/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>61632131
first for debian and golang

what's the white man's distro?

>>61632159
Windows 10

Fourth for Arch

First for
Busybox
musl c
llvm
clang

I just did a full disk encrypted install of arch using LVM on LUKS. Everything is working fine but whenever I plug in external storage it mounts it as read only. Is this happening because of the encryption or is it something else?

>>61632284
Setup a udev rule or setup the drive in fstab

>>61632131
my wifi is from tp-link who do I figure the real name of the device using a command line?

>>61631510
>Slackware is too difficult for a beginner, install Debian
So what makes Debian any better? I have been trying to teach myself unix, so I'm not a complete retard. However gnome is still a mystery to me

>>61632343
You mean a tp-link wifi dongle? For the network device name your system is using try `ip addr` and look for the interface with an IP on it. If you mean the model name of the dongle try `lsusb` and look through there for it, although it might just say the chipset which is probably an atheros one.

>>61632265
lshw, lspci

>>61632151
>golang
>google programming

>>61632381
it's a pci-e card.
so lspci? how do I download the driver using command ? thanks

>>61632420
You have the driver installed already. Have you actually tried using it? Does it request firmware from udev that you don't have? Install the relevant manufacture's firmware from you operating systems package manager.

How many bytes is a megabyte?

>>61632372
debian is botnet
Ubuntu is least bad since they removed adware/spyware in 16.04

>>61632159
>>61632168
>>61632265
>>61632489
>>61632495
STOP
SHITPOSTING

>>61632485
I downloaded a kernel with non-free software removed i wanted to install the driver by myself from debian rep but I need to figure it out how to do it

>>61632489
bout tree fiddy

>>61632489
1024*1024 = 1 MiB
1024*1000 = 1 MB

>>61632532
Can I have a clear answer please?

I stopped using a computer 2 years ago because every Linux distro is shit and windows is Botnet

Is Linux good yet or should I just keep using my superior phone / tablet combo running based AOSP

>>61632561
Linux has been good for decades

>>61632561
Install Debian GNU/Linux

new to linux - how do I save the config file or settings/installed packages so I can automatically run it next time i clean install or use another machine and save me a bunch of time and tinkering?

>>61632575
You copy them over.simple

>>61632580
dumb phone poster

Why is arch looked down here? I'm new and Arch forums and wiki has been so much help and so kind to get my system up and running.

>>61632561
Salix, Devuan, Parabola and Chakra are pretty good

>>61632593
dumb question answer

>>61632598
because the packages aren't reliable and stable and it may break your system

>>61632546
MB * 8192 [converts MB to kilobits]

>>61632598
People who cant use arch,becuse of some mental block or just retardation on configuration, are the loudest group of people that complain about arch, but will use their wiki for their problems.

There is nothing wrong with arch.
"BUT BUT BUT BREAKING"
Things break when users dont update their configs to replicate new/removed features when the system is updated.

>>61632598
The wiki is the only good thing about Arch.

>>61632614
>reliable
>stable
Arch gets its packages DIRECTLY from upstream.Meaning the developers of said programs,who decided an update was needed.

I see FAR MORE people posting about apt systems breaking their system then i ever see about arch breaking

>>61632614
I have heard a lot of stories of Arch breaking on its self on here. I've haven't been using it for long to experience this but is this still true? How do I prevent this?

>>61632637
Its completely false

>>61632637
>How do I prevent this?
install only trusted packages and don't update your system often

>>61632637
Happens a lot.
>>61632642
Stop shitposting.

>>61632659
My arch install is 9 years old.
It has never "broken".

When major user configurable issues arise it is posted on the front page news BEFORE they push it

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>>61632653
>don't update your system often
Arch users everyone.

>>61632307
I don't really want to add a usb stick to fstab everytime I plug one in, is there any other work arounds? Why is the encryption fucking with the external storage mounting?

>>61632637
>still true.
It was never true to begin with.

>>61632677
>why is the encryption fucking with the external storage mounting?

It isnt.Encryption has NOTHING to do with mounting drives
Your udev rules arent setup properly

>>61632653
>don't update your system often
that's actually how you break arch, retard

>>61632691
>Friendly linux
But not him, how does it break it?

>>61632510
Jesus Fucking Christ. The wifi modules are free, hence why the firmware is split into different packages at all. Fuck it, if you are to retarded to figure out if you even need the firmware or not, let alone which chipset you device has, just install all if it.

sudo apt install firmware-\*

>>61632637
https://rbt.asia/g/search/text/arch%20%22that%27s%20normal%22/

>>61632691
quite the opposite

>>61632575
Depends what distro you are using what programs you have installed and what stuff you want to save.

>>61632707
>sudo apt
*get

>>61632629
>stable
>DIRECTLY from upstream
You mean upstream authors that don't give a shit about working with arch and all the other packages? Distros have seperate maintainers for a reason.

>>61632744
It's apt now.

>tfw escaping your depression by shitposting in /fglt/
feels good

>>61632703
Certain programs need certain versions of other programs to work properly.
Sometimes you need to manually do something(systemd) to update your system.
If you're behind 20 revisions on everything shit may not work properly when you update if you didnt take the time to set it up correctly

Where can I put a file if I want to be able to open it directly from the terminal despite the directory I'm in?

Or, rather, I think there's this thing about configuring environments that allows us to say what folders are "global" or something like this.

