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AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 GB HBM2

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http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-reference-limited-edition-leaked/

>1080 performance
>reference card with dual 8 pin connectors
>aio option

I'm not hyped
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Even the pajeets shitting this board 24/7 won't buy this turd because ít's both slow and expensive.
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>wccftech
Into recycle bin
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>>61611821
Also
>$1200
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>>61611852
>1080 tier level performance
>slow

Ok i get this card is a disappointment for the price but cmon now
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>>61611821
on plebbit they were saying shit's going to be 1000 buckaroos

shit's doa
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>>61611862
>>61611874
This supposed leaked price rumor just keeps going up and up. First it was $800, now $1000. Next, $1200 maybe? You stupid dipshits realize it would cost as much or more than the Vega FE card? I swear you dumbasses just love sitting here playing telephone rumormill until your nuts fall off.
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>>61611865
wait for volta
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>>61612081
Wait for Navi
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>>61612148
nah
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Wait for $ActuallyNewArchitecture
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>>61612179
>$ActuallyNewArchitecture
Not gonna happen any time soon.
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>>61612195
So just wait? I've been on integrated graphics for 5 years.
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>>61612205
but why? i'm on a gtx670 because i don't game and 7nm is here soon.
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limited edition is sexy
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>>61612214
Because I don't game.
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Is it going to be priced competitively

How good is it for mining? :^)
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>>61612448
they tested vega FE on mining, it's a turd
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>>61611961
It was also $800 in sweden, which included at least 25% tax and increased shipping and then increase scandinavia costs. It's like $600 probably, which equates so between 1080 and ti performance.
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>poor volta
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>>61611821
>wccfshill
2 more days before the nvidiot btfo. 1080ti performance, a lot of shit are disable
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>>61614296
>the secret features are disabled
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>>61612081
>Volta
>sub 10% performance increase
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>>61612464
Good
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>>61611852
pajeets can't afford it in the first place
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>>61614296
>the typical delusional moronic AMD try hard fan

Go kys
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>>61611961
AMD themselves were marketing the card as Vega + Freesync being $200 cheaper than 1080 + G-sync. However the Freesync monitor in question was $500 cheaper than the G-sync one, which means that Vega is 1080 + $200. That puts it around 7-800 depending on model.

There was also a Swedish site mentioning $800 (note it was dollars, not euro, so not the European price), and iirc a German site was taking preorders for $1100.
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>>61615214
Selling a gaming card for $200 less than the prosumer version doesn't make any sense to me. This math sounds pretty fucked.
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>>61615445
As long as I can watch my 4K 10 bit chinese cartoons using Open source drivers, I'm OK with that.
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>>61616137
This, desu senpai.
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>be me
>waiting for vega for months now, thinking its gonna be the next big thing coming from AMD
>tfw polaris dropped
>turd card
>Vega FE dropped
>overpriced 1060
>lose hope
>prices are appearing for Vega
>its an expensive card (also turd, barely can get to 1080 levels, let alone 1080 Ti)
>gone ahead and just ordered a 849.99 euro 1080 Ti and be done with the waiting for atleast another 4 years
this was the most useless wait ever
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>>61611821
I told you
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proper info is actually coming out soon, right?
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>>61617432
Reveal/launch is Monday. If you survive the weekend, you'll have successfully waited for Vega.
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There will be at least 3 variants. 1070 level. 1080 level and 1080Ti level with water cooler. Plus the special edition silver version with LED.
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61617168
Your bait is so shit
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It's a 1070 with 1080 ti power consumption.
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>>61617543
>1080Ti level with water cooler
You are so funny
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>>61617168
>be amd
>hold off on releasing any new tech
>lets its competition hold a monopoly
>watch as prices double while performance stagnates (1-2% increase in niche situations year over year gains)
>release something that's competitive and drastically overpriced by the standards previously held before collusion agreement
>morons think it's somehow a good deal because the previous monopoly owner was selling things so stupidly overpriced
don't forget, they're taking your money then investing in infrastructure and hiring in other countries while your country still has no jerbs.
wew, sure is great to be apart of the greatest generation in america. the death of free speech, and the economy, all while retards riot over the most ludacris things. (like someone pointing a gun at a cop then being killed, demanding parades for your absurd and degenerate fetishes etc)
wew, sure am glad i was brought into this existance.
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>>61617543
>1080Ti level with water cooler
(you)
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>>61617682
>>61617647
He's right though...
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>>61611821
Wait for Navi
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cant wait for monday when I can look back and think "yea it was worth the wait"
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>>61611821
w-wait for drivers.
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Empire or Greenskins?
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>>61617907
fuck the muties
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>>61614296
>300w already with lot of shit disabled

Damn, then if they enable "that" then it would be like AVX-512 on a air cooled overclocked S kylake-X housefire tier.
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>>61618128
yeah, i'm sure that activating the proper power/voltage gating would make it run hotter
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I think AMD is gonna bite the bullet and sell em for $399.99 or even $349.99 MSRP.

