/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

Why is the magicforce so popular? Should I get it as my first mechanical keyboard?

I'd like to get something white/aluminum.

>>61686302
Oh shit. Is that a modded uni board or did they do a limited run of ssk's?
If it's a mod then it looks pretty damn good.

>>61686381
>cheap
>above average build quality
>several different form factors from 65% to full size
>comes in a bajilion different switches from goate/outemu, gateron, cherry, and at one point even zealios.

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Update from previous thread. I have found a source for japanese non-dyesub keycaps. Now I have to buy them somehow. I've sent the email to the company. If I hear back I'll let you guys know how it works out.

pic unrelated.

>>61686399
Its a mod. The instructions are in deskthority

>>61686427
Are they double shot or pad printed? I don't mind if its ABS, as long as its not pad printed.

>>61686302
I really, really wish Unicomp would just produce this.

>>61686434
Ah, I figured. Ive thought about trying to do that mod for a while.
I have a spare model M laying around, I think I'll look into that guide. Thanks.

>>61686443
doubleshots.
pbt (I'll never buy abs again)

cost is unreal too. I've seen it listed for around $30 USD. I'll be happy if I get it shipped for $60 in total. We'll see how it goes.

>>61686469
Good luck anon. Keep us posted, I'm interested.

>>61686434
Link? I could only find the guys blog about doing it.

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>>61686302
Hello guys, my first post here, so let's hope this goes well ;)

Here it is:

It only cost me 8£ brand new. Why is it good you ask? I shall tell you.

Well, first of all: this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today.

It is a rather common keyboard, yes; but because it is a Logitech, somehow it doesn't feel cheap. It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one. I don't know, Logitech has always made me feel comfortable with cheaper products.

The keys are superbly well distributed, and your fingers won't touch the surrounding keys like some other ones I've tried. The keys are also not very soft, nor very hard to press down on. You know, this keyboard makes it just right, so that you can actually take advantage of the impulse that the rebounding keys give you.

This keyboard makes you feel like gravity is actually working WITH you, rather that against you.

Another thing I absolutely love about it, is the space bar. It is just the right size, and not too small or too big like on some other crappy keyboards from other manufacturers. The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design.

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2017, people.

I could be here all day, but in the end, I just wanted to share with you my experience with this marvelous piece of peripheral engineering.


I recommend this keyboard to anyone.

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>Budget
<$150
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
Not sure. Tried blues and not sure I like them. A little too hard to press down in casual typing/gaming.
>Layout
ANSI I guess.
>Form factor
No preference. I want media keys though (vol and play/pause).
>Backlight
RGB
>Previous/current keyboards
Used chiclet styles for years and years. Bought a Leopold FC750R with blues and just not really feeling it. Lack of media keys and the pressure I need to press down to type are kinda hurting my hands. Maybe I just need to invest in an ergonomic keyboard tray? Not sure.

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Should I bolt mod my Unicomp 104? Is it just a reliability improvement or does it make it feel better to type on?

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>>61686467
There are all sorts of mods.

>>61686512
No. The keys get stiff after a few months of good use. The space bar WONT STOP FUCKING SQUEAKING.
These two are a big enough problem that it overshadows all the positives about it. It comes so fucking close to being a 10/10, but ends up being a 3/10 with glaring flaws.

>>61686469
Link to set plz

>>61686427
where

>>61686578
He's lying. Its laser etched sub legends, but at least its not pad printed.

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On the subject if unicomp, here is my slightly dirty unicomp battleship

>>61686606
How come your mom lets you have all those F keys?

>>61686512
you soudn like a fga

>>61686302
>>61686553
I heard making a Model M SSK is as easy as cutting that shit up then folding the membrane over, why does that guy's guide say a bunch of shit about wiring?

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>>61686486
>Good luck anon. Keep us posted, I'm interested.
yep, will do.

btw, here's the best pic of the set I could find. One thing I realized right away is that whole bottom row is gonna be unusable for my current keyboard. Ctrl, Alt, Win, Spacebar... they're all JIS dimensions.

I don't have the pic of the right side but I presume it's ISO enter, kana key etc. I can basiclaly forget about fitting that part as well.

But alphas, numpad, arrows, "system" keys are all standard on JIS keyboards (from my research anyway).

Will it be worth the trouble? I think so. I'll find some other cheap black PBT set with no legends and just pair it up.

>>61686416
they use really rattly stabilizers though

>>61686570
>>61686578
it's a jap manufacturer that lists what they make in a fucking giant-ass PDF file. It felt like it was from 2001 (but the file is their 2016 catalog).

I managed to find it after I paid some girl on Fiverr to translate a bunch of keyboard terms for me into Japanese. That helped me find this plastics company. I then asked her to translate a page from this PDF and then translate my email to japanese because I bet they don't speak a word of English.

If I manage to buy it, I'll let you know the email and how to order it. Will I get a reply this week? Who the fuck knows.

Sit tight. I'll have an update maybe tomorrow evening.

>>61686636
I think it'll be worth it. It's something somewhat unique and for not a terrible price (assuming). They look to be pretty good quality from looking at the pictures.

What type of iDye Poly do I need to dye PBT keycaps? Is it the stuff that says its for fabrics?

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I decided not to buy a 70%.

It's too much to sacrifice.

>>61686853
What's your favorite 1911?

>>61686381
No just spring for a tada68.

>>61686636
i've looked into keycaps like this before. spent months looking, contacting etc.

got nowhere. even managed to talk to a representative from Ducky who speaks good english, he/she told me that these types of keycaps are really exclusive to japan and china.

even if you were to get them, you'll be spending a literal ton of money on shipping. it will also take months for them to get to you.

not worth the trouble you'll go through, trust me.