>>61632753
Arch gets VANILLA packages from UPSTREAM. Arch dosent patch shit in,what UPSTREAM releases is what is used.
All that is changed is setting it up a PKGBUILD for the package.

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>Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.
I've been thinking about making a GNU/Linux distro. I could go Debian, but a Debian-based distro has been done by everyone and their mother; plus I don't really want to make "just another shitty debian derivative". I looked at OpenSUSE's YaST and while it looked the easiest, it seems neglected. I imagine there should be some tools to help with creating a derivative that's done somewhat properly, KISS and all that, rather than me distributing some shitty virtual machine image that everyone else could only log into with the username that I set once.

What I'm looking for is something
>stable
>good hardware support without modifications
>low bloat
>not too prohibitive for me to strip bundled software out of and replace
>will get out of the way on updates and let me get out of the way.
>will get some packages from my server, but otherwise use base distro's default (ie. Salix or whatever I choose as base)
Preferably not too much maintainence on my side. Although when it updates, I would still like it to:
>request (from my server) and show a message/prompt if necessary before letting the like 2 users who might actually use this upgrade
>request list (from my server) of packages to skip upgrades for (from base distro's server) and obey it, but allow overriding from the user end

So I'm considering something Slackware-based, but not directly. I looked at Salix, Zenwalk, Slackel, and Vector. I don't know what's best for me really. I don't have much experience with anything Slackware-based, although I tried Slackware itself for a month.

>>61632755
Fuck off and get meds.

how do I log irssi chats?
how do I save the current session in a file?

>>61632776
Its called $PATH
Somewhere in your path.
Normally ~/bin

>>61632780
install gentoo

>>61632776
>open it
With what? There is PATH for executables and CDPATH for cd, other than that just make an alias.

>>61632780
don't those animes get dizzy inside a dish washer?

>>61632778
Idk man, you don't seem to use Arch. If you would, you would know that Arch maintainers indeed patch packages (like all good distros).

It would be pretty silly to use a distro which actually only uses upstream packages; what if there's a security flaw? Do you want to wait till the developer gets his ass up to fix it, or do you want to have it fixed by the security team immediately?

tl;dr your "UPSTREAM UPSTREAM UPSTREAM" is a meme

>>61632813
you know, type "vim" in the terminal and it opens vim. you type "gimp" in the terminal and it opens gimp. I want to be able to type the name of a certain file in the terminal without having to specify the directory it is in.

>>61632836
>Do you want to wait till the developer gets his ass up to fix it,
Yes,this is how arch works

>>61632842
it is an executable, to note.

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>>61632836
>>61632847
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Patching

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>>61632780
Regarding hardware compatibility, I know with many packages you can make performance optimizations during compilation that will work best/only on your system. Using a Slackware derivative that already runs equally well on many different machines means less thing I could fuck up, one less low-level thing to worry . I probably don't know better than one of the more polished derivatives about compatibility so I would prefer to just piggyback off of their efforts.

also general question. how hard is it to compile a package /once/ that work well on multiple systems? with the scale of supported systems being the same scale as like the average distro? I'm not really looking for the speed advantages of compiling from source like gentoo has/is memed about, just something to make a stable binary from that will work on various different computers to the scale of a major distro' s support.

I'm not expecting to make a real competitor distro, but I figure using Slackware (or something even further down) as a base should help me meet a lot of my goals, and meet them properly.

TL;DR: Making a distro. Slackware-based? Salix?

>>61632862
>troll posting
>>>/r/eddit

>>61632754
>now
?
no more apt-get? when?

>>61632872
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Patching

>>61632878
apt-get is still there, for compatibility

>>61632754
>>61632885
Shit, and I learn this just now. Thanks for the tip.

>>61632885
apt without -get is pointless
I seriously hope canonical didn't change this and you are trolling

"Sudo get''
this is literally /r/ tier

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>>61632131
Why does everyone here seem to shit on gnome, or at least favor other DE's? I'm guessing they just like to jerk off to eyecandy bullshit. Is there anything actually wrong with gnome? shits been around since 96'.

>>61632905
Because i dont use 99.999% of the programs that come with the suite.
It is bloated as fuck

>>61632878
Since apt 2.0. apt-* are still there, apt is just supposed to be a unified interface to all the stuff that the individual binaries do. It still doesn't support quite all of the features of the other ones though, like showpkg.

>>61632905
slow and sponsored by google/red hat

>>61632905
filepicker_meme.png

>>61632918
I think that depends on the distro, right? I mean, gnome doesn't seem bloated in fedora workstation, for instance.

>>61632942
i can see you're prolly critical of enterprise distros but mane some of us use that shit to make a living

>>61632952
Gnome is gnome is gnome on every distro.
The base install is the same

>>61632901
>Many package managers have their commands neatly packed in one single command with options enabling different actions
>Somehow it's wrong that apt-get became apt

>>61632952
>"""""enterprise distros"""""

>>61632963
I think you're confused, some distros don't ship with the entire gbome suite

>>61632968
yeah like RHEL and CentOS

>>61632967
>Many package managers have their commands neatly packed in one single command
source?
Still, apt without -get is shit I hope the degenerates at canonical bankrupt
They are destroying linux

>>61632985
>yeah like RHEL and CentOS
memes for stupid people

>>61632988
stop shitposting

>>61632998
why are you arguing about this? i work in fucking data centers, i'm talking about enterprise linux. fucking memers. i just wanted to know why people hate on gnome DE here that's all

>>61632905
People liked GNOME2. People don't like GNOME3 (for the look/feel and for the programs).

