/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread

First for install Source Mage

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I made this.
:^)

>>61648376
what computer is that?

>>61648527
Very nice anon.

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>>61648633
Thanks. Hope it brightens you're day in some small way.

>>61648527
10/10

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It wants me to add swap, what do?
Im just trying to do an install with home on another drive.

After distro hopping for about 6 months I have concluded that Ubuntu is literally the best thing out there. It just works, is easily managed, community is large and troubleshooting is simple as fuck. Just don't use Unity.

One of the main reasons I haven't completely switched to linux (I run ubuntu on a w7 host machine) is that gaming on linux is still not great. Last time I looked, Wine wasn't that great. There were some wrapper programs specifically for gaming, but I didn't get much benefit out of those either. Someone in a different thread mentioned that I could just set up windows in a virtual machine and play on that, which sounds ridiculous, but I'm not really sure as I haven't been keeping up with technology in that area. Is gaming through a virtual machine really the solution here?

First for:
Busybox
llvm
musl c
clang

>>61648865
Choose the drive you want your swap on and make it half of your RAM, e.g. with 8GB RAM, make your swap 4GB. Swap will be listed in the types you can choose from.

>>61649017
Or just stop gaming, you'll get much more productive.

>>61648865
It is just giving you a heads up that you haven't assigned a swap partition. You should be able to proceed without one.

>>61648865
If you have more then 8GB of ram then you dont need swap

>>61649108
Not him, but I have 6GB of RAM and my swap is never used. Is this normal?

>>61649077
>just stop gaming

that's sort of linux solution mindset that has made the OS niche. I spend 60-80 hours a week coding, I'm not going to stop gaming in my freetime because my OS doesn't support it lol

>>61649159
Depends on your usage.
I can max out 16gb with 14gb of it being cached almost as soon as i startx.

>>61649167
>60-80
I meant to say 40-60. I have free time to actually spend

>>61649017
Use GPU passthrough

You need two gpus (the Intel one counts) and a compatible cpu

>>61648376
Nice troll thread.

>>61648865
You can proceed without a swap partition and create a swap file in an existing ext4 partition later if you will.

>>61649211
Thats really interesting, I wasn't aware that was a possibility. Maybe I'll try dualbooting and see if I can get it working correctly first

dual booting win7 with an ubuntu vm and ubuntu with a win7 vm. has science gone too far?

Fuck, I need help /flt/. Every search engine I use on Linux, the captchas, YouTube, etc.. Are all not accessible on my X200, when before they have worked. This is happening on ALL distros, I've tried Arch, Debian, Gentoo, but it only works on Ubuntu and windows. How am I supposed to use my laptop if I can't even search for a solution? Help please.

>>61648376
Any modern distro with SiS 771/671 support?

I've got an old as hell laptop with a pentium dual-core and that graphics chipset, I've tested some live isos but the only one that kind of worked was xubuntu 14.02, I've installed that one and upgraded to 16.04 but the laptop what it's pants whenever it played any video.
I'm testing devuan ceres with i3wm and it works better, but videos are still a little laggy. I'm okay with it since the idea was using it as an emergency laptop, but I was wondering if it could do a bit better, ar least to watch my animus without frameskipping.

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>>61648376
>>61649017
>>61649167
>>61649496
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61649548
thenks mr stelmen

does anyone here know what i'm supposed to do here? getting a bunch of these;

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

sys-libs/readline:0

  (sys-libs/readline-7.0_p3:0/7::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    sys-libs/readline (Argument)

  (sys-libs/readline-7.0_p3:0/7::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
    sys-libs/readline:0/7=[abi_x86_32(-),abi_x86_64(-)] required by (sys-libs/gdbm-1.13:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                                                                                                                                
    sys-libs/readline:0=[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?] required by (sys-libs/gdbm-1.13:0/0::gentoo, installed)

>>61649515
have you tried this?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS#SiS_671_card

>>61649798
hmm, just unmerging/emerging it worked, though i'd still like to know what the error actually is

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>>61632780
>>61632871

>>61649798
>have you tried this?
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SiS#SiS_671_card

Tweaking xorg.conf made it a bit better. I might try arch or that arch systemd-less spinoff to install the drivers from the aur.

Thanks.

>>61650822
there might be other non-driver-related things to get video running better
like for example using old "xv" output instead of opengl output in your video player

>>61650872
>>61650822
oh, also try without a compositor, if you are using one currently

brb pewdiepie i have to do my chores

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>>61648598
Sony VAIO PCG-C1VM

Learn how to do a fucking reverse image search you fucking moron.

I have three computers

>local computer (L1)
>remote computer 1 (R1)
>remote computer 2 (R2)

R1 and R2 are on the same network but L1 is on another network.

If I mount R1 and R2 on L1 using sshfs, will copying a file from one to the other happen across their local network or will the file be transfered via L1 (including all the latency of going through the internet)?

Should I just mount R2 on R1 and then mount R1 on L1?

>>61648454
i second this

>>61651376
>will the file be transfered via L1
Yup.

>>61651355
that's a similar model, but not the one linus is holding, read the whole sentence

>>61648376
>/flt/
Nice to see someone who remember the original denomination of these threads.

Do anyone knows how to use the Line instant messaging on a Linux machine? Wine can't run the .exe more than 20s without crashing.
Also it didn't support moonrunes and was displaying either squares or in a very shitty fallback font.

