/hpg/ - Headphone General

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

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>>61666660
Say my name

>>61665965

>>61666666

>>61666710
Jeb Gollar

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>>61666680
Best budget headphones coming your way :^)

>>61666660
from last thread

Dumb question. Does it matter if I buy earpads now or later to futureproof?

Do earpads go "bad" if they're just sitting in storage or something? dumb question probably but I just want to make sure. I don't expect the OEM earpads to be available forever for some headphones.

Is it true DT 880 has now sound stage and is horrible for movies, live music and vidya?

>>61666800
They're breddy gud, desu

What earbuds should i be looking at? Would prefer to spend less than $30, but can go higher if there's only trash in that price range. For the life of me I can't get comfortable with the newer style in ear earphones.

>>61666800
Nope, have them and tested many others, they do the job quite well.

>>61666800
Dt 770 dude here. I love them, no clue about yours though

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whoa so this is the power of the HD800....

>>61666800
>has no soundstage
This is not true.
>is horrible for movies, live music and vidya
This is true. It will be fatiguing for all of these because of greatly exaggerated treble response.

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Continuing from
>>61664065
>>61662357

What's the difference between these two? Hybrid QTEJ02JY vs Hybrid QTER01JY? I have the latter

https://www.amazon.co.uk/QTEJ02JY-Headphone-Mic-Silver-Pro-HD/dp/B01NBAVDIG/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xiaomi-QTER01JY-Original-Earphone-Headphone/dp/B019FBWOSA/

>>61664304
So the ZS5's are your best bet?
What's shit is I can't find them on Amazon, except for £30 and they'd come in a month or so, which is too long. I might have to rule them out unfortunately

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which is the best version of the o2?
or are they all pretty much the same?

>>61666800
The HD600/650 are the ones with no soundstage

DT880 has a decent soundstage

AKG K series headphones have even better soundstage at around the same price.

>>61666914
>narrow soundstage = bad
>wide soundstage = good
This is highly subjective and many will disagree.

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>>61666882
this

>>61666973
Looks like the Sennheiser shills have woken up again. That was nice while it lasted.
>>61666545

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>>61666826
>>61666855
>>61666857
>>61666882
>>61666914
Greatly appreciated

>>61666973
Your shitposting .gifs look disgusting, dude. At least make one other people would want to use.

>>61666902
irrc, the DIY version is the only good value now. There are better options nowadays. Fulla2 or various chinkfi.

>>61667036
I didn't make it.

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>>61667000
Trips of truth. Sennheiser shills BTFO

>>61667049
Then you have bad taste in shitposting, my dude

>>61667085
>objective facts are shitposting when they don't fit my preferred narrative

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>>61666660
Here you go, this made me think of you

>>61667118
>Treble rape
>Objective
What are you? Some kind of pussy boy with baby boy ears?
>>61666070
>>61666407

>>61667201
Correct, objective, unlike your links, which are subjective reports.

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>treble rape literally off the charts
What a terrible headphone.

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>>61667217
>t. Trust those graphs over your lying ears anon

>>61667000
>someone has a positive opinion of Sennheiser products

SENNHEISER SHILL!11111!!!!!111

>>61667257
>The same shitposter with the same pics
Fucker should at least make some new shitposts before he retires

>>61667254
Who are you talking to?

>Budget
+/- $100
>Location
United States
>Source
Most likely MP3 players and laptops and such, other normie applications
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort is preferable over absolute quality
>Sound signature
He's into techno and such so most likely slightly bass boosted, but an even sound is preferable
>Past headphones
Shitty over-ears

Helping my sister shop for her husband, what are the best over-ears that are around $100?

>>61667334
Status CB-1, Audio Technica ATH-M40x

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>>61667269

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>>61667257
>.gif depicting a fatal accident in your ear
So your smearing of the DT 880 is now just a positive opinion about Senn?
Come on.

>>61667374
This image is accurate.

I need a cheap and lightweight pair of headphones to use on the go with my phone. I kept breaking earphones so I bought the urbanears but after a year those broke too. What is the most durable pair of cheap headphones?
Call me a faggot but i'm honestly considering porta pro's.

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>>61667374
You've been there, done that... But I guess headphones are subjective, so do what you want. It's either DT 880s or HD 600s with the no bass and treble if you can't handle that either.

>>61667405
Porta Pros are great.

Currently have the HE400S and the HE400i and the Schiit Stack. It's good, but I want to make a huge jump. Here's what I'm looking for

>forward mids
>spacious
>great imaging
>great soundstage
>slightly warm
>neutral bass (don't really care about bass)

I also have Etymotic HF5's which are almost ideal. Should I be looking at Stax?

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What did Sennheiser mean by this?

>>61667334

NVX XPT100 (incredibly comfortable)

Akai Project 50x + LyxPro has 30 pads(ok comfort but sounds amazing for 18 bucks (25 with the pads)) bit warm


If you don't mind a slight bit worse comfort i'd get the Project 50x.

Can't go wrong with either though.

>>61667544
It means that user was uninformed and unaware that following the instructions in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U will prevent the HD600 family from ever snapping.

