/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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I have a AMD 6300 i need to render from CPU which Ryzen CPU should i buy? i need mobo and ddr4 ram all under 500$

>>61688356
1700x

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Going to re-post my question from the last thread.

Is this a good motherboard and a good price for this motherboard? I'm hoping to grab an R7 1700 when they are back in stock on amazon and I want to overclock to roughly 3.6-3.7ghz on all cores.

Also, is this good RAM for hitting 3200mhz?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4n648d/gskill-tridentz-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzkw

I checked this particular motherboard's QVL on the ASUS website but couldn't find this particular ram kit on it. I found some that had similar product numbers up until a few of the digits but they also had different kit sizes and I am just a little confused about which memory to pick.

>>61688422
Find the exact model or we cannot guarantee you anything.

On the list = 100% works and will boost to the speed on the kit.
Not on the list = Try your luck.

>>61688422
why not a cheaper 320 from MSI

>>61688332
Looking to buy an RX 580, but they are out of stock everywhere. I assume this is a common question, but when goes anyone expect them to come back in stock? Even the 1060's are low and expensive at the moment

Sadly, Ryzen doesn't have integrated graphics, so can't wait it off without.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx580/
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1060/

>>61688422
I've gotten 4x8gb tridentz rgb sticks to 3200mhz stable at 14CAS so you should be okay. I haven't attempted anything higher than that

>>61688586
You can't buy one unless you're a miner and buy them in bulk or you buy one at a massively inflated price on eBay, get something else, as soon as they come in stock they'll disappear again within seconds.

How's my build so far?
I'm trying to make it a combination of attractive and powerful, without spending extra on features that I won't use.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xjw3Yr

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When does the BreadDipper NDA lift, I thought it was this week?

>>61688704
>M2

>>61688704
Not bad son, personally wouldn't use that PSU but it's a fine choice. There are better coolers for the 1080Ti though.

>>61688734
>meme

>>61688541
Can the A320 chipset overclock? I was hoping to do some overclocking on whatever board I got.

>>61688587
Are you happy with the features that this board offers? I have heard that the audio is pretty nice compared to some of the other motherboards out there. That's part of the reason that I am considering this one.

I know Ryzen tends to do better with higher RAM clocks, but is 3200mhz a significant improvement over 2933mhz? I'd like to get as much gaming performance as possible, but it's not my only concern so I'd be willing to sacrifice some if I can have stability.

>>61688730
I think Thursday is the day according to a few tech channels for NutsLicker

>>61688752
>>61688730
>BreadDipper NDA lifts on Thursday
>Vega NDA lifts on 14th
What the fuck?

>>61688747
>Can the A320 chipset overclock?

You'll need B350 or X370 to overclock. B350 does it just fine.

>>61688747
I don't use the on board audio on that system, it's piped out via HDMI in my setup. You shouldn't run any settings that aren't 100% stable through a memtest and stability test. That said 2933 is maybe 2% worse or so in the extreme case. I think techreports did a memory analysis that showed that

>>61688742
>Not bad son, personally wouldn't use that PSU but it's a fine choice. There are better coolers for the 1080Ti though.
Any that are as small as the one on my list?
That was the best 1080 ti I could find for that size; I really don't want GPU sag.

>>61688802
Buy fishing lines to hang it up.
Or ghetto up some lego stand to prop it
Or if you are buying a 800 dollar card you can afford https://www.amazon.com/MasterAccessory-Universal-VGA-Holder-MCA-0005-KUH00/dp/B01IQCBKOI/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501662164&sr=1-3&keywords=gpu+brace one of these

>>61688802
Get the evga sc2 if you want a good 2 slot card. Strip if you can do 2.5 slots

>>61688837
>strip

Wew I meant ASUS Strix

>>61688802
If you don't want GPU sagging you don't have many choices. Either a case with vertical mounting or motherboard laying flat. I'd say the best bet would be to get a case with mobo lying down.

>>61688802
MSI Gaming if you really need it to be 2 slots. The Strix and Aorus are a little better but if sag bothers you they are heavy as shit.

>>61688864
Make sure your card fits that case

Intel BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiy1kZaQT1s

Specs right now:
>i5 3570k
>Gtx 760
>12 gigs of DDR3 RAM
>550 watt psu
>2TB HDD + 120GB SSD (these are still fine)
>Shitty 24" 1080p TN
Do I:
>Upgrade mobo
>Get r5 1600
>DDR4 RAM
>Mid range GPU
>maybe new case for non-shit cable management
>Maybe new PSU depending on GPU and CPU power
>Keep shitty TN and keep gaming in 1080p
Or do I:
>Upgrade to RX vega 64
>Upgrade to 4K ips/1440p widescreen ips display
>Hope i5 doesn't bottleneck
>Hope 550 watt is enough

>>61688972
>Upgrade to RX vega 64
>Hope 550 watt is enough
Hahahahahahahaha

>>61688332
>>61688332
why does pc part picker not have certain parts from dell? it has no optic drives for example

>>61688972
latter, i managed to run a 290 on a 450w unit without any house fires somehow. OC your 3570k for now and upgrade when 7nm ryzen has matured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCjYKDXmnAs

Wanna reuse my old mobo and i5 3570k so was wandering if I could run it with linux without a GPU
Ill use it mainly for light gaming (snes emulator), drawing and watching videos
if i should get a gpu, can someone suggest something udner 50burgers pls

>>61689013
If your mwinboard has a connector you don't need a dedicated GPU, the IGP is plenty.

>>61688802
>GPU sag
Literally a non issue. 16 layer PCBs are stable as fuck and can take a bit of bending as long as it's not changing position all the time

>Acer Predator XB271
>core i5
>Evga 700 watt power supply
>8gb ram
>GTX 970
>G502
Have a 1080 ti coming soon. Planning on bumping up that ram too as well as the processor.
Should I settle for a core i7 or get an Xeon or core i9? How would you make my build better?

>>61689122
Ryzen 1700

>Looking for a new mATX case
>Corsair Air 240 looks great
>Apparently 1080 Ti is too big to fit in

fugg

Guess I'll go with Thermaltake Core V21. It has what I want but cables are gonna look somewhat messier.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wmV4LD

What do you guys think of this? Already have HDD and SSD from my old computer.

>>61689201
Good luck finding any 480 in stock

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Where is the catch?
Is this card broken? How is it so cheap?

>>61689251
You know what they say about things being too good to be true

Currently waiting to see what third parties do with Vega, hopefully sapphires will be worth getting.

>>61689251
being a german cuck

>>61689226

I already have it

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>>61689201
careful with the atx psu, non-blower cards have been known to overheat from lack of airflow in the nano s.

>>61689276
No you don't, good luck finding one though.

>>61689276
Then there is nothing wrong with your build.
Why do you need a X370?

>>61689324
there isn't much variety for itx on am4, looks like all b350 boards are unavailable.

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>>61689305
what are you talking about, are you daft? why would I lie on a random imageboard about having a year old graphics card.

>>61689278
I've heard that having 2 case fans in front can eliminate a lot of extra heat from that, but it still is hotter than other cases.

>>61689324
>>61689367
Yep, there's about 2 itx mobos in stock and I would trust ASrock over biostar.