>>61651355
Well, that's hardly a friendly reply.

>>61651448
Close enough

>>61651455
>runs inside google chrome
yw

I was searching for the libsixel project and saw a couple of (new-ish) opengl backed terminal emulator projects that I wasn't aware of. One of them claims to be the fastest. I don't know what metrics they are using but I thought I would put some terminals to the test. By printing 1 gibabyte of text. Ran the test twice for each of them. All of them pegged a CPU core at 100% ... except terminator. Didn't test konsole because it wanted to install systemd and polkit.
Also got some other ones to try from https://www.ossblog.org/5-highly-promising-terminal-emulators/

$ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1024 count=$((1024*1024)) | base64 | pv > 1gb.txt
$ time cat 1gb.txt
alacritty (focuses on speed, rust, opengl) https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty
real 0m22.092s

urxvt
real 0m29.488s

terminology (f-fancy!)
real 0m36.813s

kitty (python, opengl) https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty
real 1m16.999s

xterm
real 2m13.234s

terminator (python)
real 4m37.903s

tilix
real 4m38.183s

gnome-terminal
real 4m40.348s

extraterm (electron, that shell integration and cursor mode looks useful, it has a fucking web inspector >.<)
real 13m15.734s (lol)

>>61651694
deepin-terminal please?

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I like the concept of linux and i want to install it but i have several concerns.
Can i
>Produce music
>Light 3d modeling
>Photo/video editing
>Play modern games and some old games
On linux?
If yes any good windows like distro suggestions?

>>61648376
I want to have a USB with persistent storage and I am planning to buy a Samsung USB with 32gb. I would like to install Ubuntu can anyone tell me if this will work or not and what program I will need to use.

>>61651962
you can install ubuntu normally onto it, as if it was an internal hdd/ssd, just pick the flash drive during installation

>>61651850
>Produce music
Yup, here are some DAWs https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/start
>Light 3d modeling
Um, I think blender can do that. IIRC solidworks has a release for linux too.
>Photo/video editing
Dunno about photos (probably) but shotcut is for video editing
>Play modern games
If they have a release for linux (most AAAs don't)
>and some old games
Most work in wine (check appdb for compatibility ratings and tips).
>If yes any good windows like distro suggestions?
Er, Ubuntu is generally the most newb friendly.

>>61651850
>Produce music
No, the only remotely working DAW is proprietary and paid, maybe you can pirate it tho. Forget about MIDI or VSTs otherwise

>>61651850
Also you can play most of the popular games on Linux (CSGO, hearthstone, rocket league, tf2, dota2, overwatch, diablo 3 are the ones I know run)

And just run Manjaro you have nothing to lose and get relatively new drivers which are important for the games.

I'm a complete novice when it comes to programming or any kind of computer science, even finding and installing drivers and putting video game cracks in the right place is quite the chore for me. However I am fully committing privacy when it comes to my digital life. Is there any way i can get linux to work for me with minimal effort and skill? I'm willing to put a small bit of time into making the OS work for me but i really just want it to werk.

How can i go about doing this? What distro?

(pls no bully, just a community college brainlet who wants out of the bot net )

>>61652715
>privacy
Get heads...
https://heads.dyne.org/

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I thinking about installing linux for the first time and on this pc
I am leaning toward ubuntu, but what do you guy recommend between that and mint?

>>61652715
>privacy
Get tails...
https://tails.boum.org/

>>61648376
is that sam hyde?

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>>61653064
fedora

>>61651850
You want Arch Linux.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5beLc2yFwRc

>>61653110
I looked up and there's blender for fedora, neat.
Guess I am gonna try this. I dont know much about linux to be picky anway

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>>61626540
VIA chipset anon here, finally was able to test it, it's in a horrible state.

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Does using gnu/Linux improves the lifespan of hardware like CPU or HDD?

>>61653504
How did you test it? I have a VIA chipset too and I'm curious. To put in perspective how bad it is:
>youtube is super slow
>tinker with chrome://flags options
>see minor improvements
>disable hardware acceleration
>gets blazing fast

i want to encrypt /home , do i need to reinstall the whole system enabling encryption, and then put my shit again on it ?

>>61653601
also will encryption decrease the hdd lifespan or affect performance on normal operation ?
>>61653543
most probably since it will make less use of those because you are not running oem shitty programs or telememetry.

>>61653543
I dunno why but linux is much quiter when it comes to HDD's that's what sells it to me.
>be on windows
>HDD: *skrrrrt skrrrt click click click skrrrkrkrrrrrkrt skrrrrt*
>be on linux
>*silence* (or as much as single click when opening a large file)

>>61653543
Your hardware doesn't give a fuck about what software runs on it.
Wear-down depends mostly on how you use your system.

>>61653601
That depends. Are your / and /home on different partitions?
If yes then the procedure goes something like this
># dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<device-of-home> bs=512K (WARNING: will erase all data on that partition and take a long time)
># cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/<device-of-home>
># cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/<device-of-home> crypto_home
># mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/crypto_home
>Add this line to /etc/crypttab:
>crypto_home /dev/<device-of-home> none default
>Add this line to /etc/fstab:
>/dev/mapper/crypto_home /home ext4 defaults 0 1

If not then you are better off reinstalling it all over again.