I personally can't stand OSX/macOS clone shit, primarily because I don't understand why people think Apple is the king of aesthetics. It's not that attractive, and 99% of the time, you sacrifice usability for lame shit.

That's just my opinion, but if we're talking Linux people, then I can't imagine I'm alone in preferring usability and function over anything else.

>>61633017
GNU/Linux*

>>61633024
dont make my bust out my last FSF mailer

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Who's the cutest GNU/Linux mascot? For me, it's gotta be Freedo!

>>61633051
>it just showered and is clean from any blobs <3

>>61633017
people who fall for the enterprise buzzword (aka redhat memes) remind me of people who pay 1,500k for helvetica typefaces

>>61633013
I'm 100% serious
You don't start to destroy commands like that in the name of ''simplicity''

>>61632988
>canonical
apt is debian country

>>61633086
Legit question, do you have autism or something? I've never heard someone care this much about what amounts to essentially a name change.

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>>61633051
arch guy ofc

I broke my arch and I was already wanting to try Debian. I rapdly hopped to Debian Stretch. However, I don't understand how it is different from Debian Stable or Testing or Unstable. It seems to me that Stretch is just some Debian Stable with long support time.

Is it possibile to change to Testing without needing to format my HDD again?

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>tfw updates broke bluetooth and volume control and i really can't be bothered fixing it

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>>61633129
distro?

>>61633160
void. bluetooth has a bus error, the volume buttons on my laptop no longer work and the volume controller has vanished from the panel and also any of the options I could use to return it.

>>61632780
just contribute to source mage

>And finally, the lamest vendor response award went to Systemd supremo Lennart Poettering for his controversial, and perhaps questionable, handling of the following bugs in everyone's favorite init replacement: 5998, 6225, 6214, 5144, and 6237 that we covered here.

>"Where you are dereferencing null pointers, or writing out of bounds, or not supporting fully qualified domain names, or giving root privileges to any user whose name begins with a number, there's no chance that the CVE number will referenced in either the change log or the commit message," reads the Pwnie nomination for Systemd, referring to the open-source project's allergy to assigning CVE numbers. "But CVEs aren't really our currency any more, and only the lamest of vendors gets a Pwnie!"

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/28/black_hat_pwnie_awards/

>>61632985
>I think you're confused, some distros don't ship with the entire gbome suite
maybe you are confusing gnome and gtk-using programs.

>>61632988
apt without -get is shit
mhhmm

>>61633086
they didn't destroyed, apt-get still exists, take a breath and stay calm man

>>61633200
>the volume buttons on my laptop no longer work
just set hotkeys to amixer set Master unmute 5%+ etc

>>61633086
It has the same interface. What is destroyed?
And "simplicity" is simplifying the issue. apt-{cache,get,mark} just causes needles confusion and fragmentation.

>>61633265
>needles confusion and fragmentation.
unix

>>61633126
>Is it possibile to change to Testing without needing to format my HDD again?
Yes. Just change the codename in your sources.list and do a dist-upgrade.
As for you other questions just google it and pick a result from the debian wiki. You would get you answer in less time and with less misinformation.

>>61633221
>tagged with "NSA"
lmao

>>61633275
Yes the unix market was fragmented. Part of that was because there was a bunch of mainframe-specific releases.

what's with all the activity itt
it was completely dead last week

>>61633310
>market
what

>>61632575
> config files
Check out 'etckeeper' or use git to retain versions of config files that you can directly copy over to a new machine. Use 'scp' to copy them.
> Save packages
If you're on an RPM-based distro, downloads from YUM are stored in /var/cache/yum
> Install on another machine.
Sounds like you need to look into having a Kickstart server on your network for automated installs, pointing to an online repo (e.g. The same server or another server that's hosting the installation files)

>>61633083
you've never held a job in system administration have you

>>61632677
You need to check your udev rules or add the UUID to /etc/fstab for persistence:

1. Find UUID by plugging in your drive and doing 'blkid'
2. In /etc/fstab add
UUID="blahblah" /mount/point defaults 0 0

>>61633333
nice numbers!

>>61632776
1. 'echo $PATH'
2. Put it in one of those directories
3. chmod +x /path/to/my/file

>>61632598
The community. It's an average distro like any other, most similar to Ubuntu really. Many Ubuntu users, satisfied they've installed 'linux' will feel like elite hackers, although it's an easy task. Similarly, many Arch users, upon installing 'linux, from the command line!' will be satisfied and screen about it.
Arch doesn't provide anything special. It has a more bloated base than Debian, Ubuntu, or Fedora from a netinstall, but with Arch the user's only option is to copy exactly what the wiki says to install it because an installer would be too easy.
Unlike other more difficult distros, it offers no real advantage to this and users don't customize their systems.
The main benefit would be the wiki, and that the package availability rivals Ubuntu.

Unironically, you would be better off and smarter for using Ubuntu from a netinstaller than Arch or a close-to-arch derivative like Antergos or Manjaro.

It has its purposes, but the community elitism kills an otherwise meh distro.

>>61633109
Debian changing apt-get to apt will make a lot of confusion
It's not a welcome edition.
It's like changing dpkg to dp

apt-file = ok
apt install = bad

apt-get you teach the user he is getting a package
Linux is a learning based process

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>>61633221
>5998, 6225, 6214, 5144, and 6237
I grabbed some best moments from those issue

>>61632795
>>61607054
>>61607012
>>61598721
no

>>61632814
>dishwasher
Anon, I...

