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Old thread is autosaging so here we are.

If you want help:
>Assemble your parts list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (kind of outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No i5 unless discounted
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)
>R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon)
>R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks
>i7 7700k - Only for 144hz
>R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor.
The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any <$30 cooler.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3X8GTH

Using the Sugo SG13 case (going for something small)

The motherboard is the ITX version but its not listed on pcpartpicker

Is it worth going to a 1070?
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>>61600122
>autosaging
it's called BUMP LIMIT.
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>>61600227
For just 1920x1080 gaming probably not unless you can get a deal on one. Or you know you want to play some game that needs a 1070 to play on maximum quality. All the prices are still a bit fucked up due to crypto mining.
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>>61600227
Questionable choice in RAM.
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>>61600267
Thanks

>>61600275
What would you recommend?
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>>61600122
Is using old server crap a good idea?
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>>61600122
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)
>R5 1400 - Cheapest quad core you can get (Ryzen 3 soon)
You guys didn't even try did you?
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>>61600311
No time to be accurate when you're racing to create the new thread to get your shilling in the OP.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZVBjVY
Thoughts?
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>mobo has dual channel support

Is it still worth the extra $30 or so to get 4x8gb of ram rather than 2x16?
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>>61600455
Almost everything about this is stupid
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>>61600553
What specifically is wrong with it?
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>>61600542
No
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>>61600542
2x16 wiil provide plenty enough bandwidth, better to max out slots and not have to rebuy ram if you decide to max out your system
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>>61600455
Is this the "I have more money than knowledge about PC building" build?
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>>61600455
Is this a joke?
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>>61600368
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>>61600455
Great meme I love memes. :)
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>>61600557
Overpriced motherboard with a monoblock while there is already a cooler. Using stupidly tall RAM with a NH-D15. 2x8GB ram and not 2x16gb
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>>61600632
Why would i need more than 16gb ram if its just for gaming?
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Post your e-mail and pick which ones would you like to get.
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>>61600668
So i can get a bunch of spam?
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>>61600668
[email protected]

i7 7700k
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>>61600654
because why the hell not? someone who is spending 4k+ on a system better have more than 16gb
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>>61600749
But what would I use the extra 16gb for? Ive never heard of any game that uses more than that
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>>61600668
I want the i7 7700k
[email protected]
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Help
I have 2×4Gb 3000mhz lpx vengeance ram dual channel and i want to upgrade. If i add 2×8Gb 3000mhz lpx vengeance ram dual channel?
Looking at the mobo (pic related) the 4 ram slots are in 2 colors which means i can only run dual channel can these two dual channels have different kits?
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>>61600796
You can run different sized kits in separate channels. I run a kingston 2x8 and a corsair 2x2 and dual channel still works
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>>61600859
Are both at same speed?
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Just bought a 7700k for 200 bucks through my work discount.

What LGA 1151 motherboard should I look at?
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>>61600668
Hit me up with that i7 7700k please.
Email is in name field.
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>>61600455
>Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset
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Which one should I get? Seems like they have pretty similar specs. Basically, which is best value? (and has the least chance of being DOA?)
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>>61600911
yeah the kingston is at 1333mhz, the corsairs can run at 1600mhz with an XMP profile but there not stable so both kits are at 1333mhz.
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need a budget ryzen mobo I am curently looking at Asus Prime B350M-A
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>>61600247
it's the same thing
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>>61600956
i've got a viii maximus. what i like about it

>lots of configuration between sound/CPU/RAM/GPU/etc. entirely too much for a noob like me
>reflash without a CPU
>no GPU sag
>built for a powerhouse of a computer. easy overclock for RAM and CPU. easy to configure fans, etc.

If you're in to the LED craze, the Maximus boards also have Aura which can control the LEDs right off of the board, just another plus.
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>>61600668
>7700k
>$200
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VHLXr7

does anyone else build put together parts lists for fun? just to think of what could be built?

i built my current PC with the best parts available (at the time) and now I'd like to build something with a theme of sorts
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>>61601169
The real themeing coming from decorating your PC.
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>>61601036
Eh, I only caught a few.
No, seriously. I've been waiting for months for this shit, and see what I got? A fucking card error and most of us are having the same issue. Hope Jewtel will fix this asap or else I'm going to burn their headquarters down with all of my rage.
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>>61601188

i'm not the artsy type. if anything i'd put together some parts that had similar colors
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>>61600455
Ok why dont you actually tell me how to improve it instead of
>le memes xdddd
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>>61601190
wtf what website is that?
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>>61601190
Just send them some i9s :^)
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>>61601231
It's oblivously a joke build, nobody is going to waste their time with it.
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>>61601272
Well what is a better headset for around $100?
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>>61601190
>Tfw my purchase went through no issues first time

>>61601257
Intel retail edge, for employees of electronic stores. I work at Bestbuy and that's part of it but there's other stores that are eligible for it.

And yes working for Bestbuy sucks major cock.
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>>61601305
Was Max autistic?
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Given their history of forcing consumers to buy worse performing but more expensive chips, anti-competition behaviour/practices, and known bribery. How the fuck can anyone support Intel?
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>>61601231

1. you're using a bunch of parts that aren't completely justified in their cost.

2. that motherboard is too big. ATX at most

3. change the M.2 to a 500gb. 1tb is actually unnecessary because the SSD is best for running boot and programs. Media should run off of an HDD

4. you only need a 750w power supply

5. Intel chips don't benefit from stupid high end RAM like the

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wy4cnn

I changed the motherboard, the RAM, the PSU, and the SSD and you save a lot of cash.

Also /pcbg/ doesn't take too well to flashy builds with LEDs and RGB whatever. So keep that in mind.
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>>61601299
Anything that doesn't have these meme words:
>gaming
>7.1
>Beats
>Bose
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>>61601272
Its not a joke, i just thought that build was the best performance I could get in terms of gaming. Why dont you actually tell me what i need for the best performance
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>>61601311
Probably, he wouldn't say shit, and would get upset at little things.
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>>61601305
ok ya. nice delio sonny enjoy that new cpoo
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>>61601318

what you need for best gaming performance is

1. a 7700k
2. a 1080ti (in SLI if possible)
3. a 1440p 144hz or 1080p 240hz monitor
4. a laser mouse with comfortable ergonomics
5. a razer orbweaver

okay that last one is arguable but the rest are pretty set in stone
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>>61601312
It just werks.
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>>61601380
>240hz
ok thats getting a bit ridiculous now
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>>61600122