>>61689580
Nice fake image, you don't need to lie on the internet, we know you don't actually have a 480.

My bios settings reset when I turn off the power strip, after shutting down my PC. My mobo is a brand new MSI b350 tomahawk.
What is going on?
Is there an issue with the cmos battery, or could it be something else, lite the auto clear cmos option?

Dear Intel shills.
This is a reminder that the optimization in games DID come for AMD's FX chips, and the FX8350 outperforms the i5 2500K in most games.
The same will be true of Ryzen if it isn't already.
Future-proof is a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvdSnEbL50

>>61689011
OCing might require a new cooler too desu. I'm gonna try reapplying thermal post to see if it doesn't pull 50-60 °C in idle. The shitty cable management might cause a bit of that too.

Are there any major complaints about MSI B350M Mortar mATX motherboard? I'd like my next build to be smaller and this board is looking okay.

Is there any game out there right now that justifies a $1000+ PC?

>>61689950
144fps is a lot more demanding than 60. If you're fine with 60 then not really.

>>61689979
Is 144fps really that good? People told me g-sync was good and I got a monitor and I don't even notice it.

any better gpu for $661 aud than a 1080?

>>61690002
do you actually use gsynch though (games that support and nvidia card

>>61688356
1600x or 1700 will do you ok

>>61690296
I don't know. Does GTA V?

>>61689950
Yes.

>>61690002
>Is 144fps really that good?
No, not really, unless you are super into competitive shooters. Just having a 144Hz monitor is enough even if you are only getting around 60FPS, it means you never need vsync which is fucking cancer.

>>61690519
So don't get tearing unless your GPU is putting out frames higher than your monitor's refresh rate?

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Is BreadDipper going to make any sense for gaming what so ever? I'm still on a 2500K with a 1080Ti, and looking at getting BreadDipper when it comes out.

I would guess it will have zero performance improvement over Ryzen 7 right now, but is there any chance in a few more years games will use the amount of cores it has? I don't do any productivity work at all. Would Intel's Coffee Lake make more sense for what I want to use it for?

>>61690529
With a 144Hz monitor you pretty much don't get any noticeable tearing at all, regardless of frame rate. It's still there but you'll stop caring and forget it exists within about 5 minutes.

>>61690551
So why does adaptive sync exist?

>>61690562
Adaptive sync is total shit and doesn't work, it's just an Nvidia marketing meme like most of their other technologies. Gsync works but you pay a premium for it.

>>61690562
Adaptive vsync was conceived when 99% of people were still using 60Hz monitors, it's useless on a 144Hz panel. In theory it turns vsync on when you have FPS to match your refresh rate, and off below it, but it doesn't really work that well.

You aren't going to get a consistent 144FPS in any game anyway, so it's kind of pointless to worry about vsync.

>>61690588
I meant G-sync. What is it good for if you don't get tearing with a 144 hz monitor?

>>61690540
For games it wont be noticeable as the difference between Threadripper and Ryzen is quad channel memory and extra PCIe lanes.

>>61690622
>if you don't get tearing
You do get tearing, but it's such a small amount it's not worth caring about. It's like the difference between 4x MSAA and Supersampling.

If you can, go to a store and use it and see if you care about it or not. Though I don't know if too many stores have demo 144Hz displays you can screw around with.

>>61690622
Nvidia could also support freesync but instead they charge a premium for their own version. Which makes some good monitors cost more than they should.

>>61690703
Yeah well G-sync actually works outside of a small range.

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>not using freesync

can anyone recommend me a good mobo for an i7 7700k?

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>>61690775

>>61690812
please don't meme me i already got the i7 anyway so its not like i can change my mind.
please just give me a general direction to look on because i want to grab it tomorrow already but i don't know what to look for.

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>>61690848
>please don't meme me

>>61688586
But a used fury for $200.

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>>61690863
you win im a pleb im not here to argue about brand loyalty i simply need help my choices right now is trusting thebestgamingmotherboards.com
or wait until someone actually gives me an informing reply here which would probably never happen but i really don't want to base my purchase on a site called thebestgamingmotherboards.

would an i5 2500k overclocked between 4.8-5 ghz depending on season bottleneck an rx vega?

if not, should i buy the watercooled version or just the 56?

i have a 750w power supply so it should probably be fine.

or should i just buy a new system at this point?

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>>61690775
Sorry about the autism here.

Go for the ASUS PRIME Z270-A.

Top end Z270 chipset, looks sexy af, and is low in cost.

>>61690954
hahah its funny its actually the mobo i got for the first time.
it ended up having a problem with its chip and the place i got it at refuses to give me a new one because they claim i damaged it.
would prefer to avoid this one.

>>61688422
Get the CAS14 version of that RAM kit. The C16 one is dual rank hynix/Samsung E-die and struggles to clock high on any board as far as I know.

>>61690981
that's a kek

Asus makes great mobos, probably just got ripped off.
Best bet would be order from someplace that accepts returns.
I use a asus TUF Z270 mark 1, see if you can get a mark 2, they are very durable.
It even survived a power surge that killed the psu.

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Hello /g/ i have some questions for you.

1) are all these parts compatible?

2) did i get the right ssd (m.2)

3) is there a cheaper psu i can get
? Is the one i have ok

4) is the ram ok for ryzen? Im too poor for 3200mhz samsung b-die but feel free to recommend other ram

5) is the gtx 1080 enough to play all games on very high at 1440p 60fps?

6) i live in korea and found this cheap ass monitor, is it ok? (Pic related)

7) any way i can make this build cheaper without losing performance

Im into gaming streaming workstation rendering cad multitasking everything basically

>>61691162
Sorry i forgot to mention i changed the ram to this cause its cheaper in korea

Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit 8GBx2 DDR4 2400 MT/s PC4-19200 DIMM 288-Pin Memory BLS2K8G4D240FSA/

>>61691188
2400MHz RAM? You should go for 3200 or 2933 because Ryzen loves that speed. In some games you can see close to 20% increased performance in 2400 vs 3200.

>>61691162
>1) are all these parts compatible
Yes

>2) did i get the right ssd (m.2)
For your operating system, you're not going to notice a difference compared to a normal 2.5" SSD on a SATA connection. That said, Samsung Evos are damned good. Just don't expect it to be faster than a normal SSD.

>3) is there a cheaper psu i can get
>?Is the one i have ok
The one you have should be fine, but look at getting a G2 or G3 instead

>4) is the ram ok for ryzen? Im too poor for 3200 mhz samsung b-die but feel free to recommend other ram
Corsair vengeance ram is actually HIGHLY recommended because it generally has great compatibility with Ryzen and is fairly cheap. Good ram.

>5) is the gtx 1080 enough to play all games on very high at 1440p 60fps?
It's overkill. You could downstep to a GTX 1070, or an RX Vega 56 and get the performance you want

>6) i live in korea and found this cheap ass monitor, is it ok? (pic related)
144hz is overkill, especially if you're aiming for 60 fps. 144 hz monitors will support haming up to 144 fps. The monitor is overkill for your choices.