>>61633428
He's just such a shithead.

And he doe that dad thing with the unnecessary ellipses.

>>61633400
> Debian changing apt-get to apt will make a lot of confusion
If you mean because people try use apt-get and it isn't there, that isn't going to happen.

>apt-get install you teach the user he is getting a package
>thus apt install doesn't?
You are a brainlet. Firstly you are making an unrealistic unwarrented assumpition, secondly have you run apt lately? It prints out download progress along with mirror resolution and selection, install progress with unpacking and configuring steps, prompts for dependancies.
How does adding -get on the process name add to all that at all?

>>61633129
oh no her spaghetti! do you mind if I save this image?

Why isn't there a gentoo friendly version?
Slackware = Salix
Debian = Ubuntu/Mint/LXLE
Arch = Manjaro Linux
*BSD = TrueOS
Gentoo = ?

>>61633215
no (why should I?)

>>61633513
ChromeOS/ChromiumOS

...or Sabayon

>>61633502
>How does adding -get on the process name add to all that at all?
It's a learning process.
First command people learn

sudo apt-get install

.
Removing it will cause confusion

Like you don't need to tell other people to use $ but you do in other to show that "$" indicates start of command
It's a learning process.

People will simply switch to apt without knowing that the bullshit about apt-get being ''old'' and ''lacking'' is propaganda and they'll never learn about the commands
Simplifying commands is never a good idea except when you explain to the user before

>>61633558
>the only use of gentoo is a botnet
what went wrong?
>Sabayon
>''We offer a bleeding edge operating system''
EXTREME RED FLAG

>>61633588
https://distrowatch.com/table-mobile.php?distribution=redcore

>>61632131
should I install gentoo on the old as fuck asus eee pc 1000h?

>>61633712
>mobile
oh fuck oops how long till I get REEE'd out of here

are GUIs a botnet?

>>61633712
>mobile

>>61633712
what is the difference between sisyphus and emerge?

>>61633392
Coming from Debian, I liked Arch communities a bit more. Feel it really comes down to your philosophy on what your operating system and programs should do. I like to keep it simple, not too anal about free software, and love to customize.

The only time I seen elitist is here on /g/ and even in these threads there's hardly anyone crying how its the absolute best unless throwing bait.

>>61633566
So what would be wrong with the first command people learn being

sudo apt install

It does the same shit. Or are you referring to people reading old guides? Because if that is the case why the fuck are you complaining about "simplification"? You should be complaining about changing APIs. And if that is the case you should be more worried about those old guides referring to systemd or upstart or alsa or oss or apt-* not being written in perl anymore.
Also, what if the second command people learn as apt-cache? Well now they only have to learn one. Great!
>It's a learning process
Everything is you muppet. It makes no difference.
> People will simply switch
What, I thought you were talking about the first command people learn? Who are you referring to now?
>the bullshit about apt-get being ''old'' and ''lacking''
No-one is saying these things. As far as I'm aware the only good thing about a unifyied apt is that there are less commands to remember/switch between and apt downloads packages in parellel better.
> Simplifying the usage of commands is never a good idea
wrong
> except when you explain to the user before
I guess you are butthurt that you missed the numerous blog posts, release announcments, mailing list discussions, early releases in testing/unstable and it being available in the repos right from beta.

package managers were a mistake
just download the installer, done

Arch is a stepping stone

>>61634001
to what

>>61634064
source magic

>>61633917
>I guess you are butthurt that you missed the numerous blog posts, release announcments, mailing list discussions, early releases in testing/unstable and it being available in the repos right from beta.
I'm mad because they are destroying linux
Debian/Canonical are cancers

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Why is Arch so mean to GNU. https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/grub&id=f232691e4d49e0073e4c0807fcc41cb242c1e595

>>61634064
installing gentoo on a VM in brain

>>61634072
your posts are stupid and make no sense
rm -rf yourself

>>61634001
A slippery one.

>>61632131
I am running a service that spins up new VMs depending on the server load. Nodejs is running inside a docker container (using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS). I want to use the optimal distro for NodeJS in a docker container and the optimal distro for the docker image (using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS). What is the best distro for Docker and the NodeJS Docker container?

>>61634130
install gentoo

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61634188
apt

>>61634142
On both? Why is Gentoo beter than ubuntu 14 and 16?

>>61634188
There are none. The terminal is not "cool". It is serious business.

>>61633971
>done
lol

>>61634188
[

>>61634188

while :; do :; done

This command simulates the situation before the big bang.

>>61634188

bind 'set editing-mode vi'; bind 'set show-mode-in-prompt on'; bind 'set keyseq-timeout 0'; bind 'set vi-ins-mode-string "\1\e[1;34m\e[3 q\e]12;#4092e5\a\2+"'; bind 'set vi-cmd-mode-string "\1\e[1;31m\e[2 q\e]12;#e54092\a\2:"'

>>61634188

look balls

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Heya /fglt/,

I'm new to Linux and I'm trying to put a new Distro on my harddrive. I dualboot so I use harddrives A and B for Windows and harddrive C for Linux.

Upon installing Ubuntu, it asks what I want to do for installation, install alongside, or delete.
Deleting warns that I'll lose everything. Because I'm trying to wipe Harddrive C, would I also lose A and B?

