WWY when VEGA was confirmed for being an absolute turkey.

is that the 64 or the 56?

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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_1080_aorus_11_gbps_review,15.html

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT.

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH.

>>61674178
>1080 performance
>$100 less
Whats the problem?

>>61674211
1080 is $500

>>61674211
Because you can get a 1080 for less than $500 already if you look around.

>>61674178
>I have never seen different results in different benchmarks
Unless it's the same benchmark, two numbers do not correlate.

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>>61674211
It's like $20 less and double the power. Same story with the 1070, you can get one for $399 now same as Vega 56 MSRP.

Only reason to get Vega is if you're an AMD fanboy or need it for Freesync.

'AMD is using the flagship Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid cooled models in most of the benchmarks and this variant has the highest clock speeds of all. In performance tests, AMD used a reference GTX 1080 against their RX Vega 64 Liquid edition and most of the results were on par with the GeForce solution. The difference here is that AMD is calling RX Vega 64 as the smoother option for the same price.'

RTG would be finished and bankrupt if not for AMD's CPU division.

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>>61674245
JUST WAIT™

THE DRIVERS WILL FIX IT

>>61674245
Source?

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>>61674245
HOL UP

>>61674273
Where do you think? Fudsville.

>>61674282
Shame that pretty much all professionals use CUDA

>>61674293
CUDA is irrelevant when no Quadro can handle large datasets.
:^)

>>61674178
>>>/v/

Isn't the air cooled Vega 64 rated at 345w? Honestly that's my only hold up with this card.
>inb4 hurr why do you care, it's only $0.25 more per year to run!

Cost is no issue. It's just more power means more heat. More heat means more noise. All so I can get the same performance as a card that uses 180w (stock) to 230w (heavy OC). As someone with no freesync monitor, this card does little to entice. HBM2 is sweet though. Waiting on Nvidia to use HBM2 or a price drop on Vega 64 ($400 range), whichever comes first. Either one is already faster than my 980ti.

>>61674238
Freesync/Gsync are marketing memes anyways. You don't need either of them.

>>61674400
>You don't need either of them.
You don't need IPS panels either. You don't need accurate mouse sensors either. You don't need a mechanical keyboard either. You don't need audiophile headphones either. You don't need literally 95% of the shit shilled on /g/ - consumer electronics.

>>61674178
Time to buy a 1080.
t. freesync monitor owner.

>>61674346
>Isn't the air cooled Vega 64 rated at 345w?
No, it's not. that's liquid, also peak should be more interesting than tdp, gtx1080 has tdp of 180w but can consume upto 320w

>>61674414
Not that anon, but doesn't g/free-sync need the game to run in fullscreen mode to actually work? If so, what the fuck is the point when most run their games I'm borderless windowed mode?

>>61674452
>No, it's not. that's liquid, also peak should be more interesting than tdp, gtx1080 has tdp of 180w but can consume upto 320w
SHHHHH. Delet. Oy. You are wrong.

>>61674486
You can also shuntmod 1080 then OC it properly.
Makes a noyce housefire.

>>61674459
>Not that anon, but doesn't g/free-sync need the game to run in fullscreen mode to actually work?
Yes and no, there was an update and it looks like it 90% works in borderless windowed mode now, kinda. Seems like you'd still want to run it in fullscreen for the best utilization of the effect though. Overtime I'm sure the technology will only get better.
>If so, what the fuck is the point when most run their games I'm borderless windowed mode?
Using exclusive fullscreen isn't exactly the worst thing ever

>>61674178
>http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3004-rx-vega-64-and-vega-56-power-specs-price

>As for power tuning, we asked whether this was just tightening of the power target or if actual power performance features were enabled under the hood. Turns out, RX Vega isn’t just a matter of restricting power target, they’re actually doing something for power optimization. We couldn’t get explicit examples at this time. One thing we do know is that the voltage targets change, so voltage checks are at different frequencies than FE, and voltage should be lower. We’d expect that this will align with our findings in the undervolting testing on Vega: Frontier Edition, where power consumption can equalize while improving performance. It’s still AVFS, but just a better tuning profile than FE.

>We also asked AMD’s architects, including Mike Mantor, about whether DSBR was actually disabled in Vega: Frontier Edition or whether it was just a rumor. The architects loosely confirmed that tile-based rasterization was in fact disabled for Frontier Edition’s launch, which we think mostly aligns with statements about pushing the card out in time, and noted that DSBR will be enabled on both Vega FE and RX Vega on launch of RX Vega.

>>61674626
Everyone knows that.
People just want to shitpost.

>>61674512
Ah ok I see. Well I hope they perfect the tech behind borderless window and freesync. I can't use fullscreen because it always fucks something up. I'm usually doing something else on another monitor while I game on my primary one. Encoding, ripping, or even just a movie. When I want to alt+tab out, 99% of the time the game I'm trying to minimize will freeze and I'll have to close and re-launch the game.

>>61674927
Borderless windowed adds triple buffering in windows 10 which can't be removed, which seems completely counterintuitive for a freesync/gsync output.

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Ayyyyymd steady decline past year

Are they finished yet?

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

>>61674238
>MSRP for one vs "you can find" for the other

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>>61675006
>PC NUMBER OF CPUS PER COMPUTER
>4 CPUS 52.06%

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>>61674178

DELET DIS

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>>61674271

>THE DRIVERS WILL FIX IT

>implying pooinloos can fix it.

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>>61674271
T-There's nothing wrong with AMD d-drivers

>>61674204
The 56 is for december

>>61675047
This, find a rx580 for msrp

>>61674400
both of these are things you only understand how important they were once you have used them in real life.

>>61674626
So it turns out we still don't know how much power RX Vega cards will consume and how fast they will be until we get some independent benchmarks from reputable sites?

How shocking.

>>61677084
Then why is AMD releasing benchmarks? They wouldn't advertise broken performance, right?

Novidya cheat on PQ to get thier fps numbers up.

>>61677234
The performance graph they showed in BF1 is on par with a 1080 so that's about what we'd expect in most games, with a few games like Doom being above a 1080.

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>>61674238
The aircooled version is 60% more TDP, not double. And I can guarantee you NVidia fudges their power draw numbers.
>>61674245
>Pulling bullshit off WCCFturd
They're full of shit, AMD is using the aircooled version for testing at the same price point.

