/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

>>61576850
americans are asleep

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>>61576850
I have my old busted up and worn down T420. It has
>core i7-2620m
>1600x900 screen

I bought a new Mint condition Thinkpad T420 that has
>core i5-2520m
>1366x768 screen

Since both CPUs are 2c/4t, is it worth the time and effort to swap out the chips? I mean I know the swap process isn't terribly complicated. Same can be said with the screen. Will a 768p screen offer better battery life than the 900p one? Is it even possible to swap the screens without having to buy more parts?

Just got my T430 i5-3320m 8gb ram 500gb with Nvidia GFX, my first thinkpad, and I am in love with it. Honestly has been far more capable than I expected and the screen hasn't bugged me as much as I thought it would, though of course I will be keeping an eye out for the Alienware replacement screen. Just wanted to thank you guys for the advice (even though I know a lot of you despise this device) and your overall help.

While i'm here, does anyone know anything I can do to take advantage of an unused ExpressCard slot?

>>61577793
wouldnt it be easier to just replace the lid and lower case and keyboard?
>>61577946
>ExpressCard slot
eGPU?

>>61578038

How hard is it to make an eGPU setup? I think I've got a slot in my x230i and I've got a 7870 I'm not using any more

>>61578098
you'd still need a psu for your gpu and the gdc beast.
you'd have to read up on it a bit

>>61577793

Just swap the cases?

>>61578038
>>61578201
Because the case on my old T420 is beat to hell. It's missing its Thinkpad/Lenovo labels. And the 2 "hooks" that keep the lid shut are broken.

>>61577793
i7 has faster iGPU, also additional 1MB L2 cache

>>61578280
what >>61578201
and I were saying was that you should replace the case/lid on your old thinkpad with parts from the new one

>>61578313
><150$
are you retarded?
Im talking about notebooks not ((netbooks))

>>61578337
kek wrong thread

Best cheap RAM for an x220t? I only have 4GB installed and it is NOT enough for my inefficient workflow

Does the 72w battery on the t470 make it a burden to commute with?

So I am on my 2nd charger and I just got the new one yesterday for my t420. The second one is starting to not work randomly. Is it chink chargers? like should I order a specific one?
Also the chargers pop very loudly when I plug them in and when they aren't working they no longer pop.

>>61578536
Depends on your bag(-sleeve).

I have both and normally use the flat one with the 72Wh for backup.

>>61578548
>>61578548
>chargers pop very loudly when I plug them in

That doesn't seem right.

Maybe your port shorts or something, causing damage to the chargers?

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Is there any way I can get rid of this botnet?
I have a X200 tablet.

>>61578548
dont :clap: chickshit :clap: your :clap: charger :clap: or :clap: battery

>>61578649
Its happens no matter where I plug it in. At my house, at work, in public, etc.
I just started to accept it as normal. Theres a chance the adapters themselves are fine, but the cable that runs from the port to the adapter seem to be shorting out or something.
>>61578698
I got the one with the best reviews and prime shipping on amazon and to replace the cheap as possible ebay one I'm replacing and it does it too.

So this isn't normal for thinkpad chargers and I have managed to find the same problem twice unluckily with two different products?

>>61578683
Call the phone number.

>>61578737
I generally wouldn't risk non genuine parts for the charger because many thinkpad chargers are interchangeable between models and finding a used but genuine cord off ebay isn't that hard or expensive.

>>61578798
Good point, I'll replace the new one next pay day and send the new one back.

>>61567020
pls respond

Can anyone recommend any good eBay sellers / Euro stores for batteries?
X220

>>61578630
How long does each last for you?

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does anyone know of any other cool mods for the x230t

please

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>this kills the thinkpad

So I have been searching for a cheap modern Thinkpad, and I've found a L540 locally for $125. On the bright side, it looks like it's in good condition. Unfortunately -
> Cheaper build quality (L-series)
> Celeron Processor
> 4 Gb's of Ram
> 768 Tn screen
> EC is missing the protective insert
Since Im planning on upgrading all of the parts anyhow, what should I offer him? 90$?

>>61580521
can you define "cool" for us first?

>>61581106
Why even bother? I doubt that processor is even socketed.

>>61581106
ULV processors for the L450 are BGA
In the end you get chromebook tier specs with some extra ports.

Not worth the money used when you can get a T420 or T430 for a bit more and properlt upgrade it fully.

>>61581187
It is
Due to the shitty cooling, the best processor I can put in is a i7 4700mq, which I plan on doing
I really enjoy working on laptops, so this is a wet dream to me

>>61581106
I figured my goal would make my initial post too long, but I'll post it here anyhow
I want to add in an i7 4700mq, a Gtx 970(egpu), a 3k ips screen and some more Ram. I want it to be a gayming station while docked, and I was planning on underclocking and disabling two cores while unplugged so it's a long-lasting laptop.

I just got my T400 in and I am surprised to say that it's more comfy than my X220T. I am a little disappointed in my X220T now. Is it because of the tablet design?

Has anyone with dedicated nvidia graphics tried overclocking their display?

90hz should be easily doable

Does anyone run Windows 7 on a T420? How does it compare in terms of performance to a fairly minimal Linux install?

I have:
>i7-2620
>16GB RAM
>SSD

Wondering if that's enough to cut it on an older machine. Curious in trying out Win7 again after years and I just came into possession of an SSD with it installed.

>>61581599
Didn't it come with Windows 7?
It'll perform fine. Those specs are good enough for even winbloat 8.1 to run smoothly

>>61582010
Cool, that's good to know.
And no, I bought it used without an HD. I prefer just using my own and cycling them through different machines.

>>61581533
probably? I find mine to be incredibly comfy, but a lot of that comes from the fact that it's a neat little laptop for bed and travel

X1C gen 5 vs t470?

for school

>>61581599
are you retarded or something?
Windows 7 just uses more ram than most linux distros, but cpu usage is about the same.

>>61582746
No, I mean when the T420 was new it shipped with 7

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Is there anyway to revert from win10 back to 7? I keep seeing all these good deals for t430s on ebay but they all have win10.

>>61583662
>>61583755
Yeah, I am kind of retarded and didn't really think that through. To be fair, it's been years since I even thought about Windows beyond casually skimming Win10 hate threads.

>>61583900
There are at least five I just saw after searching 'T430 Windows 7' on ebay, I would propose you try that.