Additionally, should I try "Something else?" Is there an optimal partition to use when customizing a partition? Is it just Swap, Root, and Home?

Thank you.

>>61634829
Pretty sure you want install alongside. Since that's what you're doing afterall.
Also it should present you with an option to specify the size of your partitions yourself, if not now then later. You don't need home on a separate partition, it's only if you want to be able to reinstall the OS and not lose the files in your home directories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6iRjTsozCU
my waifu

>>61632168
POO

>>61635024
botnet waifu

>>61632918

Your subjective idiocy isn't a valid reason.

>>61632949

That's GTK3 and not GNOME, idiot. You and those people who shit on GNOME for that use other GTK3 programs.
Before you accuse me of it, I don't use GNOME, so there goes your only argument. Idiots.

>>61635367
Guess who developes GTK, retard.

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>>61634075

When I try to click that link, this happens. What is this shit?

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Ho do I make Gnome to show me bigger image previews in this space?

>>61635402

Not the people that develop the GNOME shell and GNOME programs. Perhaps there's some minor overlap.
Even then, what does that have to do with it? The file-dialog is GTK3. You have it outside of GNOME too.

>>61632495
>debian is botnet
your mother is a botnet

>>61634829
only niggers us any option other than "something else" outside of virtual machines. Always manually partition by yourself.

2-4GB swap
10GB root
whatever you want/need for home
optional: 512M /boot to make sure you are never greeted by grub rescue (primary partition, "before" the others)

>>61632131
where would the best place to start teaching myself unix/linux. I'd like to stick to kde based environments because I have previous experience dicking around with puppy and ubuntu. Fuck ubuntu though, that shit's nasty.

>>61635781

Every distribution can run the same software.
KDE Plasma is bundled in all major distributions.
You don't know what you're talking about in regards to Ubuntu. Why is it nasty?

Idiot.

>>61635781
first off, unix is a dead system from the 70s, linux is a kernel, the system used today, gnu/linux, is an unix-like system and you can learn it on any distro, even ubuntu, it doesn't matter. use the terminal a lot, learn bash, make yourself familiar with the most common programs.

read this: http://linuxcommand.org/
and this: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
and this: http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

also, just saying, when you discover a problem with your chosen distro, don't switch in order to solve a problem; fix it. thats essencially for learning the system

enjoy
>>61635946
friendly thread

what's the big difference between arch and parabola? arch seems to have a bigger community so i don't really see a point in using parabola. also, anyone here using emacs? what are your thoughts on it?

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>tfw finally got i3wm working on Debian

/comfy/

>>61632842
Usually what you do is to make a directory for your executables/scripts, say ~/.bin, and add it to your $PATH variable (where the shell looks for executables) through .profile or .bash_profile.

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>>61632131
Randomly get pic error, yet I connect just fine after refreshing the page. Never happens on Arch, Windows 10, Android. Only on Ubuntu LTS (regardless of flavor). Thoughts?

>>61636897
Parabola is cucked arch.
Emacs is great.

>>61637077
>cucked
actually proprietary software is cucking people, rejecting it is absence of cuckery
learn the difference

>>61637067
the botnet has to phone home sometime, goyim. what are you doing that is so important, anyway?

>>61637096
Absence of choice is cuckoldery.

>>61637108
choosing to be a cuck is cuckery

>>61632131
please answer one of the following:

which linux distro should i use for work (trying to avoid windows, but i will have a dualboot setup with 7)

where can i find the best maintained 3rd party repos for either apt or dnf?

>>61637170
install gentoo

>>61632637
It's all bullshit. Arch rarely breaks. I've never managed to do so. Inexperienced people sometimes forget a step in the installation guide. Some wiki pages aren't to the standard of others and contain old or bad advice, usually about config files. This may lead to trouble or annoyance, but usually it doesn't exactly break a system.

>>61633392
>more bloated base than Debian
Please educate me. After doing a pacstrap, what are the unnecessary components?

>>61637320
All those headers

>>61635479
The button on the right side of the search magnifying glass.

>>61637067
Sounds like maybe a DNS issue. Do you have any custom DNS servers on your network? What does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?

>>61637170
> Workstation
Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch

>Server
CentOS, RHEL, Debian, Ubuntu

>KDE offers a lot of customization options
>Its included software offers so many options that shit looks actually cluttered

>Gnome offers bundled software that it's simplistic and straight to the point, clean
>Can't even change the font of the top panel through its tweak tool

Why? Why can't there be something modern in the middle?

>>61638078
Try Mate or some shit. There's enough DEs you should be able to find one suiting your needs.

>>61638078
MATE or Xfce

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Easiest way to run a python script on startup on Raspbian?
There's like 20 different guides and I've tried 2 to no avail so far.

>>61638107
>>61638118
Mind end up with mate at this point. I noticed that Google drive on Gnome works fucking terrible. At least on KDE there's some decent implementation but it requires a KDE wallet.

>>61638182
The sript runs constantly, it never quits or ends.
I guess I technically need to run it one time when the system starts

>>61638156
rc.local shoud work.
The PATH variable might not be defined so you should specify the full path of the python interpreter, something like /usr/bin/python
Also make sure the script has execute and read permissions.

>>61638156
>hostname -I
what's that supposed to do?

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>>61638216
Is this looking good? pnotify.py is the script I want to run on startup.