What would be the ideal amount of RAM for a media server? I've heard that FreeNAS/zfs would require at least a gig per TB. I plan for now having at least 32TB. But, I also see Synology prebuilts using 8GB with max caps of 150TB. Does it just depend on the software I use? Again it'd just be a box streaming shit via ethernet to a Kodi box.
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>>61601380
nigga why would I spend 3 grand on all that shit
that's overkill.
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>>61601390

hey it works for those CS:GO guys
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>>61601389
only because of their monopoly. Intel doesn't innovate and has no intention of ever properly competing. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
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>>61601401

nigga that dude said he wanted the best in gaming performance

read the replies blackskin
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>>61601394
You don't need shitload of RAM just to stream
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>>61601401
That's the best performing equipment *for gaming* on the market
If you want the best bang for the buck on gaming:

>AMD Ryzen 5 1600 CPU'
>AM4 platform B350 motherboard with good VRMs
>AMD RX 580 *note this is only recommended if at MSRP. Fucking miners have ruined the current market*
>1080p 120 hz monitor
>Logitech G403
>Corsair K68
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Can you guys talk me out of this ? I already ordered a 144hz monitor and would feel its wasted if I dont get a 7700k. I only game anyway
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbWqzM
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WHY THE FUCK DOESNT RYZEN 3 HAVE A GPU?
twll me, is it actually good? better than i3, pentium etc?
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>>61601430
what games? Ryzen can meet 144 Hz on a number of games.
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>>61601313
Im pretty sure that ill need 1tb of storage for games, but thanks for the advice. So if I get faster ram above ddr4 3000 it wont make a difference with an i7 7700k?
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>>61601402
more like CS:FAGOS
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>>61601435
>WHY THE FUCK DOESNT RYZEN 3 HAVE A GPU?
Because that's the territory of the upcoming Zen-based Raven Ridge APUs.
>tell me, is it actually good? better than i3, pentium etc?
stock, it puts up a good fight. But unlike the i3 and Pentium competition, the R3 can be overclocked. And when overclocked, performance is closer to an i5 than an i3.
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>>61600122

>playing video game
>decide I want an upgrade in preformance
>upgrade video card
>cpu is now bottlenecking

I still have ddr3 ram so I'm kinda fucked for upgrading. I can afford a cpu+mobo but getting new ram pushes me over budget. Not to mention my gpu upgrade did squat so it was essentially money wasted. It helped with older games but turns out my main game is mostly cpu intensive. Glad I refunded that order though
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>>61601450
>So if I get faster ram above ddr4 3000 it wont make a difference with an i7 7700k?
correct. It makes a HUGE difference on AMD Ryzen CPUs, but not on Intel CPUs. Different architectures
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>bought mobo and cpu that can't overclock
>bought 3.5gb 970 card
>bought 1080 60Hz monitor
heh... I, uh... well...
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>>61601462
sell your old GPU and put the money towards new DDR4 ram.
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>>61601457
i dont get it though, i need cpu power, not gpu which means if i wanted ryzen id need another investment (so the price ends up being more). and raven ridge is looking to be shit tier hyper budget stuff.
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>>61601493
Raven Ridge hasn't released yet anon. They haven't even announced a release date.
Just grab a GTX 1030 or an RX 550 2GB on the cheap them.
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>>61601477

Is there really a market for a radeon hd7870? Where am I supposed to sell it even, ebay?
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>>61601438
Well DOOM and Prey,probably other new releases too
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>>61601531
sell it on Craigslist or ebay. There's always a market for used parts. current ebay prices show it goes for $50 to $100, depending on which one, so you should be able to get new DDR4 ram for that price.
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>>61601548
A Ryzen 5 1600 can peg the 200 FPS limiter in Doom. I'll assume similar for Prey. They'revery well optimized titles
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is ryzen 3 worth it in Australia? the 1200 is $150 aud
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>>61601576
No. 1600 or get the pentium. The ones in the caught in the middle is pretty shit.
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>>61601576
Only if you OC
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>>61601576
Here. From Australia. This should answer it for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoR0RDETGZI
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I've got an old Radeon X800 GTO. Think this'll do for 2017 gaming?
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>>61601614
no.
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>>61601557
I live in a rural area so craiglist is out of the question, I guess I might try ebay. My original plan was to use my old parts to build my gf a computer so I can get her into gaming, but I'd rather have a good rig for myself.

I guess my next question if anyone cares, is there a worthwhile budget upgrade from an overclocked i5 3570k? Or should I just shell out the ~$300+ for a decent cpu/mobo combo. I don't care about anything above 1080p and 60fps currently, so I don't think I need top of the line products
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>>61601622
If I crossfired it with a Radeon HD 5770, could it do some damage?
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>>61601565
Alright thanks anon, I actually already have a 1700x build ready. I just can't decide.
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>>61601642
no
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cvz4f8
This is my first time building pc, i don't have any experience so I'm keeping the parts cheap
Any suggestions will be helpful
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>>61601678
Bad power supply.
Don't need to buy windows. Pirate it, faggot. The chinese do.
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>>61601678

1) You don't need that Hyper 212. Stock cooler runs fine
2) 8GB RAM is enough
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>>61601695
I am going to pirate it, i just put it there to complete the build
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>>61601678
A few questions.
1: Do you plan to upgrade later on?
2: If so, does upgrading while keeping the same motherboard and memory matter to you?
3: What games do you plan to play?
4: Do you want the best bang for the buck, or the cheapest usable for gaming?
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>>61601705
Yeah, there's that too. 212 is also a bitch to install, almost as bad as stock intel cooler with its stupid plastic pin inserts.
Use the money saved to splurge on the PSU.
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>>61601678

does that cpu come with a cooler? aftermarket are way overkill.
also just pirate windows you can get genuine with a google search
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>>61601718
You can get the 212 LED which while it has a worse HS, is a 100 times easier to install.
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>>61601718