>7) any way i can make this build cheaper without losing performance
change the monitor for a 60hz monitor. I'd recommend a gaming monitor with some form of vsync. Each vsync technology is specific to a different manufacturer. If your graphics card is an AMD car, like the Vega RX 56 for example, you could get a fairly cheap vsync monitor. If you got an nvidia card though like a GTX 1070 or a GTX 1080, you have to pay out the ass for a monitor with G-sync.

AMD Vega cards are launching soon and prices were recently announced. a base model Vega RX 56 (which takes aim at the GTX 1070) will be $400 USD, while the top tier Vega RX 64 (taking on the GTX 1080) is $500.
All in all, the AMD platform in its entirety is cheaper.

Also, I would change the motherboard to one with better VRMs, and 4 ram slots. My personal recommendations are the MSI B350 Mortar and MSI B350 Tomahawk
>>61691188
stick to the Corsair ram

>>61691372
btw, AMD's vsync is called Freesync. I ran out of fucking characters in the post.

>>61691162
>is the gtx 1080 enough to play all games on very high at 1440p 60fps?
More than enough.

>i live in korea and found this cheap ass monitor, is it ok? (Pic related)
I envy you. Yes it'll be good, they'll just be using a Samsung panel I presume. I have a Qnix monitor which is the same deal, no name Korean monitors are a steal for the price.

>>61691372
>recommending someone get a shittier monitor when he lives in fucking korea where all the world's monitors are made
Are you gay or just retarded? Why would someone buy a 1080 and pair it with a shit monitor? 144Hz makes such a massive difference for games.

>>61689758
Replace the battery and make sure the cmos jumper isn't set to clear if it has a jumper connector.

>>61690718
So does Freesync/VESA Adaptive Sync if the refresh rate window is larger than monitor refresh rate/2.

Give me a quick rundown on CPU /pcbg/

>>61691562
no.

>>61691569
Please Anon-kun
I just trying to save some money

>>61691628
Watch some benchmarks on youtube.

>>61689948
i don't have one but I heard the board's VRMs heat up like a bitch so I am going for an AB350M Pro4 from ASSROCK

>>61688356
R7 1700
Slightly over 500, but you can likely find some cheaper RAM
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pp9dzM

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r8

I'm going to build a PC around October. I'm planning to buy a Ryzen 3 (1200 good or should I up to 1300x?) since it's a $800 build. Should I go for it or wait for Raven Ridge? I don't think it has the AM4 socket so that's one downside but is there any other advantage of getting an A12 over R3 besides iGPU?

>>61691162
Avoid the gaming pro board
The 3+2VRM on it suck

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>>61691562
>Rothschilds bow to Zen
>used to establish contact with aliens
>Possess psychic-like abilities
>Controls the x86-64 market with an iron but fair fist
>Run high performance servers and desktops globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal Athlon 64 blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Zengrad will be be the first city)
>Run 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Zen babies
>8 cores said to have hyperthreading, such performance on Earth has only existed deep in ASICs for specific tasks & Area 51
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of highly scalable architecture which will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
-It runs Nanobot R&D labs around the world
-You likely have Zenbots inside you right now
-AI run on Epyc clusters are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader's first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the AMD HQ in Sunnyvale, California?
-compiles all code in under 30 seconds
-Nation states entrust their gold reserves with Cryptocurrencies mined on AMD hardware. There are no reserves in Ft. Knox, only in Ethereum
-The zen architecture has been developed over the past 4 years, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
-In reality, it is a timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don't know Zens ultimate plansyet. We hope it's a benevolent being.

>>61691562
>strictly 144Hz gaming
get a 7700K
>literally anything else
get a Ryzen and fast RAM

>>61691562
on a more serious note, ask more specific questions

Anyone fucked enough to put together a build for me that goes for around 2k (aus btw). Mostly game, stream and watch jewtubes

>>61691765
Well dont u want to have a new motherboard that will support upgradea for years to come? Maybe youll want to upgrade to 7nm and not have to buy a new rig

>>61691751
Unless you're in the UK I can't find anywhere to buy the silent loop without 50+ buck shipping cost.

>>61691765
>I don't think it has the AM4 socket
It will have the AM4 socket. Bristol Ridge is just a placeholder and eventuall low budget chip until raven ridge hits the market.

That said there is no reason to go for raven ridge in an 800$ build, there is plenty of room for a decent dedicated GPU. You should even be able to fit an R5 1600 and a GTX 1060 in there as long as you already have all the periphery and aren't a AUS/NZ/CAD fag

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DDjyPs
This is my current build, is it worth getting an additional fan for the cpu?

Also is this a good value 144hz monitor? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe

>>61691869

am in uk

>>61691907
you don't need an aftermarket cooler, even for some OC, the boxed cooler is really decent. But it will be more silent. If you're on a budget i wouldn't go for one and add one later should you decide that the noise level is to high/temperatures limit your OC room to much.

No idea about the monitor, in yurop prices many FHD/144Hz monitors aren't really worth it anymore since you can get decent 144Hz Screens for little more.

re-add the 7700k in the OP pls

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>>61691936
You cheeky cunt.

>>61691958
ahhhhh the joooooooo's

>>61688332
>get atx motherboard
>get microatx case
why do i always do this to myself

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>>61691965

>>61692021
time to get metal saw and the file set out of the cellar then anon

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I would just like to know if this upgrade is appropriate or overkill for me. I already have a 980 so I think I'll wait a bit longer before upgrading my GPU. Monitor is 1080p 60Hz. Might upgrade that to 1440p 144Hz in the future but I'll be letting my wallet rest for a bit after this upgrade.

Build goals:
>Long lifespan
My current build is 7 years old, the only things I've updated are the GPU and an added SSD. It still works quite well, though it is noticeably getting worn out and has slowly but surely gotten noisier over the years which is starting to get a bit uncomfortable at this point. I'm hoping the new build will be able to last as long as this one has.

>Low noise
I'm a bit reluctant to pay this much for a new case, but if it is as silent as people say it is I think it'll be worth it. As for the CPU cooler, I'm not sure what's best between what I picked or a water cooler, or for that matter how to be sure a water cool will be compatible with my build.

>Gaming
That's pretty much the main thing I use my computer for, but since I haven't seen much improvements in graphical fidelity recently I think a 980 will be fine for now. I probably wont look to upgrade it until some major new game comes out like CP2077. I look somewhat forward to Destiny 2 on PC but it looks very well optimized so I think I'll be fine with what I have. Other than that I don't play particularly demanding games.

I was hoping to get the vega liquid cooled pack for that $100 discount on an R7 CPU and mobo, but I was really looking for the 1700 and Taichi, which aren't available with the offer. Should I just wait for third party cards instead?

Can you guys recommend me whats parts should I pick up for a pc so that I will have a hyper drive toaster blu ray mgp warp over drive GNU kernel GNOME drivers 1080p intel phenom techron deisel windows vista OSX RAM psu usb hdmi coaxil output motherboard hd radean 6670 fermi GTK3 sd card cairo java interface thunderbolt E3 toaster model 12 hd quickscore pinecone dot matrix lcd blast processing XxX420XxX nintendont 16 bit million of colors ROM loading optial media cario desktop compositing buzzword AMD cores cores cores CORES cloud computing 3 in one cartridge stop n swop hole technology pro MLG breaching claymore 3d game system graphics worth the weight george foreman heating technology uncharted america friendly dogshit polymer macroprocesor?