>>61581599
It's fine anon - I set up a t420 for my wife and she is using windows 10, and that is the i5 version.

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So I decided to eat lunch at a nice restaurant near my office today, I'm bogged down writing this report so I decide to take my company laptop with me (T420 in mint condition).

I'm working away and enjoy my lunch when out of the corner of my eye, I see a figure walking towards my table. It's a guy wearing a fedora and a FSF t-shirt. He tries to strike up conversation about my T420, complimenting its excellent condition and 7 row keyboard.

I was so taken aback by this, I had an utterly shocked look on my face. So this is /g/ in real life. I wanted to remain incognito, so I said "It's my work computer. It's OLD".

He scrunched up his face with a look of utter disgust. I saw him walk away muttering something about "normies ruined ThinkPad, they don't know the joys of having a 7 row keyboard and a magnesium alloy rollcage..."

Decided to make a quick exit, on the way out I noticed him using a X60 with a libreboot sticker on it, running some sort of riced tiling WM with an anime wallpaper. He was arguing across the table with a Mac user. Overheard something along the lines of "Macs are locked down pieces of trash...Louis Rossman hates them"

>>61584150
With your talent for speculative fantasy you're wasting your time here.
Unfortunately, you're also wasting mine.

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Should I get a P51 with an i7 rather than a Xeon?

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>>61576850
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude
hey guys

>>61585110
depends on what you want to do

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What the fuck kind of keyboard layout is this?

>>61585495
the best one.

>>61585495
looks like some stupid euro shit
more specifically, its UK International, with the backslash on the left like that

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My X220 is making horrible whining noises. I believe it's coming from the fan. What do I do? I cant have my Thinkpad over the minimum performance level otherwise the fan revs and makes a whining noise.

>>61585771
Clean it, replace thermal paste, and check the CPU temperatute with RealTemp or a similar application, assuming you haven't done so already. Whiny fans are almost always a sign of heat. If everything turns up normal when your laptop is dust-free, perhaps your fan is failing; would replace it if you can get one cheaply. But that just sounds like overheating to me.

Is the ThinkPad 13 any good?

How is the thinkpad E570 with
>1080p ips display
>i5-7200U
>256gb nvme ssd
>8 gigs of ddr4 ram
>~€680 (grandpa can order it as a company purchase so I don't have to pay tax)

>>61587304
>e series
no

>>61587558
Nice argument. I really don't give a shit about modability if that's what you're going to say.

>>61587568
modability has absolutely nothing to do with it
it's about build quality.
E series are glorified consumer laptops wit the thinkpad logo on it

>>61587590
Shit build quality as in it will fall apart when using it normally or shit build quality as in I can't have an autism rage fit on it?

>>61587590
How does the L series compare? It's not that much more.

give me a reason not to buy the t470 when I travel over to the US, /tpg/

>>61587869
macbook pro with touchbar

Looking to buy a thinkpad for on the go programming.

Budget: around 150
Location: eastern cali USA
Size: doesn't really matter
Performance: just run my distro and visual studio and heavy browsing

Thanks guys.

I've got an old company T42 which I installed Ubuntu 11.something (isn't fast enough for anything later) on it...what do? any suggestions for actually making this laptop useful? tempted to just use it to learn the basics of Kali (yes i'm a meme)

Sup

How's KDE -with- composition enabled on an X220?

>>61587845
still shit
like the guide says t x w/p series only
>>61587618
as long as you treat it nicely it should last 5 years
but a normal thinkpad will last 5 years even if you're pretty rough.
>>61587996
t420/x220
>>61588249
put it on top of a powermac g4 thats on top of a powermac g5

>>61588488
>If you treat it nicely
Well of course. Thing is, I'm not specifically looking for a thinkpad. I'm just looking for a good consumer/school laptop. The thinkpad came out the best and the cheapest.
>Better build than your average consumer laptop (not saying better than something like t series)
>nvme ssd
>Great keyboard
>Fingerprint scan

just got the t420 i bought through the post and it's in real good condition (especially compared to my well used t61)
im a little overcautious to manhandle it and stuff
how dyou take care of a thinkpad?

>>61588690
>take care of a thinkpad
just get a macbook already

>>61588403
Well that x220 isnt 30 years old, is it?
That WAS an argument against KDE ages ago but youre not browsing the net with an apollo rocket anymore, are you.

whats the best thinkpad that has hdmi capability?

>>61588732
Well, I have a computer I use with the witcher 3 and I have issues with it, so I'm asking. Keep in mind this isn't KDE 3 either.

Excuse my newfaggotry. Some time ago they said they would maybe release "retro" Thinkpads. Any news? When is it gonna happen?

>>61585429
500 instances of Facebook and some light googling.

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every screw has been removed, but the left side of the motherboard won't budge. I do not know if it is that I am lacking to remove some piece, or that I simply am not pulling hard enough, but I don't want to yank on it like a gorilla

what gives?

btw the little flap that goes over the power socket is removed as well if you can't tell in the picture.

Do I just need to pull harder? every single screw has been taken out

>>61589203
http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/retro-thinkpad-its-alive

>>61589595
hold up nigga, the vga port. Don't pull just yet.

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>>61589668
how do I take it out?

>>61589695
Take the standoffs out.

Are key stickers on backlit thinkpad keyboards transparent or not? I want to buy a backlit keyboard and convert it into my country display with stickers

>>61589740
i genuinely don't know how to do that, please explain

I wish i were trolling, but the guy in the video just completely bypasses that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGHPWJXOris

>>61589773
Yeah because he's gay. The first time I disassembled my X220 I had to do it too and it wasn't mentioned anywhere either.

You have to take some small pliers and turn them as if they were normal screws. This is a thing you also have to do on certain PC cases in order to put the standoffs in a different position for different motherboards. Or if you want to somehow replace those on GPU coolers as well.

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>>61589773
always read the comments

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>>61589818
>>61589847
thanks black guys

time to get rid of that annoying burning smell and constant high fan

>>61589847
To be fair, reading youtube comments is a painful thing

>>61589595
x220t? vga port, needs 5.0 m bit

>>61589901
what are the idle temps to expect with an x220 tablet? I heard, from /tpg/, they get really fucking hot

>>61590279
I don't know, I just know that anything besides web browsing - WHIRRRRRR

but maybe it will be different now with some as5 on it. the stuff already on was really dried up, looked like it had never been changed before. that is something I think much of /g/ doesn't take into account. these corporate drones don't give a shit how hot the machines get or if they make noise, they just know how to turn the machine on and off. I highly doubt in-house techs at the corporate entities that buy these machines in bulk ever changed the paste - so when you and me get these the paste is already 5 years old

didn't mean to go on tangent though, i honestly never checked the temps. i just know it got to the point where it was discomforting against skin at times.

