/hpg/ - Headphone General

What's a good in-ear with warm, clear mids, for about £100? I listen to a lot of Joni/ Nick Drake.

Sorry, re-posting from last thread.

I was looking at the 1MORE Triple Drivers, but I'm not sure.

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

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>>61648494
Best budget headphones coming through.

>>61648516
Kz zs5 quad driver. Much better IEM than 1mores.

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WHAT'S THE SECOND BEST HEADPHONE BEHIND THE AKG K872

>>61648539
Literally the best <3

>>61648539
Welcome home

>>61648565
I heard these had recessed mids. That's almost exactly what I'm trying to avoid, unfortunately. It's why I returned my Momentums (although I don't know what I was expecting really from a 'bass-heavy' set).

>>61648631
Etymotic hf5 then

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So i remember these threads were also combined with mic generals as well so I am going to ask my question here. What are the best cheap mics?

>>61648664
>>61648631
MK5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> HF5

>>61648664
>>61648746
>ear dildos with ear raping treble

Are the HD 559's worth 125€?

>>61648825
If you can, just grab 558s; they're better. The 559s are more of an upgrade to the 518s. I don't know why they didn't just include 519s into the new lineup.

>>61648768
The whole point of Etymotics is that they don't have ear-raping treble because their treble is peak-free.

>>61648703
I'd recommend a V-Moda BoomPro + headphones with a detachable cable that'll take a BoomPro, like SHP9500S. I do not recommend desk mics for gaming because your voice will sound distant and it'll pick up your typing through desk vibrations.

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>>61648956
Wow thats actually a good suggestion. Thanks

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Best mid-tier headphone coming through.

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>>61649310

>>61649310
>GUISE IM GONNA SPEND $700 ON A SHITTIER VERSION OF THE MEME600s which are already shit.

Fucking kek.

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i just ordered the shp9500 and the vmoda boompro, and i was thinking of getting an amp also, can i connect the headphone and microphone to the amp using the single jack?

>>61649393
>more comfortable
>look way cooler
>better build quality
How are they worse?

The HD800 is too heavy and their clamping force is too light.

>>61649399
You don't need a DAC/amp unless your current source is not loud enough or audibly noisy/hissy.

>>61649399
I had no issues running mine off of my motherboard 3.5mm jack, but that amp isn't bad for the money either.

>>61649412
>How are they worse?
They sound like shit.

>>61649427
its actually pretty noisy with my speakers
>>61649438
but can i use the microphone with it?

What do tube amps sound like?
Apparently they smooth the highs but what does that mean? Is it the same as what I can do with an EQ or is does it have something to do with distortion?

>>61649310
>Treble blaster Jr. Editions

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>>61649445
Who cares? You don't actually listen to music on your high end headphones, do you?

Buying the HD700 is the patricians choice, it says you have the money to buy the HD800, but chose not to do so because it's a vulgar display of disposable income.

>>61649475
>What do tube amps sound like?
Not all tube amps sound the same.
>Apparently they smooth the highs but what does that mean?
Some have rolled off treble, and yes, you can accomplish that with a simple high shelf filter.
Some tube amps have audible second order harmonic distortion which some find euphonic.

>>61649460
>but can i use the microphone with it?
If the mic has its own jack you can plug that into the onboard otherwise a $2 splitter would work.

>>61649514
This is next-level shitposting. This is beyond Plebspotters-level shitposting. Bravo.

>>61649460
>its actually pretty noisy with my speakers
It may not be noisy with your new headphones, though. Do not buy a DAC/amp until you test it with your new headphones.

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>plug HD800 into onboard
>sounds great, gets way louder than I need it to get with no hiss
>plug HD650 into onboard
>sounds ok, needs 100 windows volume on many quietly mixed tracks, a lot of hiss
???

>>61649475
They roll them off. Very few tubes reach filament saturation levels to produce high frequencies at the same level as mids or bass. Roll-off for most vacuum tubes occurs around 10khz. Some very expensive tubes, usually directly heated triodes (300b,845s) don't do this. But not only are they extremely expensive, they also use killer levels of voltage and are extremely inefficient (lots of energy in, very little output). There are some exceptions but they typically aren't used in headphone amps in the first place.

The other things to consider with tube amps are second order harmonic distortion and mid-bass sag. Second order harmonic distortion is perceived as pleasing to the ear in most people. Tube amps also cause lag in the lower frequencies (they actually take a few milliseconds to reach the transducers). These two factors in tube amps encompass the "warmth" of tube amps.

>>61649603
Headphone impedence my friend.

Are leather head cushions a bad idea? Thinking about replacing my 880 stock one since it's pretty old.

>>61649772
You should replace your shitty sounding headphones instead.

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>>61649536
the vmoda boompro actually comes with headphone and mic jack and then a splitter
>>61649567
ok thanks anon ill try it first

>>61649834
If your onboard sound ends up being noisy with your new headphones you'll need an extension cord to run the splitter to your new DAC/amp. Connecting the headphones to the DAC/amp and the mic to your onboard may create a ground loop, leading to 60 Hz buzz. If this occurs, place a ground loop isolator between the mic part of the splitter and your onboard sound (not in the audio chain as it can ruin sound quality).

>>61649804
I didn't ask for your opinion on my headphones, meanie face.

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>>61649922
>opinion
You mean objective fact.

>>61650019
>Sennheiser shills are this desperate
Would it blow your mind if I told you headphones and their sound signature are subjective?
>>61649922
>Replying to an obvious shill/shitposter

>>61649310
So, anyone know why those even exist?

>>61650136
Who are you talking to?

