CS brainlets

>>61605960
Is this what American education looks like? 4 fucking subjects in a whole semester? No wonder Indians are BTFOing everyone.

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>>61605960

First semester:
- Intro to Java
- Basic problem solving
- Math review
- Seriously. How do you not know algebra?

Second semester:
- Computers have multiple cores
- Problem solving for dummies
- How to fix your shitty nested for-loop
- Arduino programming for mouthbreathers

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>>61605960
et strong

>>61606090
lmao CS degree really is a fucking joke huh

>four classes
>seven credits each
?????

>>61605960
That's many years ago, it always changes

Think it was something like this though

Math 1
Introductionary IT crap for retards
C Coding

Math 2
Physics
C++/OO coding

Both semesters chemistry, env shit and some business how too merged into a big class

>>61606120
Is this what you are doing?
If so, what stage are you at?

>>61606204
prototype. approx 2.5mo out from graduating from here.

>>61606082
we usually have three here now, it used to be a lot more. But they sort of combine classes. It was both ok because you got less exams, but at the same time some subjects (like merging economics with probability, statistics and game theory ) could drag others down. That is you would have gotten a better grade at the math part I mentioned as well hate economics and don't care about that part

That's nigger stuff not engineering

>>61606082
Probably Australian or something. North Americans typically take 5-6 courses a term.

>>61606219
Very nice. Well done. What next? A posting to a ship or sub?

my one circa 1998 was

Semester 1
1st year calculus
functional programming in haskell (gofer)
scientific programming in matlab
philosophy 101 critical thinking
ICH introduction to computer hardware

Semester 2
1st year statistics
OOP in java
Software engineering (involved programming lift control software with uml and java)
philosophy 102 western philosophy
ICH introduction to computer hardware continued.
I think there was some other maths shit as well including vector calcs and linear stuff, it was fun, good prof for that one, the courses don't really matter, it always seemed to be better with a good teacher.

>>61606248
sub vol, so most probably a sub unless they totally fuck up. trying to get out of washington.

>>61605960
I graduated 5 years ago u burger

>>61606262
I guess you guys too would be the highest paid of your rank/ rating in the navy?
Good effort on your part. I can't imagine that this career path would be easy.

>>61606312
i get paid the same as any e4. which i feel is kinda ridiculous, cause rotating shiftwork is 12hrs a day, 7 days a week, with at max 2.5days off in between each week.

its not hard, just a pain to cram all the stuff you need to know in the time they give you

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Mechatronics here, not CS. But we have programming too you can compare to.

first semester
>math 1 (with twice as much content and credits as the other courses)
>Electronics 1
>Physics 1
>Programming 1 (Programming in C)
>"digital circuits" (digital logic circuits, VHDL "programming" and FPGAs)

second semester
>math 2
>electronics 2
>physics 2
>programming 2 (embedded systems, MIPS and assembly language)
>"measuring technology" (sensors and shit)

>>61606381
forgot one course in second semester:
>technical English, where you learn to talk about electronics and shit in English
It's a German college

>>61606082
>Is this what American education looks like? 4 fucking subjects in a whole semester? No wonder Indians are BTFOing everyone.

Uni is not a school where you have classes 5days/week.

3h lectures + 4h exercises for subject ~ 30h/week.

Good unis/polytechnic tend to have less subject, but you are building strong fundamentals. It does not matter that you had several courses about web dev and js or other pajeet language.

Every good company will ask you to solve logical problems/algorithms, they do not care if you know several js frameworks because if you are smart you will learn new things fast, but if you are brainlet no amount of time will change that.

CS derived from math, every single thing is math with few layers of abstraction, you can learn how to query sql, but you are not going to be good without understanding math behind it, you can learn how protocols works, but you will not understand why one protocol is better for given problem (routing protocols).

>>61606082
Post yours senpai

I'm from a post commie central European country. We had 8 courses you were required to take both semesters, and you still had to take a few more optional courses to have enough credits. Also if you fail one of the required courses, you are expelled.

>>61606082
>>61606090
>>61606163
>>61606229
Brainlets making fun of CS program in Zurich ETH.