have they changed the 212 evo? mines from 2012 and is easy to install, I even replaced my thermal compound recently and it took no time
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Should I just buy whatever 3200mhz ram I like now and hope that it will eventually be compatible? Or am I better off only going for Samsung B Die based memory? These prices are killing me and I just want to buy a nice pair of sticks before they increase again.
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>>61601678
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kn8DgL
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>>61601734
The installation is still frustrating compared to coolers like Noctua or Cyrorig.
>>61601735
Do your fucking research, it will save you headaches and frustrations. Go Samsung.
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>>61601705
The cooler i actually dirt cheap in my country
>>61601715
>1: Do you plan to upgrade later on?
Not in the near future <12months
>2: If so, does upgrading while keeping the same motherboard and memory matter to you?
>3: What games do you plan to play?
Mostly games before 2010,i haven't played any good games had a shitbox 360,so I'm going to play them according to year of their release up to 2010
>4: Do you want the best bang for the buck, or the cheapest usable for gaming?
Well this is the cheapest non shit parts i could assemble, you got any suggestions
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>>61601746
Now this is fucking nice and isn't gimped by a locked Intel CPU.
>that price
not bad, not bad at all
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>>61601734
>>61601749
It is annoying cause the criss cross bracket is fucking retarded and requires you to mount the HS, then put screw it in and then screw in the center screw. While not moving the HS.
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>>61601771
I really, really hate the 212.
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>>61601735
Just make sure it's in the QVL. I bought a Samsung B-Die 3200MHz CL16 thinking it will get supported later on but my board won't post even after AGESA 1.0.0.6a
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QrYkBP
Okay, what do you think of it now?
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>>61601783
needs poptarts to round off the cost
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>>61601759
>Not in the near future <12months
didn't mean in the near future. I meant in the next few years. sorry if that wasn't clear

>Well this is the cheapest non shit parts i could assemble, you got any suggestions
Well currently, the best value build is an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 processor, with a good B350 chipset motherboard (Asrock AB350M Pro 4 is a great choice here), 8 GB of ram (the faster, the better), a good PSU, and a ~$50 case (I'd look at a Corsair Carbide series case or a Fractal Design Focus G)

As to Windows, don't buy it. microsoft will give you windows 10 for free from their own website.
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>>61601779
212 Evo is annoying.
212 LED is about as easy as H7.
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>>61601783
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QrYkBP
That's still a gaming headset
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>>61601771
>screw in the center screw
wait what? I never did this and my temps are great, I just aligned it and screwed in the four mounting points
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>>61601746
>A320 chipset
anon....
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>>61601806
So what do i get instead?
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>>61601820
You are supposed to tighten the center screw after screwing in the four mounting parts. This is the part people bitch about the most.
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>>61601830
visit headphones general to see what they're wanking about
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>>61601783
And is 750w really gonna be enough when im overclocking it?
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Best manufacturers for 1050ti?
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>>61601800
Thanks for the suggestions, i just put the parts whatever i found cheap but now I will make changes according to your suggestions thanks again
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Whats the best i can get for around $300?
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>>61601857
Also, Ryzen processors NEED a graphics card. GPU prices are currently fucked over thanks to miners. The best GPU you can get right now that isn't ridiculously overpriced is the 1050Ti
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>>61601843
More than enough
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>>61601759
>>61601780
Alrighty then, looks like I might just play it safe and stick with the Flare X or Dominator Platinum sticks. rip my wallet
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>>61601840
I've been running my pc without the center screw tightened for 5 years :v I thought it was just the pivot point for the adjustable bracket.

also I'd like to point out that you can move a heat sink around on the cpu, people act like these components are extremely delicate but once the cpu is seated its difficult to break it and lightly scratching the lid isn't going to hurt your temps
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>>61601859
a handjob from a black hooker
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Going for a R5 1600 build for gaming and vegas video editing. Which B350 MoBo is the best? I'm looking at the AsRock AB350 Pro 4 since it has 3 chassis fan headers unlike the mATX. I want mATX tho but the MSI Mortar Arctic (it has enough case fan headers unlike the AB350M mATX) had "bad vrm" so I'm not sure about it. Keep it under $120 so the tomahawk is not considered. (Hopefully neutral colors since the build is B&W)
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>>61601871
What's the difference in oc edition it only costs a bit more in my country
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>>61601844
Probably go for Zotac. The Dual Fan OC one. Check comparisons on the net also :D
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>>61601880
No. What it is gonna do if you move it around is introduce air bubbles into contact point (the main reason why you always reapply the paste if you remove the heat sink) and not tighten it just means that the paste has to do a bigger job compared to metal on metal on contact.
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>>61601890
Its factory overclocked for some better performance. Here. I made you a build based on USA prices.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4QKvyf
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>>61601890
are you talking about the 1050ti? the oc edition has a slightly faster stock clock/mem speed, without you having to mess around with overclocking it yourself
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>>61601888
Just daisy chain your fans or use a molex adapter to run your fans directly off your psu.
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>>61601912
if I do connect it directly to my PSU then it will always run at full speed? The case has 2 intake and 1 exhaust so the exhaust should be the one directly connected amirite?
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>>61601905
Thanks i will check the prices in my country and i found this build better than a lot of other builds i looked, this is the build that i am going to make
>>61601906
Well if oc edition is better then i will purchase it because it costs only little more than 1050ti
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>>61601947
>if I do connect it directly to my PSU then it will always run at full speed?
Yes. Regardless, you always want your fans to be running at a constant speed. A constant slightly louder noise is better than listening to the wind up and wind down of a case fan. Unless you buy quiet fans.
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>>61601903
>air bubbles
If you were de-lidding a cpu then MAYBE you should be worried about air bubbles, but for heat sink installation this is a non issue. People really make pc building out to be harder than it is, as long as you don't put too little paste on, or WAY too much it will be fine.

>>61601957
Yes, if you don't know about overclocking just get the OC edition. Saves you the hassle and you don't have to void your warranty on the off chance something goes wrong
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>>61601996
>but for heat sink installation this is a non issue.
It is an non issue but if you wiggle and move your HS around after you have installed it especially if it is not tighten down it becomes an issue. It is just a cautionary tale.

Don't put too little paste.
Don't put too much paste.
Method really doesn't matter.
Put your HS down and hold it with one hand while you tighten the sides.
Make sure it is secure

Done.
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>>61601996
>if you don't know about overclocking just get the OC edition. Saves you the hassle and you don't have to void your warranty on the off chance something goes wrong
That is bullshit. The only time where something can go wrong with GPU overclocking is when you push your GPU voltage too high but pascal is so retard friendly it absolutely prevents you from doing that.

Nvidia bios all have voltage limitation below the hard specs and the only way you can exceed them is by hardware modding the card.
GPU boost 3.0 makes all the cards run within 5% of each other.
GPU overclocking if you want to do it manually is easy as fuck.

I don't know why people sprout memes like void warranty on the off chance something goes wrong when it comes to the GPU.
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>>61602040
>memes
I don't think you know what that word means.

If someone doesn't know anything about pc parts or what oc edition is, they should get the factory oc version. the price difference is so negligible, and from what I see they come with generally better cooling configurations.

$10 extra for a ready out of the box part is completely acceptable.
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>>61601402
There's a lot of stuff that works for CS:GO and other Esports players, but are useless outside of that.
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>>61602089
>the price difference is so negligible
And so is the performance difference. 100 or so mhz is actually only 3-5 FPS gain in real world games.