>>61649772
make 100% sure it isn't protein leather/pleather, that shit degrades and falls apart too quickly. alcantara is OK. washable materials would be best

>>61650234
This.

>>61650142
so seneheiser can take money off people who can only afford whatever the 700s cost

>>61649869
that would be pretty shit, aren there any amp/dac with microphone input?

>>61650245
At least they don't snap

>>61650142
Some people (like Beyerdynamic fans) confuse overbearing treble for detail; HD700 may appeal to them.

>>61650295
Who knows? At least it has treble, even maybe a bit of bass!

>>61650279
https://www.amazon.com/s/url=node%3D11973691

>>61650285
all headphones snap under sufficient pressure

>>61650234
mmm beyerdynamic only mentions that it's 'real learher' but not what kind exactly. I'll send them a mail and, thanks

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>>61650345
Some just snap a bit more than others ;)

hey, i need some advise
>Budget
30 USD, "maybe" 50
>Location
Chile (1 USD = 1000 CLP in market, btw)
>Source
J7 Prime phone and ASUS X555 laptop
>Type of headphone
Full Size
>Open or closed
Closed, it will be used a lot in the city
>Comfort level
I recently started using glasses, so it's an important point
>Sound signature
pretty much a newfag about it, btw i usually hear to "rock" and "electronica" (abridged), but a lot of other genres (also, some vydia), if it helps
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-XB450, cable got fucked up at the fork

Bonus points for detachable cable
Chink ones are also an option

>>61650408
Q U A L I T Y C H I N K P L A S T I C
N O H I G H S
N O B A S S
B E S T
H E A D P H O N E S

>>61650416
i forgot, included mic is a must, for answering calls

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>>61650408
Following the instructions in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U will prevent HD600 family from ever snapping. There is no equivalent fix for the DT770/880/990 design flaw.

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>>61650437
Well, they don't call them Snapheisers for nothing, eh, anon?

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>>61650491
>this short-term stress test totally means that a long-term stress fracture problem doesn't exist

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>>61650518
Good thing the company doesn't Jew you out $100 every time the headphones snap.
>Sennheiser owners need to follow instructions to prevent their headphone from snapping
Oh my!

>>61650557
HD600 will not snap if you do the thing in that video, but DT770/880/990 will snap no matter what. Your position in this debate is untenable.

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>Poor AF
>Always wanted to try Grados
>Could never afford Grados thanks to taxes and the fact it only sells from the US.
>see this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/POYATU-Wood-Headphone-HiFi-Minitor-Bass-Headphones-With-Stainless-Headband-On-Ear-Head-Phones-Music-Wooden/32811989313.html
>Tottaly affordable
>Might sound like Grados...
>Might not...

Should I take the risk?

>>61650575
>>61650575
>You need to follow instructions to prevent your headphones from snapping
I'd laugh, but this isn't the first time Sennheiser had issues with chink shit plastic

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>>61650628
Pic related

>>61650591
Would Alessandro MS-1 be affordable where you live? They're basically a Grado.

>>61650628
>they will only snap if you're too stupid to be able to follow simple directions
I don't see a problem.

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>>61650675
>The majority of the userbase
The Snapheiser meme wasn't born out of thin air, anon.

>>61650341
thanks anon

>>61650651
Thanks for the reply anon
Actually, I could try to buy the cheapest grado model
(sr60e) but the taxes from buiyng US products are somehow way higher than chinese ones.
So the Alessandro MS-1 would fit in the same problem...
It's like buying two at once.

But chinese imports might not even be taxed at all. So I ended up aquiring the habit of buying cheap chinese headphones and IEMs such as a Somic v2(that I love), a KZ ATEs (wich is ok), an old moxpad x3(Sounds fantastic but build quality is on par) and a kz zs5 that is arriving in a month(hope its good)

>>61650948
>ZS5
They're good though you might want new tips

>>61649412
>HD800 heavy and tight
Not. True. Try comfy.

Does the M-Audio speakers snap?

>>61651427
>cant read

>>61649310
Could have been a good replacement for HD6xx if not for treble rape due to both higher peak than on HD800 and no gain before it. Sennheiser nailed them in terms of comfort tho, still light and not on your head like HD800 but with an actual clamp, too bad they sound like shit. We need HD750, basically an HD600 but with better bass and overal clean sound of HD800, not grado meets sennheiser meets beyerdynamics.

>>61649399
No, you'll have to use your motherboard

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wiuld it be feasable to do a detachable cable mod on these JVC HA-MR77X's, the cable is starting to go, one channel dies out unless you position the cable in a particular way

>>61651745
Yes.

>>61651745
No.

>>61651745
Maybe.

>Budget
$150ish maybe a little more
>Source
Desktop
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Pretty important to me as I will be wearing them quite a bit. I don't mind paying for third party ear pads/cushions if necessary
>Sound signature
I don't know enough to say. It will be mostly for playing games so I would love bassy explosions, nice sharp crack for gunshots, clear footsteps. Would love your opinions.
>Past headphones
"gaming headset" pleb up to this point. Will probably get a modmic 4 to attach for gaming purposes.

>>61648923
Not the MK5, I own all Etymotics besides the ER4B, the MK5 is too bright for my tastes though it is more neutral than the HF5.

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Guys, why is the HD700 so fucking bad? I bought a pair and wanted to love them, but they sound worse than the HD650 in terms of sound signature, and don't even come close to the HD800's imaging and clarity. It's annoying because they are in my opinion the most comforable and best looking headphones Snapheiser makes.

Did they deliberately make a shit headphone to make the HD800 look like good value by comparison?

