How the fuck is this legal? Wtf

>>61617606
>/p*l/

>give you a warning about the contract you signed

Seems like they are doing you a favor since you can't seem to keep track of it yourself.

>>61617606
No HTTPS, senpai

>>61617606
How the fuck did you manage to download one terabyte of data in one month?

>>61617606
because you didn't use https

>>61617606
>LAND
>OF
>THE
>""""FREE""""
lmao

GNU + Linux does not have this problem :^)

>>61617606
>1024 GB monthly data plan
You lucky motherfuckers. I only get 150 GB a month.

>>61617606
so you have to pay $30 bucks now?

>>61617624
>>61617643
Why isn't it default?

>>61617692
Because you're not using HTTPS Everywhere.

>>61617717
No shit. Why isn't 4chan using https by default?

>>61617635
This. This is about 35gb a day. The fuck are you doing op?

>>61617732
there's no way you used a tb just on 4chan. Not even close.

>>61617659
It can't have it's unencrypted web traffic intercepted by an ISP who injects a little dialog box into it? How so?

>>61617732
National Surveillance Agency

>>61617747
Don't dodge the question you nigger

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>>61617635
Not OP, but I can seed almost 1TB/week without even trying - And I don't even have a decent internet connection.

>>61617606
What is legal and what is right seldom coincide.

>>61617606
yeah its gay op. cox is going to enforce the same fucking thing november here.

i pay $100 a month for my ((UNLIMITED)) plan and have a 1tb cap.

>>61617606
>burning 1tb of data in 1 month
How in the fuck. I burn at most like 200 gb, and that's only because I download chinese cartoons. Otherwise, it would be like 50gb at most

I don't have that problem.
t. European

>>61617966
Wtf? I pay ~10$ for 100/100 unlimited in Russia.

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>>61617966
I spent more than 1tb just in chinese cartoons

>>61617989
>>61617796

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>>61617991
Stop using Coalgirls, anon.

>>61617796
>>61617606
How about, I dont know. Swallow your pride and switch to the competitor next to XFinity and Cox like CenturyLink. Thats what I did 35$ a month 20mbs unlimited and no overages.

Buy your Ian cable/wifi modem combo and do not use the default that they send you.

>>61617645
freedom to get cucked by corporate oligarchs ayy lmao

>>61617788
>>61617734
>>61617635
OP what the fuck? are you torrenting a copy of GTA every day?

>>61618036
Does he not know he could have usenet sand seedbox?

>>61618035
It's cuck mentality we have here. Divide and conquer people with corporations vs Government idealogy for the left and the right, then once they are distracted reap all the rewards for the Jews behind the scenes.

>Inb4 I can't switch I can take 10$ per 50gb

Stop being a beta and switch do not whine about it.

>>61617606
>not using https
Rookie mistake
>not using add-ons to automatically rewrite urls to https
Get out of /g/

>windows 10
>google chrome
>HTTPS Everywhere not installed
>complaining about getting MITM'd by ISP

9/10 bait

>>61618083
I am using nothing but http.

Do I care?
>Nah

>>61617717
This thread just made me realize my HTTPS Everywhere was for some reason disabled. Not by me...I haven't touched my extensions since first installing and enabling them.

>>61618131
Neither do I, but you reap what you sow.

>>61618146
sow nothing but offline development and online shit posting and youtube.

The ISP knows where you're going and does forward your request to DNS. It is easy to display a message with needing to know what website you're going to. It could even be a simply webpage which the flags allowing it to over display.

>>61618165
To display a message they would have to inject it into the data in transit. With http that is trivial, with https it's impossible unless the mitm the connection, in which case it becomes illegal.

>>61617606
GOP sure gonna change this because those bad Rep cucks! Be sure to Trump up goy!

>>61617989
>in Russia.
you have other problems like that recent ban if anything

My ISP does this too, but only to let me know when there are planned service outages.

>>61618355
>implying that losing legal access to VPNs for a while isn't a fair sacrifice to prevent (((Soros))) operatives accessing their western masters on the sly

just purchase a vpn fagit

Only in the glorious us is this possible. What! Don't like it. Then go to another country (hopefully one that won't be invaded by the country you used to live in). You can also just switch or do all your heavy bandwidth at a corporation

>>61617606
HAHAHAHAHA


HAHAHAHAHA

ww3 when?

>>61618380
You could also spend for a business account, but some ISPs might expect that you are actually operating a business, because consumers need to know their place vis-a-vis the grand bourgeoisie.

>>61618409
Mid-2018, if the astrology is correct.

>>61617606
>windows 10
serves you right, dumb faggot.

>>61617616
It's a bullshit contract to begin with.

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>>61618662
I loled, go to bed sweetie

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>xFINITY

lol mericans

>>61617606
>living in america

>>61617606
Wtf I like to live in Russia now

What the fuck does HTTPS do to avoid data caps?