>>61686998
We'll see how it goes. I've deal with these sorts of companies in the past when I was buying computer parts for japanese devices. I probably have 33% chance of getting this done. I'm willing to waste some more time and money translating shit and talking to them. I think I have a chance of convincing them to sell me a "sample".

Why doesn't Plum make 55g boards?

>>61687222
>topre

My current mechanical keyboard's shitting the bed right now with USB connection problems so I'm coming here for some suggestions on reliable brands.

>Budget
$175 at most
>Location
United States
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Brown or similar
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100% full 104 keys
>Backlight
Any backlights
>current keyboard
Rosewill RK-9000 Brown

Keys that don't have the paint wear off when you play rhythm games are preferable. I heard Ducky's a good reliable brand but I'd like to hear other suggestions.

>>61687908
>Keys that don't have the paint wear off when you play rhythm games are preferable.
You want PBT caps then, bud.

>Budget
<100€

>Location (continent at least)
Italy - Europe

>Preferred switch type
Tactile - blue(?)

>Layout
US - ISO

>Form factor
tenkeyless

>Backlight
don't care

>Previous/current keyboards
ajazz ak33

I want a slightly larger mech keyboard for work, it doesn't need to be backlit, but it has to have the menu button, don't know what it's called, the one that does the same thing as the right click.

If I can get also PBT keys while still staying in budget, that would be great.
If it has a detachable cable, that would be great as well.

>>61688041
forget it, I meant ANSI, not ISO

>>61688041
Have you looked into the Easterntimes I500 or were you after something nicer? It fits your requirements perfectly minus the PBT keys.

>>61688156
This. Also you can get cheap-ass blank PBT caps for $20.

The right-click button can be emulated using autohotkey I'm pretty sure

>>61688616
I'm pretty sure it has the right-click button anyway.

>Also you can get cheap-ass blank PBT caps for $20.
Where? You better link me up to that son.

>>61686302
Buckling spring membranes are overrated, capacitive buckling spring is where it's at

>>61672352
what keyboard is that?
I'm looking for something smaller but I'm not sure if I can go without the numblock

>>61688669
Some anon posted his budget build one or two threads ago. Search on aliexpress I guess

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>>61686504
Pls respond.

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What is best non-/CSG/ 65%-75% kit with only backplate, circuit board, and mx compatible top plate that supports 3mm LEDs, and has open source driver in C?

>>61688997
Tada68 kit or KBD75 kit from

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keyboard

>>61688156
>Easterntimes I500

I actually got that from amazon together with the ajazz, but it had a defective cable. Other than that it was great.

I was wondering if I could do better, but I guess not. I'll get that again, then.
Thanks

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>>61686302
I asked last thread, but that got no where.
Since Cherry reds are scratchy and kinda shitty, how do Razer yellows compare to Gateron reds?
Not taking price, product, brand reputation, build or anything into account, just purely switch vs switch.
Greetech vs Gateron.

The reds I have and the yellows I've felt in store feel strikingly similar.

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What's up with magicforce and drevo Excalibur pricing for their black variants? The black ones are in far lower supply and also way more expensive.

>>61689289
How is kdbfans? Never bought from them, but it seems like looking from the archives people get some issues with them.

>>61689788
those people are dumb, kbdfans are the best budget supplier

>>61686569
I used one for like, 5 years straight before. In terms of membrane keyboards, they're right up there with those older dell keyboards, just cheaper.
Still a membrane keyboard.

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>>61689788
I got these keycaps from them and they were great and also one of the only sets with a 5.5u space bar. Another anon bought the same set and got a fucked up key.
They also sometimes list sets that aren't in stock and try to bait and switch you.
Overall i intend to buy again

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I know i'm a faggot for liking RGB but I don't care. I'm set till I can get something with the same layout as my Pro M but with Cherry Clears. Maybe we'll get a 96 key version of the K Type

>Budget
150€
>Location (continent at least)
Europe/Portugal
>Preferred switch type
MX Brown or Clear
>Layout
Portuguese (fuck this country)
>Form factor
105 ISO
>Backlight
yes

was thinking about getting a custom from wasdkeyboards.com

>>61688726
on 4chan I'd say buckling springs over membrane are underrated and receive unnecessary hate. They are incredible boards to type on, as are capacitive BS

>>61689788
try their brand new topre silencing rings. They are fucking incredible.

>>61689478
I mean it depends how much you want to spend. For around $20, the i-500 can't be beat. Of you want something non-budget, there are other options, like cooler master pro s or whatever that one is called

>>61689788
If you don't get chinked they're bredy gud.

I haven't had any bad experiences personally, would buy again

>>61690380
I'm the italian guy from yesterday, and I was trying to dig into the differences between all types of mechanics. Why are buckling springs not widespread? They seem cheaper and easier to manufacture than Cherry MX. Speaking of which: what's the deal with all those different designs?

>>61690992
Unicomp is made up of a bunch of retards.

>>61689787
what are those keycaps?

>>61686302
What are those meme books?

>>61686302
Literally just joined the mech master race.

My sister hates it, I love it but I need to buy O-rings.

Cheap Outemu Switches but they feel quite nice.

>>61691402
They are nice switches, the problem with them is that they´re usually inconsistent.

>>61691402
>ruining your keyboard with orings
Sad!

>>61690992
Cause patents and cause they're retards.
They haven't doing anything to improve their molds or the keyboard itself.
Think about this: we could have modern capacitive buckling springs, cause they have the patents on it, but they stick with a el cheapo membrane matrix.

