JUST in: Nvidia loading lower graphics settings when in motion

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>>61676201
DELET THIS

This was a known issue for Prey aswell. Nvidia cards didn't render shadows correctly or at all in some cases and therefore looked better in benchmarks

>>61676201
>miksi posti ei kulje
Google translate has no chance against this moonspeak

>>61676201
>Muokataas tätä aloitusta, kun tämä siirrettiin toisesta ketjusta tähän.
Fucking mongols and their retarded language.

>>61676201
>AMD pajeets spreading FUD to distract from the fact Vega is a flop

lmao

>>61676201
THIS JUST IN: Nvidia has been confirmed to not render parts of your game that are not in line of sight.

This means more gaming fps on nvidia cards! This is unacceptable, more tests needed.

>>61676276
>>61676301
Painu vittuun täälta

vittu perkele

>>61676201
There was some youtuber who also discovered this in DOOM where the wall textures were more blurry on nvidia.

>>61676201
>AMD fake news to cover how shit Vega turned out to be.
pajeets, pajeets never change

>>61676317
perkele tengri maami sauna

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>trusting nvidia after that crysis.exe fiasco

>>61676346
haista vittu kusipaeae

>>61676330
The texture weren't blurry, they loaded slowly on the GTX 970 than in other cards. Guess why :^)

J O N N E

>>61676374
>runs fine on 2gb vram
>m-must be the 3.5 h-hehe

>>61676306
But they are in LoS. It's amazing technology that they won't render the shit outside of it.

>>61676201
Wait, I'm confused. I thought this was the point of tesselation? Only show increased detail when you'll notice it.

>>61676201

This is called "optimizing" and it's happening since day one of video gaming.

>>61676201
>JUST in: Nvidia probably fucking its customers by NOT loading games they currently weren't playing! More tests needed! Test it! Test it!

>>61676405
If one buys 1080/ti one would suppose it doesn't tweak the graphics to worse settings.

RX Vega atm is a flop in vidya. They should've just made it a pro card.

>>61676406
It's as much of an optimisation as playing on half your monitor's resolution.

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>>61676201
>he thinks this is news

>>61676458
I mean it pretty much is just a pro card, even the gaming version has tons of pro features.

>>61676434
But it's not outside of the fucking los. What is the point of buying the best cards when you can't play with the settings you chose?

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If this amd, we would get dozen thread laughing at it

>>61676459

More like rendering half your monitor's resolution only at the times you are able to perceive just half your monitor's resolution.

It's cutting corners were it can get away with it. This is literally what optimizing is about.

>>61676201

JUST in: Nvidia probably fucking its customers by using inaccurate floating point values instead of integers (more gaming fps on 1070/10x0). More tests needed! Test it! Test it!

>>61676260
No. Both gpu companies had issues in prey which was eventually fixed by a game patch. Get your facts straight before you post.

>>61676201
Yeah... That's called a feature and it's a good thing but you wouldn't know or you'd have a way better job than getting paid for posting shit-tier shill threads on /g/.

>>61676201

So that's how the 1080Ti gets more FPS than Vega

>>61676510
Optimisation would be to use more GPU processing power to render the same scene. Cutting corners is what lazy early access game devs do.

>>61676374
That was Tech YES City.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVb25eomcrI

>>61676565
Bro just wait!

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>>61676201

saatana perkele muchelainen vittu

>>61676563
The fucking feature you are talking about is great as it works outside of los. This is inside of los.

>>61676484
B-b-but muh vidya settings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIbSeMcsOqA

This shit happen all time with Nvidia

>>61676301
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>>61676589
Why are there so many Brazilians in this thread

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>>61676201

>>61676642
Dumb uncultured swine

>>61676601
Like mp3 removes stuff you can actually hear? Big deal. Don't act like lossy optimization is just invented by NVidia just now.

Game engines remove stuff that don't matter that much all the time. Rounding, approximation, etc. GPU's do it. Even monitors do this.

>>61676357
>crysis.exe fiasco
Weebtard, it was crysis 2.

>>61676661
No one cares shit skin you are all shit skins,and distinguishing one shit from another shit is a wast of valuable resources, into the oven with you

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>All the damage control ITT

Face it, NVidya is known to play dirty and fuck with shit like this in their drivers. This isn't even anything new.

>>61676689
>calls the whitest ethnicity on earth shitskins
hmm... americans...

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>>61676654
>Nintendo paychecks
Not anymore

>>61676201
The way it's meant to be gimped!

>>61676669
But it can be seen as it is like additional motion blur. I'm all for optimization but you gotta be straight with this shit.

>>61676669
Low standards poorfags pls go

>>61676201

Holy FUCK!

Mark my words, next thing they do is using tables for trigonometric functions, texture compression, accepting rounding errors.

I am literally in tears now. My whole live is a lie.

>>61676725

You think you're funny but you have no idea what you are talking about, friendo.

>>61676746
You've no authority on this topic. Go back to your 120kbps youtube rip mp3s, poorfag.

>>61676709
>Asians
>white

Nice try you taglog mother fucker

>>61676717

I agree that this should be a setting.

Finally sensible comment among all the retards.

>>61676697
"Please log in via google, facebook, nvidia account to auto-update drivers!"

No joke this is exactly why I went to an RX 470.

