Safe Linux and *BSD

MX Linux ships XFCE desktop; includes antiX remastering n persistence tools
NuTyX (based on Linux From Scratch)
Obarun (based on Arch Linux)
Openwall GNU/*/Linux (Owl)
OviOS Linux (Independent)
PCLinuxOS x86_64**
Pentoo (based on Gentoo)
Pisi Linux (sysvinit + python init scripts) x86_64
Plamo Linux (based on Slackware) japanese-language distro
Plop Linux PXE/liveboot, includes systemd rescue/repair tools
Porteus (Slackware based lightweight modular live CD/USB)
Porteus Kiosk (based on Gentoo) lightweight kiosk using BusyBox
PostX (based on Debian Jessie) OpenRC init, openbox wm
Puppy Linux
Quirky supports armhf
RancherOS
Redcore Linux (based on Gentoo) OpenRC or SysV init
Refracta (based on Devuan) i386, x86_64
SalentOS (based on Debian)
Salix (based on Slackware)
SARPi
Simplicity Linux (based on Puppy Linux)
Slackel (based on Slackware+salix)
Slackware i586, s390, x86_64, arm
Slint
SliTaz (Lightweight live CD/USB using BusyBox/SysVinit) supported architectures:
Source Mage GNU/Linux (source-based distribution)
Spark Linux (based on Arch Linux) Arch Linux without systemd
Star Linux (based on Devuan)
Superb Mini Server (based on Slackware)
SystemRescueCd i586 (Gentoo/OpenRC based system rescue disk)
Tiny Core Linux,
TLD Linux
TRIOS Mia OpenRC/ZFS forum (rolling release, based on Debian Jessie) XFCE, rEFInd, OpenRC init iso images)
Uplos32 (based on PCLinuxOS)
Vector Linux (based on Slackware)
Void Linux (runit, xbps)
wifislax (based on Slackware)
Zenwalk (based on Slackware)

**PCLinuxOS has a lot of non-free software. Probably has some high degree of NSA code

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
DragonFlyBSD
FreeBSD*
Fuguita (architecture: i386) Japanese, based on OpenBSD
GhostBSD
MidnightBSD
MirBSD aka "MirOS BSD"
NetBSD
OpenBSD
PureDarwin
RaspBSD special build of FreeBSD (2016) for armhf
TrueOS* (formerly PC-BSD) supported architectures: Currently: x86_64 Forthcoming: arm, arm64.

Some BSD distros may be compromised by NSA. Free-BSD and TrueOS appears to be safe but we don't know

TempleOS

>>61651751
>OpenBSD
FBI == NSA

>>61651731
If you use an Ubuntu distro with no nonfree packages and use the linux-libre kernel, that should count as safe.

>>61651830
still can't get rid of systemd

>>61651882
I don't have an issue with systemd and neither does the great rms himself

>>61651902
go fuck yourself

>>61651932
no you go fuck yourself. as an average desktop user I don't have any issue with systemd, it just werks. If you don't like then go use a non-systemd distro and get on with your life you fucking butthurt faggot. so much for freedom of choice.

>>61651981
>so much for freedom of choice.
good luck with that when talking with basement dwellers that use tinfoil hats thinking they are somewhat relevant to even be under surveillance when the only thing they do is post useless lists and masturbate to gook cartoons of dudes with tits

>>61651731
Dynebolic predates Devuan and is totally unrelated project get your information straight, nigger

>>61652069
I never masturbated to traps, gays, trans or anything that is not a natural born woman

>>61652120
...as far as you know ;)

>>61652249
>pro-systemd so desperate to get attention
>b-but I don't fap to traps
Lennart is a well known and public faggot

>>61651763
>OpenBSD has FBI backdoors
That's some ancient FUD, my friend.

>>61651731
Some interesting distros you got there OP. Add source mage though.

>>61651731
and then
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>>61651902
>>61651981

CIAnigger detected

>>61651731
How about Alpine?