>>61620982
Nothing

Do murricans have virtual ISP resellers that offers better/unlimited plans or are they actually stuck with the few government approved network owners?

>>61621031
Is this some sort of new meme I'm missing?

>>61621125
They can not inject the advertisement/warning-message with https enabled. That is all.

Americans.

>>61617606
>/pol/
You got what you deserved. Unfortunately the rest of the population is going to suffer for it as well.

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>>61617606
The invisible hand of the free market will fix it
Now buy those extra GB, goyim

>>61617606
Use HTTPS.

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>>61617606
>tfw AT&T

>>61617606
>incognito
haHAA 12 btw

>>61621933
Hi merchant

>>61617610
>>>/pol/ they would support the free business practices because it is a benefit of their beloved failing system name capitalism.

>crying about cuckcast
>muh net neutrality
>muh rights

God some of you fags are unbearable.

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Because you agreed to it in the TOS.

>>61622647
dumb nazi capitalists

>>61617606
>Comcast

>/pol/
You should enjoy the free market at work. Don't like it? Don't pay for it.

>>61618662
Well, who was it that signed the "bullshit contract"?

>>61623099
(((Soros)))

>>61623112
>blaming soros for your bad life choices
Back to Kekistan you go.

>>61623199
>t. (((Soros)))

>>61617635
100Mbps connection can do that in a day t. torrent user

>>61618018
>Competitor
If an isp had actual competition they wouldn't be able to pull this bs

>>61622647
>this is what shitlibs really believe

>>61623099
his mother, probably.

>>61617606
Stop pirating.

>this thread for the third time this week

>>61624272
Make me

How many times a day are we gonna have this thread? We're currently at twice a day, but the rate is increasing

I got off Cuntcast the second they started waving around the idea of caps

Found a local ISP that has better speeds for cheaper with no cap and no surprises on the bill

Best fucking thing that could have happened. I suggest everyone do the same if they're not sittting in a monopolized area

because you reject communism

Hypothetically:
If you're using https everywhere and are on their DNS servers would they still be able to inject messages like in OP?

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>>61617606
>mfw you're not only allowing them to send this message, you're paying them to do it
>and complaining about it on a burmese belly dancing forum

> americans
nice

would feel sorry for you but you lot of retarded in your support of corporations fucking you over.

>>61617717
https everywhere is TRASH, make your browser slow to a crawl, I just keep track of sites and enabled "always use https" in here.

>>61617606
how the fuck do you know how to download a terabyte in a month and not know how to change your DNS?

>>61618018
Most of the country has only one option. Let alone 2 (still bad) or 3.

>>61617606
Move to a part of the country with a more competitive broadband landscape, like the northeast. Comcast doesn't have data caps in that entire region because they have enough competition from verizon and others to keep them in check.

>>61617606
lol is this what burgers call "freedom"?

>>61624641
Yes. My ISP injects ads from DNS server and you only can remove it by using adblocker or host.

>>61617606
>free markets are better!

>>61624880
Or just use a different DNS server.

>>61624888
Well yeah, it also works that way.
Anyway I still get redirect to their ads occasionally even though I already change the DNS, how the fuck do they that?

>>61624880
thats like saying flies keep coming in through your front door so you've thumb tacked a blanket to the ceiling around your computer. You can just use a different DNS

>>61624882
I mean they kinda are, leftcuck

>>61624916
did you change the DNS on your router or on your OS?

>>61622647
>Being this much of a shitlib

Lol

>using a TB of data every month

that is hard to do. i have a TB data plan and stream most of the time i'm home, and never get even close. you'd seriously have to -try- to go over it every month.

yes it's perfectly legal because you agreed to it in your contract.

>>61624882
The problem isn't free market, it's the lack of competition between ISPs. Literally the opposite of what you said you fucking idiot lmao

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I pirate shit all the time and dont have data caps,get spectrum my dude.

>>61617606
Do you have Internet via satellite never seen this anywhere before.

>>61624931
OS. They use transparent DNS for retarded reason.
Also found out just now that they inject filter at port 80, what the fuck.

>>61624928
They are, but internet service inherently can't function like a free market. There's a finite amount of space that can be used on public land to build out a network, so cities and towns have to choose which one company is allowed to use that space, creating a regulated local monopoly. Thus, the companies should not be allowed to do whatever they want, because the situation simply doesn't allow competitors to come in and participate in an actual free market.

>>61622409
>tfw download 40Mbps and upload 10Mbps
teach me your ways

>>61624916
Redirected where?
Some sites use some tricky popups and redirects that work once a day or when you try to download your pirated stuff

>>61624975
Comcast is cable, and in many places, they are a monopoly.