>>61667565
>You need to follow instructions to prevent your headphones from snapping
>Sennheiser shills will defend this
>>61667544
>My Sennheiser 6XX snapped when I put them on a week ago
>My Sennheiser 6XX snapped when I put them on
>Snapped when I put them on
C H I N K S H I T

>>61667405
Sony MDR7506 or V6

by far the cheapest headphones I've seen that are built like a tank. They go on sale occasionally, dunno if $100 is "cheap" to you.

Earpads will need to be replaced because the stock ones are meh (but okay for awhile).

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>>61667592
At least there's a known solution, unlike the Beyerdynamic design flaw, which will cause snapping no matter what you do.

>>61667610
>>61667592
both have replacement parts, go back to arguing over shit you can fix with EQ you faggots.

>>61667610
>There is a know solution
>Fucker literally snapped when put on
>Known solution
Ahh, yes, just buy our $100 headbands whenever you headphones snap!

>>61667602
Thanks, i'll add the V6 to a watchlist as they're over $100 maple dollars.

>>61667629
>Sennheiser Jews you out $100 every time your headphone snaps

701/2 and 712 same driver?
Impedance is the same
What's the difference?

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>>61667374
>Beyersremorse

I mean, there's a lot of other things to feel remorse about...

>>61667686
Shhh... This is a shitposting board, anon!

>>61667637
I see the MDR7506 as $140 canadian dollars but I swear I got it from Canada Computers for much cheaper before (somehow I'm remembering CAD$89.99 or something on sale). Even the shitty M30X is $100 on Canada computers now. what the fuck is happening

>>61667866
>Canada

Economy is fucked.

>>61667866
I bought the Shure 840s a few years ago for $180 and now they're approaching $300. The loonie is trash.

>>61667866
The Superlux HD661 are clones of the 7506.

Get it if you want something cheaper. It won't be as comfortable as the 7506 though with the stock ear pads.

>>61667498
If you can EQ the HD800 sounds like a perfect fit. Just tune the treble to your liking.

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>people still unironically have headphones other than the HD800 as their endgame
Why do people constantly feel the need to be edgy faggots and use obscure gear as though it gives them style points?

>>61667992
Some anons use parametric eq while other anons use Sonarworks which contains hd800 profile (plus a bunch of others). This anon suggests Sonarworks plugin cuz its easy and works great with foobar2000.

>>61667992
>>61668050
Sounds like a good path. I remember reading that HD800 doesn't pair well with Schiit stack (could be wrong though). Is that true?

Will schiit modi2 Uber + Magni 2 Uber be a good setup for my HD600s?
I want something good and that doesn't cost much money until I leave mom basement

>>61668075
Most likely audiofaggot nonsense. If you're concerned then just get a DAC/amp with measurements proving its transparency like the O2/ODAC. The stack is most likely transparent though so I wouldn't bother changing if I were you.

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?
>>61668091
Yes.

>>61668075
Schiit is fine with HD800.
>>61668091
Magni 2 Uber has great specs for the money. Consider multibit if you can.

>>61668005
Probably because the hd800s have a lot of sonic discrepancies for the price that most higher end headphones in the same price range don't...

Are there any higher tier non IEM earphones. I have recurring ear infections that IEMs make so much worse.

>>61668194
VE Zen/Asura

>>61668194
Sennheiser hd25

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So I made a friend at my new job and he had these crazy, huge, headphones from audeeze and they just completely blew me away. I've always just used the little jvc gummies and some logitech speakers at home so I'm fucking sold on hifi right now. I did some research and came up with this cart. I'm hoping it'll be good for both at home and my commute(train)?
I also like to use my earbuds when I feel like getting off the computer and faceplanting in my bed or when I go on walks so I want portable and desktop.
I'm in the US

>>61668184
>they have a bit of character
>that means they are bad
?

Anyone here compared HE400S and HD600? Tyll said that HE400S are better but wasn't sure if he was right.

>>61668257
Oh my portable "source" is just my smartphone thats why i put the portable amp in there, that would be just for the earbuds not the headphones

>>61668257
>Spending more money on earbuds than full sized headphones
Is there a reason for this?

any non iem earphones better than the VE Monk around that price range?

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>>61668319
Well I'm probably going to use both roughly the same and I have no idea what kind of "sound" I want and everything says those are the most neutral. I don't want to spend $200 and get shit ones when the really good ones are only $150 more, you get what I'm saying?
I mean I'm posting here because I'm looking for suggestions but yeah both portable and desktop use are important to me

Recommend me a headphone for metal core/post fagcore/ rape

Not trying to go full bigger bass and lose all sense of clarity. I like my shure se215 quite a lot for this, but I need some daily driver over ears

>>61668277
Dunno about the 400S but the 400I are better yeah.

>>61668372
*nigger bass. phone posting is gay

>>61668258
Just saying, I'd rather have staxx or audeze

>>61668277
He-400i are much better than the hd600s. Don't fall for the $300 dynamic driver meme.

>>61668363
If it was me, I'd get the HD600, get used to them, then later get the ER4SR.