>>61691415
>inconsistent
I got a keyboard with Outemu blues and they are super consistent, they all feel almost exactly the same. My Alps keyboard is way more inconsistent key to key. Maybe Outemu keys improved recently?

>>61691468
Don't know really, the last time I bought a outemu keyboard it feel a bit inconsistent for my taste.
That was in 2016.

>>61689775
Razer switches are rebranded Kailh.

>>61691571
Nah, they ditched Kailh for being too good and therefore expensive, switching to Greetech instead.

Its the Anne/Ann Pro programmable?

>>61691445
>we could have modern capacitive buckling springs, cause they have the patents on it, but they stick with a el cheapo membrane matrix
>membrane vs capacitive
What difference does it make anyway?

>>61691440
Why would they ruin the keyboard?

Damn pressing tab feels fucking great

>Budget
$150 at Max, but cheaper preferable.
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
I've liked the red cherry switches on my current keyboard, but I'd be fine with something that probably feels similar (I've heard blues are pretty close).
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100% preferable, although I could do 80% with a good side numpad.
>Backlight
I don't really care desu
>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair K70 I got as a gift years ago from a friend that has recently shit itself. Figured going with non-vidya stuff is probably better/easier to repair if needed.

>>61691927
>I've heard blues are pretty close
All the Cherry MX style switches are the same, they just have different weight, and either do or do not have a tactile bump, and some have more of a bump than others.

>>61692088
I know. What I was saying was in terms of feel while typing i.e wight and the bump. People have told me that reds, browns, and blues all feel pretty similar.

>>61691896
Capacitive is much higher quality. The popular opinion is that they feel and sound better. They also last a hell of a lot longer, have nkro, and are easier to maintain.

>>61692153
Well, considering reds have no bump I'd say those people are retarded.

>>61692645
They're partially right though, reds and browns are so similar I would describe browns as reds that didn't pass QC.

>>61692570
Yeah but they aren't as loud, the whole point of buckling springs is to annoy the people around you.

Thoughts on the Noppoo choc mini? It'd be like 90€ with shipping, or could I do better for like 100€? Need a 75% with black switches (or similar), no fancy stuff required

>>61692672
Is there something wrong with your ears? Capacitive switches are much louder since the entire housing is made from metal

>>61691927
Go big or go home
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2098
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2108

>>61692681
then get something like the drevo calibur

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>>61692696
>Capacitive switches are much louder
Wrong.

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>>61692696
do you have any clue what you're talking about?

>>61692767
Do you? You seem to have posted an image of a Tokyo Press capacitive switch in a discussion about the IBM Model F capacitive keyboards.

>>61692741
>>61692767
We were talking about buckling springs, not topres

>>61692724
looks cool but my highest priority are the F-keys, everything else is alterable

>>61692838
made a mistake, meant the gramr
https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-84-Key-Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B01K4GXJMA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501686052&sr=1-1&keywords=drevo+gramr

>>61691069
I think those are the stock keycaps, Anon. (But I'm not that poster.)

>>61692767
I get that people make mistakes, but I'm curious as how you got topres from a discusion about buckling springs. You do know there are two different types. Buckling spring over membrane (model M) and capacitive buckling springs (model F)

I got gateron blues, but I keep bottoming out. Should I switch to MX Greens or to a tactile switch instead?

>>61692918
yeah i know the difference
i didn't spend any time reading the conversation

>>61692972
>but I keep bottoming out
So?

>>61692704
Actually, looking a bit more online, I think I tend to like the linearity of the reds. I was looking at the Plum 87 with some heavier Gateron (yellow or black).

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>>61693316
If you want linears then go big or go home

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>>61693404
can you even buy these

it would be hilarious to make my planck even more worthless

>>61693404
>150
jesus christ

>>61693438
You used to. A couple hipsters on reddit have planks with super blacks, but you can buy clones of them.
>>61693461
>150
That's nothing baby. APC greens are 280g

>>61693509
>280g
J U S T

Bump pls
>>61686533

>>61693580
If you want heavier then get 350g micro switches, or if you're to much of a pussy then get 10g saia-burgess switches

>>61691571
Ever since the release of the Blackwidow X last year, they've been using Greetech in the boards, first gen Blackwidow using kailh still and terrible QC.

>>61691591
The Greetech switches seem to have better QC than the kailh, more consistency in the feel and better longevity. Overall, they seem to be a step up.

>>61693648
>10g saia-burgess switches
Sounds like a perfect switch for
>>61693595

>>61686533
>>61693595
This keyboard might be the one for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yg3s77nAMQ

Are the model F XT models worth buying? I see them going for around $70, is there a reason why its relatively cheap?

>>61693856
well they need an expensive adapter, and shipping costs a lot due to the weight, but if you've never typed on a model M then just get the model F
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_qA5OZFJ1I

>>61693856
Because they are old and not compatible with modern computers unless you get extra things for them.

>>61693856
Most people buy them so they can cheaply mod their model M keyboards into capacitive buckling springs

I'm going on a trip to Japan next week, do they sell some quality kb stuff in Tokyo?

I mean stuff you can't find in EU or is cheaper there
No, I can't afford Topre

>>61694190
shit really isn't any cheaper. Just buy topre desu.

>>61694190
It probably won't be cheaper, but tou could probably find some rare shit you can't get here for the same price.
Theres an anon who was talking about exclusive Japanese keycaps earlier.

