/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General

>>61648466
Shit, wrong last thread. This was the real one. >>61640479

>>61648466
I just played the PSVR and Rift at best buy - surprisingly, I feel like the PSVR had better quality. The shooting-bugs game was more fun and immersive than the demos I played on the Rift.

>>61648582
The game you played, Farpoint, is indeed one of the best crafted VR titles out there especially because it uses a specialized gun peripheral. But it's also pretty much the only game using it that's actually high quality. Arizona Sunshine is another that uses the Aim controller but it's not as good of a game.

You probably missed out a lot on what PC VR offers by trying the Best Buy setup.

>Check news.
>Multiple articles about VR dying because AltspaceVR is closing next month.
>Nobody thinks that maybe it's because other apps are better than it.

>>61650114
Or how they were also hit by a patent troll apparently.

>>61650125
Well that's sucky.

>>61648466
Is there a discord for VR gaming (to discuss which games are worth buying)

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>launch steamVR
>computer instantly starts screaming like a thousand hells
>put headset on and it quiets down a bit
>launch a game that uses steam VR
>50/50 chance that the screeching stops

Th-that's ok I didn't want to enjoy my $400 product anyway.

>>61650649
Yeah SteamVR kind of behaves weirdly like that. Don't worry about it. It's still beta. Valve will fix it some time probably.

I bought touch controllers at best buy because Amazon was taking forever. But Amazon says they can't cancel my unshipped order. Do I keep both and set up a 4 sensor space? Or return one set to best buy?

>>61650988
Return to best buy, no question. You can get another sensor standalone for better room VR.

>>61650646
You could join the VRChat discord there's a section for talking about games, invite is on their website

>>61650988
>Amazon says they can't cancel my unshipped order
That sounds like bullshit. I'd say keep the ones you have and tell Amazon to stop jewing you.

>>61651103
Thanks, I actually just found a good source:
http://www.ggfilter.com/f/Oich-dBy/games-on-sale-on-the-oculus-store-sorted-by-rating

>Found out the Soundstage guy flat out dropped the game/app for a job at Google.

>>61651121
Amazon can't cancel it, but he can still reject shipment and/or return the item.

>>61650988
It would be 3 sensors, since the touch controllers come with one to go alongside the one your Rift headset has.

Given how the cost of a 3rd sensor takes over half the cost of touch controllers, maybe you should keep it. The extra controllers may be handy for breakages or you could sell them off on their own.

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would a standard VR or mobile VR be a better entry point lads?

>>61651406
Well probably not mobile VR, it's not very good, even as an "entry point".

how long until bigscreen gets positional audio? for the environment's sound system i mean, not for avatars.

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>entire VR game library is a bunch of indie demos poorly hacked together in Unity that the "devs" want $40+ USD for

>>61652349
Except it isn't? Not that you did any actual research before coming into the thread to chime recycled nonsense.

>>61651406
I think Oculus is the more friendly VR kit and you'd get free access to some games and apps with the Touch controllers. Only real downside is the cable management for the sensors and headset.

So anyone here played Lone Echo? How is it? Does it have good story telling? I don't think it's a game I'd want to get for the gameplay, sort of like how I wouldn't want to get Uncharted for its gameplay.

>>61654052
It's very polished and thought out, though the second segment is very scripted and linear. The challenge is mainly flying through areas with obstacles you can't touch.

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>>61648466
Which of the (Rift, Vive, PSVR) would you guys consider a daily used device? Added bonus for an HMD that you can just throw on with no major hassle.

What I mean is I never used the entry level gearvr much after a month (apart from porn it's a surprisingly good way to use in secret away from my girlfriend) don't want to lose that novelty fast like the gearvr when I upgrade.
Any advice would actually be very appreciated.

Is the oculus rift/touch combo sold out in most places in Canada? Can't seem to find much.

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>Buying into the first generation

you cant be serious

>>61657223
A lot of bugs and issues were already ironed out at the devkit stages.

>>61648466
So do we have any likely estimation regarding when Gen 2 VR is going to be available?

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>>61648466
worth it for porn and 3D hentai games?

>>61657730
2019

>>61649029
Maybe, but the Best Buy demo was the only one available.

>>61657730
A year or two the guys at Oculus said, probably a little longer with delays and such.

We will see superior headsets from other companies before then but I doubt they will be considered gen 2.

>>61651011
A standalone sensor is 60 bucks. A touch package is 100, only 40 more.

>>61651011
I've got a third coming in the mail today, actually.

>>61651121
I bought the bundle back on prime day, so there's some weirdness going on.

>>61651377
That was my thinking. I've actually got a standalone sensor coming in, so I would have a four sensor setup. I've already banged my controllers a few times, and now Oculus is experimenting with mixed reality using a third controller for tracking an object...

>>61657730
2019 at the earliest for real "Gen 2"

Oculus outright stated they don't expect a successor for about two years, and Vive's folks have expressed similar sentiments

>>61651836
I was surprised by how much better desktop VR is, but Daydream is what convinced me VR was worth it. That said, the lack of positional tracking sucks.