>and from what I see they come with generally better cooling configurations.
No they don't you moron. The only difference is the binning of the chip.

When you pay for the OC edition you are just paying for a better chip and with boost 3.0, that translate to a 100 or so difference in mhz at max load. Everything else is the same.

If that you don't mind that 3-5 FPS for 30 or so dollars be my guest.
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Friend wants to start pc gaming. Has around 1400 buckaroos to spend.
How does this sound?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DgqjVY
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>>61602139
>Buying windows
>Finding a 480 in stock
>Blower card
>1 stick of RAM
>A NH-D15 for a 1300x
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>>61602139
drop the cooler and grab a 1600 instead
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>>61602139
>80$ mouse
>Buying windows
>NH-D15
>1 ram stick
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BtR73F

aside from the GPU, it seems pricey for what it is
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>>61602139
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xNZNhq
Go with a build like this
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>>61602390
>Intel
At that point you might as well grab an AMD Ryzen 3 1200 with a Gigabyte/Asrock B350 ITX motherboard.

And yea, GPUs are overpriced at the moment because of miners. The 1060 3GB should be around $170. Just get a 1050Ti until prices return to normal
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>>61602390
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xT373F
Here I saved you 30 dollars. Don't pick a Z board if you are not going to overclock. You don't put a CPU cooler so I assumed you are not going to.

>>61602444
The Ryzen 3 competes with the i3 not with the pentiums. At the sub 100 dollar price range, you are still better off with Intel.
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>r3 1200
at least add that if you want gaming the g4560 is cheaper and faster in games
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>>61602472
Huh I didn't even notice that the G4560/G4600 got removed. Seriously who the fuck edited the OP. The R3 1200 is over a hundred dollars while the G4560/4600 are both sub 100.
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Gaming & just general use, nothing else.
1500$ budget, not including peripherals.

I'm gonna be putting the two HDD's into Raid 0, and use the SSD for boot.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lkjrjc
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>>61602465
>At the sub 100 dollar price range, you are still better off with Intel.
with that cooler he chose, He may as well have bought a Ryzen 5
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>>61602517
The G4560/G4600 have had production slashed by Intel because they were eating i3 sales. Intel is trying to force people to buy i3's. At the i3 price point though, the R3 is a better buy unless you're building a Dolphin emulator
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>>61602547
He didn't choose any cooler retard.
Did you even read list or are you ready to fire off your shill salvo the moment you open a pcp list and see the words intel?
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>>61602566
Yes at the i3 price point, the R3 is better unless of course you are in a unique situation where you don't require a GPU. Regardless, that is not the point of my post, my post is about some AMD shill altering the OP to suit his narrative again. I guess removing the 7700k was too obvious so changing the G4560/4600 is more subtle
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>>61602586
Again. G4560 and G4600 prices aren't what they should be They're sold out virtually everywhere, and the only places that have them have G4560s at $82 and G4600s at $90. At that point, just grab an R3
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bPL3pb

i want to play dota on ubuntu and watch some hi-def movies

did i screw anything up? i got a mobo with wifi and the correct socket for the cpu. i got ram that's on the mobo qvl and a video card that is temporarily overpriced but a good value to begin with. i got a modest ssd with a large external and a power supply that i have no idea whether to gauge if it is sufficient. minimal case, keyboard (cherry mx red), and mouse, and a fairly large monitor

did i forget something or miss some fundamental compatibility issue? thanks
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>>61602607
$82 is still way less than $109 and you get a cpu that on average is faster in games
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>>61602607
>They're sold out virtually everywhere
Who you trying to ruse faggot?
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>>61602655
>$86 for a Pentium
Fucking Intel. I hope AMD eventually puts them out of business
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>>61601430
Ryzen can hit 144fps in many games
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>>61602628
if all you're playing is dota then a 1050 ti is capable of 1440p. Don't touch polaris right now.
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When is Raven Ridge?
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>>61602139
R5 1600, no cooler, two ram sticks, at least a 128gb ssd, drop windows the gay ass case and mouse boi, change the monitor to a 144hz one. Get a aftermarket gpu.
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>>61602629
Not in reality.
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>>61601844
Doesn't matter, just get whichever one is cheapest.
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>>61602821
Just wait it out comfy style
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Alright
I'm building a NAS. Any glaring dumb issues I'm missing on? I'm planning on using freeNAS with the drives formatted to ZFS with parity.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dThb9W
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Is my build ok for gaming and CAD? Budget is 800-1000$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Tc8gL
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With GPUs being a bust at the moment i'm considering something a little crazy and a little pointless. With AMD announcing Bristol Ridge being available to buy, and my hunger for a new project, i'm seriously thinking about getting a Streacom F1C chassis and building myself a new HTPC. With the added bonus of being able to just drop a raven ridge APU when they are released.

I do currently have a Gigabyte Brix i3, but it's fairly anaemic for anything besides video and has limited options for storage.
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>>61602669
Maybe when they come up with something that can be fitted into budget builds with a sub 100 dollar CPU
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>>61603437
>Raven Ridge is soon
Intel will be fucked
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>>61603454
When Raven Ridge arrives and it is better, we can edit the OP. No need for blatant shilling of the R3 in advice and in the OP.
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>>61603454
Really? they just released Bristol Ridge for purchase by normal users, i'd have thought Raven Ridge would be a minimum of 6 months away
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>>61603483
All we know is Raven Ridge is releasing in the second half of 2017, and it's based on the Zen architecture.
>waiting for Athlon APUs to once again BTFO Pentiums
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Have a i7-7700k + gtx 1080 +16ram 3000mhz.
What should i upgrade?
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I plan on buying a used i5 760 for $50. Any risks in this other than starting a house fire?
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>>61603507
Switch to Ryzen.
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>>61603507
Monitor.
Cooling system.
In that other.
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>>61603508
starting a forest fire and having Smokey rip you to shreads before fucking your mother on your mutilated corpse
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>>61603496
Cool, maybe i'll hold off on that HTPC project then.
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I bought a Ryzen 1700 with some corsair vengeance 3200 mhz ram, but I can't get it to more than 2666 mhz, is there any chance that in the future there will be a BIOS update that will make my motherboard support higher ram speeds?
I know I should've checked QVL list, but I don't live in the USA and there was very little choice.
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>>61603642
>is there any chance that in the future there will be a BIOS update that will make my motherboard support higher ram speeds?
We don't know. How do you expect us to predict the future? Shit your Mobo might even get EoL before the AM4 architecture is phased out.
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unlocked 4c/4t
3000mhz ram
24" freesync
$650
>how can Intel® even compute?
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>>61603810
>24" freesync
Wew
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>>61603477
Are we sure raven will be available for desktop? Everything I've looked at seems to say it'll be mobile only
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>>61603825
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XYsDgL
vs
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vsD9m8
>oh shit
>$300 cheaper than a locked 2c/4t with 2400mhz ram

Just like Vega<1080ti with a similar small deficit in peak performance.