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>>61694190
Eh, it's certainly great for looking around, but don't expect to find anything terribly interesting. It's mostly just the regular cherry switches (e.g. no clears or greens), and Topre. Compare things with domestic prices before you buy anything unless you want to buy a JIS layout Topre board, there's probably not going to be much savings.

In any case, enjoy traveling in Japan, the food is great, supposedly everyone is racist as shit, but if you speak their language they'll invite you to a good restaurant for dinner and introduce you to their colleagues. Make sure to visit Fushimi Inari Taisha in Kyoto, and make sure to visit Kyoto in the first place.

I'm looking for a keyboard with a PS/2 cable, would rather not use an adapter, autism is the reason.

>Budget
$150
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
I like linear switches that aren't loud, so reds/blacks
>Layout
ANSI, would like a super key and media buttons.
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
They're nice enough I'd like it
>Previous/current keyboards
Plenty of membranes, Wyse terminal keyboard with blacks (I missed my super key), Corsair K90 with the huge fucking macro key shit (was annoying), Logitech G810 Orion.

I'd really like one with native PS/2 if anyone knows any.

>>61694454
Thanks! I only speak a little bit of japanese but my teacher is coming with us so it should be ok. We're skipping Kyoto this time, but I'll be sure to visit next time when I'm there. And I can't wait to stuff my face with whatever food I'll find.

So are there Topre on display that you can try out? Would love to feel a genuine Topre and maybe buy something cheaper. Do you recommend any particular shops near Shibuya?

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After looking at a bunch of chinkshit sets on Ali and reading the reviews, it seems that every one of them has some issues and most just look like shit.

It boggles my mind that chinks can't even properly typeset 3 letters.

And all this bullshit to save $10? Ugh.

Hope they improve over the coming years. Until then, I'm just gonna buy a $50 non-chink set that looks decent.

>>61695257
>'Ugh'
Fuck off reddit.

Recently found a At101w in an attic somewhere but it doesn't function. Took it apart and every switch I tested works no surprise. Since I can't find any scorch marks on the board I'm assuming it's the chip. Anyone have any idea where I can find a pinout for it or any info on the board itself?

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>>61686891
A slick side Les Baer or Ed Brown keyboard

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Got these chink caps today for my Turtle Beach Impact 500 (it's essentially a non-backlit ducky with mx blues don't diss). Any tips how to cover those spots where I have no correct size key (lshift, enter, "<" and "ä")?? I'm thinking of using the original black keycaps or buying some color blanks or buying "correct" ones with a "close enough" color (if I can even find).

>>61696011
>uk layout
>beyerdynamic
Disgusting.

>>61696051
Actually nordic with "standard" cap set from china :D

And actually using HyperX cloud as main headphones :D

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>>61695060
There's Topre on display in every major electronics store in Akihabara, 35, 45 and 55g, so you'll get to finger them to your heart's content.

You can get a good meal at just about any convenience store, or at those places that have ticket machines with which you order your food with. Just don't get any pre-packaged meals with chicken from a convenience store unless you have a fetish for violent diarrhea. Though raw chicken at restaurants seems to be just fine in my experience, not to mention very tasty.

As for learning Japanese; If you aren't learning 25 new words and ten new Kanji a day, then you won't be able to learn Japanese, ever. It's literally impossible.

On a more serious note, language classes are typically a waste of time and money. Go check out the /djt/ on /int/ (used to be on /a/ until some stupid mods decided to move it to /int/ for no good reason), and take a look at the guide (https://djtguide.neocities.org/guide.html). It has everything you need to get you started on the path to teaching yourself Japanese. The only thing it won't provide you with is the dedication to pull through, but I'm certain you have that in yourself.
If you don't, I suggest you quit being a pussy and starting grinding that vocab anyway.

>>61696870
Oh man Im gonna finger those Topres harder than my girlfriend on valentines day

>/djt/
Didn't know it was moved to /int/, I actually looked for it once and couldn't find it. Still, my teacher is great, she's been living in japan half her childhood and she's made a small cheap & comfy language school so I'm gonna try to support her while I can

>>61691927
Looked around more and ended up grabbing a Rantopad MXX with reds and a cheapass numberpad for when I need it. Apparently the caps suck on this, but the price was cheap, reviews were decent, and I can always replace them down the line. Thanks for the help and info guys.

>>61696011
quit possibly the ugliest keycap combo I've seen in a while. about the only caps I like are those two pure-white caps. the cream color of the other keys is ugly and those gray ones look like they're from 1997... not 2017.

what caps are those? off Ali? which set?

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>>61689810
Yeah, that's me. Got the bait and switch, although I'm happy with the set I ended up with other than the minor flaw.

At least he's a pretty pleasant guy, pic related.

>>61689788
>How is kdbfans? Never bought from them, but it seems like looking from the archives people get some issues with them.
Bought a set from him a while back. There was a fuckup and I got a wrong one. Emailed him and then he sent me the right one. No problems. Would buy again.

>>61688763
shameless selfbump

>>61697185
>>61697284
Welp, I went ahead and bought the enjoypbt weebkeys. Hopefully I don't get any fuckups.

How long do they usually take to ship?

>>61697350
>How long do they usually take to ship?
Depends on where you live and whether you picked the free option or express. I picked express and got it from FedEx in 6 days. Free shipping is like 30 days for some regions. I know that West coast in the US can get stuff faster (few days).

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>>61696870
Where can I buy weeb posters?

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>>61697780
I got the Madoka one from a friend, the other from a DVD cover, but I'm guessing that eBay, Aliexpress, or more Japanese sites have you covered, just look at the buyfag guide in the buyfag generals on /a/.

>>61695768
Leaky capacitor?