>kinda want VR for a couple of games
>cant really justify to spend 549 cad + tax

>>61660583
You can save up abit on the side and work out what else you would spend that money on, if you would end up spending that dosh on shit then get a headset.
I only have a gf and no kids so no real obligations other than the occasional night out so it was an easy choice and no buyers remorse which was surprising.

>>61660699
My problem is that like after the initial WOW of the VR and the two games i'll put it on a shelf and not touch it again for years till a better headset at a cheaper price comes out, making this whole thing fruitless.

>>61657928
this is a great question.

>>61660718
It's hard to say because it differs from person to person but I bought the PSVR just for Resi 7 because I'm a RE nut, the fear of giving up on VR after a short while was there but the appeal of VR made me upgrade to a Rift. I even kept the PSVR for the occasional exclusives despite using the Rift alot more.

It just depends on how consistent that WOW factor is for you and you can always return the headset if you feel it's not for you.

>>61660965
>>61660718
Another anon chiming in here. There's more fun games out there than you'd realize too. I didn't expect to like Echo Arena but since it was free I tried it out and now I play it almost every day. There are certainly a few games I checked out through torrents that I ended up playing a lot too. And there's more and more stuff coming out. I owned Alien: Isolation and never got around to playing it, but now a VR mod came out so I'm planning on finally playing it. The reviews are pretty positive already. I think the only "gamer" who wouldn't be satisfied right now would be someone who's extremely focused on a single genre/type of game and doesn't like any others.

>>61661078
How well does the "3d" effect work, like vs a 3d imax movie with glasses?

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>>61648466
so oculus rift is a lot of fun but if your playing any game where you can dodge behind cover i recommend not faceplanting on your actual desk.

>>61661293
and yeah i know i look like a hobo, just got back from 3 days camping.

>>61661097
I mean it's on par with the best 3D you could get from any other method, but the FOV and head tracking actually make it feel like they're just real rather than a 3D projection.

Guys, Gunheart is out. It looks really good.

Project Sansar by the Second Life developer is also released now in beta.

>>61661312
look like a socialist.
Noted and cited.

>>61661732
I look like a socialist because i havent had a shave for 3 days???

>>61650767
Don't they say that about all they're products?

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>>61661293
>ginger
No wonder you want to escape reality

>>61663449
I love my hair.

>>61660892
Seeing your custom waifu full sized standing before is something that must be experienced first hand.

what are these home cinema simulator programs like? the idea of playing on a 150 inch screen that is not bound to any aspect ratio seems really appealing. I suppose this would still be hampered by the low res of the current crop of VR, but at least the requirements shouldnt be higher than when playing normally, right?

>>61661979
You're ginger and have a t-shirt on. You know t-shirt posting is worse than mobile posting, right?

So Linden Labs has put their VR Second Life successor, Sansar on open beta. Looking into joining it but what do others think?

>>61664783

The Waifu Sex Simulator VR seems promising

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>>61668008
My Rift isn't working with it but it has a desktop mode. Avatars are pretty locked for now but there's some rooms to wander in. Sadly wandering is all you can really do, so far as I can tell. I'm sure that's going to change.

Is there anything out there other than VRcovers that replace the part of the rift that goes up against your face? The hard angles on the default face mask thing are the only thing making the rift uncomfortable, but this VRcover seller is the only thing I can find that offers an alternative and there are a lot of bad reviews for it, some saying it actually makes it more uncomfortable because the cloth bunches up since it doesn't fit perfectly, and if you don't use the cloth then the faux-leather makes your face more sweaty.

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>>61668807
They're the only ones I've seen. I have the same issue as well.

I assume you got the old bundle. The new bundle ships with a new facial interface that they'll add on the site to order separately soon. I haven't seen anyone compare them yet but just judging by the photos it looks better than the old one.

>>61650649
I'm having the same problem. I opened up MSI Afterburner, launched SteamVR, and watched as the GPU and Memory clocks maxed out.

Honey Select also does this, VR or not. I have to underclock/undervolt just to get it to quiet down so I can have a peaceful fap, and make sure I turn them back up for other VR games.

>>61668807
Bought their covers for my Vive. Not the full replacement ones.

The leather I found to be comfortable and I use it by default now since it's so easy to clean compared to the default foam. The Rift doesn't have the same issue with the foam soaking up sweat like the Vive does though since it's far denser and has some sweat blocking layer on it. It does make you sweat more but it's better than dealing with wet foam. I'd say it's about on the same level as the default Rift foam in terms of breathing which is to say it neither really breathe well at all.

The cloth cover I felt was a little coarse and didn't really solve the sweat issue so I don't use it. Not as comfortable as the default foam. Of course you can talk to someone else and they'll have a different opinion.

>>61668994
>>61668807
There's WidmoVR. They have better covers than VRcover.