Ei make

Voi Vittun sataana perkele x-d-d-d-d

>>61676767

How to you live with the 16-bit approximation of true analog sound, faggot. Are you calling out all sound equipment manufacturers for fraud as well?

>>61676796
Most are frauds, yes. 24bit 48K is objectively the best solution for digital playback.

>>61676697
This has been happening since at least 2003.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/75602-33-nvidia-caught-cheating-3dmark-2001se

It's been known forever.
Doesn't make AMD's current product launch any better though you fucking shill faggot.

>>61676201
>a forum

#amdteamred and r/amd are deseperate...

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>>61676844
>implying posts a forum invalidates this somehow

#leatherjacketman and /r/novidya are desperate ..

>>61676831

My point is that even 24 bits is cutting corners. Sampling results in data loss. This is not a problem because normally the discrepancy isn't perceived or maybe only just.

Now another optimizing strategy is explored and suddenly everyone loses their minds.

It's like using Xing as an MP3 encoder!
>Babbies won't remember that though

>>61676884
Yet most optimisation in games is indeed noticeable. The only valid optimisation is for the devs to use the lowest level API possible and write better algorithms.

Isn't this a gaming experience feature or something. It lowers resolution when you don't need it or when for below a certain point

>>61676835
It still make amd shitty

>But muh Vega render everything culling is a cheat
If they are doing so it's very dumb, poojet tie, like Secret features on die that don't work.

>>61676844
They are, Bega is great for compute but absolutely shit for games and the market now knows it.
They're shilling as hard as they can to try and stop that market completely evaporating.

Under 1080 performance for 1080 RRP prices (1080 can be found for ~450 often though) with almost double the 1080 power draw.
Not to mention Vega64 can't really OC higher 1750mhz and uses 444watts doing so, where a 1080 can hit over 2ghz without breaking 220w...

Vega is garbage for games, AMD's entire current stack is garbage for games.

>>61676631
Novidya by name. Novidya by nature.

>>61676920
>games
So no serious losses?

>>61676915
>like Secret features on die that don't work.
This was confirmed true.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3004-rx-vega-64-and-vega-56-power-specs-price
>>61676920
>Vega is garbage for games, AMD's entire current stack is garbage for games.
That is just fanboy ejaculating and you know it.

>>61676940
Considering it was a good 40% of the market, yes there is.
>bbut I don't like videogames!
That's nice?

>>61676911
If it is a feature you can turn off/on, it's not worth it at all because it's obviously apparent when the detail pops in.

>vega is doa
>NVIDIA CHEAT !!!!

amdrones are so funny

>>61676973
more like
>amd raj is money laundering by throwing vega parties
>nvidia caught agian cheating

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>>61676973
Both is true, you point ?

Nigvidia have been known to do this in the past. I am not surprised.

>>61676973
Yeah, Vega is pretty shitty in games compared to 1080 upwards. Now what do you think about this Nvidia shit?

>>61677001
Prof? Picture? Video?

>>61677016
Link to actual video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WUM5F69klo

You can see the ground texture pop-in and become detailed when the player stops moving.

>>61676949
The 'secret features' aren't really a secret, they're broken fundamentally in hardware - it won't be until a Vega refresh that they'll work at all.

>That is just fanboy ejaculating and you know it.
Mate, I think you're the one being a fanboy here, every post you're bending over backwards to find a new way to say Vega isn't all that bad.
Face it mate, they fucked up, big time.

The biggest fuck up though is the pricing, sure things can wrong during design/tapeout/fab - but pricing the product so high when it's clearly inferior to competing products outside of professional workloads (which aren't what gaming cards are typically sold for..) isn't going to go so well for them.
Polaris had value because it brought Hawaii performance to the <$400 bracket. Vega doesn't really bring anything - right now it's just Fiji with a higher clockspeed and double the memory.

Also,

-t 290X 8GB owner with no upgrade path on AMD since all their new shit sucks.

>>61676908
You do understand that almost everything in game development is about optimizations and approximations? The whole triangle based rendering is one big optimization/approximation as are all the shading models. The same goes for essentially everything you see in the game.

>>61677061
If it's noticeable, it's not an optimization, it's just a hack. In this case it's very noticeable.

>>61676201
Not that surprising considering both manufacturers release special drivers for new and popular games to get better performance. I think it's more of a rule than an exception that there has to be some sort of compromise going on between fps and 'correctness' of image.
When comparing performance between vendors it should be taken to account somehow but I think many people value high performance over absolute correctness.
Someone dig up the post from that nvidia driver developer or whatever who said that basically ever game is broken by default and that gpu vendors end up fixing them with special drivers.

>>61677061
Yes, I do. That is why people use low grade geforce and radeon shit and not proper pro setups, and why I can easily push 100% CPU and GPU usage on rendering software unlike in most games.

>>61677034
>>61676631
This happen more then one in this year alone

>>61677080
>If it's noticeable, it's not an optimization, it's just a hack. In this case it's very noticeable.
Literally all the shadows in all the actual shipped titles I've played are noticeably bad. According to you, this means that all shadows in all games are "just a hack."

>>61677138
Try turning the setting up from "pixels splatted onto the floor low".

>>61677138
Screen reflection shadows are a hack, yes. Just as much as old games simulating mirrors via identical rooms.

