RX VEGA WILL RETAIL AT $850 >$350 more than a 1080 for 10

>$350 more than a 1080 for 1080 level performance
Really? DOA.

There's no way they charge $850 for it. They'll never sell any at that price.

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>>61572213
Sometimes I wonder if Lisa Su and Mr Poo In The GPU see these images, and shed a tear or two.

Freesync is cheaper than gsync, so you're saving $300 just buying AMD.

>>61572229
I don't think they expect to, they're just going to cut their losses and work on Navi

Comparing vega to Geforce when you should be comparing it to the most expensive quadro.

>>61572249
Probably why they aren't pushing Hynix nor Samsung to ramp up HBM2 production.

>Eurocuck pricing
Wow it's literally nothing.

>>61572259
>comparing a gaming gpu with a quadro

>>61572199
>Viking speak
Engrish translation? Is this euro pricing? Shits always double over there because of the splendid walled garden economy Europe has set up.

>>61572199
The plebbit thread where the AMDrone Defence Force are claiming it's just a """joke""" and not serious, despite the fact that nordichardware.se has an impeccable record when it comes to releasing accurate information.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6po12m/rx_vega_will_cost_around_850_says_swedish/

>>61572199
>>61572213
>>61572227
>>61572266
>>61572318
There are some serious diehard anti-AMD shills on here.

>>61572269
Woooooooooooooot?
Samsung is ramping 8-Hi stack production.

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>>61572281
>>61572287
>prices starting at 7000 kronor
7000 Swedish Kronor is $850

>>61572370
Pricing without khalifat taxes anyone?

>>61572287
>>61572281
a ryzen 1600 costs around 230-270 (200-230 without tax) dollars in europe, so no, things arent double the price, more like 10-20% above the us price

>>61572342
>Like vega or you're a shill
Plebbitfag pls go

>>61572370
Does cuckbuxx price include Yuro VAT bullshit?

>>61572370
That's excluding tax, too. So it will be higher.

>>61572199
So I waited for nothing? Fuck slash gee going to buy a 1080 ti like I should have a month ago.

>>61572370
isn't it 1080ti 1000 bucks in Sweden?

>>61572394
No, see >>61572402
Swedish tax is about 25%, so that will take the US dollar amount to over $1000.

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>>61572429
>Still not as bad Ausfailia.
So here we're probably going to pay $1500 for bottom of the barrel vega, and $1700+ for anything half decent.

>>61572199

>swedish """"""""""computer"""""""""" website

>>61572410
>1080 ti
Looks like you prefer to be BLACKED.

>>61572463
Wtf is that pricing.

>>61572470
Beats being CURRIED/Shat on.

>>61572370

Sweden has 25% VAT and also "chemical tax" that was introduced a few weeks ago so it's more like 1050USD

>>61572502
>"chemical tax"
Wat.

>>61572410

>waaaahhhhh im gonna buy nvidiot graphic card fuck AMD

back to /r/amd you cancerous manchild

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>>61572199
Now why Kyle wanted to put it against 1080Ti while pajeets at amd suggested 1080, makes sense.
King poojet managed to deliver the worst gpu ever beating nvidia fx 5800.

>>61572507
woah...

>>61572510

https://www.skatteverket.se/servicelankar/otherlanguages/inenglish/businessesandemployers/payingtaxesbusinesses/taxonchemicalsincertainelectronics.4.5c281c7015abecc2e2019351.html

fucking kek, even products that doesn't have the """"""bad"""""" chemicals will still be taxed

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>>61572473
That's pretty much normal pricing for Australia.

>>61572538
Whaddya fuck.
Sweden please.
>>61572541
How do you live there?

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>>61572463
>>61572541

Wew I'm relieved now.

So many autists flapping their arms over unconfirmed eurocuck pricing that could be fucked in any number of ways.

This entire thread right now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDuAugAykcc

>>61572561
No, the one with 300+ replies and <20 posters was pure autism.
This is relatively tame.

>>61572548
>How do you live there?
The average Australian is scraping by, and can't even afford a small house.

>set price high, since its coming out at a time where there's a GPU shortage
>rake in some profits for a while
>as stock builds up in the aftermath of all the crypto-bubble crap, start cutting the price

this is not hard people

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>>61572463
>>61572541
>>61572553

Fuck, I really wanted AMD to be the price/perfomance king, it's their only chance in this market and look at how little all the gaymer nvidiots care. Now I am stuck buying a card that will be gimped in 2 years

>>61572463
>>61572541
Pccg is overpriced.

Look up prices on static ice

1080 is 700aud
580 is 400

>>61572199
What about in the US where we don't have to pay jizya taxes?

>>61572572
This highest personal debt by gdp in the developed world were just about to have multiple recession in property and other msrkets

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>>61572367
DONT BULLY RAJA HE WILL DELIVER ON NAVI

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>>61572595
>>61572541
Wew.

>>61572640
Gamers are fucking morons anyway

>>61572654
I don't think even a moron would buy a GPU that overpriced.