Where the fuck is my rift. I place my order more than 2 weeks ago. REEEE!

>>61657928
I'd say no. First few times was amazing, but if you do it every day it starts to become routine just like regular fapping. To really appreciate it longer term you'd have to space out the fapping, but then you're paying $400 for something you only use 1-3 times a week for an hour tops.

>>61648582
How was the visual quality on playback? I'm specifically asking if I should just pick up a psvr for porn instead of rift. Thanks

>>61670414
>more than 2 weeks ago
You should have gone to a retail place. Amazon and Oculus were the first to run out of stock and get backordered.

I ordered from Oculus at first, but after going a week without hearing any updates I cancelled the order and went with Best Buy. They had the bundle that included an xbone controller and a copy of EVE Valkyrie, and had free 2 day shipping. Newegg took a while to run out of stock too.

I'm learning my lesson from this one, and avoiding Amazon and first party sellers whenever I can.

>finally get my Rift
>dropped frames every 30 seconds or so no matter how much performance headroom I have in every single program, including low requirement games like Thumper

What in the hell, man? It's so annoying to drop from 90 FPS to 87 for no reason. Just sitting there in Lucky's Tale I see the drops. It usually happens when something happens like the pig kicking the ball in the idle screen or breaking a box.

I'm guessing my processor/RAM just can't keep up with what's required even though usage is low... I've fuckin' tried everything.

>>61669132
How is Honey Select in VR?
I am legit debating getting a headset mostly for that

>>61671467
Have you tried DPC latency checker?

>>61668736
>>61668008
Just tried it. It seemed very limited and had a pretty bad VR implementation. They've got a long way to go.

>>61671497
pretty good but >>61670860

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What kind of virtual or augmented reality glasses is the man in the background adjusting in this picture? If he is security, what data would be displayed in the glasses?

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>>61668060
The amount of clipping is absurd.
It's still fun, though.

What I really enjoy more is the dressup stuff in CM3D2; I don't even play that game for the sex.

>>61666963
I was waiting on my nephew getting out the shower so i could get in...other than that wtf is wrong with Tshirts when all im doing is slobbing around the house, its warm here atm and i just wanna be comfy.

Any decent fantasy walking simulators out there? My mum wants to go wandering through a 'fairy forest' as she puts it but she dosnt want to play a game, she just wants to wander around....I got her walking about in skyrim but she got upset when a bear attacked her.

>>61672588
i just pose my maid nude in the editor and creepily whack over her

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>>61671326
Any idea how accurate best buys finder is? I checked online and it seems to be all out of stock in stores.

So I ordered from Oculus on thursday and they haven't sent it yet. Are they out of stock?

>>61668060
Honey select is better

>>61668060
I love it. You have to have look at you turned on, and position yourself just right and it's bliss just watching her dance to apple pie, especially when she gets up close

>>61661293
I stuck my hand in the ceiling fan twice

>>61674692
Yup, they and Amazon are on backorder, but Best Buy has some stock I think.

Holy fuck why did HTC put such a shitty unfiltered mic on the Vive. Every god damn multiplayer game is filled with mouth breathers and it's just always constantly there because the mic is always default on and they don't think about turning it off. It's like a constant stream of shit going into your ears, fuck.

>>61670990
Didn't get a chance to view any video

>>61673748
They are allegedly getting more mid august.

>>61676411
At least you can be certain your not a manlet.

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Ordered one from oculus site as theres no tax or shipping costs to Canada for some reason (confirmed on redflag deals).

I have a question though. My pc set up is as folows in the image.

Would putting the two sensors to the left and right of my curtain bar work (faced downward)?

>>61678421
If you're going for a frontward facing setup only then yeah it should be fine. It's actually better mounted high up pointing downward since it gives it more view of your play area than just sitting on your desk.

>>61678612
Yea that's what i'm gonna try first. Not sure how long the cables for the sensors are or if if second will reach (or if i'll need usb3 extender cables).

>>61678779
Sensor cables are 6ft iirc. If you need to extend longer than another 6ft then you should probably get an active extension to save yourself from any possible headaches.

>>61678421
Hot diggity, thats pretty smart.

>>61671326
Thanks anon! I didn't know Best Buy was including Eve. I just bought that bundle myself.

Tell me, does it still include the Xbone controller?

>>61672588
I don't think the clipping is that bad anymore. I just tried in non-VR mode.

does the steam vr theater for non-vr games play whenever it feels like it?
the thing never stops loading in the headset, but when i check the game, it is running.

>>61680162
Yeah I was kind of annoyed with it so I just disabled it completely through the Steam settings.

>>61648466
What I need

>better res
>better FOV
>eye tracking
>wireless
>inside out roomscale

When?