>>61648518
Kill yourself poorfag.

>>61651856
Custom Studio

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>Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 Wireless
>Sony h.ear mdr-1000abn Wireless

Which one of these Bluetooth headphones is better? I'm switching to wireless bc my next phone probably won't have a headphone jack. So I'm gonna just embrace the wireless future.

>>61652269
>wireless

>>61652269
I was really underwhelmed by the momentums, so I would give the sonys a chance

>>61652293
What was wrong with them? They've gotten a lot of good reviews

>>61652269
i'd pick the momentum if only for the build alone. Looks more durable, and doesn't fold (bad thing for me) unlike the sony.

not like sound clarity/quality actually differs that much past $200, sound signature can be EQ'd anyways, and so the next important thing is the longevity of the headphones.

Most importantly are the earpads. The momentum look like the standard slip ons, but in comparison, the MDR-1000 looks like it has some weird propriety crap like AKG.

>>61651856
>>61652228
You can also get a BoomPro

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>adjustment on my HD800 wont stay in the same fucking place

>>61652383
Ya fucked up.

Why are replacement cables so expensive
If I use a normal cable (no vacuum etc)
Would that significantly degrade the sound quality?

Is there a point to upgrade from Superlux 662s to other closed backs sub 100 €?

>>61653829
Better comfort, detachable cable, not chink shit.

>>61648664
>>61651874
>>61648746

I own a pair of Etymotic HF5, whenever someone shitposts about ear-raping treble, those earphones spring to mind, I cannot listen to them without heavy EQ'ing

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Greatest headphones of all time coming through for 7 dollars

>>61653860
Don't these EQ really well or is that a different model?

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>>61653842
WHAT FAGGOT

WHAT HAS BETTER COMFORT A DETACHABLE CABLE AND ISNT CHINK SHIT

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What headphones have the biggest/best soundstage? Is it the HD800?

>>61648494
I want to lick her feet

>>61653887
SHP9500/558
>>61653907
I would think 800 then K712 since the HD800 has a weird thing going on with its vertical soundstage
>>61653934
Boy, it's a cartoon

>>61653860
>What is RP-HJE125
Dumbass

>>61653953
>a weird thing going on with its vertical soundstage
What is dis?

>>61654029
It legit has heighth. You've heard soundstage always being described as width and depth. HD 800 has heighth.

>>61654061
I own a set of HD800's, what do I listen for? Never heard them described as having some magical third axis of sound, all I notice is the sound stage is really, really big.

>>61653953
SHP9500 is open and both are well above 100 €.

>>61654076
Idk, try playing games like Quake Live or some other shit that has shit going on above and below.
>>61654087
Both are more comfortable (if they're anything like 668B stock pads, they're way more confortable)
>b-but they're open
Sucks to suck
>above €100
SHP9500 goes on sale for $50 pretty frequently and 558 goes for $70 pretty often.
>under €100
CB-1
XPT100
Pro80/Pro82

>>61653907
That's a boy

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Are the T1's basically just a poor man's HD800?

>>61650557
>>61650518
>>61650491
>>61650437
>>61650408

I'm always afraid of this whenever I buy new headphones, are the Fidelio X2's prone to anything like it?, that's currently the headphone I use.

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>>61650591
You don't want them, they smell like africans

>>61654616
It's a trade-off so that you don't have to worry about the termites anymore.

>>61648494
is that articuno?

>>61654500
no, they sound better than hd800

>>61654690
>

>>61654616
>tfw bought non-termite-proof headphones
>tfw they got eaten up within 6 months

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Just bought these badboys. What am I in for?

>~£200 ($260)
>UK
>Phone
>Full sized over ear
>Closed
>Comfy for at least 1.5h
>DT770, Bose QC 25

For the office. Isolation is an important. Replacing returned DT770 after they broke 11months in. Would like something solid that won't break but that's a secondary consideration.

>>61654922
comfy

the over $200 link on the wiki is dead

The H600 on most websites costs around 290 ish
Does their price drop lower than this during holiday sales and such and should I wait til then?

>>61655544
Consumer electronics don't go on sale dude.

>>61655553
So its 290 a good price for the HD600 as their price does fluctuate?

>>61652269
>take nice piece of fragile technology you have to wear
>place it on some rusty piece of shit literally turned brown from animals pissing on it
>then take them home, push that lovely dog piss leather into your skin and hair

nice one

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>tfw joined m50x mid-range master race

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L700 or HD800?

Daily reminder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ

>>61649603
WHAT THE FUCK ARE AMPS

>>61652100
dunno because the 650 still makes the 800 look like a bad value just because the 800 is 3 times the price for little gain imo
then again, that's audiophile standard of diminishing gains

>>61656288
>650 still makes the 800 look like a bad value just because the 800 is 3 times the price for little gain imo
Meh I dunno. I tried going back to my HD650 a few days ago and they kind of sounded like shit by comparison. Listening to them back to back the difference in sound stage is really obvious and makes a big difference in my opinion, they also sound a lot less clouded. I agree on them not being worth 3x as much though, I don't regret buying them but from a price to performance perspective they are 1.5x as good, tops.

HD700 just doesn't make any sense to me, it just sounds like a boring 650 without the 800's soundstage or clarity.

