/ptg/ - Private Tracker General

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Anime is life!
AB is true cabal!

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>>61539717

Guys I sent the PMed the Bib recruiter 15 minutes ago and I still haven't heard back from him. Should I be worried?

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>Grab some refreshments and we'll be right back.
>apl

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

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>>61539732

Anyone know what happened to pornplace.org? It had virtually nothing, but I was just trying to log in today to keep my account active.

>SCC down
>APL down
I see

>>61539920
I wonder if APL was forced to lie about their connection.

>>61539920
>https://sceneaccess.eu/
>https://apollo.rip/
holy shit, they literally both went down at the same time

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>>61539920
>>61539935

Why do they deny this? There is nothing wrong with staff running two separate torrent sites

Is there a program that searches all the private trackers you're on at once, and sorts the results per tracker?
For instance, if I want to download a torrent of GoT it shows up as being available on IPT, MTV and BTN

>>61539961
I'm on both apl and scc and this is the 5th or 6th time in the last few months that both sites have gone down at the same time. I've no idea why apl staff keep denying any connection between the two sites, but they do. see their last announcement.

>>61539974
why would you trust an app with your tracker login credentials?

>>61540024
They created the problem themselves, just like the whole cloudflare thing.
99% of the people don't even remember about cloudbleed anymore, moving away now won't do them any good.

>>61540047
If it's open source it's fine

>>61540047
people trust their credentials to autodl-irssi (or varroa now) all the time

>>61539961
>>61540024
>APL Staff
>Communicating
>Telling the truth
>Ever

sitewide freeleech on o*******e

>>61539920
>SCC back up
>APL back up
I see

>>61540108
where?

>>61540132
O*******e

>>61540123
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>61539954
they both came back up at the same time as well

>>61540140
oh ok

Whose pussy do I have to eat to get a gaytorrent.org invite?

>>61540192
I'm not sure you understand how this works, twinkie.

>>61540192
Are they cabal approved?

Guy who asked the question about avg seedtime on animebytes here.
DO NOT snatch airing anime from AB if you ever plan on using that account to get invites somewhere else
You will fuck your avg seedtime forever and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>61540331
just snatch thousands of tiny torrents and permaseed them, you'll get decent yen from it and your avg seedtime will go up

+ when the series ends you can try and upload them yourself as a pack or just seed the pack

>>61540363
still not worth it since you will have a lot of torrents that your max seedtime will be between 3 months to 1 week
Really fucking retarded that they can't even create a system that excludes avg seedtime from torrents you can no longer fucking seed

>>61540331
why would a recruiter use a flawed stat to decide whether to invite you

>>61540425
Private trackers aren't always the best combo with logic.

>>61540425
Official recruiters don't. But you won't get much from official recruitment threads on AB.
And users are retarded so they demand ridiculous stats that don't really show whether you're a good user or not

>>61540407
idk my man, if you snatch it all first day you'll end up with 6.5 weeks avg from the lot, which ain't too bad if you're only grabbing a show or two per season

I don't disagree though, maybe you should bring it up somewhere if it hasn't been already

>>61540445
>if you're only grabbing a show or two per season
the point of auto snatching airing anime is buffer so no point in doing for just two shows
for actual personal use is much more practical to just grab it from public trackers

>maybe you should bring it up somewhere if it hasn't been already
AB is a tracker that thinks giving devs in training nearly full access to the site db is a great idea so I hardly expect them to listen to reason

ptg is fucking dead

Alright. So finally got my seedbox set up. Where do i start collecting my good goy points?

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>>61540498
>is buffer
my bad, assumed we were talking about the intent to actually watch the stuff as opposed to just autosnatch for buffer; I missed the previous convo

>site db
しょうがない

>>61540814
snatch everything that you don't want

>>61540916
I don't want anything desu. I've already seen all the good movies and animes. When i want to get something in .flacc i go to rutracker. Although it would be nice to find 1 torrent with ALL of Buckethead's albums.

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>>61541055
>I've already seen all the good movies

>>61541315
Yep. Even Ryan Gosling and his love dramas are becoming gradually more shit with every new movie he stars in.

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can i join secret anime club?

>>61540838
>母より

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>join bt
>have to wait a week to see new torrents that aren't half a year old
for what purpose

>>61539961
Anything to keep the donations rolling

>>61539711
gib buttcoins pls b0ss

>>61541484
どうぞ、
...ああ、お母さん!

