Windows 7/8/8.1 /general/

>But Linux Mint and Ubuntu are easy
Yes and also they are data collecting just like Windows 10, specially Mint which leaked the data of thousands of users and allowed a corrupted/malware iso to be hosted on their website because lack of security
Ubuntu improved since 14.04 by removing adware/spyware but still you can't be sure they won't do this again in the future.

>what about Antivirus?
contrary to popular /g/ myth antivirus software is essential on Windows and you can't rely on windows firewall either. This lead us to the ONLY solution: Internet Security(paid). There is simply no alternative.

How to choose your internet firewall+antivirus protection:
https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/
https://www.av-comparatives.org/comparatives-reviews/

Pirate Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB and fuck off.

>>61579560
>>>>>>r/Piracy/

>>61579560
>C:\Windows\AutoKMS to your antivirus exclusions.
>allowing autokms to connect to russian servers
Nah.

>>61579550
im in process on changing from a standard win10 version to either enterprise or back to 7

Problem is that editing software brands claimed their "windows 10 only", is this still true or i stick to LTSB?

BTW so LTSB doesnt have the botnets? not that i care since there might already be enough of my info archived but why is LTSB so different in that sense?

>>61579661
What specifically does antivirus have to do with networking?

Thankfully I already have been using 8.1 for a while. For me it's -the- Windows version, I don't care about the fisher price shit when there's a free software that replaces that perfectly and doesn't exactly leave that much of a footprint at all

>>61579661
AutoKMS shouldn't need to make any outside network connections...

>>61579740
>Problem is that editing software brands claimed their "windows 10 only",
It's false. It will work in w7/w8.1
>>61579740
>LTSB doesnt have the botnets
It has AutoKMS and almost all of the hidden data collecting that no service or firewall can block. It's impossible to remove all data collecting from Windows 10.

6th generation of processors, also known as Skylake work on windows 7 and 8.1 but the 7th gen has some problems..
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3008609/theres-a-patch-to-reinstate-windows-7-81-on-kaby-lake-cpus
>>61579781
Usually the anti-virus allow autokms to connect to the internet.. some software like Avast and Avira don't have clear firewall rules.

>>61579550
>>What about windows 10?
>you should never run windows 10. Telemetry and data collecting can't be disabled ever. As long as you connect to the internet you'll be sending data to Microsoft.
>>b-but there is a powershell comand...
>No. You can't. There are more than 146 data collecting bundled in windows 10 and it's impossible to stop it.

STUPID POO IN LOO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO INSTALL WINDOWS 10 LTSB

FUCK OFF

>>61579833
AutoKMS< KMSpico
Also, just use the kms and when its activated remove it. The activation will remain.

>>61579953
it still sends the key to microsoft servers

>>61579550
Oh no, a billion dollar company is going to single me out and look through all my stuff and see what im doing.

get real
the only people who are scared of win 10 and telemetry are tinfoil wearing conspiracy theorists and pedos with cp on their pc.

Win10 is a fantastic OS and the only real reason people would rather use linux to be seem hipster to people that dont care

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behold the birth of the windows logo

Windows 7 is actually better than Linux.

>>61579833
so i could actually move to windosw 7 again?!!!
autodesk and adobe nor ...whomever makes zbrush will cuck me?!!!
is there like a better option than 7 or LTSB?

>>61580756
/r/pctechhelp

>>61580756
gentoo

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>Normies didn't like this
I loved the home screen. It allowed me to easily see the weather and what not before I went into the desktop to do my shit. Open Source Windows when?

>>61579550
but what about muh dx12

>>61580936
Thank AMD for Vulkan

>>61579550
>spending money to use windows

>>61579555
>Linux Mint collects data
[citation needed]

>>61580965
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/richard-stallman-calls-ubuntu-spyware-because-it-tracks-searches/

Mint 17.x collected data by using a very unsafe yahoo extention with firefox which couldn't be removed

The team was (is) so degenerate if you removed

mint-search-addon

it would break your system

windows 7 and 8 boot really slowly on an SSD plus they dont support my 6700k and i need windows because i need games from steam

>>61581033
so use arch or antergos instead

>>61580923
>open source Windows
Wut

why are privacy people always alll uppity about it? what are you afraid of? what do you think the danger is in collecting your data?