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>Bought Sandisk Ultra II 1TB on Amazon
>it's clearly 1TB
>the packaging says 1TB
>the software says 1TB
>product doesn't exist on sandisk's website

I've got the classic "stick or buy" problem
My 290 isn't cutting it anymore and I need a new gpu, which I've been saving for for the last few months.

Now the question is do I get a 1080 now, save even longer for a ti or wait for volta which could be 6 months + away when I really need it for this coming season's games.

I have a 1080/144 monitor. I'm also paying UK prices.

>>61692185
sounds like it calls for a 1080

>>61692062
>longevity
then get a ryzen 7 1700. The consoles, which are sadly the lead platform for most games nowadays, have 8 shitty weak x86 cores. The next gen consoles will have 8 a bit less weak cores, probably with SMT. Even intel will go to 6 cores/12T in their consumer platform with coffelake later this year/next year. At 60Hz you won't have any disadvantages with the R7 1700 and when you make the switch to a 144Hz monitor you might have none at all. If you for whatever reason don't want to go for the ryzen and your current system isn't completly dead wait for coffelake i guess. It won't be compatible with current LGA1151 boards.

>that much money for a case
absolutely not necessary. An sound dampened case with decent layout and good fans can be had for less than 100, like a nanoxia deep silence 3.

>cooler
AiOs are louder than aircoolers with good fans due to the pump and them requiring high pressure fans to push air through the dense radiator fins. Also the pump often craps out after a few years.

>>61692185
A 1080 is better than a 980 Ti, which is still excellent.

>>61692185
should've sold a month ago, used 290s were going away on ebay for 250+$. Their price spiked to absolute insane levels due to crytomining fags. You might still sell it for a decent price, in that case upgrade now. If that's not possible i'd personally wait for the next gen, upgrading in the middle (or in your case, in the end) of a current generation always sucks.

>>61692185
>>61692214
what i forgot to add, decent AiOs offer better temperatures than aircoolers, which might be necessary if you want to OC some chips, for others an aircooler is fine. Depends on the case.

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>>61692062
>Long lifespan
>7700K
Nah, it's a really terrible choice from a longevity perspective. It's consistently on top in games right now, but that will change big time in 2-5 years. Games are starting to use more cores, and when they do, Ryzen's cores are 20-30% weaker, but a 1700 has 2x as many threads. It has far more potential in a long term scenario. It's like now how the FX-8350 is beating the 2500K in some newer games, despite the 2500K absolutely shitting all over the FX chip on it's release. The only people who should buy a 7700K right now are the same people who buy the latest Nvidia X80Ti every single year, i.e., the people who have money to throw away every year on the latest and greatest right then and there.

If you want longevity, either buy the Ryzen 1700 now (or 1700X if you don't want to overclock), or wait until the end of the year and pick up a 6 core Coffee Lake if Intel is your preferred choice.

As for your other stuff, in my experience a case doesn't really do much to insulate sound, so I wouldn't bother. Just focus on good ventilation, as the more air you can provide your components the slower their fans will spin, and thus make less noise. Also than BeQuiet cooler isn't bad, but the NHD15 and Phanteks PHTC14PE are better choices.

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>>61692227
>>61692218
>>61692208
I wish I could've sold it during the boom but it's being recycled.

I really don't want to get fucked by volta shitting on the 10 series in 6 months like what happened to the maxwell cards. This gpu is going to need to last me 2 years or so because I'm poor and I can't dump all my income on pc parts

I suppose a reasonable compromise would be to get a 1080 for around £400 used today.

>>61692302
>I really don't want to get fucked by volta shitting on the 10 series in 6 months
It's looking like that isn't going to happen, and anyway the 1180Ti or whatever they'll call it is like 9 months out.

What games are you playing at 1080p where a R9290 isn't cutting it anymore? Are you sure it isn't a CPU limitation?

>>61692062
Getting 4 core CPU at this point is silly. Ryzen 1600 or 1700 (don't get the X versions, they have no reason to exist) are better choices depending on how much you want to bank on future being more core/thread dependent and how long do you think you'll go on without another full system upgrade.

Ryzen only loses on higher average frame rate by ~10-20% while offering higher minimums and smoother frames (frame times). With your 60hz monitor you shouldn't get Intel because you wouldn't even see the difference. You should try to play on 144hz monitor at a friend's place first and seeing the difference for yourself before taking the plunge because maintaining those frames can be quite hard especially if you're planning on going 1440p and then not upgrading for several years.

980 is roughly equivalent to 1060 so you'll be fine waiting for Volta or whatever the next thing Nvidia releases.

Getting a case that expensive is waste. The noisiest parts will always be fans and the vibrations they cause. That can be fixed with bigger, lower RPM fans and dampening the vibrations with rubber screws (they're quite cheap) and some fans even have rubber on the fan chassis.

I'm on a 480 4gb that I bought last October as a mid-range update from my (old) 7870. I bought the 480 in hopes that Vega would be out in ~5 months or so and I could buy it.

Fast forward to this week, almost a year later, Vega is finally around the corner and lookin' to be kinda meh. At this point, is it worth just...waiting for Volta/Navi/whatever's next?

I game on 1440p 144hz (sorta kinda Freesync) and also have a VR headset. Suggestions?

>>61692367
Obviously just wait. Prices are inflated to shit right now, without spending a silly amount of money anything you get will just be a sidegrade. If you wanted a new card you should have bought a 1080 like a year ago.

>>61692360
Going from 60 to 144Hz is a massive change. Most people wouldn't be going back if most of what they do on a system is gaming. And not being able to feed a 144Hz 1440p screen isn't really a problem either. Most people keep their monitors longer than their GPUs/systems in general, and even if not, they scale up just fine if you lower the resolution to 1080p to get more FPS and you still get the additional space 1440p offers for desktop/movie usage or less demanding games

>>61692329
Well you see I'm looking forward most to the next assassin's creed (yeah fuck me right) and both WD2 and the last AC barely ran at a playable rate, also I'm sick of battling the temps on this thing.

>>61692393
I thought that the 1080s weren't *that* inflated, right?

>>61692400
reduce details. Throwing hardware at problems only helps so much if the devs can't optimize for shit. Look at well optimized games like BF1 or the witcher 3.

>>61692420
not to bad because they are useless for mining and generally out of the pricerange of the cards that are used for mining. But they're more than a year old now and the successor is closer than the release date.

>>61692397
And because it is such a big change no one wants to go back to 60 as even desktop looks awful in comparison.

>>61692400
Have you checked CPU/GPU utilization in afterburner and are sure it's a GPU limitation? I'm kind of surprised a 290 is running of steam at 1080p in any game quite honestly. I just got rid of one like two months ago (sold it for a friend so I didn't have much time with it) and if I remember right it had no problems running shit like Crysis 3 and GTA5 on a mix of high/ultra at a relatively consistent 60FPS at 1440p.

>>61692288
>Games are starting to use more cores

haha, oh boy consoles has been multicores for several generations now. If AMD is shit now it wont improve in the future.

