/hpg/ - Headphone General

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What's the second best headphone behind the MrSpeakers Aeon?

>>61676806
Id say beats since dr dre invented the headphone

>>61676806
I heard his fostex mods at the new York audio show. I was very impressed

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

Good IEM for £50 please. I'm not very fussy, mostly for usage in Phone and Laptop

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>>61677399
Beats by Dre.

>>61677688
ZS5 with Spinfit tips

>Budget
$150 max.
>Taco Land (add around 20% to price)
>Source
Sansa Clip
>Type of headphone
IEMs
>Comfort level
Just need them to stay in place.
>Past headphones
Soundmagic E10, ATH M50

Need something I can use for my daily commute. Considering RHA m750 and Shure se215.

>>61677853
Where can I get the ZS5 in the UK without waiting?

>>61676749
I just got FX X6. It is not bad device and it sound great. Plenty of power too. Only complain s power adapter have very shot cord.

>>61677993
GR07 Bass Edition
>>61678035
You could pay more for shipping to get to you quicker. They are chinese IEMs after all.

asked around last thread and decided to get pair of ATH-M40Xs, the flat sound and detachable cable was deal breakers. hope they are durable and even somewhat comfy.

>>61677993
Etymotic MK5

>>61678425
The m50x are pretty clampy, not entirely sure about the m40x

>>61678478
suppose it's just the new material of those cushions, probably ease out over time. Can always get new pillows of course. But we'll see.

I've never tried beats. Does this thread hate them because they sound bad or just because they are overpriced?

>>61678991
Both and their build quality's shit.

>>61677688
etymotic mk5 if you don't mind paying an extra 9 quid

>>61678425
>detachable cable was deal breakers
What?

Does anyone know what the sound quality is like on Bose QuietComfort 25s?

>>61679395
i was retard, i meant that having detachable cable was one of the reasons i chose them, i used wrong words.

>>61679282

Is the Etymotic ERMK-5 just a refresh of the same thing?

>>61679518
nah that's just the full name of the product

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>>61676749
Just snagged these. They sound great.

>>61679525
Glad you are enjoying them, Anon.

How do you guys download your music? I usually download a YouTube video using a converter set to 320 kbps.

>>61680002
>YouTube
Don't use those shitty converters. Torrent, rutracker or a music distributer like their soundcloud page or SoulSeek

>>61680002
Youtube audio is 128kbps. Yes, really.

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>>61680002
>not buying audio tapes

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Are there full-sized headphones that measure better than this?

>>61679525
>>61679596
>Koss Portamemes

There was a time when /g/ recommended portapros all the time, then it switched to the m50s and now it's the hd 600

>>61680540
Audeze LCD-1s and 61671588
Now find something new to shitpost, you dumb 600 poster.

>>61680579
>>61671588

>>61680579
>LCD-1
Inferior high frequency extension.

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>>61680615
And everything else?

>>61677399
>>61676806
They are actually somewhat close to HD600 response plus sub bass judging FR wise.

>>61680663
They certainly measure very good; better than any other Audezes. It's a shame only 25 were ever made.

>>61680686
Anon asked for better headphones, I gave anon better headphones

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>>61680540
>>61680579
>>61680701
Silly geese

>>61680732
>the more poorly sealed channel of an HD600 measurement with both channels poorly sealed
>independent of direction compensation
Into the trash it goes.

>>61680732
>>61680769
Also the poorly sealed LCD-1 channel.

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>>61680769
>Poorly sealed excuse
>Again

>/hpg/ is starting to turn against the HD 600

>>61680769
>It doesn't fit my narrative so it's wrong.

>>61680820

HD600fags should have kept it to themselves.

>>61680820
>HD 600 owners starting to turn against their own kind
>>61590376

>Budget
$300
>Location
USA
>Source
PC but willing to purchase DAC/amp if need be and would welcome suggestions
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy but sound is more important
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Portapros

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>>61680864
>Mfw your average shillheiser shitposter starts attacking his fellow shillheiser fan and accusing random anons of being me without the trip.

>>61680870
Fidelio x2
Hifiman he-400i
Ath-ad1000x

>>61680870
HD600, obviously. See >>61680540 and https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/very-important-sennheiser-hd-580-hd-600-and-hd-650

>>61680904
>Falling for Sennheiser bait
Also, don't recommend Fidelio X2s as neutral headphones. They're niggerbass at best; good niggerbass, but niggerbass nonetheless.

This is a reminder that DiPolarDisorder is a shitposting troll who intentionally spreads factually incorrect misinformation such as "hrtf graphs have an inverse relationship with how a headphone should measure" and refuses to back up his claims with credible evidence because he cannot. His HRTF claim has been thoroughly debunked by:
https://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2010/05/headphone-equalization.html
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-frequency-response-part-one
http://hauptmikrofon.de/theile/1986-3_Standardization-of-studio-headphones_JAES-1986.pdf
http://vbn.aau.dk/files/227876689/2008_Hammersh_i_and_M_ller_AAA.pdf
Do not take anything he says seriously, especially headphone recommendations.
>in b4 he falsely claims he has debunked these links while refusing to link to said "debunking"

>>61680870
AD1000X

>>61680943
>MOM! I POSTED IT AGAIN! IM TOTALLY OWNING THIS TRIPFAG

>>61680870

I would recommend an HD600 and a Fulla 2. If you find the Fulla 2 doesn't provide adequate volume for your taste you can get a Magni 2 and use the Fulla 2 as just a DAC, but you will probably find the Fulla 2 adequate.