>>61676939
Vega 56 is also launching in the 18th you mong

>>61677305
While the raw power beats 1080ti by 10%? strange

>>61677305
Except that's all you always see from AMD. AOTS, DOOM and BF games. They literally go even with Pascal's 1080 in couple of DX12 games and Vulkan just like Fury X against 1070. However both AMD and /g/'s shills ignore the remaining 95% of games in people's libraries that still use DX11 or Gamerworks where 1070 is 20% faster than Fury X and its going to be the same case for Vega.

>>61677607
We'll see the full results in two weeks.

>>61677377
Looks to be roughly a 180w average

Lo and behold, the 1080 is specced for a 180w tdp on Nvidia's own information page

I'm just really happy I got the RX 480 for <250. I don't really play graphics-whore titles lately so this will probably last me a year more.

>>61677424
Source

>>61678038
>Uses 300w
>Nah they say its 180 so its 180

>>61678148
>Hurr durr I'm a retarded nigger faggot look at meeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>61678226
300 watts

>>61674211
>>1080 performance
>>$100 less
>Whats the problem?

1. You can get nonreference 1080 for 500$
2. Its 500$ for a reference Vega, aka jet turbine

>>61678148
>Uses 300w
>Nah they say its 180 so its 180

They say 180W TDP = thermal power output, not electical power input.
You do know TDP is not directly power draw right?

>>61675047
Yeah, the difference is you can actually buy a 1080 right now while you have to wait until September to get Vega for the same price

>>61678713
>Buying Vega for 1080 price
>Buying 1070 performance for 1080 price

Nobody will be that retarded.

>>61678781
>le 1070 performance meme xDDDDDDD

Drink bleach.

>>61678781
>Nobody will be that retarded.
I can assure you AMD fanboys will be

>>61674178

>>61674178

>>61674178

Both benchmarks show different results with fury X.

41 in top bench and 49 in lower bench.

Thats 17.8% difference. Meaning to be truly fair you can scale the top bench by 17.8%

To be truly fair the Vega bench needs to be scaled 17.8% landing it at67fps.

7fps better and beating it by quite a bit

Nvidiafags on suicide watch

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>yfw you didnt fall for VEGA hype

>>61678960
>Implying this also wouldn't mean that Nvidia goes up

GJ.

>>61679322

Wow. Now way that you are this retarded.

>>61674459
>most run their games I'm borderless windowed mode?
Source on this claim?

>>61678960
Absolutely this

>>61674970
Source?

>>61674512
But I like borderless Windows because my multiple monitors with hentai meme

>>61677377
>>61678148
>>61678322
>>61678391

Every day someone has to tell niggers the difference between TDP, average power draw, and peak power draw.
Trolling or not you're all just stupid.

Peaks =/= average

My coffee maker peaks at 1200w when it is switched on. Does that mean it draws 1.2Kw for operation? Nope, it averages 700 watts, meaning it draws .7Kw over its entire run time
Likewise, the 1080 peaks at ~285w, but the sustained average is ~180w. Peak power =/= sustained load. Everything has power peaks, the peaks are irrelevant. The average over a running time is what people talk about when they talk about power usage.

My cars peak output is 260Lb-Ft torque, but most of the time its average output is 65-130 torque (on the highway). Comparing GPU load to car output at a given RPM, while still convoluted, is probably the most relate-able.

>>61681574
They even streamed the VEGA live testing
https://youtu.be/UxQdS0pbpKo

>>61675006
wait a minute so almost half of people who have steam have only dual core cpu ?

>>61682684
laptops for normies and fags with mid-range 2006-2008 PCs

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>>61682684
Look at the clockspeeds. It's all old shit or craptop territory.

>>61682684
No they have 2 CPUs

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>>61682647

>>61674238
>Only reason to get Vega is if you're an AMD fanboy or need it for Freesync.
or not being kiked by nvidia jews

>>61674178
reminder that pascal can't async, shit dx12 and vulkan perf, incomplete dx12 features and the already confirmed nvidia gimpworks. Prepare for gimping when volta arrives while vega continues to get improved

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>>61685105

>>61685105
and they are trying to gimp vulkan too, implementing gimpworks

>>61685105
>Implying the 1080 Ti will perform less even with its architectural disadvantages

>>61685105
>>61685118
That's ok, Ncuckya fans toss their GPUs out the window every two years like good little goys anyway.
>>61685287
And anyone else that bought less will be SOL.

>>61685105
Nvidia fans will just buy another card way better.
Yep maybe in 3 years rx vega 64 begins better 1080 ti but nobody care

>>61685319
>maybe in three years the vega will be better
>meanwhile there will already be a fuckton of new architectures that perform far better and more efficiently
Ok while you're getting 1080 performance for 400 watts I'll be getting 1080ti performance at 150 watts

>>61674293

Eh, no. Architects don't. Mechanical engineers don't. Structural engineers don't. Animators don't. Modelers don't. Texture artists don't, neither do lighters.

Faggots that use Unity to maek l33t gaymes do. That's about it. You'd be surprised how many industries use CPU rendering over GPU.
And the reason why professionals use Quadro cards aren't for the hardware, per say, it's the driver support that goes with it. That's why giant companies like Autodesk have specifically certified drivers for their versions of software.

Have you ever actually worked outside of a retail store?

>>61685417
All that you mentioned use CUDA

t. mechanical engineer

All of our software is based in CUDA

>>61685424
Right now, AMD is just trying to get a foothold here. If they can even do that, they have a road to progress on.

>>61685417
do you even know what cuda is retard?

>>61674245
If you read the slide endnotes they confirm they're using the air-cooled 64 for benchmarks. Dumb cunt

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>>61685424
>tfw starting mech eng course this year

I-its not that h-hard r-right?

>>61685424
>CAD software uses CUDA for rendering bruv

>>61686670
CUDA acceleration is common in nearly everything
>>61686545
No you'll be fine, just watch out for thermogoddamnics, it's a bitch

>>61674238
>Only reason to get Vega is if you're an AMD fanboy or need it for Freesync.
But freesync is $300 less than goystync, so you're saving sooo much more if you look at the big picture.

>>61674245
>The difference here is that AMD is calling RX Vega 64 as the smoother option for the same price.'
>smoother option
Called it. I knew that they were going to say this. Where the benchmarks Doom, and Ashes of the Singularity?

>>61674400
Freesync is quite nice tho

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>>61678960
OH FUCK! someone tell Ming to delet thread!

>>61678960
>>61679866
>>61686795
It's real nice to know AMDumbfucks are truly morons
>adding the percentage of a smaller number to a bigger number

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>>61678960
Or you know....tope one is more accurate than bottom since it's actually AMD marketing

>>61674228
>>Because you can get a 1080 for less than $500 already if you look around.