>>61677167
>>61677161
I'm saying that the entire rendering pipeline according to that guy is a hack.

Nvidia have always done this, bought higher average fps with worse image quality. It's not anything new. This has been going on for over a decade.

It's why there should always be comparison screenshots along with the raw numbers when websites do benchmarks. Or just record the whole thing and put it on youtube.

>>61677167
>Screen reflection shadows
What is that? Explain pls

>>61677202
Considering we've yet to see ray tracing and photogrammetry only came out recently, yes there's a long way to go fir proper photorealism.

>>61677214
Shadows that are magically processed 2D sprites on the screen instead of projections

>>61677212
This is one shitty ass thing to review and compare.

Now that you mention it there used to be image comparisions in pc magazines like a decade ago in gpu reviews.

>>61677278
Thanks, I've actually imagined someyjing like that. But could you post some link to read regarding the exact algorithm?

>>61677369
Have none atm, just look it up.

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>>61677138
I'm so glad for this AWESOME optimization! Now I can see doom at 144fps on max settings with my nvidia card. Unlike the stupid AMD which would only allow me to see it at 144fps on max settings.

GPUs should have different FPS and graphics modes. I mean it would annoying to tweak it every single game. But it's just dishonest to keep this a secret feature.

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>thought they weren't going to fuck with the 10 series
fucking hell

>>61677383
I've gogled already for sure. But nothing interesting. Any keywords?

>>61677458
Not sure, nobody has been doing it for a decade+

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>>61676302
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>>61677061
Fuck off Huang.

>>61676201
Gaymers got peed on, good. Gaymers BTFO.

>>61676770
>finland is in asia

>>61677480
it stop since Nvidia took the lead, coincidence ?

>>61676770
You alright mate?
>>61676201
OY

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Dis remind me of something.

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>>61676201

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>>61677613
yeah, nah
I'm copping a vega

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>>61677641
No! Wait! Look at benchmarks!

>>61677613
Nvidiafag saying they look better lol.

>>61676770
>idk where Caucasia is
an hero

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>>61677641
More benchmarks!

>>61677613
you do realize thats bug in the game engine? If a video cards cant properly display the assets, thats the dev fault, most of the time.

>>61676201
HAHAHAHAHAHA. THAT'S WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU CAN'T AFFORD SUPERIOR AMD GRAPHICS.

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>>61677731
>dev fault
Yeah, like, wtf!

>>61677818
Right looks superior to me. Easier to spot an enemy!

>>61677818
are you srsly trying to pretend "superior" nvidia drivers, knows specifically what assets to not show? Are you srs?

>>61677818
>>61677731
How is it the devs fault, the engine just makes calls to directx and that's that.

>>61677818
there's no way this is the same scene
like literally half of the geometry is missing

>>61677818
DELET

>>61676689
Get nuked faggot

>>61677818
Its just a grass and some trees, no biggie. Who care really?

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>>61676201

SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>61677818
why does nvidia put russian text and ads in the game ???

>>61677936
>DX12 bans everything it's designed for
can these people get any more retarded?

>>61677613
oh look it's ashes of nobody gives a shit lol

>>61676201
this is not news. when doom 2016 launched someone made a video showing exactly that. nothing came out of it, and it's been like a year

>>61676770
why are americans so fucking retarded and horrendous posters

>>61676201
FUCK YOU NVIDIA. YOU WILL NEVER GET MY SHEKELS EVER.

Not surprised.

>>61677613
>>61677731
the devs called out Nvidia for doing this with drivers they send to journalists.
Nvidia's only response was "How did you get hold of the press drivers?"

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nvidia at it again. they done the same in bf1 and cod ww1, gta v, doom and many other titles

somehow nvidia drivers dont render ambient occlusion, shadows, fog/particles etc. in certain times its almost as if someone checked when the FPS would dip and deliberately changed nvidia drivers so it wouldnt dip then

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>>61676201
>More in moon language
Get a load of this neekeri

leddit user akuberkala of /r/amd has just earned $0.20 for posting on 4chan.

>>61676398
hum no in ultra doom take about 3.2gb vram in 1080p

>>61678119
In the good old days tech journalists did image quality comparisons to catch these things.

Today they just run a benchmark and record the numbers

>>61676697
Yet their products are not only cheaper, but more efficient and faster. There is still no reason to buy AMD over Nvidia especially if you live outside of amerifatland.

It was the same story with Intel just last year before ryzen. You can go on all about muh ethics but no sane person bought an fx processor over an i5 or similar. Get over it.

>>61677773
he just didn't notice every effect displayed properly now

>>61678012
Does anyone actually play this, or is it only a game/benchmark made to make amd gpus seem competitive at something?

>>61678218
>cheaper
Then why can I buy a good rx 560 for less than a cheap mini 1050?

>>61676201
Yeah, isn't this what driver "optimizations" do?

>>61676770
lmao, you can't be THIS retarded

Ashes Of the Singularity Peaked at 723 players in April 2016. In the last 30 days it has 22 players.
http://steamcharts.com/app/228880
Why is this game used as a benchmark while more popular "staple" games that people constantly play for years are not?

>>61678383
>"popular" games
Sourceshit and early access turds?