If they don't it's dead as fuck though.
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>>61618268
I'd buy it fo sho.
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>>61617543
Vega 11 is replacing polaris. 3 variants of vega 10 is not actually 3 chips. There are 2 same full chips water cooled and air cooled, and a cut down chip.
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>2x8pin on a reference board
>exactly the same as having 4 fucking 6pins

What the fuck is AMD doing?
I thought they finally did it with Ryzen, and they could've led the mobile renaissance powered by Ryzen+Vega <55W APUs.
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>>61611821

8GB high bandwitdh cache = 80GB GDDR5X you autist mongoloid
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greedy pajeets were the underdog for years got 1 good PR with ryzen 6/7 and now showing their true colours
way to lose fan base
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>>61611961
If the price analysis of their recent side-by-side demo is correct then the card will have MSRP of $200 above a 1080 (founders edition??), it will cost about $850

And that's obscenely not worth it.
It needs to be closer to 1080Ti than the 1080 for that cost and power to make sense
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Goddamn this flamewar is fucking cancerous.

Go back to /v/ you degenerate /v/ermin
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When is Nvidia going to drop their new cards? The 1060 equivalent in the new lineup will probably ship with 8GB and compete with the 1070 etc.
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test
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>>61618903
$850 for reference makes no sense either even if it's 1080ti level 1:1

it's going to be 350-400-600.
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>>61618950
>When is Nvidia going to drop their new cards?
But why?
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>>61618736
It's fucking 4096 ALU.
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>>61619044
Because they will obviously be better than AMD's offering (albeit more expensive) so the timing of when they come out will be a factor in whether to purchase a Vega GPU or not.
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>>61619060
But Vega is DOA
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>>61619060
q2 2018
being optimistic late q1, but they never launch anything that time frame
Volta is not ready.
nvidia can't lower their prices either right now
lower one and it will cannibalize anything below it in the range

AMD is in favorable position market wise, all they need is product
optimism for arch from AMD is present, they will pull another 970 just like nvidia did
the only move that makes sense
anything else and vega is DOA
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>>61619058
>shit power efficiency is okay because we've got lots of power
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>>61619101
same number of ALU from nvidia draws 450w fyi
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>>61612503
>It was also $800 in sweden, which included at least 25% tax
No, the price started at USD$850 plus tax, which takes it above USD$1000.
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>300w-375w
>300w even for the 3548sp version

this is ridiculous, vega is a mess
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When the fuck will Lisa fire that fucking Pajeet in charge of GPU department?
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>>61617714
In pricing terms maybe. But I doubt removing the thermal bottleneck (if the watercooler even accomplishes that) would cause the card to go from 1080 to 1080Ti performance.
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>>61619219
>put poojets in charge of cpu development
get bulldozer
>put chief poojet in charge of gpu development
get a 400 w abomination
Really makes you think
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>>61619418
What if it did though? What if Vega had some weird thing where the only limit was how cold it was?
Can you imagine the butthurt?
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>>61611865
Yes, when it costs the same as a 1080 ti and uses more power. There's literally no good reason to buy this turd.
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>>61619492
>put chief poojet in charge of gpu development
Get a nearly-dead JHH.
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>>61619590
>"costs the same as a 1080 Ti"
Woah was this confirmed? If so then RTG is BTFO
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>>61619160
>MRW I believed AMD's lies and actually waited until June to buy a 1080 Ti
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>>61619643
No it hasn't, just rumors.
It's all speculation now, wait till its revealed.
If its 1080 performance and costs more just buy a 1080,not really that hard of a decision.
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>>61619160
At least you won't need a separate space heater with one of these.
Summers are going to be hell, though.
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>>61611821
Oh wow it's exactly like every non AMD fanboy said on this forum for the last months.

What a surprise
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>>61619660
The 2050ti will have 1070 levels of performance
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>>61619160
Is this really a new architecture or is it just an overclocked Fury X?
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>>61619809
Have a wild guess.
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>>61619809
At this point probably
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>>61619856
It's unfortunate amd just can't compete with their high iq nvidia counterparts. Aryan + chink vs poo, really isn't that difficult to grasp.
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>>61619886
>nvidia
>aryan
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>>61619799
I think it would be GTX 1150ti
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>>61619577

>AMDelusions
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>>61619886
>chinkshit
>aryan
?
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SIGGRAPH is tomorrow, so waiting a maximum of 48hrs depending on timezone to find out how good or bad VEG is is nothing compared to the endless shit stirring WCCFtech and B&C have been doing.

WCCFtech say vega is shit, B&C claim AMD is sandbagging. Both a plausible.
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>>61620482
>dat edit
wew
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Post yfw /g/ made you fall for the Freesync meme
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>>61620710
Why won't Nvidia add Freesync support to their drivers? It would remove the last reason for people to buy AMD.
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>>61620723
Because they like goys forking over for that gsync tax. Soon it will be even worse if AMD doesnt get their heads out the ass.
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>>61611821

I'll buy it if it's priced right. Because my Freesync monitor. But I'm fully prepared to go nvidia if amd prices it at the 1080ti level as rumor is saying.