If you mean the cheapest 1080 you can buy anywhere in Sweden right now is 5999 SEK which is $740 and you think $740 is the same as $500 then you're right. If you, however, accept the reality that $740 is a bit more than $500 then you're very wrong.

>>61674238
>Same story with the 1070, you can get one for $399
Nope. the cheapest 1070 is 4900 SEK which is $603. That's $200 more than $400.

This may change if AMD VEGA cards become available, though. Right now there is not a single local store that has any AMD graphics cards other than the RX 550 so NVidia can basically charge what they want. The 1060 has also gone up in price a whole lot lately.

>>61686921
>Being a cucked swed
>Prices are cucked also

Lmao you really are a laughing stock huh?.

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>>61686956
>you really are a laughing stock huh?.

I'll probably reveal too much about myself by sharing this but I'll do it anyway.

I live in a small town which used to have about 20000 people. The we added about 2000 immigrants during the last 3 years.

This is a news story from a few days ago,
http://www.vf.se/kristinehamn/bilbrand-i-centrala-kristinehamn/
another car-fire. The source is my local paper, you'll find these in every local paper for every town in Sweden but it's never ever mentioned in any national paper or national media or international news media for that matter.

This funny piece was published in the same newspaper two days ago,
http://www.vf.se/kristinehamn/vidtar-atgarder-efter-oroligheterna-i-centrum/
yet another local article about "emergency" meetings between the social services, the police and the local governing bodies because there has been 10 car-fires and 3 robberies during the last 18 days. They sat down and talked and decided to do "something" and that something amounts to hiring a few more security guards during the weekends.

Do you still question if Sweden is or should be the laughing stock of the world?

>>61674178
Fuck off shill. I've had enough of forcing a composition pipeline to get actual vsync with stuttering because Nvidia couldn't figure out how to do things without a compositor. I'll be getting Vega even if it performs worse.

Go cry in a corner or something. I don't do the fanboy trash. Personal experience is better than your opinion.

Nvidia cheats. Shit that appears out of nowhere.

http://youtu.be/FbY-vbvVgfo?t=96

Outperforms the 1080 for less

>>61674271
They probably will
AMD has fucked up launch drivers every time, performance usually increases massively with new drivers

>>61677377
Looks like about 210W on average
My overclocked 290 consumes about 240W, vega will probably be similar to that
Not a huge amount of power

>>61678960
>>61679866
>>61686795
>>61686811
>>61686844
Difference is actually about 19%-20%, which would put Vega around 65-66fps. In any case, assuming the result would be accurate, being that the bottom benchmark shows the 470 and Fury X outperforming the 1060 6GB and 1070 respectively, it serves only to demonstrate a best-case scenario for AMD. Offering at best 20% better performance than a 1080 in only a select few games at 4K and with high power draw in spite of launching 15 months later? Apologies for being so trite, but it's too little, too late.

>>61679322
You scale up the top chart, not the bottom chart. You are a stupid motherfucker.

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>>61686711
>so you're saving sooo much more if you look at the big picture.

This is exactly the marketing AMD is going for.

While I do favor AMD, it's still disappointing that Vega is similar in performance to cards that have almost a year in the market. Specially considering Tesla is most likely coming next year and we just don't know what AMD has planned out for 2018 (they will most likely use the same strategy as with the 400 line).

Personally, I'm being convinced once again that the flagship AMD GPUs are not worth it, I might as welll just buy a 580 for FreeSync since it rocks practically every game at 1080p.

>>61688091
>Tesla
You mean Volta.

>>61674178
>Constant reports of 1080 level performance for months
OMGitsONLYasFASTasA1080!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrdddddddddduuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

But weren't Vega just for edition and that shit? And not for gaming?

>>61674178
So it is a $200 cheaper 1080? How is this bad again?

>>61674178
NvidIA cheats on benchmarks by reducing texture resolution and not rendering everything. So in a real test 1080 is likely much worse.

>>61674178
>comparing oc watercooled house fire vega to standard 1080

>>61691659
They are using the aircooled reference model in benchmarks.

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>>61691615
>It would have been $200 cheaper ONE YEAR AGO!

>>61687061
Same thing happens on my 390. It's hdd related not drivers

>>61692303
So it is $100 cheaper than 1080? How is this bad again?

>>61685105
reminder that directx12 and vulkan are literally irrelevant
reminder that they are hard to implement and devs don't give a fuck about relearning their job just to sate a tiny irrelevant market share
reminder to go back to your 96th playthrough of ashes of singularity

>>61692575
never seen this happen on 390
get an SSD already

>>61692679
>fuck dx9 let's stay on dx8
>fuck dx11 let's stay on dx9

I think I've heard this before.

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>>61692679
t.leather jacket man

>>61692719

No, what you've heard is your AMD shill speak that dx12, mantle and vulkan were gonna be the standard, you know, like 3~4 years ago, and yet here we are.

But enjoy ashes of singularity I guess.

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>>61692748
Hmm can't possibly imagine why this rabid drooling fanboy doesn't like DX12/Vulkan. Hmmmmmmmm.

>>61692748
>DirextX 12 launched alongside Windows 10 on July 29, 2015
>Vulkan SDK were released on February 16, 2016
>3-4 years

>>61692785
I love how you conveniently left out Mantle, which came out in the exact timeframe I've mentioned and was being hyped to hell and beyond by you pajeets since 2012.

>>61692692
Don't need to. The main game assets load in just fine when I'm playing. It's only that specific part of the benchmark which loads in slow for whatever reason.

>>61691615
anyone who wanted 1080 performance already bought one over the year the 1080 has been available
>>61692748
>here we are
yeah, AAA games are supporting dx12 and vulkan

>>61692765
Is this picture a joke? I thought the 480 became faster than the 1060 and if that was true then the overclocked 480 (580) shouldn't be just 2% faster.

I'm either being lied to or the 480 was never faster than the 1060 on average like /g/ told me

>>61692745
kill yourself
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/filename/why%20can%27t%20i%20hold%20all%20these%20memes/

>>61692910
don't complain when games stutter then

>>61693004
My games don't stutter and never have. What's your point?