Also you might just want to encrypt your user directory. That's what ecryptfs is for and you'd do something like
># ecryptfs-migrate-home -u <your-username>
Which will encrypt your entire home folder and also move your files inside the encrypted space.
But the problem is that your files would still be visible in unallocated space (recoverable by photorec) and they'll also be in the file system cache which is why you should start over anyway.

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>>61653557
VN896 with OpenChrome driver on Debian.
To put in perspective:
>using vesa driver
>framebuffer/tty and shutting down is broken
>install latest driver from stretch repos
>blackscreen on boot
>install latest driver from experimental repos
>framebuffer/tty and shut down still is broken (pic related)
>CPU usage spikes randomly
>edits xorg.conf following Arch Wiki
>works better, framebuffer/tty is broken, still can't shutdown.
>edits grub to stop using graphical terminal
>still breaks tty/framebuffer and shut down

I just gave up and I'm going to throw Windows 7 on it again, it's a shame since it's a comfy laptop which would benefit from running Linux, but nobody gives a shit about VIA and OpenChrome, it can't even do 3D acceleration properly with Mesa. If this thing had a GMA945 or whatever, it would have better a lot better.

Just dualbooted Debian 9 & Windows 10 LTSB, not getting a bootloader on startup. (It autos to Windows) All the Linux stuff is on the same partition, and I know I installed GRUB. How do I manually go to GRUB? I've tried C, Shift, Space, Esc, but none of them worked. Thanks!

I couldn't unplug my PC during a hail and thunder "killed" my ethernet port (everything else works surprisingly). Now arch does this for every startup:

A start job is running for sys-subsystem-net-devices-enp0s10.device (xxs / 1min30s)

The port lights up in orange sometimes tho. Still I'd like to somehow disable it, I have a pci nic as replacement. Is this possible?

>>61654150
remove systemd

>>61654209
If only systemd was an mere option.

>>61648527
i love you.

>>61653952
>I've tried C, Shift, Space, Esc, but none of them worked
What, you mean holding them while booting or something? No, that isn't a thing.
> All the Linux stuff is on the same partition
The same partition as what?

If windows and debian are on different HDDs you need to tell your bios to boot from the one with grub on (or install grub on both). If they are on the same drive then you haven't installed grub or grub was overwriten by the windows bootloader. Either edit the windows bootloader to add the debian install as an option or boot to a linux live disk to install grub on the HDD.

>>61654150
I think your options are:
* mask that sysd job with one that does nothing
* blacklist whatever module works with that hardware (if it is a different one than you working nic)
* make a udev rule to stop the nic from getting enumerated in userspace (?)

>>61648527
Thats nice mate

>>61654307
>What, you mean holding them while booting or something? No, that isn't a thing.
That's what was suggested when I googled.
>The same partition as what?
the home, tmp, and the other one that I cannot remember the name of all are on the same partition.

Windows and Debian are on the same HDD, and I know I installed GRUB. Can you tell me how to add the Debian Install to the Windows Bootloader? Thank you.

>>61653176
What a faggot :D

I am using the tiling features in floating window managers extensively (the grid plugin in compiz, the tiling features in Xfce or the quicktile script). I do not want to swap to a tiling window manager as it is impractical for some of the work I do.

Is there a way to get grid/tile like arrangements automatically when opening windows within a floating window manager (plus maybe a few key mappings) to shuffle the layout?

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https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-RX-Vega-Linux-Driver

>>61654444
Use EasyBCD https://askubuntu.com/questions/139966/how-can-i-add-an-entry-for-ubuntu-to-the-windows-7-boot-menu

> That's what was suggested when I googled
I think that is for bringing the grub menu up when the menu timeout is set to 0 seconds, which isn't the default.

>>61654533
Thank you!

What's the name of that program on Ubuntu where you can change update settings, which repositories to use, etc?

Can someone on Ubuntu run it and tell me its name from the "ps" output?

>>61648869
Manjaro > Jewbuntu

>>61654923
Fedora > Mangina

>>61648869
try uninstalling any software it comes with and reboot

send my regards from the terminal

>>61655064
Gentoo > memehat

>>61655064
I've never tried fedora before.
My background in chronological order: Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Arch ( I've fallen in love but as a student I cannot be bothered to deal with it), Manjaro (because I want to use the AUR, and I've never had problems with it)

I want to dual boot manjaro with a security oriented distro like subgraph or qubes any advice which one should I go for?

>>61655126
hardened gentoo

>>61655159
:V

>>61648454
Will Source Mage be the new Gentoo on /g/?

>>61655159
Dose it do sandboxing out of the box?

>>61648454
>>61655260
it should.

do I need lightdm to boot into a desktop environment?

>>61655802
No. You can use startx.

>>61653640
>make less use of those
because of the whole OS or you need something else?
>>61653643
That's why I mostly asked, I was suspecting it could be because of the file system.
>>61653693
>Your hardware doesn't give a fuck about what software runs on it
You sure?

Summary of my openSUSE Tumbleweed KDE installation:

-Composition be slow, so I need to do:

export KWIN_TRIPLE_BUFFER=0

-I have to make sure that I don't somehow reinstall firefox -after- installing chromium, otherwise chromium asks if you want to set it as default every single time you open it

-Font rendering is terrible, so you have to use the gldickens3 repository

-Mouse acceleration is enabled by default, so you have to create a config file with a flat acceleration profile

-My keyboard layout resets after installation and defaults to US English, I have to switch it back again

And now I can't make chromium open magnet links with transmission-qt.

Ah, so many fucking hurdles.