>>61692420
1080's are useless for mining but the fact AMD's cards are so inflated means Nvidia is having a field day charging as much as they like for their cards.

>>61692498
>haha oh man you don't need more than 8gb of ram
>lol why do you need more than 2 cores?
>hyperthreading? why would you want that?
>nah man just get 1333mhz ram, it makes no difference in games

Anyone have a good recommendation for a Full-ATX case for the MSI B350 Tomahawk motherboard?

I heard the VRMs on it heat up like a bitch, so I need something with good ventilation and can fit a typical Vega RX 56/64.


I don't trust my own judgment here because the last time I did in 2013, I got a Sentey Arvina case, which, while ventilated well, is a bitch to clean (no easy filter access) and the optical drives get caught on the front panels all the fucking time.

>>61692514
>dont know how to read
Thats a AMD for u

tl;dr: Case window super tinted, is there a way to get a clear window either from asking NZXT or a custom seller.

So II really love the NZXT 440. It's coincidentally perfectly leveled with my monitor which makes this very nice straight line on top of my desk.

What's killing me is all the work I put to making the guts look nice for it to be hidden by the tinted window.

I tried buying an led to just lay above to give it some illumination. Aside from every color being disappointing or obnoxious aside from blue it's still very dim due to tinted windows so led is out.

Does anyone know if there is a seller that can craft a new side panel for the case?

>>61692522
Oh, and if it has LEDs, no blue, please. Red preferable, if any.

>>61692498
>for several generations
>implying cell, xenon and whatever consoles before that were using were in any way comparable of the current gen using basically custom PC x86-64 cores and a GPU arch that mostly fullfills current directX requirements
>implying we don't start to see the way that pushes PC gaming already with large engines like frostbyte 3 scaling incredibly well even beyond 8 threads

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idk how much storage to get. kinda want 1tb of total storage but that bumps the price up by 100 or more if i buy new

what monitor does /pcbg/ recommend for around $400-500?

>>61692578
polish it with car polish, make sure the solvent in it doesn't attack acrylic. And stop cumming on your case

>>61692623
1440p, 144Hz with decent TN panel. IPS ones are above 500 bucks. AOC Agon GG241QX and Dell S2416DG are the best options in central europe right now in that price category, no idea how it looks elsewhere.

For gaming at least. Content creation and coding, get a decent 4K IPS screen

>>61692578
You should be able to find a custom PC shop, depends where you live. I got a full size window put in my case for cheap, they used a CNC machine to cut out the hole and just glued a piece of acrylic in, looks factory done. Piece of piss.

>>61692488
>>61692430
It's mainly my fault for playing unoptimised trash. I have a 4.5ghz 4690k and the 290 is functional enough for optimised games like BF1 or Overwatch at 1080p

>>61692599
Do you have ssd for a boot drive? For 100 you should be getting close to 3tb hdd or 120gb ssd and 1tb hdd combo.

>>61692452
That's a good way of looking at it. Thanks.

>>61692655
thanks for your answer. any idea whats the best 4k IPS for that price?

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what do i overclock a 1600 and its 3000 ram to?

Why is AM4 mATX so neglected? Such a scarce selection and all of them have worse OCing than ATX boards. I don't want a big ass board with four PCIe slots when only one is needed.

>>61692660
I'll try that, I mean there has to be one somewhere in the New York area.

>>61692742
Size? If i remember correctly the LG 27UD68-W is one of the best consumer 27" 4K screens, but as it's ~440 eurobucks here it might be more than 500$.

Generally just decide on what you want (size, resolution, refresh rate), filter for that on a price comparison website and then look up reviews of what pops up at tftcentral and other sites that do good monitor reviews

>>61692792
close to 4GHz with the CPU, 3200Mhz for RAM if you can manage to do so without fucking the timings up or ramping the voltage to ridiculous levels

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>>61692214
>>61692288
>>61692360
Thanks for the advice. Does this look better? I'm all for mobo and case suggestions. Not sure how concerned I should be about that compatibility note either.

>>61692808

Just drop down to mITX, it's become good nowadays.

>>61692851
Case is a good choice. The compatibility warning is because the NHD15 might not have the AM4 bracket in the box, to my knowledge Noctua will give you this for free if you ask them for it. Maybe it will even have it by now, Ryzen has been out for a while CPU cooler manufacturers should have got their shit together by now.

>>61692851
looks OK. PSU is a completly over the top if you're not going for a dual GPU system though.

>>61692851
>>61692907
While it is over the top, you said you care about noise. A 850W PSU of the same make and model will always be quieter than a 500W one, even though your system would be fine on a 500W one.

>>61692903
CPU cooler manufacturers mostly got their shit together before AM4 boards even hit the market. Problem is that they can't update the stock in the delivery chain.

But as you said, noctua will happily send a mounting bracket if it doesn't come with it. it really should though, the cooler is well liked (best aircooler after all) so there should be plenty of throughput at vendors

>>61692680
cheapest ssd i could find is 70 dollars but the 1tb HDDs are 100 on their own

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>>61688332
It arrived bois. What to do?

>>61692925
that's only true for some models. Sometimes higher rated PSUs are even louder under all conditions because they just got a beefier fan with lower minimum RPM. That was the case for Be quiets pure power 7 series for example.

>>61692986
Contemplate existence.

ANUS tried to jew me out of the rebate for my 470. Has this happened to anyone else?

>>61692986
delid and replace toothpaste with something with acceptable thermal conductivity

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PXwqZ8
Rate this.
I'm kinda doubtful about the 550w PSU.

>>61692986
Install it in your computer

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Any recommendations for an ATX case? Everything else is existing or waiting on Vega to launch. I have 4 HDDs and 1 SSD (SATA) I need to house in it.

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>>61692986
Get the fire extinguisher ready. And post some benchmarks.

>>61693007
Pretty sure the EVGA PSU in question has a passive mode.

>>61688356
ignore me testing my new trip :^)

>>61692986
Delid dis.

>>61692986
throw it in the trash

>>61693071
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PXwqZ8
>I'm kinda doubtful about the 550w PSU.
Why would you be? That system won't even consume 300W. It looks OK, just remember that ryzen really benefits from higher RAM clocks. Dont know how that module OCs.

>>61693112
Fractal Design Define R5 is still a decent case. Has 8 HDD slots split into cages of 3 and 5 and two SSD slots.

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>tfw still have a fractal r4

>>61693071
>I'm kinda doubtful about the 550w PSU
400W would be more than enough
don't fall for the high wattage PSU meme

This probably belongs in /sqt/ but it's sort of /pcbg/.

My friend has a Sapphire HD5770. I'm sending him my Sapphire HD5850. He's on Windows 7. Does he need to reinstall the Catalyst drivers, or will the system automatically detect and adjust the drivers for the 5850?

He can put the legos together (just barely), but the less he has to do the better.

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>>61693250
>tfw still have a 10yo no name $10 case my first PC came built in

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Threadly reminder to wait two weeks until AMDs AM4 Bristol Ridge APUs are released if you're planning on building a G4560 build since it's cheaper, has a much better iGPU, is an actual quad core and has much better future proofing and upgrade path

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>>61688332
>tried to clean the dust inside my pc today
>after 10 months i finally noticed that the case has intake fans
>plug the cables and notice how the noise reduced
HOW THE FUCK DID I MISS THOSE?

