/wt/ Watch Thread

>>61492866
>real men who fuck bitches wear mechanical watches

>seiko quartz watches are for illegal immigrants to wear

>>61492825

>>61492916
Those look like shit on everyone, regardless of wrist size.

First for pussy magnets.

>>61492929
What would be a good alternative? I like the square G-shocks.

>>61492916
how small are your wrists?

>>61492948
Casio makes some smaller digitals as well. If you don't mind going vintage, Seiko's digitals can look pretty sweet, too.

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>>61492956
About 6.5-7 inches at the narrowest point.

>>61492962
You mean something like this?

Looking to buy a watch for my 7 year old son, preferably diver, any recommendations? Case diameter 38 mm.

>>61493057
Sure, but those are usually rather pricey.

>>61493069
Can I get one for ~$60-70?

>>61493065
Get him something from Vostok.

>>61493065
JLC Deep Sea

>>61493112
He said to buy him something not sell his son.

>>61493057
Just get the g shock. I have 6.5" and have worn similar sized casios just fine.

>>61493124
Got pics?

>>61493080
Probably not, look at different models. Just searching for "seiko digital" on ebay should present you with a lot of options.

>>61493085
they make 38mm vostoks? sauce?

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>>61492866
How'd I do for 30€? I wanted something which I could mistreat without worries

>>61493237
meranom.com

>>61493112
thanks for nothing

Isn't a quartz Submariner knockoff the best watch for a casual?

>>61493065
Cheap end casio makes some 100m plastic diver style watches suited for a kid.

If you wanted mechanical you could get a 38mm Seiko SKX013. A true dive watch with 200m water resist.

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I got my DW5600E.

Does it have any easter-egg functions like the F-91W?

>>61493304
What Easter egg functions does the terrorist watch have?

>>61493318
Explodes

>>61493237
420 case amphibia is 39mm.

That's a good size for a full grown adult to wear as a diver.. Start your son of with shitty taste by wearing watches that are way too large for him.

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>>61493318
>CASIo
>test every segment
>IED detonator mode

>>61493318
It costs less than an Easter Egg.

>>61493389
Are you saying the watch can be programmed to send electrical signals which can be used to detonate bombs?

>>61493214
Seems like all the cool retro ones are expensive as fuck.

>>61493304
Can you post a pic of it on your wrist? Also, how much did it cost?

>>61493431
It is called ALARM CLOCK

>>61493470
Generally, but it's eBay, you can find some deals.

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>>61493431
Yes, but pretty much every digital watch with an alarm can be. It's just very basic electronics really, I bet that's why the F-91W was actually standardized withing Al-Qaeda, you don't need bomb-making geniuses to use them, just print some instruction sheets on what wire goes where on an F-91W.

I wonder if any dumb kebabs blown themselves up because they accidentally got a fake F-91W with a different, chink PCB.

>>61493482
Not right now. $60.

>>61493538
Do you have small wrists?

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>>61493279
Yes, pic related.

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>>61493482
Here's a pic of my 5610 on my 7.25" wrist

>>61493588
ew

>>61493574
No, it's night here, I don't have any good light.

>>61493389
Cool clock, Ahmed.

>>61493431
Well yeah you just hook up the alarm circuit to a detonator and you have an easy timed detonator.

>>61493610
Your wrists look like they have some fat on em. Mine are skinny as fuck, coupled with oversized hands. I guess I'll have to find one and try one on before I get it.

Also, is yours the one with the auto-update time option, where it synchronizes itself automatically? How long does the battery last in that thing?

>>61493636
Post pics when you get the chance.

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>>61493588

>>61493610
my penis is .25'' thinner than your wrist
TINY

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>>61488197
Seiko G757. Have fun paying for the combined James Bond and Metal Gear tax though.

>>61493751
ew

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>>61493795
Oh, and the Citizen Ana-Digi Temp series too.

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>>61493795
Not with that attitude.

>>61493858
I'm pretty tempted to pick up one of the "broken" ones off of eBay and see if it just needs a new battery. I'm pretty sure someone here did exactly that.
Shit maybe it was you.