>>61581050
Devuan > Salix > Gentoo > Antergos

>>61581085
>what do you think the danger is in collecting your data?
they sell it for billions of dollars and don't give me 1 cent
>he thinks Microsoft made 140billion dollars in 18 years by selling windows media player and windows XP

>>61581085
either retarded or doing illegal things.

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Just bought my new custom pc today and they installed win 10 with the purchase, did I fuck up? I have a win 7 pro dvd lying around.

Forced auto-update sounds dreadful

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I don't want to use Windows but muh games, I don't know what to do....

is elementaryOS a botnet too, or its safe?

>>61581409
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows8

>>61581562
>6 years in alpha receiving donations
what do you think?

>>61579550
>If you want to play older games
Actually, the older the game, the more likely it would run better under WINE than on a modern windows system.

>>61579550
For a lot of uses a vm works really well. Particularly if you only use an application or two. You can fire up the vm and do other things while your windows updates and restarts and updates etc. Also depending on the app a lot of the older versions might do the job you need on older versions of windows and you can take it offline. A bonus is the old operating system can run at modern speeds. Like win2k or win98 whatever running at 4gHz. Also ram drives work in a vm and actually access the ram. I get a lot of audio editing done in a win2k vm running the audio software in a ram drive.

This post and thread has a lot of
>literally the ONLY option
in it. When there are many ways to go about things if you are willing to experiment with the options available and not get caught up in various ideologies too much.

>>61581854
If you access the internet using windows and install games you must install antivirus and firewall
If you don't like video games and don't need video/audio software exclusive to windows you should never touch a windows os

>>61580164

it has more to do with not wanting microsoft to "update" your system when it runs just fine, but they do it anyway, and after they do, you've lost another 14 GB of storage on your device

>>61582078
>"update"
what do you think their doing?

Yes, Microsoft are awful for trying to release regular patches and security fixes along with new features and content.

Also, 14 GB updates?
What have you been smoking?

>>61582078
>answering to reddit users

>>61582078
It runs fine until you get pwned by some exploit that they patched months ago but you refused to install because you have some bizarre phobia of restarting your computer.

>>61582204
>exploit that they patched months
such as?

Just got a fresh install of W7, is there a guide to what I should be dicking around with after installing drivers? Essential programs, system tweaks, etc.

>>61582268
>is there a guide to what I should be dicking around with after installing drivers
Google
>Optimize SSD
if you have one
>Remove or don't install telemetry updates
Essential programs
>Antivirus
now go fuck yourself

>>61579550

>2017
>dual-booting

unless you have hardware from before 2013 or so (maybe earlier?) just use qemu with kvm and vfio support and get near native performance out of windows in a VM

gentoo isn't even required for this shit, use whatever linux distro you want

>>61581992
Hard to tell where you're coming from. If you're using an old version of windows, there's no need to connect it online.

I think you're trying to be instructive. I'm just talking about what I've found that works for me. I don't care what other people do. So I just say 'you can take it offline' and I suppose others have the sense to know that they definitely should'.

I fall into 'audio' part of your windows use case. Other than that I wouldn't touch it unless I worked somewhere that required it and then I wouldn't put any personal information in it or look up things for my own interest.

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>>61579550
i just installed windows 8. why is my harddrive at 100%? i'm not doing anything

>>61582729
Absolutely VM is good but most people that use VM don't play games or use editing on it
Most versions of premium audio software for windows have mac versions but no one really likes macos

>>61582761
nice bait

>>61582761
It's indexing your files for seach or defragmenting the drive. Both operations will get much faster if you let them run regularly.

>>61582791
what

>>61582799
i formatted the disk. is it indexing the windows files? there are no files other that what the installer did.

>>61582846
it's strange
Virtual machine?
You should have more than 1GB of ram and your Hard drive size is..?