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>>61648376
>yesterday: friendly gnu/linux thread
>today: friendly linux thread
i'm confused, what even is the difference between linux and gnu/linux? someone enlighten me

>>61655865
>>61649548
Honestly it's kinda like the "Chinese Shit General" and "Chink Shit General", you know, turbo offendered subhumans

>>61655865
Nothing technical.

One is just somewhat forcibly crediting the GNU project.

>>61655864
>using meme shit distros
>surprised they are shit

>>61655865
"GNU/Linux" is the combination of the GNU system and the Linux kernel. "Linux" is a system kernel; a core progam you maybe already run on your Android phone.
Most people mistakenly refer to the GNU system as "Linux", which leads to controversy.
Things to read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.en.html
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.en.html

>>61655865
Linux is a kernel. GNU makes it an OS.

>>61655926
Well, with Fedora it was worse. I couldn't get the thing to crash less than 7 times in a single minute with any KDE related services. KDE Neon was more of the same, except for tearing which was brutal.

I mean I guess KDE is already a "hurdle" by itself but there has to be a good KDE distro that doesn't have all of these fucking problems. Maybe I'll end up using Kubuntu but I doubt LTS will give me any less trouble than Neon.

>>61655994
Have you tried Arch.

>>61655865
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy

>>61656003
I'm stepping away from troubles, not looking for them

>>61656010
What's your prejudice against Arch?

Recommend me a good vim colorscheme which doesn't respect my xcolors.

>>61656018
search yourself, just check if its a 256colors scheme (those use colors 16-255)

>>61655970
>Most people mistakenly refer to the GNU system as "Linux"
Most people know exactly what they are saying.

>>61648376
Goddamn, fuck linux.

>install linux distro
>couple weeks in, decide to watch DVD on machine
>ERR: can't read disk.
>the fuck?
>"Please install these 5 programs to watch this movie", or something like that
>Do it.
>still could only read certain disks

Fuck your linux bullshit. I'm not as autistic as I need to be for this shit.

>>61656108
Thank you for telling us.

>>61656108
Oh, and don't get me started on which fucking shit software is available. Literally 1990s tier shit.

>>61656108
>Please install these 5 programs to watch this movie
likely story

>>61656108
next time select proprietary packages at install (for the *buntu's) and install vlc

>>61656136
>proprietary packages
>install vlc
what is wrong with you

So let me get this straight

If I install a *buntu 17.04 instead of 16.04, am I fucked and do I need to install 17.10 when it comes out so I can still update that shit?

>>61656015
>unstable
>unstable
>unstable
>unstable
>unstable
>need to download gigabytes per week in updates
>can't nicely hold a package at specific version (dependency hell really kicks in with rolling release)
>breaks all the time
>also:
>unstable

>>61656136
>current year
>using vlc

In TAILS, removing the USB flash drive cause the machine to shutdown, how to replicate this to other distro?

>>61656160
Ubuntu is not a rolling distro. You need to install new versions no matter what version your initial install is.

>>61656168
>tails
use heads instead

>>61656166
Why not?

>>61656196
mpv is where its at

>>61654852
on Lubuntu it's software-properties-gtk

>>61656180
Eh, I see.

Since a lot of people go with Ubuntu, how do they handle these updates then? Are there many reports of shit breaking after trying to update the entire system from say, something like 16.10 to 17.04? My concern is having to actually format the thing every 6 to 9 months and set it up again.

>>61654150
try to disable the ethernet port in BIOS/UEFI or disconnect it from the mainboard if possible

>>61656214
Install the newest LTS and update to the next LTS when a new LTS comes out. This is supported as well as jumping from dot release to dot release.

>>61656196
It isn't hip anymore.

>>61655994
>>61656162
I've literally had none of the issues you're describing with Arch in general and KDE on Arch in particular. You are probably just a brainlet.

>>61656196
this >>61656236
>>61656201
what if he just likes vlc? I prefer mpv myself but there's no reason to force people to install only the hippest software

>>61656214
Normally if you upgrade from one release to the next it is fine. The problems start when you skip a release. Upgrading does not require re-formating!

>>61656248
Oh, then it's fine. I wouldn't skip a release anyways.

Is BASH programing language?

>>61656324
The POSIX standard specifies a shell programming language. Bash implements that with some additions. So yes.

>>61656324
It's turing complete, so yes.

Thank you anon for removing the gnu shit finally.

>>61656324
Yes but anything using math becomes tedious

>>61656211

Thanks.

How can people use Ubuntu, holy shit.

>install it from a minimal install
>starts services automatically after installation
>have to explicitly set the no-install-recommends flag to avoid downloading 50% of the repository
>config files not where it's usually by upstream (i guess debian is at fault for this)
>uses systemd, but not journald for logging, so i have to look all over the place for logs

>>61656609
What makes GNU shit anon? Serious question.

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Hiya, what open-source music player would you recomend for fedora? Thanks

>>61656609
You know, I can understand that it triggers some people who know the system as "Linux" and then someone comes along and corrects them with "GNU/Linux" and then people search for reasons to justify "just Linux". But you guys should think of the price you pay for shitting on GNU and censoring its existence, since RMS and the GNU project is force that made the Free Software community enven a thing in the first place and silencing thoughts GNU and with it the Free Software idealism woun't end up well for all of us.