I don't see the value on buying both things at once. It's not like the shipping savings are going to be significant. If anything, the HD600 is at a good price right now, but the ER4SR is not, and might be at another point.

>>61668429 >>61668277
>He-400i
Trash QC from a company that has infamously bad support. Mids are full of dips and peaks. Absolute garbage. Avoid.

>>61668372
V-Moda M100 + XL Pads

>>61668438
Well like I said after hearing those audeeze(i think they were LCD or something?) I'm just totally disappointed with my shitty $10 ear buds and crappy speakers so I want something for both halves of the day because I really do listen to music A TON like all day.
I looked into IEMs and its like they're just all bad for one reason or another except those $350 ones

>>61668463
You'd be a lot more credible if you just removed the second part of your claim (because it's fucking retarded).

>>61668494
Yet, it shows clearly on measurements.

>>61668050
I cannot recommend a solution like Sonarworks. Its high frequency equalization will be very off for many users because of individualized ear canal resonances. Sinegen high frequency EQ refinement while visually referring to measurements and target curves as guides is the only way to properly EQ high frequencies.

This is a reminder that DiPolarDisorder is a shitposting troll who intentionally spreads factually incorrect misinformation such as "hrtf graphs have an inverse relationship with how a headphone should measure" and refuses to back up his claims with credible evidence because he cannot. Do not take anything he says seriously, especially headphone recommendations.

>>61668463
>Mids are full of dips and peaks
You mean like the wonky veiled treble on the HD600?

>>61668493
Well, buying everything at once should be fine if you have the money, but I personally wouldn't.

You'll be trying to get used to the sound of both things at once. One is hard enough to do (in my own experience, it takes me no less than a week).

DAC-X6 should be fine and known to be good vs cost; Output impedance is known to be a little high, but HD600 is 300ohm so it absolutely doesn't matter. I do not know the portable one, so can't really say about that.

>>61666680
HD580

>>61668514
Pretending not to understand measurements doesn't help your credibility either.

>>61668551
FR, personal experience and every HD600 review I've seen agrees that the HD600 treble is done right.
>veiled
muh sennheiser "veil".

>>61668588
>muh sennheiser "veil"
muh "if it's not veiled it's treble rape".

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>>61668546
Man, you're really out on DiPolar aren't you? Is he some sort of personal bogeyman? Are you pic related by any chance?

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>he400i
>good

>>61668613
Give him a break, anon. He also has to deal with barely any bass and chink shit quality.

>>61668620
I will call out anyone who repeatedly spreads misinformation. To not do so would be irresponsible.

>>61668628
Who are you speaking to?

>>61668636
oooh, snap!

>>61668628
>shitty coupler measurements
>continuing to prove you have zero understanding of graphs

>>61668649
>To not do so would be irresponsible
>Fedora talk
Oh man, I wish I could be as cool as you, anon? I might even be as cool as the anon I asked you about!

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>>61668675
That isn't the only thing that can happen to them :^)

>>61668750
>things can break when you drop them like a clumsy idiot
Shocking.

>>61668780
>Common problem
>Fell off the desk
>Landed on the headband
>On carpeted floor
>Earcup somehow stops working
Surprise, surprise! Chink shit breaks easily. What else is new?

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Do audiophile tier earbuds/IEMs actually exist or are those just a meme? What about wireless ones?
I'm in the market for a quality pair of wireless earbuds of actually high quality, but I'm not looking to spend more than say $500. Bonus points if they're waterproof.

I don't like how actual headphones ruin my hair, and I don't like settling for shitty earbuds that sound horrible when I'm out running.

>>61668750
>spilled beer on my hd800
>still working fine

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>>61668780

>>61668828
>HD 600
>An HD 800
Did you post that here before? I remember reading something like your post a few months ago.

>>61668837
Had the cable die on one of these in less than a year. Shit breaks.

>20753 purchased
>3 hours left
will assdrop make it to 21500 units on time?!?!

>>61666680
Kill yourself poorfag.

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Question: How much about electronics should i know to build a headphone amp such as O2? Thinking of taking one of those basic on-line courses that send you parts so you can build a radio as you advance in your studies.

>>61668856
Maybe, I was pretty scared they were toast. They still work like it never happened though.

>>61668867
ok granted

attached cables suck

>>61666932
You're right. Headphones that sound like $10 Chifi IEMs are a good thing. Nice justification sennheiser shill.

>>61668891
methinks an altoids cmoy wud be easier anon.

>>61668951
Sure, i'd start with easier stuff, altoids cmoy would be really cool actually, would be fun to have something portable.

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>>61668691
Can you expand a bit? I'm looking at buying the he400 and a few other headphones and I don't understand the problem with that graph.
When someone who knows what they're doing looks at that what does it tell you?
I don't know shit but I'm seeing low sub-bass in comparison to the rest of the bass, then mids and highs all over the fucking place.
I look at this and see a similar thing going on with the bass, mids stepped down so V shape, and prominent treble.