>>61578548
Just buy used OEM that aren't broken.
Not that hard.

>>61578698
Thanks m8

>>61578737
You got your charger from amazon? Funny thing my first charger was from Amazon and it ended up kicking the bucket after a year.
Stick with genuine OEM.
Those who give it a high rating probably source a new charger from the manufacturer's site, so they give 5 stars because 'its a great bargain'.

>>61582918
T470, it will be fine getting banged by your books and the ULV heatsink in the X1C will disappoint you with critical tasks.

>>61584150
Wonderful anon.

>>61589082
E570
Its shit tho
FYI display port and mini display port support audio and can work with an adapter (works well if you don't buy the cheapest adapter either)


Alright guys I'm off hopefully to finish up the dankpads posts...
>mfw no video on monday

>>61584150
So is this the next /tpg/ pasta? Seen this at least once before in a recent previous thread

Guy who bought a x230 tablet here need some help.

After upgrading everything with the Lenovo Bridge app, the keyboard stopped working, I clean installed Win 10 but it still isnt working.

I found out the issue is that it registers Fn key as "pressed" from boot, and it wont let me type since Fn is pressed (f8/f9 change the brightness)

The key itself isnt stuck so thats not the issue, right now to fix it I swapped it with Ctrl key in Bios menu and plug an external keyboard, press left Ctrl on it and it frees the key and lets me work.

I wanna try installing a older version of the Bios, someone here has an x230 tablet win 10 and can tell me what version he has?

Or should I just install win 7 and win 7 bios?

allright boys i got a question to you. I bought a used x220. Everything is fine with it, but the temperatures of cpu on heavy load reach 97 degrees. Will cleaning and putting new thermal paste on it be enough to lower them ?

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>>61587969

>>61590872
no it's fucked, let it burn

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If any of you are wondering whether it is worth the 2+ hours to repaste or not, it is. Runs completely silent now

>>61590872

see
>>61591030
>>61589901
>>61589773
>>61589695
>>61589595

>>61591030
what paste did you use?
I am looking to try something else than my trusty AS5.

>>61591053
thanks man, gonna do it tomorrow

>>61591155
soz, did use as5

>>61591166
gl, remember the vga things and don't waste time like i did. could have saved me about 20 minutes if i would have known that.

btw, I just noticed something unrelated. I only have been using the dock for the T430 as of recently, but used to always have it connected to the monitor and off to side with battery disconnected and lid closed +kb/mouse, but now with the dock the fan can't ventilate enough and it is noticeably whirring

It used to be just silent with as5 and the ssd.

Do you dual boot or do you delete windows completely?. If windows is still installed, is it possible that it spies on me, if the os is never running?
If I want to resell a thinkpad in the future without windows there are less buyers, or i have to offer it for less.

>>61591219
kek, thats fine.
Its just some say AS5 is 'too old and suxz'

>>61591255
No, it shouldn't be able to spy on you.
But I'd save the headache of partitions resizing, fixing, grub and all that stuff by just getting a different HDD or SSD to use.
Win OS on the 7mm 2.5" drive
Linucks on the mSATA/NGFF

>>61591293
Ok thanks.
The problem is, windows is installed on the ssd, and there is just one storage slot.
So i would have to buy a new ssd for linux, which would be idiotic, because i would have payed for an expensive for no reason.

best thinkpad for gaming?

>>61591421
I'd fully wipe it and reinstall for a resell.

>>61591436
The newest ones.
T470p with nvidia 940mx or p51 with a quadro.

>>61577793
I just got my X220T in from ebay, and the power port is fucked up, when it wasnt mentioned at all in the listing.

what should i say to get some money back from this?

>>61591450
I didnt know that this is possible without buying a new product key.
This is what i will do then, thank you.

Looking for a cheap laptop for my Dad for word processing and simple browsing. Looking at the guides it seems like a t500 would suit him. What's a reasonable price on a refurbished model? They seem to go around 120-150 on ebay with an hdd and windows installed.

>>61587869
Make sure you get the 1080p screen and an extended battery

>>61588636
You should be fine enough then

>>61588714
Just go back to >>>/r/eddit already

>>61592811
http://r.ebay.com/XzbDri

check through his listings, i just got a T520 for $90 shipped.

>>61591589
was it sold as is, or was it used 'tested in good condition'?
I'd ask for some change.

>>61592811
Get him a T520, T500 is a bit dated and power hungry compared to the T520.

>>61593039
>>61593088
Thanks lads, don't think he'll ever use it on battery but these look solid. Might get one for myself and throw an ssd in it.

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>>61576850
classic

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Who's a typical /tpg/ poster?
Serious question. As we all know number of /g/ users is pretty much always the same, and very rarely new people join our circlejerk. So what are people doing here for all these months?
Seriously, I barely visit /g/ anymore because of the same fucking shit being reposted 100000times. How can you people sit here all damn day?

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is the thinkpad t420 a good deal at $175 refurbished?

I have an x220t. I'm limited to DDR3 RAM, right? I'm assuming DDR4 isn't backwards compatible. Also mSATA SSD or a 2.5in one?

>>61593617
You could go lower but I'm assuming you're getting it with a warranty? What specs

>>61593669
Why there are people like (You) who prefer shitting this thread with repetetive stupid questions instead of spending 15 seconds on finding this specific information on google?
Don't get defensive, I want to understand why poeple like you keep posting here.

>>61593669
Anon even ddr3 and ddr3L aren't compatible
Yeah you're limited to 16 gb of ddr3

>>61593496
Shit bait.

>>61593809
You haven't answered my questions.

>>61593797
Crucial's website says DDR3L modules will work with the x220. I'm a little confused

>>61585979
Well I bought it refurb and just assumed it would have been thoroughly cleaned. It idles at 52 C on the lowest battery manager settings.