I was checking the queue of featured torrents on hdbits and at the bottom I found this: Corbin Fisher Select Pack 720p WEB-DL AVC AAC GAY
I didn't read the whole name of the release and clicked on it.
It's gay porn.
What kind of madman would spend 100 000 points to put this in the queue? Is it even going to make it, will they allow it?

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>>61540838
>mom still can't get it through her head that a girl with a feminine penis isn't a boy
Jeez mom, you just don't understand.

>>61541579
I was wandering how is it a benefit to the site but couldn't think of anything.

>>61541968
I think that it was something put in place for when the site was public with open registration.

Any /pure/ way into tehc or jps?

>>61542379
TEH recruits on MAM.

>>61542400
Thanks.

>>61542400
PU, right?
Hate the 4 weeks of waiting (more like 3 now but still).

>>61542533
PU + 6 months, buddy

How to get into AB

>>61542551
Fuck them.
Now I not sure if I should take the RED user invite or not.

>>61542558
send nudes of your waifu

>>61542558
Interview for red

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happy birthday degenerate weebs

So after AB, EMP, Bib, GGn, and MTV is there anything interesting in RED invite forum?
(Not taking, tehc or jpop, waiting for a /pure/ way in.)

>>61542600
Is this what happens when 4chan makes a tracker?

neon genocide when?

>>61542657
No, /g/tracker is what happens when 4chan makes a tracker.

Oppaitime is what happens when a couple 4channers make a tracker without 4chan

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>Day 18: Still waiting for that Bib invite

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>STILL no bib invite
Fuck me
/Cuckland/

>>61542711
>>61542716
#JusticeForAuckland

>>61542711
>>61542716
dumb cucklanders

Why the fug baka doesnt work through https?

>>61542760
I used LAPL actually

>>61542768
it does

>>61542711
Oh hey. I've also been waiting for 18 days

>>61542795
I got you now bitch
/marked/ and reported to ian...

>>61542812
Doesnt load for me. Have to disable https.

>>61542825
>implying nobody else used LAPL
you can't mark me, retard

>>61540786
/ptg/ wa mou... shindeiru

Do all of these Aukland cuckolds not have libraries in the cities? What the fuck?

>>61542954
They're people incapable of leaving their house or literal third worlders.

>>61542647
MTV > 500gb upload > TEHC recruitment /pure/
jpop > /pure/ is actually impossible now

>>61542954
overdrive isn't available anywhere in europe

Is Apollo ok now? Anything I should know?

>>61543035
>jpop > /pure/ is actually impossible now
Will it ever be possible again?
Also, do they even use treebans?

>>61543059
donate 0.1 BTC to know more!

>>61543069
It's extremely unlikely, but there's close-enough with unlimited-invite users, I guess. Never heard of anyone getting banned from jpop anyway.

>>61542954
my library card is paper
>>61543001
>non burger or australoid = third world
lel

>>61543139
You don't DESERVE to be on BIB, third world scum.

>>61543040
why are you lying

Real tracker list:

>Above the cabal
HDB
DB9
Exigo

>Cabal
PTP
BTN

>Aligned with cabal
BIB
RED
32P
AB
AHD
GGN

>Enemies
IPT
OT
SCC

>Curry
APL
AR

>>61542831
loads for me just fine, actually defaults to https

>>61543193
>Aligned with cabal
>RED
kek,

t Z

>>61543193
>SCC and APL in different categories

>>61543152
Denmark is first world unlike usa t.b.h.

>>61543216
fuck off back 2 REDdit, turd

>>61543193
Where is pedro

>>61543101
Have you seen anyone with unlimited invites on any invite forum?

>>61543237
Too bad you were too stupid to realize Auckland was a honey trap. Enjoy being global'd.

>>61543262
in the toilet

>>61543193
linguini and azacuck should make an alliance with the IPT jihadi to fuck over 312cuck

>>61543059
devs are rolling out the summer 2017 lottery. good luck to all!

>>61543281
I guess I'll try again on a different tracker, with a different name and email. good to know

Any way into Bib without thee fucking Overdrive? Not available in my shithole.