If the 570/580 were available they'd be destroying the midrange too

2017, year of the red tide.
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>>61603954
It is 300 dollar cheaper cause you added a 350 monitor to the intel list you fucking imbecile. Are all red users as stupid as you?
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200€ for a 3gb asus gtx 1060 dual - worth it?
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>>61604012
>3GB
I would say no. Either get the 6GB one or drop to the 1050ti
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>>61604022
>get the 6GB
But paying 150€ more for just additional 3Gb is something only a madman would do.
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>>61604071
Then get the 1050ti
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>>61604071
or a miner
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Which generation of -80ti has equal or worse performance than the 1050, /pcbg/?
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>>61604389
None, the first would be the 780ti and it's more powerful than a 1050
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>>61604422
Ok fine, is the 780 worse than the 1050?
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>>61604429
No
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>>61602540
read the op
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I may regret my decision in the future, but I pulled the trigger today on a new system.

CPU: Ryzen 7 1700
MOBO: MSI B350m Pro Gaming
RAM: 16gb (2x8) Corsair LED DDR4 3000mhz
SSD: Samsung 960 EVO 250gb
PSU: EVGA 650 G3
CASE: MasterBox Lite 3.1

Already picked up a Gigabyte RX 580 4gb locally for $250. Now I can use my i5 4570/RX 460 as an HTPC.

Did I fuck up anywhere in particular?
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Anyone use optane with their hdd? Is it good?
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>>61604708
>MOBO: MSI B350m Pro Gaming
That one kind of sucks
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>>61604708
I can't see your RAM in the QVL? Why not the Gaming Pro Carbon for some delicious Intel NIC and Realtek ALC1220?
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>>61604708
>Did I fuck up anywhere in particular?
I'd have gotten a better motherboard, and a better case, but otherwise, it's fine. Hell, even then it's fine.
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>>61604712
>optane
don't bother with that meme.
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>>61604755
It hit that budget spot that I was trying to find. Motherboard probably wasn't the best place to cut corners, but the reviews seemed okay and I doubt I'll be overclocking any time soon.

>>61604761
Didn't consult the QVL. And I wanted to stick to mATX form factor as far as size goes. As for the NIC, I'm using an AC1200 adapter for wireless (I know wireless is garbage, but running ethernet isn't doable and I've had bad experiences with powerline adapters in the past) and for the Realtek ALC1220, I use an audio interface, so I don't know if that matters.

>>61604772
Fine is what I was aiming for. Mostly wanting a faster SSD, decent gaming experience, and a multi-core/multi-thread system for content creation.
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>>61604834
The B350M PRO-VDH, B350M Bazooka or B350M Mortar all have a superior VRM setup and are around the same price. For whatever reason, the B350M Pro Gaming only has a 3+2 phase VRM setup, compared to the 4+2 phase design that MSI used on all their other B350 boards. It's really not ideal for an eight core chip, though you'll probably get away with a 1700 at stock. I wouldn't try overclocking it on that board though.
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>>61600122
What case should I buy? I currently have an InWin Mana 136, a MSI B150 PC MATE motherboard and a MSI ARMOR GTX 1080 OC (pretty long card).

I like minimal looking cases, particularly would like a silver/metal or gunmetal finish, but really just want a classy looking case more than anything.
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>>61604926
This is why I knew I should've come here first, but I kept putting off buying a new rig over and over again for the past few months and felt like pulling the trigger tonight and didn't want to risk talking myself out of it again.

Depending on the performance, I may resell the mobo and get a nicer one eventually. I'm only out ~$70 minus the resell if I do.
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>>61604708
Also, I lied I got a 500gb 960 EVO, not 250gb.
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>>61603979
they are both the cheapest 24" 1080p adaptive sync displays. It's apples to jew apples.
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fell for the Ryzen meme and aside from the usual windows fuck ups like corrupting the MBR everything is going fine. My only issue now is Ryzen Master showing the wrong temp. Using a 1700 with the stock cooler and a Crosshair 6 hero
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>>61605080
One of those has 2 monitors retard.
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is it safe to connect two led strips to an rgb header via a y-splitter?

>>61605467
Wasn't there an update for ryzen master that fixes this?
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I'm looking at reviews for all kinds of shit because I have some money coming in a few months. The thing that caught my interest the most is optane. I'm already on kaby/z270 so that's not a problem.
When paired with an HDD it loads WoW faster than an 850 evo and a 960 evo(960 is on another graph).
Is something like two 2tb HDDs in raid0+optane a good game library solution? I'd really like to get my games of my 500gb SSD outside of my most played one. It's TLC and I'm chewing through it's life span way too fast.
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>>61605724
Optanes aren't worth their price mark
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>>61605817
$70 optane and a $100 hdd appears to give you 4tb of SSD game load times for the price of a 500gb ssd though?
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>>61605670
There was probably an update to fix this but on the current version and latest BIOS it's showing an the wrong temp. My biggest concern is if this is a software issue or hardware issue.

>is it safe to connect two led strips to an rgb header via a y-splitter?
I don't see why it would be an issue. If you can daisy chain them together I don't see why you couldn't put them in parallel.
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>>61605833
Saw the optane + HDD thing. I did some googling and not quite sure how it works (didn't look too hard) but if it works that's good.

I was thinking more of optane on it's own (where it's 32GB for almost $80).
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>>61605874
I double checked and it was indeed updated. Considering it's a ryzen master update I would have to say it is almost most definitely a software issue.