Am I the only sane person left on this planet that still views graphics cards in resolution brackets?
>1080p - 480/580 (med/high), 1070/Vega 56 1080p (max)
>1440p - 1070/Vega 56 (med/high), 1080/Vega 64 (max)
>2560p - 1080ti (med), it's a meme, stfu whining until the tech is available retards (max)

>>61693072
normal people view graphics cards in price brackets
price/perf is all that matter for gaming GPU

>>61693072
>tells everyone he's the only sane
>doesn't divide between game categories
>has stupid >100fps requirement

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>Poo-laris hyped on /g/ pre release
>IT'S GONNA BE 980TI PERFORMANCE FOR $200
>RX480 comes out
>$280 for 4GB model, $350 for 4GB
>GTX 970 performance
>BUT DRIVERS WILL FIX IT
>BUT MAH POWER DRAW (/g/ conveniently forgot about that PCI power debacle very quick)
>BUT MAH 3.5GB (at which point it was over)
>BUT EASY AND CHEAP TO CROSSFIRE (which doesn't work even in 2017)
>People forget about it and go back to using nvidia

>Vega hyped on /g/ pre release
>IT'S GONNA REVOLUTIONALIZE GPUS
>Pre release benchmarks come out
>1070 performance
>MRSP gonna be low-ish but miners will buy them all so you'll be paying 1080 money for one
>BUT MAH TEAM RED JUST WAIT

post release

>MAH WATTS
>MAH DRIVERS WILL FIX IT

>>61693244
/g/ is /r/amd newfags who found ED and spam ancient memes. The cult echo chamber mentality is perfectly aligned with the culture of shithole they came from.
just let it die

>>61693244
Kill yourself, tripfag. Do you really think anyone is going to read that wall of shitpost text?

>>61693335
truth hurts amdrone

>>61693244
>post release
it's not released though

>>61674245
This was obvious from the start. They needed to be able to claim parity with nvidia's mid level cars so they overclocked and overvoltage as much as they could to do it as a marketing win. Never mind that it costs as much as nvidia's top of the line titan card.

>>61693244
>BUT EASY AND CHEAP TO CROSSFIRE (which doesn't work even in 2017)

don't forget they're phasing out xfire support now as well. all of that ">p-pls buy 2x480 to match 1080" shit is going to be gone soon and will only work with dx12 or vulkan titles

Why is a 13 TF GPU losing to a 11TF GPU? Why is AMD retarded and incapable of making a balanced gpu that doesn't waste like 20% of its transistors on shader it can't even use.

Even the 580 had this problem. It's pretty clear it needs a better front end and fewer shader per CU but nope, just going to shit out these GPUs that can't even use all the shaders

>>61693357
If there was even a corn kernel of truth in that shitnugget of a post it wouldn't be worth digging for.

>>61686921
Someone has to pay those taxes for all those gibs.

>>61693480
>Giving a shit about TF

>>61674178
Why is dx and a shitty frostbite engine playing a game that bombed in less than a month a measure of anything?

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>>61693418
King Poojet was shilling CF performance just a few months ago.
>there are retards who bought two (2) rx480
>amdfags will defend this

>>61693523
TF is unironically the nest way to measure raw capability of a GPU. Everything else is just a bottleneck waiting to happen

>>61692675
Yup, I don't see why /g thinks people won't favor amd when it costs half a paycheck less.

>>61693072
Vega can run 4k medum. Or did the shill forget to read the op.

>>61693533
No, there's no defending that shit. Mostly because CF is so unreliable, inconsistent and janky. If CF actually worked, it wouldn't be that bad.

>>61693533
Those people sold them later to miners and bought a 1080ti from the money.

>>61693533
>retards who bought two (2) rx480
yup, should buy more

Well, for the money it could be a good deal.

Still it's rather disapointing, 1 year later than the competition and it might not even be faster than Nvidia third fastest card, while using a heck of alot more power.

>>61693533
>the CF shilling was Raja's subtle way to tell you to stock up on the cards before the miners buy them up so you can make a profit
But you didn't listen.

>>61676008
Amd is selling the special edition with asbestos lining to be more thermallycontrolled

>>61686704
>thermogoddamnics

thermodynamics is trivial

t. physicist

>>61693128
>He only plays certain categories
>tells other people that they are not sane

>>61692943
1060 9 Gbps != 1060
It's to the base 1060 what the 580 is to the 480.

>>61693109
>normal people view graphics cards in price brackets
and then don't understand why the best GPU in their price range runs the monitor resolution in their price range.

You want to run a certain resolution you are looking at cards that will run it.

>>61694126
the 1060 6gb 9gbps has the exact same performance on average compared to the 1060 6gb. the rx 580 is 5% faster than the rx 480 on average.

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>>61694157
>the 1060 6gb 9gbps has the exact same performance on average compared to the 1060 6gb
????

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>>61694217
????

>>61694217
>1080 and 1080ti has exact same min fps but
TI costs $200 more
glad I didn't fall for Ti meme

>>61674271
if anything the updated drivers will make performance worse since their yet to enable a bunch of power sucking shit like the Hardware based culling and shit like that.

Its literally a server farm workstation GPU that got meme'd into life too early and on a shitty yield 14nm fab at that

maybe the 7nm refresh wont suck but by that time volta will be out and its game over

>>61687128
300-400watt is almost double the fucking power usage of that though even my 390x doesnt come close

>>61694688

At that point it's a CPU bottleneck, It's nothing to do with the GPU performance you retard.

>>61694721
>a bunch of power sucking shit like the Hardware based culling
that actually lowers power consumption

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>>61677084

No, i'm telling you AS A FACT Vega is a turkey. Buy your 1080ti to-day!

>>61693244
kinda glad i ended up with a 390x

gpu prices are fucked atm i might as well wait for volta and 7nm buy a whole new pc
>>61694772
Unless they pull a 480 and fix the voltage/wattage draw issues in microcode/driver updates vega is a massive dud

EVEN if they do they still will get btfo by volta and it will be the 1080/980ti vs Fury X all over again its all over apart from mining now and miners dont wanta shit wattage card maybe they'll get the 56 core and oc it?

>>61694806

The rumor is Vega 64 will launch at just slightly above 1080 levels. It will have the same power consumption.

It's not going to overthrow the 1080 but it's a great value proposition especially if you want to take advantage of a FreeSync monitors, especially because only Goyim bought Gsync.

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>>61694825

Trufax is that I'm running dual 390X's

I just like trolling /r/amd- I mean /g/

>>61694749
>1080p
>CPU bottleneck
This is the power of Nvidia

>>61694749
wow, and idiot
it doesn't matter which bottleneck it is if cards perform identically in the min fps
notice where 1070 min fps at

>>61694721
>lowering the voltage and number of vertexes to be computed raises the consumption

what?