LMAO

https://www.inf.ethz.ch/studies/bachelor.html

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>tfw can into debt

First semester
>Math 1 (Linear Algebra)
>Physics (with Lab class)
>Electrical Engineering 1
>Intro to Computing (with Lab class)

Second semester
>Math 2 (Real Analysis)
>Electrical Engineering 2 (with Lab)
>Electrical Components (with Lab)
>Algorithms & Programming (C, with Lab)

First year is the same for all engineering students, after that we get to choose specific majors like CS. All this physics and calculus made me want to kms.

>>61606180
where

>>61607324
Mumbai Institute of Technology

First semester
Algorithms and Mathematics 1
• Algorithms
• Linked structures
• Logic and program proofs
• Data analysis or information theory
• Probability and statistics

Programming and Computer Environment 1
• Computer environment (a.k.a. Linux and LaTeX 101)
• Imperative programming 1 (a.k.a. C 101)
• Computer structure
• Microprocessors
• Low level programming projects (assembly and libc-less C)

Second semester
Algorithms and Mathematics 2
• Graph theory
• Finite automata (with some stack automata elements)
• Numerical analysis

Programming and Computer Environment 2
• Introduction to networking
• Functional programming (λ-calculus, Scheme and Racket)
• Imperative programming 2 (C with GNU Make, CMake, gdb and Valgrind)

>>61606082
Indian here, and no, indians aren't "BTFOing" anyone. We're just more in number, willing to work for cheap, so we get hired as code monkeys, not as problem solvers.
Below is my univ's 1st and 2nd sem, i am studying IT. Do you see ANY IT related subjects over there? No because indian goobermint is dumb and thinks everyone being taught basic engineering is a good idea.

>1st sem
Engineering mathematics 1
Physics of engineering materials
Engineering Chemistry
Basic Electrical Engineering
Problem Solving Techniques
Fundamentals of programming

>2nd sem
Engineering mathematics 2 (hellishly tough stuff)
Physics of electronic devices
Chemistry of electronic devices
Basic Electrical Engineering
Environmental science and engineering
Data Structures
English for science and technology

As you can see, Indians study a whole year of unrelated stuff in their 4 year degree. We use turboC++ for learning C and C++ for fuck's sake, and notepad + cmd for java, everything is hilariously outdated.
Most students dont want to study at all, they just are in univ because their parents though "damn we're poor, hey son why dont you get a CS degree and get a nice job, that way you'll be able to feed us all"

Russia EECS

1st sem:

Physics 1
Physics Lab 1
Calculus 1
Analytical Geometry
Theory of Automata
Intro to Programming (Pascal/C)
Chemistry 1
Engineering Graphics (drawing metal parts on paper)
History
English
Sports

2nd sem:
Physics 2
Physics Lab 2
Calculus 2
Linear Algebra 1
Computer Organization
Algorithms and Data Structures
Chemistry 2
Sociology
English
Sports

>>61607788
even pajeets hate pajeets nowadays

Canada CE:

Sem 1:
Intro to Engineering
Calculus I
Linear Algebra
Physics: Mechanics
General Chemistry

Sem 2:
Calculus II
Physics: Waves and Fields
Electric Circuit Analysis
Digital Computation and Programming
Engineering Economics
History of Math and Science I (picked by me)

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>>61605960
Roughly in order:

Intro to Programming (Java)
Classical Logic
Newtonian Physics
OOP Theory (From here on, taught in Java but prof. accepted any applicable language)
Calculus 1
Electromagnetism/Waveform Physics
Data Structures & Algorithms
Discreet Math
Calculus 2

(Insert filler bullshit wherever)

>>61606661
How difficult is it to get into their CS master's program?

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First semester:
-linear algebra
-calculus
-key concepts in CS
-intro to algorithms (C)
-linear arts brain washing course

Semester 2
-intro to algorithms 2 (C)
-Calculus 2
-proofs / real math
-Computer architecture / digital design
-linear arts brain washing course 2

2nd and 3rd year were much more interesting.

what's the weekly workload?

>>61606090
>he thinks analysis has to do with programming

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>>61605960
Languages:
Scala
Haskell
Oberon
>inb4 kys
I will, don't worry
>inb4 muh 50% maths
yes this is Maths + CS

>>61606090
Linear Algebra is all about vector spaces you mouthbreathing fuckhead
Analysis is about providing a solid foundation for traditionally more dodgy and less rigorous fields like calculus and infinite sums.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_algebra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_analysis

and finally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
(you)

>>61606082
Indian here,if you seriously think that everyone here in India is following every subject in Steve Wozniack tier,then revamp your world view,because we are doing exactly opposite of that.