>>61682311
>better res
some guys are making that "17k effective resolution" that projects a google-glass sized 1k image wherever you're looking so that should be fun
also samsung's gonna be providing 4k panels next time around
>better FOV
who knows
>eye tracking
already available if you're a developer, we should expect it in the next couple years
>wireless
see above
>inside out roomscale
see above

i don't super expect all of these things to show up on one headset and still be relatively lightweight before 2020, but there's options soon

>>61682311
I consider FOV more important than resolution at the moment. I can already read text and see most detail but the goggle vision really hurts immersion.

>>61682375
>not before 2020
I'll be dead by then

>>61682505
You can't increase FoV without increasing the resolution if you want to maintain the same level of clarity though.

>>61683522
True but I'd rather they did that than make the same FOV more dense.

>>61677346
Where'd they say that?

Rift vs Vive

Which do I buy?

I've been out of the VR loop for a while.

Is there any porn for these things yet?

>>61686294
No porn. Zuckerburg banned it all.

>>61686273
cheapest one at this point
one isn't worth over $xxx.00 than the other

>>61686273

If you just want to fucking play video games, Oculus because its cheaper.

If money is no obstacle and you want the better one, Vive.

Vive allows for full room motion and can play both Vive and Oculus games though the former requires some sort of mod or patch I believe.

>>61686273
If you have the money then get the Vive. If you don't then get the Oculus.

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Thinking of buying a rift and putting it in a safe somewhere for 30 years. Just seems like one of those things. Taken bigger long term risks.

>>61670990
PSVR is pretty decent at video, the screendoor effect isn't really noticable unless you're trying to see it. Darker videos look better though, I will admit that.

>>61686273
I think the Vive is very slightly better, for example it has a camera, but it also costs $799, compared to $399 for the Rift.

So this >>61686664

>>61687323
Rift can do whole room, you just need another tracker

>>61687835
No one would care. The only ones that might matter are the Kickstarter ones that were signed.

>>61688191
>>61687753
>>61687323
>>61686664
>>61686273
As I own both, the comparison isn't even fair at this point. No one should waste their money on a Vive unless they're a developer or engineer or something. The Vive is not entirely better than the Rift and there are better things about the Rift that the Vive doesn't have unless you buy the accessories that will make it even more expensive, like the deluxe audio strap and the knuckles controllers. Also LG will probably come out in a few months time and it'll be better than the Vive so if you're going to spend that much you might as well go with LG. HTC is a shit company.

>>61688309
If you have a big room I'd still say it's worth the extra for the Vive. Own both too. But as you say, new hardware just seems so close at this point. Even if it ends up being early 2018 I'd say wait if you want to go the Lighthouse based tracking route.

Any idea for the rift+touch package whether doing one sensor in front of you and one behind too inaccurate vs just two front upper sensors?

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>>61688369
Depends how big your placespace is. Turning around might have short drop outs so depends on how much that bothers you.

Also found this which was pretty interesting.

Question about the ports for sensors and hub.

If I have two front facing usb 3.0, would it be more advisable to plug one in the back of mobo and one in front?

>>61688841
Not an issue unless you plug in 3 sensors

https://www.oculus.com/blog/oculus-roomscale-balancing-bandwidth-on-usb/

>Own vive for a year now
>Spend two days fucking around on steam trying everything
>It's all fucking shit
>VR porn is so low res that I might as well just watch it on my phone
>Just as many VR porn games for mobile as desktop, that is 0
>Spare some mods of illusion games
Months later
>VR Kanojo demo out
>Try it
>Actually a decent VR game
>Hype
>Game actually released months later
>Set up vive at new house
>Setup is fucked and I hardly even play it
>Give up after two hours
>Never touch it again
>Get new job
>Get GF
>Literally couldn't give a fuck about VR anymore
>See VR threads on /g/
>Wonder what's new
>Read thread
>Absolutely fucking nothing is new
I have too much other shit to do but eventually I'll make some decent VR porn games. Till then fuck this shit.

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A CHALLENGER APPEARS

Quick question, would you pickup a PSVR or get the rift + an extra $200? (extra parts for my rig to run it)
Doesn't help that my gf is a greedy fuck with my money.

>>61691218
Depends on what you want to play. The PSVR does have lower res per eye than rift/oculus and lower fps ingame so keep that in mind.

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I just bought a Sony XE900 49" 4K TV. I want to play playerunknown's battlegrounds. Will I be able to see enemies in the distance better with a VR headset or my TV?

pic unrelated, £200,000 for a parking space in london

>>61691257
>lower GPS ingame
Shit I didn't know this and I'm pretty OCD with graphics settings, probably spent 2 hours messing about Witcher 3 settings alone on PC.

As far as I can tell PSVR seems like a short term try if you're heavily into VR and have the option upgrade to the rift later on, I was quite content on getting the PSVR until the rift prices became comparable.
I suppose selling the PSVR later would work.

>>61688309
>LG
>a few months time
They refuse to comment on even an estimate for their release date

>>61689265
Try waifu sex simulator, It's surprisingly good

>>61689265
When you've been with a girl for over 3 years porn is important, not an every day thing but it makes you appreciate sex more because of actual sugar walls when you recently fapped to fake sex.