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>>61680943
>>61668546
>Personal bogeyman
This, again? Pic related

>>61680870
>>61680904
>>61680951
>X2
Bass-heavy. Not neutral.
>HE-400i
No upper mids and peaky treble. Terrible build quality and even worse customer service.
>AD1000x
Not neutral. No bass.

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>>61680988
>Fedora talk
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61680943
>H-he insulted my favorite headphone! I'm going to pretend I understand hrtf and he doesn't! P-please listen to me don't listen to muh Boogeyman!!!!!

>>61680820
It's the natural order of things, to much shitposting, shilling and/or bashing always result in a reaction of equal amounts of shitposting.
Imho it's a good thing, it clears things a little, people start suggesting more options to newcomers and for a while the thread produces debates with more depth.

This too is bound to end for a new shitposting cicle to begin, and so on.

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>>61680994
>>61680943
>I've pissed off this one faggot so much that he repeatedly shitposts in favor of his precious memeheiser hd600s while actively pretending to understand hrtf is some comprehensive way (which he doesn't) and thinks that I will even bother replying with more evidence to support my claim when he will actively deny the evidence no matter what I say and show him.

>>61680943
I automatically assume tripfags to be shitposters, so that's not surprising, but thank you for the heads up.
>>61680917
>>61680951
>>61680969
Thank you for the recommendations. I'll read up on them.

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>>61680994
>No bass
Gee, almost like something else on the list...

>>61681012
>shitposting is a good thing
>>>/out/

>>61681083
It's a nice distraction to all the Sennheiser spam and shilling

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>>61681077
>still posting that tired, debunked claim
Also, HD600 will never snap if you follow the instructions in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U

>>61681105
>people recommending quality products is a valid reason to shitpost
>>>/out/

>>61681113
>Having to follow instructions to prevent your headphones from snapping
>>61681129
>Quality product
>Not chink shit plastic

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>>61681181
Pic related

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>>61681113
>The same graphs again
Why even bother? Anything that doesn't fit in is going to be assumed as a "poor seal" anyway.

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Don't forget the join my drop gaijin, he he he

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>>61680563
For portable use and having a life-time warranty the portapro is still not bad option, besides, the three headphones you mentioned are in different price ranges.
>>61681034
Happens all the time, as it should, this board is for debating technology, not shitposting, pic related, CG would get his posts deleted all the time.
>>61681083
>shitposting shills cause shitposting reaction
>original shitposters lose ground
>more suggestions start popping up as a result
>more people questioning said suggestions and trying to back opinions with data
>shitposting mitigated
>actual debate takes place for a while before it starts again

How did you take "shitposting is a good thing" from that i will never know, but it shows how new you must be, things work like since before the first /hpg/.

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Le happy chinaman strikes again

>>61681285
Low key wanna cop. Might replace my 400is with these.

>>61681228
PC speakers always win, baby!

>>61681228
This just in: plebians enjoy bass boosted to retard levels.

>>61681285
When are these beauties being released?

>>61681364
Drop starts the 3rd. No info on shipping but my guess is it will be in your hands around Christmas time

>>61681306
They're 400i's in a 400 enclosure with Focus A pads

>>61681363
This just in, any more bass than HD 600s are automatically niggerbass.

Source: Sennheiser shill
>>61680864

>>61681285
How much will it probably cost? Would love to try something different.

>>61681385
Sounds smexy. Hope it runs for a while.

Thanks for the help, /g/. Just ordered HD600 and a Fulla 2. I'm excited.
>>61681113
I'll be sure to do the thing in that video when I get them. Thank you for the helpful link.

>>61681424
169.99 ameribux

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>>61681306
>>61681364
Enjoy your shit build quality and 2 left earcups

>>61681485
Really? Uh, that's much cheaper than i thought, might actually try to buy it and have someone send it to my country.

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>>61681246
>>61681285
Those Hifiman hinges are as fragile as Beyerdynamic hinges, that is to say, extremely fragile.

>>61681363
>Sennheiser shills unironically believe being able to compete against speakers
Sad!

>>61681519
That actually sounds appealing, i have my DT880 for about 5 years and they are fine, anything that lasts at least as long shouldn't be bad.

>>61681525
I advocate for HD600s and willingly admit that once you drop a couple hundred on quality monitors that no headphones can compete with speakers. Speaker use is obviously not practical for all situations, though.

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>>61681495
>>61681519
Can't be as bad as the Chink shit plastic the HD 600 uses, right?

will a fulla 2 be enough for the fostex t50rp iii's?

Is the Fulla 2 powerful enough for the HD600?

>>61681755
It will get it loud enough but sounds kind of thin to me

>>61681798
What do you mean by thin?