>I don't see why it would be an issue
I don't either but electricity is still magic to me. I really should learn more about how amps and voltage work.
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Am I better off going 2x4GB RAM, or 1x8GB?
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>>61605896
Oh yeah that's of course not worth it. If you were around during the early SSD days there a bunch of caching solutions, this is a modern take on that.
My understanding is that software uses logic to manage which 32gb of files would be best kept on the low latency/high speed optane for you.
It's like having a qt trap under your desk on adderall constantly shuffling files around your dicks for you.
I was hoping someone else bit and could give some feedback.
I may just buy a bunch of 2tb drives and make a big raid. Modern HDDs can get past 200 read speeds, a bunch in raid would be nice for a game library where the data is trivial to redownload I think.
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>>61604671
So what would you propose I use?
A Ryzen processor that I'm pretty much wasting, since I'm not doing editing or rendering of any sorts? Or, an i7 that's way out of budget?
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>>61600122
I need to know what monitor I should buy if I was wanting a 34 inch curved wide-screen.
Didn't have to be curved but it is preferable.
Also I am on a budget so whats the best colour wise and sharpness wise ? I'm not buying the ridiculously over priced Acer predator or Asus Rog one. Fuck that noise.
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>>61606025
If you want a 34 inch curved wide-screen, the cheapest you can get is somewhere is 600$. Mind you, most of that price is due to the curve.

If you're willing to dish out 600$, the LG 34UC79G-B is the probably the way to go. 21:9, curved, 2560 x 1080, 144hz, & 34 inches.

I can't speak for the colors or sharpness myself, but it's an IPS monitor so it's probably gonna have good colors.


If it doesn't have to be curved, then you're looking at something in the 300-400 range.

If you wanna go that route, one of the LG 34UM's is probably the way to go.
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Advice? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fhj6tJ
The primary purpose for powerful hardware is of course 144hz games but I'm the kind of person who lives on his PC. No TVs or tablets or laptops, just my desk in the middle of the living room and thats where I spend all of my time.
I'm delidding the 7700k, case supports the 280mm rad up top, 120mm rad from the gpu in the back, and has a big fat fan up front.
Need the fast ram my most played game scales like crazy on it and most other games I've looked at that interest me show positive scaling as well.
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>>61606211
Thanks, for a while I was looking at the AOC AGON AG352UCG for a bit but I'll look at those too.
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>>61605724
>>61605944
Optane is a high-speed (higher than NVME SSD speed - well, at least in single queue depth) cache. In order for data to be cached, it has to be read into the cache, from the slow HDD. This concept has been used for ages. XP had ReadyBoost, Seagate integrated flash memory into their 'SSHD' drives, budget performance TLC SSDs added a small amount of SLC as buffer/cache to increase performance, etc. The idea is you take all the frequent reads that cause the drive to thrash slowly and throw them into the cache, so the drive can do large sequential reads (which would otherwise exhaust the cache) with less interruption. You also buffer small frequent writes and write them as larger ones sequentially.

It won't make your whole storage array as fast as an SSD. A single modern game can dwarf the whole 16/32GB cache. The question is, in your use case scenario (games) is it better to have super fast 32GB cache (optane) 120GB very fast cache (120/128GB NVMe) or a fast 240GB (SATA SSD) cache. Those three options are roughly the same price.

The listed benchmark shows that with WoW, the difference between SATA SSD and pure optane is 2%. Optane costs roughly 800% more per GB.

You can set up SSD caching with something like PrimoCache, or since you get a ton more space you can just manually move games you actually want to play over to a dedicated game SSD and not fuck with caching at all. Or you could buy an NVMe drive to use for your OS+Apps and dedicate the old 500GB to gaming while it lasts.
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>>61605015
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M? NZXT S340? Or those Corsair Carbide series? Fractal Define series maybe?
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>>61605015
Today's "Shell Shocker"
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811553002

I have one of these, it's pretty good
As long as you don't use more than 4 hard drives, or don't mind converting a bigger bay down to size for more storage room
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>>61606373
Any specific front panel IO requirements?
How much money are you willing to dish out on a case?
Are you watercooling your CPU or GPU?
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>>61605925
2x8
You'll thank me a few years from now
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>>61606255
>MasterLiquid Pro 280
I recommend Corsair H100i especially since you can fit 280mm on the top (the 240mm version is fine too).

It's better in every way (and even somehow quieter which is where I thought it would lose).
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>>61605925
>>61606430
Ditto, 16gb ram is really worth it. Not a meme.
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>>61606435
Alright cool, fixed. Thank you
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pLwLRG
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>>61606443
It was a meme a few years ago. Which is why I think people are hesitant.
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hey guys, i have 1200$ to spend on a minecraft computer, what would you recommend?
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>>61600455
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZVBjVY

total fucking cringe
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Worth it? I'd like to replace my 760, but cryptojews ruined it for everyone.
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Just realized I had this on for a month but I have no issue but I still feel the need to ask.

Should that sticker be removed or does it not matter?
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>>61606527
I mean, you can. Or not. Doesn't matter
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>>61606527
you're probably risking more by removing it honestly
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>>61606255
that is one expensive pc lol, have fun and also whats the most played game?
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many many years ago, there was a "build the worst PC you can for $1000" thread

some guy stuffed maybe $150 of impressively obsolete hardware into a really expensive case, then bridged the remaining gap in Newegg stickers

anybody got a cap of that thread?
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>>61606570
i raid in wow in the top guild in the country
before you laugh i assure you all your notions about how easy the game is to run are completely wrong.
2500k and 980ti sitting at 45fps in a city right now, can hit 80 in the new zones if there arent many people, on the pull in ToS i've dropped down to what felt like 1fps. Game scales like crazy with ddr4 frequency because ram speed is really part of "CPU bottlenecks", game gets stuck on draw calls because of the amount of shtit regularly going on.
just trying to get as close to 120fps in demanding situations as possible
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Ok let's say im really sick of my fx 8370 and i want a quick upgrade.
I only have 140€ to spend. i5 2500k + the mobo. Worth it ? Or i should just wait to have more money for rizen ?
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>>61606775
(its mainly for gayming)
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>>61606775
that's like a hardcore side grade. Some people even claim the 8370 beats the 2500k on average nowadays.
Sell your current shit, find a few more dollars, get a ryzen 5 or maybe a used 6600k(they're cheap af) and throw it in a h110 board(its still clocked way higher than a 6500, no need to OC really)
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Hello, can anyone help me?

I picked an old PC out of the trash and I was wondering if I should keep the 8600gt and buy an identical one for SLI or if there's a nice card I could use instead. It's got an Athlon X2 BE-2400 in it, what's the best I can get without bottlenecking? Preferably from the same year and Nvidia.

Pic related.
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Thinking of upgrading to pic relateds I have some Intel dual core rn and a dirt cheap board so which should I go with first cpu or board
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>>61606799
i expected people to say me to wait for ryzen, but ill have to wait untill 2018 at least. ryzen 3/4 are between 120-160 plus you need to add a motherboard AND ddr4 ram.
Need to spend at least 300€ for ryzen.
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>>61606803
It was in the trash for a reason.