>>61493889
I didn't, mine was already functional (albeit with a shitty Chinese battery that needed replacing). Most common issue is the screen not working, requiring cleaning or other tweaking of the zebra connector.

>>61493978
>zebra connector
Oh god, no wonder they fail.

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>>61493279
you mean auto

>>61494104
Most everything involving compact electronics and tiny LCD's use zebra connectors.

>>61494190
I know, and it sucks.

>>61494203
What else can you use even?

>>61494159
Not all Parnis watches use Miyota movements though.

>>61494226
Straight connection with a very short length of ribbon cable? I've seen that in various devices. Anything is better than conductive fucking rubber just sitting on both contact points.

>>61493852
tfw I haven't worn mine since DST changed because I forgot how to set the fucking thing

Opinions on Zenith

>>61493700
It does have radio sync yeah, it does it most nights. It's also solar so no need to worry about the battery.

>>61494329
>Opinions on Zenith

Good quality watches that are actually "Swiss Made" with in house everything.

Big problem is that they're owned by the same assholes who own FAG Heuer and they're softer than shit second hand. Big bonus is that LMVH are good about selling parts to independent watch makers.

>>61493304
Have same, is fire.

Where can I find straps where there are "notches" cut near the lugs, so strap is actually wider than the lug width it's designed to fit?
Particularly straps that fit 18mm lug widths.

>>61494729
Do it yourself with a knife.

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>post nice looking collections

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>>61495069
What the fuck.

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>>61495069

>>61495102
holy shit

>>61495102
it's Dr Strange

>>61492916
get the blacked out military one instead and add bull bars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaZ5frKL9Iw&t=1m30s

>>61495407
>bull bars
But he already got bull for his gf?

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>>61493065
casio duro diver

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>>61495425
That thing is 48mm, what a dick.

>>61493065
Try looking for vintage divers, this one was 34mm.

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>>61492866
Me with proof. It's a Tissot COSC 2895-2 Chronometer.

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>>61495565
cont

>>61495565
Nice. How much money?

>>61495565
Nice watch, wrong wrist.

>>61495102
>all that space wasted in shitters

>>61495102
This would look a hundred times better if he had varnished the wood.

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>>61495069

>>61495614
Thanks. About $1300 or so but you can't really find it anywhere as it's limited edition.

>>61495808
>3333 pieces
>limited
kek'd

Also
>1300 for a Tossit
double kek'd

>>61495704
is that you lawyerfag?

>tfw you own several superb watches but still get the urge to spend money on a shitter every now and then


I need to stop giving the swatch group my money.

>>61495916
No. I'm just uploaded his collection because his is the most awesome ever posted in here by far.
I wish he'd come back.

>>61495928
post what you've got faget

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>>61493065
Christopher Ward do a 38mm version of the Trident. Here's a pic of mine.

>>61496320
I would like CW's designs more if their "logo" didn't suck total ass. Seriously, who the fuck thought "Chr.WARD" would look good on a watchface?

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Stowa special edition Flieger with a highly decorated Unitas 6497 manual wind movement. Jorg Schauer is one of the best in the biz, and German watches in general are usually top notch. I am totally lusting for one of these fliegers, or possibly the Marine.....

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>>61496363
They use a different logo now, with the full name typed out at 9 o'clock.

>>61496544
That's better, but still not very good.

>>61496578
Indeed, Rolex & Tudor could take a lesson from them on the amount of text needed on a dial though.

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>>61496695
Agreed, the Precision has got it right, though.

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What does /wt/ think of my new lumed ceramic bezel insert for my SKX009?

>>61496440
>German watches
You mean outsourced Chinese cases with low-end Swiss movements slapped in them and pawned off on irredeemable cucks like you, yes?

>>61496544
Wow they managed to make it even worse, looks like absolute chinkshit Arial font trash.

>>61496719

Looks nice

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>>61495964
he's too good for us

r8 me boys

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>>61496363

>>61496867
>more money than taste or sense, the picture

>>61496901
Lamborghini is one of the last to make NA engines that actually sound good, but I doubt that's why the nigger bought it

>>61496928
Indeed. I think I only see one nice looking Rolex out of the entire set.