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>>61681798
>sounds kind of thin to me
>solid state amps make a difference in sound quality
>dacs make a difference in sound quality

>Budget
Around $150
>Location
USA
>Source
PC but will probably get DAC eventually
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or Closed
closed
>comfort level
Comfortable, please. My current headphones are hard to keep on for long. My ears may be small enough to prioritize sound quality, though.
>sound signature
whatever is good
>past headphones
I've used some cheaper Sony headphones before, and currently have a Monoprice set (which I think is model 108323). The best thing about it is probably the modular wire, so if I can find another set with a modular wire, that would be great.

>>61681960
The opposite of full

>>61681252
>For portable use and having a life-time warranty the portapro is still not bad option, besides, the three headphones you mentioned are in different price ranges.

Except it isn't. First of all portapros are garbage for portable use because they leak sound like shit. Other than that the sound is overall mediocre as fuck, too much bass and basically no soundstage.
I have portamemes and have had pair since they were actually considered good on /g/. Back then portapros were good because chinks didn't take over audio market yet, now there is no reason to get them anymore. Except if you are looking for retro looking headphones to complement your hipster tattoos. Or for jogging, headband is god tier for running.

>>61682133
Status CB-1

>>61681960
Lean on bass

>>61682235
>they leak sound like shit
Obviously they are meant for people who don't want isolation, makes sense for portable use for safety reasons, if you are riding a bus yeah, there are better options, other than that you are basically complaining about subjective shit.

>>61682248
Thanks!

bass needs to be exaggerated in headphones because your body expects to feel bass as well as hear it and this sensory cue is missing from headphones with flat FR

>>61682478
You're referring to the now debunked "missing 6 dB" theory: https://www.etymotic.com/media/publications/erl-0137-1982.pdf

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>>61682553
No, I'm not. I've never heard of that theory, and it requires a whole lot more air movement than pissy etymotics could ever provide

Is there any reason to download music on my phone in .mp3 besides saving space? If I want purely better sound quality should I just download in .FLAC?

>>61682627
Your logic was the same logic commonly used to defend the debunked missing 6 dB theory. Needless to say, you are incorrect.

>>61676749
REDPILL ME ON THE HE4XX

>>61682437
I'm not sure if it's still running but trying STATUS20 as a discount code

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>>61682687
It's a massdrop headphone. It's much cheaper than any equivalent headphone while offering the same performance and even better build quality, but you've gotta wait a long time to get it after you order. That being said, you'll be saving $80-100.

It's very sensitive, low impedence, planar magnetic and it measures beautifully. Honestly I'm very excited for this drop, and you should be too.

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>budget
80-100 USD
>location
California USA
>source
PC
>type of headphone
Over ear anything
>open or closed
Closed
>comfort level
Highest possible without compromising sound quality
>sound signature
Warm to bass (kinda a basstard, I've been told its a generational illness)
>past headphones
KZ ATE S and a random pair of cheap Sony headphones. I appreciated the clarity of the kz's and liked the range, the Sony ones sounded sad in hindsight and were fairly uncomfortable.

Thanks in advance

>>61682772
alright not going to buy it

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>>61682772
>HiFiMan
>even better build quality

>>61682772
What is it based on? the he400i?

>>61682808
¿Okay sounds good?

>>61682823
It looks like the he-400i driver in an even better built enclosure. Looks like they took ques from the original he-400 and upgraded the pads and headband.

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>>61682772
>that graph
>measures beautifully
>hifiman
>even better build quality

>>61682857
>>61682814
>The hd600 shitposter is mad that these headphones are cheaper than the 6xx while measuring better

Why am I not surprised.
>Build quality
>Snapheiser chink plastic.

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>>61682772
>hifiman build quality
>that giant 2 kHz dip

>>61682857
>>61682814
>Snapheiser chink plastic headbands
>Beyer shit-tier snap hinges

So basically all headphones are constructed like shit? Ooooorrrr maybe abusing any headphone makes them break?

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>>61682909
>That giant 3khz spike

>>61682936
>Ooooorrrr maybe abusing any headphone makes them break?
This is correct and the Senn/Beyer shitposting is ridiculous, but HiFiMan really does have notoriously below average build quality and customer support.

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>>61682814
>>61682857
>>61682909
These posts look oddly similar. I really wonder who could be behind them,,,

>>61682681
>standing next to a speaker array at a concert is exactly the same as listening to a pair if etymotics, as long at the in ear db measures the same
do you realise how stupid you sound?

>>61682945
That ear resonance at 3 kHz is supposed to be there on that raw measurement and your knowingly false troll claims to the contrary have been thoroughly debunked.

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>>61682945
>That giant 2-6 kHz dip

>>61682971
You're correct that they'll sound different. The Etymotics, assuming they're at a safe listening level, will sound much better: https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/loud-music-sucks

smoothed graphs are garbage, stop posting them

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>>61682958
>"Okay gang! Let's see who's really behind the shitposting spree"
>*Pulls off hd600s and ski mask*
>"It's none other than the buttblasted Sennheiser fanboy shitposter!!"
>"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that meddling tripfag!"

>>61683020
>>61683005

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>>61683020
Okay

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>>61682958
>only one person uses smug anime girls on 4chan.

>>61682772
>that sub bass roll off
This is like HD600 levels of no sub bass, doesn't look like playnar, why bother?