>>61695768
post pics of the electronics.

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What's a good, plain looking standalone numpad? Something that might look nice next to a KBP V60 with stock case.

I bought some new caps and instead of having the numpad caps sit in a box it'd be nice to have them get some use.

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>>61697854
That buyfag guide was a good idea thank you anon.
Why do you keep pasta on the top shelf?

Who's excited for the K-Type shipping next month?

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when you think you've seen it all......

>>61698863
That's fucking top tier, must be super expensive.

>>61698703
man that setup looks smoth asf

>>61698892
What I'm wondering is whether anyone can even make that shit today!

God-tier cap right there.

>>61698863
>TRIPLE SHOT KEYCAPS
I just watched that video too, those caps were nice. Too bad he didn't clean them at fucking all.

are the godspeed keycaps on massdrop a meme?

>>61698892
They are off old brother printers like the AX-15, 700D, and WP-760D for example.
There are some of those on ebay in good shape for like $25-$40 if you want to try to modify the caps to work on modern switches.

>>61699037
>ASSDROP
>SA
>ABS
that's like going triple-full retard.

>>61699037
Absurd hype for an extremely plain set? Ye I guess

>>61698948
SP makes tripleshot keycaps, but not for consumer use.

>>61699307
for what?

>>61699331
For whomever shelled out the money for the molds. Its ~$50,000 per keycap

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>>61698714
It's a special kind of pasta that was gifted to me by a friend. Going to make it as the first meal when my boyfriend and I move in together.

>>61699401
>$50,000 per keycap
>per keycap
LMAO. where did you pull those numbers from? your ass?
It's probably $50K for the whole set.

How quiet are Cherry's Silver switches? I'm looking for a secondary keyboard I can bring to lan parties, something like a 60% or 80% so I can maximize space.

>Budget
Under 150
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch
Silver (?) or Reds
>Layout
ANSI
>Form Factor
60 or 80%
>Backlight
Don't care
>Current Keyboard
Ducky One with Blues. I like it a lot, it's still going to be my daily driver. I just want something that is a bit more portable and convenient for tighter spaces.

WHat keycaps
go well with white backlight?

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Youll ever do opiates and type on smooth linears while listening to vaporwave?

Feels clouds man

>>61699440
The VIM keys were $20,000 per cap, and that was doubleshot

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>>61699416
wow that's pretty gay

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>>61699804
104*$50k = $5.2 million dollars!
come on man. think.
you can get molds made in china for $1-10k. each mold can do dozens of keys.

>>61699879
it is likely that whoever paid SP to make tripleshot keycaps was not intending to use them on a standard 104key keyboard.

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>>61699903
Regardless. No way that would cost that much. Whoever claims that obviously lied (probably to justify the cost and make it appear that you're getting a good deal on really expensive caps).

Watch this... whole 104 caps being made.

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Italian guy here.

On my research I've found out this keyboard exists. I think this layout is really brilliant (I'd call it an improved Model F) and I like it, but of course it comes only in fucking ANSI, and with that useless LED backlighting.

Is there anything similar on the market in ISO layout that is worth buying?

>>61699981
These molds are expensive. The molds for thr sony playstation 3 controler cost 1 million dollars, and it is estimated that cherrys double shot tooling is around 2 million. The VIM keycaps were expensive due to the complexty, and SA didn't really want to do them.

>>61700071
Unless you get custom $250 keyboards, then no

>>61700148
They're probably around $10k in china. For the whole 104 keyboard. If you doubleshot it, cost is probably $20K. For the whole set.

>>61700160
What if I suck it up and stick to ANSI? Would I be able to find something similar, but built better?

>>61700289

>>61700398
Yes, but its only like 50-80 bucks cheaper

>>61700448
That Cooler Master keyboard goes for 100€ on amazon.it: I can invest another 50 bucks if it's worth it, after all I'll use that keyboard everyday for the next years to come.

>>61700558
I forgot keyboards are expensive over there. If you want a cheap 96key keyboard you'd have to buy a kit and assemble it yourself. Unfortunately they are all sold out. The ACR96 is coming soon™ and will cost ~$180 bucks for everything.
This one is available now and supports ISO, but doesn't come with switches and keycaps
https://mehkee.com/products/96kee?variant=47768389839

>>61700807
>96
So that's how this layout is called. Good to know.
Anyway thanks, but I think I'll rule out those options (it's not that I don't know how to solder, it's just that I'm bad at it, and I don't have any equipment). Now that I know what to look for, I'll keep searching. Thanks again.

looking to buy a new keyboard is this legit

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201109&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL080117&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL080117-_-EMC-080117-Index

>>61701289
What's the point? You can get a mechanical keyboard for cheaper

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/mechanicallee-keyboards-wooden-keycaps-4-pack
>They will last just as long as standard keycaps
A bit later:
>Weight: 1.6g, compared to 1.5g for standard PBT caps

Are they implying these will last as long as PBT caps?

>>61701396
no

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Can anyone recommend a set of dark green keycaps? I can't seem to find any that aren't mint or lime green. The nuclear data set is the only set so far I've found that is sort of what I'm looking for but who the fuck knows when I'll be able to find a set for sale

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>>61701044 here.

Does anyone have any experience with Leopold International keyboards? Maybe I've found what I'm looking for, pic related, but first I'd like to hear if anyone had problems with this manufacturer.

>>61701777
leopold is a pretty reputable brand. go for it.

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>>61701777
One of my favorite keyboards

>>61699416
That's fucking gay and adorable. w2c?