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>>61496867

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>>61496867

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>>61495069

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>>61495069

>>61494227
that one does

>>61497090
2 poor

>>61497492
>
Now that is nice.

>>61497492
That Rolex looks like an all-gold Datejust but it just says Date, is that a really old reference or what? I thought only Day-Dates came in all gold. Those are all super nice, but what would you even do with 8 dress watches anyway that's so excessive. They all have the same strap, too.

>>61497816
This is how they used to be sold.

>>61497816
http://www.vintagegoldwatches.com/product/rolex-oyster-perpetual-date-1965/

>>61497816
> it just says Date, is that a really old reference or what?
Yes. It's an very early 1960's model.

> They all have the same strap, too.
I have other straps, that was just what I had fitted at the time of the photo.

>>61497492
Can anyone ID bottom left most watch?

>>61497944
it's an early IWC

>>61497342
What is the reference number on these? I know this belongs to someone who posts here.

>>61497951
Thank you.

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>>61492825
They're wide but short so they look fine.

>>61493304
They do but I forgot how you do it.

>>61493065
Get him a beater, I wouldn't trust a 7-yr-old with anything above $100 yet

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CARNIVAL-Watches-Men-Business-Luxury-Sport-Automatic-Date-Mechanical-Steel-Watch-Luminous-Mens-Tourbillon-Top-Brand/32784956717.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/40MM-SANGDO-luxury-brand-men-s-watch-Sapphire-mirror-waterproof-zhang0264b-best-watch-2015-new-fashion/2010678589.html

http://www.alpha-watch.com/sub2.php?list=19&list2=3

>>61493065
Tisell/Parnis

>>61493065
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PARNIS-GMT-Sapphire-Glass-Self-Wind-movement/32794659044.html

Nomosfag from the last thread, why the hate for Nomos? Because Stowa makes essentially the same watch for ~$700 less?

>>61499452
Salty that the price got jacked up, people automatically have to hate stiff that Reddit likes, generally repetitive and bland designs. They are also all paying homage to watches made something like 100 years ago, but since no other company had made that style for decades, it is pretty much a non-issue.

>>61499452
Nomos dramatically increased their prices after becoming a darling brand of blogs, reddit, WUS - even /wt/ was very positive on them. Their design has started to feel pretty stale to me at least at this point. Their case finishing and shape (particularly their lugs) is not obviously commensurate with their price now.

>>61499506
>>61499530
Didn't know about that price hike. I'm a big fan of the design, but I also hadn't really seen the Bauhaus style done on a luxury watch before. I'll be going in to a store tomorrow to get a feel for how they actually look on my wrist, but doubt I'll actually purchase one.

>>61499530
can you post a price history?

>>61500027
>Bauhaus style
nit: it's Bauhaus inspired, not Bauhaus.
their designers have no connection to the actual Bauhaus school at all.

closest you get to real Bauhaus is prolly Junghans Max Bill.
Max Bill (the designer; not the watch) at least studied under some actual Bauhaus designer.

>>61499452
I want to like them. Looking at the site now really hard to like most of them. The majority of the case finishing looks like timex weekender quality. Soft edged shit. There are fucking Seiko 5's with crisper quality looking edge work on the case. Movements are decorated pretty good though.

>>61500953
which seiko 5?

>>61500953
>The majority of the case finishing looks like timex weekender quality.
so you can't tell brass and stainless steel apart but want to talk about the finish?

If you don't now a digital Casio watch, you're doing something wrong.

>>61501092
He's clearly just exaggerating m8. Or did you think he was actually comparing a nomos to a weekender in complete seriousness? Or did you skip over the expansion of the thought where he was talking about the sharpness of edges?

>>61499452
>Nomosfag from the last thread, why the hate for Nomos? Because Stowa makes essentially the same watch for ~$700 less?
No, because DW makes essentially the same watch for ~$100?
normfags will not be impressed with your fake DW.

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>>61501092
My point is about the refinement of the case edges. The best looking case quality from them seems to be the Orion. The others could use a little more definition.

>>61500997
Maybe a stretch on my part but even then you have the SARB's and other midrange offerings with great attention to case finishing for the price. Honestly with the decent movement decoration Nomos does I am shocked they don't go the extra mile on the cases.

