I am not looking to make the RX VEGA look good here. It's more to see how RX VEGA matches up to day one drivers on Nvidia to silence Nvidia shills on how great Nvidia apparently was a fucking year ago.

>>61705696
I have, hence why I'm saying it over and over
Literally just an excuse sonyggers come up with to distract from the shit GPU

>>61705730
They're still waiting for Vega performance to be decent, the 'finewine' meme.

>>61705774
no you haven't lmao

>>61705776
finewine = pajeet code monkey figure how coding decent driver.

>>61705790
delet

>>61705731
Basically I want to see what would have happened if both GPU's had launched on the same day just for shits and giggles.

>>61705786
You're right I've done even worse
fx 6100 with a 980ti, that was my build for nearly a year

>>61705555
Your country is literally worthless and America's hat.

We still have 197 million white people here in USA and we have the worlds largest economy and the largest millitary.

Kiss my bum, leaf.

>>61705571
It comes in stock day and night.

1080Tis are not that hard to find.

>>61705555
Pretty much. Also, nice trips.

too much aluminum

>>61705833
not that guy but was curious to see the racial distribution of certain states.

Why the fuck is there so many niggers in washington?

>>61705852
>trips

Linus revealed it

can we finally agree that we still don't know shit about vega?

also I pretty much sure at this point drivers got delayed because of Apple

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>>61705937
*trips*

>>61705953
Gaymen drivers got delayed because gaymens are of least concern to RTG right now.
Gaymens don't buy Radeon.

>>61704971
With GPU 3.0 there is no such thing as "stock" 1070, given enough power and thermals the card will boost to near maximum and whatever you can squeeze out is ~100mhz at most which is negligible.

>>61705978
delet

>>61705970
>because gaymens are of least concern to RTG right now.
>Check out this radeon pack which is clearly meant for gamers with 2 free games and bundles the GPU with components to deter miners
Whatever you say senpai

>>61705928
>niggers in washington?

Niggers are only 12% of the USA, although it seems like they are a higher population.

You see niggers on TV and movies and music all the time because Jews use them and make money. But in reality they are only around 35-40 million in USA.

Spics are around 60 million (at least 12 million are illegal).

Asians are around 5 million. And the rest are all minorities, obviously.

Niggers are usualy densely populated in the south and both coasts like in commiefornia and new york.

>>61705970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vLL1O9iQo

PR dude promises volume ready to sell. I don't think it's written off as we all assume here.

I'm confused here
>professionals don't buy radeon
or
>gamers don't buy radeon
which is it?

>>61706030
Professionals MIGHT buy Radeon now, since WX9100 is nice and SSG is one-of-a-kind.
Gaymurs would still buy nvidia.

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>>61704762
>Bitcoin just divided
>mfw google gets me to this line
>>Miners [...] are now threatening legal action against developers who are working on such a proposal.

>>61706018
actually slightly confused about this, do I get 2 games(which I want btw) with whole including crappy samsung monitor or just with the card?

2 games is $120, it is promising games I want, thats a huge deal

>>61705953
Sure we do, Vega FE has been out for a while now

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>>61706026
fuck off /pol/

If there were some way where one of you fuccboi's left your moms basement and was outside I'd pop you right in the fucking mouth.

>>61704458
Developers by indians. RTG fired all their US based engineers and outsourced this architecture to curryville.

>>61704561
t. rajeet

>>61706044
I have no brand loyalty I swear. I would switch in a fucking heartbeat if the other side produced better cards. Too bad Vega is going to look like a turd but I am still going to wait for the benches before decides. Currently on a 290x.

>>61706026
I never asked for a detailed breakdown of ethnicity's across the country, i specifically asked why 50%+ of Washington is niggers.

>>61706058
Big loyalty for a hired gun.

>>61706064
You don't, but most people certainly do.
Radeon sells like shit even with cheaper and superior products for whatever fucking reason no one knows about.

>>61706052
You pay 100 dollars on top of the card and that entitles you to.

>2 free games
>100 dollar off a 1700 + mobo combo
>200 dollar off this crappy samsung monitor

You get the card + 2 free games. The last two you can choose not to use. Which means you paid 100 dollars for 2 games (which will be less than 100 dollars come winter steam sales).