>>61543454
just use auckland and tell the recruiter you have access to any other library in the US

>>61543481
You mean lie or did you miss a word and you mean I should tell him I don't have access to any other library?

>>61543193
Why is OT under enemies?

>>61543510
lie. i suggest picking a small, rural library

>>61543514
Because they're an enemy of the cabal

>>61543538
Fuck I'm too scared to get blacklisted for life.

>>61543514
I think sysop hates 312cuck.

>>61543560
if he asks for screenshot proof, login to auckland and use inspect element to make it look like the library you picked

>>61543590
They'll also know my IP and I don't know which VPN isn't on their list.

>>61543634
so what? they don't care how you got access to overdrive, no need to hide your ip.

>>61543659
But I can only get it with Cuckland and they banned it thanks to ptg.
Is there really no way in for people from 3rd World countries? I'm slightly upset.

>>61543704
if you want to play it safe, there are some libraries in the US that offer membership to anyone by paying a one time fee, usually 50USD. you can find a list of them pretty easily through google

>>61543704
Move to a 1st world country

>>61543704
>>61543726
sorry, yearly, not one time

>>61543733
>burger
>1st world
hahaha

>>61543553
Why do private trackers act like they are in high school again?

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>>61543764
Is your country the worlds sole global superpower?
I didn't think so pleb.

>>61543820
>america defeating nazis
"1st world" education.

>>61543874
Who was that country who dropped the nukes and single highhandedly won WW2, & had the Axis shitting bricks...hmm?
Enlighten me anon.

>>61543908
>Who was that country who dropped the nukes and single highhandedly won WW2
hahhaha pls stop.

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>>61543908
>WE GOT DA NOOKS

why the fuck is the bib recruiter so slow??? and no, I didn't apply with cuckland.

>>61543977
You've been globally blacklisted

>>61543726
>>61543760
>stealing somebody's identity just to get a library access
You can't make this shit up.

>>61544025
nope, I know a few who had to wait almost a week for their invite

>>61544061
You. Have. Been. Globally. Blacklisted.

>>61544045
what? you don't need anyone's ID, you just give the library money and they email you library card# and pin

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>>61543977
Did you apply the first day?
I got mine in less than a 48 hours desu.

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stats

>>61544109
Kill yourself, degenerate.

>>61544114
fuck off nala

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>>61544114
more stats

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>>61544118
make me

>>61544096
They 'process' the info so I'm assuming they check you in national database.
They are meant for US residents after all. No way to input another country.

>>61544132
fuck off nala!

>>61543403
if you've ever seeded from the same IP cabal has marked your aliases as connected

>>61544175
this
How do you freaks thing they enforce exclusive content rules?

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>>61544130
>>61544151
yet more stats

>>61539961
it's also bad opsec

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>>61544114
soon

Apollo is dying.... How do we save her?

How the fuck do I use BBT forum? Registartion is closed and when trying to use BBT login it tells me that username doesn't exist.

>>61544277
DELETE DIS

>>61544291
>wanting to save pooloo

I have a vagina now

>>61544291
We can solve this problem for 0.5 BTC

FUCK BIB

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Does anyone know how to autodl on audionews?
It has no rss or any irc channel that i can find.

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>>61544345
>25,000 users
>FOR THE PEOPLE
>17 donations

>>61544384
look in the forums

>>61544384
>tfw no oscilloscope GF

>>61544384
Karen?

/ptg/ is my favorite idle game

finally made it to PU on AHD :party:

Should I try to get into AB, if I already have a BBT account?
Not sure if it's worth the effort of joining RED, and trying to get PU for a inv while they're recruiting

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>>61544866

Terry Davis uses private trackers!!!

Hopefully TempleOS will support BT soon

>>61545012
Which ones?
Sauce.

>>61543193
>>Above the cabal
>HDB
Are you retarded?

>>61545012
Who gives a shit about the paranoid schizophrenic. He is a known racist and animal abuser. Fuck him.

>>61542954
Nothing similar to overdrive in Saudi Arabia

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>>61545105
get out

>>61545113
Are you a cute girl? Show me your feet!

Is there any reason to be UHD on HDBits or is it just a dick waving contest to get user classes on there?

Also do you get into the Invite section after 4 weeks + becoming 1080i?

>Even with the FL nobody downloads anything on OppaiTime
for fuck sake

>>61545141
Hairy dude, will show feet for AB invite.