>>61683005
>>61683037
Wow, the unsmoothed graph shows completely different sound signatures! Oh, wait, no, it doesn't. It's almost as if the argument espoused by >>61683020 is fucking retarded.

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>>61683044
Am I supposed to believe this excuse? Nice try, though

>>61683069
Man, I never would've guessed that smoothing the curve would do nothing but smoothen the curve. The things you learn on /hpg/!

>>61682679
i archive in .flac to avoid loss of music quality through rotational velocidensity on the hard drive but I convert to .mp3 when I transfer it over to my phone or whatever.

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>want to get Sennheiser HD 600
>Massdrop x Sennheiser PC37X has the same drivers and its cheaper
should i mass drop this ?

Always wanted to ask this:
How do you faggots test/rate your headphones?

Is there an album/song that gets used to test the levels/threashold/gain or whatever for headphones?

What's the deal with all these fucking Kevposters?

>>61683391
i'm a weeb, I use the Last Exile and Mushishi OST to test out sound stage / separation

>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones?mode=guest_open

thoughts? The low price of $170 is more worrying than encouraging coming from Hifiman.

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>>61683403

Idk it's fuckin weird

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is newegg our guy ?

>>61682845
It's the 400s driver, there's a reason they won't disclose the driver
Also >no bass

>>61683198
It doesn't have the same drivers, it's closer to the HD598 but it's neither the HD600 nor the HD598, just a "similar" driver.

>>61683510
>Bought my 9500S for $60 from Newegg in Canada
>Discounted from $200
I'm not sure what to think

>>61683454
Build quality is great on these.
See
>>61682772

>>61683510
How in the fuck can you offer a $260 discount?
I mean, are you trying to tell me we pay a $260 markup on headphones that cost like $15 to produce and are worth $40?

>>61683539
so similar driver as in, they are lying that its not the same driver as the HD 600

>>61683593
What the fuck are you on you ESL? It says right in the description "The drivers come from the same family"
In fact I'm pretty sure they are HD558 drivers, which makes sense for the pricepoint.
Why the fuck do you think they would put HD600 drivers in a shitty gaming headset that costs $120. Are you retarded?

>>61683585
>>61683559

I BIT THE BULLET

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>>61683639
>>61683585
>>61683559

>>61683652
They're on-ear dude I wouldn't buy them for $20

>>61683623
idk man some companies are retarded these days

>>61683510
>>61683652
Also no clue why the fuck its listed as $299.99 on your end when it's fucking $109.99 on the Canadian site.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826138294&cm_re=philips_fidelio_premium_on_ear_headphone-_-26-138-294-_-Product

>>61683510
They're obviously not worth anywhere close to $300, it's a much much lower tier model than the x2 and the x2 is like $200, plus they're meant as a portable on ear.

>list $100 headphones as $300 so you can offer an "87%" discount and snare people into impulse buying a product
That's fucking filthy, what the fuck is wrong with these people

>>61679525
>just snagged these
Give them back, Jamal

>>61683734
Eh, didn't regret my purchase. It was either that, or a $200 pair of HD 558s. Canada's fucked, dude.

>>61683734
>>61683706
>>61683698
thanks for rectifying my stupidity , i canceled the order .

>>61683734
These are old tactics. Mark them up for a while, and then offer a massive discount. Sometimes they're so cheeky they'll even offer a 50% discount while selling it at the original price, it works.

>>61683734
>>61683746
Seems like Brazil, but better actually.

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>>61676749
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61682783
Status CB-1

>>61683198
This headphone has the same shape as the HD558 and HD579 families so its driver is obviously from those families, not an HD600 driver.

>>61683198
>should I massdrop this
You'll get similar performance for less out of a SHP9500S with a V-Moda BoomPro, and it'll ship instantly, too.

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>>61683781

>>61683016
>i posted the blog of a fat autistic man therefore I'm right
yeah nah

>>61683880
Congratulations on owning the best full-sized headphones in the world, Idol Trash.

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>>61684404

You lovely people recommended me the 681 EVO's years ago and they did their job but recently fell apart after heavy use. I want to upgrade to something with better sound and build quality now.

After reading through the thread and associated links I have my eye on the Philips SHP9500S to replace them. Are there better headphones for the price or should I just pull the trigger?

>>61684562
The SHP9500S and HD 558s are probably the best choices for the price. Both are neutral headphones, but the 9500S side more to the bright, while the 558s side more to the dark. I'd personally choose the 9500S over the 558s if you don't mind the slight treble grain at higher volumes. Depends on what you like, desu.

>>61684562
>Are there better headphones for the price
Arguably HD558 for a little more since they have replaceable earpads. The SHP9500S err from neutrality slightly on the side of brightness and the HD558 err from neutrality slightly on the side of darkness. Both are excellent values.

>>61684562
status audio CB-1 maybe?

>>61684562
>I want to upgrade to something with better sound and build quality now.
get a bigger budget then

The Philips is also a disposable headphone. Earpads can't be replaced, at least not practically, because they're fucking glued on. It's retarded design choice when they've gone through all the trouble to give it detachable cables in the first place.

easily replaceable earpads and cables should always be a necessity with headphones unless they're meant to be cheap and disposable.

>>61684785
Unfortunately my budget is taken up by other things and I don't have much disposable income.