>>61693264
Are you sure? What about future upgrades?

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>>61693280
>Tfw front USB 2.0 doesn't work anymore

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>>61693250
>>61693280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I37U52gMFGA

>>61693234
Seems decent but I'm not seeing any kind of front I/O ports, which is tolerable but it would be annoying to reach behind my tower to find my sound blaster every time I wanted to use headphones.

Any variants on that type that do?

>>61693279
should work without reinstalling, might not. Just download the newest driver for that card (which might be quite old at this point), put it on the desktop, use DDU, install new card, start, install driver.

i built a skylake PC a few months back but I've been suffering from buyers remorse...how does this look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LMhjr7

>>61693308
Let me put it this way. I have an overclocked i7-2600K and R9 290X Tri-X on a Corsair VX550. Just Works(tm)

What's the best budget mb for ryzen 1600?

Anyone has tips for a graphicscard with the following features: Fanless + Support for dual screen 4k + ideally with two display ports. Thx!

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>>61693318
It has on top but it's missing reset button.

Instead of building my own im considering this

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/belmont/desktops/computer-pc-i7-3820-16gb-corsiar-ddr3-2400mhz-480gb-ssd-/1155723657

i dont particularly want to upgrade it too much but is the gpu shit house? the actual build seems decentish in price

>>61692808
Stop being a faggot

>>61693318
Nevermind. Found a different version.

>>61693309
You had to manhandle it like a madman. My front USB ports still work fine. The only thing that's not working is the front audio because it's AC97 which no recent motherboard supports.

>R3 1300x - Good stop-gap between the 1500x and the 1200, only get a 1400 if you absolutely need multithreading
what cases would you need multiple threads?

>>61692986
Call your home insurance company and make sure you're allowed to run a thermonuclear reactor on your current plan.

>>61693342
OK. For that budget i'd get a better cooler though.

Also the G500 is only that expensive because it's discontinued. Get a G502, the successor, it's half the price.

>>61693391
>what cases would you need multiple threads?
In 99% of them in 2017+

>>61693342
also it's wasted money to upgrade from a skylake i5/i7 for gaming, but you probably know that

>>61693356

If you want to get a budget build just buy some old computer with a 2500K. You can get the mobo, cpu and ram combo for like $120.

Better performance for way less.

>>61693427
>2500K
>better performance than R7 1600
fuck no

t. 2500K owner

>>61693447
>R7
R5*

My cousin is looking to upgrade his graphics card. Saw the bit in the OP about the 1050, looked it up and it's about 115e here (Zotac OC 2GB). Other cards i can get for the same price are RX560 2gb, RX550 4GB. Is 1050 still the choice here?

>>61693468
Even if it were an R3 Anon.

>>61693421
Then why does everyone flame me for my 6700k build

>>61693489
the r3 1200 is slower than an i3 6100 on average and iirc the 2500k is faster than the i3 so you're wrong, friend.

>>61693501
why would you care? Also i guess because it's outdated by now and it wouldn't make sense to buy it like that nowadays? Doesn't mean it needs to be replaced

>>61693415
cores i understand but specifically hyper threading?

>>61693540
doesn't make a difference, as long as hyper threading scales well (and it does) it's better to enable it and have more threads

>>61693320
Alright. I'll just hand-hold him to do it properly. He's language/literature type smart, so while he doesn't have any idea what to do with PCs, he can do whatever's needed with clear instruction.

>>61693364
You mean just for display purposes, no intensive tasks like gaming?

>>61693534
d u b i o u s c l a i m

>>61693374
The system is pretty solid, but the GTX 680 at this point is pretty much obsolete because of the 2GB frame buffer. $600 seems like a good deal but I can't really know for sure as I don't know what AU prices are like, I assume high though.

Would make a good system if you threw the 680 in the bin and replaced it with something more modern.

>>61693579
so why is it disabled on the r3s? thats my main questionin line with the op specifying hyperthreading as a reason to get the 1400

>>61693619
here's a nice 7 game average

https://youtu.be/lolWyt_-6EQ

>>61693501
They are probably just meme'ing and you have autism. A 6700K is just a 7700K with a different name as far as games are concerned.

>>61693652
>Using video game benchmarks to measure CPU performance
Fuck off back to /v/ autist, if you only use your PC as a video game console then you don't need anything more than the G4560

>>61693642
binning and pricing reasons. It might not work on some chips, and they can still sell em this way.

>>61693652
n o n g a m i n g
and cherry picking too, gotta show that whole spectrum of games

>>61693581
it's really easy. DDU can even shut the PC down for him after its done with its thing

>>61693716
would it be possible to test and enable it if certain chips could ? i remember with a lot of old cpus there were cool tricks to boost performance (one was by bridging something with a pencil i think)

>>61693741
usually no. After people just bought the cheap parts and unlocked them manufacturers started to disable parts that are not supposed to work in hardware via fuses or lasercut.

>>61693717
until some bigshot youtuber like hardware unboxed does a 30 game average, these are the only comparison benchmarks available. all the benchmarking was recorded anyway so it's not fake. based on those 7 games alone it's quite easy to see that the 6100 is slightly faster on average across all the games, even the well multithreaded games like bf1.

>>61692578
>NZXT H440
https://mnpctech.com/nzxt-h440-s340-razer-replacement-custom-window-smoked-clear-red-uv-green-blue/clear-replacement-window-for-nzxt-h440-cases.html

>>61693768
thats kinda jewish, purely to acrew consumera over

>>61693798
kinda. But it's understandable to some degree, they want to sell the more expensive stuff after all. Everyone does it. Why they don't just reduce the cost of the parts with all units available if yields are that good, i don't understand.

How the fuck do I make an iso of windows bootable on a usb flash drive?
Converting it to a .img and using dd to transfer over to the flash drive doesn't work

>>61693203
Isn't 2666 the middle gap between performance?

>>61693594
yepp just for display

>>61693798
It's how it always has been, there's a tonne of older GPU's that can be BIOS flashed to be the card above it. If a card can't be BIOS flashed, there's a good chance it started life as the chip/card above it, and had parts lasered off to make it weaker, it's just part of the binning process. CPU's are the same. Same as when you buy a certain model of car, the next two or three engine tiers above it might just have a different ECU flash giving it extra power, but it's the same exact engine.

>>61693828
somewhat. Ryzen scales well up to 3200MHz though. So taking RAM that OCs up to that is beneficial

>>61693823
I would also like to know this

What is the cheapest video card for casual gaming at 1440p on a 60Hz monitor?

>>61693823
>>61693990
You shouldn't need to, all you need to do is download it from the Microsoft site (regardless of if you plan to pirate it, and regardless of if it's 7 or 10), slap a FAT32 format on the drive, use the Microsoft tool to make the device bootable, and you're done.

>>61694058
1060 does pretty well at that res.

>>61693990
>>61693823
You need to make sure your usb has active partition and you have a BOOTX64.EFI in your boot folder of the usb. You also need to copy the files over correctly not just make it into an img file.