>>61685073
Local best buy Oculus rep told me - also, I tried ordering from Oculus website, it mentioned restocking mid august. I ordered online form Best Buy and they confirmed a aug 9th delivery.

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My biggest problem with the rift is all the facebook shit integrated into it, the rift is the only VR headset that constantly sends data back to facebook about your playing habits.

>>61691218
Depends. Some people hate PC gaming, so they take the PSVR route. Right now the only game worth having on PSVR is farpoint, but shooting bugs got repetitive just in the demo alone.

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Can HTC vive be installed completely offline? I want it to use it with gaming pc which I keep disconnected from internet. Is there some kind of registering needed? Or I can jus download installer, copy it to external drive and move to my pc?

>>61693659
bump

>>61693659
I think you can install it with first downloading SteamVR from steam (all VR games need this) then swith over to steam offline mode, connect your headset and open the steamVR setup.

>>61693659
Why do you need to keep it offonline? Really strange question.

>>61695254
You asked if you could install it offline.

>>61695361
No i'm asking him why he has a gaming pc thats no connected to the net.

>>61695378
Ah, gotcha.

>>61695254
>>61695361
>>61695378
I keep my pc offline because I no longer buy original games. I started pirating everything after all the problems I had with my original games. It took ages for GTA V to start because it needed updates, blizzard helpdesk wanted photo of my id after I got problem with password (long story) etc. To summarize - you can no longer own games, you just pay money to corporations so they kindly allow you to use their software when they feel like it.

And because pirated software can contain trojans or other malware I run them on disconencted machine. Also I don't have to worry about telemetry and other stuff.

>>61695987
>To summarize - you can no longer own games, you just pay money to corporations so they kindly allow you to use their software when they feel like it.
This has been the case with video games for ages, you own the storage device containing the 1s and 0s and are granted a license which legally allows you to access them. You don't own the 1s and 0s themselves, you only own the storage medium.

The only difference these days is now they have the mean to enforce it.

I don't think VR is gonna take off like originally thought.
Rift and Vive has been out for how long and still only has tech demos for it

>>61696223
>the ol' "tech demos" meme
Nice.

>>61696223
Nope, you would very likely not say that if you actually owned one right now. With that said, views like these are understandable, as the marketing, videos, and everything for VR right now is terrible and doesn't show how good it actually is.

>>61693659
>>61695205
Ok, I just checked myself. I downloaded vive installer. First it asked for .net framework. After installing it and rebooting I proceeded further. After reaching the step of vive software installation I got 'error connecting to vive server'. Guess I won't be buying that.

>>61696448
If it's to any use, the pimax software can be installed without internet.

why are there no groups releasing vr games? specifically, oculus funded ones.

>>61696466
Good to know. However I dislike buying strictly Chinese products as the quality is always terrible. Even their website does not work properly (I just checked to do some research) Do you own one of those yourself?

>>61696448
Vive installer is something completely separate and shouldn't be installed even if you're online.

As far as I know you need to be online once to set up SteamVR if you want boundaries and some of the config but after than you can play completely offline. I actually play offline most of the time since I haven't wired ethernet to my larger playspace and pirate almost everything.

Anyone try the alien VR mod? It's fucking unreal how good it is when the vive is used in a full game. If the modder can get weapon/items to work with touch it would be a prime example of a game to play.

>>61696776
I remember it working amazingly well back when I had a DK2. Glad someone finally making it work. I doubt it'll ever get motion control support though.

>>61696616
Don't bother. It basically has mobile tier tracking and the displays have poor motion/ghosting since they're using LCD instead of OLED.

>>61696616
It's on it's way.

What can the Vive do that the Oculus can't?

I'm considering buying one, but the Vive doesn't seem very economical.

>>61697006
read the thread kiddo, plenty of posts talking about whether it is worth the premium or not.

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>>61697006
Summarizing from what I've heard about the vive and experienced with my rift:

>Vive's got a front facing camera so you can see your room around you if you need to without taking the headset off
>you don't need to buy another sensor to get reliable 360° tracking (which isn't much of a positive because rift + 3rd sensor is still cheaper)
>Rift's rigid headstrap gives it a more comfortable weight distribution (Vive is getting a similar strap as a seperate addon)
>Rift's motion controllers feel more natural to hold (Vive is getting similar controller as an addon)
>Vive's face foam absorbs sweat while Rift's doesn't
>Rift's face foam has hard edges, which can leave marks or irritate your face after a while
>Rift's max roomscale area is like half the size of the Vive's, and you need active USB3.0 extension cables because the sensor cables are only 6ft
>their lenses each add their own unique artefacting, pic related, which are only really visible in high contrast situations
>Vive has somewhat higher FOV, but more screendoor effect
>Vive is adjustable so it's glasses-friendly, with the Rift you might end up scratching your lenses (both your glasses' and your rift's) unless you buy a $30 third party addon for it and reducing the FOV by moving the screen further away (vive adjustment does the same thing)
>Rift might not be compatible with your motherboard's USB slots, even if they're 3.0, and requires a third party PCI USB extension bay that people have reported issues with (no idea about the vive)

>>61697006
There are pros and cons to each, but the price basically nullifies any of those as they're small enough differences that don't have nearly that much of an impact on the experience. The two headsets are more similar than they are different.

