WILL INTEL EVER RECOVER?

>>61550845
> Buy Ryzen within weeks of availability.
> Lame box

W-Why have you forsaken me AMD?

They never recovered me as a customer. I will always be AMD.

>>61550845

why did you chop mommys head off?

What is this and can someone photoshop it so its a giant CPU in the foam

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>>61550845
> 16-cores/32-threads
> + AIO
> $1000
Intel:
> 10-cores/20-threads
> $1000

>>61551592
Conveniently forggetting 1 AMD core = 0.5 Intel core

Jej

>>61551697
You mean, 1Intel core = Unstable shit at 4.7Ghz let's just release our CPU at that frequency!

>>61551592
Also, Intel HAS to be oc'd to 4,7-5GHz to be viable in any way risking burn damage.

>>61551697
>people actually believe this shit.

>>61550845
I hope so.
Don't want 10 years or stagnant AMD like we got with intel.

>>61551704
>>61551957

nice samefag, do you get paid by the post or are you just a mentally challenged sperg spreading false info?

>>61551697
It's more like 1 AMD core = 0.95 Intel core per clock cycle, but with the intel cores running at blazing hot 5Ghz which makes the final result be 1 AMD core = 0.9 intel hot core

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>>61551697
Only in terms of heat output.

>Dem titties.

I want to threadrip her...if you know what I mean wink wink.

How do I get a EPYC shirt?

I work as a service guy in my local PC shop. Literally built a single computer with AMD CPU since Ryzen came out, I don't think Intel has to recover from anything.

>>61550845
I think that box is cool as fuck

>>61552088
You tell me. Why are tests shilling i7-7700k always oc'd? Why is memelake-x results always oc'd? Why not use non-k/x processors on benchmarks against Ryzen?

>>61553716
Because that would make Intel look bad.
Bad goy.
Very bad goy.

That box could double up as a pillow.

>a pillow for Brian to bite as Su goes in raw.

>>61553496
>muh anecdotal evidence
>comparing HEDT sales to mainstream

>>61552110
For HEDT use, and more so servers, Zen IPC is actually generally higher.

It has higher fp32 and fp64 performance, hashing, memory bandwidth, and so on.
The only thing it's really worse at is AVX512 and int perf.

Funny enough, the last gen of excavator Opterons had extremely good int perf. Good for GIS until they were held back by memory.

>>61553842
I kinda botched the first one.
By what i saw in terms of actual benchmarks, ryzen kinda seems to be better at IPC in general if compared to the intel parts.. but the intel parts are running sanic fast in terms of clock rate.

Not entirely sure how this will bode for the performance per watt on intel side.

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>>61551592
I can't wait for benchmarks.
Benchmarks of similarly specced CPUs, benchmarks of similarly priced CPUs.
I'm gonna be drinking so much coffee and reading so many articles!

>>61553869
>Not entirely sure how this will bode for the performance per watt on intel side.
It's bad even at totally anemic clocks.

>>61553887
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade/22
Fuck.
Forgot the link.

>>61553897
Well, it's the EPYC here, moar processors per die and stuff save power on well not having more Racks.
But i think that even on the unichip deal, Ryzen will be better.
Like, if 2Ghz ryzen > 2 Ghz intel, and both eat the same power..

>>61550874
> Lame box
This is just tradition bro, be thankfull that your productor wasnt delivered by a paki driving a vespa

>>61553945
Dude it's eating 20watts more at INT workload with CONSTANT jumping thorough coherent links.
That's worse than rape.

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>>61550845
>cropping mummy out of the photo

>>61553869
For servers, zen fucks xeon perf/watt. It's 2x higher in some cases, and almost never lower, especially not anywhere near half.

Anandtech did a good review.
Though as they point out, ultimately it can wind up being cheaper for a company to buy faster but less cores because lots of software licensing is thousands of dollars PER CORE.
So buying a $8000 xeon that's 3.5GHz on 24 cores can make more sense than buying a $4500 Epyc that's 3.2GHz on 32 cores winds up costing more.