>>61702189
google

>>61702189
Beats me honestly, the same friend also got me the literal face of a rabbit. The skin of the face of a rabbit.
Germans know how to give friends a good present.

>>61698863
I really would kill for Thomas's voice and his awesome recycling center.
I don't like him too much either. He's very autist about "muh vintage keyboards" and I think he is biased against new ones.
Anyways, I would love a review of the Nu Kishsaver or the Tada68.

>>61702233
>>61702286
Yes, yes, anon, I found it on Amazon. Looks like they updated their packaging to something a litte more tasteful... Perhaps not quite as immediately amusing, though!

And damn, yeah, Germans are awesome.

I guess I should also add, congrats on future movings-in with boyfriendo? Hope it goes well, and you both enjoy your first meal. :p

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>>61702515
I know exactly what you mean. I don't like him either. He comes off as a gigantic asshole and pain in the ass. He latches onto bullshit and can't understand why some things are the way they are. I never take his advice on anything because of his ridiculous biases but I watch because of old shit.
PS: Guy doesn't even know how to touch type.

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How would I move the stem connector of the top keycap, to the center Without damaging it completely unusable?

>>61702688
scissors and glue

>>61702688
Hahah... I know exactly what you're trying to do. You have a Cherry 3000 caps lock and you're trying to fit it onto a regular keyboard. Been there myself.

Plastic is fairly brittle, part is small and impossible to make the bond hold well.

I never did try it but I think breaking off the existing stem and modeling some out of Miliput and then attaching it could work.

>>61702688
I just bought a set of EnjoyPBT hyped for the stepped caps lock only to find out it's got an offcenter stem..

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>>61702753
Do you think removing the one wall then making a makeshift stem siding next to the already existing one work?

>>61702945
There's not enough space IIRC... I did measure it with calipers. You do have a point... maybe not removing the whole stem would work. You could just file down or dremel a 1/3 of it off. Then you could use some Milliput and take a blob of of it and wrap it around the old stem so it's strong and then just press it into an existing keycap (first cover it with release agent or oil) and create a new stem that way. You could also use an extra switch to press it in so you don't damage the keyboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWT9mnaUy0M

I wouldn't bother with epoxy or superglue or anything else. it wouldn't work well at all. Get some Milliput and try it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWT9mnaUy0M

>>61702945
Why not just cut off the existing one and jb weld it a few mm over.

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>>61703101
>>61703096
Alright I just cut the stem off hopefully I didn't fuck it up to bad, I'm guessing jbweld would be good to do it?

>>61703324
I recommend it just 'cause I've used it in the past and it's worked very well on plastics for me. I used it to fix a key on a keyboard where I snapped the plastic off that holds it in place, and it's help up a few years now.

>>61703324
After using Milliput, I don't use anything else. Try what you have. See if it works!

>>61702636
That's the most funny thing of Thomas. He knows more than me about keyboards and I can beat him typing with my closed fingers, and I haven't done a touch type course yet.

>>61703612
>closed fingers
I mean closed eyes. Kek.

>>61702893
Send it back

>>61698737

Don't you mean November?

>>61703612
>>61703627
Hehe. I think it's as ridiculous as taking car advice from someone who doesn't know how to drive.

You know he's a retard when he goes on an on about keyboard feet.. the most useless (and RSI inducing) part of any keyboard.

>>61699037
>XDA

No has ever used DSA and asked themselves "hmm, I wish this were higher". Ignore all flat profile sets.

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>>61703338
>>61703407
Would miliput stick to the keycap itself or would I need to glue it on

Also used hotglue fo a temporary fix and it looks allright

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How is the Gateron Clear switch? I want to try Clear for the longest time, and a local guy is willing to sell me a board with the Gateron version.

>>61704400
is the smoothest linear switch in the market.
I wouldn't use it, except to build a stenotype keyboard.

>>61698863
I'm out of the loop: What YouTube channel are we talking about here?

>>61704400
The smoothest switch, but incredibly light. If you use it for typing, you will make mistakes, but it is incredibly satisfying to use. I still think Gateron Yellows are the better linear switch though, Clears are almost too light.

>>61704388
>ditching the sushi
You disgust me

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>>61698541
Here is a pic of what I can get to right now, it would be very difficult to get the plate off otherwise I would have it off.

>>61704669
Can you post the numbers in the chip, please?

>>61704388
>Would miliput stick to the keycap itself or would I need to glue it on
it's an epoxy putty. it sticks. you'll never be able to take it out though.

>hotglue
that shit will never hold tho :\

>>61704477
>I still think Gateron Yellows are the better linear switch though,
Wit, isn't Clear supposed to be tactile?

>>61704669
do u have a DMM? put it across that resistor. it looks like it's broken.
suffered a fall maybe?
also, caps are always a suspect too. I'd replace them all first.
ICs don't go bad as other components thought. I wouldn't worry about it for now.

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>>61704757
this one.

also, reflow any cold joints.

>>61691891
Super limited through the app. Company said they might open source the software but probably nothing will come for ages.

>>61704742
No, they are linear. That's why I said that they're good to build keyboards for stenotyping.

>>61704710
Info on chip is
>S938
>SILITEK
>KKMPA80604
>H8J3BAATP
>>61704757
>>61704776
I think your right, noticed that after I took the picture, I'll try and find my DMM, check it and post the results.

>>61704721
Hot glue would work fine for test fitting it

>>61692988
typical tripfag
Filtered

>>61692972
How do you know that you're bottoming out?

>>61704742
Normal Cherry Clears are tactile but Gateron Clears aren't, for whatever reason the chinese Cherry Clear clones are called "Zealios". I almost made the same mistake of buying Gateron clears, assuming they were like cherry clears.