Best you can ever hope to do on that is web browsing and something like Oldschool Runescape.
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>>61606811
>Intel LGA 1151 board
>AMD FX-6300 processor
Be honest, you don't have a clue what you're doing, do you?
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>>61606852
But if you have a PC you can sell and $140 you could 100% make something happen.
You're right about ddr4 so lets look at ddr3 platforms. 2500k sucks dick bare minimum you want is the 26/2700k but you could also look into used i5 and i7 4xxxk parts and throw them on a cheap mobo.
I 100% guarantee you if I were in your shoes I could end up with something way fucking better than a 2500k given the same exact resources.
Get on fucking ebay and figure something out nigger
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>>61606811
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>>61606811
kek
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I'm a bit incompetent when it comes to building a rig..
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NfnPBP

I know what gpu and cpu I want, the rest is unknown territory, especially the cooling issue, what fans do you need and what fits? Guide dosent say shit.
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>>61606875
Not in the slightest
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>>61606984
Gonma go out on a limb and say if I do an amd processor I need an amd board
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>>61606811
please educate yourself before posting

it saves a lot of embarrassing moments
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What is the most accurate benchmark comparing the r7 [email protected] with ddr4 3200 and the [email protected]+ghz with at least 3200?
There are so fucking many
It bothers me that there is a debate at all considering we should have access to accurate scientific information about their performance.
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>>61606984
>>61606998
Yep, and not just any AMD board. FX processors use AM3 socket motherboards.

Also, FX processors are garbage. Just because new AMD is good, doesn't mean old AMD is.
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>>61607030
Virtually all are accurate (except when it comes from Intel, All you need to do is look at their history of this to find why)
It comes down to what you do with the computer and what monitor you're using.
144 hz monitor for 144 fps gaming? 7700k.
Anything else, including streaming while gaming? Ryzen 7 1700

The 7700K is a one trick pony
The 1700 is like that gorgeous girl with heterochroma who's a world class cook, and a yoga instructor, while also holding a medical degree
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>>61606811
Looks good, you dont even need a graphics processor cpu anymore because the maincard has VR support
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>>61606960
Considering your budget, I'd suggest a nicer cooler like a large bequiet! or Cryorig (especially if you're going to overclock that space heater).

Also, I'd suggest an m.2 NVMe SSD.
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>>61607125
careful there last time i told someone that the OP is correct and that the 7700k is better for 144hz with sources 20 people spammed "shill"
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>>61607212
meh. If you aren't anal about FPS (and no one but Intel shills truly are), the 1700 is a better buy. hell, even if aiming for a 144 hz machine, I'd grab a Ryzen, simply because I refuse to support an anti-competitive company like Intel
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>>61607135
Money is not an issue, thanks for the tip. Quality is important to me and I don't want stuff that brakes easily. Not interested in overclocking (atm) becuase this performance is a huge step for me anyway. Missed out on gaming in the last 4 years or so.
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I accidentally smudged a tiny bit of the pre-applied thermal paste on my CPU cooler with my thumb because I'm retarded, should I wipe it off and apply Arctic Silver?
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>>61607486
depends on how bad it is

>arctic silver
If you have a better thermal paste you should just wipe it and use it.
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>>61607486
>I want coffee
>Should I brew my socks or instead use coffee I own?
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>>61606858

I wouldn't really care, it's mostly for old-school gaming

I have an i7 and an RX480 in my actual rig, this is just a project for funsies
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Rate my build /g/. I'm just going to play AAA games with at least 60fps/1080 on high and be able to render occasional Vegas projects.

The build costs exactly $800
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mQ2vyf
+ $40 mATX case + $5 fan hub

Is a UPS a meme or is a surge protector + voltage regulator combo good enough?
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Have GPU prices started to come down yet?
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>>61608246
I don't know how strict your budget is, but Ryzen 3 is essentially just a cheaper i5. I'd suggest Ryzen 5 4c/8t or 6c/12t if you're going to be rendering with any sort of regularity.

I'd also suggest at least a 1060 or RX 480/580 if you can find one cheap unless you're fine with medium settings 60fps/1080p. Ultra settings on a 1050Ti will probably keep you at a steady 40-50fps.

And 16gb is not a meme. I have 8gb on my laptop and my current desktop and it's frustrating.

>>61604708
I fucked up several things I posted, so pic related is exactly what I ordered and I have a Gigabyte RX 580 Gaming 4G already.
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>>61608246
get 2x4gb ram for dual channel.
get monitor with an ips panel. you may go a little over you budget but it's worth paying extra for something you'll be looking at few hours a day.
also
>play AAA games with at least 60fps/1080 on high
that's not going to happen with this build
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>>61608548
Going to back up what this guy said. 1060 over the 1050, and R5 1600 over the R3.

You could also look into getting an m.2 SSD over that 2.5" since your board supports it.
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>>61608548
>>61608602
>>61608689
Great points guys. My budget can actually allow me a spare $200. I'm probably going to up it to a R5 1600 and GSkill Trident Z 8x2 3200 (but there are no 3200mhz in the QVL which is weird). Unfortunately, even a 570/1060 is $300 dollars so the 1050Ti is more of a placeholder (half the price). Also, I might up the monitor to a LG 23MP68VQ which is an IPS with freesync (planning to buy an RX 580 when prices lower) unless you can suggest a better <$120 monitor. The SSD is fine I guess since M.2s are rare finds in computer shops here in the PH.
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What's the difference between Nvidia OC and GT OC?
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Can someone tell me what the point of the Bristol Ridge APUs is?

The A12-9800 costs 115€ here (which is even discounted from 144€).
http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/PC-Komponenten/Prozessoren-arlt/AMD/Sockel-AM4/AMD-A12-9800-Prozessor-Box.html

Why would't anyone just buy a G4560 (60€) and GT 1030 (60€) instead to get twice as much performance?
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I'm looking for a dual monitor arm anons. We don't have much options here in maple syrup land and the popular one seems to be this Vivo brand.

Anyone got experience with it or have any better suggestions?
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>>61609104
its for oems
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>>61607094
Any recommendations to upgrade from a Intel dual core and a shit mb?
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>>61609104
>Bristol Ridge

A cheap way to get into the AM4 platform. A placeholder if you like. I'd get an Athlon X4 950 (supposedly $59) with a GT 1030 on a B350 mobo, OC it a bit, then upgrade to Zen 2 in 2019. You can't do that with a G4560
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Initial steps of conceptualizing a Threadripper build. Very rough outline - thoughts?