I'm not sure why AMD isn't releasing 1p 16 core on their server socket with 2 dies and 3.5GHz per core. I think there is a market for it for sure.

>>61553945
2GHz zen uses much less power than 2GHz intel.
It's only above like 3.3Ghz that intel power efficiency starts catching up then sort of surpassing it past that wall zen gets voltage limited at and Intel just uses silly amounts.

>>61554010
>lots of software licensing is thousands of dollars PER CORE
That's fucking stupid. Why does anyone put up with that?

>>61554010
>lots of software licensing is thousands of dollars PER CORE
What? IS that really a thing? How can they tell?
How positively sneaky. Is that because of some "One instance of the software running per core" deal?

>>61553261
rekt

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>>61553982
>>61550880
She was such a cutie in Lost Planet 3, but she aged badly.

>>61554073
>Lost Planet 3
CAPCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
I will never not be angry about this.

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>>61554010
>I'm not sure why AMD isn't releasing 1p 16 core on their server socket with 2 dies and 3.5GHz per core. I think there is a market for it for sure.

>>61554031
Look up MS SQL licensing

>>61553261
apocalyptic burn

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>>61553261

>>61554208
>2.4Ghz is 3.5
retard

>bitching which cpu is better

both are compromised on the hardware level

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AMD partners have showcased their upcoming Ryzen Threadripper X399 motherboards:

https://videocardz.com/71100/msi-showcases-x399-gaming-pro-carbon-ac

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>>61556322

Asrock

ffffffuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUuuuccccccccckkkk

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>>61556322
>>61556345

Intel is finished and bankrupt!

>>61556345

>a fucking cogwheel

>>61556345
>>61556368
3600 MHz memory is great and all, but I care more about which boards will support 32GB ECC RDIMMs.

>>61556322
>13 phases
>2x 8pin cpu power
I know what I'm getting now

>>61556322
>>61556345
Looks like quad channel RAM and power delivery will make it hard to make a monoblock

>>61554031
Isn't MSSQL licensed per socket, where AMD is at an advantage, or did MS change their policy?

>>61556444
what do you mean?

>>61556453
Per core.

>>61556474
See how the heatpipe goes down on the left side on the Taichi?
Obviously it's going down to part of the power delivery. I think a monoblock would have a hard time reaching back there.
It looks even worse on the MSI board. I think we could end up with a separate VRM block.

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>>61556368

CHECKMATE INTEL.

>>61556522
ah yes, all that ram will give a hard time for a monoblock designer

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>>61556550

DELETE THIS, YOU PIECE OF SHIT!

>>61556408
ECC is a meme.

Hnnnnnngggg
I'd buy TR if the 1700 wasn't such a great value desu.

>>61556416
They definitely don't want an X299 on their hands.

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Then there's this

http://www.legitreviews.com/asus-rog-zenith-extreme-x399-motherboard-pictures_196357

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>>61556770

>>61556876

Asus' styling for the top end Zen motherboards is really slick. The muted grey/black is damn sexy.

>>61556905
Yeah at least you can turn off the light circus

>>61555422
If that was the important part, then what is Threadripper?

>enthusiast boards for multi-die fucktons of cores cpu

why?

>>61557282
for the same retards who build dual xeon quad sli rigs

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>>61557282
Sorry, here, we made this one just for you.

>>61556345
>Caps: Black

>>61551592
No AIO from AMD, no air cooler either. Fake rumor. Debunked now. Also only fans available at launch will be shit colored Noctua ones, and even those are limited supply.

>>61556876
>2 8-pin
What kind of PSU even supports that?

>>61557375
1000+ watts?

>>61557369
[citation needed]

>>61557369
The box is big enough to be hiding an AIO in there.

>>61551697
this isn't bulldozer you cunt. AMDs SMT is actually more effective than intel's, so per thread AMD almost wins if not for the 4GHz hard barrier.

>>61557208
Stop being dumb.

Epyc have 128 PCIe lanes. They are 4 dies. Being 4 dies means more uncore. Which means higher TDP. Which means further needing lower clocks to stay at reasonable TDP.
They would need 2 full dies per socket instead of 4 to have clocks closer to Threadripper for server CPUs while still having good perf/watt. They have no such offering. They're all 128 PCIe lane 4 dies. The 16 core Epyc are 4 4 cores.