>>61666897
>>61668597
He's in the UK though idk how that's going to work. I dug around a little more and the Soundmagic PL30+ is available and the TFZ 1S is up

>>61667666
K712 have memory foam earpads

while I only have the K702, I have another headphone with memory foam and it is leagues apart in terms of the seal and comfort

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>>61668050
pic related

>>61666897
>>61669049
I had a look there, I'm not accustomed to gearbest, but I'd rather just buy off Amazon on the off chance something goes wrong. Their customer service is pretty top tier.

Any word on the Beyerdynamic Byrons? What Hi-Fi seems to recommend them, but if I'm honest I know shit all. I listen to classical music, watch films, classic Disney musicals, and whatever else.

I do really appreciate the help though

>when a bunch of autistic shitposting anons single you out because you actually understand what hrtf means and how it applies to headphone measurements

It's okay I was a 15 y/o edgelord once too. After you lose weight things suddenly make sense.

>>61669042
That graph was measured with a coupler which doesn't account for the frequency response of the human ear and is thus not a good graph, especially when we have graphs from well established sites like innerfidelity or rtings with head and torso simulators known to be reasonably accurate. I'd suggest you look at other measurements because they differ wildly with that one (that one is clearly an outlier).

I'm reading reviews for MMCX cables

how the fuck are people having to replace this every 7 to 9 months? Are MMCX just that shitty or is it how people treat IEMs in general?

>>61669276
Kinda both. If you put most iems back in the case, regardless of the two pin or mmcx cable, you should be fine for at least 2 years.

>>61669042
It's an accurate graph which demonstrated poor bass response, poor upper midrange response and excessive treble. >>61669042 is literally fabricating bullshit.

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>>61668951
Just googled it and you're right, cmoy seems like a great start, i'll still take the course to actually understand what i'm doing, but should i build it i'll post here later, thanks for the suggestion, Anon.

>>61669364
this; he400i are shit

>>61669356
im guessing it's not a good idea to use MMCX IEMs for the gym

>>61669410
Yeah 2 pin would be ***better*** but I prefer Bluetooth when at the gym personally

>>61669364
>>61669405
>Samefagging this hard

>>61669139
No clue on the Byrons. PL30+ and TFZ 1S are on Amazon UK

>>61669364
Nice quoting retard.

>>61669399
Freds Amps in Australia sells cmoy kits. I just got from him a couple of Meier crossfeed kits, 1 natural and 1 bass enhanced. Still to assemble, looks easy enough once I dig up a case. Crossfeed plugins suck.

i wish a cure for tinnitus in my lifetime

>>61666902
Old and busted.

>>61669476
Cool, do they ship overseas?

>>61669678
Yeah. In my case it was free ship to US.

>>61669469
Thanks man. So from the bunch you'd recommend those? Any chance you own a pair yourself for experience' sake?

>>61668819
Get a pair of detachable cable IEMs and a Bluetooth receiver.

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>>61666660
>budget
$300 max
>source
magni or fulla 2
>type
open
>comfort
very comfy
>past headphones
M100s. Currently M40x
>sound sig
Something relatively balanced. But still a bit fun and good bass response

Based off this, the He400i seems like the perfect fit, but want to know if there's anything else I'm missing. X2s seem great just for build alone and fun, but I don't want bass to take over mids

>>61668546
Friendly reminder that I've angered this anon so badly that he shitposts and samefags every /hpg/ even though I've proven him wrong many times over, and that he is your typical shillheiser autistic shit for brains retard who's sole mission in life is to promote a pair of headphones he probably doesnt even own, or justify his own post purchase rationalization of the meme that is the shitheiser meme600s.

>>61669898
I don't sadly, too poor to get anything decent until I get my ass in the military to get $$$
>>61670108
K7XX/K712

What do you guys think of the Audio Technica MSR7?

>>61670108
X2s are solid as well
Ath-ad1000x would be an excellent choice.

That being said, you can't go wrong with the 400is either.

>>61670131
Probably the best $200 pair of headphones out there. Top tier build quality, sound, and looks overall.

>>61670139
Interesting, i've beeing checking the measurements, don't seem bad at all.
Are there pads availabe in case i ever need new ones?
Do you think they are better than the DT250 for example?

>>61670133
>Ath-ad1000x would be an excellent choice.
Why?

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What does /hpg/ think of this guy?

He seems to spend a lot of time filling time and not really making any decisive points.

>>61670291
Zeos is trash-tier. He's basically an autistic sperg who collects headphones and speakers and attempts to rationalize all of his purchases with an endless series of hyper subjective ass backwards reviews while claiming to be an objectivist audiophile.
>This is the best
>NO this is the best
>Now that I've saved a few hundred for my next set of mid tier headphones or speakers, THESE are the best!

>>61670204
Incredibly wide soundstage, pinpoint imaging, flatter mids and better midbass than the memeheiser hd600s and really flat treble that isn't horribly rolled off like the memeheisers. The problem with them is fit which can be loose on smaller heads.

>>61670178
Pads are completely replaceable. Ive never listened to the dt250 before, but they seem to measure better.

>>61670370
>than the memeheiser hd600s
They are also 3x the price.

>>61670401
>3x the price
>$50 cheaper from most retailers.

>>61670291
Retarded fat loser autist placebophile faggot weeb. Zeos in a nutshell.