>>61697268
I can tell you're trying to be fair here, but the reality is a bit better in terms of how good the Rift is for the average person. For example most people don't have rooms larger than the max size the Rift with 2 or 3 sensors allows. Most people will not have those USB problems. Being more glasses friendly is only good for letting other people try your headset, otherwise it's uncomfy and fiddly as fuck no matter which headset you're using. The real solution is to buy a lens adapter or 3D print one to give you the big natural FOV and good comfort and no need to fiddle around having the headset on top of your glasses frames. The Rift package is getting new foam which will probably be more comfortable.

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>>61697268
Something else I don't see mentioned often at all regarding the Rift's FoV is that not only is it smaller than Vive's, they reduced the stereo overlap. This can cause eye fatigue. If you ever feel like you're a little crosseye'd when using the Rift then this is most likely the issue. It differs depending on IPD and other factors though so some people don't even notice it.

I'm almost thinking of returning my Rift since I think I'm just so acclimated to how the Vive is that it's hard for me to get used to. Pic is a decent example of what it looks like that someone made. It's definitely not an uncommon issue people have. I think most just don't realize that it doesn't need to be an issue.

>>61697738
>Most people will not have those USB problems
You might be right. Go searching for issues and obviously you'll find a bunch of people who have had them.

I'm just speaking from personal experience. I bought the USB PCI-e expansion that Oculus themselves recommend, and I've had to swap USB ports around mid-game because one of my sensors stopped functioning. It happened a couple more times until I finally plugged one of the sensors into a 2.0 slot. It works with the 2.0 but not the mobo's 3.0, but my mobo's getting on in years (Z68)

i wear glasses, im guessing my glasses wont fit a VR headset or will be very uncomfy squished up against my face

do i bother with VR at all?

>>61697934
Maybe, it depends on your head shape, the glasses frames, and the headset in question. You can fix all of these potential problems by buying an add-in lens accessory.

>>61697868
I don't think it's as bad as that image and you make out to be. I went from Vive to Rift and while I did notice there was a bit less overlap in the FOV, it wasn't that much. Most people don't care for this and it's probably even more true for glasses wearers who are used to some visual differences between their eyes.

>It's definitely not an uncommon issue people have.

It's not an issue at all for the vast majority of people. I mean I owned both and pretty much no one I've shown them to point out such an issue.

Plus the overlap means you can get a decent FOV while optimizing for pixel density so the resolution is even sharper looking on the Rift.

Should I just wait for that mixed reality shit MS is coming out with?
I could probably preorder that acer one.

>>61698124
Actually the Acer one is released already, but it's a dev kit. Also impressions have come in and they're not the best, to the point that a Rift is probably still the better deal.

>>61698035
>It's not an issue at all for the vast majority of people.

I don't think that's true. It's just that it's something harder to point out or notice but it still causes eye fatigue. Just like people might not notice what's actually making them feel nauseous with VR sickness.

>>61698252
>It's just that it's something harder to point out or notice but it still causes eye fatigue.

And most people don't get eye fatigue with the Rift or the Vive unless you're reading small text, because the resolution is still too low. If you can't point out any of those problems in the experience then by definition it's not an issue. If you have issues these specific issues with the FOV or eye fatigue, then you are in the minority.

>>61698325
>And most people don't get eye fatigue

I think that's more attributed that most people keep VR sessions short.

> If you can't point out any of those problems in the experience then by definition it's not an issue.

That's a ridiculous statement. You can sense that something is wrong without knowing what it is exactly. I actually had no idea what was bothering me using the Rift until I looked more into it.

>>61698369
>You can sense that something is wrong without knowing what it is exactly.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Most people don't sense anything wrong with the visuals other than the resolution being low.

>I think that's more attributed that most people keep VR sessions short.

I don't know man, I've let people try my stuff for 30 minutes to hours at a time. I have family members and friends who play on my gear all the time.

>>61698414
Also just saying, but if it were such a common problem, then reviewers and other owners of both headsets out there would point this out on a larger scale, but they don't, as far as I've seen. Surely, they're not people who play for very short sessions if they're such enthusiast users.

>>61698414
>>61698462
I mean I've already kinda mentioned why people might not mention it, they just attribute it to being a part of VR. Hell I don't even see reviewers mention the lens flares.

I've found relatives to be the least discerning when it comes to these things. They'll wear it completely wrong and not tell me that the image is completely blurred but still trough though it, later coming to me in a sweat saying that they feel like they need to take a break because they're so light headed. All anecdotal of course.