>>61572659
Mmmm I can't wait for the mining meme to die

>>61572654
>>61572659

I bought my 1080 Ti to play Hentai games, I don't even have Steam installed haven't touched a "AAA" game in 3 years, got my eye on a few indies though but waiting for them to release rather than play buggy shit. I'm a horny moron :^)

>>61572616
Yeah, Australia is about to have it's own mini-GFC, and a lot of people are going to get fucked hard.

>>61572671
Don't worry, Vega is absolutely hilarious at Monero, another bubble is probably soon.

>>61572682
Yep thank fuck I've already hit rock bottom and have a comfy living situation at home no debt and own my own place with my mum.
>>61572683
So it's crap for mining? Yaaaaasssss
>>61572674
My 390x is ok for now

>>61572199
They should just put 2 of them together again, like they did with the 295X2.
That shit actually worked, for a long time it was the only GPU that could do proper 4K.

>>61572199
Daily reminder that VEGA FE Edition isn't the gaming version of Vega and will be relased at a later date for a lower price

>>61572720
>So it's crap for mining? Yaaaaasssss
No, it's incredibly good at mining Monero and some other shitcoins.

>>61572735
God rip gpu market.

Hope my 390 lasts a while

>>61572773
Yeah it's why I got sick of waiting and just got a 1080 ti, fuck dealing with stock shortages due to cunts buying in bulk, miners are cancer.

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>>61572728
>Vega Flounders Edition is not meant for gaming!!1!
Why is not made for gaming? It has the same silicon, the same hardware, the same feature set. What makes it so different?
>It doesn't have gaming drivers, you stupid nvidia/intel shill!
Right, so if we put gaming drivers on a card that is physically no different to the gaming version, then it's made for gaming?
>....
>NO! You're WRONG! You don't understand the AMD architecture or what they have made!
But it's physically the same. The only difference is the gaming driver.
>You clearly don't know what you're talking about, because if you did, you'd know they're not the same!
So basically, they're physically the same card, but AMD chose to gimp the gaming performance on the Flounders Edition in order to make RX Vega look better
>OMFG!!! Why can't you idiots understand anything!?1! Only Nvidia gimps their cards.
Right, so when AMD does it, it's ok?
>...

>>61572802
Now that's what i call putting some effort into shitposting!
Bravo, have a (You).

>>61572802
I'm dabbing to your post right now, good shit.

>>61572802
Did you really waste your time typing up this elaborate strawman? I hope this is pasta for your sake.

>>61572798
I should have just got a 1080 a year ago fuck I'm mad fucking miners and dogshit retailers ripping everyone off

Swedish prices have a luxury tax, a cuck tax and a fugee fee.

>>61572829
Refute his points then.

>>61572848
Yeah that sounds like a colossal waste of time, as is this entire thread, which is shitty bait in the first place, so no.

>>61572199
>literally who source
>Vega FE@1300Mhz slides

Wow, that's fucking nothing.

>>61572802
>What makes it so different?
Blower cooler.
Being released before the drivers.
The fact it is a shitty reference

>>61572867
Yeah well there's the door lad.

>>61572829
>GPU thread
>Did you really waste your time typing up this elaborate strawman?
Ha ha have a wild guess.

>>61572318
>nordichardware.se
Who?

>>61572802
Here, I'll just copy/past from the other shitposting thread:

Threadly reminder that anyone who claims to "know" how RX Vega is going to perform is a clueless shitposter since all of Vega's new uarch features remain disabled in Vega FE's gaming drivers.

These include: Advanced Clock Gating and Adaptive Voltage and Frequency Scaling, it should also have Primitive Shaders, Tile Based Rasterization and a High Bandwidth Cache Controller

Proof:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2990-vega-frontier-edition-undervolt-benchmarks-improve-performance

GN's article proves that Vega's Advanced Clock Gating isn't working at all, and that Adaptive Voltage & Frequency Scaling are in a failsafe mode where 1.2v is being used regardless of clocks. This is why GN was able to increase the performance of Vega FE by undervolting it to 1.09v and ~280w.

http://digiworthy.com/2017/06/30/amd-vega-frontier-tile-based-rasterizer/

Here's proof that Tile Based Rasterization is not working on the current Vega gaming drivers.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1633406/so-what-went-wrong-with-vega/120

HBCC and Primitive Shader are also disabled currently in gaming drivers.

Just to maybe get to to at least TRY and educate yourself a little bit, here is a nice article about what the implementation of TBR meant for Nvidia in going from Kepler to Maxwell:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10536/nvidia-maxwell-tile-rasterization-analysis

What does this mean? It means that until we see IF and how well RTG's driver team manage to implement these Vega uarch features by the launch at Siggraph it's actually impossible to know how RX Vega performs compared to Vega FE in gaming workloads.

Will RTG's driver team fail to implement ANY of these by Siggraph and it flops at launch? Who knows? How well will any of these actually be implemented by RTG? Who knows? There is way too large a gap between the floor and the ceiling here to make confident predictions.

>>61572904
World famous overclocker?

>>61572463
Do you actually believe that?

>>61572935
Not him but aussie yeah I fucking bet on it, we always get cucked especially on new releases.