All amd had to do was create a decent card with gddr5x and all would have been great. But no they had to go full retard with hbm and hbc.
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>>61615214

Thats what I'm worried about. Seriously Fuck amd if they drop the ball on this one. They have had since 290x to come up with a decent product.
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>>61611852
If it's cheap and the performance is good enough I might buy it.
I can probably get $200 for my 290X 8GB from miners anyhow.
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https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Liquid-Cooled-Review

>As expected, the additional power target of 25% moves the card to 440 watts of directly measured power…ouch!

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES 300-350W, 440W OVERCLOCK
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Fallout New VEGA

A holocaust in the making
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>>61611961
>>61615214
The FreeSync demo seemed to put it at 1080 prices (since the demo systems were only $300 price difference, with $300 of that being G-sync tax)
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>>61621257
what if monitor is not included?
because 1080FE is freaking 700 right now
I don't think PR guys went beyond amazon like me clicking fir couple links
$400 it is?
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>>61621296
1080 is $499 since price cut

1080 Ti is $699
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>>61621296
AMD stated it was the whole system price.
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>>61621306
it's DOA then

>>61621304
recommended price, sure
real price is 700
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It's a chip which was designed to pander to professional usage.

Normal consumers will have to pay a hefty price and way more power consumption compared to Nvidia cards.
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>>61621330
If you were smart, you could have gotten a GTX1080 for 440€ a few months ago.

Pretty dope
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>>61621304
wait, gsync tax is $200 right?
1080 is rec price $499
meaning vega going to be $399?
hm? kind of not bad?
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if they wanted to match 1080ti performance with vega then pic related is how many power pins it will require.
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>>61621371
huh, I actually wouldn't mind triple slot cooler if it would make it quieter than what we get now.
only mitx fags will get upset
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>>61611821
>AMD releases it at $400
>You still need to buy a new PSU and fire extinguisher on top
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>>61621380
>3 slots
We need to go bigger.
5 Slots, then we can use 80mm fans and have the heatsink setup like a wind tunnel.
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>>61621395
>Implying
I needed this hardy 1000w beast for both Fermi and Hawaii.
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>>61621371
Actually that probably would equal 1080ti performance in DX12...
Just using many, many more watts to do so.
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>>61621395
2x Vega + Core i9 @4.7ghz - The Holocaust
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>>61620482
>posts meme that is true for nvidiots
you're gonna post a fire one next?
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>>61619418
Not implying 1080ti performance - BUT the Watercooled FE cards were limited to 70c where the Air cooled cards were limited to 90c.

Given custom watercooling of the Air version, you should be able to eke more performance out (at the cost of even more power consumption!)t
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>>61621400

You rang?
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If AMD don't unveil Vega RX for general customers at the very start of the event on the 30th, I think i'll have to kill someone.
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>>61621918
BIOS for custom models are available 2. August, there is no way getting a custom Vega model before mid august
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>>61620583
They gotta get in that one last aspie arm flap for old time's sake. Until the next big launch, that is.
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>>61619113
except AMD's cores are shit?
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>>61619160
>wccfturd
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>>61611821
What is the price? If it costs less than GTX1070 then Im hyped, if it's as expensive then I give 0 fucks.
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>>61622572
Except they aren't and they are can do six full instruction per cycle, while Intel still can't do more than two.
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>>61622617
What?
Zen is 5-wide, Core is 4-wide.
Decode is not everything.
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>>61622594
We still don't know. The launch is tomorrow. These threads are as pointless right now as they'll ever be.
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>>61622674

>Core is 4-wide.

Only on paper.
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>>61622765
No, it's 4-wide since Conroe.
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>>61622594
considering 1070 is $470 right now won't be that hard to beat
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>>61615245
It makes sense because all GPUs are fucked up in pricing nowadays. 570/580 goes for double its price due to miners, 1070/1080/ti goes for 1-200$ higher than MSRP at minimum because they really have no competition, and the highest end cards go for $1000+.

AMD just wants to ride that train.
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>>61621296
>what if monitor is not included?

They stated that the full setup was $200 cheaper for the AMD side.

Then it was pointed out that the AMD version used a $500 cheaper monitor.
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>>61622916
is this a quiz now?
this math getting more retarded day after day

when is the stream from siggraph? there is going to be a stream right? This is just silly now.
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>>61622325
I don't mind it being a paper launch, I just think they are idiots if they delay it this long and then try to have a build up over 3 days or whatever before revealing all details and performance.
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How are the trolls ever saying amd is bankrupt when their gpus are selling for twice the msrp. It sucks for everyone wanting a good price to performance card, myself included but when you can sell a million cards for 400 making 100 profit on each or sell 700000 cards for 600 making 300 profit on each what are you going to choose.