>>61582846
hey man when i fiest switched to 8.1 i had the same issue update it and remove all telemtry updates after

>>61581409
I'm on 10 E LTSB and haven't been forced to update thus far, though it doesn't get much to begin with.

>>61579550
Windows 10 LTSB 2016 is the best version of Windows

>>61581035
>windows 7 and 8 boot really slowly on an SSD
you're bloated with something if you can't boot to desktop in 5 seconds with winlogon disabled

>>61581492
Dual boot

>>61582230
wannacry exploit got patched in march yet some lusers didnt have it

>>61579740
>Problem is that editing software brands claimed their "windows 10 only", is this still true or i stick to LTSB?
Depends. If your editing software utilizes DirectX 12, you will be missing any and all DirectX 12 features by moving away from Windows 10.
Other than that it should work just fine, but you won't get any help from customer support if you for any reason have issues with the software on another version of Windows.

>>61586325
dammit

>>61586381
You can still move to Win10 Enterprise LTSB, though, supports DX12 just as well as the other versions of Win10.

>>61579550
Unfortunately I am stuck on Windows because of some games that will not run on Linux + Wine is fucking awful. Considering on just dual booting when I build a new computer, highly considering something hackintosh because web development...

Wut do, anon?

>>61586398
but after license expires? it doesnt do all the ugly stuff MS says?

>>61586453
You're stupid if you're using the Evaluation version of LTSB/Enterprise. MDL has the real 2015 and 2016 isos.

>>61586453
As far as Enterprise goes, you won't have to worry about that because you have to crack it. I don't think you can even buy it as a private/consumer user without being a company.
See: >>61586462 MDL also has AutoKMS, you shouldn't download any of them from anywhere else, and still verify the checksums when you do.

>>61586447
KVM and gpu passthrough.

It works great especially if you build for it in mind.

>>61586447
Oh and also you will have a much better time running a hackintosh VM rather than on bare hardware.

>>61579550
This thread is retarded.
If someone really cares about their privacy they will have a separate normie machine running w10 for general stuff like work and gaymz and another machine running encrpyted linux for more private/sensitive things

>>61586493
>>61586519
Thanks. I'll definitely look into it.

>>61586539
>and another machine
nobodies doing all that bullshit.

>>61586566
Another thing, keep in mind regular dualboot always ends up going down like this for everyone.

>Hmm I want to change to OS n so I can run software y
>That means I have to close everything I'm doing, close my browser and exit any chat clients I have open to restart
>Fuck it, I just wont bother

>>61586680
Which is why GPU passthrough is superior.

>>61586610
Yeah, enjoy all your info being stored on ms/nsa servers

>nobody does that
Security concious people do it. I have 3 machines, 2 linux, 1 w10 laptop, if I travel or go somewhere I carry my w10 notebook, I am not worried about airport security, I am not worried that a friend will ask to use my machine to check their kikebook and accidently uncover my 4chan folder or even worse my waifu collection (or even worse...)
Only g babbies dont do it. I guess if you spend 100% of your time in a basement there is no need for it

>>61579550
>you should never run windows 10. Telemetry and data collecting can't be disabled ever. As long as you connect to the internet you'll be sending data to Microsoft.
Are you retarded? Windows phones home since Windows XP.

>>61586680
>MUH CHAT CLIENTS!!!

(you) weren't doing anything useful anyway.

>>61579550
>you shouldn't use windows
>you shouldn't use the only good OS available

>>61579550
>Telemetry and data collecting can't be disabled ever
False

>you'll be sending data to Microsoft.
That doesn't mean it's data mining...

>>61579550
>buying Windows
fuck off pajeet shill

>>61587083
>>61586957
>>61586855
google shills will never leave /g/.

>>61579550
Make sure you have the telemetry updates removed
https://gist.github.com/xvitaly/eafa75ed2cb79b3bd4e9

>>61582761
get 8.1 you malaka and disable useless services like indexing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uWbdfUXlL4
Learn it, love it, use it.

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>>61581161
Oh boy! This strawman again.

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Just use Windows 7 desu

>>61579555
Utter crap. Op knows nothing.