For 50 USD if these things last at least 5 years that will be good enough for me. Hopefully money is less tight in the future and I'll have a bigger budget to drop on an expensive pair of headphones.

Thank you everyone for the input.

Would it be a good idea to just go Magni 2 -> computer line out via an RCA to 3.5mm cable, or is getting a dac together with it worth it? I don't think I've ever noticed static noise.

>>61684785
not him, but what are the cheapest headphones with replacable pads/cable that /hpg/ would recommend?

>>61685016
Go ahead and connect. After, when you turn your amp up all the way while not playing any music, listen carefully. If you hear noise, you need a dac. Dacs can be had cheap. For about $60 you can get a hifime 9018 dac which is super accurate and has 2V line out. I prefer the optical version because isolation.

So.... SteelSeries is coming out with a Kevin Parnell line?

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Posted something similar before.
Would pic related be a good amp? Not looking for anything too fancy but my current "amp" has a fan which can get irritating.

>>61685143
Where'd you get this?

>>61685030
Closed: Status CB-1
Open: Sennheiser HD558

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>>61685030
unironically, HD600 but OEM replaceable parts are expensive because money.

The equivalent with AKG is the K702, replaceable cable and earpads, but the earpads have that weird propriety swivel thing (pic related) so aftermarket is incredibly limited. OEM is not readily available either. K612 has attached cables so no point talking about that.

Beyerdynamic equivalent (DT880 or DT990) also has attached cables.


oh and I guess there's Sennheiser's HD5xx series but I'm not very familiar with those. HD558 is probably good. Problem is, I'm not sure about the longevity of these models since Sennheiser keeps revising them, while in comparison the HD600/650 has been out for two decades.

Which amps make the O2 obsolete in the same price range?

>>61685030
M40x and HD558. Not sure if the CB-1 has replaceable pads

>>61685189
Kevin Parnell told me

>>61685345
Ok

>>61685296
Prebuilt? Magni2/Uber
DIY? Probably the best unless you wanna dick around with a Classic 47 and a decent power supply

What is the best closed headphone under $10,000

>>61685474
>https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-over-ear-sealed
Tyll's picks are a good place to start

obviously on-ears should never be considered so don't bother looking into that

>>61685156
What amp is it? You could probably disconnect the fan.

>>61685585
The fan is probably there for a reason.

>>61685510
t. Basement dwelling permavirgin

>>61685156
this amp? https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-SA-36A-TPA3118D2-Amplifier-Black/dp/B017W13OR0
I don't even see vents.

why the hell would an amp need a fucking fan in the first place? My amp doesn't even have venting.

>>61685585
It's a home stereo system. I'm not sure of the model but it's like a fucking VCR player. I don't use half the features on it.

>>61685609
Some higher end amps just have a fan for redundancy and if the amp is pushed to extremes (full volume 24/7. My crown xls1000.2 has one, but it's never on because I never pushed it past half volume.
>>61685641
Considering I don't know the model then disregard my suggestion. As long as you don't push that little chip amp it should work fine.

If I were to get the HE-4XX, what kind of amp do they need to be driven?

>>61686233
Fulla2 MIGHT work but Magni2 would be a safe bet.

>>61686233
Realtek HD onboard soundcard

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thinking man emoji

>>61686390
really opens up the soundstage

>>61686447
That transparent back should really brighten up the sound, eh anon?

>>61686447
>>61686463
What a dumb thing to shit on

I've gone for about 2 years, what are people being tricked into buying nowadays? Poorfags still justifying those $30 Philips in-ears?

>>61686508
Fuck you for not liking my pun, faggot

>>61686509
Poorfags are now into KZ IEMs which sound surprisingly decent.

>>61686509
Hottest meme on the block is the HD600. I sort of feel bad for shilling people into buying $300 shitcans, but hey, it's all for fun right.

>>61686509
>what are people being tricked into buying nowadays?
HD600

>>61686694
>>61686765
but those are good headphones

>>61686781
Not when Sennheiser shills keep calling them literal perfect headphones

Need some suggestions for a GOOD QUALITY pair of headphones/earphones for under $100, if such a thing exist. Also fuck BEATS, overrated trash. Bought a pair a few years ago and it lasted me two weeks, the headband snapped in two.

I'd like something with good sound quality and can last a long time, all the headphones I've ever had broke within 6 months or less

>>61686835
HD 558s. They feel a bit cheap but should last awhile. SHP9500 feels better, but the pads are non-replaceable unless if you want to do some ghetto mods. Nothing too hard, but it involves cutting off the clip that attaches the stock earpads or 3D printing some for yourself. CB-1s for closed headphones if you prefer those instead.

>>61686835
M40x, HD558, SHP9500, Sony MDRs, Status CB-1 (questionable build)

Mee M6, Soundmagic E10s, KZs, VE monks, Ergo fits. These IEMs may not last long, but they are cheap

>>61686898
>>61686923
>Sony MDRs
If forgot about that shit. Those fuckers lasted forever, at least for me. Too bad the stock pads are garbage.

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>>61686835
HD558

>>61686991
Those aren't HD 558s. They'd snap under that pressure with the plastic headband.

>>61687010
>>61686991
They're either 598s or 598Cs (garbage)

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>>61677399
That would be the Fidelio X2 by Philips.