>>61638325
looks good

>>61638262
It spits our your IP address.

>>61632561

Good distros for you.

>brainlet
Ubuntu (systemd)
Elementary (systemd)

>Easy
Debian (systemd)
Fedora (systemd)
Devuan (no systemd)
Manjaro (systemd can be replaced easily)

>Medium
Void (no systemd)
Arch (systemd)
Slackware (no systemd)

>Hard
LFS (whatever you want)
Gentoo (no systemd)

>>61638368
Didn't work. Tried with the python interpreter path like you suggested and just with python like the guide said.

>>61638375
not on my system

Am I actually retarded?
I set up my printer server in Debian using Cups and Samba. Windows clients can access it easily and it works. However I can't figure out how to use the printer on the server it runs. I installed "cups-bsd" package, set my printer as default and try to print a document using "lpr" command, however nothing happens. When I look at Cups' web interface I see that the print job was stopped.

recommend me a good netbook and/or tablet on which i can install linux

mostly i'll want to use it for e-reading/typing up notes, i don't care about watching video or games

>>61638646
no

>>61638422
your system is broken

>>61632159
apartheid os

>>61638453
nvm, I actually am retarded

>>61638729
You think so? Seems fine to me

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so as we all know i am the only person that uses this computer. i have one single user account that i log into and a separate password for root.

my question to you, fglt, is should I give my only user account sudo permissions? is there a risk with having the same password to use sudo as with logging in?

>>61639070
>is there a risk with having the same password to use sudo as with logging in?

that's how sudo works everywhere you know.

>tfw too retarded to get debian to work the way I needed it to
>tf0w back to cuckbuntu

>>61632131
I need to copy some files with corrupted filenames, which I can not rename because of compatibility, on my Arch machine.
When I try to move them, or do anything with them, nothing happens. It starts copying the folders they're in, and copies everything but those fucked up files.
My Debian machine can handle them well though. But I need them in the Arch one. What could be missing from my Arch+i3 installation that was present in Debian+KDE and making this happen?

>>61639070
>is there a risk with having the same password to use sudo as with logging in?
Yes. If someone knows your password they can also get root access.
Why do you need sudo anyway? You can just use

 su -lc "command arguments" [\code]

>>61639101
>that's how sudo works everywhere you know.
That's not true. It depends on how it's configured.
sudo on openSUSE asks for root password by default.

>>61639158
>sudo on openSUSE asks for root password by default
Well fug, didn't know about that.

Also how you managed to get your post look like this?

>>61639158
well fuck

the command is supposed to be

su -c "command"

>>61639178
>Also how you managed to get your post look like this?
fucked up closing the code tag

The sudo config openSUSE uses involves these two lines:

Defaults targetpw   # ask for the password of the target user i.e. root
ALL   ALL=(ALL) ALL   # WARNING! Only use this together with 'Defaults targetpw'!

There's also

Defaults insults

which prints insults if you give the wrong password.

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>>61639070
Yes, they could go and install drivers on your system if they get a hand on your user password. You can't allow that.

How do I make Xubuntu support my laptop's crappy resolution (it's a toaster)?

What do I need to know to get a gnu/linux sysadmin job? I already have an intermediate gnu/linux experience, including installing gentoo

>>61639488
>installing gentoo
>relevant for a sysadmin job

>>61639512
It was an example of my experience with gnu/linux

>>61639472
applications menu->settings->monitor (or displays)
there you can set your resolution. Not listed? Tough shit, say hello to xrandr.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions

PROTIP inb4 you don't even open the link: it's a generic method that should work for every xorg based system.

>>61639528
Thanks, I'll try.

>>61639488
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxadmin/comments/2s924h/how_did_you_get_your_start/cnnw1ma/?st=j5qryq9j&sh=05cb93fd

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I'm a newbie, what could be the problem?

>>61637320
this is a friendly thread which means no obvious trolling and bait

>>61639818
install gentoo

>>61637320
>arch user too retarded to realize his system is bloat
I wish I was making this upbut that's just how things are

>>61639818
You should ask Lennart.

>>61639818
>systemd
you'll never know because they'd call it crashing a feature

I'm going to migrate my shit over to a larger disk and sort my retarded partition table out while I'm at it.
Can I just dd the BIOS boot partition over to no ill effect?

>>61640193
just cp/rsync your data over and run grub-install again

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>install debian
>reboot
>get this
What do?

>>61640862
bootloader is fucked
reinstall or liveboot usb and run grub-installer

>>61640862
use lilo
grub is a steaming pile of shit

>>61639818
>send an error report
wtf

>>61640862
Tell your camera to put down the bottle.

>>61640877
I can, for some reason, boot using bios.

>>61640895
Just realized grub would always fuck my arch installation when I first wanted to get into linux.

>>61641166
I should too.

>>61641292
>grub
Use syslinux if you a rent useing uefi,its way simpler syntax

>>61632131

I can't for the life of my get Manjaro to install from USB. I at first I was straight up getting a black screen (monitors would go into power save mode). Then I changed nouveau.modeset=0 modprobe.blacklist=nouveau and two toehr setting I can't remember to =0. It started to boot somewhat, but now it's stuck at "Starting TLP" which it looks like there's 25 answers as to what could be wrong there.

>>61641584
Dont use manjaro,these things are common on a downstream distro.Just use arch

New to ricing, where should I install my window manager? Does it really matter?