>>61656935
i'd recommend trying the ones you find interesting and using the one you like the most

>>61656935
mpd with whatever client you want

>>61656108
lol I like how you seem proud of being fucking retarded

>>61657003
> correcting
> censoring
Imagine you were having a conversation about importing some stuff from China and someone keeps getting all up in your face telling you that you are mistaken, it's actually called the People's Republic of China and then proceed to regale you with some version of its history that pushed their agenda. The problem here isn't whether the name is correct or not, it's that it is irrelevant to the conversation and trying to change the subject into a thinly veiled philosophical rant is terribly rude. If you want to start a philosophical argument then do it in an appropriate forum.

And if you really think that people here are trying to "silence thoughts GNU" then you really are autistic and should take some time to read up on human psychology. People don't like being told what to think and tend to push back against that, not because of the ideas being presented but the manner in which they are.

>>61656189
>heads
use tails instead

>>61657039
Yes, i'm looking for suggestions.

>>61657430
when you talk about china, but call it beijing, it leads to problems

>>61657432
Tails aims to be a secure and anonymous distro, but it runs the bug ridden systemd and proprietary kernel blobs, which makes the whole thing a joke.

>>61656108
>apt install vlc

>>61657430
Well, the GNU system is in fact about free software idealism, it's not like that only a part of the history of the GNU system is about software freedom; it has always been like that. The Android system for example isn't about freedom, for example, but both systems share the same kernel, called Linux. How would you think about removing "Android" entirely and referring to it as "Linux"? It's just silly, but in this situation it's in fact irrelevant since the Linux Foundation or Google both don't care about idealism, they just want to make money. The only reason Open Source companies shill the "Linux" thing is because they actually want to silence thoughts about software ethics and instead market open development, which itself is cool, but there's not guarantee that it doesn't lead to proprietary software. "Linux" and "Open Source" is advertising terminology, trolling people into thinking "Linux" is just another system like macOS or Windows, which is nice for development and servers and people understand it that way: they demand the same programs they use on macOS and Windows and companies would be silly to deny them their wishes, so you end up with a large list of distros, all filled with nonfree parts and hardware manufractors seeing no reason to open the sources of their drivers.
tl;dr Terminology can indeed lead people into directions and - ignoring the fact that Linux is a kernel, not a complete system - it's just fair to give both teams, the GNU project and the Linux Foundation the same power to shill their agenda instead of agreeing to one agenda just because it makes you feel uncomfortable otherwise.

Aight, new installation on an SSD.

ext4, xfs or f2fs?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

Arch ARM on Pi Zero, some 370MB RAM available after giving GPU what it needs, do I set up swap? And zram? I'm pretty new to anything that isn't automatic partitioning.

how can I make st regonize some keybinds I've set up (shift+arrow up/down works in urxvt but not in st)

the binds I'm using in bash which work with urxvt:

bind '"\e[a":history-search-backward'
bind '"\e[b":history-search-forward

>>61658272

# BASH Ruler, made by some /fglt/ anon.
ruler() { for n in $(seq `tput cols`);{ x=-;((n%5))||x=+;((n%10))||x=\|;echo -n $x;} }

>>61658370
>not saving the colored version

for n in $(seq `tput cols`);{ ((n%10))&&echo -n \ || { ((n>99))&&echo -ne \\b;echo -en \\e[31m$((n/10))\\e[m;};};for n in $(seq `tput cols`);{ x=-;((n%5))||x=+;((n%10))||x=\|;echo -n $x;}

>>61658370
>>61658401
Since this looks pretty much like golf: You can save 3 bytes with replacing `tput cols` with $COLUMNS, but it will only work as bashrc function, not with external scripts.

for n in $(seq $COLUMNS);{ ((n%10))&&echo -n \ || { ((n>99))&&echo -ne \\b;echo -en \\e[31m$((n/10))\\e[m;};};for n in $(seq `tput cols`);{ x=-;((n%5))||x=+;((n%10))||x=\|;echo -n $x;}

>>61657430
Fucking this

>>61658401
saved
>>61658474
too

>>61658253
F2FS, purely because more people should use it on SSD and report back. Next time I install a new distro it will be on f2fs. Maybe later this evening then.

Why is connecting to Android via mtp such a pain on Linux? It always requires multiple tries and when it finally does connect, it takes a long time to copy files or even change directories. Am I missing something? Is there a better way to transfer files from Android to Linux?
I have a Xiaomi Mi 5 and Debian 9 by the way.

>>61658285
Is up to you, swap is used when your ram gets full, a lot of people these days don't even set a swap partition.
I'd say check how it works without swap and if you think you should add some, you can always do it later.

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>>61658554

>>61658554
I have never needed multiple tries, it works first time but I'm not using chinkshit. (Nexus motherfucking 6). Only thing I have always needed to do is enable the mtp files option on the actual phone. And it works fast enough here.
It's still shit though.
The better way would be FTP.

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>>61658554
but anon, android is linux

I want to install NixOS on my laptop (not VM), thinking of installing using a USB, where do I copy/place the customised configuration.nix file that NixOS set up with my particular preferences?
Sorry to be dumb but even reading the fucking documentation I have not been able to discover this seemingly obvious fact.

>>61658554
Just use ssh bro. Set it up one, enjoy hasslefree shit forever.

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>>61651355
Funny because Transmeta Crusoe is no longer being supported by the mainline kernel

>>61658626
once*

>>61658518
It's a bitch to put on an Ubuntu install from what I'm seeing. Hmm.