>>61686302
>http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG

>Budget
$125 CAD ($100 USD)
>Location (continent at least)
canada
>Preferred switch type
mx brown, romer-g, or mx speed. nothing else.
>Layout
ANSI, US
>Form factor
100%, full.
>Backlight
don't really care about RGB, but a backlight in either red, blue or white is good
>Previous/current keyboards
K120.

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any keyboards that come with dolch keycaps?

Is there a keyset that's spherical, double shot, and comes with a 1u caps lock and 2u control?
I would kill for one.

>>61705078
>>61705517
Phew, that's one bullet dodged. Thanks, anons.

>>61705011
Can I switch caps and control?

>>61691069
I think that mix of stock caps and caps from plum keyboard.

>>61706173
What the fuck kind of layout do you use

Some ortholinear memeboard?

I long for the day that some guy makes IBM beamspring keyboard replicas like the Model F is getting soon
https://youtu.be/wHyIdQ0ujQE?t=23m10s

>>61706861
I derped the measurements.
I use a Tada68

>>61707347
Ok, so your only options right now is SP - Maxkey don't have molds for 1.75u Control or 1.25u Caps Lock yet.

The question becomes, do you want to
A. overpay on pimpmykeyboard for DSA Dolch
B. wait for a DSA groupbuy to pop up, which will then have probably a lead time of at least 5 months
C. overpay massively for an SP SA or DSA set on a mech keyboards trading site
D. wait for an SP SA groupbuy to pop up, which will then have a definite lead time of close to a whole year

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What would you guys recommend for <80% non-mechanical keyboards?

I need something tiny enough to be carried, with full-sized keys, wired, and dirt cheap because it'll be all day in a bag and will take a beating, so naturally I turned to membrane keyboards. But most have meme layouts for facebook posting, with software/playback/emote keys, plain lacking critical system keys, and enough ghosting to make common shortcuts impossible.

What are my options? I spotted Perixx which from my experience with two of their mice isn't too shabby, and makes 75% keyboards. Any recommendation?

>>61707459
I'm on turbokike mode, so perhaps I will do B or D.

>>61696140
Hyperx cloud is a takstar pro 80 which is a beyerdinamic copy
You basically bought the shit copy of the shit

>>61705922
>Romer g
>100%
Canadanian shitposters have no chill

>>61708410
Meant to send to
>>61705893

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post keeb

>>61708443
>ISO
Nice memeboard you got there

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>>61708443
TADA68 master race reporting in

>>61708454
I'm English

>>61708466
You mean you are British?

>>61708487
No, I mean I am English because I was born in England. Are you having an aneurysm?

>>61708487
Are you aware that the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is actually four separate nations?

>>61708461
How does gateron blues feel?

>>61708487
Surely you don't mean to imply that "English" refers only to the language and not the people of England, old boy?

>>61708608
The people of England are Welsh, Scottish, and British.

>>61708588
Very good, i dont know why /g/entlemen bash it here, consistent as fuck
I would love to respring it to greens thugh

>>61708667
This is either the best troll or one of the most ignorant things I've seen in a long time.

Also you forgot Irish.

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>>61708516
whoa

>>61708667
Hahaha are you for real?

>>61708707
if you want to get more complicated you could add another circle labelled The Commonwealth of Nations, including the United Kingdom but not the British Islands and going way off to the side to make room for the other 51 countries in it.

>>61708707
Thank you. I understand my mistake now.

>>61708761
I saved that from wikipedia years ago because an Italian friend of mine asked me to explain what the UK meant, etc. Most bongs won't know half the info in that image.

>>61708780
I think most bongs do understand how the UK is divided up

>>61708707
The only thing I'm still confused about after this is, can Northern Irish people be referred to as or identify as British since the United Kingdom is often referred to as Britain, or not because Northern Ireland isn't actually part of Great Britain

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>>61707347
>I use a Tada68
Wait what?
>1u caps lock
>2u control
The hell?

>>61708811
The UK yes, but once I explained the UK the next question was, 'well how does that differ from...' and I was at a loss.

Honestly it's not a big enough issue in most peoples lives to care about.

>one poster doesn't like ISO keyboards so attempts to derail the thread by pretending to be retarded
Can we continue talking about keyboards now?

>>61708826
>1u caps lock and 2u control
>I derped the measurements
means
>I use swapped caps lock and control and want keycaps to reflect that, but identified them as the wrong sizes
It's not hard to figure out from context, try using your brain a bit more.

Guys, I found 40€ Magicforce 68 keys with brown Kailhs at a local store. What's the catch? I'm not seeing those even below 50€ on ali. Anything I could be missing?

>>61709323
Yeah amazon

>>61709392
They're 60€ on Amazon.

>>61709434
Not here its ~35€ for the chink shit ones
Those are the ones with gaterons

So yeah, I asked previously about this keyboard

https://www.amazon.it/KLIM-Domination-Meccanica-Digitazione-Confortevole/dp/B06XR9KG3J/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1501764019&sr=1-1&keywords=klim+domination

Outemu Blue but I've got a problem with the S key
It doesn't always happen, but it sometimes prints S two times.

I'm not sure how this is called.
Anyway, should I RMA or there's a way to fix it by myself?

>>61709473
Its called keychatter, and basically you have to replace the switch

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sup fags

>>61709491
RMA it is than, thank you.

Also the absence of a wrisst rest was killing me.

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>>61686302
I have a Unicomp 104, pls tell me how to make it like the OP's.