>>61678383
It's pretty much a glorified benchmark tool, has support for tons of new technologies like 3dmark would and hits PCs hard. I doubt any of them take the results all that seriously, but it is nice to test a game that has full DX12 features including support for mixed multi GPU setups.

>>61678413
Games that people own, and play would be a good start for choosing benchmarks.
Why ashes of the singularity. It has no player base at all. It never even got clise to a tgousand players in a day.

AMD drivers will get it some day don't worry.

>>61676201
another 3.5 gigs scandal in the making!

>>61678476
If that shit started happening in a game I was playing, I'd find a way to turn it off, and if I couldn't, I'd toss the GPU out the window.

Also kys tripfag.

There's 6 people playing aots right now. Why the fuck is this a benchmark for gaming? This game is worse tgan milhouse.

>>61678512
Just because a game is popular doesn't make for a good benchmark. See >>61678444

>>61678493
Your ignorant.
Tech like that lets you play new games on high on older cards.

>>61676571
MMMMMMEGATEXTURES
has nothing to do with a video card, this is a slow HDD issue

>>61678536
>Tech like that lets you play new games on high on older cards.
Redefining low to be high doesn't benefit the players.

>>61678536
Poorfags can go fuck themselves

>tfw both amd and nvidia suck

Currently own an amd card and it crashes if I play a game with youtube open. I was waiting for vega but I'm sick of the amd always delivering too little too late and was considering switching to nvidia and then this shit happens. I'm sure I'd get better performance in games and less crashes with nvidia but at what cost? Fucked up image quality "optimizations," 3.5 memes, and whatever other shady business practices nvidia does.

>>61678535
Sure man, because when people choose hardware they want to know how well it does in shit that they don't run.

Whatever you say shill, I'm never going back to radeon with the terrible experience I had with them. You won't get me twice

>>61678563
Get Nvidia if you want something that actually fucking works.
>it crashes if I play a game with youtube open
I also had a ton of bullshit like this

>>61678583
Sorry, no matter how hard you wish for it, games running engines from 2005 and early access buggy crap don't count for shit when you're trying to get an accurate assesment of a GPU's performance.

>>61678554
Basically all LOD does the same thing, Nvidia is just better at it because their drivers are better.

>>61678601
So nvidia is better at delivering a bad experience? Sounds about right.

>>61678594
I own nvidia, amd, and intel in different combinations. They all actually do fine without issues despite what amd poojeets tell me.

>>61678625
I own all 3 and have no problems with any of them. All the "uhmuhgod I had the worst experience ever with (insert company here) drivers" is just ancedotal evidence.

>>61678273
where do you live? i'm in the the UK and they're both the same price. cheapest rx 560 i found was around 99 pounds and the cheapest gtx 1050 was around 103 pounds. they come to the same price when you include the postage and packaging of the 560.

>>61678597
You're telling me that a gpu that can run aots, but shits the bed in everything else that I actually like to play is the better choice for me? Not saying that amd diesn't do well enough in the titles I choose, but I'm more stressing tge fact that aots being an end all to guaging performance is just stupid.

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>tfw just ordered a 1080ti over my rx580 but according to this thread graphics are the same because the 1080ti lowers their settings midgame
>already started a RMA
I FUCKING HATE THIS

>>61678659
Bulgarian internet stores, gigabyte 560 2gb is 270BGN and 1050 was ~285BGN. Free postage; subtract 20% VAT

Let AOTS die. The game is shit, and it doesn't reflect gaming performance outside of itself. Nobody fucking plays it.

>>61678665
I still remember thinking what the fuck is AOTS when they revealed the RX 480 while Kaduri was staring at his twitter feed. I remember someone posting the steam stats and literally nobody played it.

>>61678712
>I remember someone posting the steam stats and literally nobody played it.
And people continue to not play it.

>>61678817
It just shows how out of touch the Radeon team is.

>>61676770
Kys you'reselve's, dumb amerifat

>>61676201
Don't forget to hide & filter the tripfaggot

>>61678240
KEK.

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>>61676201
GET REKT GREENS <------ lmao that was a dank meme i r89 r9001 390/3.5gb of v for vendetta ram, novidiots be like do a 1080 and walk awayy lmao, 144 wayy sly novideo grillforce gtx 480 clocked at 3.5hz 1080p 3.5 fps gimpworks edition, human eye can see only 3/5 ram anyways, nivea water boiler titanal FE(fanboy edition) at 3.5p, envidia fryforce shitan rascal 1080shiTi at 87.5% GTX(GetTheXtinguisher) (ngreedia pisscal thermi "malware experience" burning sillayy bridges edition with ngrillia GreedSync support) + krappy fake $hilltel gore i$emen at 7700K (Kelvin) maybelake i911 delidlake cancer core jewtel 2066 killowatt "cooler not included in a box" coffin lake "end of life" edition at 0.90 GHz (a.k.a. Inferno Bridge) inteLELite "another late edition" <------ i0 r8 dat meme 2400/3200 of dance dance revolution ram. 8GiB? What do you need 4GiB for? I'm giving you 3.5GiB! mumble mumble 3.5!?!?!? mumble mumble mumble 390?!?!?! Should buy Raja 420 Blaze it Edition instead.

>>61678938
A shitpost to surpass Metal Gear.