>>61706055
FE rise even more questions about arch since 90% of new features not working

also PR dude in that hardocp video says interesting thing that powerdraw going to be dynamic quite opposite of what FE is

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>>61706058
>t. Tyrone Biggums

Stop smacking your lips, nigger.

>>61706092
oh, that sucks, i'd like just two games
already got r5 1600x and best freesync monitor of 2015 mg279q

>>61706092
the bundle deals are all shit unless you were specifically buying those things. even then you can shop around and get those discounts elsewhere.

you only get that bundle if you want a limited card for aesthetics.

>>61706086
I agree but RTG is about to lose people like me with no brand loyalty as well when they keep making cards that cause house fire. I already have a 290x and at worst the Vega64 will be as bad as the 290x in terms of temps and TDP but if the benches lose as well I am jumping to Nvidia. I have been holding off on a monitor + GPU upgrade because of Vega and if it was good Radeon would have kept me as a customer for at least 2 more cards as I am buying a Freesync monitor otherwise Nvidia gets my business for at least 2 cards since I will be buying Gsync.

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>>61706071
>i specifically asked why 50%+ of Washington is niggers.

I just told you, they live on the coasts or in the south.

They live in DC probably because the state is very liberal and they have jobs in government (ie free gibsmedat). Dumb shit like tour guides, cleaning services at The Capital, law firm dick washers, etc. etc.

Most niggers live horrible lives and mostly in the ghettos.

Maryland is also nigger infested, and the ones that escape "the hood" usually end up in DC.

>>61706114
The bundle deal is to prevent miners from snatching up the cards and if you are building a new PC it is a somewhat good deal otherwise just look else where.

>>61706119
>They live in DC
>state

t. brainlet

>>61706098
Fuck you.

>>61706126
lol, no its not. don't fall for their greedy tricks.

vega is shit for mining, FE confirmed that. you mine better on a 1070 and there's still plenty stock of those around. also vega is a housefire and power plays a big role in returns. finally eth is dying and the alt coins are not worth shit

>>61706146
>Fuck you.
Isn't the internet great. It allows shitheads like yourself to say shit that would, in real life get your head cracked open.
Hopefully you'll suffer the same fate fucking cunt.
Please turn to the loaded gun in your drawer, put it in your mouth, and pull the trigger, blowing your brains out. You'll be doing the whole world a favor. Shitbag.
I would love to smash your face in until it no longer resembled anything human, faggot.
Die painfully okay? Preferably by getting crushed to death in a garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped out of their sockets. Fucking bitch
I would love to kick you hard in the face, breaking it. Then I'd cut your stomach open with a chainsaw, exposing your intestines. Then I'd cut your windpipe in two with a box cutter. Hopefully you'll get what's coming to you.
Fucking bitch I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It'd be hilarious to see you begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head, leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot
Shut the fuck up faggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut to ribbons, and your throat slit. You're dead if I ever meet you in real life, fucker. I'll fucking kill you.
I would love to fucking send your fucking useless ass to the hospital in intensive care, fighting for your worthless life.
I wish you a truly painful, bloody, gory, and agonizing death, cunt.

>>61706157
i like how you pasta'd that insult, that much of a brainlet you need to copy other peoples insults

>>61706180
Suck my cock, dude.

>>61706155
vega has whole instruction set that is perfect for mining, anon

>>61706191
tell that to the eth devs because it is shit at mining

>>61705452
This

>>61706197
It can mine other stuff. Zcash etc.

>>61706212
>Also your people do shit like WebM related. Other races don't.

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

Everyone's favorite Youtuber (*cough* shill) basically says RX VEGA 64 is not worth it. But VEGA 56 is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7VH2DprHMk&feature=youtu.be

>>61706242
The ratio of whites and niggers is very large.

Have you seen how Africans live in 2017? They don't even have toilet flushing and live in huts.

You have to go back nigger. This is a white country.

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>>61705391
>to this day is still faster than the Fury X
Wrong
The Fury X outperforms the 980ti in most titles now

>>61706268
If Vega56 is any good, miners will just snatch it up.

>>61704542
When everyone already has 650 and 850 PSU this isn't a big deal

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>>61706297
>Titanfall 2
Who even cares lmao

>>61706224
alt coins are not worth mining at the moment. also zcash is better on nvidia cards

>>61706307
>Heat is not a big deal

You're a fucking retard and making excuses for PooAMD.

Systems are becoming smaller and green energy is much more important now.