>>61593851
>>61593797
Whoops had a slight brain fart
I wanted to say ram is voltage sensitive you can't even use ddr3 and ddr3L together (as in one in each socket) so yeah ram isn't backwards compatible

>>61593840
You posted a shit picture and a shit question
Post thinkpads instead

>>61593929
Of course you can. Most RAM sticks on the market support both 1.35V and 1.5V voltages.

>>61593945
Still haven't answered my questions. Can you read, fellow black man? Do you understand what I'm typing to you?

>>61593950
Not really
I've yet to see ram that runs at both 1.5 and 1.35
Mind posting some?

>>61593964
Go answer your own questions pajeet

>>61594029
Oh, that's very nice. So a typical /tpg/ poster is just a retard. Congratulations.
>>61593989
Corsair Vengeance 2133MT/s. Supports both 1.5V and 1.35V.
Kingston HyperX Impact 1600MT/s. Same.
Cheap OEM Samsung ones I had in t430 - also spec doc says both 1.35V and 1.5V is supported.

Anyone here familiar with Dell E6430? I bought one and it didn't come with a trackpoint.

>>61594063
Neat I guess

>>61594063
>>61593989
>>61593950
I'm seeing reports that the x220 underclocks low voltage sticks. Is that sort of performance hit noticeable

>>61594063
Well anon if we don't bite into bait every now and then we'd have bait posters like you leave

What fun is 4chin without bait everywhere

>>61594107
No, it doesn't. It "underclocks" 1600MT/s and higher modules to 1333MT/s because of lenovo shitty BIOS restrictions. It has nothing to do with voltage.

>>61594107
Honestly the savings from low voltage memory doesn't even make that big of a difference either way

>>61594143
it's not about power savings, it's about heat.

>>61593768
from thinkpad depot

Operating System
>Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit
CPU
>Intel Core i5 2nd Gen
>2.5 GHzScreen14.1″
Memory
>4 GB
Storage
>250GB
Optical Drive
>DVDRW

>>61576850
Is t530 screen really terrible ?

Hey guys, what's the best site for buying laptops in Germany?

>>61594958
Germany? You mean the country where concentration camps were built?
Ebay, I think. Anyway, gas yourself.

can i scroll using two fingers on the touchpad of a thinpad (t420) like i'm pretty sure you can/do on other laptops?

>>61594592
what are people specifically referncing when they say terrible?
and does it apply to the t420 (1600x900)?

>>61595114
yes, you can. Keep in mind trackpoint scrolling is much better.

>>61595174
t420/t430 stock screens (both resolution options) are the worst screens available in all business laptop segments.
T530 screen options are a different story.

>>61595174
ITs fit with 1366 x 768

No that sounds lovely bastar

>>61595175
sorry could you explain how to do both?
and why's trackpoint better? just easier

>>61595191
again though, worst in what way? (my t420 that i just got seems like i can see the individual pixels sometimes if i look long enough, is that what you mean?)

>stock screens
how would you/what screen would you get as an upgrade (for a t420?)
thanks

>>61576850
Disappointed with the performance with my X200, forgot the specs, probably 4GB RAM with a dual core CPU.
How much more can I upgrade this thing? Pretty sure the screen is TN too.
I can hardly find parts on eBay in the UK.

>>61581533
Original X220 is amazing, never used a T400-series though, plan to save up for one once I get a job.

>>61581599
??? You should be able to run Windows 10 easily.
You don't need 16GB of RAM for that either, it runs well on 8GB. and the i5 version of the T420 also works out on Windows 10.

>>61585495
It's a United Kingdom layout keyboard.
Different from the European layout also, since you have a dedicated "£" accessed by shift-pressing 3.
You 'muricans have a shit layout in my eyes.

>>61585712
I fucking hate ANSI when I have used ISO my entire life. God fucking damn it, but I can't argue with it since ANSI is cheaper than ISO.

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>>61592884
>>61588690

Don't use it like a retard? Stop jizzing on your keyboard, don't type with greasy shit-stained fingers, stop having autistic fits and dropping the laptop and stop being fat and sitting on it.

>>61595021
Why would I gas myself?

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I don't know about you guys, but when I carry a thinkpad, I make sure it has IBM on it.
There is nothing more awesome than carrying the name of the Big Blue.

>>61595843
because this is what germans deserve everytime they try to falsify their history.

>>61595843
Can you replace the stock screen on t530 with 1080 screen Herman friend ? I don't think u should gas yourself but the others

>>61594546
Seems fine
Don't forget to upgrade ram though when you get it

>>61596004
>nothing more awesome than not being able to run anything.
Move on dude.

Looking for a WWAN card for the X200 that supports LTE, cant seem to find any that fit in with the 2 SMA connectors the Thinkpad uses anyone know one to share?

>>61596016
I never said I was German.

>>61596397
the antenna plugs? aren't they the same as the wifi card antenna plugs?

Hey /tpg/, which is more durable? The t420 or t430?

>>61596155
This laptop ran Windows XP smoothly. Are you saying that you can't run a GNU/Linux distro smoothly? C2D is totally usable and besides there are those mods to get newer CPU on those machines.

>>61596921
Yeah, also t-mobile lte, forgot to say, it's two sma plugs on the x200
>>61596921

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>>61596971
Plz answer?

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How's my T420 doing /g/?

Any tips on swapping a t530 screen for a 1080p ? I've read a guide and it seems easy. Also any bargaining tips for buying used lappy ? Looking at a t530 for 200 bucks with good battery and charger included
Hope the guy doesn't browse here or I'm ruined

Been researching eGPUing my thinkpad.

What is the point of this? Fiscally it doesn't really seem like a good idea unless you already have all of the components just lying around but can't be bothered to make a tower out of them.

Is it one of those "I have done this because I CAN" things?

>>61598728
PRetty much or out of necessity and with opportunity

What size SSD should I get for my boot drive?
I'm a Windows guy but I'm open to trying Linux
X220

>>61598792
I have necessity, I just don't have cash. It hurts.

i have an opportunity to buy a lenovo yoga 720 with 8gb ram, 256gb ssd and an i5-6200U for $250-300. are they any good? if so, this is a really good deal. should i keep it? flip it? turn it down?

and what about the E series? there's a lot on my local craigslist from people who have no idea what they're worth so i can get them for like $100-$150...but are they any good?

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>Seagate ST2000LM015
>2Tb
>£0.40/Gb

Too good to be true?