>Teacher gets in with shitty ppt notes.
>Everyone flocks on to it making a book of it.
>Day of exam approaches.
>Everyone gets a pdf file full of questions in Google group.
>Solve and scan the whole shit in their mind.
>10 CGPA with no programming niggas.

I literally passed through subjects like OS and shieet which consisted of no lab whatsoever,I would take a European over Indian anyday if provided with a blank choice,because latter has higher probability of better skill.

TL:DR Indian CS scene is like Chinas IQ.

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Mine was mainly english, math, business, other basic prerequisite jew garbage, and one web development course.

I despise all of the classes I've taken so far. Why do I have to pay and waste my time on all this basic shit...

Mathematics and Probability Theory
Foundations of Digital Design
Object Oriented Program Design
Electrical Circuits

Electronic Fundamentals
Signals and Systems
Unix and C Programming
Data Structures and Algorithms

>>61605960
I am listing only the compulsory classes

First semester:
>Programming 1
>Principles of computer architecture
>Introduction to discrete structures
>Mathematical analysis 1
>Algebra 1
>Sports 1

Second semester:
>Programming 2
>Systems programming
>Introduction to combinatorics and graph theory
>Mathematical analysis 2
>Algebra 2
>Sports 2
>English (non-anglo university)

>>61606082
these programs do not take into account general education courses. 5 classes is more common. 4 classes is the minimum for full time

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>>61605960
Almost done with 3rd year, rate me.

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>>61606857

>>61610193
Sounds comfy actually.
Where?

>>61612945
Oxford, Hopefully
Kind of annoyed because they only have the Oberon compiler for debian based linux (and win/macos)

>>61612876
wtf is "creativity" cant believe thats a subject

>>61613256
Funnily enough, the dude that did the course was very open about it being somewhat of a waste of time.

But the idea was to learn how to brainstorm ideas and get into a useful problem solving state of mind without closing your thinking, which is arguably something useful in engineering.

I studied CS in early 00's in Eastern Europe and first year was designed to weed out brainlets with maths, maths, maths and then some more maths:

- mathematical analysis
- mathematical logic
- algebra
- physics
- numerical methods
- probability theory and statistics
- discrete mathematics (this might have been 2nd year, I don't remember).

These were all mandatory, BTW. There was also "introduction to computer science" which was mostly automata theory and more fucking maths. The only "practical" first year subject was "programming basics" which I didn't attend because I already knew the basics.

I retained maybe 5% of all the math stuff and found less than 1% actually useful, but my e-penis is huge.

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r8 the first 2 years of my CS program

>>61606082
Sweetie, American education is an adult daycare racket for members of the middle class who are too low IQ for entrepreneurship.

From my 2010 curriculum sheet:

Intro to computing - Basic programming (C)
Discrete structures
Intro to computing 2 - Object Oriented Programming (Java)
2 Calculus classes
A science elective
A math elective
GE Garbage

>>61613281
something told me it wouldn't be creativity so much as logical problem solving.

2 Calculus classes
1 physics
2 electronics
2 programming classes (C)
1 AutoCAD
1 Basics of communication trash
1 Web class (basics of html and css. Barely taught us anything about js but over half of the exam was about it. Aced it anyway because I don't have a social life and didn't have anything to do in free time but study)

Only in second year we will actually study CS, first year is basically a retard filter.

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>>61605960
>CS 1 (C)
>Calc 1
>Technical Writing
>Science of your choice

>CS 2 (C++)
>Calc 2
>Any uni core requirement
>Science
>Logic/Design

[spoiler]I failed out in second year thanks to math despite having A's in literally everything else[/spoiler]

>>61613605
>failing calc2
You're a fucking lazy fucker who cruised through school for all his life I bet.
Should have taken the advice this time.

>>61606082
>4 fucking subjects
are you dense lad? what do you think 'Data structures and algorithms' is? Do you have any idea just how many theoretical data types there are? Algorithms? can you think of a broader fucking topic?