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>>61572514
>Claims is going to buy Nvidia
>Tell him to go back r/amd
????

>>61572943
You can't even shitpost properfly.

5 more days till AMDfriend mass suicide.

>>61572935
Definitely. The 1080 was AUD$1100-$1200 on release for a US$599 card. Vega being US$850 is going to blow the AUD price up.

>>61572963
They I don't who know what are who is shilling what.

>>61572988
Fucking hell what a joke, fuck it buying a 1080 ti then.

>>61572965 (You)
Thank (You) for the (You). I know I'm doing something right when (You) respond to my shiptoast.

>>61572920
>Threadly reminder that anyone who claims to "know" how RX Vega is going to perform is a clueless shitposter since all of Vega's new uarch features remain disabled in Vega FE's gaming drivers.
This just backs up the original statement that AMD gimped Vega FE. But it's fine as long it's not nvidia doing it.

Shitposting aside im happy they release Fast Sync equivalent today. Been waiting for this shit for a while. Now i can finally play Doto2 comfortably.

AMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

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>They fell for the wait for amd meme

>>61573078
Who even makes these images, I chuckled.

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AYYMD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

but amdfags told me it's gonna be $400 tops

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>>61573096

>>61572965
>Properfly
I laughed

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>>61573043
I dunno, it looks like Vega FE works pretty well in geometry bound pro workloads already. My guess is that Vega FE was shipped with an older known stable gaming driver to allow the RTG driver team to deathmarch all the way to Siggraph and only update the Vega FE gaming drivers after RX Vega is launched.

>>61572943
FUck off with youre retarded plebbit meme.

Now the constant delays make sense. They knew vega is a steaming indian turd and wanted to release it AFTER they had deals for ryzen to avoid bad press and crashing their market value.

>>61573129
That's fake.

>>61572393
calm down brian

>>61572370
just buy nvidia, you should be used to getting cucked by being swedish

>>61572802
Im not shilling. I bought a GTX 1070 because I dont need ultra reel 4k at 2000 frames per millisecond. Im just saying, it might not be the same and it will definitely be priced cheaper

>>61573222
to the loo raja

>>61573252
What the fuck AMD.

>>61572236
adaptive sync is not important

that 300$ with Nvidia gives you a GPU that doesn't fucking need it

>>61573272
>Nvidia gives you a GPU that doesn't fucking need it
funny considering nvidiots are the ones constantly bitching about screen tearing

>>61573272
Because you totally buy hi-end GPU to play 1080p on it, right?

>>61573296
So what if I did?

>>61572429
>25%
Wyd? Do you also pay that when you import shit?

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>>61572463
>>61572541
at least you guys have high purchasing power look at these prices instead

>>61573301
>So what if I did?
But amd told me that people don't game at 1080p anymore. Why do you do this?

if vega isn't priced competetively it won't be bought, which will reduce prices to the point of competetiveness. either vega, sooner or later vega will be priced according to its performance.

>>61573321
>t
What currency is that?

>>61573350
₺ Turkish lira or TRY

>>61573350
some tugrik or something

did you guys count by now? 1080ti is what 1600 in sweden? same way here in ruslands
so it's msrp probably half of 1080ti meaning ~800 becomes $350? hooray?
this is best case scenario
1080 for 350 usd
nvidia will never lower prices on 1080 because it will kill 1080 line up, unless they are willing to sell 1060s for $150
they would have to lower prices across the line for it to work

>>61573344
this is indeed a common thing with AMD

it's like they know a small fraction of fanboys will buy it no matter what, so they release their bad products overpriced and then slash prices to double dip

>tfw all you want is a 4K@60fps capable GPU for $600
>tfw Nvidia is too greedy to provide it
>tfw AMD isn't good enough to provide it
>tfw slideshow forever

should I refund my monitor and go back to 1440p?

>>61573484
yes.
wait for 8k
4k is old news

>>61573499
Wait for this, wait for that, wait wait wait... it never ends.

>>61573469
it was the case. it's not anymore
480, then ryzen, then epyc they undercut like wolves wherever they can to gain marketshare

>>61573499
>8K
>Some shit multiple of 1080p
Meh.
10K is the future bud. 16x 1440p

>>61573513
you can always start living offgrid, you'd have to wait for potatoes to grow then instead haha

>>61573484
$700 for a 1080ti just about does 4k60fps, cheaper on sales and deals. Then wait til Volta

>>61573043
assuming a scenario in which Vega doesn't suck (which it probably does), think of what hurts AMD more
>missing their deadline and pissing off investors
>releasing Frontier Edition with tons of shit disabled and generating bad press
>releasing Frontier Edition with buggy drivers and generating even worse press

>>61573562
>$700 for a 1080ti
find me proper 1080ti for this money, I dare you
and no crappy pcb or blower cooler. proper one.

>>61573513
What is even 4K good for? 1440 is about as big as you can get before the edges become too angled and 2nd/3rd monitor becomes preferable, and it has reasonably high DPI.

>>61573563
And AMD has done all three of those. Three strikes and nuke the entire graphics division.