>>61623099
Just saying, my ISP introduced data caps AFTER I had already signed up. The fine print allows them to do whatever the hell they want at any time.

>>61624975
Comcast has a 1TB cap now everywhere except the northeast.

>>61617606
At least get your a terabyte. My ISP (Cable One) has their customers capped at 300GB/mo. Makes me nervous to use HD Netflix, which is exactly their plan. Force users back to their cable TV package.

Huge conflict of interest, but without regulation they screw people as much as they possibly can. Capitalism FTW.

>>61617606

Lol, murica.

EU master race reporting in. 360Mbps unlimited fibre internet for €40 per month. Jelly?

>>61624996
Well technically it's not pop out. Kind of like you browse something then my browser accessed their ads website before showing my desired website. Since I use adblocker, then everytime they do that the accessed is stopping and I need to refresh it.

>>61625060
>EU master race reporting in
>EU

lol

>>61624882
About 12 ISPs to pick from, low prices and high speeds because of competition
Yes, free market is the best

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>>61625060
Meh, $70 month unlimited 1gbps in the US.

>>61625124
>1gbps
>barely reaches 900mbps

>>61624988
like if satan was an isp

>>61625083

>salty brit detected

Enjoy your chlorine washed chicken.

>>61617635
and how much of it was porn?

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>>61625134
Are you retarded?

1gbps NIC's cap out at ~945-950mbps because of TCP/IP packet overhead.

Do the math yourself, packet overhead is ~5.5% on a 1000mbps that's ~945mbps.

>>61625195
So your home network is limiting the speed of your internet connection? That's fucking retarded. Why aren't you using 10GbE?

>>61625244
No, the fiber terminal my ISP uses is the limiting link because it has a 1gbps NIC.

Once my ISP upgrade to ONTs that provide SFP+ fiber output, or 10Gbps ethernet, then I could get faster speeds.

My ISP technically provisions 1024/1024mbps at the OLT, but again, since the ONT has a normal 1gbps ethernet NIC, nothing I can do about getting it any faster.

>tfw you have to run proprietary software in order to have the internet

>>61617606
don't go over you data plan than you stupid nigger

>>61625195
Idk, i pay for 150mbps and get 190mbps. I just kept telling cox my internet had piss poor connection until they bumped my shit up

>>61625268
So then your ISP is selling you something that their hardware isn't even capable of. Sounds like a class action lawsuit incoming.

>>61625285
Every gigabit ISP in the country does this. So good luck I guess.

Google fiber? 1gbps NIC
AT&T gigablast? 1gbps NIC
Comcast DOCSIS gigabit? 1gbps NIC
etc, etc.

You can complain all you want, but 99% of consumers aren't going to spend the ~$1000+ to upgrade their internal networks to supports 10gbps anyway.

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>>61625311
Nope, DOCSIS 3.1 modems have dual ethernet ports to achieve 2gbps.

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>>61625335
Lol are you joking?

No one offers DOCSIS 3.1 currently, and if they do it's in a tiny pocket of the country with barely anyone using it.

Comcast offers 2gbps fiber to my house if I wanted it, but it would require me to provide my own 2gbps+ capable router. The one they provide for you has (you guessed it) a 1gbps NIC.

>>61625359
are you seriously complaining about $150/mo for 2000mbps???

I pay upwards of that for 150mbps. Stop complaining you privileged fuck

>>61622647
They're anticapitalists, actually. They're actually nothing more than commies, like you leftie scum.

>>61625359
The point isn't having a 2gbps internet connection. It's so that you can get the full speed of a 1gbps connection. If you did have 2gbps, you'd have the same problem again since you'd be limited to 2gbps minus overhead.

>>61617669
Me too. And we don't get "courtesy" coverage. If I go over it's an extra $2 per GB.

>>61617635
it's really easy if you have amazon prime and watch 4k series or netflix and watch 4k series

and then also private trackers

takes me over every time

>>61625002
Your ISP usually sends you a email or letter in the mail stating changes to your contract. If they don't then it's illegal and you can sue them.

>>61625284
When I paid for 150/150 I was getting 170+ regularly. However, at 1gbps you're hitting the limit of the hardware, no matter what you want to do about it on the ISP end, the hardware itself is your limit.


>>61625387
Complaining? Lol, no. But since they charge $1000 installation, and it would require me to buy a ~$500+ router, and upgrade all my NICs to 10gbps, and my switches, and re-run all of my CAT5e drops with CAT6a. It's just too much of an expense to be worth it when I have 1gbps for $70 already.

>>61625397
>It's so that you can get the full speed of a 1gbps connection
What the fuck are you even talking about, you would NEVER notice the difference between 940mbps and 1000mbps outside of speedtesting.