>>61556368
3 lan?

>>61557375
High-End/Server PSUs.

Did they find out why GCC segfaults randomly on Ryzen under heavy load? Is this a GCC bug or a bug in Ryzen's microcode?

>>61556647
Not on a thread ripper you silly bitch.

ECC is almost mandatory.

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>>61556876
>we need to develop a new motherboard for HEDT processors
>lets make it gaymen styled and add RGB LEDs
Someone should die because of this. Who the fuck is going to be getting these new HEDT processors for building a gaymen rig anyhow?

>>61559853
You can turn them off, y'know.

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>>61559853
I would because I also edit 4k/1080p video and 8k+ resolution pictures. Also encode a lot as well.

however on my off time I also game.

I also agree about the gaudy motherboards with RGB nonsense. I'm hoping ASUS steps up and delivers their WS line of motherboards for X399/Threadripper. If so, I'm sold.

Pic related is Intel Asus WS board.

>>61559853
It looks fine if you just remove the plastic shrouds and replace the chipset heatsink (which probably isn't even required for what is probably a 12watt or so chip).

It's a fucking CPU, why does it have to come in a stupid decorative box

>>61559853
Enterprise will just buy the HP or Dell workstations a year from now, when they are validated.
Buying this shit now is paying to be a beta tester.

>>61559930
>I would because I also edit 4k/1080p video and 8k+ resolution pictures. Also encode a lot as well.
But you aren't building that for gaming, you're building it for other more hardware intensive tasks that happen to have you covered if you want to play games (and considering new AAA games today are straight shit, you really don't need much to be covered for playing games). You shouldn't be stuck with "Republic of Gaming" shit all over your machine just because you want a higher end machine.

>>61560088
>is poor and never had that experience of opening a premium product
damn

>>61550845
OK it's bait. I'll bite

why do you guys continue to write threads like 12 year old girls?
The only conclusion I can come to is you're an effeminate man, or in this case a faggot

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>>61560088
>$1000 CPU
>better box than Intel's

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>>61556345
>>61556368
>all those SATA and USB ports

>>61561629
And 10Gb NIC from Aquantia in professional gaymen.

>>61557369
>Fake rumor
Really nuzzles the nezmins

>>61561009
M8 trust me, if it was written like a 12 year old girl I'd be all over it. But it shows what type of thoughts are in your mind.

>>61559666
Witnessed. Elaborate please.

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INTEL FUCK'D AND BANKRUPT!

http://event.gigabyte.us/x399promo/

>>61562542
I'd really want a Gigabyte Aorus board for my threadripper build, but I think i'll have to go with the MSI one that has a fuckton of power phases and connectors because I want to overclock it

>>61562542
Lights up like a goddamn christmas tree.

>>61562834
Disable everything and it looks rather conservatively.
In fact, all gaymen mobos do look decent without gay lights.

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>>61562542
>>61562834
>>61562856
Are there any mobos that change the light color based on temperature data of the nearest part?

>>61562542
That's a big socket

>>61563200
I don't know about the others, but gigabyte's software allows for a bunch of color customization, including what you said

>>61563200
>>61563251

>what are MSI boards, even the Asus prime series are decent rgb-wise

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>>61562542
>one NIC
>built in wifi

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>>61562542
>glowing logo on the board
>every DIMM and PCIe slot glows
This has gone too far.

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>>61557326
i can't stop laughing at this image

>>61557883
My point is that if you want a CPU such as you described, you have Threadripper, quite simply.

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>>61563246
Dr. Pascal, I'm AMD.

>>61563870
Vega?

>>61556322
now with top speed 2666 mhz. Only on infinty glue

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>>61563881

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>>61563940
Did someone say glue?

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>>61563955
>filename

>>61556876
Nice. I bet it run full "overclocked" to 3.6 ghz.
Nice toy cores

>>61563972
sauce on anime?