OP here. Didn't really think anybody would even reply. First time I heard about shit like this. I don't really get the "this is just an optimization" crew. If I were to buy a good fucking GPU which everybody and their mom said I can use to play my favorite vidya at 144hz/ultra and then was chinked out my ultra graphics I'd be pissed. Just say we are not there yet! And everybody knew about shit like this?

RX Vega seems to me like it cannot compete with 1080 and should've been cheaper (or pure Pro card). Gonna buy some nice used 980ti's myself because they seem ok at fhd.

>>61677202
That's not too far from the uncomfortable truth. A modern graphics rendering pipeline is essentially just piles of hacks ontop of other hacks originating from bad ideas laziness.

>>61676201
>game optimizations are bad

Then just switch them off

>>61679070
>RX Vega seems to me like it cannot compete with 1080
Why dont you want for benches first?
>used 980ti's
Why not 1070?

https://steamdb.info/graph/
There are more people playing "Depression Quest" than there are people playing "Ashes of the Singularity".
Let's just let that fucking sink in for a moment.

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>>61679072
Yeah, anything below Iray photoreal is just a hack.

Why do people keep demanding over 8 frames per day?

>>61676201
And people said vega is shit. Turns out nvidia was cheating all along. Vega is probrably closer to 1080ti than previously thought

>>61679177
Sure it is, and this thread isn't amd damage control over vega's shitty performance.

>>61676201
What is mipmapping?

>>61676669
If I tell my sound card to outpUT yhr sound at flac quality and pass in a flac file I better not get some shitty m3.

NVIDIA will get sued over this. It is right up there with the Germans cheating smog rules for diesel vehicles.

>>61679100
It's a feature which cannot be turned off. Practically added motion blur which is always there.

>>61679102
980ti will be/is dirt cheap compared to 1070. Although this shit makes me worried 980ti is on the gimping list. No need to consider x80 or furies because of miners.

>>61676770
God Austrians are dumb. Must be all the kangaroo kicks to the head.

>>61679204
If Vega is so shitty why does Nvidia feel the need to make optimization features which cannot be turned off? I thought 1080ti was the fucking best?

>>61679274
>cannot be turned off.

cool story

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>Year late nuclear fission reactor Vega 1080 is revealed
>Suddenly zero evidence posting about Nvidia shit showing up everywhere

Hmm, causes one to ponder the current situation

>>61679274
>t's a feature which cannot be turned off.
Proof?

>>61676201
>>pick a game
>>load high/ultra graphics
>>run in said game
>>check what surroundings look like (ground especially)
>>stop
>>check again

Just did this in Deus Ex, nothing changed, it looks exactly the same as before I moved. Am I supposed to be looking for something specific since I don't peak Fingolian?

>>61679487
>>61677035

>>61676201
this is known for years... you could literally see the drop on quality in doom also

>>61679334
Vega is still shit compared to the gtx 1080 ti. To get max performance in nvidia go to nvidia control panel, and select max performance for 3d, and power settings. The end.
This thread does nothing, but make vega look worse.

Is this supposed to happen with every nvidia card or only pascal?

>>61679115
AOTS is amd's go to benchmark. Why?

https://www.geek.com/games/futuremark-confirms-nvidia-is-cheating-in-benchmark-553361/

20 years of cheating
never change nvidia never change

>>61679338
>>61679402
There is nothing for this in Nvidia control panel. There is the one option for some optimization shit but it hasn't done anything in years.

>>61679487
It's blurring and changing textures. Arma, BF1 and PUBG have this. Don't know about Deus Ex.

>>61678536
>>61678601

i dont even know if i should laugh or laugh harder with you trying to justify nvidia's shit
but given who you are well im not suprised

>>61679803
There's 3d settings, and power. Put both to maximum performance. You need to do this with amd cards as well if you want to bypass amd's version of "optimizing" games.

>>61676509
>MOM I NEED 1080TIS IN SLI TO PLAY MINECRAFT

>>61678601
>Basically all LOD does the same thing
That is not what LOD is, LOD is making objects farther away less detailed. This makes everything less detailed while you're moving. Important thing about LOD is that you can't really notice it, while this is very noticeable.

>>61679734
Unsure. Pascal definitely has this. Someone said jos GTX680 seems to blur also but there are so many factors to consider: CPU, SSD, monitor, eyes, etc.

>>61679803
I play arma religiously, and have cpus/gpus from all vendors. Where should I look for these texture changes?

>>61679953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WUM5F69klo

>>61679964
>Not arma.
I can test arma with my hardware.

>>61676710
>he's a ghost now
Still printing money!

>>61676530
No. Nvidia did it while the game looked way better on AMD. Stop lying you shithead fanboy faggot.

Shit like this isn't uncommon. I'm more interested in whether it will be fixed or not, assuming it's visible.

>>61676530
He has his facts straight. Prey had tons of missing shadows on Nvidia cards at launch. This was visible in comparisons on multiple sites, with the shadows always there on AMD cards, and always missing on Nvidia ones. Digital Foundry, Nvidia's number one cheerleader, tried to play it down and say it was both, despite their own footage showing the missing shadows for Nvidia only.

>>61676201
That is genius to be honest.