Further, YOU'RE the one claiming my ISP is somehow ripping me off despite the fact this is how every single 1gbps ISP in the entire country (hell even the world) works.

1gbps in europe rarely even breaks 800mbps but they still sell it as 1gbps.

>>61617692
uses an extra 0.001% cpu vs non per request
shit adds up
any 4chan extension even built in allows it if you for some odd reason dont have https errywhere

I only got 60gb per month
>>61617669
>>61617669
I only got 60 GB per month

>>61625428
$1000 installation? Doesn't google charge like $100

>>61625456
$300 for google if you miss their initial fiberhood sign up.

>>61625151
enjoy being a vassal state :^)

>>61625456
Also, I should add, even though it's $1000 install, comcast will eat ~$10,000-15,000 of the total installation cost (running a dedicated fiber line to your house aint cheap)

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>>61625428
>despite the fact this is how every single 1gbps ISP in the entire country (hell even the world) works
It's not though. I just showed you an example of a cable modem with dual ethernet ports. Why is your isp selling you 1gbps service when their ONT doesn't at least have dual ethernet?

>>61625501
>9/19/2015

lol good job posting from a fucking data center.


No RESIDENTIAL ISP in the ENTIRE US provides over 1gbps besides comcast with it's 2gbps FTTH service (which again, you're given a router with a 1gbps by default so unless you provide your own, you're stuck at standard ~940mbps (1gbps) client side)


Show me a single residential ISP in the US that offers "true" gigabit.

It's not google
It's not comcast
It's not Verizon
It's not AT&T
It's not any of a half dozen smaller gigabit ISPs throughout the US.


So show me one faggot.

>>61625501
>fastmetrics

That's a business fiber provider and they charge $300+ a month minimum. Not exactly even close to the same league as residential $70/month 1gbps.

>>61625549
>he still doesn't understand how link aggregation on two ethernet ports would allow him to get the full 1024mbps he's paying for and not the 940mbps he's limited to

>>61625624
No one is denying that, now show me a single residential ISP that will provide that to you.


You're avoiding the point because you know you can't find any examples.

>>61625624
All i am hearing is
>Why doesn't your ISP offer something pretty much no other ISP that offers gigabit offers either?!?!?!?

sure you can be upset, but as the dude has said, literally all 1gbps providers in pretty much the entire world for residential service will call 940mbps (the rough limit of a normal 1gbps NIC) gigabit.

Data caps are a good thing though. The companies make a lot of money so they can make the internet great again.

>>61625060
Lol, EU master race.
East EU reporting in. 1Gbps unlimited fiber internet for 20€.

>>61625737
>1Gbps unlimited fiber internet for 20€
I bet you don't even get over 940mbps.

>>61625737
Where tf in the EU do you get these kinda speeds and prices

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>>61625725

>>61625741
931Mbps now that I tested and upload was 590Mbps, I'd say pretty good for 20€ per month.
>>61625752
Told you, East Europe. But now we (and it's official as far as I know) call ourselves North Europe (probably because we don't want to asociate ourselves with Russia).

>Using Comcast DNS
Thats how they're able to inject that message into your traffic.

>>61625857
>931Mbps now that I tested and upload was 590Mbps, I'd say pretty good for 20€ per month.
I'm just giving you shit cause this moron keeps claiming an ISP can't call it 1gbps since it caps out before 1000mbps.
>>61625134
>>61625285
>>61625335
>>61625397
>>61625501
>>61625624

>>61625874
kek, it would be redundant to advertise speed as "946Mbps!!!" it's not how it works... Speed will change every time it's measured.

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>>61625921
Yeah, the dude is retarded.

Ah well, gigabit is fantastic for those of us lucky enough to have it cheaply.

>>61625946
>>61625921

Similar to when a TB hard drive has closer to 900GB

>>61625649
You buy your own cable modem. If you're paying your ISP $10/month to rent a cable modem, you aren't particularly smart.

>>61626109
Even if you provide your own, who offers you 1gbps+ in any case?

Comcast's 1gbps is 1gbps down with 30-40mbps upload, and it rarely actually hits 900mbps+

>>61625695
Not true though. The cable modem or ONT is usually provisioned for something greater than 1024mbps. The bottleneck is the ethernet interface on the other side, which has been solved by modems like the SB8200.

>>61617606
>no HTTPS

Want to hear something funny? In Canada, using a third party ISP (almost impossible in the US) like TekSavvy gives you unlimited bandwidth for $10 CAD ($8.04 USD) in Ontario or Quebec. In comparison, Comcast charges $50 USD for unlimited bandwidth outside the Northeast.

Unfortunately, it could get worse with the new CRTC chairman.

>>61626151
Lol jesus kid, just shit up. Yes it's technically possible, but NO ISP will actually get you that.

Comcast's service simply isn't provisioned that high, or if it is you can't actually achieve those speeds.