Kys.

http://twitter.com/Radeon/status/892792530634493954

Day one results will be shit as expected

>>61706319
Yeah, who cares about good video games
Early access survival trash is literally all that matters

>>61706297
really?

http://www.babeltechreviews.com/fury-x-vs-gtx-980-ti-revisited-36-games-including-watch-dogs-2/3/

>The GTX 1070 is the fastest of the three cards we have tested here using our maxed-out 36 game benchmark suite. In second place is the GTX 980 Ti followed by the Fury X. Nothing has really changed over the past 6 months although the Fury X has managed to gain a little ground on the GTX 980 Ti in 7 individual benchmarks out of the 75 we originally tested.

>>61706330
ETH is about to reach a difficulty where mining it becomes unprofitable unless you are running some large GPU setup anyway. Miners are simply scrambling for whatever they can mine before it hits this point, sell their setup and wait for POS.

>>61706345
Who the fuck cares?

>>61706339
he's kinda right though, for desktop nobody really cares about tdp. value and perf is more important

portable and sff yeah, thats kind of a minority.

>>61706307
>7700k is a fucking house fire when CPU draw less power than GPUs
>This isn't a big deal when referencing Vega64 TDP
Fuck off moron.

>>61706348
didnt eth just increase in difficulty a few weeks ago? price has also crashed too which makes it even worse.

>>61706354
Ok lets say you're not a watt fag (which I am) then why the fuck does an AIR COOLED $599 Vega 64 not beat a $440 GTX1080 (which is 1.5 years old already)?

>>61706354
Higher TDP = more heat and louder fans
Some people actually care about acoustics in a room, how a PC can affect ambient temperatures and overclocking thermal head room.

>>61706373
First off.
Vega 64 aircooled is 499.
Secondly.
A 1080 is only 440 on rare occasions and they get snatched up instantly.
Lastly, I am curious as to why the Vega is so shit. Probably shitty driver team with a new architecture they are not familiar with.

>>61706373
> then why the fuck does an AIR COOLED $599 Vega 64 not beat a $440 GTX1080
maybe you should wait until you see benchmarks anon, that is unless you are keeping them all to yourself?

>>61706375
300w gpus arent anything new anon, if you are concerned about acoustics get an aftermarket cooler.

>>61706354
Sff use the separate blower direct to direct anyway so that the gpu air doesn't interfere

>>61706396
No, that shitty driver team delivered good Pro drivers for SIGGRAPH.
Heck, drivers for SSG alone must be an asspain.

>>61706400
>300w gpus arent anything new anon
How is this a point? Shitty cards aren't anything new either. That doesn't stop shitty cards from being made. You said for desktop nobody really cares about TDP. That is wrong. Some people do. The same people who didn't buy a 300W gpu the last time.

>if you are concerned about acoustics get an aftermarket cooler.
Again that is fucking stupid. Aftermarket coolers cost more and the amount of thermal energy generated is still the same or even higher (AIB cards come with factory OC) so the concerns about acoustics, ambient temp and thermal head room are still there.

>>61706431
if you are into sff wait for the nano

>j-just you wait

>>61706447
I was but there wasn't any decent cases so I just did full

>>61706396
>I am curious as to why the Vega is so shit.
Because gAyMD can't even compete with a 1.5 year old GPU and charges the same amount of fucking money as that said 1.5 year old GPU.

>>61706461
I know the Vega is shit. I wanna know why it is shit.

>>61706467
It's a uarch not intended for gaymen.

>>61706467
Because it's built by pajeets who have the fraction of the R&D money of nVidia.

>>61706461
>May 2016 release
>1.3 years
ftfy

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>>61706482
Can nVidia make SSG clone?

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Anyone else hoping the Vega 56 outperforms the GTX 1070? Also, it's just a cute down Vega 64 right? Is there any reason, besides binning, why it shouldn't be able to come close to Vega 64 clock speeds when overclocked? Are compute units related to how fast it can be clocked?

>>61706487
>Off by 60 days

Wow great comeback.

0.02 pooAMD bucks have been deposited in your indian bank account.

>>61705978
the problem with the nvidia boosts is that they dont last more than 2.5 mins and the card go back to its stock clocks

its literally a cheat for the benchmarks and nothing more after 5 mins in gaming you literally dont see the results at all

>>61706445
I'm just saying if 300w is a big deal people should look back at previous generations. people still bought the cards
>some people care about tdp
Sure, they are in the minority though, that's what i'm getting at.

if you think that's fucking stupid and you are anally retentive about tdp then stick with your $100 50W passive GPU's. Fuck.