>>61545113
fuck off terrorist

>>61545160
do you fuck goats or donkeys?

Hi users of MTV!

It has been a while since our last announcement. Things have been busy managing the added userbase, overseeing auto-up bot updates, and general development work (we will share an official dev update with the userbase soon™).

As many of you are aware: The general problem with a truly ratiofree site will be the freeloaders. This has and always will be an issue. As such, we’ve reached a critical mass and will actively begin manually purging accounts we deem as abusive to our gentleman’s agreement we have here at MTV. Right now there are over 600 users that we have flagged as leech only accounts that do nothing to help our community. Please see here for the Wiki regarding seeding requirements.

We will not be disabling users that put forth a concerted effort to improve their stats or change their ways. Staff understands that shit happens. As such, we will be allowing a 1 month+ grace period before any actions are taken. THE PURGE WILL COMMENCE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST 2017.

If you feel you are borderline in this regard, you may hop into #Help on our IRC, or make a post in the forum asking for our insight. If you know you are down at the bottom of the barrel, we urge you to right that ship or your account will be forfeit soon.


Best Regards,
- MTV Staff

> RIP FREELEECH

>>61545155
I got people downloading from me right now, what are you talking about?

>>61545160
we're full!

>>61545257
Not true. User cap was just raised to 25k.

>>61545195
>keep seeding everything you download
>still below 0.1 since every complete season has a seedbox on it and you have a shitty connection
>your account was flagged and will be deleted because staff is too stupid to actually have clear ratio rules and pretends the site is ratioless

>>61545274
not it wasn't

>>61545195
How do you get into MTV anyway?

>>61545345
APL TM -> MTV

>>61545369


Yep, you also get in to HDBits the same way :D

>>61545369
now that you're done memeing, can I get a serious answer now?

>>61545307
Retard as staff say in the thread if you seed 100% your good. Stop talking out of your ass

If I got banned for accepting an invite from a giveaway can I just change my IP and use a different email to accept another?

>>61545403
Except I still have a warning on my account so clearly not

>>61545391
APL, RED, MAM and a few others

>>61545307
More than 500GB of upload still getting banned because I thought it was truly ratioless so I didn't bother building a buffer with my seedbox
Fuck this shitty tracker anyway I'm getting into BTN as soon as the interviewer comes back

>>61539711
are you retarded? 4 proxy servers + site server + irc server = 6 servers

>>61545414
Blaming someone else for beeing a noob, how very niggardly of you.

>>61545421
Guess I have a reason to join apooloo then

>>61545439
lol

>>61545448
>Hey guys we're ratioless just don't abuse our tracker
>Download stuff you want and keep seeding most of it
>Your ratio is 0.1? You clearly must be limiting your internet speed, there is no way in hell your ISP only gives you 20% of your download speed in upload

>>61545467
I'm elite on PTP faggot, not some loser sitting on a Teh account waiting 6months to go by

>>61539711
800 Yurobucks for a pirating

might as well get a usenet subscription

>>61545421
Ah nvm, for some reason I thought MTV was for the tracker MusicVids

>>61545502
post the HDB thread

>>61545195
This is hilarious
First post in the thread say "This is not about ratio"
3 posts later the admin is telling users how to check their ratio by hovering the percentile ratings

>>61545485
mine gives me 10%. I get 150 down and 15 up, but I have a seedbox.

>>61545579
>/mark yourself/ on the one site that really hates 4chan

>>61545599
say goodbye to your account buddy

>>61545601
pussy and you're not elite anyways, you'd be on BTN already otherwise

>>61545439
What's your ratio?
It can't be that hard to build some buffer

>>61545638
That's the hilarious part.
You can actually be a complete useless piece of shit and build a lot of buffer by just auto snatching everything and deleting 30m later

>>61545583
Well the user did say he didn't know where his ratio was.

>>61545673
not exactly
he asked how he could find out if he was doing well or not which the admin ignored because this is all about muh ratio

>>61545708
Are you ignoring the part where they said it's about 600 users and only those who heavily abuse the system. If you have and still think you will be pruned; I'm sure they wont miss you.

>>61545708
You're looking too much into it, the user said his ul/dl is fine anyway, it's just a simple question that the manager gave an answer to, guess he should have ignored the user instead.