>>61598728
yeah thunderbolt adapters are way too expensive. they might get cheaper in the future now that manufacturers don't pay as much (anything?) to intel per unit.

an expresscard adapter is $50, a good psu $10. that's not a bad price (before card) to make an old thinkpad run games *fairly well* that it couldn't before. dollar wise it helps if you already have the gpu laying around. ask a friend if he's getting rid of an old card. if you have to spend money on a card, just get a 750 ti or 1050 (with older driver). anything better is wasted on the single pcie lane

>>61599018
I think that's the best you can get for a laptop.
But hybrid hard drives are shit.

>>61599289
Yeah wish I knew a guy but no such luck. My budget just can't accommodate that sort of purchase, but it also can't accommodate just getting a better thinkpad either.

My T420's CD tray keeps opening randomly. The light for it also flashes all the time, even when it doesn't decide to open. Anyone else have this problem?

>bought a libreboot T400
>NOTE: on some Thinkpads, during boot, a faulty DVD drive can cause the cryptomount -a command to fail, as well as the error AHCI transfer timed out (when the Thinkpad X200 is connected to an UltraBase). For both issues, the workaround was to remove the DVD drive (if using the UltraBase, then the whole device must be removed).
>tfw affected by this issue
o-okay, I guess I'll just remove my dvd drive then

>>61600579
known problem, if you flex the case at all the cd tray will try to open. I recommend just disabling the cd tray on device manager outside the rare times you'll actually use it.

>>61576850
bump for /x220/

>>61584150
>/g/ going outside

I'll give you a B for effort.

>>61577946
Nice
Care to list what games run decently with dGPU?
How does CS GO run?

>>61591155
Artic mx4

>>61583900
Just wipe the drive and install windows 7.

Do you even computer before?
Windows 10 doesn't completely lock down your hard drive from being wiped for a new OS you know

>>61585164
What laptop?
Specs?
How is screen?

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>>61576850
>tfw no retro thinkpad

>>61600834
I did this and it improved my thermals by 4 degrees Celsius but it still turns into a jet engine
and yeah I did go into power management settings and it's on the lowest
>T510

>>61587996
>Performance: just run my distro and visual studio
Visual studio is on linux?

>>61588249
Get an SSD

>>61590503
T470 is ULV too though isnt it?

>>61591155
Prolimatech PK3

You have aluminum laptop. Now have aluminum cooling paste

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>mfw going back to my w520 trackpad after using a macbook

>>61594592
Depends which one
The 1080p screen is one of the best laptop TN panels around
The 900p/760p ones are bad

>>61595300
>and why's trackpoint better? just easier
You just hold the middle button and push the trackpoint down. No needing to keep swatting your mousepad like a cat to keep scrolling.

>>61595466
SSD

>>61598728
For me it's handy for going to my buddy's house and playing vidya without unplugging my desktop tower and lugging that around

Just far more portable

If you arent bringing the setup around eGPU doesnt have much purpose unless you have little money and cant afford to have both a fancy gaming computer and a laptop

>>61600579
Replace cd drive with empty bezel for weight savings, or with a hard drive caddy

>>61600917
>going back to a thinkpad
>using the trackpad at all
What were you thinking?
The clit is there for a reason
Use it

>>61600988
the clit is fucking shit and has a polling rate of like 5

anyone who legitimately uses that shit is trying too hard to fit in

>>61600964
Right now I'm trying to afford to even having a laptop. I don't have a desktop anymore, I don't even have a desk!

I've been using a T61 exclusively for nearly a decade, I've never been able to improve, I've never been able to advance. I love tech but cannot afford anything, I do not even own a smartphone. It hurts so much sometimes.

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Why don't ThinkPads have clicky trackpad and TrackPoint mouse buttons like a traditional desktop mouse? My 1080p and SSD'd T510 is pretty much perfect for what I want it for, aside from the shit battery life and the crappy mouse buttons, you don't know when you've clicked them or not.

>>61600855
e6410
not really. res is good though. 1440x900.

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>>61600855
>>61601213
specs. upgraded ram, hdd, and cpu.

>>61578683
Libreboot

>>61578683
Give it back jamal

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just ordered a refurbished thinkpad t420.
what should I do first to it in terms of software or OS? Did I buy a /g/ meme?

>>61601334
Install Gentoo unironically

>>61599018
Don't buy it. It works reliably only via UASP bridge. Also head crash happen very often due to how this disk is built.
Unless you're going to use it as a dock HDD which is never moved around then avoid it.

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>>61601049
And that polling rate is enough for you to navigate around your graphical interface. What did you want? To play games on your Thinkpad?

Mouse > trackpoint > greasy fingers on screens > capacitive pens > > > trackpads

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kinda /tpg/, kinda linux. my x201 has had wireless issues before and I replaced the wireless card. Now I'm having issues again. Here's the output of "iwconfig" and "dmesh | grep -i iwlagn"

I know this is the most annoying way to do this but I can't find my usb rn so I think the picture is honestly the most effect method.

Does this mean my drivers are broken/installed correct or that my wireless card is broken? I see 'drivers' in that long file location.

Trackpoint is shit senpai

>>61602262
it's linux, not tpg.
Get out with this autistic shit.

>>61602675
It's also a review of x201. Several of my wifi cards haven't worked. That's a negative review.

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>>61602732
Works on my machine™

>>61600825
Take a GPU, cut its performance down to 3/4
750ti turns into GT740, 980ti turns into 970, etc
DGPU is a bottleneck but not too severe

>>61595021
>>61596016
t. Butthurt jew

I hope another holocaust happens so we can fully clear you kikes off the face of the earth for good

>>61596971
Pretty much the same

>>61602982
Thanx!

>>61602971
Keep dreaming, ahmed. So far germany is being infested with islamic rapefugees, feminists, fags, pedohpiles and other degenerates, and you can't stop it.
And it you stand a threat to us we got lots of nuclear warheads we can use against you.