>>61658554
i just use adb (push, pull)
support remote tab-completion, so it's just as simple as using cp locally
for example, to throw everything in the current dir to the music folder, it's just;

adb push ./* /sdcard/Music/

i also sometimes run an ftp server on the phone and connect to that, if for whatever reason i don't want to use the usb cable

>>61658626
thanks, will try

>>61658554
I remember Debian 9 pre stable being retarded with MTP. Not sure if they fixed it yet. I have a Xiaomi Mi4c and it just werks on Manjaro. Feels faster than on Windows too. Sometimes it disconnects but that's probably cause MTP is fucking retarded as shit.

>>61658652
On 16.04?
I'd say it's worth a try at least. It's the first viable (I.e. non-pajeetsoft) purpose-built flash filesystem. Not something to dismiss lightly.

>>61658626
What do you use? Termux? Or that SSH server on the play store?

>>61658554
Two questions
-Are you using stable? if so, try upgrading to the testing branch.
-What are you using to connect your phone? DE, file manager, etc

And a final one, are you sure it's not a faulty cable or usb connector?

>>61658681
MTP is a microsoft "standard", after all

>>61651496

He probably had a bad day, that's why he is so aggressive

>>61656108
>Using a DVD in 2017
Kys

how do i change my system font now that i've
>ran xset and added the command to xinitrc
>made a symbolic link from the out directory to ~/.fonts
>ran fc-cache -fv
>logged in/out

i'm running ubuntu mate and can't see an entry for it in the appearance settings, where should i be looking?

the font's tewi by the way

>>61658708
>-Are you using stable? if so, try upgrading to the testing branch.
will do
>-What are you using to connect your phone? DE, file manager, etc
xfce, thunar (though I connect through the terminal with jmtpfs, thunar by itself doesn't give any pop-ups after just plugging it in)

Also I'm pretty sure my cable is fine, but it's a type-C cable, could that have anything to do with it?

difference between ubuntu 16.04 LTS and 17.04?
where i can found drivers for ubuntu?

>>61658704
>play store
Install fdroid.

Yes, I use termux, but you don't need to, there's also a ssh client in fdroid.

>>61658795
Ubuntu's fontconfig disables bitmap fonts (like tewi) by default. To fix that, check the copypasta link in the OP, font pasta section.

>>61658961
there's no link which says "copypasta"

>>61658916
Go read up on Ubuntu's release cycle. Every distro does something different, but for Ubuntu here's the short version:
>17.04 = 2017.April
>16.04 = 2016.April
They have a "Long term support" release every other year, so the next one will be in 2018. It means they'll keep releasing patches for it but you won't get any new features or anything.

>>61658972
use the archive
https://warosu.org/g/

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>>61648376
>GNOME is bloa-

>>61658972
Whoops, I forgot that OP is a faggot.
link: https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
tl;dr
go into the fontconfig directory (/etc/fonts/), and replace 70-no-bitmaps.conf with 70-yes-bitmaps.conf

Why does Ubuntu freeze on startup, displaying something about my hard drive having clean blocks? If that message is harmless, why can't I proceed to CLI login?

>>61658972
http://ix.io/w6A
Better FONTS pasta

there you go anon

Suppose you had a log file with long as fuck lines and you wanted to read them in the terminal instead of a text editor. How would you make it more readable?
I found this sed command on StackOverflow that works nicely.

sed -e '/.\{100\}/ s/^\(.\{65\}\).*\(.\{40\}\)$/\1...\2/'

If a line is longer than 100 characters, then it will only print the first 65 and last 40 charaters. The middle will be stripped out and replaced with "...".
I think this works great but I'm interesting in hearing what other people's approach to this problem would be.

>>61659024
-t?
Yeah, we know

While everyone is talking about Ubongo, is the next LTS going to have Unity available as an option post-install (or even during install)? I have grown attached to it over the last few years, don't want to switch even if the alternative is better tbfh.

Also can someone answer my NixOS question
>>61658624

>>61659024
>GNOME is bloa-
That's actually THE problem. GNOME has been a decent DE until they started removing features everywhere. So yes, GNOME is lightweight, but meh.

>>61659083
I've never done this before but if you mount the .iso and then copy everything to a separate folder, you can find wherever that file is and then edit it to your hearts content. After that make a new .iso and use that one for your install.

>>61659083
>NixOS
Why not GuixSD, it makes much more fun.

>>61659062
less -S

I'm a fucking retard, please tell me how can I cd into directories that throw permission denied? Somehow Kodi is not reading anything outside of /var/lib/kodi but I can't access that directory to copy the files there.

>>61659119
sudo -s

>>61659115
I was wondering if this is the "correct" way to do it, it feels messy but if it's the only way then fine. I think there must be something more clean though because having to edit a file back into an image isn't very efficient.

>>61659117
>more fun
Why is that? I was going to try NixOS because it seems to be more active than GuixSD. I don't really mind either as long as I can set it up exactly how I want.
Functional builds are a fucking great idea, I think at some point every distro will be like this.

>>61659144
>[alarm@pi lib]$ sudo -s cd kodi/
>[alarm@pi lib]$

What am I missing here?

>>61659184
>I think at some point every distro will be like this
Let's hope. Sadly most people aren't interested in change, so it will be a hard fight.

I thought it would be pretty cool if I just do a clean debian base install and work my way up by adding only applications I actually need.