>>61545734
>about 600 users
so half of their active userbase
>I'm sure they wont miss you.
last time I grabbed a torrent there was 5 months ago so I guess the feeling is mutual?

>>61545708
its really not
with a userbase their size 600 people is barely anything

theres probably a few hundred dickheads who downloaded terabytes of season packs and immediately deleted the torrents

It's so incredibly easy to get seedpoints on MTV that you should never, ever have a bad ratio.

MTV is cabal now

>>61545793
>you shouldn't have a bad ratio
>site is ratioless

>>61545793
t. someone who downloads a few hundred sub 10mb torrents and permaleeches then while HnR everything else
It's scum like you that deserves to be banned

>leeched a shitton of stuff
>ratio still above 1
don't know how you can fuck up so badly on that shitter

stats?

>>61545811
Yes!

>>61545790
>userbase their size
Now you're going to meme that MTV has a large userbase?

PTP recruitment on MTV starting August 1st!

>>61545902
>PTP will recruit on a site where the User Class Wiki page is empty

How can one site be so fucking based? I love MTV now.

>>61545834

Not sure if you're replying to me. I usually seed until a session pack is released and the individual episodes are deleted. That's why I have an assload of bonus points.

>>61546017
>muh retention
How about change the bonus point system to reward users who keep seeding big torrents more than those that seed those 4mb ones
>deleted it because it was too obvious the message came from staff
kek

>Recruitment caught up to: 17 May 2017
At this rate, I'll die before I get my invite

>Right now we have identified around 600 accounts that download a lot ( >3TB ) and delete it from their clients right away so they have a average upload of >50GB, and this is more just a warning for those people so they can have a chance of saving their accounts.
>So for anyone reading this: the amount of upload or ratio doesnt really matter as long as you atleast seed some of the things you download.
Why the fuck are you blowing it out of proportion?

On a sie note will 4chanX ever fix the bug here very often you have to reload to be able to post a second time in the same thread? Annoying as hell.

>>61546066
>Why the fuck are you blowing it out of proportion?
Too many shitters in /ptg/.

Made me check my new account and I see the tracker reports wrong numbers. They should fix that before starting a purge.

>>61546066
>have bug in program
>don't create bug report
Who is to blame?

>>61546093
Are you new? It's This is shitter general

where are you guys getting Bib invites???

>>61546066
>Eh. Rather than put out this rather disconcerting, negative statement that might make even "good" users feel like their account could be in jeopardy, why not just put a minimum seeding time in place so everyone's contributing to a minimum?
>I see absolutely no benefit to this gentlemen's agreement + purging system.
At least there is one other sane user on MTV

>>61546110
if you didn't get it within 8 hours then you're marked

>>61546098
I'm sure someone else reported it already, it's been an issue for a few weeks already.
Maybe I should roll back but I don't remember when it happened and don't feel like pinpointing what is the newest version without bugs.

Path to ScreamBitch?

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>>61546127
>I'm sure someone else reported it already
Are you?

>>61546135
APL ETM -> TO -> AoM -> SB

Lads I ate a Quaserito and a Cheesy Gordita Crunch for lunch, and I've been on the toilet for 30 mins now pushing out this big steamy apollo

The purging will continue until retention improves

>>61546158
So MTV is going to remove all their users

>>61546142
>Are you?
Yes, a lot of 4chanX users use FF and I'm just sitting on stable, must be happening to a lot of guys.

any trackers for auto software?

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>>61546189
I'm using firefox and have no problems.
https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x/issues

Anybody knows if JPS has treebans?
Since there's no official invites anywhere I might as well get a user invite, right?

>>61546227
Why do you want JPS?

>>61546226
I'm a winbaby though.
But plenty of /a/ uses 4chanX and there must plenty of other winbabies there.
Worst part is that it's not easily reproducible so it may never get fixed.

>>61542572
6 month waiting periods are pretty standard.

>>61546241
weeb music

>>61544866
Marked af.
How many people do you think eventually make it pu there. Just check the stats

>>61546227
They have tree bans, but it has to be serious before they resort to ti.

>>61545902
Yes!

>>61546227
just get an user invite yes

>>61546312
Fuck.
Will there ever be a /pure/ way in?
I don't want to get disabled only because my inviter was a retard.