I have no idea of these numbers it's just an example
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>>61622868
Doubt it.
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>>61623208
AMD doesn't see the profit from that idiot they just sell the chips.
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>>61622794
>Dollaroonies
it's about 550Euros here.
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>>61623208
stores make that profit, amd takes normal margins
they sold whole volume produced though, it's a good thing
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When was the last time AMD had made a good GPU architecture? No really, ever since they acquired ATi they have been BTFO by NVidia every single generation. Pls Vega don't disappoint.
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>>61623266
Tahiti was stellar, Hawaii was good and aged great, Polaris was decent.
GPUs are not profitable.
It's easier and more profitable to convert another cloud provider to EPYC.
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>>61623266
HD4xxx-HD7xxx were all great and better than nVidia counterparts for cheaper
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>>61623273

What /g/ doesn't realise is even during bulldozer's reign it was (and still is) the cpu side of the business that funds the radeon group.
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>>61623293
Yes, fuck, Semi-Custom division brought much more money than consumer GPUs ever did.
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>>61623273
Forgot about Tahiti, Hawaii was still beaten and Polaris has no high-end card.
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>>61623284
see
>>61623323
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>>61611821
LMAO poorfag
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>>61621250
O no I spent 3 cents on electricity this month instead of 2. I am surely bankrupt!
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>>61623422
> Got a bigger case to fit my Vega GPU
> Got a shitload of fans to cope with the additional heat
> Got a water cooler to cool it some more
> Had to reduce my OC because shit got too hot
> Upgraded PSU to a 2KW model to support Vega
> Paid $300 extra dollars in the GPU alone to have worse performance than a 1080ti
> "LOL NVIDIA SHILLS COMPLAINING ABOUT TEH ELECTRICITY BILL"

AYYMDfags reasoning in a nutshell.
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>>61623500
>He just typed all that dumb unrealistic strawman shit out
Sad!
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>>61623273
>tfw still use my 6yr old 300euros 7970
>can still run modern games just fine (bf1 and andromeda on high)
>tfw if this was tahiti era, a 1080Ti card would cost only 400euros
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>>61623247
True, but in determining new pricing that is what they consider. So all this crying about high pricing rumors is likely true for the first while, so now that we finally have waited we can wait some more for the price cut
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>>61623603
Me too, I even sidegraded to a 280x three years ago after moving overseas not liking the offerings at the time. I need something for VR but the 280x is still barely good enough that I can wait
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>>61623603
>7970
>lasting 6 years

haha nice try
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>>61622575
The vega fe draw more than 375w...
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>>61611865
>Ok i get this card is a disappointment for the price
Literally the only metric that counts
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>>61623603
>30 fps is fine!
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>yfw dual Vega uses Infinity Fabric to connect the two dies
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>>61624404
>implying the human eye can see past 24 fps
do we really need this discussion
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>tfw been meaning to upgrade for ages
>was waiting for Zen and Vega

>computer a mix of hardware ranging from eight year old PSU to five year old i5 3570k and three year old GTX770
>Cheap Assrock MB fried eight DDR3 1600 sticks in five years
>had to switch GTX770 PCIE slot because main one is somehow unstable and keeps crashing my computer

>computer stable and working good for past year, feelz like I have time to upgrade

>Zen kinda disapointing and I play mostly old CPU bound games that are poorly parallelised

>Vega looks like it's not gonna be suited for me either, too expensive and I have many ATI cards which all turned to be a disapointment

At this point I'm waiting for CoffeeLake and maybe Volta, although a Pascal GTX1070 should be good enough for me but...

>tfw computer has been crashing, restarting randomly for the past week out of nowhere, sometimes during boot, on desktop, sometimes no problem for long gaming session until random crash while I transfer file from seedbox


I dunno with its another corrupted memory problem, although I did scan and it showed nothing or if its PSU that is dying.

This is my only computer. Please don't die...
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>>61624840
>Zen kinda disappointing and I play mostly old CPU bound games that are poorly parallelised

What old games need more than 3GHz of single core anyways?
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>>61624840
>Zen kinda disapointing and I play mostly old CPU bound games that are poorly parallelised
So you'll get 300 FPS instead of 500 FPS? How does that matter?
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>>61624891

ArmA 3, any game on Unreal Engine 3 or 4 or Unity.

Emulators as well like Dolphin or Cemu.

Obviously I'm not talking about CSGO.
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>>61624952
Dolphin can run on a potato these days. CEmu is alpha quality but I think the only game that really needs high clockspeed is BotW.
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>>61624952

>Arma3
>old games

Okay see when you say "old games" you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>61624952
>Unreal Engine 3 or 4 or Unity.
works better than on my old i7 2600 that I know for sure
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>>61624995
Maybe he's underage
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>>61624995

Dude just stfu...

I've been playing the series since 2k1, that's old tech with some nail polish. So shut your trap.
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>>61625014

29, how old are you big buy?

Obviously I'm not thinking of upgrading wondering if I'm gonna run Quake or not...