>>61641950
in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin

>>61641950
Use your package manager

>>61641950
In /usr/local/bin.
>>61642028
> /usr/bin
> This is the primary directory for executable programs. Most programs executed by normal users which are not needed for booting or for repairing the system and which are not installed locally should be placed in this directory.

>>61642086
if it's installed by his package manager, it goes into /usr/bin you doofus

>>61642118
he obviously doesn't use the package manager

>>61642150
He should use his package manager

>grep
>rg
>awk
>sed
How the fuck am I supposed to understand anything? I don't have a PhD in compsci, I merely understand regex...

Anyone on Arch using tp_smapi? Are you having trouble loading the modules after an update?

>>61642247
It breaks sometimes. Gotta wait for the update.

Install grub in arch, currently in chroot.
Trying to run grub-install but no command is found

>>61642247
Did you try to manually modprobe it?
Try reinstalling the module package

>>61642282

It happened once before. I think they forgot to rebuild it after a kernel upgrade.

>>61642311

Yep, says "unknown symbol". I'll try rebuilding it now.

any rtorrent users here?

How do I increase the ncurses refreshrate?

Sometimes I'd press down on the arrow key just to have the gui refresh faster. Wish there was an environment variable or something to make it update at like 12 fps or something

>>61642297
Install GRUB then.

>>61642297
You do grub outside of the chroot
Follow the god damn wiki

>>61642247
>Arch
>having trouble after an update
That's normal.

So after a while I'm rather confused

What's a good desktop focused distro+DE for someone who abuses online services?

There are two things I always had trouble with: Google drive integration (that is having a quickly accessible folder that syncs with google drive, as just accessing its contents online everytime is really slow) and having a really basic email client with desktop notifications that runs in the background at all times.

I cannot seem to find a decent solution for these so I have to ask.

>>61642297
pacman -Syu grub

>>61642373

Nice meme, retard.
Kill yourself.

>>61642375
dont use google services, it's the botnet

>>61642399
Good, I'll embrace the botnet. Any actual solutions?

I'm skilled with shell scripting. Will I get a job?

>>61642375
>distro
any of them
>software
any of them
Try them out retard find what you like
Its not as if you cannot uninstall software
We dont know your person likiongs

>>61642464
>>61642381
>Friendly

>>61642484
>Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

>>61642490
Frienly counts more. It even has stars!

>>61642490
Probably should of said that instead of being a meanie poo

>>61642247

nvm solved it
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/54975

>>61632131

I got manjaro to boot from USB. But clicking on the live installer I nothing happens. It just wont't start for some reason. I can open firefox and sysguard, but the installer just wont show up. Infact calamares shows up in the process list, but no window

>>61642942
V
>>61641809

>>61642942
have you tried using thus?

>>61642967

Manually partitioing my drive sounds scary desu

>>61642975

How can I download thus

>>61643073
it should already be a part of manjaro live, just open a terminal and do sudo thus, manjaro live password is manjaro if I remember right

if it's not installed then just run sudo pacman -S thus

>>61643107

I get:
"warning: cannot resolve "webkitgtk3", a dependency of "thus""

I tried sudo pacman -S webkitgtk3 which siad it couln't find.

help i deleted apt how do I fix my compUTER

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>>61643178

>>61643178
apt is just a fancy interface for dpkg
just download the package from repos and install it you faggot

>>61643178
reinstall apt
either boot a livecd of your distro, then run apt with arguments to use your on-disk system's paths instead of the livecd's, and use that to install apt)
or if you still have a working dpkg, use that to install the apt deb

>>61643178
>download it from packages.debian.org, packages.ubuntu.com or packages.linuxmint.com
>switch to the directory where you downloaded it
>install it with dpkg - i filename.deb

>>61643178
sudo apt-get install apt

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Is there anything wrong with Ubuntu as first linux ever?

>>61643451
not really, no

>>61643451
Ubuntu is just a linux distro

It doesn't lack much of what the average desktop user would need. The only thing that makes it entry level is that it has some things installed by default. Remove those things and even though it's not entry level anymore, it's still Ubuntu.

My point is, you might start with Ubuntu, go through every goddamn distro, learn a lot, and end up in Ubuntu.

>>61643885
ubuntus main selling point is software center, which would be great if it weren't always crashing and laggy.

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Nice, today read about some """iPXE""" on hacker news. Pretty sweet shit.
https://netboot.xyz/

Let's you boot into a PXE environment and directly install your prefered distro. This is pretty cool. Just gotta waste one old USB stick and then always have it ready whenever I feel I need to do distrohopping

>>61644020
>ubuntus main selling point is software center
No, Ubuntus main selling point is that it's useable out of the box combined with fixed release dates so you can plan your upgrades accordingly. Software Center is only interesting for those afraid of using the terminal.

Is there a way to get the same configuration for mouse acceleration and such for KDE as in Gnome? Gnome seems to have its own thing and flat produces the resuts that I would want. However when I set a flat profile on KDE following the Arch wiki shit's still kinda laggy.

>>61644062
It tried to boot Grml and ran into a missing signature error.

So i installed smgl, rebooted and everything seems to work fine except i cant see my network devices. Ifconfig only shows localhost

Hope you guys can help me with this, im still learning

>>61644509
Run `lsmod`, is the kernel module for your network card listed in the output of lsmod?

>>61644404
The only thing I tried was booting arch. Was perfectly fine.