The thing is, now many basic things don't work. E.g. WiFi didn't work and I installed a bunch of stuff reading stuff on the internet. Though I did get it to work using nmtui a few minutes ago.

Now my eyes are being fucked constantly by 100% bright screen. How do I get those Fn keys to work? So I can increase/decrese brightness, volume etc?

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>>61659024
-ted

>>61659208
without cd
sudo -s starts a root shell, then try to cd into stuff you get permission denied

>>61659224
>I'm on Arch, btw

will the rx vega have linux support?

>>61659224
What's the original source of the wallpaper? I keep seeing it.

what is the very best linux?
i dont want to distro hop, just tell me which is the best so I can install and save time

thanks in advance

>>61659277
install gentoo

>>61659256
do you mean as-is, or the picture behind len?
i didn't keep the picture behind len

>>61659224
>vm

>>61659332
so?

>>61659225
Thanks m8, worked

How can I disable vim highlighting false positive errors in bash scripts?
> ((n%5)) || x=+
for ex will highlight the second ), which actually is valid code

>>61658820
For thunar to automatically mount your phone you have to install something like gvfs/gvfs-mtp. But yeah, go for testing if you don't want a headache for having old packages.

>>61659459
Idk how to fix it, but I can explain why vim highlights it as error: Vim takes all shell scripts as "sh" (POSIX shell) scripts. (()) is bashism, hence the error.
>>61659277
Debian GNU/Linux

>>61659343
ram used is double on real

Stupid question: why debian mate 9.1.0 is 1,9GB while debian mate 8.8.0 was 0,97GB?

>>61659525
are you sure?

>>61659510
no it's not

>>61659277
After years of trying different distros, I came back to Debian (Sid) and just feel at home.

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>>61659277
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>61659548
yes it is

>>61659543
I think so, the version i have on my computer is 8.8.0 (i have installed it so it's not corrupter), while i can see on the dowload page that the 9.1.0 is 1,9 GB

>>61653543
turning your computer on and off every day puts more wear on everything than the miniscule difference there might be between wondows and ganoo/loonix

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>>61659277
GNU Linux-libre

>>61659610
Linux can at least be made to use less electricity though

>>61659277
Xubuntu

>>61659217
Literally everything is explained in the wiki. Many of the things may not work because they might require non-free firmware.

>>61659653
best babbies first distro and there's nothing wrong with sticking to it
idk why people keep shilling vanilla ubuntu

How to get thumbnail preview in the upload browser?

>>61659663

Forbidden

<p>You are not allowed to access this!</p>

>>61659277
ubuntu gnome or >>61659653
both stable af

>>61659638
so can windows

I'm looking for a CLI program that can read log files while they're being written to without manually refreshing. bonus points if it comes with syntax highlighting.

>>61659914
tail -f

Going to be starting a small web hosting company very soon. I am debating on the OS to use for my server, out of these what is my best choice?
CentOS/RHEL + Cpanel/WHM
Windows Server 2016 + Vpanel or PLESK
Ubuntu Server + Cpanel/WHM
Cloud Linux + Cpanel/WHM
Debian + Cpanel/WHM

Specs:
Xeon E3-1246 v3
16GB DDR3 ECC
2 x 500GB Samsung SSD

>>61659943
CentOS or Debian. Someone else will elaborate on that.

>>61659981
Thanks for the input, I think I am going to go with CentOS.

>>61659926
thanks, works like a charm

>>61651355
I want one of these so fucking bad

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>>61660043
I hate to be a elitist but nigger you should know your GNU coreutils

>>61648376
wtf I want that tiny computer now

>>61660066
I know tail but only ever used it piped to another program. additionally, I'm kind of new to GNU/Linux.

>>61649548

No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument.

>>61660094
oh well
now you know

>>61660103
y so mad tho senpai. Linux will always be Linux. GNU will always be GNU. GNU/Linux is the combination of both.

>>61658272

sed statement <<< dated

>>61660103
>>>/p/lebbit

>>61660287
>demented
h-how?

>>61660616
You can change sed's delimiter to anything you want. Command translated to the usual / delimiter would look like this:

sed s/a/emen/ <<< dated

If you want to archive true sed wizard powers, read http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/sed.html

>>61656887
Bloat, retarded code conventions, poor documentation and breaking standards.

>>61660765
Documentation is bloat

>>61660765
>bloat
less code doesn't always mean better quality and speed, in fact gnu utils like cat, yes, grep, etc are a lot faster than implemenatations on other systems
>poor documenation
actually the large LOC of gnu utils compared to others comes from the good documentations and code comments, making it easy to hack

>>61660961
Documentation is stripped when you compile.

>>61660254
And BusyBox will always be BusyBox

Is this a good entry point to linux?
https://www.cybrary.it/course/comptia-linux-plus/

>>61661223
no

>>61661214
And GCC will always be required to compile it. ;)

>>61661223
https://kernelnewbies.org/

Why in the love of fuck is kio-gdrive a chore to build on Kubuntu

I spent an hour trying this shit I swear. If only Neon wasn't such a buggy piece of trash

Best cbz/cbr reader for Linux? I love HoneyView on windows.

Retard here, can you guys tell me if this is a good idea?

>Install CentOS minimal with no GUI on server
>Install Gnome 3
>Install Vino
>Download Remmina and use it to connect to my server

>>61661317
gentoo

>>61659663
cant find
any help?