Arma 3 is four year old, but that engine goes a long way back and it's single threaded as well as very much CPU bound... Which is why Zen barely manage 60 fps on it while a 7700k does 90 frames second.
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>>61614296
>make a ton of said features on chip
>somehow its broken or they cant proper code drivers that manage to work

Nice. Finest AMD engineering here.
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>>61625081
They're going to reveal the finished drivers at SIGGraph and BTFO everyone including the attendees.
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>>61624992

>the only game that really needs high clockspeed is BotW

Which is the only switch game worth the trouble tbw.
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>>61617647
Bleu bleu l'amour est bleu
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>>61614296

Are they going to stream a conference? Can't wait for all the crashes, cringe and uncomfortable moments... The last two gave me chills.
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>>61611821
possibly beats it on price or power tho, so if that's the case it will be compelling to me
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>>61625136
No stream this time.
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>>61625097
AMD
Another Major Dream
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>>61625148
will we get real time coverage from anadtech like on the EPYC launch?
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Don't forget to wear gloves and wipe the card before you install it. You wouldn't want to catch something.
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>>61619690
Sure and pay $700 for an adaptive sync 1440/144 monitor instead of $300. As long as its with in $150 of a 1080 I'm selling my 980ti and getting it
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where is my 2560sp @ 1800mhz small vega?!
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>>61611865
you realize 1080 have been out for more than a year right? In couple of months volta will be out m8
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>>61625210
Idk why they don't just throw some more compute units on Polaris and call it a day
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>>61625214
>couple of months volta will be out
AMD hype infecting novidya now?
>>
>>61625214

Hopefully the GTX770 will get a nice discount for christmas. That's all I care about.
>>
>4790K for CPU, no real point in upgrading
>Sold 970 for purchase price to buy dad a new laptop
>Want to go for Vega and get a Freesync monitor but will wait for actual reviews before deciding like a rational person

I think RX Vega will be OK. Vega FE has 2x the memory and is a "founder's edition" "prosumer" so obviously it costs more. There are also multiple variants at several different price points. I'm thinking 1070, 1080, and 1080+ (maybe Ti) levels here, priced competitively. Poolaris is obviously 1060 competitors and below.

Also did you guys know that Raja literally means king? Raja Koduri is the head honcho behind Wega. We wuz kangz in the GPU bidness n shit.

Also Navi=Natus Vincere=Born to win
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>>61625201
thank you, anon.
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>>61623603
>tfw im in the same boat except i bought mine a year old used for 200 usd

why is the 7970 so ok if you don't mind settling for high/med settings for 60fps?
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>>61625201
Why did someone set a video card on top of a bunch of oddly-assorted turds?
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M O R E
T H A N
1 0 0 0
D O L L A R S

IT FUCKING HURTS
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>>61625753
Where is the price? The 14099 and 15999? What currency is this?
>>
>>61625776
South african Rand. And no, I don't live in that hellhole.
>>
>>61624992
Sheeit, you can do BotW on a PC? Is it actually playable? I have no interest in buying a switch, but wouldn't mind playing it if it's a decent experience and not too glitchy.
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>>61625807
>$1228.454

This miscarriage is so catastrophic it's going to kill the mother too. AMD's GPU division is done. Fire the lot and close up shop.
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>>61625906
>AMD's GPU division is done. Fire the lot and close up shop.
Yeah boiiiiiiiiii.
Lets kill out iGPUs!
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>>61625933
>being happy nvidia gets the monopoly
Don't you understand basic economics anon? Nvidia's jew level will go through the roof when AMDs GPU division is gone.
>>
>>61625933
>letting those incompetent fucks anywhere near Ryzen

No. AMD's got a good thing going with Ryzen. If their GPU team gets their hands on it that will be fucking ruined. Let the Ryzen team take a stab at iGPU by themselves.
>>
>>61625968
nVidia monopoly is everything gaymen crowd wanted.
What's wrong with it?
>>
>>61625974
Are you fucking retarded?
Please i beg you kill yourself.
>>
>>61626020
>t. Pajeet Vardaniya Priyansh
>>
>>61626074
t. кoнчeглoт caмoгo Хyeнгa
>>
>>61625753
>>61625906
>UHMUHGUD AMD IS GONNA SELL RX VEGA FOR MORE THAN THE PROSUMER CARD
>I 100% BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE I AM AN AUTISTIC SPAZLORD THAT LOVES FLAPPING MY ASPIE ARMS
>AMDED AMDONE AMBTFO AMBANKRUPT AMSTREETSHITTER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDuAugAykcc
>>
>>61626149
>>61626087

Wew we got some salty Poo today.
>>
>>61626238
t. Cпepмoглoт caмoгo Хyaнгa
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>>61626238
Only one more day to histrionically blubber about how doomed AMD is. Better make the best of it.
>>
>>61625893

They did huge improvements, I have a i5 3570K a gtx770 and just 8GB DDR3 rame and it runs alright on Cemu 1.8.2B with Cemu Hook.

it runs kinda bad until the CEMU builds up the shader cache, so you get a lot of stuttering in the beginning but after a few hours it's fine around 30fps which is better than I expected from my computer.
>>
>>61626149
>ITS NOT PROSUMER WHO CARES LOL
This wouldn't be an issue if it was actually better than what nvidia has to offer.
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>>61626327
Hmm, I have a 6700k and a 7950, so I think it'll run well enough for me. Thanks, anon.