>>61572199
Incorrect. 7000sek launch price means maybe $650 in the US. Pretty bad, but don't spread misinformation.

>>61572199
I don't get why AMD is taking so long for this rebrand
Also, why is it more expensive than a 1080 when it has the same performance? What are they thinking?

>>61573321
I wonder how much those cost in North Korea. Probably the same, considering your countries are basically the same.

Why would I buy a fucking graphic card? I'm ok with my i5.

>>61573644
That's obscene when a 1080 is 500usd and craps over the Vega in games

>>61573653
Running 3D hentai games at 60 FPS.

>>61572541
Aren't those kangaroo dollars, m8?

>>61573586
There's a couple evga ones for about $730-740, not their top cards but there's not a lot of variation in 1080ti cards in terms of performance. You just get slightly shittier cooling and """features"""

>>61572287

It's the taxes that make all products expensive.

Example here in Finland a 20000$ car costs about 34000$ - 37000$ because of the vehicle tax.

Driving license costs 1700$ - 2200$.

Everything from the craddle to grave is very heavily taxed.

When your politicians (example Bernie Sanders) talk about Denmark, Norway... they don't realize how highly everything actually is taxed in those places. If USA was to take same kind of tax system into use, over half of USAs businesses would be gone in a year.

>>61573661
Yeah from the leaked Vega benchmarks it beats the 1080 most of the time. Rx =/= frontier

It could be even lower than $650 too, for example the msrp $250 480/1060 has been 3000 sek ($350) here except for a short period of time when it was ~300 for the cheap ones.

>>61573644
>a VGA costing $650 in the US which is just only on par with 1080 performance-wise in the expense of using more wattage, having bigger die size, using more advanced VRAM and letting people who could just buy 1080 at the very beginning wait for a year
That's not justice.

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>>61573221
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>>61572199
First Ryzen and now this

Tfw waited for Ryzen but didn't wait for vega

Feels good.

>>61573708
GPU division has lost the plot.

Oh well at least ryzen doing good.

Shit time line to build a new PC atm nand ram and gpu prices are memefucked

>>61573717
calm down brian

>>61572318
>despite the fact that nordichardware.se has an impeccable record when it comes to releasing accurate information

Would you care to list some of the leaks that nordichardware.se has made which turned out to be accurate? Since their impeccable record is clearly extensively documented, this shouldn't be hard.

>>61573725
Gonna plonk a 1080 in when prices settle down the old i5 4690 still pulls hard

5 days lol. only 5 days left.

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>>61573733
>Beating a P6000 in pro rendering workloads without the benefit of certified drivers
>GPU division has lost the plot
?

>>61573076
>>61573078
>>61573096
>>61573123
>>61573252
>>61573343
>>61573717
This is why mods should just delete these threads, all they do is inspire retards to fill them with trash.

>>61573089
central intelligence agency

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>>61573663
>3d
Oh dear.

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>>61572199

DELET

>>61573762
honeyselect is nice

>>61573755
Who gives a shit about wagie things and asscoin I need muh fps for pubg

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>sweden
So it's around the same price as the 1080, makes some sense

>>61572510
someone's gotta pay for those niggers anon

>>61573796
So it's still 500usd? WTF is the point of getting one especially at launch when it will essentially be a doorstop just like the 290 fury 480

>>61573758
they're shills, clearly.

I wonder how many Intel shills are undercover shitposting in this thread.

>>61573817
Newer architecture, so it'll probably be better in the future through driver optimizations.
Nvidia's next GPU will certainly destroy it though, so it's a hard buy

>>61573515
Ryzen is currently assblasting the current Intel CPUs.

They are cheaper per unit and better overall. Intel sat on their laurels and market dominance for too long and AMD moved into a profitable market with a clean sweep thats now paying off in dividends.

The problem AMDs GPU branch has is that AMD was happy being the bitcoin option. This meant all investment was a token gesture and they just churned out terrible midrange cards that couldn't compete with the middle range of Nvidia on any level aside from when the resolutions reached 1440p or more, which Nvidia had better card options for until 4k.

This left development stagnant for the past 3+ years and instead of just dominating the middle GPU market (which is the only profitable part of non-meme sales outside of development GPUs like Quadro), they tried to jump back in at the deep end with a brand new GPU that has none of the current GPU developments while trying to sell it MUH NEW RAM, which has probably saved AMD on some level since it shaved 15% off the power requirements, meaning they'd be pitching a Titan Z power hungry monster against a 1080 ( tho they aren't far offlel).

I'll take back what I said yesterday in the Vega thread about how Nvidia will announce the 1100 series of cards and kill AMDs buzz. Instead they can wait another year and just laugh at the poos shitty GPU and refine the next gen GPU while rolling in their money.

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>>61572199
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

>>61573909
Such a huge shitpost. Didnt read, soz bruh.

>>61573885
It's not even good value so yeah I'm gonna skip it.

GPU market is fucked

>>61573959
Its not out yet, retard.

These cards can't even handle 4k 60fps+ and yet it's what I am aiming for.