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>>61680216
even joker productions confirmed it was an issue on both amd and nvidia and he gets sponsored by amd. his testing also found that the patch reduced both amd and nvidia performance as the shadows were being properly rendered. it was never an nvidia/amd issue to begin with. it was a software issue which the devs themselves resolved. if it was a gpu hardware-side issue it would have required a new driver patch to fix, which didn't happen.

simmer down fanboys. your beloved company doesn't care about you spreading misinformation on the net about the competition.

>>61679208
it's a technique to use lower resolution textures for objects in the far distance

It's just one game.

>>61680340
I have a 390 and 1070 and tested both of them out but couldn't really see any difference between the two on the first version of the game. These paid amd shills you're replying to are chatting shit about the game looking way better on AMD. They looked exactly the same. Once again the cancerous side of this gpu "war" is making regular AMD users look like utter twats with retarded comments like that one.

is this a DOOM issue or an nvidia issue ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokD8hM_FqE

video related

>>61680221
yeah like the VW scandal, they still got fucked.

>>61680413
look into the source

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVb25eomcrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvQ3A2g6Q8o

>GTX 970
>yea i got this shit too! using a 1080 gtx!

>>61680413

>RAGE
>A game that to this day flatout remains broken on non-Nvidia hardware

RAGE was probably only tested on Nvidia hardware.

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/RAGE

>>61677212
This, that is why anyone that knows what they are doing by amd.

>>61680826
>by amd

this pajeet tier english. jesus christ

>>61679996
>>61679953
This anon is willing to test this for arma
>>61679803
Crickets of course.

Vega turned out to be shit!
Assemble /r/amd streetshitters and spread some fud on channel 4 stat!

>nvidia
lol

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>>61681752
Jensen this reeks of desperation.

>>61681765
How does it run aots, and doom though? Give us those benchmarks you fucking loser.

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>>61681793

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>Nvidiahomot itsemurhavahdissa
Mikä vittu on itsemurhavahti.

>>61681793
>8k raw cinema card
>gaymes
Fuck off.

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>>61677731
>>61678012
>>61678153
>>61678601
>>61679100
>>61679148
>>61679204
>>61681752
All this damage control. All lost, like tears in framerates.

>>61681871
>an AMDtard everyone

>>61681894
>SOPA MACACO
Fuck off favela monkey

>>61681894
DELICIA

>>61681894
>b-b-buh muh vidya gaems ..

AMD did the smart thing and designed their latest GPU around workstation/compute tasks, since gaymur faggots weren't buying their cards anyway.

>>61681909
No I'm image xxxx now back the fuck off to /r amd u/akuberkala

>>61681923
BANANA

>>61681916
But workfags already bought thier cards, and amd is still shit comparatively.

>>61681933
WTF does this even mean? Everyone bought every workstation card they'll ever buy? How fucking retarded do you have to be to come up with this shit?

>and amd is still shit comparatively
Yep let's see that NVidia GPU with 2 TB of on-board storage, oh wait it doesn't exist. You're such a cancerous fanboy you're willing to defend leather jacket man even when it has nothing to do with videogames. Fuck off, dipshit.

>>61681923
DELICIA

>>61676770
>Being this autistic

>>61681962
>WTF does this even mean? Everyone bought every workstation card they'll ever buy? How fucking retarded do you have to be to come up with this shit?
It means that workfags already bought their gpus minths ago. Why would they downgrade to vega now, or even upgrade if vega provided a minimal gain.

>Yep let's see that NVidia GPU with 2 TB of on-board storage, oh wait it doesn't exist. You're such a cancerous fanboy you're willing to defend leather jacket man even when it has nothing to do with videogames.
Where to buy this? Will drivers be amd tier garbage probably.
>crying tgis hard on an image board because someone thinks amd is utter shit.

>>61676201
This is one of the dumbest pieces of disinfo I've seen from #TeamRed in a long time. I don't even know where to begin addressing this stupidity.

All games are in motion at all times. Frame rate doesn't increase while you're moving.

>>61682090
Look at the video dumbfuck.

>>61676201
Nothing wrong with if you can't notice it, which seems to be the case since it took people this damn long to realise it.

>>61682082
https://www facebook com/jarred.land/posts/10154878409465415?comment_id=10154878470535415&notif_t=like&notif_id=1501276190497990

Go ahead and tell this guy how much he sucks and how garbage it is, then. I'll be waiting.

>>61682090
It's is, and isn't disinfo. Both amd, and nvidia sets default optimizations differently, and the best way to get a near 1:1 is by going into their respective gpu control panels and disabling them by setting 3d, and power to maximum performance.

>>61682082
Good thing you're just another whiny fanboy on 4chan and nobody will ever take anything you have to say seriously. Meanwhile Radeon Pro SSG is poised to revolutionize CGI and video editing. But hey, at least you got those extra FPS in GTA V and some really big dies.

>>61682121
Who, and why?

>>61682155
.20 cents in indonesian money for you.

>>61682155
>Meanwhile Radeon Pro SSG is poised to revolutionize CGI and video editing.
Buy some ad space amd.

>>61677035
This is literally how it works in every game on every video card.

>>61682180
Stay salty, I'm sure JHH's obsession with AI memes will pay off. Oh wait, no, they won't, because ASICs will replace all that crap, just like Google did. https://www.wired.com/2017/04/building-ai-chip-saved-google-building-dozen-new-data-centers/

>>61682218
Don't forget Fujitsu's meme processors and Crest Lake.