I haven't really kept up with this stuff, but I thought a console release being emulated this soon is unheard of nowadays?
>>
>>61625975
the 1180Ti will cost half your kidney
i remember a time where x70 card where at 350 buck now it's 400+
>>
>>61626372
Do you really think i am EVER going to buy nVidia GPU? I don't need new toys.
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>>61626149

People said Zen would save AMD and yet it's market share is still dropping according to Steam hardware survey... Meanwhile Intel doubles up on profit...

Vega is bound to be disapointing, Pascal has been here for a year and everyone just waiting for Volta not Vega...
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>>61625163
kek
>>
>>61626389
2/10 post.
>>
>>61626388
but it's not just about you ,buddy
>>
>>61626416
But i don't care about (man)childer getting fucked silly by leather jacket man.
>>
>>61626389
intel's monopoly days are counted down amigo
>>
>>61626389
>muh steeeeeeeem
Every fucking time.
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>>61626355

They are getting a shitload of cash from it thank to their pantreon so I guess they are motivated. However the Switch is based on the Tegra soc which is probably conventional enough to speed things up for them.
>>
>>61626409
>>61626441
>>61626467

Stay in denial kiddos. I'll enjoy my CoffeeLake I7 8800K and Volta 2070 GTX while you all scrub the floor with your cheap calculators.
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>>61626617
1/10 post you meantioned bintel.
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>>61626635
>bintel

>threadripper
>lmao4dies
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>>61626617
None of those are coming out until the middle of next year at the earliest.
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>>61626617
>while you all scrub the floor with your cheap calculators
Ironically that's where all the Steam numbers are coming from for Intel. Dirt cheap craptops running dual cores with Intel integrated trash.
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>>61611865
You'd have to be a literal retard to buy this crap over a 1080 Ti. The performance is better, you get 11 GB instead of 8 and not only that, you get CUDA.

Even the 1080 is more worth it seeing as the card is as good at overclocking as the ryzen CPU series.

Holy shit, Ryzen is Amazing but AMD literally knew how to shoot themselves in the heart this time.
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>>61619160
>375W
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkyhvCdJ_vM
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>>61621250
>the comment section with amdrones
priceless
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>>61619160
>>61619718
>>61626801
>Watercooled has same TDP as Vega FE
>Air version somehow uses more watts than Vega FE air version did
>Actually believing this horseshit
>Actually taking WCCFturd seriously

You're all blithering retards. Real info is coming out in one fucking day.
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>>61619160
>375W
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>>61622868
i literally just bought an oc'd 1080 ti for 700
there is 0 chance vega will compete with that
>>
>>61626859
No stream. We confirmed for full paper launch
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>>61626888
will we have any website doing real time coverage like we had with EPYC launch?
>>
>>61626859
yes vega beats 1080Ti at 150W for $400
beleive it
>>
>>61626906
Just watch a street cam stream from Mumbai
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>>61626954
Never said that but these supposed leaks are making it look like it runs hotter and is even more expensive than Vega FE which makes them nothing more than fap material for NVidia shitposters and retards who want to see AMD fail because they're dumber than a sack of bricks.
>>
Imagine if they put all their effort into Vega instead of Ryzen.

AMD CPU's are 6 year old performance at a lower price and lower power usage
AMD GPU's are 1 year old performance at same price and higher power usage

We could have had GPU's with 2022 performance and power usage
>>
>>61626859
It's all from that total board power leak from a while ago, which pretty much just adds up which power cables go into a card and call it that, the very same chart has the tdp at 225w and 275w.

For some reason now two 8pins is a terrible thing despite every 1080ti having the same delivery and many 1080s. Plus it stops the card drawing any watts through the motherboard and we all know how delicate motherboards are when used to deliver electricity, x299 not withstanding.
>>
>>61626954
You're delusional
>>
>>61625753
before or after taxes?
>>
>>61626859
>I-It's all fake
grow up
>>
>>61627154
I don't know how south african tax works so no clue.
>>
AFAIU (prolly bullshitting), HBM is much better than GDDR5 for high bandwidth stuff... aka, 4k and shit
>>
>>61627315

HBM is better than GGDR5 for bandwidth per stack. The reason itsn ot a massive factor in performance is you are still ALU limited in current computing trends at high resolution right now.