>>61598728
Basically yeah
I've been thinking about my egpu the same way
For the price same price I could've built a tower easily that outspecs my thinkpad

I guess it has the benefit of keeping everything in one system

>>61595021
>>61596016
>>61603027
>>>/pol/

>>61600893
Yeah but it's not thin and dumb like the x1c
So it doesn't throttle under load for extended periods

>>61602865
Anon you're talking about the egpu
>>61600825 asked about the dgpu
Also benches (passmark) says it's around as good as a 730m so if you really want a gpu internally it's okay I guess

'like new' T460, i5-6300u, 256GB SSD, 8GB DDR3 RAM, FHD IPS & 2 year on-site warranty for €450. Was my offer to high?

http://www.storebattery.com.au/thinkpad-t430-11.1v-cell-australia-lenovo-notebook-computer-original-batteries-p-32034.html

Whats the chance this is real? And if it is, will it have shit capacity because its been sitting in the back of a warehouse for years?

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Am I edgy enough?

I'm thinking about buying a X220 with an i7. How is the fan noise while doing light word processing ?

Recently bought my t430
But my battery lost half of it's capacity so i need a new one.
Is the 9 cell worth it? (buying oem ofcourse)

>>61604308
It's heavy, but it gives you about 50% more capacity. It's a tradeoff, whether you want to make that tradeoff is something you get to decide for yourself.

>>61603852
>not IBM thinkpad
not edgy enough

>>61580798
not really
a simple screen swap would fix that
its not, killed, beyond repair

>>61603852
>porcorosso
>calcipher
>no face
>xfce

are you 12?

>>61589595
have you tried looking at the hardware mainteance manual

getting the western digital ssd for my t420 and should i need a spacer that is 7mm or 9mm? sorry for dumb question but keep seeing 7 or 9.

>>61604497
the apple one

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What's the most practical and common thing to do with the ExpressCard slot?

>t470p
>hey, this one looks quite g...
>no type c

O-oh.

Are there only business class notebooks with quadro cards? I would prefer a normal gpu for muh gaemdev.

Does anyone have a copy of the default x230 BIOS splash screen?

>>61605007
I could extract it from mine.
How to do it ?

>>61603852
Stally sticker where?

>>61603852
I too want to believe my friend

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1440p thinkpad with an AMD cpu without a shit battery life when?

>>61605753
good question, mr dangleben

>>61605760
Yea, I'm an idiot. You know I made a cropped version before too and chose the wrong one.

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>Live in Brooklyn
>Your package was left near the front door or porch.

Why did they throw my package away /tpg /

>>61602262
are they lenovo branded wireless cards? because they have to be

>>61604981
T470p

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>>61604906

>>61604542
The spacer is for 7mm drives so you don't need a new spacer

>>61605999
That's actually really neat

>>61604946
>new thinkpad
>chiclet
>mobile gpu
>more than 500 dollars US
>it looks quite /g/
I don't think you know what that means anon
Also USB c doesn't mean shit it's a meme connector if it's using the USB protocol
You gotta get thunderbolt

>>61605007
Just turn off quiet boot
Then you get no splash screen

>>61605995
If I had 2000€ to spend on a laptop I wouldn't be in this thread.

>>61605522
All of those exist separately anon

>>61604981
>>61606325
Then T440p with a 730M

Consumer laptops that aren't made by Apple are invariably garbage

>>61606496
This is a business laptop thread anon

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What's this? It drives me insane.

It's Windows 8.1 on T420. Lenovo's website is a fucking mess.

If I buy a refurbished t520, how long can I expect it to last? Looking for something to use in an office for word processing and browser use only.

>>61606765
Have you tried right clicking and letting Windows update try to find the driver for you ?

>>61606806
Yeah, doesn't work.

Windows found most of the drivers (WiFi was working natively, iGPU updated itself, Fingerprint reader worked natively and similar bullshit).

I only had to manually update the Multi Card Reader and the Ericsson Mobile Broadband thing (and the SSD by choice for optimisation).

I still don't know what this is, there's no chipset driver on Lenovo's website, so I think maybe it's that and I need to get it from Intel's site. I hoped some Anon here knows (tried googling around forums also)

>>61606765
>>61606896
Nvm, sorted it.

>>61606765
card reader, intel me, and some other thing isn't picked up by windows update.
just install random drivers until you figure it out
>>61606779
define last.
I saw someone post online that they where still using a powerbook g4 to browse the web and type documents.
I couldn't even get my 2006 macbook pro to not be laggy as shit on the internet, and my powermac g5 and g4 where unbearable. But somehow that person did it.
now realistically 10 more years easily once you upgrade the ram, and ideally get an ssd to make it feel fast again.

>>61607155
>define last.
Just be functional, not blazing fast or anything. Preferably not laggy with Internet usage as you said.
My dad uses some Dell desktop from the 90's, so I'd like to get him in the 21st century with something he could use until he retires, but he's got another 10 years until then at least.

Anyone with an X1 Carbon can comment on its battery life? Thinking about getting a Gen 3 X1C.

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Can I go ahead and flash my BIOS without risking a brick? (I'm using a custom BIOS splash image)

>>61605812
Well mr benis, I think it's because people get pissy if they have to redeliver the same package.

I normally get stuff stuffed in the shrubs under my front window.

>applying for jobs
>local scrap place wants laborers
>I can totally labor
>walk in, mountains of old computers
>some newer shit too
>walk past a system with a zotac 780ti in it
>another with what looked like 10 or so WD reds
>but wait, what the fuck is that
>in a pile of old beige machines I see an old thinkpad
>after I get a paper application I ask the guy if I can see it
>sure, we go an dig it out
>its a fucking 701c
>the keyboard still works
>its in great cosmetic shape
>visibly having a nerdgasm at this point
>ask the guy if I can buy it off him
>he says they can't sell anything, it legally has to be destroyed
>die a little on the inside, and a bit on the outside
If I get this job I'm stealing it. I dont give a fuck, I would literally kill for a 701c, no jokes. Give me a name and pay me a 701c, anyone you want is dead.
Fuck me

>>61607800
>701c
TAKE IT ANON HOLY SHIT

>>61605522
Pretty soon actually anon
Lenovo showed off some new A series laptops with Raven Ridge APU's recently
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-may-be-planning-an-AMD-ThinkPad-lineup-with-Raven-Ridge-APUs.237028.0.html

>>61607816
I seriously debated grabbing it and booking it
But I need a job anon
I get kicked out in 2 months without a job

Knowing its going to be tossed into a shredder is physically painful to me

will mSATA ssd accomplish the same as an regular ssd would?

>>61607871
Prety much

>>61607754
Problem is I'm a nigger. The USPS guys are niggers. All my neighbors are niggers. It's in our blood we can't help stealing. So why leave that shit on the porch. This is worse than one day shipping with lasership.