There might be some smaller DOCSIS providers out there that can manage to push those speeds, but they're few and far between, and far from the usual, even for 1gbps customers, i'd wager more than half would simply be too far away to see more than 900mbps even if they were provisioned for more.


And it's STILL a fucking moot point once you get to a client device unless you're some autistic moron who actually upgraded his entire network for 10gbps.


Just stop man, NO ISP in the entire country behaves like you want them to for a residential client. MAYBE if you're an enterprise customer you'd have some sort of point, but the entire fucking country's supply of 1gbps internet providers is going to give you a 1gbps NIC handoff by default period. The original argument of
>sounds like a class action lawsuit
Is simply laughable, it would never happen because EVERY ISP in the country who offers 1gbps CURRENTLY does the same damn thing.

the UK is a pretty cucked country in many ways but america is by far the most cucked country in the west when it comes to internet.

what a sad little country

>>61622647
Murrican were cucked into capitalism meme while they have corporatism.

3 companies created cartel like situation where they deny to replace old infrastructure with fiber because they can just charge more for something that should be free ie. internet caps.


Exact same thing with health care where group of people is making billions every year thank to closed market and service overpriced few times.


Funniest part is that burgers were told that its free market and they should defend it.

>>61624993
Idk man. AT&T started offering symmetrical gigabit fiber in the suburbs for 80$/mo.

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>>61626217
Please stop posting about things you don't understand. Comcast's 1gbps tier is provisioned at 1.21gbps, so you're absolutely limiting yourself by not using a modem with two ethernet ports and dual aggregation. Also, most motherboards these days have dual ethernet as well.

>>61626302
>gigabit
>945mbps
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61617606
>Posts on /pol/
>Probably voted for Trump, who is doing everything in his power to make this and tons of other anti-Internet freedom shit legal

You brought this upon yourself man. In the end Trump's young demographic is going to cuck itself to death.

>>61617635
OP here, I used pornbay. And a good siterip will usually be 35+ GB

>>61626318
What is overhead, and someone probably streaming video in my house.

>>61625060
How's the Muslim cock taste Sven?

>>61626311
>most motherboards these days have dual ethernet
Are you delusional? SOME motherboards, not most. And you'd better make sure they're intel not some bullshit realtek garbage.

Also, how many people are provisioned for 200mbps(242mbps provisioned) and only see 190mbps? Like I fucking said, half of the customers would likely be far enough away that they wouldn't ACTUALLY see any more speed. If you're right up against the CO, sure you'll probably see some improvements. Assuming you have a 10gbps NIC and switches and CAT6a cabling for whatever autistic reason.


Again, you're simply retarded if you ACTUALLY think most of comcast's 1gbps customers would see increased speeds by using a dual 1gbps modem and requite 10gbps equipment from there (unless you're doing port aggregation the whole way in which case good luck)

It's a fantasy, and to pretend anything less isn't true gigabit is a further fantasy.

This isn't even to fucking mention i'd rather have 900/900mbps than fucking 1200mbps and garbage 42.35mbps upload.

>>61625060
500mb/50mb, unlimited, free wifi around city, some tv channels and phone, 19euro. Poland

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>>61626401
If a motherboard this cheap has it, then I think it's safe to say it's a mainstream feature.

>>61617606
use https, retard

>>61617669
I have 10.

>>61626453
How does it feel having narrowband internet?

>https://www.theverge.com/2015/1/29/7932653/fcc-changed-definition-broadband-25mbps

>>61626451
Fuck off you dumb faggot, jesus christ, yes, you can specifically buy that as a feature at MOST price points, but 9 out of 10 boards are still going to be Single NIC.

>>61626470
idk, enough for me

at least I've stopped consuming shit-tier content except 4chan

>>61626486
4chan is the shittiest tier of content.

>>61626493
well, we all need to be degenerates sometimes

>>61624880
interesting, so you can still inject data into https

the encryption protects requests and replies but there is nothing that stops additional data from being injected based on DNS rules?

>>61625387
>thinks cheap gigabit+ is privileged in 2017
oh the memes

>>61625391
>The same strain of people who kicked the Strasser brothers out of the Nazi Party and who ally with anarcho-capitalists are anti-capitalist

>>61626433
I fucking hate asymmetric Internet we get here. No real reason to limit it, unlike with previous technologies.
Anyway it's fucking nothing, Wrocław has 1/1 for 30USD. Sadly Warsaw is shit though.

>>61617606
>browsing 4chan without https
Have fun getting v& you cuck

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>>61617606

Don't worry. At least it's Free Software...

>americucks

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>>61617606
>Windows menu on the left

Can't you see this poor, overworked corporation is hurting and you're trying to take away the last bit of money they have left? Corporations are people too, stop being inhumane.