>>61670291
He overhype headphones too easily

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>>61670420
Sadly not in europoor land.

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>>61670291
Personally, I think Zeos definitely knows what he is talking about, but he takes too long filling time. I've watched way too much of his stuff, and I can tell whether he actually likes something or he kinda likes it within the first minute. I really only listen to him when he reviews something that he owns personally or says "I want to buy this." He says most things are good, but when he says he wants to buy it, I think I can trust his opinion.

>>61670522
>Amazon is the only retailer in the world

There's gotta be another retailer that will ship the UK. They're usually $250-300

>>61670370
>The problem with them is fit which can be loose on smaller heads.
Opposite for me. My head is a bit wide and out of the box it actually put too much pressure on my temples which for some reason made me nauseous. I bent the two suspension bars just enough such that it would distribute less pressure there and more pressure under my ears, problem gone.
Bass roll-off is still an issue, but I'm working on eliminating that without affecting the rest of the sonics with a mod rather than EQ...

>>61670567
>that will ship the UK
Sure, and at that point you'll be paying a handsome import fee.

Cheapest I could find them is 550.

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At what point with IEMs do they go from quality increase to memes? I have W40's, if I bought W80, SE846, CA Vega, NA Katana/Kaiser, etc, would I actually benefit from it, or would I be spending 1000+ on memes?

>>61670590

ebay.co.uk ?

>>61670640
Oh boy, I would not trust ebay with headphones.

>>61665640
>>61666070
Canal resonance is from transmission impedance mismatch. One end is terminated by skin and bone, the other end is canal opening into free air at the concha. Has the pattern of half-closed tube, λ/4 resonance.
Second canal resonance will be placed around 8-9 kHz for average human ear. Tyll's head will present that resonance higher up with his model canals.
Canal loading is somewhere between small and minimal with most on-ear and over ear headphones, particularly open-backed designs. Most significant interaction would occur with pinna reflection and multipath interaction with pinna. Think of the canal as its own independent portion of the dummy head measurements.

Core arguments* for diffuse field equalization explicitly deny importance of canal uniqueness. It should be enough to present a flat response into the ear so that learned inverse filtering cancels the outer ear's open air transfer function. This idea underlies the operation of the AKG N90Q and their other self-adjusting headphones.


*Günther Theile, "On the Standardization of the Frequency Response of High-Quality Studio Headphones"
https://mega.nz/#!bMcRlJYL!rH0OThh3UZjtbPyJAJLppPK4n3DEqPHdJ0NmwiOz2J8

>>61670632
stop posting that image

>>61670640
Nah John Lewis, it's a reputable shop. They are a bit cheaper somewhere called 'Juno' but I've never heard of them.

>>61670653
Ordered my HD800 from eBay paid like 65% of what they cost at retail, imported from from Italy and didn't cost me a penny. The seller was selling them as 'the last one left' and 'ex-display' but I think thats total horseshit because as soon as I bought them there was more in stock and they are still running the same deal now 8 months later and it's still 'the last one left'. They had zero signs of use what so ever, and had the same brand new smell my older Sennheisers had. I guess either electronics are cheaper in Italy, or someone is getting things at store buy-in prices and selling them on them self for a tiny profit each time.

I doubt it's all sunshine and rainbows but I wouldn't write off ebay entirely.

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>>61670756
No

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hello friends is this a good headphone

thank you

>>61670793
>different images
>same filename
good work anon

>>61670116
Your claim that "hrtf graphs have an inverse relationship with how a headphone should measure" has been repeatedly proven wrong by:
https://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2010/05/headphone-equalization.html
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-frequency-response-part-one
http://hauptmikrofon.de/theile/1986-3_Standardization-of-studio-headphones_JAES-1986.pdf
http://vbn.aau.dk/files/227876689/2008_Hammersh_i_and_M_ller_AAA.pdf
You have never provided credible evidence to support your claim. If you feel you have, post it here now. Of course, you can't because your claim was knowingly fabricated.

>>61670847
Absolute best headphone for $50 period.

>>61670847
What the fuck is up with California and their shitty cancer warnings? Pic related the warning on fucking wood.

>>61670847
No it gives you cancer read the warning

>>61670859
>Still being such an autistic assblasted faggot that you repeatedly post the same sources I've debunked while claiming all my sources are irrelevant.

Look I understand I'm your personal Boogeyman but you've gotta get this weird obsession with me out of your head. Get some rest, and when you wake up hopefully your hd600 headband will still be intact.

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>>61670878

>>61670878
>>61670892
>he doesn't wear an anti wood dust beanie

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>>61670881
Is there even a use to that warning, considering they put it on literally everything?

>>61670884
You have not debunked them. You have not even attempted to outside of posting a single irrelevant study. If you feel you have, link to the "debunking."

>>61670911
Jesus all these cancerphones. I bet /hpg/ is just a scam by the Jews to give the cousin cancer.

>>61670916
You mean I haven't debunked you? Because it's you. Just you. You repeatedly post the same shit, multiple times, and no one cares.

I've debunked you. You can't read. Go away.