Anyone do any react native stuff? Would a t420 be good enough for react native development?

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My new thinkpad T420 finally came! Came with a WD blue 500GB hard drive. My current thinkpad has a 500fb WD as well along with a 256GB mSATA SSD. Should I just go with 2 hard drives in this new T420? Or use my ultrabay to have 2x500GB HDDs and the 256GB SSD?

Or should I just keep the DVD drive and run 2 hard drives only? Is a DVD drive even useful when on the go anymore?
I intend to fully encrypt the mechanical drive(s) via veracrypt anyway.

>>61576850
Poor Europoor user here, needing a good cheap Thinkpad (with classic keyboard) for typing.

Found a X201, with 6GB, 240SSD and a spare battery (new) from a local auction site. No clue if it has an IPS screen or not but I don't really care too much about. It looks to be in excellent condition.

User is selling it for €160; how much should I get it down for?

>>61608885
That's pounds or euros? Either way, see if you can get the seller down to 120 of your funny money. IPS screen or no, try not to pay more than $100 for a used thinkpad. Especially one that old. That new battery is attractive though.

Bought a T430 8gb ram, 256gb SSD, i5, extended battery for 200. Did I get a good deal?

>>61598248
Bad.

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>>61608746
>2017
>year of Mars colonization, 4d waifus, gnu/linux and 72 thread desktop cpus
>still using spinning drives in mobile computers
>not going full SSD
Shame.

I need a new laptop today guys. I have to settle for Walmart or Best Buy. What are my options? I would just get another cheap meme pad for Amazon but I'm in kind of a bind rn

>>61609209
I mean I could, but why? The mechanical storage drive would simply be for backup and storing data I don't want compromised God forbid the laptop is stolen. Again. The SSD is only for speedier response time and boot. Thinking I'm going to go with 2 hard drives, keep the DVD drive, and turn the spare 500GB mechanical into an external with a $20 usb3 enclosure. Use it as offline backup for the laptop.

>>61609269
Whatever is cheapest that meets your needs. Don't care about owning the laptop for more than a year? Acer usually has the best price:performance ratio but their build quality is trash. My buddy's Acer aspire with 4th Gen i5 and Nvidia 850m in it is still kicking without issue but the plastic is worn to shit. He spent $459.

>>61609326
I'm not saying you shouldn't use mechanical drives, I'm saying you should not stick them INSIDE your laptop.
Get yourself a docking station and connect your HDD to it. Then use it for automated backup or whatever the fuck you want.
Otherwise you're risking damaging the drive and losing data if you drop your laptop.
Not to mention the comfort of having 100% quiet computer with nothing spinning inside... maybe with exception of the fan, but you can easily mod your t420 to almost never spin it up.
Then there is also hardware encryption with no possibility of cold boot attack and no impact on cpu use.

>>61609421
Cold boot and ABC agencies aren't my priority when encrypting. It's Jamal's and other such thieves. I've had my laptop stolen once with nothing but a password on it. Never again. As for CPU load, that's irrelevant to me. I'm not encrypting the boot drive. Only storage. Nothing important other than OS boot files and programs are on the SSD.

I see what you're saying but eh. Maybe I could... Maybe I'll add the 2x500GB drives to my file server as dedicated mobile backup space?... One for redundancy.

>>61609083
What currency? If it's £, I got mine for £175 with the same specs and an offical 6cell battery. Looking to upgrade it soon with an i7 3632qm and Alienware screen.

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>>61609489
Did I mention possibility of putting two SSDs into RAID0 array to get 1GB/s read/write speeds?

Unless you do nothing more valuable on your laptop than shitposting on /g/, then it's pointless.

>>61609518
Hmm. You have tempted me /tpg/ anon. I'll probably do another SSD in the main drive bay. I'm already looking at 3.5" to 2.5" HDD bay adapters to add the 2 laptop drives to my server.

>>61609209
>not having the priviledge to nuke all information with a magnet when FBI knocks on your door
Looking at you polish HP 2570p poster. Remember Kickass torrent.

>>61609632
Wew lad, read about security erase and how it works in SSDs, especially the certified ones (ie. Intel).
protip: cryptopgrahic keys are being purged in a matter of seconds. Plus trimming unpartitioned disk takes about 40 seconds.
And you should recheck your facts, as magnet will definitely not destroy any data on a mechanical drive. Worst it can do is cause head crash, scratching platters a little, but it's still recoverable.
>Kickass torrent
I don't use torrents, nor pirate any shit.
But losing local copy of all my documents, banking history, passwords, browser history and dick pics is something I'm worried about if I ever lose my computer.

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Does anyone has any experience in removing the supervisor bios password from thinkpads? The specific model in question is T400.

From information I've collected from random forums and youtube videos, the trick is getting access to the bios by shorting the SCL and SDA pins on the EEPROM, then resetting the password.

The T400 was bought around 6 months ago by a friend who never bothered to check if the bios was accessible at all untill now.

>>61609421
>Then there is also hardware encryption with no possibility of cold boot attack and no impact on cpu use.
It's pretty much impossible to trust hardware encryption. No way to tell what it's actually doing or what flaws it might have.

Thinkpad Retro WHEN??!! I'm getting impatient over the lack of recent news

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>>61609753
>Wew lad, read about security erase
Easy :^)

sudo rm -rf / --no-preserver-root

>as magnet will definitely not destroy any data on a mechanical drive.
I suppose this is being a b8.
>I don't use torrents, nor pirate any shit.
The point I brought Kickass torrent up was that he got van'd by the FBI while he being in Poland. Thanks to Apple respecting his privacy and not leaking any data.
>>61609929
It will be a piece of shit.

>>61609879
>It's pretty much impossible to trust hardware encryption.
Somehow big corporations trust it and everyone's fine. If it wouldn't be fine such terrible cases of confidential data loss due to shit implementation of hardware FDE would be immediately publicized.
And yes, some SSD producers like Kingston or any chink brand are insecure in that matter. That's why I'm using certified Intel SSDs.
>No way to tell what it's actually doing or what flaws it might have.
I don't have to know that. I'm not protecting myself from the government, which (I presume) already has all my data. I'm protecting myself from nigger thieves who by any chance could be intelligent enough to extract encryption password from RAM and use it to steal my data. Which, by the way, is very simple.
And if you know about any known attacks (fixed or unfixed) against intel encryption then please share with me. Oh wait.