Fuck sake Nvidia and amd pull ur fingers out

>61573935

Remember to make the post number green when you are responding to a derogatory comment to reduce their (you) count, guys. Someone who is being legitimate won't care about the loss of the (you) and respond anyway and (you)brewers will be assblasted you took it away from them.

:^)

One Finnish retailer confirmed the retail price to be 1099€ for Vega XTX.

Expect EU prices to be around 900€ mark.

>>61573980
looking at this shit they have no reason to release anything , just lower prices.

>>61573998
LOL
The retards who buy this piece of shit are on the level of macfags.

>>61572802
>founders edition
stopped reading here, because you clearly don't know shit about what you're talking about

>>61572574
THIS

>we set price high so miners don't buy
>pajeet, you are genius, your family all gets toilets this month.

>>61574030
stupid poorfag from plebbit. get out haha

>>61572318

Of course it has to be a joke. Everyone knows it won't sell shit if this is the actual price.

>>61573998
Sauce?

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I have a feeling this is probably right considering all the things about vega pointing to it being a fermi tier. Oh well guess I will put nvidia in my ryzen build.

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>>61572920
Thanks for this glorious information comrade.
AMD is the sand bagging king this product cycle.
Surprise butt sex is coming for nVidia.

>>61573702
Bullshit. Denmark is a great country for business and has a large number of small businesses. Same with Norway.

t. lived in Norway, now live in Denmark

>>61573909
kek get some help

>>61574146
Fucking dumb socialist faggot.

>>61573755
>without the benefit of certified drivers
Enjoy your crashes, and worldclass amd levels of customer service.

>>61574496
Radeon Pro will have cert. drivers. Vega FE is for game devs and creatives. Thus the lower price (comparatively speaking)

@61573990
>Remember to make the post number green when you are responding to a derogatory comment to reduce their (you) count, guys.
Don't tell me how to comment faggot.

>>61574521
>Radeon Pro will have cert. drivers.
Useless cards that works with near zero software.
>Vega FE is for game devs and creatives.
This is what they always say, but work needs stability, compatible software, and support. AMD "pro" cards lack these, so amd workstation gpus are more often then not a bad choice when money is on the line. Might as well go radeon if you're even thinking about an AMD gpu for a professional workstation.

>>61572199
Jesus. They really did spend all their rnd money on zen.

>>61573676
Yeah, so about half the value of a US dollar.

Hell, even leaf money is worth more

>>61573755
how is it possible it sucks at gaming? games literally use opengl. is this updated driver or is there even more to come?

>>61574837
>games use opengl
On what planet?

>>61574697
This kind of excessive negativity is almost certian sign you're just a dumbass fanboy or shill.

>Useless cards that works with near zero software.
Citation fucking needed. The kind of software a gamedev or creative would use does not require cert. drivers.

>>61574847
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_OpenGL_support

and vulkan is based on opengl

>>61574837
>how is it possible it sucks at gaming?
Magic!
Consider it magic.

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Eight (8) HUNdred and 50 dollhairs.
Plus tax.

>>61574127
If it comes out true, I'll spend the next month here shitposting nvidia all day.

>>61574913
$650*

>>61574913
Yes, we all know you love flapping your aspie arms over unconfirmed possibly complete bullshit eurocucked price rumors. This thread is like a containment zone for you useless faggots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQ8MBb_sNU

I saw people posting that they would consider buying it at $350. They must be crying in their cornflakes right about now.

>>61574899
dubs confirm, sandbagging hard

>>61574697
>Useless cards that works with near zero software.
Go ahead and make an itemised list of professional rendering applications that work on Vega FE but won't work on WX Vega.

Idiot.

>>61573484
Buy a 980 Ti and overclock it. Job done.

>>61574937
Boy that kid's gay af.

>>61574937
>being this assblasted

Guys should a buy a used car or a GPU that performs worse than a 1080?

>>61575135
You should stop shitposting first.

>>61572234
She wasn't much of a qt growing up eh?

>buying Nvidia
Fantastic. The earlier gaming dies the better for the resurrection.

>>61572234
I thought it was coming with an AIO cooler?

>>61572249
>not selling any due to high price
>cutting losses
you're fucking retarded

>>61574982
None work well on amd cards. Get a Quadro if you get paid to use a computer for something, or get a feforce if you use maya. Get an AMD if you want headaches, or just like that 5% boost in handbrake.

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>>61575460
So you're just asspulling blatant lies to shitpost then? Cool.

>>61575557
It's called "spreading FUD".

Why does this keep happening again and again and again? But the AMD just keep coming back for more. At this point it's like Stockholm Syndrome or something.

I had $400 put away for Vega, but spent it on hookers earlier this week.

I have no remorse now, knowing that I couldn't have afforded Vega anyway.

>>61575557
>posting synths says nothing about stability, and doesn't reflect amd's lack of customer service. You don't even know what separates a workstation card from a consumer card, but you post misleading benchmarks.
>>61575572
>it's called "spreading FUD"
People who say that amd gpus are good for workstations don't earn a living with them. Spreading fud on /g/ about workstation cards is pointless anyway, because pros don't rely on image boards, or rumours to finalize their hardware choice.