>Threadripper 1950x
>(use the included default AIO cooler?? is this how I burn my house down?)
>1080 TI (leaning towards MSI Lightning Z)
>2x 16gb RAM - the X399 mobos seem to all support 8 slots however, so maybe 4x8gb is better?
>Asrock Taichi, but all the X399 mobos look fairly similar in terms of specs right now based on available info
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>>61609641
we don't know if it really comes with an AIO, but I expect it to be enough cooling for TR is it comes
siggraph is 2 days away, doesn't hurt to wait and see if Vega actually does a miracle, but yes, a 1080ti will last you some good time - what resolution/refresh rate screen are you planning to get?
get 4x8GB, ram in quad channel is bretty good
I think everyone should wait and see proper reviews of the motherboards, power delivery is an important thing for a processor that has high tdp
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>>61609641
More recent rumours suggest you only get an Asetek bracket, not an AIO. I'd get 4x8GB because >muh bandwith. The X370 Taichi is probably the best AM4 board now, hopefully the X399 version continues to be so. I'd have a lot of fun doing a Threadripper build - the RAM, the cooling, the BIOS, all that shit
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Did I do all right? Also, I have a dual band wifi adapter, and I'm literally getting 1-3 Mb/s when downloading FFXIV. What the fuck? Should I buy a powerline adapter?
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Owo what's this
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Look how cute it is
600w
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>>61610124
Nice anon, but why 1600x? Also, GPU?
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>>61610073
use an ethernet cable powerline adapters are hit and miss
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>>61610153
Using my old 7870 because of cryptofags
Ncase m1 coming soon
Just bench testing rn
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>>61610164
Why's that?
>>61610170
Just buy a 1080 Ti or Titan :^)
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>>61610073
What's your RAM? Change to the highest speed it can support in the BIOS

>wifi adapter
Drivers, router
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I had a a dream about my dream rig last night, again. I was trying to find an AM4 cpu cooler and went to frys and microcenter but none of the stores had ones that fit it.
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6 Years ago
>fall for some meme build by newegg
>computer plays all I ever wanted without bothering about overclocking

now
>gpu fans scratchy and loud
>8gb of ram not enough for games anymore apparently
>computer components now double in price

Even though I researched parts for months back then, I fell way out of the loop and now recoil at the thought of diving back in. I can't wait any longer, but I'm a miserly fuck. I'm guessing I should finally OC at this point, but how far can I actually push this build without buying anything new, in order to meet the standards of games today?
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>>61610216
you don't have enough vram. upgrade gpu and OC you should be fine
>>
what should i overclock a ryzen 1600 to?
>>
>>61610073
How is 1440p on that monitor? Do you need to use scaling? Am looking to get this monitor
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>>61609511
entirely depends on budget and planned workload
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>>61610267
3.8ghz
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>>61610267
The highest you can get on 1.35v stable
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>>61610195
RAM is DDR4 3000, 16 gb (one stick)


Wifi adapter is TL-WDN4800. It worked straight out of the box, so I'm assuming it's not a driver issue. Or is it?
>>61610298
It's perfect. No scaling needed.
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>>61610191
those got ridiculously expensive too.

Currently using a dusty 8800GT because i sold my R9 290 after more than 3 years for almost the price i got it for, so i can't really say i hate miners. Got to use a really nice card for 3 years for about 50 bucks, probably the best deal i ever made.
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>>61610267
3.5ghz for easy mode and good temps on stock cooler.

3.7-3.9 if you have an aftermarket cooler.
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>>61610191
Powerline adapters heavily depend on the wiring inside your house, if the router and your PC are on separate circuits/breakers or are far apart they don't work worth a shit
>>
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/kBr9zM
consistent gaymen pc that's supposed to last a while and can be upgraded when it no longer does, how did I do?
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>>61609735
>>61609757
guess 4x8 is the consensus then, thanks guys

yea obviously waiting for more detailed info on mobos. i hope the NDAs allow sites to do some reviews a couple days before 8/10 instead of having to wait till release.

>you only get an Asetek bracket
maybe ill just do air cooling then.
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>>61610255

Thanks, and I suppose I'll spring for a larger SSD too. Also, could you tell me if I have much to worry about with bottlenecking with a newer card?
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>>61610343
Should have gone with 2x8GB for dual channel. You can probably load an XMP profile in the BIOS. Ryzen loves speedy RAM and tight timings.

Definitely update the driver.
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>>61610471
should 3000 ram be oc'd to 3200?
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Is a 1060 3GB still not worth getting considering it's the only graphics card available for normal price?
1050tis are currently ~ € 170 - 200, 1060 3GB start at 200. 6GB version is € 100 more.
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>>61610518
different versions of the 1060 6gb dont seem to be more than ~30$ more than the 3gb, shop around more
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do i need to buy any extra cabling for a build, or just the parts and the case?
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>>61610496
Your RAM is currently running at 2133 CL15, which is absolutely slow. It's the default speed unless you change it in the BIOS. Download this QVL list

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/HelpDesk_QVL/

and if your RAM (check the model number) is in there at 2933/3000, means you can now OC the RAM. It's as simple as changing a setting in the BIOS
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>>61610496
If you can manage it, sure.

I'm running 2667mhz/15CL rated RAM at 3066/14CL.
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>>61610608
most mainboards only come with two SATA cables, so if you intend to use more than two SATA devices and don't have any cables flying around in your chaotic cable box you need to buy some extra. You don't need anything else, unless you got a retardedly big case and a PSU with short power cables, then you might need an extension.
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>>61610471
>Definitely update the driver.
Where can I find it for my adapter?
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>>61610124
How many toothbrushes do you go through every month?
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>>61610746
On TP-Link's website you mug. Literally the first result on Google search
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>>61610789
taking dental hygiene really serious is far less concerning than that i can't believe it's not butter guy though
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>>61610804
I tried OCing my RAM, but my ASUS mobo says OC failure.
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What's the Phenom II X4 955 of the current generation?
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>>61611074
This is what it says
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>>61611223
Turn the RAM voltage up to 1.4v.

Did you enable to XMP profile?
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new bread when
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someone please help me

i am trying to find a computer case that looks like the old stuff seen in the 90s/early 2000s. Pearl White/Beige. i was made aware of the HEC 7106WW but its out of production now

i want to make a sleeper build with that nice Win98 aesthetic. need to find an optical mouse too. gonna order a keyboard from Unicomp. already have a 21" CRT monitor, gonna use it with my thin bezel LCD monitor
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>>61611664
don't think you can get stuff like that new. Probably visit a local scrapyard and repurpose some old shit.
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>>61611223
>>61611280
Where do I find xmb? I have no idea what I'm doing

And dram voltage only says 1.35000
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