>>61652100
As far as I know team responsible for HD700 was a different one from HD800, and so this new team tried to do something for normies aka low impedance and V shaped signature. For reasons unknown they didn't mind making HD700 even more treble heavy than HD800, already trebly, and just upped the spike and removed treble gain before it to rape our ears. Comfort is really superb, basically and HD800 level but not so oversized and with an actual clamp. Too bad their stock sound is shit and while they image decent they don't reach levels of an HD800, look up their jiggly square wave vs smooth one on HD800, and their bass is much more distorted than on HD800, it's actually HD650 levels FAIL. I am actually baffled how the fuck Sennheiser gave birth to this abomination, we needed an affordable HD6xx replacement before HD800 with better comfort, clarity and bass, not a screeching banshie.

I hope you can return them, otherwise EQ helps you. Also, I hope you bought them for 400$ or less.

>>61656288
Except HD800 is clearly better listening than HD650 even with an EQ. It's not 3 times better, but for those keen to pay the price it's a noticeable improvement. Now we wait for Sennheiser to release their next flagship HD820 or whatever the fuck they got. I am very curious what they will bring to the table.

>>61656414
>Comfort is really superb, basically and HD800 level but not so oversized and with an actual clamp
Really my thoughts exactly. The HD700 fits so fucking well but sound so bad. For comfort in my opinion it's 700>>>650=800. The 800's are annoyingly big and want to slip off your head if you lean around, but the 650's cups aren't deep enough for me and my ears touch the insides. 700 for me had no problems comfort wise, they just disappear on your head. It's just a shame such a great aesthetic/comfort was paired with such dogshit sounding drivers, if the HD700 cost like 75% as much as a HD6XX it would maybe make sense, but where it is it's just retarded.

>I hope you can return them, otherwise EQ helps you. Also, I hope you bought them for 400$ or less.
I bought them a long time ago, maybe two years ago now, I was just reminiscing. I got them from Amazon while I still had free Prime so I had nothing to lose by testing them out as it's free shipping both ways. They were boxed up and ready to be sent back and refunded within about 6 hours of me first trying them.

>HD820
Hopefully they are closed, I'd like a closed HD800, I get it's kind of against the whole point of the HD800 being about sound stage, but I still wonder what they'd be like. Too bad you can't close HD800's yourself because even if you DIY close the mesh stuff, there's still the silver see through stuff which you can do nothing about.

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>>61648494
HD558 VS SHP9500?

Im going to get an HD600 and Magni 2

How am I supposed to know if im going to need a DAC?

>>61656700
Turn your audio source (computer) to max. If you hear hissing you need a dac.

>>61656534
HD600 small cups are really shite for me, especially when I got them right after dropping HD598. Good to hear that you returned them, would have been a rather bitter purchase otherwise. I really have no idea how Sennheiser made HD700, all their other high end headphones were among the best at given price point and HD800 still is an end game for many, altho elear are much easier to listen to but they don't image so well, don't have vast soundstage, lack same clarity and have a retarded dip in upper treble vs HD800 ringing.
>Hopefully they are closed, I'd like a closed HD800, I get it's kind of against the whole point of the HD800 being about sound stage, but I still wonder what they'd be like.
Maybe they will ditch the whole 'MUH SOUNDSTAGE' thing and will just give a ok, for closed, soundstage with more easy going sound. Or maybe they will integrate some technology they developed along with an Orpheus, if such thing is possible, into their next flagship. I just wish for more easy going sound with same imaging and clarity, even if it means smaller soundstage, HD800 can sometimes get a bit too wide.

>>61657154
Do I do dis when something is playing or would it be audible even at idle/when it's meant to be silent?

>>61656633
RP-HT161

>>61656633
Shp9500 Sennheiser gits gud at HD600

>>61655995
L700 is for weeaboos and hd800 is babbies first thousand dollar headphones. Go for a used orpheus or sr 009 if you're too poor

>>61657229
music off

>>61657342
So if I have everything at max and I don't hear any hiss, I'm golden? What if I hear a slight hiss in some music, is it just a shitty master?

>>61657380
yeah its in the music then. 90% of onboard dac's are just fine

>>61657396
ty senpai

>>61656700
you can't even use your Magni2 without RCA inputs

Why not just get a Fulla2 or E10K instead? Or a stronger DAC/amp combination out there if you need more juice for your other headphones. Having them discrete is just overkill. A DAC is just a DAC.

>>61657466
A 3.5mm to RCA cable won't break the bank

>>61648539
Very good but I'd like to know how chifi iems compare?
Those Philips are seriously great for desktop use though.

>>61656700
Dac x6. It's a dac amp and puts out way more power than the fulla 2

>>61656633
HD 558.

>>61655544
Look on ebay, they're a fair bit cheaper used.

Hey I redpilled myself on gaming headsets and have been wanting to move to higher quality headphones.

Anyone got any suggestions for headphones to play videogames with? I've been leaning towards getting a Sennheiser brand, such as the 558s.

>>61655544
>>61655591
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Sennheiser-Open-Back-Professional-Headphone/product/B00004SY4H?context=search

>>61659097
V-moda Boompro + something compatible like Beyer custom pro one.

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How good is Realtek ALC898? They drive my HD600 about loud enough, but some quieter songs are needing like 75/100 volume on Windows, and I notice a little bit of a noise floor but I'm not sure if thats in the recording or if it's the amp itself.

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friend of mine wants a "gaming headset" that's better than his current Razer Kraken Chroma
budget is up to $100, and he wants analog only
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SAYCXWG/
could only find that within the price range, does anyone have any other options?

on a tight budget, trying to replace my super ghetto stereo receiver/nigger rigged headphones with something better
would a micca origen+ & Philips SHP9500 be a good replacement? I've got a old ass workstation motherboard, so the onboard audio isn't the best, plus I like to have a external knob for volume

>>61659507
>analog only
What does that even mean?