>>61622647

/pol/ has a plurality of political beliefs, not everyone is pro-capitalist there.

I unironically want Google to bring its fiber optic internet aka data collection uplink to every nook and cranny of this godforsaken country so IPSs are actually forced to compete like they should in a proper fucking capitalist system.

It would have the upside of creating a demand for "fast internet without the data collection" services too.

>>61617606
>chrome
>windows 10
>microsoft office
>most likely gmail

BOTNET OVERLOAD

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And this is why I will never cable internet. Also outages, outages everywhere (where I live anyway)

>>61617606
This is what you get for living somewhere where there are no human rights

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>>61628209
Not gonna happen as long as the local state governments keep sucking on the ISP cock instead of, you know, representing the needs of its constituents.

>>61628425
Perfect example
My city granted monopoly to uswest (now centurylink) for phone and MHC (now comcast) for cable back in the 70s which means theyou are now the only ISP options other than satellite...

>>61628603
Then demand the city install its own ISP or else.
>always ask for more than you'll get

>>61628623
>or else
or else what? You pack up and move? That's about the only option remaining.

>>61628654
There needs to be a Red Scare 2.0 that accuses all enablers of monopoly of being pro-communist and then flogged publicly in the town square.

>>61628623
Bahahahaha
One voice of 3.3 million. Seriously, no one cared BEFORE the legal weed.
At least the overall state of broadband here is in the top 10 for the usa. Can't complain much. Just another case of "if only"

>>61628712
The enablers are the fuck stick small town republicans who fucking sold their town out for a $20000 campaign contribution he probably didn't even need since his only competition has no chance to win an election in such a town.

>>61617755
libfreehttp.deb

>>61628730
I am sincerely sorry for your predicament and I hope you use this as a springboard towards activism.

If your town is small enough, it shouldn't take too many people to convince the town that the ISP monopoly is bad. Don't use words like "freedom" as most Americans don't give a shit about that anymore. Take a purely financial angle in your approach (needlessly high costs, stifling the local economy, killing the SMALL BUSINESS, etc) to get the angry retirees to align with your cause.

>>61625416
The contract you sign just states that you wave your right to that and that they can change the terms at any time without your consent. And then you agree because you require the service.

>>61629254
>wave
Stopped reading there.

>>61626273
>Exact same thing with health care where group of people is making billions every year thank to closed market and service overpriced few times.
literally a perfect description of Obamacare.

If the government just hired 500,000 doctors and built their own hospitals and supplied all their own equipment, it would cost less than what we pay now.

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>>61628103
wtf i love comcast now

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>>61617616
Right now, Cox customers are about to be hit with this bullshit too, but it wasn't in the contract.

They just added it all on their own and sent out emails to millions of people warning them that they were now subject to data caps with outrageous fees for going over them.

But they claim it's completely fine because only single digit percentages of users use that much data in a month! But even my fuckin grandma knows data usage is rising and that they won't up the data caps, so they're doing this now so they can start fucking us on prices when 4K streaming or whatever becomes normal.

Maybe by 2025 everyone will be blowing through 2 TB a month and Cox will still have the 1 TB data cap and you'll have to buy a bigger plan to get it upped to 1.5TB, then 2TB, etc.

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>>61629290
>If the government just hired 500,000 doctors and built their own hospitals and supplied all their own equipment
That's a really drawn-out way of saying that if government did its job we'd be better off as a society.

I'm going into a bit of a tangent here, but this is why I think our current government is illegitimate. Taxation is fine as long as the state provides me with the basic necessities that it agreed to provide me. Now, before anyone goes full retard with "hurr durr healthcare is not a necessity," let me remind you that the medical science in the US has reached a point where fixing broken bones should cost only the material required (plaster and bandages) and some labor surcharge for the nurse and as simple as going through a fucking drive-thru. Instead we have a situation where millions of Americans either let it heal unset like it's the cavemen era because they can't afford it or there are literally no hospitals within driving distance.

So what are we doing with all that money we're raking in by swindling the citizenry? Aircraft carriers that are stated to go into active service in less than two years that don't even have functional catapults or arresting wires. Useless jet fighters that can't even be deployed to desert climates without air-conditioned hangars. Bullshit ICBM interception system that can't even calculate parabolic trajectories correctly. "Tax breaks" aka cash gifts to companies that weren't paying taxes to begin with.

What exactly are we getting for the taxes that we pay out of our pockets? Our waters are becoming undrinkable. Our national defense is being consolidated down to a handful of botique, dysfunctional Made In Boeing hardware. We're not getting the medical care that we need. Our freedom of speech is being eroded.

This is merely yet another link in a long chain of government injustice sausage we're being forced to swallow. How many more of these are we going to be forced to swallow?