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>>61687010
>>61687020
HD558 are similarly durable.

>>61687029
That cable is making me hard. Where'd you get that shit?

>>61687066
Yeah, no. I'd like to be proven wrong though, but all i've seen is some mild twisting. Nowhere close to this >>61686991

>>61684636
Aren't the SHP9500S pads glued in place? That makes HD558 the much more appealing choice.

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Eat my meme.

>>61687020
Both are plastic
>>61687417
The SHP9500 pads are clipped in

>>61687029
>>61687073
AudioMinor Cryoed Copper Cable

Why is it I download 1100kbps .flac anime music from Shin-S and I download the 315kbps .mp3 music from the same guy and it sounds better? Did he do a shit .flac CD rip? Why do people do this? rip a CD to flac and it sounds shit than mp3.

>>61683581
>>61682772
Don't shill for Massdrop or Hifiman. They completely fucked over everyone last time with the HE-350. Things is unusable.

>>61688828
What happened with that one?

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After years of reading this general I'm convinced I'm either seriously deaf or retarded. You've all shit on the DT990 so hard and for so long I'm looking for things I'm either doing right or wrong as justifications for me liking them so much.
I think the fact that I can drive them right, as they sound screechy and horrible on the dragonfly, and only really listen to Trance(ASOT) is having an affect. I know I can hear up to 20khz if my little sinewave/frequency generator software isn't lying to me.
I've had them for 4 years and prefer them to the Sony XBA-H1, Takstar Pro 80(hyperx cloud), ath-m50 and m50x, senn hd201, and various cheap shit earphones/apple earpods.
If they're really so fucking bad wouldn't a $100 pair of IEMs like the XBA-H1 just blow them away by virtue of not having the horrible treble spike?
Have I been memed

>>61689034
The anon here >>61688828 probably is super treble sensitive or really wants planars

>>61689105
>Have I been memed
Yes, there are many people who like the 990's

>>61689140
Would the fostex thx00(or whatever headphone that's a version of) be a good upgrade for someone who DOES like the dt990?
I think it's the treble/upper mids(female vocals) like I love on them as they just sound so great. I know the mids are "recessed" on the dt990 but to me it sounds like the vocals are always "infront" of the instruments and I love that. While the music I listen it driven by the bass I don't particularly give a shit about it as opposed to the female vocals massaging my ear drums.
Seems like the thx00 is a really sweet sounding headphone with really high quality bass and I'm looking to upgrade to a ~400 dollar headphone in the fall.

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post thic daps

>>61689183
From what I've heard it's a v shaped headphone with a -huge- emphasis on bass, if you're after female vocals over everything else you could definitely find something better, especially since it's mostly closed.
An open headphone with an emphasis on treble might be better, you could look into grado and the ath ad x00 lineup as I've heard they emphasize treble and upper mids. As is usual though, it's best to listen before you buy, and buy used if possible.

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>>61689186
I have a moto e second gen(wonderful phone) that I use with a dragonfly black and a 128gb sd card as my dap because the battery life is so good and I was able to slim android down to effectively just play music and run clover for me.
It's really a pretty good budget solution because I found the dragonfly for $50 used on ebay.
Really suggest it to any other poverty fags.
Pic is an S4 but it melted while charging so im using the moto e now
>>61689230
It's so hard to know exactly what you want when you can't try out headphones. I realize that the sony xba-h1, dt990, ath-m50 are all bass cannons and I like all of them but I don't feel like I like them for the bass. I've heard about the audio technica art monitor line but there are so fucking many of them. Any specific models I should check out?
$400 is gonna be a huge stretch for me that I'm not even 100% convinced I'm gonna spend yet so that's the upper end of my budget. I'm in the US of course and will be driving it off the fx audio dac-x6 or dragonfly black(if it can do it)

>>61689253
>Any specific models I should check out?
Most people talk about the 900x and 2000x in the lineup. Just try to search for open headphones with a emphasis in the upper midrange and treble and you'll probably get what you're after.

>>61689294
Is there a difference between emphassis, how loud the frequency is on the graph, and QUALITY of a specific frequency in a headphone?
Like if X headphone has the most treble it doesn't mean it has the BEST treble or does it?
I've heard people distinguish between bass quantity and quality quite often but does the same apply to treble?

>>61689321
>does the same apply to treble?
Yes, although I guess you'd have to rely on reviews to find out which treble emphasized headphones do it well and which ones don't. Too much treble can sometimes cause sibilance as well

>>61689358
Sibilance is just harsh treble i take it?
Well thank you for your time, I appreciate the help.

>>61689365
>Sibilance is just harsh treble i take it?
In a simplified kind of way, yeah. And no problem, hope you find a headphone that you like.

What are the benefits of on-ear? the only thing I can think of is if you want something light but get a lot of ear infections so don't want an IEM

>>61689757
portability

but they're the devil in terms of comfort and sound seal also sucks because it sits on your fucking ear lobes.

>>61689757
I feel less distance between the diaphragm and the eardrum means more clarity generally but I also like the perception of the sound that comes before my pinna. Also, the feeling of the air pressure being funneled onto and into my ears is done best with on-ears by far. They're more intimate all-around..