Anyway, tell him to either get a $80 pair of headphones that aren't a piece of shit and pair it with a $20 mic, or go kill himself. Snapheiser HD558's are top-tier for gaming because of their soundstage and regularly go on sale for $100, takes 5 minutes to rip the retarded foam out and turn them into a 598.

>>61648539
Second that, crazy good sound for the price.

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>>61659602
>>61648539
>not sold in the UK
>permanently attached earcups

Can someone redbull me on (co-)rotational velocidensity and why it matters? All I can find on google are some obscure joke references, I'm assuming it's something mostly shared on private enthusiastic boards

>>61659596
>What does that even mean?
his current ones are USB and they seem to cause him no end in problems
is the modmic worth the price? seems expensive for a basic mic with some adhesive on it

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Any good amps to pair with the CB-1'S? I made the mistake of buying them thinking they would be a significant upgrade from my rosewill preludes, they only are in bring comfortable, the mids are less muddy but I'm just disappointed really, even my friends beats are better (dont go crazy, he got them for 120$ on eBay and they are the studio 2.0 wireless) price to sound that's pretty good, even though i know many of you are gonna jump me for even saying beats are good

Tl;dr need an amp for my CB-1's that's cheap but good

>>61659668
>is the modmic worth the price?
It's pretty expensive for what it is but it sounds good and it lasts forever. I think mine is four years old and still going on strong, and you can use it with any headphones you get in the future.

>>61659507
CB-1 and BoomPro. It's just over his budget but it's worth every penny.

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Using these,they are actually ok desu

>>61653881
Yes: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/6-panasonic-rp-hje120-surprisingly-usable.594945/page-3#post-13576623
>>61654020
Reviews seem to suggest the 120 are generally preferred over the 125.

>>61654500
That's giving them too much credit. They're a poorman's DT880.

>>61656633
HD558 because you can replace the earpads.

>>61660137
>veiled mudheisers

>>61656700
Run your PC's line-in to your Magni 2 with a 3.5mm stereo to RCA stereo adapter. If the sound is hissy, you need a DAC.

>>61660116
>They're a poorman's DT880.

You're right, the DT 880 is the best dynamic headphone in the world according to Ken Rockwell

>>61659097
BoomPro + SHP9500S is the de facto /g/ standard headset.

>>61660148
Thank you for your shitpost.
>>61660163
Thank you for pointing out what headphones a photographer likes.

>>61659097
ModMic + SDM Modded HD800's are the /g/ approved gaming setup.

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Find a flaw.

>>61660189
>Thank you for your shitpost.
>Stating the objective truth
>Shitpost

>>61660208
They are literally flawless. They are obscure enough so when people see you in public wearing them they are taken aback, but popular enough to be known as the god-tier endgame headphone. Whenever I wear mine in public I always wear a full suit and my fake Rolex Submariner, just so people know they are dealing with someone important. I also crank the volume up as loud as they can possibly go so everyone around me can hear them and I draw maximum attention to myself, but of course I wear earplugs to save my hearing.

>>61660208
1000 dollar ear rape treble cannons

>>61660208
It's not a RP-HT161.

>>61660246
>1000 dollar
Pocket change.
>ear rape
They sound crisp and clear, quite the opposite to rape.
>treble cannons
You mean they have a defined and full treble.

>>61660246
bet you've never even heard them

>>61648518
HD580

>>61660264
Look, we all know the HD 600 is the reference for a neutral headphone, therefore anything that has more treble than a HD 600 is treble rape.

>>61660268
I don't need do, I just look at the frequency response graph and draw conclusions from them. Why would I want to put my hearing at risk by listening to treble cannons?

>>61660240
lol

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>>61660293
>I don't need do, I just look at the frequency response graph and draw conclusions from them.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions. Just another expert who has no experience.

>>61660293
>Never tested something
>Thinks he knows about it
that explains a lot.

>>61660293
>put my hearing at risk by listening to treble cannons
Source showing that certain FR present more risk than others, faggot.

>>61660391
>>61660419
Not the guy you're replying to. You are either samefagging or you are literally autistic since you're not able to detect tongue-in-cheek language.

>>61660391
>>61660419

>muh subjective feelings vs actual measurements
>>>/r/headphones

>>61660445
Of course higher frequencies pose a higher risk you fucking retard. It doesn't matter what ear protection you wear, lower frequencies always have a much easier time reaching your ears because they are more penetrative, but not as damaging. It's the reason you can stick your head in a subwoofer, or stand half a mile away from that bullshit NASA machine that makes clouds, and you'll be fine, but fire a gun next to your head and your hearing will be fucked.

>>61660492
Go listen to measurements some more, i bet you think HD600 is faithfull to what the engineers litened on studio too.

>>61660508
No source, i thought so, fun fact, there actually are articles on the subject if you look for them, but you wouldn't like them since they don't agree with you either.

>>61660475
the problem with satire is that it's rather hard to differentiate it from extremism, both of which are very common here.

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is the Creative Sound Blaster Omni any good? i use linux btw

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

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>>61660796

>>61660492
>not using subjective feelings for a subjective product

>>61660878
What's the point, dude? He clearly tested one or two good headphones and that's it.

>>61654922
Disappointment, i got mine in the mail the other day

>>61660208
6kHz resonance
weak bass
artificial decay
angled drivers, artificial soundstage
bulky
single-hinge for huge cups
cable tips are too long and will break easily, replacements are $$$
comically overdone exterior styling, as if it was done by a 14-year-old

off the top of my head

>>61661048
>artificial decay
>angled drivers, artificial soundstage
What?

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>>61648539
has anybody done the HPAEC940 earpad mod with the 3d printed ring adaptor?