>>61694835
They are marketing it as a 4k gaming card and we JUST know it barely pulls 40-50fps+ in said resolution in AMD skewed titles

its all over 1440p a shit meme
>>61694854
I think they are good cards, aged better than the 4gb 290s and 480 580's
>>61694866
i shudder to think how badly these scale up power usage when oc'd as well

>>61694825

Vega FE had rasterization turned off (what Nvidia and Mobile GPUs use), RX Vega will be significantly less power hungry.

AMD basically memed on people who bought the 1,000$ FE. You should really read up on what you're attempting to talk about.

>>61694887
did they even mention TDP officially anywhere?

>>61694858
Well Nividia does offload as much processing as possible to the CPU to help make their GPU's look more energy efficient

>>61694835

Vega's performance is all over the shop. The FE tangles with big pascal is srs bsns workloads but the gaming results of the FE are considerably lower than one would expect based upon the previously mentioned performance.

/g/ naturally only cares about gaming as /g/ is basically /v/ with more anime posters and as such takes no interest into trying to understand what might be causing this difference and - assuming vega is simply shit tier at vidya - why it ultimately is irrelevant when AMD as a company is gunning for the big boy markets (read: data centres and the like). RX vega is the gaymen crowd - based upon current info - being thrown under the bus so AMD can break into the lucrative big business markets.

>>61694915
yes the fan version is 275w others range from 300+ depending

idk its all up in the air atm until they fucking finally release the cards
>>61694887
I thought nvidia's version was different or done in software?

>>61694927
You don't do any work that involves what is considered a 'professional' workload for a GPU so fuck off back to le reddit and stop pretending you know what you're talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vLL1O9iQo&t

>good volume
>miners are covered WITH gamers

>>61694877
>They are marketing it as a 4k gaming card
Look at the monitor they're including in the bundle. Does it look like a 4k display? No, it's widescreen 1440p. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824022484

>>61694721
Are you retarded friendo? Let's say you have a pile of red and blue Skittles and your task is to transport the blue ones, but you can also bring reds, its just more work for you, your boss doesn't care. The old way was to take everything. Thebtrip takes long and it makes you use more effort to carry all of the Skittles indiscriminately. But then you get a neat sifting tool that basically gets rid of 90% of the red ones in no time. Suddenly you have only 66% of the load. You do it quicker and you have to carry fewer pounds.

That's how hardware accelerated discard works.

>>61694944
>yes the fan version is 275w
try 295W

>>61694877
>JUST know
we really don't know anything for sure yet

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>>61694978
why do they have 4k in their marketing slides then?

ultrawide is trash anyway convex is also trash as well as 1440p which isnt real 4k
>>61694986
yeah yeah i know about muh async
>>61694991
>mfw 1kw psu recommended

>>61694968

>you don't drive a ferrari
>why do you care about who wins Le Mans?

Stop being retarded - as a technology board (and a thread focused on a specific product) taking an interest in why it performs like it does is part of being an enthusiast. I don't know why Vega's gaming performance is as it is, but I want to find out.

Clearly you do not.

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>>61694858
Vega will have the same performance. Turn that bitch up to 1440p and watch the 1080 struggle to achieve 30 FPS minimums, Crank it up to 4K and the 1080 can only achieve 35 FPS average, with frequent drops into the twenties, .1% minimums in the teens.

If you were memed into buying a 1080 for 4K or even 144hz 1440p, you are now experiencing buyers remorse.

>>61694986
Here's another analogy

Let's say you have a pile of red and blue Skittles and your task is to transport the blue ones, but you can also bring reds, its just more work for you, your boss doesn't care. Instead you take nothing and take a shit on your bosses desk while screeching autistically.

That's how Vega works.

>>61695011
its in their own fucking slides?

Thats how we fucking now u moron
>>61694970
i should have saved that pic from r/amd about the fab supply issues from GloFo

>>61695014

>yeah yeah i know about muh async

That isn't what culling is at all.

>>61695021
Terribly analogy, here's a more accurate one for your case

>you know nothing about Le Mans or the vehicles/drivers involved, why do you care who wins and why do you feel you have the right to comment on it at all?

>>61695042
yeah yeah now i know u just told me muh skittles see the fire taste the wattage

>>61695039
AMD slides not to be trusted both ways it can be even lower or slightly higher

>>61695014
It's 4k capable I guess. Like, it won't run at 10 FPS. Let's face it, nothing more than a 1080 ti or 1080 SLI is good enough for 4k at 60 FPS. They just threw it in there because it's playable (>30 FPS)

>>61695014

People are taking the specs and reviews of the VEGA FE and think it's going to be anything near the performance and TDP of RX vega.

TDP of RX Vega will be 150w. Full card power draw will be around 225-250w. It will be significantly faster as well. Just wait the few days until some benchmarks come out

>>61695067
are you 13?
would you kindly >>/out/

>>61695083
They advertised the Fury X as a 4K gaming card too.

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>>61695083
30fps isnt really playable tho at least to me

if my card didnt do 60-100fps+ like it does now i'd bin it
>>61695087
>150watt
In what fucking world?

No fucking way even the 450-480 didnt use amount

>exclusive VEGA aqua edition footage
https://youtu.be/Sb9i-toCcwg?t=10s

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/nvidia-volta-release-date

Anyway volta will be out in a couple of months at least and q1-q2 at the very latest

This thread is pointless

>>61695105
t. newfag

gtfo ive been here for 10 years faggot

>>61695083
Vega 64 will have about the same 4K performance as 1080 Ti. 1080p and 1440p performance will be more in line with the 1080. This is due to the massive memory bandwidth of the 1080 Ti and Vega. Like always just wait for benchmarks.

>>61695140
>biggur dies
Wow thank you jacketman!

>>61695143
>Vega 64 will have about the same 4K performance as 1080 Ti
Oh fuck off you bullshit spouting moron, they've shown multiple times Vega 64 performance at 4K being 1080 level.

>>61695140
p100 to consumer pascal took almost a year.

>>61695155
here is a weird thing I don't understand
why make liquid cooled variant at all then?

>>61695152
>vs a shitty designed turd with a minimum 1kw required psu for the factory watercooled version

How the fuck isnt it extremely obvious at this point that the vega 64 is the new firehouse?
>>61695164
Nvidia have no reason to wait they can spit em out now if they so wish

t. 390x owner

heres a video of your precious vega starting up from boot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYrhWO_ZLYw

>>61674178
The picture looks okay though.
Only confirms how awesome Vega is.