>>61696307
>>61696313
Thanks for that awesome list of games guys

>>61696223
Not exactly, the tech is pretty neat and some games are absolutely badass. Even modern games were converted to work with both VR and motion control - Doom 3 works with both.

On the flip side, price drop to 399 is garnering interest (and the cheaper it gets the more interest will come). All the best buys and amazon here are sold out.

>>61698508
No, I understand you completely. I am saying that even then are not bothered by the experience in any weird way that they can't describe and I have talked to them extensively about their experience because I care about it. Most people I demo to do not walk away with a feeling of being lightheaded or something like that. I think there's also a good reason most reviewers don't point out the lens flares either, because in most games and software they don't really stand out that much. And it's also not like this overlap problem you're describing, because some reviews actually do point out the lens flares.

>>61698575
There's a pastebin in the OP, it shouldn't need to have its contents copy pasted into every thread because people like you are too lazy to click a link.

>>61698630
It got my interest for sure. Including 2 sensors and the touch, and 6? 7? games made me buy it. Best Buy tossed in Valkyrie for free too.

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Anyone else having problems with SteamVR? It's the worst part of my VR experience so far.

It makes my PSU coil whine when I start it up, it randomly moves the room center outside the play area making me go through the set up process all over again, it doesn't send audio to the Rift's headphones unless you set the Rift as the default playback device, and recently it stopped recognizing that I have a Rift. It keeps showing me this screen saying my Vive is disconnected when I don't have a Vive. In order to fix it, I have to go into the OpenVR folder and manually launch vrserver.exe as admin, THEN launch steamvr.

>>61701028
werks on my machine

>tfw I ordered my rift three weeks ago and I still haven't received it
I feel scammed

vr is cool at first, for about a month or two its real neat. However, you get used to it, it completely loses its magic and you realize you are just looking at a screen up close. Hard to explain but the first few times you try vr is going to be the best experience, then it slowly goes down to derp levels where you would actually prefer just using your computer monitor, I guess unless you are retarded or something.

>>61701472
>everyone ends up like a jaded faggot like me

>>61702088
>everyone stays delusional and whimsical like a fairy tale faggot.

>>61702117
>who likes movies or video games? all that shit is fake i only kill real niggas i aint no bitch

>>61701472
I've taken breaks from it before but then a new game comes out and I'm back into it.

Honestly the only real thing pulling me back to monitor is wanting to check on my feeds whilst gaming. If Oculus added a desktop feature to their menu like SteamVR does, it would be great.

VR is shit

AR is the future

Screencap this

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>>61648466
I just want to watch porn, I don't care about playing videogames; what do you guys recommend? I want to plug something up to my computer so I can view VR porn.

>>61702174
Movies and videogames are Marxist propaganda used for subversion.

>>61702415
A fucking Google cardboard, or any headset for a phone, will fit your need for 3d tiddies.

>>61702459
Yeah, but I don't want to use my phone.
Can I hook those things up to my pc?

The mobile VR seems kind of gimmicky to me.

So Oculus Quill got a new update. It's pretty gud. The new scene(s) are nice to explore, it's actually pretty amazing IMO with how you can create such big worlds.

>>61698658
great response, well memed.
You angry, defensive nerds are the worst. Get a clue, loser.

>>61695987
I didn't think someone could such an entitled little brat.
Build the wall.

>>61702801
Click the link.

>>61702725
They added the animation stuff?

>>61702415
Just get a vr video player. It fixes the distortion. You cant actually move in those vr movies

>>61704469
So, I need to get an Oculus or a Vive, then convert videos to VR format? Or does the application do it, and I just sit back and fap?

>>61702415
if you have the spare four hundo go for it. might regret it otherwise.
>>61704498
have dl'ed some 360 vids, and just played them with whirlgig. gotta chose the right projection type or else you get a kaleidoscope of bouncing tits and ass. which is funny for a bit, then disorienting.

>>61704813
Thanks for the advice. I didn't know if there was a headset sold by itself that I could use for watching movies, but apparently that ain't the case.

>>61704875
nah, think most of the options are either phone shit, or headsets like vive, rift, osvr, etc.
few years a way from more of a middling choice. right now, we are doing beta testing for the future, if it doesn't crash and burn before release.

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>>61704913
Thanks a lot my man, very informative.

>>61704875
A "standalone" headset is rift's next project, meaning no computer or phone needed, but they haven't dropped any hints when that might come along.

>>61704979
Facebook is expected to debut a $200 wireless Oculus VR headset in 2018, according to a report based on unnamed sources by Bloomberg writer Mark Gurman. We’ve confirmed some details related to the story.

The new headset will work without being tethered to a smartphone or PC, the report said. If that’s true, it could make VR more accessible to the masses. VR has had a slow start in the past year, but it is expected to be a $75 billion market by 2021, according to market researcher Greenlight Insights.

“We don’t have a product to unveil at this time; however, we can confirm that we’re making several significant technology investments in the standalone VR category,” said a spokesperson for Oculus, regarding the Bloomberg report. “This is in addition to our commitment to high-end VR products like Oculus Rift and mobile phone products like Gear VR.”