>>61562542
why do mobo manufactures have ot make everything glow

>>61563981
Brian stop.

>>61562785
>Overclock
>On an AMD platform
enjoy your 200mhz "overclock"

>>61563985
>sauce on anime?
Gabriel Dropout.
>>61563997
What the fuck are you doing Brian?
Prepare the lube, the shareholders are not going to be happy.

>>61563985
>why do mobo manufactures have ot make everything glow
Because it looks cool to normies and costs almost nothing to implement

>>61557326
this is a shop right

>>61563997
>HURR DURR MUH MEGAHURTZ
>In an HEDT thread
>Where Intel CPUs can't clock high anyway

Kill yourself, faggot.

>AMD beats Q2 expectations while Brian is busy shitposting in mongolian cartoon forums
Whoa.
Bravo Intel!

>>61563981
Meanwhile Intel's 12 cores are stuck at 140 watts because the X299 platform was so poorly designed and rushed. Their 16 and 18 cores will have sub 3 GHz clockspeeds for sure. They will have to downclock the 165 watt 18 core. Which already loses to 16 core Threadripper. tl;dr Kill yourself, dipshit.

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>>61553261
dam son

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>>61557423
2018 will be fun.

>faster RAM
>Zen maturing
>more software support

>>61564122
>>Zen maturing
You mean 7nm Zen 2?

>>61564122
>Just wait
>Zen will be faster than intel i promisse
Meanwhile muh zen 3.7 mhz
2999 mhz max shitty memory
"quad channel" (real 2 channels per die)
100nm L3 lag

>it will be better i swear! This fucking bizarre chip will not need a 800$ motherboard

>>61564192
Holy fuck Brian.

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>>61564138
Zen 2nm

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>>61564192
We did it. We found the one retard actually stupid enough to take Intel's shit-tastic marketing slides seriously.

>>61564236
I bet how much of you neckbeards need a 16 core cpu. Meanwhile intel offers 8-10 real cores with real single thread performance and multi thread performance.

Stay mad, its not a shame to buy the inferior proiduct if you are poor

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>>61564138
>You mean 7nm Zen 2?
PC tablets with zen 2 APUs are gonna be dope as fuck.

Raven ridge is already on it's way to tear intel a new one with support for 3600 MHz dual-channel DDR4 RAM (57.6GB/s).

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>>61564261

>>61564275
>>61564275
In real world, a proper cpu like intel 7900 spank a similar knock off 12 tr cores

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>>61564361
Yep those mesh and cache changes sure help it to .. fail miserably.

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>>61564376
Oh no.

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>>61564398

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>>61564376
Sun spider hasn't been a valid benchmark since it's inception. You might as well post gookbench and pissmark ones.

>>61557375
Most that are north of 750W.

>>61563527
I really wish mobo manufs would stop putting wifi modules built-in to the mobos and not on a removable card. The previous images of the Gigabyte board showed it didn't have wifi. Now they went full stupid like the other mobo manufs and put it on there. People seek to use Threadripper for professional workstations and these guys keep cheesing out the boards w/ crap like this.

Dual ethernet. No wifi !
What professional gamer is even on wireless?

>>61564192
>>61564261
Shit bait
Low quality

>>61564707
>professional gamer
I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.

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>>61559930
>>61560134
Agreed. As these are primarily workstation grade processors, these guys need to release some workstation mobos. I was maybe sold on one of them until I spotted a hardwired wifi/bluetooth addition in the latest detailing. For this, All of these boards and threadripper are likely DOA for me until the mobo offerings mature.

Blowing an opportunity here to solidify marketing to workstation professionals....
We'll see how this turns out. However, it's interesting to see all the mobo guys change their boards leading to launch to center on gamers... smfh.

>>61565247
>until I spotted a hardwired wifi/bluetooth addition
Why does that matter?
If you don't like it, disable it.
Or use our own WiFi card.

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>>61559853
My thoughts exactly. Some months ago, it looked like, at least one of the mobo giants was going down a semi-ok path. Now, it seems all of these dummies have converged on Gaymen boards and features.
> No dual ethernet but fucking wifi/bluetooth.