I want this lil cumcum to suck the cum outta my cock so bad

Every time I try to copy large files from my external HDD into the internal one, my Linux installation is crippled to fuck until the process finally ends. Will installing *BSD solve this problem? This didn't happen when I had Windows by the way.

Also stali, anons.

http://sta.li

>>61652696
Is a server distro, but I agree, it belongs to the list.

>>61652692
fuck you. I have the same position as rms. are you telling me that rms is a CIAnigger??

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2900305/opensource-subnet/stallman-joins-the-internet-talks-net-neutrality-patents-and-more.html

>>61652854
You are implying too much bullshit, definitely a cianigger

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>>61652892

>>61651739
>Puppy Linux

ma niggah

>>61652854
>Stallman
>knowing anything about how software works
>implying Stallman don't use a systemd-free distro in his comfy home

>>61653136
Stallman uses Trisquel... which uses systemd
Get bent you fucking moron with shit for brains.

OPENRC WILL PREVAILLLLL

>>61653151
>Stallman uses Trisquel
false

If your os uses linux, its automatically botnet. There are so many special exploits/backdoors for it.

Real secure OS:
openBSD
netBSD
mirBSD
Darwin*
Plan 9 (mostly security through obscurity and simplicity)
Inferno

>>61653167
runit
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Also you can't claim to be NSA Free if you use nonfree repos or glibc.

>>61653172
Please, kindly, go fuck yourself you uninformed asshole

https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html

>>61653218
>I use a Thinkpad X60 computer
stopped reading there

Why no fedora?

>>61653185
You forgot Haiku.

>>61653224
I have X60s and X200 with libreboot. Comfy af. Enjoy getting raped by your propriety BIOS and CPU backdoor botnet, faggot.

>>61653185
>security through obscurity
doesnt work

linux kernal has no exploits that effect the current release

>>61653236
made by NSA/Red Hat

>>61653269
>linux kernal has no exploits that effect the current release
no publicly known* exploits

>>61653261
>memepad
>backdoor free
why?

>>61653269
known*

>>61653282
You can call it a memepad all you want, but it's still a fact that mine is operated with 100% free software, from top to bottom, with no backdoors or unethical code.

>>61653269
>I don't know what security through obscurity is
Even if Linux did in fact have no exploits at this moment (which is not true, it has a shit ton), it does not have mitigations. The minute one vulnerability came up, the whole system would go down.

>>61653271
that doesnt make it botnet. redhat isnt botnet, theyre just a for profit company. NSA? i hear this said a lot but i see no nsa backdoor/ tampering

>>61653308
>redhat isnt botnet, theyre just a for profit company
And the irony in that statement was lost...

>>61651731
ITT. people who whine about dumb shit yet are getting cucked by their proprietary BIOS and CPU along with their smartphones

>>61653339
>2017
>BIOS
lmao

>>61653318
do show me one instance of fedora being botnet

>>61653245
Oh yeah i'd guess it'll go along with plan 9.

>>61653396
>has been systemdicked

>>61653396
>Sponsored by Google
>not botnet

>>61653355
This. If you can run a fucking web browser in your """"""BIOS"""""" it isnt basic anymore.

>>61653786
which motherboard offers 2kbyte non-NSA bios?

>>61653786
I don't believe there are any BIOSs with browsers.

>>61653813
he's either saying that it's really UEFI or he's retarded.

>>61653813
>>61653855
Yes I meant UEFI.

>>61653804
I dont know, your best bet is just flashing libre/coreboot on a supported board/device

>>61651731

Replace Manjaro OpenRC with Artix Linux since their developers stopped working with Manjaro and made a new spin based on Arch directly, using OpenRC by default, also they plan to support runit and s6.

>>61653886
>your best bet is just flashing libre/coreboot on a supported board/device
how do I do that? how can I check if my motherboard is compatible with librebios?

>>61651731
>when you grow a full beard but your baby face is still visible

>>61651902

Sure you don't : ^ )

Seriously, don't bother removing non-free from sources.list as long as you're sucking the NSA/systemd

>>61654974
>tfw adding non-free to sources.list is the first thing I do after a fresh Debian install

>>61651981

Hello fellow kids! It's sure hip to run systemd, now. Yep, nothing wrong or fishy about it. Don't be a square and just run systemd.

t. totally not a CIA-nigger

>>61654994

Well, since Debian sucks the NSA/systemd as well it doesn't really matter anymore.