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Anon collector here. Hello

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>>61501337

>>61501337
You gonna post a full collection pic or what?

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>>61501356

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>>61501405

>>61501405
Interesting dial texture. I'm disappointed that there are cut-off markings, even thought they were tiny to begin with.

>>61501442
I really don't mind them. Except the 20 min marker and 40 min marker are missing one number.

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Lads are skeleton watches a meme?

Want to cop this but struggling to pull the trigger....

found a good deal - wat do

>>61501463
Sorry if I wasn't clear, that is what I meant.
I prefer the aesthetics of watches that keep the tourbillon visible only through the case back, such as the Reverso platinum number two and the datagraph perpetual tourbillon. I'll likely never buy a tourbillon anyway, but I prefer the movement to stay off of the dial.

>>61501337
>>61501356
>>61501392
>>61501405
>>61501435
I know I could never afford any of those but honestly they are some ugly watches.

>>61501179
>caring about what normalfags think
What are you even doing here?

>>61501337

What are you collecting? Photos of watches you don't own?

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>>61501576
I dont think any of them are ugly. They have their own unique aesthetic that makes them unique to their brand.

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>>61501724
Sorry that your career won't let you afford these.

>>61501566
Borrow a skeleton watch from a friend. Wear it for a week. You will realise they are a bad meme.

>>61501745
Aside from the two JLCs those were all gaudy shit. No need to be a snobby cunt over them.

>>61501745

Who goes to a dealer and proceeds to take a photo of every single watch, not even on the wrist to see how it looks? Didn't put the panerais on because they would show off your skelly wrist?

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>>61501895
Make fun of me please!

>>61496791
Thanks m8.

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>>61501940

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>>61501948
Make more fun of me please!

>>61501405
>wristlet
>panerai

>>61501745
>is clearly trying on watches from a dealer
Nice bait m8

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>>61501852

Obviously it's retarded to have a skelly as your daily watch, but as an occasional piece to add some variety to the collection?

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>>61502120
Skeleton watches are very rarely done right. Pic related is one such case.

>>61501566
Skeleton watches are gay, just get a display caseback if you want to watch the movement at work.

>tfw just a 6.3inch wrist
End me

>>61502491
Get vintage.

>>61502491
Do some lifting and you will get a larger wrist

thoughts on Nautica watches?

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>>61502684

>>61502684
Changed batteries in quite a few now, they're mostly Fossil or Festina-tier. Definitely not worth the money.

Also see >>61502697

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For the anon who wanted a wrist-shot of my DW-5600E. I believe I have "medium" wrists, and it's definitely not too big. Also it has kind of a cyberpunk aesthetic IRL, maybe I should start wearing a trenchcoat, a Powerglove, 80's Nike's and a Gameboy.

The Amphibia should be there for scale, but I admit it's kinda misleading since it's not a modern 090-case, but an old, smaller 2209 movement model.

>>61502897
Also since I got it off Ebay, I couldn't let it rest and I opened it up just now, despite the seller being in the US, and reputable, selling a bunch of other Casios as well. Of course the movement inside is genuine Casio, so it's not a fake.

I was already 99% sure, but I just couldn't let it rest. Of course I'll have it pressure tested in a minute.

>>61497492
what model is the jaeger?

>>61503040
Master Calendar.

My old digital watch broke, what should I get for maximum swag?

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>>61503121

Can someone post the photo of the different luxury watch finishing ratings?
Regards

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>>61503575
This one?

are there any acceptable Tag Heuers?

is it just the Monaco?

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>>61503628

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>>61492866
The best watch under $10 is probably the Casio F-91W. What is the best watch under $20?

>>61503628
The Monaco is an ugly piece of shit, the Aquaracer is the only slightly acceptable TAG.

>>61503601
Yes thanks

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>>61503676
Casio W86.

>>61503628
This should be in the fucking OP.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pOtkAa1iqQ

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this is stupid as hell, but I totally want one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX73AbMrX7c

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>>61503705
>Casio W86
I can't find them for sale in regular online stores or on the Casio website, and none of the eBay offerings are that cheap once you add in shipping.