>>61682237
Fujitsu gpu that will drop amd another tier if released?

>>61676642
>>61676689
Go back to lereddit, /pol/ or whatever shithole you have come from.

>>61682256
It's not GPU dummy.

>>61676317
>>61676346
>>61676359
>>61676589
Is mämmi tasty, Apu?

>>61682288
coprocessor then you faggot

>>61676317
viitu sataana perkele

Dear AMD please do this or fuck off
http://www.4chan.org/advertise

>>61677678
wtf
Did someone intentionally make that look retarded?

>>61682237
The amd fears the samurai?

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>>61676201
STOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPP

>>61682690
No, but NVIDIA does.

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This classic

>>61682761
This can't be real Nvidia slide. This is some sort of parody of Slideworks™... right?

>>61680851
Go elect trump again

>>61679874

And tech press are too stupid to recognize this during benchmarking.

>>61682922
Thats where AdoredTV gets his Patreon funding from. Cleaning up corrupt reviewers "mistakes"

>>61682887
Don't worry, we will.

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>>61677558
>>61677596
>>61677716
>>61678041
>>61678361
>>61678861
>>61679306
>>61682053
He didn't say anything wrong.
Fins are mongolian rape babies.

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>>61682802
Wheeeeeeeeeee!

>>61676510
its artificially lowering the game settings to look better in benchmarks, they do this all the time on launch with games, they will not render something to give better fps results then fix it a few days after all the benchmarks are done. it's just another reason amd looks like it gains so much on nvidia.

>>61683208
Intel does the same.
Like in GTAV helicopter bench for example. Water under the bridge did not load at all.

I've heard this argument before.
So I compared my 780ti to my friend JTs 290x.
Games look identical settings wise.

Maybe it's only done on weaker GPUs like the 960, 1060 ex.

>>61676201
Both nVidia and AMD/ATi have done this forever. Course, /g/ is sponsored by AMD so you'll only get one side of the story.

https://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12845&Itemid=47

https://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/232215,ati-cheating-benchmarks-and-degrading-game-quality-says-nvidia.aspx/1

So i didn't do that bad buying a rx 580 8gb then vs a 1070?

>>61683355
keep going, the list of bullshit nvidia does, has done and continues to do cant fit in one post.

>>61683400
The 1070 is a much more powerful card.
But a 580 isn't a bad choice
Both AMD and Nvidia lower settings when they sense benchmarks

>>61676774
>not disabling goyforce experience when you install the driver

nvidia is ded

>>61677936
>someone found a way to btfo the software scheduler i've used for years to make my gpus look more efficient
>bawwwwwwww it's cheating

when have you ever seen a game that can swap graphic quality on the fly without so much as a hiccup? let alone while processing physics and character postition? hell even standing still your character is still usually animating in some way

>>61677936
this twitter post shows a clear miss understanding of most anything let alone graphics hardware

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>skip some shaders in order to keep up the framerate
>dynamic graphics settings to keep a steady frame-rate
God, I hope you tinfoilfags are right about this. This is a feature I actually want.

>>61676524
But, GPUs are mostly using fp32 logic... What are you on about? Also floating point is more EXPENSIVE to compute than ints.

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>all this fucking sneaky shit
what if we're still on fucking yeears old tech and newer GPUs just cut out and cull shit better

>>61684761
>literally bigger dies and different pcb layouts
>lol it's just drivers updates
When did /g/ become tech illiterate? We really need a split between consumer electronics and actual programmers.

>>61684695
Both companies already do it to an extent. A lot of newer games have frame rate targets and adjust settings to keep that frame rate solid. Titanfall 2 for example dynamically adjusts the resolution to meet your target frame rate which is very useful if you don't mind the image blurring a bit to prevent frame dips.

>>61684863
Not good enough. I want the driver to keep 144 at all times no matter the cost. Why can't it just time shaders and kill them if they take too long? Yeah, it would cause visual glitches like mad, but I want muh steady framerate.

>>61682747
Well sure Fujitsu actually could bring the competition that AMD couldn't hardware, and software wise. AMD isn't even in that game though, so pretending that they are relevent outside of low end consumer bullshit is comical at the least, but you know folks here like to say that AMD gpus aren't for /v/ which is ironic since they don't offer much for most of the enterprise, or pros.

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>>61680658
>constant reduction
>constant loading in
jesus

>>61685561
SSG alone is worth it's weight in silver/gold/platinum/whatever precious metal you like.

>>61676201
Give me the quick rundown

>>61676201
I have a 1070, should I sell it

ATE SOME SPICY CURRY AND HAD TO TAKE A FEUCKHUEG VEGA TODAY. IT TOOK A WHOLE ROLL OF TOILET PAPER JUST TO WIPE MY AMD CLEAN.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE WORDS VEGA AND SHIT, AND AMD AND ASS ARE INTERCHANGABLE HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61685628
Yes get an AMD SSG when it releases. It specializes in 8k raw video, and nothing else. It will be so niche, and specialized that AMD won't even take the time to support it.

>>61678625
Same, I have a gtx 1070 and a rx 470 in another build, the Rx 470 is great for the money.