>>61708818
'The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland' would like a word.

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>>61709589
>having 3 HHKB
>calling us fags

>>61709828
index.php?topic=86127.0
Geekhack links are spam
So make it https:// and a .org then add the above behind all that.

>>61709901
Oh my god why does it have to be so complicated.

>>61709953
I use an Unicomp 103 Ultra Classic, and I think the mod really looks nice but I think those 17 keys are too useful.

>>61709491
Uhhh I put some contact spray inside the switch and now it's not giving me any more problems.

I guess I can still RMA the whole thing if I wanted to.

I have RSI. Are there any decent split mechanical keyboards that aren't very loud?

>>61710275
Yes
μTRON

>>61686302
what do you guys think of this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DREVO-Excalibur-Mechanical-Keyboard-Specially/dp/B01NBJX7M5/ref=pd_sbs_107_26?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=M0PXM59ZA4DYH1J4AP6F

>>61710318
looks like it's discontinued :/

>>61710351
It was discontinued this year, so there are still some places that have left over stock

>>61710275
There's quite a few decent split keybaords that are premade, but if you want membrane-tier quietness you'll have to build something yourself with silent red or black switches.There's also the Matias Ergo Pro with their quiet click switches, but I don't know how good that is because no-one seems to buy Matias keyboards.

>>61710336
why is it so expensive compared to the US?

>>61710357
none that i can find

>Signature Plastics doing more grab bags soon
Oh boy I can't wait to laugh at all the morons who obsessively refreshed a webpage so they could buy a $50 bag of random keycaps that are likely to be damaged before they sell out in less than a minute.

>>61710380
Brexit

>>61686302
testing

>>61710445
it's more amusing seeing the reddit posts of morons trying to fill out a keyboard with their bag of trash

>>61710504
>trash tripfag unironically saying trash
end yourself

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>>61710528

>>61710528
Whatever happened to the non-trash tripfag?

Guys it's just a keyboard.
Why the autism?

>>61710695
A what? Never heard of them.

>>61710445
The only reason why the became so popular is one fag on geekhack managed to get 4 SA 1976 sets with only minor defects from two grab bags. Now all the redditors gamble hoping to get as luck as him

Hello

I currently have a Redragon K552 and it gets the job done but I'm interested in upgrading to something a little higher quality for under $100 what would you recommend?

Prefer lighter touch switches that are easy to press down so my hands dont get tired after prolonged use. I game a fair bit too if that is relevant.

>>61711511
Tada68 in Gateron Red.

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How are Tai-Hao abs doubleshot keycaps??

>>61711511
See
>>61693648

>>61711590
Thin

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what's the best place to find Topre keycaps? preferably whole sets and not just individual keys...

I'd really like to find a black/darker set for my Realforce 87u.

>Budget
$150.00 CAD
>Location (continent at least)
Canafa
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX blue
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Was interested in getting a tenkeyless/no numpad, but full size is fine too
>Backlight
Only if I can dim them. I keep my blackwidow at 3%
>Previous/current keyboards
Blackwidow, using the razer greens which from my understanding are equivalent to blues

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So I got impatient waiting for my planck kit...So I decided to do a "master chief themed" Halo build
>GH60 Satan PCB w/ breathing LED support
>Tai-Hao Green ABS doubleshot set $35
>Orange anodized aluminum plate with stabilizers $23
>Black machined aluminum case $55
>3mm diffused Amber LEDs $6
>Gateron browns $30
>Orange curly USB cable $10
$183 total this will be my first actual build

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>>61712357
Here's more of the complete idea

>>61712357
Nice, was planning to do something like this for fun. Have to wait for my MD kbd75 to arrive.

>>61710336
Not fond of the font,but god am I jealous of those side-printed numbers. That's eaxctly I want, not an external or internal mech numpad.

reminder to lube your stabs

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/lube/32822951217.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWgrnQGBBn4

>>61714045
Can I use this chink lube for switches too?

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OwO what's this?

>>61714165
yeah i just did. should be about as good as any silicone grease.

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>>61714168

>>61714200
oh fuck me right after i posted i realized you were referring to switches instead of stabilizers. i didn't lube my switches. for switches you might want this one instead but i'm not sure

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pc-Fidget-Hand-Spinner-Rotating-Toy-Wheel-Cleaning-Agent-Lubricant-Jun12-Professional-Factory-price-Drop-Shipping/32815990199.html

>>61687222
just buy the 55g dome sheet and install it yourself. That's what I did.

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>>61714204
how the fuck do you even type on this
what the fuck is the point of this
what does this even teach

>>61714204
H Y P E

>>61714294
it teaches you how to type incorrectly because it's not a default qwerty layout
it's the mechanical version unlike the rubber version chryos has, it also has a slightly different layout

>>61714217
Thank you anon, I'll try out both. I hope it's not just chink piss though.

>>61714348
oh and it uses tai hao switches

>>61714348
>It teaches you how to type incorrectly
Anon, I..

>>61714477
and it's the best keyboard on /mkg/
prove me wrong :^)

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>>61714684
>When you OD on memes

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>>61714684
You posted the wrong keyboard

We need a new thread.

>>61714982
So make one

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>>61714995
I just did, BIIIIITCH

>>61715280

>>61714204
Is that an actual keyboard for Wintoddlers?

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>>61714217
kek. I bought it. even if it's a shit lubricant, it's so much cheaper than other oils. and I always have use for that shit (doors, hinges etc).

whats insane is that I'd have to pay 3-5x as much just for shipping that much lubricant. I guess chinks pay nothing for shipping to West. their way of subsidizing their economy.