>>61575870
You are spreading FUD.

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>>61575870
>I literally have no evidence whatsoever to support my FUD lies, but I will continue to double down on them anyway.
Where are the proofs, friendo? I want to see the proofs.

>>61572922
>world famous overclocker
>overclocker
uhhh
okay
is that supposed to sound credible, sorry

>>61573096
>complex installation and configuration
not really, maybe to a beginner not used to the required force
the rest of this is top comedy

>>61573484
turn down your fucking settings holy shit there is next to no difference between high and ultra

>>61575882
>>61575910
Get a firepro for your workstation, and find out for yourself.
Issues with a firepro:
>Please open ticket on sapphirepgs.
open ticket
>please install latest certified drivers
>please contact AMD if issues persist
Contact AMD
>Please contact manufacturer
Back to sapphire
>please check with software vendor
>It's suppossed to be that way open new ticket if different issues persist for warranty
Issues with quadro:
>a representative is on the way

WELL, I guess price for the rest of the GPUs will stay high thanks to mining, like forever until governments start taking initiatives against it.

>>61572229
There are always amd cucks

>>61572920
So basically amd screwed.
Silicon with features poojets cant program into driver.
Noice

>>61576286
nice goalpost moving, explain why the professional drivers work wonderfully and were written by the same "poojets" then

>>61576367
Because the Pajeet brought some decent quality pajeets to write drivers since RTG was formed.
AND NO, Maxwell 2 was also woefully late despite being on mature node precisely because of drivers.

>>61576128
>More knowing and deliberate lies

Where is the proofs? I want the proofs.

>>61573817
Option, preference, specific porpouse, bias, availability, there is so many reasons.

>>61576424
None of those sound very good.

>>61576420
Firepro is your proof. Buy one. Go ahead just buy a few anon.

card will be 499 MSRP. I would believe in 599 but if they can't scratch 1080ti level as they did with Fury X and 980ti, VEGA is a no go. I hope they put the culling to work as they said it would but the FE didnt manage to do it.

>>61576454
>More outright lies
Where are the proofs? I want to see the proofs.

>>61576420
Just buy a couple firepros anon. No one here really cares how you spend your money. But you have been warned I guess.

>>61576454
>>61576499
>selling amd cards with backwards psychology
I like you comrade.

>>61576474
>More outright lies
Pretty sure that you've never owned a current gen firepro, or quaddro.

>>61576545
you don't even know the name of the gpu you're talking shit about

>>61576610
You've never owned a workstation card in the firstplace poorfag. Why are you even on /g/? First cash in your neetbux to buy an amd workstation gpu, and then join the adult tier conversations anon.

>>61575181
It is, that box is huge, but Mummy Su is also big and makes it look not so big.

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>>61572920
>Early Access hardware
>"It'll be faster in 3 years!"

>>61572199
>They I don't who know what are who is shilling what.
Did you have a stroke while writing that?

>>61577340
>at full price NOW
wew

>>61576402
The Vega team is chinese

>>61572199
now NVIDIA can raise the prices and i would still buy nvidia because AMD fucked up that bad.

>>61572199
Fire Raja

>>61572199
>tfw your Intel CPU got ass raped by Ryzen so you have to rip on AMD's shittiest lineup

>>61572199
>swedish prices
nordic countrys are rich as fuck
the prices arent the same internationally

>>61574064
>Of course it has to be a joke. Everyone knows it won't sell shit if this is the actual price.

Thing is, they just had a marketing road show (of 2 stops...), where the main thing they tried explaining is that Vega + Freesync monitor is $300 cheaper than 1080 + Goysync monitor.

The freesync monitor was a $500 one and the NVidia one was a $1000 one. Which means that their marketing is trying to spin the fact that the Vega costs $200 more than the 1080. And the 1080 is starting at $600.

So yeah, Vega will end up costing $800 or so.

>AMD can make good CPU's
>Can't make a worthwhile GPU
Looks like Ryzen+Nvidia is the best of both worlds.

>>61580859
Ryzen+GeForce still is dubious due to potentially shitty driver multithreading.

>>61572463
$16/hour minimum wage you fucking moron.
Of course your prices look high, your money is inflated like all shit.

good riddens

>>61572199
the price is like that just because a lot of countries are boycotting isreal
give it a few months and the same thing will happen to intel

>>61572199
isn't that a normal price for a high end GPU from nvidia though. such as yhe titan X

>>61572236
>you save $300
>because the nvidia setup has a monitor that is $500 more expensive instead of being a similar price point
yeah okay

>>61580978
I just want UHD@120+ Hz displays.
All these high-end cards are wasted just trying to max out AO or whatever bullshit at UHD@60 Hz or 3440x1440@100-ish Hz.

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>>61574779
Current exchange rates put the AUD at roughly 80% of the value of USD$1, so that's still USD$1100-$1200 in Australia.

>>61572463
That is how much I pay for my entire computer

>>61574896
No, vulkan is based on Mantle, which has nothing to do with OpenGL. The only similarities is OpenGL was developed by the same group that finished developing vulkan.