>>61617606
because comcast has billions of dollars to push for pro-netneutrality trash and you retards buy it up

>>61617606
can you opt out?

>>61617606
that happens when you have monopolies that no one can break up

>>61629531
>>61629574
does anyone ever wonder why massive corporations like cox and comcast are the ones pushing net neutrality the hardest?

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I don't know.

Do you actually know it's legal or do you just believe it because it's implied?

>>61617606
>chose metered option instead of unlimited
>chose to fight for poison-pill Net Neutrality instead of actual competition

This is the future you all chose.

>>61629531
>>61629608
>isp's are pushing net neutrality
Are amerisharts really this gullible? Do you get all of you news from twitter?

>>61629574
>no one can break up
If no one tries, it'll never happen
>bbut
No, you haven't tried, period, don't fucking give me that shit.

If Australia can do it, so can you.
You did it once already, remember Ma Bell.

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>>61629647
>This is the future you all chose.
No.

I admit we need solutions to make investors pump more money into infrastructure, but the current ideas will prevent exactly that.

It's only an attempt by already established ISPs to become even stronger and push competition out of the market, whilst that is what is being advertised.

>>61617606
Should have put a cap on your seeding you dumb fuck. You're not helping anyone and you're just hurting yourself.

>>61629695
Investors aren't the problem, the ability to actually enter the market is.
Google has no problem rolling out fibre from a capital point of view - but even they are having issues rolling out due to the government enabled monopolies.

It's actually quite hilarious to watch from the outside - US deniznes are so totally against any and all socialist ideals, yet they'll bend over backwards for ensure that corporate welfare continues unhindered.

>>61629723
not an argument

Go suck a dick, nigger

>>61624839
How? It just adds a fucking HTTP header.

>>61629668
In the US this is the case.

Consider that the USA has no competition in the broadband space, at all.
So to ensure freedom of information to the people you can
A. Prohibit the ISPs from molesting your data
B. Prohibit the ISPs from forming monopolies

If you choose option A, you get OP's situation - that's the end of it, NN doesn't enforce unlimited datacaps, just no 'funny business' from the ISP in how that datacap is spent.
Option B instead allows ISPs to do all sorts of stupid shit to your data, but it also allows for others to compete and if there is a niche wanting unrestricted, unfettered access - then a provider will exist to service them.

NN can and has been used to continue the current monopoly system by arguing that breakup of said monopolies isn't required, due to NN - so if you choose option A, you'll eventually end up with 100GB datacaps (that you can spend in whatever way you want!) and all ISPs owned by Cable companies.

>>61623099
i live in east ky and the best they offer anyone is 100gb a month. ATT on the otherhand has a much better plan and have infrastructure here as I was once a customer but now they have made a deal with the local provider imctv to not allow new subscribers so every is forced to use imctv and pay 200bucks a month just for shitty 1up and 10down. There is no other option.

>>61629843
Fuck off, (((ISP))) shill. Abolishing NN won't break up the monopolies.

>>61624243
>>61624940
what did he mean by this?

>>61629928
Smaller ISPs specifically oppose net neutrality and cite it was a barrier of entry.

>>61629928
>everyone who thinks differently to you is a shill
righto...

How is it that many other countries have better internet access, sans any bullshit limitations - without the need for Network Neutrality?
Why is it such a big deal for the United States only when the rest of the world does fine without it?

>>61629963
It's a financial barrier of entry because they can't sell their customers' browsing data for money. That's literally it.

>>61629996
NN doesn't prevent selling customers browsing data for money...

Do you even know what Network Neutrality is?

>>61629996
NN literally has nothing to do with selling data?

>>61629963
Where the fuck are you getting your news? That's literally the exact opposite of what's happening.

>https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/30-small-isps-urge-ajit-pai-to-preserve-title-ii-and-net-neutrality-rules/

I need to understand how can someone exceed 1tb data in a month...

>>61630260
Downloading a few things, watching Netflix.

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>>61630260
are you kidding?

As a single individual i can get 600gb+ just in youtube in a month.

Adding in my torrents easily puts me over 1TB

oh god finally Americans will be slowly cleansed from the _free_ internet

>>61630260
this desu, i never use that much data either
still feels good to not be cucked by isp, getting speeds i pay for and no datacaps

seriosu talk, is there a way to fix this? im thinking providing internet via the satellite so we dont have to deal with cable bullshit

still takes a lot of money tho

>>61631157
satellite would be shit for anything that require low latency (video chat, gaming, etc)

>>61631179

yea well you cant do anything about the cable that they set up themselves

to think about it again, didnt they receive huge sum of money before by the government to help them set up fibre cables? maybe we can use that to get the cable free

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>>61631218
The money they got for fiber was used. At least some of it.