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

>>61706482
I mean so is ryzen compared to intel. still btfo'ing the kikes

>>61706499
10% less cores
Slightly lower clocks
vs
25% less cores
same clocks

it'll be pretty similar to the difference 1080 vs 64 at $40 less.

>>61706505
Wrong. Nvidia boost goes up to a higher number and then stabilizes when the temperature does (because a GPU takes time to heat up). It absolutely does not drop back to its stock clocks.

>>61706530
How did gAyMD btfo Intel?

They literally superglued 4 fucking dies on a single socket chip. Anyone could've done that.

They literally set back the computing industry by 5-10 years because of their lazy engineering.

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>>61705067
so if vega is a space heater
what is 1080ti that is nearly on fury x level?
lol

>>61706567
it does it always have since its inception

>>61706571
Considerably higher performance

>>61706499
unverified sauce says vega 56 says it kills 1070 by a good margin
https://www.techpowerup.com/235775/amd-rx-vega-56-benchmarks-leaked-an-unverified-gtx-1070-killer#

>>61706571
1080Ti has an excuse to run at 250+ Watts because it's a monster of a card, speed wise.

Vega has no excuse to run that hot when it's at GTX1060 speeds. It should be running at 120Watts TDP.

>>61706582
>unverified sauce
It's (((Kyle))).
For whatever reason he shills AMD now.

>>61706570
so if amd set back the industry 10 years

what is intel doing since they are literally going to glue their cores too?
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/foundry/emib.html

get rekt

>>61706506
>people still bought the cards
I didn't say everyone cared you moron. You are the one that said no one did.

>They are in the minority
Which is why for the past few generations the best sells cares have been the ones with high TDP? Oh wait. 290x had a higher perf/value but a higher TDP. Tell me which card sold more. The 970 or the 290x/390?

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>>61704618
>vega 56 will be enough to match it
but the 64 struggles with mathing it you delusional idiot

>>61706584
Vega10 is 12.5 tflops, GP102 is ~11 tflops.
They are about even ALU efficiency-wise.

>>61706581
so its not ok if vega 64 sits between 1080 and 1080ti with 300 watts
but its ok when 1080ti is basicly a heat exchanger for 25% more perf than a 1080
hmmmm i wonder who believes that kind of shit

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>>61706571
Almost double the perf/watt of the Fury X

>>61706606
>vega 64 sits between 1080 and 1080ti with 300 watts
But that's wrong, you fucking retard.

>>61706576
No it doesn't. Here is an example.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080-ti/

1080ti. Boost clocks ~1500mhz.
Now go online and search. You will find people saying their 1080ti keeps clocks of 1900 - 2100 mhz stable under GPU 3.0 boost.

>>61706619
>tfw my 1080 Ti holds 1900MHz @ 0.95V

>>61706587
he literally works for amd in case you didnt know lol
>>61706616
really? how so? if it beats 1080 it means that its literally between them meaning that the card is literally where amd said it would be
aka im right fag

>>61706570
Get a trip.

>>61706631
It doesn't beat the 1080 in anything but DOOM Vulkan

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>>61706619
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/15

pretty sure it doesnt

>>61706570
SOPA MACACO

>>61706570
c'mon, it's no fun when your bait is that obvious.

>>61706570
UMA DELICIA

>>61706631
>Kyle
>working for AMD
>after they refused to give him review samples
Yeah ok

>>61706647
>1080
Good job faggot.

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>>61706643
i assume you know that because you already have benchmarked the rx vega cards right?

>>61706647
>temp compensation
hurrr i wonder what throttling is you absolute fucking retard

>>61706664
i thought you mean the techpowerup kyle the retard kyle isnt obviously

>>61706670
shit you mean 1080ti is another chip? has another cooling solution? DOES IT HAVE ANOTHER GPU BOOST TECH?
lol

>>61706675
>m-muh drivers
FE is trash and representative of RX Vega performance

>>61706694
>FE is trash
?
What's next, SSG is trash because jacketman can't compete?

>>61706705
What even is that post

>>61706707
According to jacketman's brigade anything AMD is trash.