>>61661048
>artificial decay
>artificial soundstage
care to explain wtf this even means?

>>61661048
Angled drivers are a good thing.

what headphones would /hbg recommend for a newheadphonefag.

>Budget
150 flexible
>Location
US fo course
>Source
Desktop
>Type of headphone
Open headphones
>Comfort level
I would like them comfy but the sound quality is a priority
>Sound signature
Neutral or none I think?
>Past headphones
Some Sony over ear that my brother gave to me, they don't sound bad and Im fond of them but they are starting to fail on the left channel.

>>61661333
SHP9500S, HD558, HD579

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best cheap headphones

>>61661340
thanks

>>61654922
Nice and comfy, sound great. Although I feel like mine are ever so slightly louder in the left cup.

>>61661403
>100 ft long cable

>>61661442
>100ft cable that is half a millimeter thick and feels like it will break any second
>non-replacable
Huge piece of shit.

>>61661403
These actually lasted me a really long time. Good purchase in my case anyway.

>>61661403
Those aren't the RP-HJE120 or KSC75

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>>61660796

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Lots of HD800 love in /hpg/ tonight, that's pretty unusual.

SDR mod is a must for these cans, it will elevate them into another level. I prefer a modded HD800 than the HD800S since the bass is less looser, hits harder and have better definition.

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Looking for new in earphones around £30/£35 to replace my Piston Hybrid's
I already asked and got some recommendations. Can't decide between them though.

What do you think /hpg/? Get another set of Piston's, the KZ ATE/ATR's, Rock Zircon, or the Soundmagic E10's?

The Soundmagics are practically double the price of the others, so unless they're considerably better I'm not too keen on them. Any suggestions from the bunch? Want something a bit bassy and I've been happy with my Piston 2's and Hybrids. Thanks

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>>61662203
>bass is less looser... and HAVE better definition
>any Haganai but Rika as waifu
>treble cannons
>John Mayer

>>61662203
>Lots of HD800 love in /hpg/ tonight, that's pretty unusual.
People usually don't love what they can't pay for.

>>61661115
I've washed my earpads 3 times now and they are still going strong. I'd like to switch eventually though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW2txDV5UNQ

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Budget amp for the CB-1S?

>>61654616
Perfect, gf will love them.

>>61662357
KZ ZS5
>>61662617
They probably won't need one as they're fairly efficient

>>61662203
>Lots of HD800 love in /hpg/ tonight, that's pretty unusual.

the hd 600 shitposters are sleeping

>>61662725
This

>>61662767
Hold on, let me wake them up.

>"The DT 880 is an excellent neutral headphone with excellent comfort and build quality"

>>61662714
They don't really sound as alive as other headphones though, i thought they could somehow sound better, and by alive like, they seem pretty quiet on mobile and dont sound as full, hard to explain but i guess you get the gist

>>61662879
How budget we talking here?

>>61662906
Probably 50$ and under (can't make money as of late but should be able to soon)

>>61659831
me 2

Is the Massdrop HD6xx a scam or is it actually worth it? Its only 200 compared to the normal price.

>>61653853
That's funny because the HF5 lacks treble.

You're obviously inserting it wrongly.

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>>61659617
You can take them off.

>>61656633
9500S. Better at (almost) everything if you don't mind the slight treble grain at higher volumes.

>>61654528
>Fidelio X2
>The metal headband snapping at all

>>61662203
The treble hits harder too, SDR treble isn't nearly as good as the HD800S.

Also you would barely be able to tell the difference in bass (aside from it not being as rolled off) were you not aware of the inaudible differences in distortion.

>>61661220
And very hard to execute well, T1 is an example of what goes wrong when you just stick an angled driver in an existing headphone.

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What would be a nice inexpensive solution for making my pair of Status Audio Cb-1s wireless?

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Any reason why these don't get recommended more often? The bass seems to extend pretty far.

>>61662934
FiiO K1. It's a nice budget DAC though doesn't push a ton of power though that's expected at this pricepoint.
>>61663581
A bluetooth reciever can be plugged into the 3.5mm female im the headphone.

>>61663660
Some anon mentioned build quality a few generals ago, but other than that, they're pretty comfy if that's the sound signature you're looking for.

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>>61662714
I'm not sure I like how the KZ's look. Are they comfortable? I've never owned earphones of that type, just looks strange

>>61662357
Anyone got any other suggestions? Torn here

>>61663736
They're pretty comfy though aren't worn straight down but rather the wire goes up and runs around your ear. It's pretgy comfy, reduces noise caused by the cord moving around and keeps a better grip and seal in your ear. The Tennmak Pro is another IEM to consider if your big concern is comfort.

>>61663660
because you can get hd6xx for the same price

>>61663660
Build quality seems a bit iffy, there's more bass than the K712 as that already extends far but may come off somewhat sloppy to some.

>>61663815
>The bass seems to extend pretty far
>HD6XX
Hmmm..

Looking for speakers/monitors for around $300 that have a good balance of bass and highs.
Stuff like the Alesis M1 Mk2's are too bass-driven for perspective.

>>61663914
LSR305

>>61663808
I wouldn't say my big concern, just that I haven't ever had earphones like those. Seems more fiddly to put in, though maybe that's not the case.

What's wrong with the ones I picked out? None of them recommended? I thought the Soundmagic's were supposed to be good.
Reposting my buying guide just in case someone else wants to chip in
>Budget
£20, willing to stretch to £30 if it's going to make a considerable difference
>Location
UK, would prefer to buy off Amazon
>Source
Laptop, Phone, PC
>Type
IEM's
>Preferred Sound
Slightly bassy, I tried the Piston 3's and didn't like them as much as the Piston Hybrid's. Noise isolation is also important.