As evidence of my own ISP

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>>61622706
>Be in wartime
>City is destroyed
>Troops come in, offering the only source of shelter in the entire region
>You are given a choice. Sign a contract to eat it, or be given no shelter.
>The contract's terms of service is that you must clean a soldier's ballsack with your tongue once a day
>"You agreed to it."

>>61626336
Dude
A terabyte of porn a month
You can't tell me you watch all of that, even at 4k

>>61617606
I think it's reasonable to set a cap. They do have limits they can broadcast. However, I think after a couple terabytes per month it should be just be given lower priority.

>>61631218
Yes you can.
Fight.

YOU PAID OVER ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS FOR A FIBRE NETWORK IN THE 90s
WHERE IS YOUR OPEN ACCESS FIBRE NETWORK?

Australia successfully fought SEVERAL TIMES so that open access would be given on the networks that the Australian Taxpayer had paid for-
- First in ~1993 when Optus was allowed to become a second private carrier
- Later in ~2001-2 when Tesltra was forced to open their last-mile DSL network to any ISP
- Then in ~05 we fought and won SSS/LSS (Line Sharing Service, so other ISPs could provide DSL via their own DSLAMS installed in Tesltra's exchanges (in TEBA space) on Tesltra's (The Australian Taxpayers...) Phone lines. (Different to ULL in that you still needed to pay for a Phone service)
- In ~06-07 we finally won ULL
- 07-08 NBN Construction also starts, a completely open access wholesale last-mile network, NBNCo doesn't not provide internet services, only last-mile connectivity to actual ISPs (RSPs as they're now known)

You can fight for open access too, you already paid for it - this is the key to winning, The Taxpayers already funded this.

>>61631113
600gb data from youtube anon?
Are aware of how much this is?

>>61631466
Not a whole lot?
4K/1440P@60fps video tends to eat a lot of data.
>why don't you just watch videos in lower quality?
Why?

>>61631498
yuuup.

Even just 1080p60 can eat up a decent chunk.

>>61617606
Burger problems only

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>>61625060
all the high speed internet in the world isn't going to save you from the hordes of "refugees" and muslims you're taking in.

>>61622647
/pol/ would argue the cartel comes from municipal/local govts deliberately making it difficult and expensive for anyone to lay new cable down (which is 100% true) and argue that getting rid of govt regulation would fix the ptoblem. There would be glorious cheap high speed fiber in ancapistan (but no roads of course)

>>61628425
>>61628603
>>61628623
Seriously this bullshit needs to end. I wish more people gave a shit about this and we're willing to vote their candidate out of office if they let this shit slide.

>>61631840

That wouldn't make a difference because the companies would just buy the next politician. Ultimately, the problem is with the companies.

>>61622647
>/pol/ is capitalist
Is it really like that now?

>>61631684
>56%
Or is it lower now? I can't remember, it's been a few days since I last checked.

>>61617606
Oh look, its this thread again

>>61617606
What are you complaining about? When you finish your orange juice do you bring back the empty carton to the store for a free refill?

>>61631894
If the people were willing to vote out candidates who do this shit then the next one would be gone too. This isn't practical at the federal/state level but at the municipal level it seems feasible to know when your aldermen/mayors are up to some shit

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>>61631958
>The Internet is a drainable resource

>>61617635
If he is just streaming 1080p youtube all day, he'll end up moving hundreds of GB. Install a few games on Steam (games are now 50+GB), and you've easily went over a TB.

He could also be casting videos, which also pushes bandwidth.

>>61630119
That's what shills do: they lie to get their way.
I wish there were some way to identify them and have them disappeared irl.

>>61631958
>implying that bandwidth is a non-perishable resource
Kill yourself, liberal.

>>61633412

it costs money every time you use it

>>61617606
As long as they can grease palms, they can do whatever they want. It's such bullshit.

>>61633885
the cost of electricity is negligible though. realistically every gigabit sent costs less than a single penny. Yet if you break 1TB with comcast they charge you $10 for every 50GB over.

That's 2000% increase simply because they can charge whatever they feel like, and they set that bandwidth cap low enough that SOME of their customers will hit it, and either pay $50 a month for unlimited, or occasionally they'll pay the $10 per 50GB over. And it's pure bullshit, there is simply no reason to charge that much besides they know people will pay it and they simply accept they have no real alternative ISP to go with.

>>61617606
tell me this is fucking fake, does comcast really inject banners

>>61617616
This, millennial special snowflakes think they can pirate endless anime and use our collective bandwidth.

Who the fuck has limited data?

>>61617645
>A business being able to choose how they operate is not an essential part of freedom

Marxist cucks need to get out.

>>61617606
If net neutrality is not protected these limitations will only become tighter. Just something to think about.

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>>61617606

> opfag
> 1024 GB/month

> be me
> 1MB for 4 cents

How the fuck is THIS LEGAL?