What HBM is for is avoiding nuclear-clocked GDDR5 while providing high(er) density along with bandwidth for compute related throughput. Its why Nvidia puts HBM on their srs bsns cards and sticks to GDDR on their GTX cards (i.e toys). Fiji is an FP32 monster and HBM help facilitate that.
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Doesn't sound like they got a lot of confidence in their product.
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>>61627640
there was no livestream on EPYC too
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>>61627640
It's SIGGRAPH.
II hope Cutress will do a text livestream.
>>
>AMD missed Computex 2017 and like a month later FE rolls out with appalling performance
>no Vega livestream and some say it's because SIGGRAPH is for professionals
>AIB partners receiving final BIOS at early August but horrible pricings are already leaked
I just hope someone brave enough will break the NDA to give me a Final Verdict so that I can be free from the Endless Wait.
>>
>>61627166
You'd believe anything if it shat on AMD. Kill yourself.
>>
>>61628190
>You'd believe anything if it makes AMD look good. Kill yourself.
ftfy
>>
>>61628298
Jump off a fucking cliff already.
>>
>>61628310
>being emotionlly attatched to a corporation
wew
>>
>>61628359
>jerking off to the thought of a corporation failing
wew
>>
>>61628380
>the life of amdrone
>>
>>61611855

But they were "based" 4 times this month when they talked positively about AMD products
>>
>>61628397
>oh god yes I want AMD to fail so JHH can shove his azn pecker up my ass for all eternity yes JHH give me more memes gives me more 3.5's i want to pay the goysync tax all day uhhhhhnnnnnnn
>>
>>61628423
>giving amd free pass on their fuck ups because muh jews
kys
>>
>>61628422
All they do is reprint baseless rumors and "leaks" that are obviously fake. They posted fake Threadripper Geekbench scores twice for fucks sake.
>>
>>61626702

>and not only that, you get CUDA.

Do you seriously think the retards who create these threads use a single piece of software with CUDA acceleration? They're reject /v/tards all the way down.
>>
>>61628434
>beliving stupid shit like "RX vega TDP > FE vega TDP" and "RX vega price > FE vega price" because it gets your anti-AMD erection rock hard

You literally, not figuratively, literally masturbate to the idea of AMD failing.
>>
>>61628448
GPU acceleration is beyond niche.
GPUs are mainly toys for (man)children.
>>
>>61628456
>You literally, not figuratively, literally masturbate to the idea of Intel/nvidia failing.
>>
>>61628487
Kindergarten tier comebacks, impressive. Someone should draw a picture of WCCFtech shitting into your mouth while you jack off furiously. The shit can have "rumors" written on it.
>>
>>61628521
>no rebuttal
The whole board is flooded with amdtard wojacs and spam pasta 24/7. It's been especially bad the last year. Fucking kill yourself you retarded nigger piece of shit with down syndrome.
>>>/r/amd
>>
>>61628582
You'd have to be pretty blind not to see 99% of the time it's anti-AMD shitposters claiming AMD is shit, doomed, Ryzen is crap because muh 20 extra FPS in GTA V, etc.
>>
>>61611821
>Perfromance equal to 1080
>Cost $100 less than 1080
>Elicricity costs $25-$50 more a year over 1080
Why would anyone buy this over volta in 2 months?
>>
>>61628636
Consumer "Volta" is Q2 2018 at best.
>>
>>61621493
post temps please
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>>61627640
>wait for it
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>>61621493
T H I C C
H
I
C
C
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>>61624147
a 7850 can run games today decently as long as they don't require VRAM beyond 2GB. You don't need to run everything at ultra 4xMSAA 8k in order to enjoy it.
>>
>>61627640
>^DS
To the power of Designated Shitting?
>>
>>61625059
Yeah, games like that are why I cannot go zen, my over clicked 4th gen i5 beats it in single thread.
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>>61626859
H O U S E F I R E
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>>61628733
here is 2 shekels for the effort
>>
>>61628636
You benchmark 6 hours a day, 7 days a week for 365 day a year?
That or your electricity is bloody expensive.
>>
>>61628791
>Links Vega FE results
You have brain damage.
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>>61628683

Take note of the resolution.
>>
>>61628864
>>61627011

The RX version run at 1630 MHz, the FE at 1600 MHz. If you think the TDP will be lower, you are crazy.
>>
GTX 1080 is exactly the performance I'm intersted in.
The price is still a big question mark, though.

I don't care too much about power usage.
>>
>>61628909
noice temps. Can you post the exact heatsink setup? I might do it with my GPU sometime in the future. I don't feel comfortable with watercooling.
>>
>>61628920
The RX version run at 8GB, the FE at 16GB
You get the idea
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>>61629026
>now HBMeme draw a lot power
>>
>>61629026
HBM2 draws almost no power retard.
>>
>>61629026
Like the 32 GiB firepro version will draw 400w...
>>
>>61628920
kys
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2990-vega-frontier-edition-undervolt-benchmarks-improve-performance
>>
So, can someone give me a TL;DR of this rx Vega gaming card? From what I'm reading it doesn't perform much better than a reference non TI 1080 and uses a lot of power. Is this the basic consensus?
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>>61629135
We don't know ANYTHING about it besides the ref looking neat as fug.
>>
>>61629134
And what is the clock?
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>>61629013

I don't have a picture of my exact setup but here is a picture from a review of the cooler. My advice? Get some good PWM fans and a 4pin to gpu fan header connection (check your fan header amperage yo) and run it as a complete kit.
>>
>>61629148
That's the limited edition btw, normal ref is the one op posted.
>>
>>61629148
Well, we know it has two 8 pin power connectors, which doesn't bode well for the power consumption

Not even an FE 1080ti has that, although some custom ones do
>>
>>61629201
link me to the review senpai
>>
>>61629148
>amd wants the macfag audience
>>
>>61629148
I see. Whelp hopefully sapphire releases a nitro-X version like they did with the original Fury. That and prices had better come down. If AMD thinks people are going to pay near $800 for this rx Vega when their professional card with double the ram isn't much more money, they're out of their minds.