I was gonna get a new monitor but freesync 4k ones that do 120hz+ can't find a single GPU strong enough to drive it

>>61572199
so this is an amd hate thread, hmm fucking intelfag

>>61575153
>She

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>>61572463
I could probably make a shitload of money smuggling PC components to Australia.

>>61582165
>freesync 4k ones that do 120hz+
doesn't exist

>>61582215
Don't you start with that shit

>>61582226
Exactly

:_; tech is so stagnant in the desktop PC space atm.

Stupid smart phones

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>>61572199

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>>61572802

>This post triggers MADFAGS

topkek... Good shitpost, but you are correct.

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>>61573563

then pull the race card in front of investors

These pajeets couldn't compete against the racist white devils, b-but they are cheap workers a-anyway...

>>61573817
>RX480
>sub 200$ card
>faster than 1060
>faster than 970
>bad

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>>61583476

>sub 200$ card

Try Sub 300-400

>>61572639
But I need a GPU yesterday, what do?

come on now, everyone knows swedes are under jewish control

>>61583476
>sub $200 card
The reference 4Gb 480 might have been that at the time of release, but you can't get those anymore.

>>61580859
Hawaii was god tier
Fiji was alright and the Fury X outperforms the 980ti now in most titles (but i'm not sure how long the 4GB VRAM will be enough)
Polaris is pretty good, outperforms the 1060 and was also cheaper before minerfags fucked the market

>>61584047

tfw I only paid $210 for my 4gb MSI RX 480 Gaming X back in February.

>>61583521
Yeah that's cryptominers.
But even when released it was more like $240.

>>61572199
price starting at 850

and you know its already a stupid rumor

I'm calling it now. If it's $850 then it will be better than the 1080 by a lot, if not it won't be $850. What's more likely though is that the benchmarks don't actually represent the performance on release.

None of the big three on the market is stupid enough to release a card DOA, so why would AMD defer?

>>61585260
amd tactic now is to murder prices giving same performance much cheaper
let's believe in Mama Lisa.

everything looks like it's going to be 1080 performance for $100 cheaper
but market is retarded right now, no idea how it will work
reference models might be cheaper than 1070 for a while making it best card you can buy

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>>61584799
>Hawaii
>God tier
I know that /g/'s AMD shills love to write revisionist history but let's not go as far as saying that RX 200 series was god tier. It was due to Hawaii that AMD lost 15% of its market share. For the first year the drivers were absolutely terrible and it took AMD a year to implement downsampling or fix the flickering cursor issue. A card like 280x that on paper was as good if not better than 770 was 5 to 10 fps behind across the board and I know it for a fact because I owned both. I think the only justifiable purchase was 290 because u could flash it to 290x but that's it. Now keep in my mind that if I had to choose Kepler or Hawaii in 2017 I'd pick AMD no doubt but majority of normies switch cards every 2 or 3 years and Kepler was miles ahead of Hawaii until Maxwell release. Also by Fury X outperforming 980 Ti you mean 3 Vulkan titles.

>>61585347
I know you didn't have 1440p monitor in 2015, 390 was the only midrange card you could get for that
970 was out of question

390 is amazing value, it worked it's money to the bone for me, I'll keep it for another year if vega is too expensive/slow

>>61585377
390 was literally polished Hawaii with 3 years of improvements in drivers/clocks and extended vram.
Yea it was great, shame it took AMD 3 years to polish a turd. If AMD released 390 with its performance instead of 290 they wouldn't dip so fucking hard in market share allowing Nvidia to raise prices of Pascal by $100 when compared to Maxwell.

>>61585408
it's still same arch that alive and kicking for 5 years. If it isn't godtier I don't know what.

>>61585428
I don't see anything great about AMD being Intel of GPUs and releasing GPU's with 5% performance gains over period of 3 releases and 4 years when the only difference compared to previous versions is the $70 lower price tag to even justify the purchase. I'm talking about 290/390/480.

>>61572229
Miners have already bought them all.

Isn't VEGA releasing soon?

>>61585537

Vega is a myth; like a down syndrome unicorn.

>>61585347
i literally had a 290 at launch and it was so b ad i swapped to a 770 4gb that was faster up until 2015 then i went back to a 390x last year.

Still fucking waiting for vega over a year later

>>61585633
My 770 2GB is a champ, surprised to hear bad things about 290 though, maybe you got a bad aftermarket one?

>>61585678
The only bad thing about the R9 200/300 series line of GPUs is the chance of ending up with elpida RAM that fucks you up with random freezes where you still get display output, except it's frozen, and there's a buzzing noise if you have audio. If you had hynix the chances were much lower.

>>61585633

>290/x was bad

It was literally one of the best cards to be ever produced, still keeping up with 1060/70 to some/most degree even though it's a 4 year old card.

The fuck you are even talking about?

>>61584985
I need that time machine so i can go back in time and buy it for 240 dollars

>>61585742
Yeah plus it kept me warm and comfy over winter nights

>>61585742
290x burned my house down. Killed my whole family. For that I do NOT forgive.