>>61670921
*goyim whoops

>>61670927
>yfw your cousin is part of the goyim

>>61670632
>At what point with IEMs do they go from quality increase to memes?
Price is arbitrary. Try not to focus on it too much. Ideally, sound quality related parameters should be doable for around 100USD. Ideally.
The most standout feature of higher priced sets would be the construction. Sometimes crafted out of exotic materials and/or custom artwork. They also tend to be bulkier from the multiple drive unit used, as well as other filter components.
What you would normally get for paying the price premium is the manufacturer's house coloration.

>>61670590
Pricejapan is the usual import website.
I'm sure AT has several headphone dealers in the UK handy. Not that I know of any.

>>61670926
You are fabricating your claim of having debunked those links which anyone here can read and interpret as debunking your HRTF claim. If you cannot link to your "debunking" of those links you will be by all to be lying.

>>61670959
>you will be assumed by all to be lying.
FTFM.

>>61666760
if they are protein leather, they *will* go bad

>>61670968
Not anon, but assuming he is wrong (or right), would anyone really care after that? After all, once the job is done, won't you just go back to shilling/shitposting your HD 600s?

>>61670959
>>61670968
I think most of /hpg/ assumes youre an autistic fuckwad who spends most of his time on this thread going after this tripfag because he says things that don't fit your utopian goal of making everyone who trolls this thread wear a pair of wonky mid, rolled off treble no-bass $300 dynamic driver headphones designed in 1997.

>>61671025
Well, anyone but you, that is.

Can i plug in yamaha hs7 in a nfb-11.28 and use that as a dac/amp ok with the speakers

I know I can use it as a preamp but I want to know if it will just work without anything else

I recently bought hd800's but thinking of getting some hs7's

>>61670959
>>61670968
>Being this pissed off at a tripfag that's provided more general purchase advice and tech support than you ever have.
>Regardless of his answer you will immediately start posting cherry picked graphs for anyone asking about headphones in the price range of your snapheisers

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>>61670968
>>61670959
>>61668649
Nice edgelord talk, by the way.

>>61671046
As long as it has a volume knob you should be fine. Make sure the volume control on the back of the speakers are at the same level.

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>>61671059
how do you know the answer when you don't even know that there is a volume control knob?

>>61671078
A quick Google search of the audio-gd nfb11.28 shows me it has a volume knob.

The hs7s have a volume control (gain knob) on back of each speaker.

>>61671108
how do you know? when you didn't know the knob?

>>61671143
Okay now you're just confusing me.

You should be fine with that setup. Enjoy the speakers <3

>>61671186
how can I find out myself if it will work I tryed google'ing but nothing really coming up

>>61671228
Well I guess you never will. Better stick to listening straight out of your mobo.

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>>61671228
See the rca outputs on the left side? These are preamp outs. The volume knob on the dac will adjust the signal gain going to the speakers. The speakers also have gain volume control, but they're on the back. As long as the ones on the back are in the same position the volume will be consistent for both speakers. The only thing you'll need is a pair of rca to xlr cables, which will plug into the 3 prong xlr slot on the speakers.

I hope that helps.

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Are there any full-sized headphones that measure more accurately than this?

>>61671273
I wasn't trying to come off as rude btw anon, thank you for the help can I donate $7 to a charity of your choice?

>>61671356
No.

>>61671356
Audeze LCD-1s?

I own an excellent set of headphones.

Looking for a good set of speakers, as I'll have a place of my own soon. Ideally 5.1/7.1 system. Any recommendations?

>>61671356
Any somewhat good headphone well equalized? You can probably get something better if you know what you're doing.

>>61666710
what headphone he use

>>61671588
Or you could just buy something that sounds great out of the box like an HD600 instead of going through all that very considerable effort.

>>61671644
HD 600 isn't a perfect solution for everything.

>>61671673
This.

>>61671673
All music genres sound good with a balanced sound signature like the HD600's.

>>61671707
>Lacking bass compared to other headphones
>Narrow soundstage for gaming and music
>Treble may be a bit recessed to some

>>61671755
Its bass extension is excellent. A narrow soundstage is not a drawback as soundstage preference is subjective and varies widely. Its treble is accurate.

>>61671707
>basically n shaped
>all genres sound good with a balanced sound signature

>>61671755
it lacks bass compared to headphones with too much bass jamal

>>61671378
>>61671707
These posts are accurate.

>>61671785
Am I supposed to believe that when one of you Sennheiser shills called the HD 650 "bigger bass"?

>>61671775
Oh man, almost like headphone preference as a whole is subjective.

>>61671775
>Recessed treble is accurate

why are you anti bass? I fucking love bass!

>>61671877
Nobody is anti-bass, but a lot of people don't want any more bass than what is accurate.

>>61671920
Right, and I'm guessing the recessed treble is "accurate" too?

>>61671931
It's not recessed. See: >>61671356

>>61671936
And the bass?

>>61671950
Also accurate.

>>61671969
Kek
>Barely ant bass
C'mon, anon. I'm guessing the other graphs out there are poorly sealed headphones?

>>61671995
I'm sorry you can't read frequency response graphs.