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>>61546308
Staffers don't sit in /ptg/ marking people 24/7 autist. They have better things to do
It's just a meme

>>61546332
They recruit on Apollo. I'm dead serious.

>>61546332
you'll be fine, jpop is a pretty casual tracker compared to others

>>61546350
it's not recruitment, it's just a guy with infinite invites

>>61546358
well a guy with infinite invites, has to be trustworthy

>>61546350
Pretty funny.
Is apollo back already?
Also, and I don't believe I'm asking it: path to apooloo?

>>61546337
>They have better things to do
Nobody signs up to be private tracker staff unless they have a _very_ open schedule. I'm sure 312c finds time.

>>61546369
yeah, either him or from someone on AB

>>61546373
Apollo is alive, deploying new functionality, and they've resumed recruitment fucking everywhere there's an invite forum.

>>61546401
Well RED doesn't have official thread.
I want to keep my whole collection pure if possible.

>>61546337
>They have better things to do
no they don't
they dedicate most of their adult lives to running and managing private trackers
in comparison to the avg private tracker staffer the avg 4chan shitposter is very well adjusted

>>61546436
AHD staff is chill af

>>61546429
They don't on RED only because of the bad blood between them. That I'm aware of, they recruit or have recruited on:
- MaM
- TehC
- BTN
- GGn
- BIB
- HDB
- AB

>>61546452
>because of the bad blood between them
Did the staff fall for the ptg memes? Laughable.

6 months later and no-one has reported my youtube2flacs on apooloo yet

>>61546574
nobody has reported my vinyl->aac->mp3->flacs yet either

>>61546612
and my axe

>>61546574
>>61546612
people like you are scum

>>61546634
Haha I understood this reference

>>61546452
>bad blood

APL has been about as sketch as NoStream at this point.

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>tfw waking up
>tfw waking up to the realization I've seen all anime

>>61546709
Not What = No Stream

>>61546727
D E L E T
E
L
E
T

>>61546727
The only thing NotWhat's sketch at is keeping a site alive by not making retarded declarations such as "EAC IS DEAD".

>>61546738
Our boy said its true!

>>61546066
You don't have to refresh actually. There's a perfect work around. At least that's what I use.

>>61546785
>There's a perfect work around.
Pray tell.

Can I sign up for a tracker using phone data?

>>61546792
I'm a non-believer actually

>>61546804
Are you ESL too?
In all seriousness I would really appreciate it if you shared the workaround.

>>61546804
kys

>>61546813
While yes I am an ESL but I can speak and understand English just fine.

>>61546817
rude

>>61546923
1)look up 'pray tell'
2)now I know you were just messing with me about the workaround

>>61546948
I don't need to look it up. I am well aware of its usage.

>>61546956
then don't engage in retarded 'jokes'

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>>61546975
rude

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>>61546988
Sorry.

>>61546988
dumb animeposter

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>>61547007

>>61547007
I'm far from dumb.

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>>61547051
>AHD
no

>>61547200
/

morphine is a dick breath moron

>>61547246
congrats moron! you killed the thrad!

>>61547555
just like I killed your moms pussy last night

so why hasnt demonotaku been shitposting on red? i thought he couldnt keep his mouth shut.

>>61547628
he knows he'll get globalled if he shitposts on red

>>61547628
he's stupid but not that stupid, in his pea brain it'd be like "losing" against /ptg/ if he gets banned

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>>61547628
Zed couldn't handle his pointed criticism and muted him

>>61547628
he's probably banned from the forums

>>61547628
He got warned and despite how much shit he talked about RED he really wants to keep his account.

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>>61547628

my friend told me i could join RED via recruitment if I'm Elite Torrent Master of APL. Is dis true?

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Send email. I will totally $100% send you one.

>>61547865
how about you invite me to PTP instead, niggershit?

>>61547865
[email protected]

I'll be waiting for my .ro invite

>>61547865
[email protected]

>>61547865
>wanting to be on a meme site

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>>61547865
>India not banned

>>61540024
They had a hard time getting people to donate to SCC and didn't have that problem with people donating to APL so they just keep it goin'

Please migrate
>>61547947
>>61547947
>>61547947
>>61547947

>>61547865
[email protected]

>>61545192
Causing pain to animals is haram except when killing them for food but even then it should be minimal.

>>61547865
[email protected]
Do the needful sir