How is linux supposed to be friendly when Linus isn't?

>>61661383
linux has never been friendly

>>61661401
Linux is pretty high on the friendliness scale

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>>61648376

Anyone here on Fedora or Fedora Workstation? I just ordered a breddy cool box:

Lenovo ThinkStation P310
Quad-core Xeon E3-1240
32GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro K620
DVD+RW & 9-in-1 card reader
120GB SDD + 1TB HDD

Lenovo ThinkVision X24 23.8" LED IPS display

Gonna be learning Java and maybe getting some RHEL certs. Figured I might try Fedora Workstation. it has nice VM shit.

>inb4 systemd
>inb4 proprietary IDE
some of us want to get a job. i'm a lowly jr. *nix system admin that can only shell scrupt a little. also I've been an FSF / openbsd fag forever. pls no bully senpai im excited to have an nice computer.

>>61661436
>not building your own server
oh man you fucked up big time, and what the fuck do you need a Quadro K620 for?

hey linux community, I have a linux question on setting up a linux os on my new linux box
i just bought a new linux laptop for installing linux on it, now, i want to know, which linux is the best linux for linux development in general? my linux machine has recent hardware, so a lightweight linux distro isn't really required. which linux distro would you suggest in order to have the best linux experience?

>>61661476
i don't need the k620, and i have rooms dull of servers to fuck with because i work in a data center. i just wanted a nice workstation for at home. are. you in fedora?

>>61661476
>>61661507

correction, i need to k620 because the xeon has no intigrated graphix. kek

>>61661494
Your post gave me Linux-overload.

>>61661436
>sublime
What the heck is wrong with you. There are so many free and great editors and you chose the KEKED one?

>>61661565
>REEEE STOP USING WHAT I DON'T LIKE TO USE

>>61661538
>Pays $200 for a K620 that you don't need instead of just buying a $25 GPU off of newegg
You're a special kind of stupid to waste $175.

>>61661582
>about to cross the street
>someone yells HOLD UP, THERES A CAR COMING
>REEEE STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO

What is the best filesystem for an usb hard-drive used for media sharing between Linux boxes?

if linux became popular, what would incentivize providing support to all of the new users for free?

>>61661619
gentoo

Is manjaro still a wrong choice these days?

I've been trying to find an appropriate KDE distro. I have had my share of issues with many of them, and I already tried openSUSE, Fedora, Kubuntu and KDE Neon. Seems like the only ones left as relevant are Manjaro and Arch.

>>61661633
>if linux became popular
it already is, check how many people already use android

>>61661637
Read the op again.

>>61661320
Bump for this, cmon guys is stilling a GUI on a minimal CentOS installation a bad idea?

>>61661619
the linux filesystem

>>61661436
>Gonna be learning Java and maybe getting some RHEL certs.
So, why'd you buy a new computer for that? A 5 year old toaster would have been more than enough for that

>>61661685
Because java is bloated and uses quite a bit of RAM.

>>61661658
you know what i meant

>>61656935
https://github.com/clangen/musikcube

>>61661565
i'm just asking about fedora but. i used emacs / vim / nano for years and would rather fucking not anymore

>>61661602
i bought the system built for a grand, i'm done building computers. this is a nice set of hardwar, if i didn't like it i would have bought something else

>>61661685
are all of you poor? i'm employed, i can buy a nice computer. i bought it brcause i only have an old laptop for work atm.

>>61661708
it also runs on 90% of servers

What's the reason for the existence of Fedora?

>>61661797
to provide testing for RHEL

>>61661797
systemd

>>61661797
so noobs can install something which isn't called 'noobuntu'

>>61661797
It looks nice on your head.

>>61661613
Accurate analogy.

>>61661668
He repeats 'gentoo' on all questions of the form What's the best X and I must say I agree with his strategy
>dude whats the best file manager lol.
There is none. They all do the same shit. Namely they have icons and let you move files around and copy them so.
You choose the "best" one by trying them all and sticking with the one you subjectively like.

If you asked Can you name all X I could use? the story would be different but nobody asks that.

where can I learn iptables? it looks so difficult and I've read ufw isn't good

>>61661786
>i'm employed, i can buy a nice computer
You're free to waste your money but we're free to calling you out on it.

>>61661924
You got me.

>>61661925
Firewalls generally require you to know what you're doing. It doesn't matter what tool you use.

Is there any good reason to have a swap partition?

>>61661946
ok. i'll just call you poor though. it's a nice power computer, what's wrong with the k620? i don't have intigrated graphics.

>>61661999
If you have under 4GB of RAM or are running memory hungry programs.

New thread: >>61662025

>>61662001
>Whats wrong with the K620
You're using a GPU meant for rendering as a basic display GPU. You shouldve just purchased a cheap GPU off of newegg.

>>61661994
This. You need to employ your brain this time, anon.
Then go here and figure what you need: https://linux.die.net/man/8/iptables

Real new thread:
>>61662049
>>61662049
>>61662049

>>61662039
>>61662066
fuck off

>>61662061
>you have more power than you need
>you should have built a pc
due brah i just bought this cause it has everything i need and want and maybe a few extra horses, why so buttblasted over nothing?

>>61661924
Oh, I got it now, thanks.

>>61662101
You bought a GPU that has like half the performance of a way cheaper Alternative. Good Job getting those extra horses.

>>61662039
>>61662066
You're wrong this is the new thread: >>61662173