>>61689253
Look into Sennheiser HD600.

If you're only ever going to buy a pair of headphones, these are the ones.

>>61690614
no

>>61690769
>If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

>>61690777
well I'm the question asker so it's hard to give myself a suggestion. I am actually open to an hd600 but it's suggested 24/7 here, just like the fidelio x2 was before it.
The people who like the hd600 seem to fucking despise the dt990 and I LIKE the dt990 for reasons previously mentioned.
I want a higher end v shaped headphone that excels at modern music(so fast music, something i've heard armature is good at) and has really good female vocals.
From what I've read here I should check out the open back audio technicas and grado but now I'm thinking about others too, maybe even an IEM.

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>>61689105
What did I tell you before: Stop trying to fix things that aren't broken.
If you have a problem with the DT990, then tell us what don't you like about the DT990.

>>61691078
Dt880 would be a good choice.

>>61677688
>>61679282
thanks I'll have a look at the etymotic
>>61678417
I guess, often faster worldwide delivery is too expensive though

>>61691078
>I am actually open to an hd600 but it's suggested 24/7 here,
Yes, it is. And it's not a bad suggestion. It's a headphone to seriously consider.
Consider means not just ordering it because somebody on 4chan says so, but researching and possibly making an informed purchase of.

>>61691471
>Wants a v shaped headphone

:^)

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I have these speakers but don't have a amp or stereo to connect it with. I'm going to order a Lepai LP-2020A+ amp or a Nobsound mini amp. Is there anything better? I'm on a tight budget and I don't want to spend more. This is what it says on the back of the speaker Model: LXS-330, Impedance 6 Ohm, Max Power 60W, Freq range 80 ~ 20 KHz, S.P.L. 87 db/W(1m).

>Budget
$30 USD / $40 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC
>Past speakers
Computer screen speakers

>>61689183
>I know the mids are "recessed" on the dt990 but to me it sounds like the vocals are always "infront"
DT990 has more upper midrange than most people might think. Should have more emphasis than other Beyer sets besides the DT250 and the T90.
>I went to such lengths in this repost of the request to point out what I like in songs, and yes the dt990 is good at enhancing those parts of the songs but that's the limit of my knowledge as to what I want in a headphone.
If you don't mind big 9-10kHz treble peaks, you may as well consider the Beyer T90. The peak is larger than the DT990, which is already somewhat divisive.

>>61689365
Sibilants are consonants that you sound out by blowing through your teeth. They have the characteristic of sharp noisy bursts concentrated around a particular range in the higher frequencies, generally somewhere around 4-10kHz.
If you said a headphone had the characteristic of sibilance, it should have a narrow spike in the higher frequencies. Given the acoustics of small spaces, this is what is usually meant by "emphasized treble": sharp treble.

>>61689321
>Is there a difference between emphassis, how loud the frequency is on the graph, and QUALITY of a specific frequency in a headphone?
In jargon-speak, the headphone graphs you see are the normalized magnitude of the headphone's transfer function.
In simpler language, it represents how loud the headphone gets when you put in a steady voltage. By normalizing, we remove references to a specific voltage so that it only tells us frequency ranges the headphone system makes louder than others. In general, sharp peaks are not desirable.

Most people don't look too closely at graphs or listen too closely to the quality of the peaks.
Emphasis would refer to frequency regions that are on average boosted (apply smoothing function and look for broad rises).
Quality is a subjective result. It would be determined mostly by the linear frequency response and less so by non-linear distortions.

>>61689105
>>61689253
Tell us what you want faglord. K712 has decent bass, good soundstage and airy but not as peaky trebble, due to the gain before spike. HD600 is superb for vocals esp female ones due to the lower treble/upper midrange gain, HD650 for a bit more bass and less of that gain. Etymotic are decent as well and also have that HD600 gain, there are 2 versions also afaik another with bit more bass. If you can order from Amazon and use their return policy. Didn't really try high end ATH.

>>61692528
>>61691078
Ok, you might like DT880 or Fostexx massdrop versions. They drop semi frequently and have varied FR, more V shaped less V shaped. To intrepritate spike it is important to also see how it lines up with the rest of the frequency, if it's more or less flat and then a spike, the spike will be very prominent, if there is a visible spike but lets say, most V shape, there is a significant gain in bass than the spike is not going to be that bad as long as you don't listen too loud, you shouldn't for a loner times to avoid hearing loss, then spike won't stand out as much but mids, vocals, will sound muffled.

>nobody does headphone measurements for noncoherent distortion and multitone distortion

Fuck this gay hobby.

>>61692678
As in the proposal from Listen Inc.?
I take it that this is one of those 4chan jokes you people come up with.

>>61692853
RAA does it for amps and DACs but nobody does it for headphones.

>>61692869
The point of a modulation test is to reveal time-varying distortions that a harmonic test would not indicate, not cover the chart in mess of tones. So, what are we doing with multitone tests?

From memory, noncoherence test should be in a similar line as the old masker tests Fraunhofer used to do. Can be used with any signal, even music. A key problem of NCD is SNR, particularly for acoustic measurements.
Does RAA even do NCD?