>>61685658
The WX 9100 is the exact same thing w/o the extra memory support. Please try and have some clue what you're talking about before you shitpost.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-vega-workstations-wx9100-pro-ssg,35128.html

>>61685629
Reminder to report shitposters.

>>61685799
Does that include Vega, and AMD posters?
These words are interchangeable now, right?

>>61685787
>The WX 9100 is the exact same thing w/o the extra memory support.
How would this change
>>61685658
AMD has shit support when it comes to their "pro" line.

>>61685937
>AMD has shit support when it comes to their "pro" line.
[Citation Needed]

>>61685918
NO SHUT UP SHUT UP ANYTHING THAT ISNT PRO AMD IS SHITPOSTING

Seriously though, thee underage newfags gotta go. They get triggered over everything. Everyone was throwing memes at intel and still is with worthless shitposting but now that AMD is getting their turn from Nvidia people they suddenly become victims

>>61685945
Intel got shit for X299 because it was released and got universally panned. And before release Intel shills were yelling up and down that it would totally destroy AMD.

RX Vega isn't even fucking out yet.

>>61685799
Reminder to report anyone who doesn't get kickbacks from AMD.

>>61685959
>RX Vega isn't even fucking out yet.
and it's still shit, don't try to justify anything

x299 was getting shitposted to hell long before it's release and so is everything else
Get over it, stop being a pussy

>>61685981
Yes, you can be the true defender of posts like this. >>61685629

Clearly something that should be preserved for all eternity as the perfect example of a good post.

>>61686008
>wahhhhh why can't /g/ be /v/ with GPUs aka /b/ with videogames

This board is enough of a shithole already without further cancer.

>>61678218
>Yet their products are not only cheaper, but more efficient and faster.
Before the miner rape happened, AMD Polaris GPUs had superior price/performance ratios. They consumed more power, though, mostly because of the hardware scheduler.

>>61686023
Man you newfags really shake in your boots over /v/, interesting how a bunch of video game manchildren are such a big threat to you
Poo poo raja

>>61685799
>Reminder to report shitposters.
This dumb nigger is actually trying to replicate downvoting through post reporting.
Gee I wonder le who is behind lepost.

>>61686066
You really want this board to be as much of a shithole as /v/, I can tell. Every CPU/GPU thread has to turn into some bizzare mirror of shitposting console war threads or you aren't happy. You want to be happy wallowing like a pig in shit.

>>61686099
>le downvote downvote downvote
Don't like it go back to funnyjunk, everyone shitposts everywhere and always has, get over it.
If such a shitty board as /v/ can ruing /g/ then maybe /g/ wasn't as great as you think it is

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Holy fucking shit the amount of shills defending Nvidia in this thread.
GPU boost and encrypted bioses designed in such a way to only hamstring competent users who are capable of using a high oc for 24/7 use.

Rendering highly tesselated pools of water below the map to hurt AMD perf.

Nerfing Titan xp by 300% to sell more quadros.

Literally using freesync for their gsync laptops and when someone posted a YouTube video on how to convince the desktop drivers that the monitor is in a laptop and thus enable "freesync" they freaked the fuck out and used scare tactics to get it taken down.

But yeah enjoy that 1060 3gb you fucking plebs

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>>61686152
>YouTube video on how to convince the desktop drivers that the monitor is in a laptop and thus enable "freesync" they freaked the fuck out and used scare tactics to get it taken down.
I need to see this

>>61686152
Stay mad AMDumbfuck

Poo in the loo

Also Nvidia cheated in Mirror edge shadow

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>>61686152
>amdrones are so immature they literally cannot accept losing
>everything is a massive conspiracy and everyone else is cheating
>the only true faceless corporation is amd
oh hahah you guys are like a bunch of fucking children

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>run a game on Ultra

>it's actually on high/medium

what can Nvidia do to control this?

>>61686207
This. Well not the actual people who own amd products, but the people who have a financial based interest in AMD as a brand are just too ridiculous.
They actually try to force a narrative that there are actual "fanboys" who would defend a brand this hard without being paid to. At the end of the day a consumer doesn't give a fuck about who makes what, and only cares if the item can do what they want at the price that they are willing to spend.

>>61686271
this
I don't give a shit who makes what, hence why I bought Ryzen and ditched my 6700k
was gonna ditch my 1080ti if vega was better, but it's not so I won't, literally that simple

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>>61686207
got caught cheating, it conspiracy. Nvidia is good boy

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>>61686310
waaaahhhhhh reminder to support shitposting

>Remember to le downvote all anti amd le posts by le reporting.
cc: to amd pr, and marketing

Check this shit out. My RX 480 does not do this. I only see it draw shit in towards the end where the creepers on the side of the cliff draw in. I don't see wooden platforms appear out of fucking nowhere.

http://youtu.be/FbY-vbvVgfo?t=96

>>61682162
The CEO or RED. They make really expensive cameras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnTD5MF4a2k
check at 2.42. guy welding on top right.

Not the first time they did this lol

>>61687037
>>61687371
Novidya up to its dirty tricks again.

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>>61676201
Is there actually a problem here? With motion blur to hide how shitty the textures and tesselation gets, it's actually a smart improvement desu.

>>61686008
reminder to report shitposters

anyone remembers how nvidia wasnt rendering the snow shader on aots? "it was an accident that we left the most heavy shader of the game out of our rendering pipeline"