>>61502345

yeah, most skellys look like they looked at a Richard Mille and said "I can do better than that"

>>61503791
Sorry I read it as £20, they are that cheap here.

>>61503784
200 LUMENS OF TACTICOOL LIGHT
>I now want one and would actually use it for work lighting

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>>61503676

>>61502897
Thanks for posting this. You look like you have slightly thicker but babby wrists with no hair. I guess I could pull one of too.

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>>61503839
I can agree with that, I actually own one of those. It was a gift and is essentially the watch that got me back into wearing watches.

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>>61503784
Hey Steven, when are your next 5 movies coming out?

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>>61492866
What's a good Seiko automatic for babbys first automatic? Preferably below $150.

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>>61503121

>>61503872
>walking with so little trigger discipline you're doing a magdump into the sand without noticing
Is this a real cover?

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>>61504004
They all are like this (the Sniper one is slightly shopped tho)

>>61504026
Why do studios invest money in movies like this? Do they turn a profit?

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>>61504050
Might just be a front for the SVR. Dumb Seagal probably doesn't even know.

>>61503894
Spend a little more & get an SKX, if not either that or one if the other 7 trillion Seiko 5s will be a good choice.

>>61503894
SRP553K1 or a uni with the same movement.

>>61497934
That is a beautiful and tasteful collection. Those straps are perfectly suited to the watches btw.

>>61502569
that is incorrect.

>>61503867
you realize you can replace the crystal on that watch with mineral glass or plastic for like 5 dollars right?

>>61504050
They're popular overseas apparently, though I forget which countries like them.

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>>61504375
I did not. Any advice on doing this?

>>61504512
nvm i am retarded that watch costs 15 dollars which is cheaper than a crystal press.

>>61504512
Take it to a watchmaker/jeweller and say "could you replace the crystal on this watch please?"

>>61504272
>Spend a little more & get an SKX
Spend a little more & get a turtle
non-shit movement that's more accurate, doesn't need hours to change the day-date, can hack and wind.

>>61504512
http://www.esslinger.com/watch-crystals/

>>61503326
I think I like this (>>61503995) more, it's not so extra

>>61504544
I want to learn to replace crystal on other watches, too, so I'm willing to save up for tools.

>>61504549
I'd rather /diy/, thanks, though.

>>61504566
Thanks, I'll check it out when I get home in a few hours. I'm going to an auction with some old watches, hopefully I can get something cool.

>>61504658

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Watch-Crystal-Pressing-Case-Bezel-Closng-Press-Pliers-Tool-Watch-Repair-Tools/32393153759.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10065_10151_10068_10130_10084_10308_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10178_10137_10111_10060_10112_10113_10155_10114_10154_438_10056_10055_10054_10310_10182_10059_100031_10099_10078_10079_10103_10073_10102_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051,searchweb201603_13,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=118d3221-ab65-417b-be91-
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Hey /wt/
What kind of a casio digital watch should i get for maximum pussy?
I already have the a158.

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comments?

>>61504849
here did you get that leather strap,looks dope.

>>61504849
a168.
bigger is better, just ask her.

>>61504883
where*


>>61504874
I would wear it

>>61504874
It always looked to me that Wenger was the better knife company when it came to watches, over Victorinox. I have no idea if Wenger's watch department is still independent from Victorinox like how Orient is from Seiko.

>>61504874
>Swiss Made upside down
Utter dogshit.

>>61504893
The strap came with a other watch, now that i looked for it on ebay i can say it is fake leather made in china, wears really nicely though as it's not as thick as most leather straps.

>>61504888
Too similar

>>61504926
>now that i looked for it on ebay i can say it is fake leather made in china
Yes I get what you are saying,it looks thicker than it is on the picture.

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>>61504849
http://www.gshock.com/watches/Others/DW5600BB-1

>>61499530
>Nomos dramatically increased their prices after becoming a darling brand of blogs, reddit, WUS - even /wt/ was very positive on them.
Ah yes, I'm sure it had nothing to do with them investing several million Euros into developing the capacity to design and manufacture movements in-house, including even hairsprings and escapements. I'm sure capital investments totalling several million Euros aren't that large for a firm making 10,000-20,000 units a year.