>>61671995
>I'm guessing the other graphs out there are poorly sealed headphones?
HD600 graphs showing less bass response than >>61671356 are indeed the results of poor measurement seals.
>Barely ant bass
Your graph interpreting and spelling abilities are clearly lacking.

>>61666680
HD650

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>>61672007
No, please, anon! Teach me! Let's start with this graph as a starter. Please teach me how to read it.

>>61672031
>M-m-muh poorly sealed headphones!
>One word off
>Poor spelling
Bravo!

>>61672053
You check if the bass response matches that of a measurement with a known good seal, like >>61671356
If it does not you completely disregard the graph as poorly-sealed and thus not an accurate representation of the headphone's response.

>>61672070
>Muh poor seal
>Again
I'd laugh if it wasn't the same excuse everytime

>>61671356
Nope. The HD600 has already been proven to be the most accurate full-sized headphones on the market.

>>61672097
this

reminder that a $100 pair of professional headphones is indistinguishable from the HD600

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR110LP-Open-air-Stereo-Headphones/dp/B000EGLZU4

These are unironically amazing.

How foolish would it be to buy these QC35? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bose-QuietComfort-35-Wireless-Headphones-Factory-Renewed-/152618951349?var=&hash=item2388cc62b5

I currently use RS120 and like them a lot. I use them for all computer tasks: gaming, movies, music, asmr, dank memes, etc. I don't go on planes very often.

>>61672209
I meant to say I currently use R 160, as suggested a couple years ago in /hpg/

>>61672172
name an example of one

I don't want accurate bass, I want bass that sounds good for edm etc, whats a good pair of headphones for that?

If I'm using it primarily for gaming, should I get the HD600, or is there something else around $300 that would be better?

>>61672656
AD1000X perhaps

>>61672656
X2s

>>61667666
The 702 and 712's have different drivers. No idea what on the technicals of how they differ beyond the fact they sound slightly different

>>61672355
dt 770 80 ohm/custom studio

>>61670432
So../hpg/?

>>61670783
>Ordered my HD800 from eBay paid like 65% of what they cost at retail, imported from from Italy and didn't cost me a penny. The seller was selling them as 'the last one left' and 'ex-display' but I think thats total horseshit because as soon as I bought them there was more in stock and they are still running the same deal now 8 months later and it's still 'the last one left'. They had zero signs of use what so ever, and had the same brand new smell my older Sennheisers had. I guess either electronics are cheaper in Italy, or someone is getting things at store buy-in prices and selling them on them self for a tiny profit each time.

mafia

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Can you dye headphone plastic like people dye PBT keyboard key caps?

>>61673866
yes

Has anyone ever tried to close a pair of HD6XX's? I have a spare pair and it looks like it would be kind of easy to do, as all you'd need to do is remove the wire mesh and fill it with duramat or some shit. Not sure if it would sound like shit or not after that though.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dekoni-premium-earpads-for-akg-k7xx

For K702. Good idea or not? The velour pads on mine look so terrible now and I'm not sure if I can just rinse it in water if the earpad is glued to the plastic cap thing.

>Budget
300€
>Location
France
>Source
FiiO X5 III
>Type of headphones
good for /n/
>Comfort level
The very best
>Past headphones
Parrot zik 2.0, HD600s

>>61668257
honestly you're overcooking it with the portable amp. I'd get the XR's instead of the SR's and possibly even get 650s instead of the 600s and I say this as someone who owns a pair of 600s & HF5's

>>61672209
I've listened to them, I think they're fine for their intended purpose

>>61674295
Bose QC35?

>>61671377
Hey no prob I wasn't mad it was just late and the question confused me.

Enjoy the speakers <3

>>61674537
my Zik 2.0 do exactly the same and has removable battery

>>61674546
not sure why you need additional headphones desu

>>61672656
If you're primarily gaming, save your money and get the Phillips shp9500s which have a wider soundstage.

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>>61674561
something more audiophile than my zik for /n/ desu

>>61671644
>Going for something more expensive because you don't know enough about audio

>>61674580
Are you good with IEMs? Etymotic and heir audio have some good stuff around that price range.

>>61671707
Music is produced to sound good on anything

>>61674632
as long as it's comfy, the sound quality is good and fits with my FiiO, well built and can't hear animals in transportation, I'm good with IEMs

>>61674089
Velour doesn't take well to washing in my experience, you get a few washes out of it then it just sags like shit. When you wash them, do it in super mild detergent, and dry them with heat rather than compressing the shit out of them.

>>61674669
I'd say go with etymotics but they're not comfy until you get ear tips.

Heir audio 3ais or 4ais with comply ear tips.

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Anyone heard the HD569? Bonus points if you can compare to the DT770 which seems to be the main contender I'm considering.

Tyll seems to think they're good. https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/sennheiser-hd569-around-ear-sealed-headphones

FWIW I consider comfort equally as important as sound, and these look comfy as fuck, especially because have actual DEPTH for the ears, something the vast majority of headphones on the market lack.