LOL LINEAR ALGEBRA ONE COURSE
lad, number of courses does not equal complexit of courses.

so this is what EU education looks like? no wonder all you limeys and itals think soaps are real life.

>>61613637
Sorry to burst your bubble but that is from a German university.

>1st semester
>programming (python)
>humanities
>math (calculus)
>physical education
>introduction to physics
>2nd semester
>introduction to engineering
>chemistry
>more calculus
>more humanities
>physics
>physical education
This is the equivalent of CS in my country, it's called "civil engineering in informatics" just useless shit the first 2 years.

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>>61613623
>You're a fucking lazy fucker who cruised through school for all his life I bet.
Nope I literally graduated top of my class and got a full ride, I just went to a shitty school, I was completely behind in calc 1, the prof would constantly bring up shit that we were supposed to have already learned in HS and it would be things I'd never heard of in the end I really only passed 1 because the teacher felt bad for me and by the time 2 rolled around I had no hope of catching up

First semester
-first 3 chapters of SICP
-intro analysis
-intro linear algebra
-pythonshit
Second semester
-multivariable analysis
-proof in one and multivariable analysis
-intro OOP
-graphics with C++ (write a raytracer and a rasterizer with phong-shading and another shading model, both from the ground up i.e. start with putpixel at (x,y) as the only given primitive function)
And yes there is no class about C++ before the graphics course, we are treated as adults that can learn enough C++ to complete the course by ourselves

>>61613674
Well that sucks.
Did you at least manage to recover from that though?

>>61613674
I was plagued with the same issue. In the end I barely passed the calc2 and that is because I learned all possible questions in advance which I got from my seniors.
What are you in now?

>>61613690
>>61613723
Nope I tried to many times and lost my scholarship, after that I changed to business, in the end it didn't really matter, I was doing CS because I already knew some coding and had a meme career goal but I as long as I graduate at this point I can get a job at either my mother or step fathers places and while I'm finishing up school can work on a portfolio

>>61613759
Good luck

>>61606616
sounds good
what were the courses?

>>61605960
>1st sem
Introduction to Computer """Science""" (programming a sheet of paper in C with I/O streams)
Programming Languages and Techniques I (C standard library for dummies)
Introduction to UNIX (GNU+Linux system administrator tools, bash and AWK)
Discrete Mathematics (combinatorics, graph theory)
Analysis I
Algebra (abstract and then linear)
Basic Electrical Engineering (how to switch a bulb on and check if it's on using a voltmeter)
Communication and Management Techniques (game theory)

>second semester
Algorithms and Data Structures (Cormen)
Mathematical Logic in Computer Science (functional programming and proofs in SML)
Programming Languages and Techniques II (AKA Java is only our tool, we're here to learn about design patterns)
Assembly (16-bit mode x86 MASM on WinXP or DOSBox)
Analysis II (up to surface integrals and Fourier series)
Physics I (high school physics review, only requiring less to learn + integrals and differential equations but nobody requires you to know that yet)
Basic Electronics (how to switch a transistor on and check if it's on on an oscilloscope)
Social and Legal Aspects of Computer Science (copywrite laws)

>>61605960
>7 credits for Data Structures
>7 credits for Linear Algebra
>7 credits for Discrete Mathematics

Lel, brainlet indeed. Those are 5 credit classes in any respectable university. Data structures is 4. Hell even my community college had those. What a fucking joke of a school you go to.

>>61614298
>Lel, brainlet indeed. Those are 5 credit classes in any respectable university. Data structures is 4.

its Zurich ETH

kek

Why are you assuming that level of teaching is exact same on every uni?

If you are on shit uni your algos classes will require some simple algos implementation, while on better univ, clrs is must read before start of semester because prof will cover it in first week and assumes that you understand it and then move to more advanced stuff.

I have been working with graduates after those 4 credit classes, people after discrete math were struggling with knuth concrete math exercises while on other univ you have to be able to solve those ex before semester start to keep with your group level. Is your discrete math 4 meme credit course going to cover analytic combinatorics? I do not think so.

>>61607203
Tough to do real analysis without the proper fundamental. Undergraduates should really have at least a semester of something to help them transition from high school math to college math. I'm guessing you're from a country where the high school treatment of calculus is more rigorous than the US?