>Budget
50-130E ,I would prefer something something below 100 though
>Location
EU, i usually order stuff from amazon.de or mindfactory
>Source
Motherboard
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Dont want them to hurt my ears after a few hours of use, otherwise i care more about the sound quality
>Sound signature
Dont know, id use them mainly for gaming, music (rock, metal, and symphonic stuff mainly)
>Past headphones
Plantronics gamecom 780, the digital surround sucked and the cable got torn (put out the sound card and wired a new one directly to the drivers) and they start to hurt my ears after some time, the sound is ok, and i like the soundstage too.
Dont know much about audio can someone recommend plz

>>61689105
You just have shitty pleb taste, anon. It's OK to have shitty pleb taste. You like the Justin Bieber of headphones, and there's nothing wrong with that. Lots of people like Justin Bieber.

>>61693919
SHP9500S, HD558

>>61694078
unavalible on amazon.de or mindfactory no listing from eu on ebay that ship to me either

>>61691364
hey man suprised you're still around, doesn't seem like many people stick around generals that long.
I have money coming in once again and I do this with everything even if it's not broken. I'll spend all day looking at mice because one might be more comfortable than mine even though mine is fine. Same with computer hardware, games, everything really.
It's just what I do so I'm probably going to order something new and if I hate it well I'll return it. Nothing better to do with my time right now anyway.

>>61692339
Nevermind I found one. Ordered this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPA3116-Breeze-Audio-Amplifier/32751974338.html and a cheap 12v 1a power supply from another seller.

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Thanks HiFiMan I totally understand this

>>61694801
take it or reave it

>>61689034
>>61689121
swapped out driver specs last minute without telling anyone. they sound like tin cans. literally sound worse than MDR-V6 and whatever audio technica crap that was cheaper.

>>61689105
If you like them, you don't need shills telling you otherwise, now do you anon?

>>61691471
>Recommends "flat" headphones
>Anon wants v-shaped headphones
S T O P

>>61695116
But just because I like them doesn't mean there isn't an upgrade I will like even more. I really enjoy them in the context of their price(which was $130 this time around) and getting another pair of headphones doesn't mean I'm selling my 990s. I'm just hoping for something I'll enjoy more or maybe even just in a different way. Sometimes I still listen to my Sony IEMs at home because I love how fast and punchy the bass sounds in some songs even though the vocals are a tad muddy.
Good to have a variety

>>61694801
Just use Google translate, brub

>>61695172
DT880s are a nice mix of bass and mids

>>61695263
And highs of course.

>>61695349
Also this

>>61697035
Sage

What are the best IEM's around for $60 these days

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How do I achieve this mode?

>>61697194
MK5 but a lot of people don't like triple flanged tips because deep insertion. Behind that, I'd think ZS5 with Spinfit tips

>>61697246
Thanks, these good?
https://www.amazon.com/SpinFit-CP800-CP800-M/dp/B01B7AMXDI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8

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>>61697222
How do you switch out your headphone drivers with the drivers from Beats by Dre headphones?

>>61697222
very carefully

>>61697304
It'd probably work better with CP100 tips as the 800 works better with thinner stemmed IEM's like Etymotic/Shure IEM's thus have a smaller hole to insert the tips onto the stem. You could also try JVC Spiral Dot tips.

Help guys. I need IEMs for under $50

>>61697717
KZ ZS5. The stock tips are ass so start experimenting with aftermarkets like JVC Spiral Dots, Spinfits, other IEM stock tips, etc.

>>61697543
Thanks

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Why do you guys hate the Sony MDR-1000X?

>>61697246
What if you don't like the style of either of those?

>>61698169
/hpg/ doesn't like wireless headphones in general

>>61697222
HD600

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>>61698373
Obviously not, anon. Look at the filename; the HD 600 doesn't have bass!

>>61694801
warranty card only works in china
refund in 7 days
free replacement in 30 days
free maintenance in 1 year

>>61698420
>the HD 600 doesn't have bass!
That's been debunked.

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>>61698449
By what? ""Poorly sealed"" graphs? On another note, why is it so easy to hook and reel shills in?

>>61698169
the fragile build quality

>>61698478
It has been debunked by objective evidence. I'm sorry you can't read graphs.

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>>61698511
No, please! Then teach me, fellow anon; how would one read this graph?

>>61698560
That graph has been debunked.

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>>61698572
No, please! Anon, I beg of you! Teach me how to read graphs!

>>61698593
That graph has also been debunked.

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>>61698599
Please! I beg of you! My family is dying!

>>61698620
This graph has also been debunked.

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>>61698637
Nononono! We don't have much time! Please, anon!

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I am looking for a very specific earphone, /g/

Must haves:
>in-line remote (with volume control if possible)
>over-ear hooks

Added bonus:
>Long, braided cable
>Decent enough sound quality


Does this product even exist?

>>61698656 new thread

>>61698657
Not very specific, but those exist. No decent recommendations from me though.

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>>61698169
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=180&t=5047406

>>61698173
Are ypu lookimg for a straight down wear or older apple earphone type of earphone?

>>61698648
>>61698620
>>61698593
>>61698560
Holy shit the level of denial in HD600 shills is incredible.

>>61699061
Just normal earphones, the type that would come with your phone or something.
Straight down I guess is the right term, not sure how the older apple earphones were