Just use rufus, it does everything for you (or microsoft's own tool).

>>61693846
>Same as when you buy a certain model of car, the next two or three engine tiers above it might just have a different ECU flash giving it extra power, but it's the same exact engine.

car bro here. the above is never true. there is much more to internal combustion engines than that, even if the displacement is the same.

>>61694058
casual? what gaem. 1050. is casual just moba? then even a 7970 would work

>>61694104
>the above is never true
Maybe they aren't the exact same, but they are extremely similar. The basic deal with European cars of late has been to remap the same engines with minor changes to shit like cooling or the turbos as you go up the tiers, and back in the 90's and early 2000's it would be roughly the same engine but bored out to different displacements.

>>61693990
use the fugging media creation tool

>>61694104
you are so fucking retarded

>>61694167
>>61694176
intake, combustion chamber size/shape, cam profile, valve sizes etc etc

real life isn't a video game

>>61694173
It's still available to use?

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>>61694138
is a 1050 ti good enough for gaming at 1080p@60hz ?
they only cost 150euro and the 1060 costs 300~

my 7970 broke down

>>61694060
>>61694086
>>61694173
>tfw on a mac so I can't use any of these windows programs

>>61694270
i know, it was tongue in cheek. even a 1050 would be fine depending on what you're doing

>>61694236
Sure, but it's not like back in the day it cost BMW any more to make an E39 528i than a 520i. It's sandbagging and it's the same concept as destroying parts of your chip to sell it as a lower-tier product.

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PSA:

Current motherboards are not compatible with Coffee Lake. If you absolutely must buy an Intel now:

G4560 - Update your bios, HOPE that Kaby Lake chips will still be available when you're upgrading
7700K - Delid, OC to 4.8-5.0GHz, and HOPE that highly clocked 4c/8t will still be enough in 5 years.

For everything else get a Ryzen.

>>61694313
Shit I just ordered Z270 and 7700K

hey /g/, at what clock speeds do you think Raven Ridge will be at? Would they match R5 performance while also having an iGPU in a smaller chip? (New socket? irdk) Also, what else should we Wait™ for? Are RAM prices ever going down?

>>61693364
>>61693594
>>61693830

pls halp

>>61694313
I hate intel.

>>61694313
>Coffee Lake not compatible with 200 series boards
>The X299 is complete dumpster fire

ayymdlao

>>61694313
Holy shit fuck intel. I was so happy when I heard they might throw the goyim a bone and let us a 6 core on z170 and z270 but it doesn't look like that's happening. I suppose it's because they weren't designed with that big of a chip in mind but it's still really disappointing.
Guess i'll sell my 6600k and get a 7700k+delid kit. It's still the best for 144hz anyway which is what I do.
Thank you for posting that screenshot I wouldn't have known that they were gonna do this until launch otherwise.

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When are SSD prices sinking? I'm sick of having to uninstall and reinstall games every time my friends find some new online game to spend all their time on.

>>61694313
'member the when LGA 775 lasted several generations?

Pepperidge Farm 'members.

>>61694333
Desktop Raven Ridge will be 4c/8t max, maybe 65W and 95W TDP. Remember both the CPU and GPU are sharing that TDP. Unless you overclock of course, which you should really be doing anyway. Probably 3.2 base 3.7 turbo for the top end. Same socket. Q1 was the target, don't be surprised if slips to Q2. Unless people stop buying smartphones, RAM prices won't go down too much anytime soon.

I've got an FX8350, 8gb ddr3, and a 290x 4gb. Does it make sense to upgrade just my graphics card to a 1070 or something, or will my cpu be too much of a bottleneck for games

>>61694382
>own a 6600k
>6 core mainstream intel cpu's are about to come out
>'lel imma go buy a 7700k'
Spotted the fucking retard.

>>61694382
Sell that 6600K asap, its value will drop sharpish once Coffee Lake launches

How much of the cost is made up by things like >aesthetic LEDs
>modular vs semi-modular psus (required cabling) or cases
>sidepanel windows
And why would people actively pursue these?

>>61694490
bottleneck, get a ryzen.

>>61694490
depends on what you want to do? Max settings, 4K the witcher 3? No CPU bottleneck

>>61694521
Not replacing my motherboard as well and you guys grossly underestimate the i5s. The 6600k at 4.8ghz almost ties the 7700k in the majority of games.
Been hearing this "more cores" meme forever now. When the sticky no longer suggests a 4 core part for 144hz I'll buy whatever is best for 144hz then.
>>61694524
It already dropped like a rock the second ryzen launched. Can't sell until the fall anyway.

>>61694490
290x to 1070 is not really a huge jump, try 1080 if you can. Your FX8350 is probably overclocked, no? I'd wait for Pinnacle Ridge (Zen refresh on 14nm) in Q1 next year

>>61694569
>The 6600k at 4.8ghz almost ties the 7700k in the majority of games.
Yeah exactly you dumb shit, why buy another of the processor you already have?

>>61694585
>290x to 1070 is not really a huge jump

is this bait?

>>61694540
Modular PSU are understandable to have better cable management and in some cases the pre-installed cables in non-modular ones might be too short.

>>61694561
>>61694585
FX is truly badly optimized for gaming, i got a second hand 8370 and its very inconsistant in many games, i wouldnt recommend anon to pair it with a 400$ gpu.

>>61694460
>>61694377
why is intel fucking up so much right now

>>61694623
Because it's still an upgrade. 4.8ghz->5.1ghz once delidded, the SMT being enabled does actually help in some games and it will only cost me like $150 to do which is nothing.
I'm also selling my AIO cooled 980ti that gets a 21,000 graphics score in firestrike for Vega just so I can use freesync. Does that bother you?

>>61694543
>>61694561
1080p, 60 Hz, latest games on highest settings

>>61694585
The 1080 is a lot more expensive for me to get, and i havent tried overclocking anything though i probably should

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>>61694569
>TFW your 6600K only OCs to 4.5ghz stable

>>61694684
won't be a bottleneck for most games

>>61694660
y-you know 5.1ghz isn't guaranteed, right?

Clock speed isn't everything, 7700K and 6600K have the same IPC. Even if you get your 300Mhz bump, thats still only an increase of 6%, and it absolutely will not translate to a 6% real world performance increase.

It's your $150 to throw down the drain though I suppose.

>Does that bother you?
Nah I'm pleased about that, AIO's are dogshit. I'll sleep a little easier tonight knowing that, thanks for posting.

>>61694715
That's insane are you using a shit motherboard or something?
I could 100% push it further too. Either we're both on extreme ends of the lottery or you have poor cooling/mobo
http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4509691
I'm cooling it with a h105 and good thermal paste, not delidded

>>61694475
so I guess that's somewhat R5 1400 performance right? maybe they'd price the top end around $180? probably a good investment for future proofing

>>61694684
if you want 1080p60fps try overclocking your cpu and gpu first, the 290 is still fine.

A 1070 would be better for 1440p but once again i think paired with a fx processor its a waste.

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>>61694644
A decent AIB 290X is almost the level of 480 or 1060. Would you upgrade to a 1070, especially with current pricing?