At that point, I'll just buy an EVGA 1080ti.
>>
>>61629222

www.google.com

The raijintek morpheus is well reviewed and supports nearly every gpu under the sun.
>>
>>61621256
upvoted.
>>
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>>61629298
arigato
>>
>>61629175
1600 mhz at 1090mv. pulls 280 watts.
>>
>>61629287
>At that point, I'll just buy an EVGA 1080ti.
And it'll still be better than the Vega FE.
>>
>>61625228
we don't even need to change the general.
Wait for volta: /w4v/
Wait for nvidia: /w4n/
>>
>300-375w TDP
>blower
>>
>>61629376
You spelled 400 watts wrong
>>
>>61629775
>Finally, our undervolted line emerges: The blue line represents an undervolt of -110mv, dropping us from 1200mv to 1090mv. Current is now 23A, for a power consumption of about 283W at the PCIe cables.
kill yourself.
>>
>>61628811

He's right though. Ryzen performs terribly on Arma3, although to be fair Arma3 is both hungry for single thread frequency and memory speed.
>>
>>61629901
how you do keep fucking up?
say it after me, 400 watts
>>
>>61630312
Not anymore, advanced launcher settings allow you to make use of the rest of your cores when you boot through 64 bit mode

Finally an Arma game that uses more than 1 cores
>>
>1080 performance
Lol try 1070
>>
>>61630317
kill yourself.
>>
>>61630328

>muh 64 bit

Wow christ you're stupid...

It's only using one thread at a time. It'll use more than one core but not in parallel...

You could always set those commands even in Arma2 btw...
>>
>>61629359
also, if you don't want to bother with custom fans and headers you can always get Arctic Cooling Accelero cooler. Either Twin Turbo II or Extreme III. Don't get TTIII or Extreme IV because they come with shitty VRM and memory cooling solutions (some shitty thermal pad instead of proper set of heatsinks and thermal glue found in TT2 or EIII).
I've got a twin turbo cooling my bios modded 980Ti (pulling 350W) and the highest temp is like 70C on max load.
>>
>>61630312
well yes but for the other 99.999% of the games Ryzen offers superior stutter free performance.
>>
>>61630397
That is actually nice. My GTX 970 with Gigabyte memforce x3 cooler goes up to 84 degrees under max load even with full fan speed and a noctua exhaust fan in the case going at 2800 RPM. It is very frustrating to be honest. i suspect that the thermal paste has gone to shit but i dont' know .
>>
>>61630372
FOUR HUNDRED WATTS
>>
>>61630454
kys
>>
>>61619799
nah more like 1060 levels.
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>>61630312
The best solution is to not play autistic tacticool wannabe simulators based on engines that haven't changed a bit in half a fucking decade.
>>
>>61629775
>>61630317
>>61630333
>>61630454
Kill yourself.
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>>61630451
first just try to take it apart and clean the fins of the filth in between. should help a lot.
if doesn't work, then really consider the twin turbo, it's alright for the price.
also looks silly on short PCBs and easily takes up 3 slots, pic related is my 6870. reused it later on my 980ti.
>>
>>61630553
The fins look pretty clean, I looked up the temps for similar models of mine and they seem pretty tame in comparison. Probably I got a bad card, I bought it from someone who only used it for two weeks at the time and the warranty runs out in October so maybe then I will consider taking it apart. Thanks for the advice anon.
>>
>>61630541
F O U R
O
U
R
HUNDRED
>>
>>61626695
does steam even differentiate between igpu+dgpu? wouldn't put it past valve to just count that shit twice
>>
>>61630771
iGPUs are counted differently.
>>
>>61630769
Kill yourself.
>>
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>>61611821
Its a premium product when linus is the first cuck to put it hands on
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>>61630936
>>
>>61631028
It's actually the complete opposite
>>
>>61631131

If you are going to team up with OEMS you can do a lot worse than Dell/Alienware.
>>
>>61631117
Kill yourself.
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>>61631028
what is that case

It would look great with a giant Nod logo on the side
>>
>>61631361
YOU
CAN'T
KILL
THE MESSIAH.
>>
>>61631371

I'M A
I'M A
I'M A MECHANICAL MAN.
>>
>>61631371
EA managed to do it anyway.
>>
>>61631597
Fuck you.
>>
>>61631255
Alienware is about as bad as it gets
>>
>>61631343
dual 8 pin 400 watts of ram power
>>
>>61631645
Kill yourself.
>>
>>61631710
Don't be upset sweetie, 400 watts will keep you very warm in the winter
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