This is really going to keep me up tonight as I try to decide whether to invest in this platform early. I feel I might wait it out until these guys mature their mobo offerings and take the WS nature of these chips seriously. God knows how much all of this extra garbage is going to cost. $500 price tag incoming IMO. If you strip all the stupid shit off the board you'd maybe be near $300-$400 which is still elevated but not full-retard.

AMDs letting these cash grabbing mobo idiots and OEM (DELL) chop the legs off the WS class. Important decisions will be considered tonight

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>>61556368
>professional gaming

>>61565555
Checked.

Also, by professional gaming they probably mean streamers who need the extra cores. I already know of one streamer who is planning to get a Threadripper.

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>>61565278
See WS motherboards.
All wireless modules go on riser cards allowing for it to be physically removed.
See Pic.

If not, hopefully supermicro/tyan will teach these manuf's who have lost their way how to make a WS grade mobo ...

https://twitter.com/bitsandchipseng/status/878575914996695040?lang=en

>>61565321
Don't you think there will be cheaper boards eventually?

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>>61565555

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>>61565555
how is to know that AMD platform cant even hold 2400mhz with 64gb?
And you fuckers say it will top intel
Like Vega is going to take on Pascal

Its same bullshit over and over

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>>61565624
Yes. However, time is of the essence.
See you in September.
Love ʞ≡K

>>61565555
Quads.
Led to me doubling down on my suspicions found here :
>>61565608

Results :
> http://cdn.overclock.net/f/f0/500x1000px-LL-f039ada9_005l.jpeg
(Zoom.. enhance .. Zoom... enhance)
*Wifi module header spotted which means wifi is likely on riser

Wifi module installed :
http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Gigabyte-X399-AORUS-Gaming-7-Motherboard.png

Likely, under the metal shroud is the wifi module extending off the riser header.
If wifi module is on riser, Scheduled Habbenings.
If not, I might be a little late to the party lads.

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>>61565799
I sense much fear in you anon.
You scared whiteboi?
Ultimately, you will have a choice.
So, choose wisely when the time comes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g8nAqDu3gI

You called for me.... Now I'm coming.
Clocks and capacity looks fine desu.

Does anybody else just want to suck off Dr. Su's breasts until she lactates?
Her breasts look so soft and soothing.

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>>61565686
Look for (digits) on the (horizon)

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>>61565956
There's a reason why Lisa is so appealing to the sense and at the (helm).
There's meaning in the memetic energy centered around AMD.

Look for the lost : Grand Happening(s) 2017 thread.
Seek and ye shall find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Gmxdiy0d0

>>61550845
I bought an i5 7600k and a z170 motherboard. Didn't know ryzen was as good as it is.

How bad did I fuck up /g/?

>>61565799
Really hoping this shit will be handled by the time threadripper drops.

I want 64gb of 3200mz quad channel. If they release an updated version with zen2 arch, I won't need to upgrade for a solid 8 years.

>>61557326
Where's the SATA, bitch?

>>61566054
honestly not.. like that bad.

Unless you're doing massively parallel tasks you'd never even notice the difference. Hell if you're gaming your i5 is probably generally a little better.

>>61566334
Word, all I'm doing is gaming and watching YouTube videos

Thanks senpai, when I googled the benchmarks people were acting like those ryzen r5's were a godsend.

>>61566375
They're indeed good for the price, but even then you only spent like 50 bucks more

>>61566054
You fucked up pretty bad if you want to play games at 60 fps in the next 5~10 years.

>>61551957

Yeah, Intel turbo's 1 core to 4.3....calls is innovation. top kek m8.

>>61566666

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>>61566054
This is the future of i5's in gaming. 100% CPU usage for days. Lots of throttling and framedrops.

>>61551592
>HEDT
>4C/4T
BTFO by Ryzen 3 lmfao how will Intel recover?