I would be using for home listening, would also consider open options around the same price but closed would be better for privacy and isolation from room-mates, and because I already do most of my listening on speakers, headphones will be for when I cant use those.

redpill me some headphones

>Budget
~100€
>Location
eu
>Type of headphone
i mix audio and watch lot of movies and gayimg
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy
>Past headphones
only shitty headsets, cant take this shit anymore

>>61674871
Sony mdr-v6
Status audio cb-1

>>61674901
>Sony mdr-v6
Those seems nice, noted. How about: Audio Technica ATH-M50X, they're a bit over the budget but not too much if they're really worth.

>>61675016
m40x seem to be getting more praise these days

>>61674769
>veiled mudheisers

>>61675016

The M50x aren't that comfy since there's not really a whole lot of room for the ears, and they also have no soundstage which makes them sound quite 2 dimensional. I think they're actually a pretty decent portable headphone but I wouldn't recommend them for home use.

>>61675121

Thanks so much for the detailed impression and the suggestion of better alternatives.

>>61675016
I'd get the m40x over those.

That being said, if you wanna splurge the extra cash the audio Technica msr7 are absolutely god tier in every aspect.

>>61674769
Judging from the graphs, they seem a bit better than sennheisers other closed headphones. I wouldn't purchase until the price drops about 50 bucks though.

>>61675159
>msr7
those seems too much over the budget, can't go to 200 hundreds.

so what i could scrap up
>Sony MDR-7506
or
>Audio Technica ATH-M40X
both are almost same price.

>>61675156
>veiled mudhesiers vs ear raping treble

pick your poison anon

>>61675322
I guess the m40x would probably be better, considering they have a detachable cable.

>muh accurate response
>Implying the gear in the studio sounds the same
>Implying music isn't produced to sound somewhat good on anything anyway

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How important is a good amp for good sound quality?
I have a home stereo-system being used as an amp at the moment but it's massive, heavy and has a fan which can get irritating. Was looking at pic related going for about $35. Worth it?

>>61675875
Key word there is somewhat. Mixing is done on horrorcubes for the first adjustments, and then after that usually a pair of neutral studio monitors. It's a balance, and besides the fact that modern digital recording equipment can provide hifi recording very cheap.

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>get hd800
>it has a bit of a 6k peak
>take 15 seconds out of my day to eq it out
>never bothers me again
wow that sure was difficult, I can see why people give these headphones a hard time now, I think I need a rest after all that work

>>61676085

>class t audio amplifier

circuit designer here and my sides

what the fuck ? class t >

also source is everything bro

>>61676141
I don't know shit about this stuff.
What's the short version of info to know?

>>61676116
HD600 brainlets barely know how to breathe, let alone click three or four buttons in the right order.

>>61676085
T, amps have awful distortion and you should avoid at all costs.

>>61676141
>what the fuck ? class t >

Have you been living under a rock for 10 years? 'Class T' is what Tripath used to refer to their Class D amps & essentially what started the whole movement toward acceptance of class D in hifi & pro audio.

>>61676168
Only the first watt is ***clean***. Anything past that has audible odd order harmonic distortion, rising all the way up to 10% past half volume (like awful sounding).

>>61676182
The IC in that particular amp is rated for 0.03% THD+N @ 10W 4Ω

So is there a legitimate modern successor to the Clip? Something you can stick a microSD card in and get decent runtime and sound quality from? The Clip+ was such a disappointment compared to the Clip.

>>61676289
Shanling m2s

>>61676085
Can you even plug a headphone into one of these...?

>>61676289
Your smartphone?

>>61676305
Anything closer in price to the Clip? I don't really want to pay for a fancy touchscreen device to play music.

>>61676104
Saying the monitors are neutral is more of an assumption actually, between the circle of confusion and engineers who preffer non-neutral monitors that they are already used to you get little certainty that a neutral headphone is reproducing with fidelity what was heard in studio.
Neutrality on the consumer side ends up being more of a prefference than a requirement for high fidelity.

>>61676324
Looking for something I can leave hooked up to stuff for hours at a time, kinda awkward to do that with my phone (bluetooth from phone isn't an option).

>>61676256
That's minimum thd. Anything past half power distorts up to 10%. Dynamics will be ruined because when your speakers will require more power than a few watts (which they will) it will hit 10%.

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>>61676365
Shanling M1 maybe? Anything cheaper then you're wasting your money and might as well stick with your smartphone.

>>61676365
Why didn't you liked clip+? Rockbox works well on it.

>>61676391
If you buy a new $20 amp to run a system that you are regularly going to need more than 10W per channel out of then what do you expect? For home listening on desktop bookshelf speakers something based around the TA2020 is absolutely fine. If you want more clean power spend a few more dollars on something with a TK2050 or similar or buy a second hand Class AB job.

>Dynamics will be ruined because when your speakers will require more power than a few watts (which they will)

Try hooking up a true RMS DMM to your system and look at how much power you're actually using. Protip - for most home listening you're not using even 10W.

>>61676467
I could never get the microSD to work reliably, either with stock firmware or rockbox. Then when I decided to try it again after a few months the screen had died.

>>61676512
If you use a large microsd, say 128GB, you need to format it fat32. Winblows will do everything they can to prevent you from doing that.

New thread:
>>61676749
>>61676749
>>61676749