>>61579550
>windows 8 better than 7
fuck off
windows 7 has the best waifu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nngGGBkjMpU

>>61579555
what about mint? what do you mean leaked their data?

>>61580164
I don't run W10 because literally every person i know that 'upgraded' had their system brick and is either on Linux or windows 7/8 again.

>>61579555
>But Linux Mint and Ubuntu are easy
Yes and also they are data collecting just like Windows 10, specially Mint

Don't lie in the Internet.

>>61581035
>windows 7 and 8 boot really slowly on an SSD
Something is wrong. Both work without any limitations on SSD.

>they dont support my 6700k and i need windows because i need games
They do. You can use Windows 7/8.1 with Skylake without any problems whatsoever. Ignore Microsoft propaganda.

Yea Never use windows 8 or 8.1. Use 7 or 10.

"Windows 10 Whaaaat he just said its bad"

If you're a CP hoarder or are in that business then yes you should be scared of data collecting. No I'm not one of those "Nothing to hide nothing to worry about" people.

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>>61579550
>you should never run windows 10. Telemetry and data collecting can't be disabled ever. As long as you connect to the internet you'll be sending data to Microsoft.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services
>To prevent Windows from sending any data to Microsoft, configure telemetry at the Security level, turn off Windows Defender telemetry and MSRT reporting, and turn off all of these connections.

Do you really think that Microsoft is just flat out lying in their documentation?

Every single article I've seen about Windows sending "telemetry" data "even though we disabled everything" was done with wrong configuration.
The twitter guy (pic related) literally didn't even configure the main telemetry setting correctly and ran his tests with full telemetry enabled.
The voat guy thinks that toggling the basic options offered during setup counts as disabling telemetry.
Many others just say "we disabled it" or "we used this shitty tool we found on github".

Another thing worth noting is that not all network traffic is telemetry. There's also windows updates, certificate updates, time syncing, activation checks, driver updates, network connectivity checks, local network discovery, etc.

>>61587360
Right defending W10 makes me a google shill ok

8.1 a best

>>61579550
>forced
>"dude I NEED windows! League of Legends doesn't run on linux."
kek. you must be 18 or older to post on 4chan

>>61590145
Who are you quoting?

>>61589447
>The twitter guy (pic related) literally didn't even configure the main telemetry setting correctly and ran his tests with full telemetry enabled.
You clearly can't read and don't understand how Group Policy works. Setting that to disabled means random users can control the telemetry setting. Setting it to enabled means it's forced to use the Security setting, regardless of what the random user wants.

Which is a shame, since your post is decent otherwise.

>>61591799
I assume you've read the image wrong.
The left is what the twitter guy configured, which is wrong. The right is what he should have configured.

If you set it to disabled (or not configured) then random users can pick between "Basic", "Enhanced", and "Full".
Enabling it and setting it to "Security" is what you want to do.

>>61591863
Ah, my bad, you're right.
Ignore my previous post, your post is good.

>Windows 8/8.1 is slightly faster
Exactly where? For example all encode operations with (if cpu) Sandy Bridge/SB-E/Ivy-E or Piledriver and with (if gpu) novidya Gtx 660/750/980, are faster on NT6.1 (and in some corner cases they're faster on NT6.0, that is Vista/Server 2008). Same is true for zenver1, with 10 included, except maybe on some brand new software or a gaym.

Yes, 8.1/Server 2012 R2 is less fugly than 10, but that is not a great merit. Performance is another thing, but ui and ux have not improved from NT5.1 (we're not talking about fisher price theme - or the theme engine even - here, that could and can be disabled).

>>61579550
Any Windows but 10 is shit baka desu senpai

ITT: LTSB reddit shills tryingto meme windows 10

>>61579550
I need windows 10 in a vm.
Im not buying a 1 time use license key for a fucking vm that I may permanently loose all access to by changing one fucking setting
Im not buying something that I cant use on all of my computers at will.

what do? How does one activate the botnet without getting on someone elses botnet?

>>61587688
fuck off looncuck shill

>>61590145
>kek
Ok, you made me mad.

>>61594260
top kek