>>61585928
GTX480 burned my house down. Killed my whole family. For that I do NOT forgive.

>>61573758
>/g/
>mods

They're hardcore mac cucks i think, try posting some gnu/linux and windows shit that claims macfag btfo or something, it goes to the trash instantly with a final reply.

>>61573909
T.Butthurtcoinminer

AMD RX cards have just been a clusterfuck since release, at release, there wasn't any supply so everything was fucking north of $200 and nearing $300 at times, and when supplies were finally catching up and the RX 500 series came out, the cryptomining fucked up prices so much there were fucking RX 580s being sold for $500 fucking dollars.

>>61585347

The reason AMD lost marketshare was because of Maxwell coming out.

The 970 was a hell of a deal. Then the 980Ti came out and edged out the Fury X

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>>61586108
If you look at the steam hardware survey results for this month, you'll see there are less people who own the 480, 470, and 460 combined, than are people who own a 1080 alone in the DX12 category.
>RX480 = 1.00%
>RX470 no significant % to be listed
>RX460 = 0.5%
>GTX1080 = 1.7%

The pascal line of cards make a combined total of 15.93% of all gpu's registered with steam. The combined ownership of the RX400 and RX500 series is 1.5%.

Regardless of what people say, in terms of gaming, AMD isn't even putting up a fight.

>>61586421
>in terms of gaming
Right. But I'm not even on steam and there are others like that. Also 500 and 400 cards are completely sold out but they are not on the gamers' hands. You can't say it's a complete failure because miners bought them up in bulk.

>>61586651
>You can't say it's a complete failure because miners bought them up in bulk
In financial terms, no, it's a financial success for AMD. In gaming terms, it's a failure.

>>61586661
We can't say it's a failure in gaming if people didn't have a chance to use it. My 480 does pretty well in games, I'm sure it could get a decent marketshare if miners didn't fuck shit up.

>>61586661
>In gaming terms, it's a failure.
That's every Radeon since like forever (more like since 8800 launch).
What did you expect?
Jacketman can sell shit with nVidia stickers and people WILL buy it.

>>61586690
I don't mean the 400/500 series is a performer. I have an XFX480 and I couldn't be happier with it. But from a business perspective, AMD's aim at achieving significant marketshare, was a failure.

lol just wait amd see

>>61585295
Imagine the market share they could assimilate with a strategy like that. It'd also explain their quietude as well, striking unexpected blows and such. Or they could be blowing it up and out of proportion to motivate all the hype buyers. Gotta hand it to them with Ryzen though, they really knocked the wind out of Intel, I'm hoping they'll do the same to nVidia.

>>61586799
True. If people look back 20 years later they will think the polaris was very bad because no one used it.

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>>61583521
Oh what could have been for team red if wasn't for the miners.

>>61585295

>1080 performance for $850
Except Nvidia can completely cut the price and steal AMDs thunder.

People don't realise how long the 1080 has been utterly dominant in the gaming market for a flagship.

AMD producing an 1080 equivalent with more power draw after a fucking year is an example of being incompetent because the Nvidia card would have made laughing as it had armies of chinese throw wheelbarrows of cash into their money bin while preparing to swim around like Scrooge Mc Fucking Duck.

That means they have no more overhead since they've long since repaid the investment cost and they can cut prices to undercut the AMD flagship while preparing for the next big thing, which they doubtlessly have around the corner.

The Nvidia prices haven't shifted since release because the 500 series were laughable for their intended market. It's just lucky for AMD that their GPUs make the better bitcoin mining processors since that's what's floated their GPU branch since the 7970.

>>61586876
Friend of mine got himself a 4GB 480 for 180€ before all that mining shit started

>>61587087
>180€
>$229
Depends on brand and model,in my country asus, gigabyte, sapphire and other well known AMD partners costs double those amount. What's funny is my country isn't even running nuclear energy and electricity is expensive as fuck.

>>61587119
It's a conspiracy by the electric jews to get more shekel out of you.

>>61586917
>Except Nvidia can completely cut the price and steal AMDs thunder.
they can't
if they lower 1080 $100 they would have to lower 1070 $100 and 1060 $150

how do you see nvidia killing their whole line up I have no idea

>>61572199
7000kr gpu's normally are at around 650€/$ because prices here are fucked

>>61587353
Nvidia is in the same boat as Intel. They can't cut prices because if margins.

>>61587087
the 4gb ones got down to $150 after rebate in the US the 470 4GB got down to $120 after rebate

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6pvu1i/asus_radeon_rx_vega_64_8gb_hdmi_dpx3/
>ASUS watercooled RX Vega will be selling 1155EUR ex. VAT in Latvia
>meanwhile GTX1080 costs around 540
We are close to SIGGRAPH and AMD seems not bothering calming anybody down by saying those RX Vega will not be so expensive despite its shitty performance.

>>61588915
Why should they care about autists spazzing out over unconfirmed rumors and "leaked" prices in eurocuckville?

>>61585721
Yeah that was one of the many problems.

290 launch was dogshit the card could flat out not do dx11 games well.

Mainly driver problems.