>>61695181
Because they can't keep temps under control with the blower design.

>>61695187
Holy fuck jacketman stop being so anally devastated about Vega.

>>61695193
they didnt even say which vega it is? I am betting my ass its the 350watt+ version

>>61695187
You're going to be disappointed when Volta ends up being a 10% improvement over Pascal half a year from now.

>>61695208
>being anally devastated about an inferior product
Thanks to AMD's non-competition he can keep Pascal around for at least another year.

>>61695208
>head of nvidia owns a 390x
not even /g/ is this stupid fuck off
>>61695218
who cares thats still 50%+ over Vega since the 1080ti is untouchable and the 1180ti will be even more insane

>>61695187
>they can spit em out now if they so wish
yeah,just like intel super sicrit cpu they've been hiding all this time
how did that work out?

>>61695113
The 480 didn't use tile Rasterization. It's the same thing Nvidia first used between the old Nvidia housefires and their energy efficient chips used today. Go look up the difference between Fermi and Kepler. Now think- AMD is going to skip the earlier generations that Nvidia used for tile based rasterization, catching up with Nvidia.

Vega FE is a rushed piece of garbage that had tile-based Rasterization disabled.

RX Vega could easily have 50% more performance and 50% less power draw.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10536/nvidia-maxwell-tile-rasterization-analysis

Tile-based rasterization is used on mobile chips, but this is actually the secret sauce Nvidia used to outperform AMD since Maxwell. Achieving much higher clocks, and using way less power.

>>61695236
1180ti/2080ti won't be out till 2019

>>61695238
i didnt say that

7nm is ready on the nvidia/amd side of things

intel shit the bed and i say that as a i5 and previous i7 owner as well as a current amd a6fag
>>61695259
uh no its gonna be 2018 latest

Navi is 2019

>>61695247
TBR wasn't in Kepler you dumb fuck, you even linked an article talking about the actual urach that had it. How fucking stupid can you be?

>RX Vega could easily have 50% more performance and 50% less power draw.
AMD say otherwise.

>>61695236
>>head of nvidia owns a 390x
>not even /g/ is this stupid fuck off
1. child
2. autist
3. autistic child
I wonder which are you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maLzqjYx1BM

>>61695274
>uh no its gonna be 2018 latest
Please go ahead and tell me what year the following were released in:

780 Ti
980 Ti
1080 Ti

It's okay I'll give you some time to google it since you don't know anything.

>>61695289
get fucked you indescribable monumental idiot
>>61695298
780ti 2013
980ti 2015
1080ti 2016

>>61695259
If they do it earlier than that the performance gains are going to be minimal, higher end chips will be better due to GDDR6, and what they'll probably do is release a bigger pascal chip as a new titan, and drop the SKU's place by one

1080 Ti is now 2080, 1080 is now 2070, 1070 is now 2060, etc.

Watch the die size to see if they actually did anything or just made the chips bigger because there's been no actual performance improvements.

But either way you'll cheaper cards.

>>61695311
1080Ti was 2017 you moron.

https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/892792530634493954

Even AMD are already damage controlling RX Vega
>it'll g-get better we swear guys!

>>61695311
980 Ti wasn't a die shrink. It was still on 28nm..

so we can expect 2019 for 7nm, you fuck. You played right into his game. You've failed us.

>>61695321
>GDDR6
they are using hbm2 arnt they?

Doesnt matter its a meme, what matters is the cuda core count and memory controller
>>61695333
Meh the Titan X was out way before succ me offf faggot your just being pedantic
>>61695345
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
E
E
E

>>61695278
AMDfags are meme spouting retards who don't even read the shit they link. They also can't read simple charts and fathom stuff like the difference between power peaks and average.

>>61695356
No, it would be free marketing for AMD. Nvidia refuses to use any tech AMD invents.

>>61695356
>Meh the Titan X was out way before succ me offf faggot your just being pedantic
The previous one was too, that's irrelevant unless you actually like paying $1200 for a 1080 Ti

>They said Vega would have better perf/watt than Polaris
>They said Vega would have higher IPC than Polaris
>They said Vega would have tile based rasterization

None of this is true. AMD lied, the GPU market died.
Vega was our last hope of breaking the monopoly in the GPU market, but they blew it.

I've always had AMD GPUs, but this time I'm going to buy a GTX 1080 as soon as they're at around 450€ again to rub AMD's nose in how much of a failure they are.

>>61695392
Nvidia was using HBM2 on their tesla parts long before amd, retard.

Holy fuck this thread is pure hilarity.
Jensen's damage control squad is 12/10 in quality.

>>61695395
they actually retail for $1500aud+ here compared to 700-900au 1080's and $1000 1080 ti's
>>61695462
its 4am here

>>61694978
1440 and ultra wide are memes. They should of bundled this with a nice 22-24" 4k display. Some games would run at ultra, most would need turning down, but at least the monitor will not be outdated in 1 year.

>>61695479
>here
Where?

>>61695083
90% of gamers play at 30fps on consoles shitty laptops, and old computers. If it can do 4k over 30fps it does 4k.

Hell most people screach autisticly if their movies are filmed above 30fps.

>>61695462
>laughing at overhyped turd
>damage control
amdfags are hilarious

>>61695424
It does have better IPC, but the front end can't feed the logic units

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>>61695462
>>61695553

>>61695571
Fury x 2.0 that fuckwhit useless gpu is barely better then my 390x in 4k even In old games

>>61695392
>Nvidia refuses to use any tech AMD invents.
Refuses to pay licensing fees and use copycat inferior implementations created after Nvidia innovates.

99% of the time AMD's "inventions" are knockoffs of chronos group extensions with patents slapped on.

>>61695683
lol

>>61695618
Yea because the front end is barely changed

>>61695683
yeah khronos group actually made mantle

>>61695683
lol

>>61695683

I, for one, welcome our new 3DFX overlords.

>>61674245
They should sell ATI to intel .

>>61695683
Kill yourself, tripfag. Every word out of your mouth is the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life.

JUST WAIT TILL THEY INJECT FINEWINE 2.0 TECHNOLOGY INTO THEIR RELEASE DRIVERS,

YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL ALLLLL SEE! ;___;

>Vega shit
>Threadripper shit
Ryzen was a fluke, AMD is finished

>>61677305
>The performance graph they showed in BF1 is on par with a 1080 so that's about what we'd expect in most games, with a few games like Doom being above a 1080.
And UE4 games like PUBG will be below 1080.