Devuan to the rescue.

>>61655025
Devuan doesn't support my machine or I'd be using it. Was running Stretch without systemd when it first hit unstable but it'd always crash after a few days. Maybe it's different now that it's hit stable but I don't feel like fucking around with it again.

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>>61653261
This. If you aren't running a "Free as in Freedom" BIOS on your computer, you will never actually be secure.

Coreboot lusers BTFO.

>>61652069
The sad thing is that no matter how relevant I am - I am still being spied on by corporations.
It's not that I am ashamed about someone looking at my browser history (I don't really like Katty Perry, just this song...honestly). It is about my right for privacy. Right for being free and to be all by myself. Sadly, looks like it's almost impossible to do in 2017.

Linux kernel is full of NSA code you people are fucking nutters lmfao

>>61651731
>NSA using python
not even close to scared about those gay fuckers

>>61654202
Go to libreboot.org and check. It's mostly old thinkpads, ie X60, so don't expect it to be compatible.

>>61651731
All of this is real nice and handy when there are backdoors in your CPU's and compilers

>>61656451
ever since the whole Debian fiasco i've given up

>>61656451
Linux-libre kernel has no NSA code

>>61653292
Are you sure your disk doesn't have a non-free firmware?

>>61658197
Yes, I'm sure because I use the linux-libre kernel which does not allow nonfree firmware to load.

>>61657994
Link me to the Linux-Libre patches that completely remove SELINUX from the kernel.

>>61658398
If it's open source why would it need to be removed?

>>61658461
What does that have to do with anything? Bash is also open source yet shellshock went undiscovered for 25 years.

You also claimed:
>Linux-libre kernel has no NSA code

You're a liar and I wont bother waiting for those patchsets removing NSA code from Linux kernel.

>>61658529
That wasn't my post, I was simply asking what harm can an open source code do that is fully free to be inspected? Seems like you and others in this thread are having an autistic temper tantrum because the original author was a security agency 20 years ago. Maybe lay off the tinfoil hat conspiracy theories eh? If rms uses linux-libre then I'm pretty sure there's no issues with it.

>>61658529
Burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that SELinux is doing something nefarious. As yet, no one in this thread as proved anything. Learn how to make a better argument.

>>61652120
faggot

>>61658558
>>61658586
Linux-Libre shills in full defence mode over the NSA SELINUX code in their shitty kernel fork.

>>61658529
>>61658735
The people who like it understand it enough to not think it's an NSA ploy. Not to mention it would be kind of obvious to mark your NSA backdoor as having came from the NSA to begin with. Sort of a "land shark" kind of logic there.

As it stands now it's been upstream for so long that it having originated at the NSA is more trivia than anything else. The intelligence community (including military) is still the main consumer of the MLS stuff but it gets deployed all over the place including KVM.

From a firmware perspective, your Intel CPU has a management engine - an autonomous processor in the CPU, with it's own network stack and hardware override on peripherals, and whose schematics are a complete black box. If you were truly concerned about privacy you would be looking into libreboot right now as others have mentioned in this thread.

>>61651731
What about Parabola? It's even FSF recommended, have I been played?

>>61651731
>>61651739
are any of these actually usable? I know void is pretty good

>>61658856
If the FSF recommends it, then it's fine. I personally like Trisquel because that's what RMS uses. This thread is a perfect example of unregulated autism at a level so extreme that even RMS himself wouldn't descend to. I don't even think they make tinfoil hats thick enough for OP.

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>>61658921
>Trisquel because that's what RMS uses.

>>61659609
Pol is leaking yet again. Back to your containment board.

is there a usable GNU Hurd based distro?

>>61652708
Use another scheduler.

>>61653307
Opinion discarded. You are a retard.

>>61660807
It's not an opinion. It's a fact, you fucking security illiterate moron!