>>61663924
This

Active Speaker Guide:

Under $1000/pair:

JBL LSR305

Above $1000/pair:

Genelec M040
Neumann KH120

>>61657466
>Implying the Fulla 2 can power the HD600

>>61663544
T1 is an example of what goes wrong when incompetent Beyersremorse engineers try to copy competent Sennperior engineers.

>>61664065
>ATE/ATR
SupaBass
>Rock Zircon
Fragile
>E10
I've heard good things about them. They're V-Shaped so the mid recession would make vocals and instruments quieter while the boosted bass and treble can overwhelm them at times. The E30 is still V-Shaped but a less intense/more neutral E10, the PL50's are more neutral than E30's.

>>61662203
whats a good price for a used HD800?

>>61664430
A lot of them float around $600-800 USD. On the AVExchange subreddit, you can try checking out a frequent Sennheiser seller on there by the name of paintballer.

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>Budget
$150 with shipping at most, anything above is "what am i doing with my life" territory
>Location
Europe/Bulgaria
>Source
Sansa Clip+
>Type of headphone
Closed, in ear
>Comfort level
I can deal with pain.
>Sound signature
Balanced
>Past headphones
Etymotic MC5, Sennheiser CX 300 II, HD600

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>>61664494
>subreddit
>reddit

What do the HD600s sound like?

>>61664980
Like like bathing in a rainbow in the middle of a field of blooming lilies while listening to smooth jazz through a diamond boombox.

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>>61664879
KZ ZS5
>>61664980
like Ned Flanders in sexy ski gear

>>61664980
>"It's like having two Michelin men fucking your head"

-Zeos

>>61659617
>europoor
your opinion does not matter

>>61664903
Expected response. If you don't want cheap 800s, get a new pair.

>>61661220
no

>>61665212
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/brilliant-sennheiser-hd-800
>it provides better imaging by being angled back towards the ears from a slightly forward position thereby emitting a rather more planar wave front than a normal headphones driver

>>61665200
>unironically advocating for reddit

fuck off

>>61665252
explain what a planar wave front is

>>61665275
If you aren't poor, grab a new pair

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>>61665252
But that's because of the tractrix ring.

>>61665301
>unironically buying 1k treble cannons

>>61665344
>asking where to buy used 1K treble cannons

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>>61665341
Very similar to a tractrix.

>>61664980
Like listening to music being under the surface of a puddle of mud.

>>61660208
>Rining
>Clamp is too loose
>A bit to hollow in upper treble (altho this is a part of le soundstage)
>Bass is good but loses to playnars
Otherwise it's the best open dynamic headphone on the marker with only elear coming close but instead of rining resonance it has a retarded dip around 8K. HD800S is nice but bass quality is debatable, I am really interested in what Sennheiser will bring as their next flagship, hopefully one on the new level and not just a fix like HD800S.

>>61665571
The dip is 4-5K. 8K is a couple dB too loud

>>61665571
>it has a retarded dip around 8K
I've been seeing several manufacturers seemingly intentionally putting dips in the frequency response around 7.5 kHz, presumably to counteract acoustic impedance mismatches between driver and ear canal which manifest themselves in audible ~7.5 kHz peaks. I think I remember reading about Phillips intentionally doing this for this very reason.

>>61665640
It's a very narrow peak and the frequency varies from person to person. So trying to compensate for it with driver tweaks doesn't sound like a good idea at all.

>>61665571
>the best open dynamic headphone
http://kenrockwell.com/audio/beyer/dt-880.htm

The Beyer DT 880 is the best dynamic headphone I've ever heard, regardless of price.

It is a favorite among professional recording engineers for its accuracy, and a favorite among music lovers for its clean, open, uncolored and faithful-to-the-concert-hall sound. I greatly prefer this Beyer DT 880 to the far more expensive Sennheiser HD 800.

I liked this DT 880 so much that I bought it after reviewing it, and the more I listen, the more I love it!

>>61648494
My audio interface has a really high output impedance. But I can't think it would be able to play up 250+ Ohm headphones.
What do?

>>61665815
I enjoyed this review of headphones by a photographer. Do you have a speaker review by a gay pornstar by any chance?

>>61665975
>I have a BSEE engineering degree and was just granted my first US Patent 6,473,701 in October 2002.

technical background though

>>61665975
Male or fe(male)?

>>61665975
Very good point. That's why I only listen to people sponsored and certified by Sennheiser, because only then I can be sure they know what they're talking about!

>>61665815
Sound stage though

>>61665975
I enjoyed this ad hominem by anonymous. Do you have a shitpost by non-gay-anonymous by any chance?

>>61665614
Stupid me, need to sleep.
>>61665640
Tyll mentioned it somewhere as well. While I won't say it's stupid, just like taking into the account gain of ear canal, to my ears they overshoot by too much. Utopia, which I didn't get to hear, has a more gradual treble roll off with a bump before it goes down even tho it starts off with steeper roll off. Another thing that I can derive from my listening experience and explain through graphs that dip is only part of the problem, it's the treble spike >>61665614 that makes it stand out. People didn't really report Utopia as having uneven dips as it has general treble roll off all the way through with 2 equal spikes instead of a single big one.