>>61697873
If you bought the Inateck card you're doing it wrong. That card has only one USB controller servicing all the ports. The Startech card has four controllers, one for each port. You won't experience problems with it, just don't install the manufacturer drivers. Let Windows use generic ones.

>>61704913
You say beta but that's not to say it isn't fun or cool already. I'm already playing VR games everyday and going back to them, while my flat games are touched rarely. True though, it's mostly only good for gaming and experiencing stories right now, and maybe porn. The hardware needs to get better for other use cases to be worthwhile. Improved resolution, comfort, and form factor are the main things that will enable the other use cases and push VR into a larger market.

>>61704381
Nah not yet but some good changes and additions, with more updates coming "soon" apparently.

is there any cheap vr head sets just for videos and stuff on pc or are they all mobile

>>61706006
>if you buy the card oculus literally tells you to buy you're doing it wrong
I wish I knew that a week ago.

>>61707224
Google Daydream headsets are supposed to be coming out later this year. Right now, all that's commercially available are vive/rift, PSVR, and a bunch of shit that requires a decent smartphone.
If you're lucky you can find a used rift DK2 for under a hundred bucks, but most of them are $150-200.

>>61648466
There is a virtual reality arcade near me where I tried the Vive with basically an ideal set-up. I enjoyed it, but the screendoor and limited FOV was worse than expected desu. I fully expected it too be present but it kinda ruined the experience.

I will only adopt when those things are fixed.

>>61708115
>>61708115
>Rift
Oh shit nevermind

>>61651406
Gear VR is the best way to introduce it to other people and to 'test drive' VR without a massive outlay, providing you have a samsung phone of course. Full on mega rig is the best thing to actually own though and unless you have that you'll be missing out on a 'true' vr experience.

>>61691899
I've used it since it was a wee little beta, unless it's gotten way fucking better in the last six months bugger that. Fapping over a model like that just feels weird.
I think there were maybe two scenes I liked, and that was about the time they started adding love live/overwatch models.
>>61692494
This 100%

My Rift is shipping from Best Buy, should be here within the week. Honestly excited as fuck to try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdedfzJAUl4

Doom 3 in full VR including motion controls.

>https://www.oculus.com/blog/killing-floor-incursion-pre-orders-now-live/

Shit, Killing Floor: Incursion is looking better than I thought it'd be. I'm cautiously optimistic for it now especially since apparently they will have smooth locomotion and a full story campaign like Arizona Sunshine, but the production values look a lot better and more attuned towards horror.

>>61712464
If only more games made their source code available so we could mod in support ourselves like that guy did with Doom 3.

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>>61652349
>entire VR game library is a mix of multiplayer experiences and social games to play with my friends

You DO know that VR is best played with friends, right?

>>61713006
I was wondering what happened to that. Gameplay seemed a little slow but I know VR can feel faster when you're inside it.

>>61648466
I got a Gear VR headset which came for free with My S8, it seems like its basically just an oculus made by samsung

Im not really feeling immersed though, even though it does work very well

>>61713630
Because you're using the VR equivalent of the 3D glasses that would come in a comic book. Immersion only really comes if you're playing something like a racing game where you have the combined force feedback of the wheel and the visual feedback of the headset.

>>61713567
Well they haven't shown any gameplay footage featuring the free movement controls yet so it's hard to say I think. Again, cautiously optimistic. I wasn't excited for it in the past but it seems interesting now.

>>61713630
Phone VR isn't really the same kind of VR.

>>61660583
Wait a few years, VR games are getting better but the good ones are taking quite a while to make, despite the really good titles coming out in 2018. Id probably wait for gen 2 vr or just for better games to come out.

>>61686273
If you have a large room you can dedicate to VR games, Vive, otherwise, Rift is better because it's kind of meant for smaller areas. Rift has more exclusives but Vive has a mod to play rift games.

>>61716046
Are most rift games designed for sitting down and the two front sensor stuff?

Do you have to do 3 sensors to play roomscale games that are on vive?

>>61715908
Right now as a VR user I feel like it's just about good enough that VR games are keeping me busy and are also more fun than monitor games. I would recommend to wait for second gen for the more impressive stuff, but I'm overall quite satisfied personally already.

>>61716391
No.

No.

>>61696223
>5+ fully fleshed out AAA games coming out for VR by the end of next year
>3 full campaigns by indie developers coming around the same time
>only has tech demos

>>61716893
Don't forget support for the games that really benefit from VR instead of 3D WAGGLAN; simulators.

>>61697934
Vive is adustable and glasses friendly, but double the price of the Rift

>>61717487
Or if you wanted to adjust for glasses, you could buy a $30 accessory for the Rift, and it would still be cheaper than a Vive.

>>61702407
Why would I screencap a person beating a dead horse?

>>61713165
None who can afford to and are willing to spend $400 on a peripheral.