>>61695943
and GTA V being 1070 performance

>>61695939
How is TR shit? It has no competition

>>61695939
What? Therefore is about to take Intel. Ryzen is a masterpiece by Jim The jew killer Keller and an all American engineering team in boston.

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>AMD says Vega is $200 cheaper because muh freesync.
>Have to buy a 1,000w power supply to run Vega

My fucking sides

>>61695961
16C TR is BTFO by 10C i9
6 core Coffee Lake BTFO 8 core TR while being cheaper

>>61686921
>Nope. the cheapest 1070 is 4900 SEK which is $603. That's $200 more than $400.

Maybe you should look at more reasonable places to buy? If you can't find a 1070 for less than 450€ you're looking in the wrong places.

>>61696015
SOPA MACACO

>>61696015
>>16C TR is BTFO by 10C i9
But the TR does better in every multithreaded workload?

>>61696015
>6 core Coffee Lake BTFO 8 core TR while being cheaper
>talking about unreleased products
I'm sure 8 core Ryzen BTFO 8 core TR too, but TR has the PCI-E Lanes and Quad Channel memory.

Enjoy your 16 lanes from Covfefe Lake

>>61693072
>Am I the only sane person left on this planet that still views graphics cards in resolution brackets?
I have a GTX 1080 and the game I'm playing is not running smoothly at 60 FPS all the time.

>>61696015
>16C TR is BTFO by 10C i9
If by "BTFO" you mean 50% better than the i9.

>>61686921
>Nope. the cheapest 1070 is 4900 SEK which is $603. That's $200 more than $400.
>lives in third world country
>thinks his pricing is comparable to the first world

>>61693480
AMD has had this problem for a long time, where they have a massive compute advantage, but somehow still offer worse game performance.

>>61695998
>Have to buy a 1,000w power supply to run Vega
That is only the watercooled version, and they put that there as safety against idiots using the cheapest PSU they can find.

>>61695939
>>61696015
Brian just stop already.

>>61696110
>and they put that there as safety against idiots using the cheapest PSU they can find.
No they put that there because the WC version draws a fuckton of power, like 1080 on LN2 levels of power draw.

>>61674178
Is that a problem? Miners will buy out most of it, you can keep shitposting about nvidia being better gaming GPU, and AMD will get its shekels and everyone will be happy.

>>61674178
Different settings.
Fury X got 41FPS in their test. 49FPS in the guru3d one.

You're retarded.

>>61696073
>>61696065
>>61696122

Threadripper SUCKS and AMD can LICK MY BALLS

>>61696130
Fucking 12 year olds on this board.

>>61695948
>10 less FPS in GTA V is 1070 levels
Not even close.

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>>61696163
Shut the fuck up you retard

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>>61696189
>less than 1070 perf

>>61695814
Via s200 master race > Intel gme950

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>>61696189
>>61696215
>Vega FE benchmarks

>>61695998
Is this how you activate almonds?

>>61696257
>RX will be better guys, w-we swear. No don't look at the lower clockspeeds of the RX trust us!
Fuck off you clueless child

>>61696276
No, really, FE gaymen tests are irrelevant considering AMD themselves admitted DSBR is off in FE.

>>61696276
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3004-rx-vega-64-and-vega-56-power-specs-price

>Turns out, RX Vega isn’t just a matter of restricting power target, they’re actually doing something for power optimization. We couldn’t get explicit examples at this time. One thing we do know is that the voltage targets change, so voltage checks are at different frequencies than FE, and voltage should be lower. We’d expect that this will align with our findings in the undervolting testing on Vega: Frontier Edition, where power consumption can equalize while improving performance. It’s still AVFS, but just a better tuning profile than FE.

>The architects loosely confirmed that tile-based rasterization was in fact disabled for Frontier Edition’s launch, which we think mostly aligns with statements about pushing the card out in time, and noted that DSBR will be enabled on both Vega FE and RX Vega on launch of RX Vega.

>>61696095
Why bother optimizating a niche GPU make that is less than 20% of the PC market and will still run worse anyway.

Look at doom 2016 it's a perfect example.

AMD GPUs have been dogshit since the fury even with a full fat 4096 core count they can't pull their weight even when saturated at 4k.

Fuck sake monitors have overtaken GPUs for almost 4 years now what the fuck is going on?

>>61696293
>>61696301
Except RX Vega perf in BF1 is barely different to the FE, DSBR is a meme and AMD have already admitted there is no significant performance benefit from it.

>>61696351
Show me the benchmarks please.
Preferably from someone half-competent, like Anandtech or THG or something.

>>61696351
Watch the shills try and refute this.

Doom had a software based version which barely gave preference to amd hardware and the Titan x Pascal oc took the performance crown there

>>61696293
>>61696301
>wait for drivers
uhh guise actually the chip is fucked
>wait for respin
>wait for drivers
>wait for navi

>>61696215
>observed fps
Rejecting frames they deem to be unobserved is something an nvidia shill would do

>>61696345
>what the fuck is going on
Nvidia is in the lead position.

>>61696372
>uhh guise actually the chip is fucked
Source please.

>>61696372
At this point there isn't a single GPU powerful enough to do 4k 60fps minimum anyway so the point is moot
>>61696384
4k is still a ways off from being attainable at 60hz+ even with shit turned down in most games tho

Even volta and probably Navi will struggle by the time games catch up

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>>61693480
>>61696095

Who programs the driver?

>>61695278
He's either false flagging or doesn't actually understand what he's talking about.

TBR accounts for much of the performance gain of Maxwell over Kepler, and since we already have benchmarks of Vega FE in games without the benefit of AMD's version of it (DSBR), you should pretty much ignore any existing benchmark where RX Vega appears to perform the same as FE as it should mean the benchmark was run without the benefit of DSBR.

Last I heard, AMD estimated that DSBR would reduce memory bandwidth requirements by up to 30%, and since Vega FE is memory bandwidth bottlenecked in games at the moment, there should be pretty close to a 1:1 performance gain for every % of memory bandwidth requirement saved by DSBR. That doesn't include the benefits that come from any associated reduction in power consumption enabling higher clocks.

Of course, the question then hinges on how well implemented the RTG driver group can have DSBR by the time RX Vega launches, and if and how much their implementation of DSBR can be improved post-launch. It seems AMD prioritised getting the drivers for WX Vega and SSG Vega finished before RX Vega.

>>61696386
It's been known since the fury x

Poor yeilds also confirmed with the vega10 as well

AMD shat the bed hard and even good min fps won't matter once volta launches.