>>61553261

now thats a hardcore post, no need to tell me

>>61563997
oh yeah we totally saw how good the skylake or the broadwell-e is on OC

oh wait..
one cant oc the other burns its pins

>>61564521
yeap we know
anything that intel is behind
its:
NOT VALID
DELET DIS
ITS BIASED
SMTH SMTH
THE REVIEWER DIDNT OVERCLOCK THE INTEL CHIP AND LET THE AMD ONE STOCK
BLA BLA

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>>61556322
>>61556345
>>61556368
>Gaming LAN WIFI AC
>Professional Gaming
Death to all Vidjew Gaymers

>>61563246
4 u

>>61566054
You are fine.
Amd is for autistic neckbeards

>>61570339
Go away you jewpoo.

>>61552110
More like 1 AMD core = 1.1 Intel cores.

That shit hits thermal limit fast.

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>>61570515
>Entusiast platform
Can't handle even memory

>>61570999
>threadripper memory support
>3600+
Fuck off.

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>>61570999
Stop embarrasing yourself, Brian.

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>>61550845
FUCK AMD
FUCK LISA SU
FUCK JIM KELLER
FUCK RYZEN
FUCK INFINITY FABRIC

>>61565799
>>61566100
Pretty sure Threadripper is capable of supporting up to 1TB of memory.

>>61571011
Where is source plz?

>>61556905
ASUS gaming stuff is always on the lower end of insanity.

>>61571011
Where did I hear this before?
Ahhh here
https://www.google.com.br/amp/wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-cpus-support-ddr4-memory-speeds-3600mhz/amp/

>Feb 2017
>We’ve just got confirmation that AMD Ryzen CPUs do in fact support DDR4 memory with speeds of up to 3600MHz. We know this thanks to BIOSTAR’s memory compatibility list via VCZ which has just been published.

Just more lies

>>61572265
>wccf
>Feb 2017
>br
well, guess we know where one of the shills is shitposting from.

>>61572265
There is an entire universe of dumb going on inside your head.

>>61566995
I told people this 3 years ago.

Go i7 or just get AMD fx 8core - even though Bulldozer/Piledriver was a shit, it's killing those i5s now and wasn't far off them before.

Jews are indestructibles

>>61572265
>.br
Stupid ape.

>>61572316
Ok just hit me because you can't deny AMD lies.

>>61572656
It's some pre-release bullshit from February based on a leaked "compatibility list", not anything official from AMD, you goddamn perma-retard. Just do the world a favor and kill yourself.

>>61572265
SOPA MACACO

>>61572851
So yes, amd spin some shit about high speed memory, and the reality this shit platform can't even hold 3000 without shitting it's pants.

>Muh threadryppa will be different

Sae dies but somehow it's gonna be less shitty than ryzen

>>61573161
AGESA 1.0.0.6 was out months ago supporting high speed RAM you autistic shill.

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>>61563788
It had already gone too far 10 years ago. We're just in retard territory now. Pic related.

>>61564031
>Because it looks cool to normies
Does it even? Who even appreciates this? If you're going to say 13-year-olds, I'm still pretty sure I wouldn't even have liked it when I was 13.

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>>61573161

>denial

Woah there buddy, calm your tits.

>>61564521
>Sun spider hasn't been a valid benchmark since it's inception.
Why not, though? As long as you run it on a fixed browser, it's basically a static instruction stream that a system can run more or less fast.

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>>61573161
LMAO

>>61564521
>b-but it makes amd look g-g-good
>it doesnt count

>>61573161
>ryzen was shit
wew lad calm down brian, im sure intel will give you a severance package

>>61575270
that benchmark isnt kosher goyim, delet dis

>>61563861
Threadripper have 128PCIe? Threadripper have hardware encrypted virtualization? The 16 core EPYC is for low cost SERVER machines not Workstations/gaming pc.

>>61575689
pretty sure TR has half the pcie lanes as a EPYC. And all X-core epycs have full pci-e lane distribution

>>61565799
Yeah, damn sure 3200MHz ram have a huge impact in gaming performance.

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>>61553261
Delet this

>>61572265
>wccftech
>lies
How young are you, joao?

>>61574758
Damn, L1 cache is huge.

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>>61575270
NOOOOOOOOOO MUH GIGAHURTZ