>>61706694
its so trash it beats a 7000 bucks gpu
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-16gb,5128.html?_ga=2.122280843.1459314162.1501745848-835491091.1496904232

nvidia literally cant compete on compute segment anymore

>>61706713
Nah, Ryzen is good. Vega is a fucking disaster.

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>>61706594
>I'm a special snowflake!
Fuck off you tool, you know fine well nobody == 99%

I can say nobody would pick a gt 730 over a 1080ti if they were both $50 but there's always one retard. Doesn't make the statement any less true.

>Which is why for the past few generations the best sells cares have been the ones with high TDP?
That's surely why

HW BOUT ITS CUZ RED IS GAY AND GREEN IS BETTER COLOUR. HOW MANY AYMD? CARDS SELL? MORE GREEN CARDS THEREFORE GREEN IS BETTER COLOUR. CHECKMATE EX DEE.

I'm out, enjoy getting buttblasted with everyone else in the thread who gives 0 fucks about 300w for a gpu

>>61706721
>compute
FE isn't a professional card.

>>61706721
>compute
But it's all 3D graphics.
>>61706723
The only GPU uarch that is able to handle large datasets is a disaster?
You're all out of your mind.

>>61706739
>card ships only with radeon pro drivers
VEGA FE ISNT A PROF CARD

shills are running out of excuses

>>61706747
Spot the retard who eats up all the terrible marketing shit AMD feeds him

1070 LEVEL PERFORMANCE XD

>>61706739
It's a "prosumer" one.
It runs Pro drivers, albeit these are not certified.

>>61706728
>COLOUR
Aussie/bong fag detected.

Get out.

>>61706757
Where are the certified drivers? Pro cards have certified drivers.

>shills are running out of excuses
The irony, after I guarantee you have used the 'FE isnt' a gaming card' excuse a dozen times already. Go back to r/AMD you retard.

>>61706768
It runs both drivers, dumbass.

>>61706762
I don't think RED's CEO is a part of AMD marketing team.

>>61706779
If Lisa was involved with Vega it wouldn't be such a disaster, Ryzen on the other hand is a godsend. You can see where the funding went.

>>61706791
How the fuck the only GPU uarch in the world that is able to handle large datasets is a disaster?
You're all outta your minds.

>>61706739
that's called moving the goalposts
just like when you talk to a linuxfag about how many people use linux he will just start shouting that everyone uses it because servers and android, totally ignoring the fact that you were talking about normal PCs

>>61706798
>t. retard who can only parrot marketing slides because he knows nothing about computer hardware
>>61706799
>that's called moving the goalposts
I'll keep that mind every time one of you retards tries to claim the FE isn't a gaming card.

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>>61706814
Now that's what I call a shitty bait.

>>61706827
>can't argue with him
>call him bait
this is getting really old
inb4 you get butthurt and start posting
>(You)

>>61706776
perhaps you need to spend 10 seconds on google before you post
http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/radeon-software/professional

>>61706693
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080/

Tell me again how the boost is only 2.5 minutes and the card goes back to stock clocks after.

Can't wait for you to shift goalpost so let me quote you again.
>>61706505
>the problem with the nvidia boosts is that they dont last more than 2.5 mins and the card go back to its stock clocks

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>>61706835
No, that's just silly.

>>61706814
>>t. retard who can only parrot marketing slides because he knows nothing about computer hardware

hey red ceo is calling
https://www facebook com/jarred.land/posts/10154878409465415?comment_id=10154878470535415&notif_t=like&notif_id=1501276190497990
debunk this shills

>>61706728
Hahahahaha. How booty blasted can you be?

>No one cares about TDP, they buy perf value
>Well people bought 970 which had lower TDP and lower perf value
>WAHWAHWAH it doesn't count

>>61706848
so wait you argue about something nvidia does by posting nvidia sites?

are you mad?

>>61706843
>link to marketing material
Thanks for proving my point, AMDrone.

>>61706870
site has links for certified radeon pro drivers that include vega fe
>>link to marketing material

its hard to accept the truth so i suggest you just shut down your pc and cry in a corner or something

>>61706870
Dear favela monkey,
Please stop shitposting.

>>61706879
>>61706881
So this is what brainwashed fanboys look like, no logic just autistic screeching because they can't accept something that goes against their agenda.

>>61706866
Where else are you going to find information about the stock clock speed of Nvidia products? I mean is Nvidia product page going to tell me fake clock speeds of their cards?