What's some cool things I can do with a second monitor (minus the obvious "you can browse web while watching movies ,or playing vidya stuff)? I already have conky and shit on monitor 1...

>>61644615
Have a nice wallpaper on it

>>61644081
which is normies, which just happens to be the bunts target audience

>>61644615
I had two monitors and I would usually put youtube streams/long videos or lectures on it while doing other shit.

I ended up ditching it though.

>>61644642
Ubuntu targets everyone besides rolling release faqs

>>61644557
Im not sure, i dont think so, though. Called modinfo on every running module but none said anything about wireless stuff

>>61632575
have separate / and /home partitions.
clean install on /
don't format /home
give you're self the same username.̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬̬

What's with openSUSE and the default btrfs+xfs layout?

Are they just hipsters or is there an actual point to this?

In Gentoo, when emerging a package with --ask, after calculating the dependencies it'll list the USE flags supported by the package. Some of those flags listed are blue in color while others are red. Does the color indicate anything?

>>61645190
>openSUSE
>Are they just hipsters
What you don't say

>>61645200
it reflects whether they're enabled or disabled, as does the minus symbol
the colour just stands out more than the minus symbol, making them easier to differentiate

>>61645200
blue are good flags, red are evil flags

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Got this back from

ss -lntu

Does this mean I have all my ports open or just SSH?

>>61645228
Enabled or disabled according to /mnt/gentoo/etc/portage/make.conf or /etc/portage/package.use which overrides make.conf, correct?

>>61645309
22 is open on your machine, why would you think otherwise?

>>61645274
Actually, red are whats enabled and blue is whats disabled. Disabled flags are the flags you don't want, so in this case, blue would be evil.

>>61645355
Just got a VPS and I remember glancing over something that said "all ports open" and wanted to check whether or not that was the case.

>>61645347
yes, USE in make.conf applies to everything, then package.use entries override those
for example, if you want "opengl" for everything except say "mpv", then you do;
make.conf: USE="opengl"
package.use: media-video/mpv -opengl
or the reverse (disable globally, enable for specific packages)

>>61645347
>/mnt/gentoo/etc/portage/make.conf
I meant /etc/portage/make.conf

>>61645388
>>61645347
oh, those are both on top of package defaults (what is enabled/disabled when none are explicitly enabled/disabled in those files), and also dependency requirements (if you install something that depends on another thing having a specific feature, then emerge will tell you and ask to add a package.use entry for it)

>>61645388
Got it. However, for packages which support many use flags, I tend to use * when I want to enable all the flags or -* and then list only the few flags that I want. I take it package.use will still support this syntax?

>>61645428
Okay. And an emerge --ask should list any required dependencies and prompt for an installation if they are not installed right? Or does it list them but not tell you whether they're installed but instead just goes ahead and does it after you type yes?
Also, is there a way to view what flags are enabled/disabled by default per package? I suppose there wouldn't be any real need to know since I'll still use make.conf and package.use but I'm just curious.

>>61645465
i don't see mention of "*" in the package.use page on the gentoo wiki

>>61645553
emerge will list dependencies which need changing (be it because they aren't currently installed, need to be up/downgraded, or need a use-flag change to satisfy what you're installing)
if you notice the beginning of each entry, they have "[ebuild ......]", letters will show up in that space, denoting what is hapenning, for example "N" for new (not already installed)
use flags will show a "*" at the end of them, if they being changed, like "-opengl*" means opengl is to be disabled for that package
not sure about viewing package defaults, could just view the ebuild file itself

I want to set up a dual boot with win10 on my laptop. I've only used some distros in VMs so far, I think I have enough understanding not to need Ubuntu. I want a distro that "just werks", is stable, will have long term support (something I won't have to reinstall every year), and has a wide range of packages (don't really care about FLOSS, can use some proprietary software if it werks best). Which distros should I check out? Which environments would you recommend and why are they superior?
I have a Lenovo Ideapad Y700-15 ISK (i7-6700HQ, GeForce GTX 960m, full HD.

>>61645894
>I want to set up a dual boot with win10
Don't do it. This is a friendly thread, and friends don't let friends use Win10 after all.

>>61646003
I know they don't, but I want to smoothly move everything instead of just jumping in like a madman and fucking something up.
I plan to eventually fully move to that distro, so just consider this a request for a full switch distro.

>>61646126
If you think you are above Noobuntu you should be ready to jump in knee-deep.

Just use Ubuntu LTS

Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ cat /var/log/apache2/error.log | tail -10
invalid port e
Usage: ping [-aAbBdDfhLnOqrRUvV] [-c count] [-i interval] [-I interface]
            [-m mark] [-M pmtudisc_option] [-l preload] [-p pattern] [-Q tos]
            [-s packetsize] [-S sndbuf] [-t ttl] [-T timestamp_option]
            [-w deadline] [-W timeout] [hop1 ...] destination
Usage: ping [-aAbBdDfhLnOqrRUvV] [-c count] [-i interval] [-I interface]
            [-m mark] [-M pmtudisc_option] [-l preload] [-p pattern] [-Q tos]
            [-s packetsize] [-S sndbuf] [-t ttl] [-T timestamp_option]
            [-w deadline] [-W timeout] [hop1 ...] destination
invalid port e
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ cat

What's a good taskbar to use for Gnome?
Something at the bottom which shows all the current running programs.

>>61646780
Wow I thought you guys used Linux

>>61647035
not all of us use apache though