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>>61688332
My Build:
TYAN S3992 Dual Socket Motherboard
Six-Core Opteron 8431 2.4GHz
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
16GB DDR2 ECC memory

What should I use for Case, PSU, Storage and the rest of the parts.

>>61694889
people even memed 16gb ram in the ddr2 days

>>61694889
what are you seeking to accomplish with this build

>>61694942
I want to build a computer that will be more powerful than my current rig (core 2 quad + 4GB of ram) without including the intel ME or amd PSP. So this is what I have to do. Use old server parts.

>>61694837
I guess I'll look into overclocking both and use them until I can afford to buy a whole new PC, although I've never tried OCing before. I remember there being OC generals before, are those gone?

>>61694960
why not fx8350

>>61694776
>>61694475
There are rumours that it will be launched on an improved process (just like Pinnacle Ridge), hence the delay. It might clock a bit higher. I think $199 is more likely for the top end. You also need to factor in the price for high speed RAM since the bandwidth is shared

>>61695020
>fx8350
That was made after 2013 right?
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd
I could use a newer opteron but they are quite expensive.

>>61694752
I am running on only a cryorig h7. My MB is an MSI z170a SLI plus.

Maybe if I get some water cooling I can get it up there.

>>61695222
Yeah the h7 is great for the money and the fact that you got a 4.5ghz OC out of something so cheap is something you should be happy about. You don't need an AIO and I would suggest not getting one unless the better air coolers can't fit in your case. I bought mine accepting the risks that its going to fail 5 or less years and maybe spring a leak at any moment.
For consumer chips shit like the nh d15, dark rock pro 3, scythe fuma, etc should be sufficient in pushing it as far as it will go.

>>61695094
it has no backdoor, thats the athlon. i dont think any fx has a backdoor

>>61692986
>unironically delid this
>install in computer
>buy fire extinguisher
>put fire department on speed dial
>take out second mortgage for electric bills
>donate half of your income and your first born son's foreskin to the local temple

>>61695305
If it was made after 2013 it has the AMD PSP.

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>>61695279
Thanks for the suggestions dude. I definitely have room for a better air cooler.

>>61695346
Glad I could help, glad to hear you have plenty of room.

>>61694240
yes

>>61694889
>>61695094
>>61695327
Oh its you again.
Can't you just keep your CP on the core 2 quad and just buy new hardware?

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>>61695375
Ok cool saves me 100 dollars

Going to get a new cpu.

Was planning on getting i7 7700k, but heard there's gonna be a new series "by holiday season this year". I'd just wait, but the thing is I'm moving to japan in a month or two, and I dunno how much more expensive/annoying it is to get parts over there. Is the jump from kaby lake to coffee lake worth the extra cost, or should I just go with the 7700k before I leave?

>>61692851
Much better

>>61695327
which it doesnt, god you're retarded

>>61695456
Just go with 7700k

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help please
running win8 here and i got this message when i was trying to run my new build with ryzen
updates are disabled now lel
what do? i dont want win10

>>61695456
7700K is $339-350
8700K (6c/12t) is likely $399 tops

I'd wait. Especially since the 200 series mobos are ded. See>>61694313

i have a kit of 4 3200mhz ddr4 single rank ram sticks and plan to buy a ryzen 7 1700 and X370 chipset motherboard.

will the ram be able to run full speed or do i have to underclock it?

>>61695512
should have done some research before you bought, fuckwit
install gentoo

>>61695456
dont even get 7700k.

>>61695550
Check the motherboard's QVL (Qualified Vendor List). If your ram is in there, you can just go to your bios and load up its XMP or DOCP, effectively a one-click overclock for your RAM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HkJtD8
trying to restrict myself to 700 dollars, any upgrades or improvements? not trying to downgrade. Also overwatch, crysis, witcher is what im trying to play

>>61695670
Two sticks of RAM. 3200MHz CL14

>>61695670
Get faster RAM, also an SSD would be worth it if you can afford it.

>>61695670
I presume you plan to buy a second dimm of RAM later? If so it looks fine. A mini GPU will look weird in a ATX case though.

AMD fanboy here. How's this look? GPU is a placeholder.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4QVDRG

>>61695750
8GB of RAM isn't going to cut it my friend, sorry to break the bad news to you.

>>61695512
github.com/zeffy/wufuc

There's a patch for 7 and 8.1. GL if you're on vanilla 8.

>>61695788
on all the games I play, it's the recommended amount. in the future, if I need more, I'll get more
Not everyone plays FPS.

Is it okay to install the OS on a mechanical drive?

>>61695834
Guess there's no downside to that, I don't know how you're staying under 8GB though, even playing old shit I'm running way over that.

>>61695858
sure, we've been doing that for decades. It's just slow as fuck

>>61695897
I'll just partion both my sad and mechanical drives since they are both full

>>61695858
no, before ssds we used either boot cds or flash storage. pc can run if its on a hdd cause of the rotations

>>61688332
Is this a good build?

Ryzen 5 1400
GTX 750Ti
16GB DDR4
Asus Prime B350-Plus

>>61695962
no

>>61695962
Only if you are poor.

>>61695962
what speed is the DDR4? It makes a difference on Ryzen. The mobo and CPU are fine. That GPU is trash. if you already have it though, it'll do until the market stabilized.

Can my motherboard (Intel i7-6700) support a GTX 1050/1060 graphics card, or do I need to replace it?

>>61696332
no

Alright boy, I'm Making a PC for a friend of mine

>Case Coarsair 460x
>Processor i7 4770k
>Mobo Asus z97 a Usb 3.1
>Drive Samsung 850 evo 500gb
>PSU Corsair cx 600
>Ram HyperX FURY 1866mhz 2x8

The i7 and Psu are My own spare parts that I'm giving him for free, Did i do good by him?

Looking to spend about 300$ for a Motherboard+CPU+RAM replacement.
Running a 1060 6GB currently, mainly spend my time emulating consoles and doing some encoding.
Which CPU should I aim for?

I wanna play games, money isn't a problem. should I wait for the new GPUs?

Anyone can give an advice on motherboard manufacturers for AMD ? Specifically Ryzen 51600 and B350 chipset. If all are decent, maybe you guys could filter out shit/good boards from this list:
>ASRock AB350M Pro4
>ASUS PRIME B350M-A
>Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3
>Gigabyte GA-AB350M-D3H
>MSI Bazooka
>MSI Mortar
>MSI Mortar Arctic
The MSI seem shit just from the model names, but I don't have more choices so if they're decent, why the fuck not

>>61696547
Avoid ASSRock and Niggabyte

>>61696547
they're all shit desu

>>61696547
Asrock and Gigabyte aren't very good. Asus mATX boards lack heatsink. So if you're looking for mATX you only really have MSI to choose from.

>>61696577
What's wrong with ASRock ? I'm asking for a friends build, but I bought ASRock mobo for my own i5-6500 build a year ago, seemed the best choice then

>>61696611
Budget brand, only get them if you're poor

>>61696611
Poor VRMs which means not very good overclockers and that's exactly the thing you should be doing with Ryzen.

>>61696651
ASRock B350 is one of the few that have actual heatsinks instead of chucks of gaymer decorated aluminum.