I don't get it. You say GPU boost doesn't work more than 2.5 minutes and goes back to stock clocks after and yet literally nothing you have posted has shown this. In fact you blew your own argument apart with the article you posted yourself which shows minimum clocks of slightly above 1820mhz while Nvida page shows boost clocks as 1733mhz.

>>61706897
SOPA MACACO

>>61706897
you are the one that claims amd doesnt have certified drivers for vega fe despite the fact the link clearly states it does

i mean you arent even a favela monkey tier anymore you must be a texan

>>61706918
The FE driver is different to the Pro driver you stupid fuck.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/download/frontier?os=Windows+10+-+64
https://support.amd.com/en-us/download/workstation?os=Windows+10+-+64#pro-driver

Like seriously just stop posting you're reddit levels of fucking retarded

>>61706933
i know you are trying to hard but as far as bait goes you need to work it out
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Workstation-Graphics-Drivers.aspx

literally the first card is vega fe but hey i guess you are right and amd is wrong 10 real deposit on your favela account

>>61706967
Try clicking that link for the FE card you stupid fucking cunt.

>he doesn't know certified drivers are released quarterly
Stop posting.

>>61706976
Pro driver =/= Pro Enterprise driver.
Only enterprise drivers are released quarterly.
Certified drivers are released whenever AMD wants to.

>>61706981
Show me the certification for the FE version driver.

>>61706976
oh god stop posting already you know shit
THIS IS A WORKSTATION CARD you mentally challenged ape

Holy fuck this is one desperate attentionwhoring favela monkey.

>>61706996
>FE
>workstation card

see >>61706814
>I'll keep that mind every time one of you retards tries to claim the FE isn't a gaming card.

>>61707006
You want replies you cannibalistic ape?
(You)

>>61707020
see >>61706993

>>61707028
Holy fuck this is one desperate BR ape.
(You)

>>61707006
just accept that you knowledge around technology is limited since you are an ape and move on
next thing you will say is that radeon ssg is an entry level gaming card

>>61707032
>>61707037
>ad hominem because they got proven wrong
Ckassic reddit move there.

>>61707044
>>ad hominem because they got proven wrong
claims a priori that a card isnt workstation because he cant spend 5 seconds to click a link

>>61707062
see >>61706993

>>61707044
>l-lebbit!
UMA DELICIA

>>61707066
see>>61707062

>>61707076
see >>61706993

>>61707073
Fuck off BR monkey

>>61707084
a br monkey fights with another br monkey

/g/ has turned into a zoo

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>>61707084
>favela monkey calls someone else BR

>>61707097
>newfag posts shitty anime
go figure

>>61707100
>>newfag posts shitty anime
newfag shits on br with truth
br's being ape's they are just totally shift the goalpost

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>>61707100
>BR ape calls someone newfag

>>61707116
>proves he's a newfag with filename
good joke br monkey

What a nice vega thread

>>61707129
apes are mad cause amd doesnt ship vega's on favel errrr i mean zoo's

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>>61707125
>BR ape calls someone a newfag

>>61707139
>avatarfagging
fuck off newfag

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>>61707129

That's the secret power of AMD. Turn everything into poo.

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>>61707150
>fucking BR ape calls someone a newfag

So Vega is shit

Why aren't these Techtubers thrashing it like they do with Intel or Nvidia?

>>61707200
They're under fucking NDA you braindead ape.
Like holy fuck GPU threads are the nexus of retardation in /g/.

>>61707200
Trashing an underdog is seen as disgraceful.

>>61707200
cause they actually have a technical background unlike br monkeys

>>61704458
pajeets and chinks

>>61707213
>underdog
Does not matter

Journalism should be equal

>>61704458
>What went wrong with Vega?
Poor Marketing, Not going to bank on future async support since Nvidia has a larger mindshare and 1080Ti performance at 4K on the majority of recent titles is already miles ahead despite brute forcing its way through, to add insult to injury I can run it overclocked on a 650Watt PSU.
I will reconsider AMD if they ever become on par or better with Nvidia's offerings only because I have a freesync monitor. No point in freesync if I run locked at monitor refresh rate anyway. Different deal once 4K/144Hz OLED becomes a thing.

Sick of the rumor mill, these days I just go fuck it and buy whatever is currently available achieving desired performance target.