>>61665815
Even before coming here and witnessing all the vevelheiser and ear rape beyer treble mamays I spend one and a half hour in store swapping HD600 and DT880. I was recommended to try X2 but instantly noped them. My previous headphone was HD598, I was looking toward auditioning and getting HD600 but person in store recommended me to try DT880. I brought up with myself my macbook and several flac tracs, some jazz, lots of weeb and just a track of electronic music and one classical track. It was hard, DT880 sounded 'faster' and had better bass, also 'cleaner' but somehow missed some parts of the song that HD600 didn't, it was very apparent on one track which I listened to 10 times swapping headphones. I also knew that DT880 would fatigue me with my long listening times so I went with an HD600. Also vocal presence of HD600 really spoke to my heart. DT880 is still a decent headphone and is better for bass heavy electronic music, but I am sure it can fatigue in the long run and headphones do this by default. X2 tho, so shit I took them off in 5 seconds, put them back to give another try and just returned, comfort and build tho.

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>>61665815
http://kenrockwell.com/audio/audio-technica/ath-m50.htm
>On direct comparison, the ATH-M50 sound about 90% as clean as the $3,000 Stax Omega.

>>61666093
That's a pretty large 10%

>>61666070
>Tries different headphones
>Pics favorite one but thinks the other option is good too
You are a rare case around here, Anon.

>>61666070
>somehow missed some parts of the song that HD600 didn't
That's called having no mids.

>>61666152
>No bass or no mids
All part of the trade off desu

>>61666197
>>61666152
Can't you guys just EQ it?

>>61666287
HD600 is a headphone with very low technical ability for people who are too stupid to EQ.

>>61666093
law of diminishing returns

>>61666197
HD600 have excellent bass extension when measured with a good seal.
>>61666350
The point is that the M50 are fucking shit.

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>>61666367
>HD600 have excellent bass extension

>>61666328
lol, on a serious note though, i do have access to both, i wonder if by basing the EQ on measurements from different sources you could "swap" the signatures of the two to the point a blind listener wouldn't be able to tell which is which except for the pads.

>>61666124
It's just a matter of preference. Ive seen beyers owners say that HD600 is fatiguing and had no idea why, but then I remembered how vocals hump your ears on HD600 so here you go.

>>61666152
No, the difference between HD600 and DT880 that also revealed for me more music on one headphone than on another is in lower treble. DT880 has this area slightly recessed while HD600 slightly boosted. This is also why HD650 exists, not just for a bass boost.

Unfortunately my journey to the headphone world ended recently with a visit to doctor after questioning was it HD600 driver mismatch or my ears. I have a dip in upper frequencies in my left ear, most likely due to the long exposure to headphones since I was a kid, altho I didn't like to listen on loud volumes afaik. Now I can burn my money on speakers tho, I am not done yet you...faggis :D. Take care of your ears anons, go visit a doctor for a check, as stupid as it may sound I had no idea hearing loss is rather long exposure than a momentary overextension to the loud sound. Altho I am probably autistic enough to notice it and rest don't give a fuck, I kept asking people around and they said that yeah sometimes I feel that one of my ears is a bit blocked but who cares lol. Altho just NOW studies been popping up on scientists restoring hearing hairs on a deaf mouse here and there.

>>61666328
Brining up HD600 sub-bass didn't go much good to it, it became loose and started to interfere with the rest of the song most likely due to distortion. Brining sub-bass on my friend's HD800 tho didn't turn ind to the blob and I could still hear all other frequencies without sub bass bleeding in.

>>61666407
>lower treble
a.k.a. upper mids.

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>>61666440
>>61666407
Oy vey pic felt off. Upper mids by a stretch, a decent stretch. Otherwise DT880 mids were clean and clear.

>>61666407
10/10 post, anon.
>>61666124

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>>61666070
>>61666407

DELETE THIS

BEYERDYNAMICS ARE PURE EAR RAPING TRASH

apparently a tiny Fiio E10K can power HD650/6XX at hi gain.

Does the gain/dB even matter? Or is it typically better for an amp to power a headphone at lower dB/gain when possible? I assume there must be some sort of change in signal/noise ratios around there, but I don't know which setting is better.

>>61665965
Noone? I need open backs.

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>>61666545

>>61666660 new thread

What's the difference between these two? Hybrid QTEJ02JY vs Hybrid QTER01JY? I have the latter

https://www.amazon.co.uk/QTEJ02JY-Headphone-Mic-Silver-Pro-HD/dp/B01NBAVDIG/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xiaomi-QTER01JY-Original-Earphone-Headphone/dp/B019FBWOSA/

>>61664304
So the ZS5's are your best bet?
What's shit is I can't find them on Amazon, except for £30 and they'd come in a month or so, which is too long. I might have to rule them out unfortunately

>>61666407
>Brining up HD600 sub-bass didn't go much good to it, it became loose and started to interfere with the rest of the song most likely due to distortion.
Just curious how many decibels you tried to add at lower frequencies.

Dumb question. Does it matter if I buy earpads now or later to futureproof?

Do earpads go "bad" if they're just sitting in storage or something? dumb question probably but I just want to make sure. I don't expect the OEM earpads to be available forever for some headphones.

>>61666733
Not him. A proper HD600 EQ job would reduce 30 Hz - 800 Hz response and boost 20 Hz response by 2.5 dB.

>>61666742
Depends on the pads, V6 for example requires new pads rather fast, other options might last longer.

>>61666703
>They'd come in a month or so
They are chinese after all, though they are pretty damn good with new tips.
The E30 would be pretty good though.

>>61667502
Can't find the E30's on Amazon. The ZS5's seem good but like I said, the wait is just too long.

>>61668453
http://www.gearbest.com/earbud-headphones/pp_641227.html
Took a week to ship to Australia with a $3 shipping charge.