>>61609209
>2017
>still using shit tier 1066mhz ram
Shame.

>>61609957
>Easy :^)
I don't think you understand what security erase procedure is.
Ever heard of Service Area on each platter/nand module? Spare blocks? SLC caches? Wear leveling?
You clearly don't.
>--no-preserver-root
more like --no-preserve-root
>I suppose this is being a b8.
I suppose you're fucking stupid.
To PARTIALLY CORRUPT data on mechnical drive you'd have to create high frequency ac magnetic field, which you won't, as you're too poor to own any relevant hardware to do so. Kill yourself and stop spreading FUD.
>The point I brought Kickass torrent up was that he got van'd by the FBI while he being in Poland.
Nice. So?
Do you really think I'd """""secure""""" my data against government in such way? Did you even read anything I've produced above?
>while he being in Poland
Speaking about poland, did you know that it's 100% legal to download pirated movies/ebooks/music/anything-that-isnt-software in Poland? Yes it is. You just can't share it (like via torrent seeding)

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>>61610018
>2017
>still being too stupid to know the difference between MT/s and MHz rating
Kill yourself.

>>61610096
>>61610018
#rekt #shotsfired

>>61608746
Use all 3 anon

>>61609499
In dollars so pretty much the same price. Also looking forward to upgrading to i7 down the road. Don't know much about hardware is it an easy swap?

>>61602015
Good to know, I'll get something else then.

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>>61602015
What about this one?
Seagate ST2000LM007
(it's not a hybrid)

>>61607858
what they dont know, wont hurt them.

>>61610734
>>61610679
Same shit. If it's dual platter 7mm seashit drive don't buy it.
Samsung M9T 2TB 9,5mm is the last 2TB drive you should use in a laptop. It's still seashit, but at least made by competent samsung engineers.

>>61610808
>Still falling for the Seagate is shit meme

>>61610832
seagate consumer trash IS shit.
If you want to show me this meme image with hgst drives being the best ones and WD being the worst go ahead, by my guest. Keep in mind these are enterprise drives. This 2TB drive you're talking about is produced and sold as cheap consumer drive, which is mostly used anyway in external enclosures, as the drive is so prone to head crashes due to minimal space between heads and platters that nobody sane will mount it into a laptop.

>>61610808
>>61610881
I see, guess I'll stick to the 320Gb internal until I can replace it with an SSD

>>61610072
>To PARTIALLY CORRUPT data on mechnical drive you'd have to create high frequency ac magnetic field, which you won't, as you're too poor to own any relevant hardware to do so.
How can I test this? I'm really curious if my magnet, which was taken off a speaker, would be strong enough to make it unreadable. Probably not, however the flaws of magnetic storage can be used as benefits.

Well, to be actually honest, I haven't been too keen on secure erase procedure. Just grab a hammer and go ape shit on HDD seems secure enough. Assuming we wouldn't need that HDD again.
>Speaking about poland, did you know that it's 100% legal to download pirated movies/ebooks/music/anything-that-isnt-software in Poland? Yes it is.
I would like to doubt this since it's in the EU but I think it has it sort of same as the rest of the Eastern Europe.
>>61610808
>not recommeding Toshiba or HGST

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>>61610096
>2017
>fell for 16Gib ram

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>>61611096
Also, why do you think seashit is the only producer of 7mm 2TB drives on the market?
These drives were already sold in like 2015, and in the Q3 of 2017 still no other company makes such drives.
At some point the distance between platter and head is so tiny that any shock will cause it to crash and fuck up the platter. Even their fancy 3axis accelerometers won't save it when you carry around your laptop.

I had one in my 2570p and despiting hp 3d guard (lenovo APS equivalent) and internal accelerometer inside a drive PCB it still got crash'd after carrying my laptop inside a bag for like 5 minutes.
It's a miracle unpartitioning last 100GB somehow made this drive still usable. Now it serves as 1,9TB anime storage space :^)

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>>61611197
muh VMs. Muh VMs + gayming + browsing internet in chrome with 100 tabs. Muh triple monitor setup.
>>61611136
Again, even a neodymium magnet won't corrupt your data. It will crash the head and fuck up the mechanism but it won't affect platters besides that.
Also new drives got magnetometers to automatically park heads if you get your drive close to a magnet, so even that shouldn't be a problem.
>how to test
Write random shit from /dev/random to disk via dd, turn off and unplug the drive. move your magnet around platter (try to avoid the place where heads are parked, as you might fuck them up). Replug drive, do dd to /dev/null. If drive starts to reallocate sectors due to difference between checksums and actual data written on it this means you somehow corrupted your files.
But you don't have to do that, as you'll only waste your time.

>>61611136
>not recommeding Toshiba or HGST
none of which produce 2TB 2,5" mobile HDDs that will fit into a laptop. So these are out of question.
>I would like to doubt this
You're allowed to use "cultural goods" like movies and music as long as it's "personal use". So you can't share it with anyone. EU has nothing to do with that.

>>61611197
>>61611346
If what happened in the past with DDR2 prices skyrocketing after DDR3 was being adopted, I wonder if this is not the best time to fall for the 16GB meme.

New thread?

>>61611412
>none of which produce 2TB 2,5" mobile HDDs that will fit into a laptop.
I have faced this problem as well. Just what kind of laptop do you have? X220 had 7mm 2.5" support which sure as hell leaves a lot to be desire.
>>61611465
Well shit. In other words, time to upgrade or get buttfucked.

I'm being issued a T470S in September, i7, 1080p, 8 GB RAM, 512 SSD.
What can I expect? Outside of specs, since those are just about universal.

>>61611744

shit.

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>>61611704
x220 easily accepts 9,5" drives. Yes, you have to open up the case, but it will fit perfectly well inside. Plus it accepts another 9,5" drive via ultrabase.
Pic rel, my old x230. If you really want to infest your laptop with inferior sotrage medium then at least mount it inside ultrabase.

>>61611765
>"
>fucking "
lmao. Meant milimeters of course

>>61611760
Thanks, reassuring. It's still probably better than my Lenovo U41-70, at least.

>>61611679
On it, give me a minute.

new bread
>>61611867
>>61611867
>>61611867

>>61611817

probably not shit but not as good as the older thankpads.