They aimed at the mid end and failed with Polaris to fucken miners and same with Vega as well with the high end.

Just pull the plug and go make a fresh arch or unfuck this turds bottlenecks

>>61696455
Source is presumably your ass i guess?

>>61674178
you literally have to be retarded to do this comparison
you realize that the game is not just one static scene right?
unless both comparisons are done on identical systems at identical scenes then this comparison is useless

>>61696453
So what? It's still slower than a 1080 oc and has better min fps and slightly better average fps

It's a year late as well
>>61696473
Unless they make the Vega use less than 200 watt and have 1080+ performance it's a abject failure of a card.

>>61696510
No, give me the source about low Vega10 yields or disabled hardware.
Not this shitposting.

>>61696528
Was posted in r/AMD by a friend of a ex glofo employee in ny

>>61696425
drivers are literally made in india and vega is engineered by undergrad chinks

>>61696552
Then give me the link or whatever.

>>61696554
>vega is engineered by undergrad chinks

Have AMD gone mad?

>>61696552
>>61696455
>the reddit spacing is just a meme they said

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>>61696351
>Except RX Vega perf in BF1 is barely different to the FE
Gee, I wonder if that could suggest that perhaps the benchmark was done with a pre-DSBR version of the driver?

>DSBR is a meme and AMD have already admitted there is no significant performance benefit from it.
Yes, Maxwell didn't gain much from TBR over Maxwell. Oh wait. Also, a memory bandwidth bottlenecked GPU architecture won't benefit from TBR which directly reduces memory bandwidth requirements. Oh wait. Also, Vega FE didn't trade blows with a P6000 in geometry perf in pro applications were DSBR was enabled. Oh wait.

>>61696510
>So what? It's still slower than a 1080 oc and has better min fps and slightly better average fps
We haven't seen any benchmarks with DSBR enabled in games yet, and likely won't until RX Vega launches.

>>61696579
It's local BR ape shitposting like crazy.

>>61696345
>Fuck sake monitors have overtaken GPUs for almost 4 years now what the fuck is going on?

4k is just too much data required in the image.

>>61696581
>Yes, Maxwell didn't gain much from TBR over Maxwell.
*over Kepler

>>61696596
Even dx12 and vulkan magic can't do it and 16gb cards still struggling to cope due to memory bandwidth issues.

At this rate we won't have stable 4k until 8k in 2020
>>61696581
Why would they bench it with tbdr disabled?

>>61696661
>Why would they bench it with tbdr disabled?
They need to show *some* hard numbers to shareholders and general public and yet the drivers are not ready.
You already promised to show RX Vega on SIGGRAPH.
What would you do?

The pro drivers ARE ready, hence why there's like 10 demo systems of WX9100 doing everything but sucking your cock in AMD's SIGGRAPH booth.

>>61696661
how would they bench games with tbdr if they didn't have time to write it on the gaming drivers? they had to show whatever they had at the time no matter what.
and before someone says RTG can't into drivers, remember that they wrote the professional drivers first and they work like a dream

>>61696570

Are you actually gullible enough to believe that?

>>61674178
>Fury X 8FPS higher in Guru3d benchmark
>let's just ignore it

Why is OP, a fucking moron?

>>61678960
>>61687419
You know your product is bad when your fanboys have to resort to bernie math

>>61697132
Different settings, different CPU, boosting to different clock speed, different setup entirely, could be anything
Hence why it literally doesn't matter at ll

>>61674178
>WWE
>capitalized letters

redditspeak

>>61696830
>how would they bench games with tbdr if they didn't have time to write it on the gaming drivers?
How would they have a slide showing DSBR bandwidth improvements if they didn't have it working internally?

You're really retarded.

>>61696706
But they already have DSBR enabled in those BF1 benches.

>>61696581
>I wonder if that could suggest that perhaps the benchmark was done with a pre-DSBR version of the driver?
It wasn't.

>We haven't seen any benchmarks with DSBR enabled in games yet
You have.

>>61696365
You're right, I can't link you AMD benchmarks because AMD aren't competent.

>DOOM benchmarks for FE show it being 1080 level at best
>b-but muh DSBR
DOOM Vulkan has like zero driver overhead and has software-enabled TBR

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>>61697372
So you are arguing DSBR does absolutely nothing then? But then how do you explain Vega FE outperforming a P6000 in geometry performance (where DSBR is already working)? How can a GPU beat a p6000 in geometry performance while not being any faster than a 1080 in geometry performance of both tests were done with DSBR on?

>>61697448
DSBR is not working in geometry performance you dumbass.

I'm going to buy a Ryzen so I may as well buy a Vega to go with it.

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>>61697472
>>61697425
MUH SPECIAL FEATURES SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

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>>61697425
Yes, clearly since Maxwell is no faster than Kepler in DOOM, the GPU's ow TBR must not do anything in that game.

>>61697472
No, it's working in reducing the necessary memory bandwidth but that is precisely what is bottlenecking Vega in games, while not bottlenecking it in 3D rendering pro applications, hence the yawning gulf between Vega FE's performance in pro 3D rendering applications and in games.

>>61697643
"Special features" spammer needs to be castrated for the good of society.

>>61697294
>Hence why it literally doesn't matter at all
None of it matters until reviewers can get their hands on the damn thing. August 14th. These threads are just a jerk-off session until then.

>>61697762
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
SPECIAL FEATURES

>>61674209
Kill yourself.

I blame the Jews

>>61697658
>comparing NVIDIA TBR to AMD TBR
Shut the fuck up already.

>>61697658
>No, it's working
[citation needed]

Why would a render test completely unrelated to gaming show it not working yet it magically works in the specific workloads in your cherrypicked graph?

You're so fucking clueless it's unbelievable.

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>>61674238
:/

I really should've got one when they were $350

>>61698374
Oh, so your argument is that AMD's TBR implementation will be totally broken and simply not work because "LOOOOOL AYYYYYMD!!!" then?

>>61698390
As leather jacket man shills have been so fond of repeatedly pointing out, 3D rendering is 3D rendering and a Quadro P6000 does very well in games. How would you otherwise reconcile Vega FE's performance in 3D rendering in 3ds Max, Soldiworks and Creo vs Vega FE's performance in 3D rendering games? Magic? Both should not be possible simultaneously unless there is something fundamentally different with the driver implementations since in both cases you are talking about 3D rendering.

>>61686545
Have fun with materials science.

>>61693979
You've clearly never had to deal with THE book