Just take a look at the price differences between Damasko's ETA powered watches and their in-house models and you'll see the exact same kind of increase in price from one to the other that you saw with Nomos, because developing the capacity to make movements in-house including escapements today is very expensive. Virtually all the other production watchmakers with the capacity to develop and manufacture all in-house movements developed that capacity in the pre-quartz era (eg. Vostok, Citizen, Seiko, ETA, Rolex/Tudor etc).

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>>61505139
The summoning ritual took longer than usual it seems

>>61499452
Nomos is the best value for money for brand new watches. In-house, well adjusted and decorated movements for the price that you'd pay for a """""modified"""" ETA with most ""swiss"" brands.

Most of they're deisgns are Bauhaus, and some people just don't like this aesthetic.

But the movements are excellent, especially for the price.

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>>61505171
Nomos is cool, since they have neat design detail in their movements, and they supply parts to independents (which is a total bro move), but Homo-shill anon makes me hate them with a passion.

Pic related on their ingenuity, they know how awful date windows are that are mid way between the edge and the center of the dial, so they made the date disk sit on the edge of their in-house movement.
http://watchguy.co.uk/service-nomos-tangente-gangreserve-%ce%b4-delta-615/

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>>61505139
>>61505236

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiqtFAKQHlk

>>61505139
most of Nomos watches still don't use their in-house movement. (alpha/beta/.. are modified Peseux 7001 for a three-quarter plate)
most of the time you would have to go to their neomatik series for a proper in-house DUW 3001, which destroys the aesthetic.
so basically you now pay more than double for the Nomos Tangente, but little did it change.

>>61505295
>Pic related on their ingenuity
no quickset dates makes that construction utter bullshit and you replaced some awfulness with a greater

>>61505171
Look, I'm not suggesting anyone has to like Nomos, or like their styling, or like their case/dial/hand finishing. I'm personally not a big fan, actually.

But to say that their price increases were for no reason is ridiculous when a company of their size had to invest close to 10 million Euro to develop the capacity to be a true manufacture watchmaker.

Literally the exact same scale of price increases happened at Damasko when they did the same thing (though I'd argue Damasko's movements are technically superior they also could free-ride off the owners industrial conglomerate).

Unfortunately, it turns out that making watches with relatively high-grade in-house manufacture movements on a production basis isn't particularly cheap. But it is something that people who care about horology should welcome, because it contributes to the watchmaking art.

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opinions?

Nineball ping me if you show up I need to talk to you about your Habring. Keep trying last few threads but you seen sparse.

>>61495069
i guess this is OCD in the form of a collection

>>61505342
I'm a big fan of mine.

>>61495690
looks like a college woodworking project

>>61496578
in what world is that better? it looks like comic sans

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>>61496695
Tudor Geneve Pelagos Chronometer Officially Certified Rotor Self-Winding 500m 1540ft Swiss Made

A fashion thread on /g/?

>>61496719
i think that unless you put in a 4r36, you wasted a lot of money on a complete shitter with a movement from 2 decades ago that doesn't even handwind let alone hack like all the competition in that price range do. does look good though

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>>61505139
I actually like Nomos more now, for some reason when they only had a few select models they seemed a bit stale to me and a Tangente was just a bit...joyless. Then came models like pic related and I liked them a lot more.

>>61496928
driving a ferrari used to hard with straight cut gears but now any dumb nigger can jump in a sports car and drive it with less effort than a nissan micra.

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Post your grails!

>>61505312
>But to say that their price increases were for no reason is ridiculous when a company of their size had to invest close to 10 million Euro to develop the capacity to be a true manufacture watchmaker.
nomos is not a non-profit.

founding the company has way more capital-intense and you hadn't any prior profits to re-invest nor would it have been easy to raise debt.
so please do explain the past low prices.

seeing is nomos is non-public you have no idea if the biggest reason for the price hike was not to increase their profit margin.

>(though I'd argue Damasko's movements are technically superior they also could free-ride off the owners industrial conglomerate)
nomos owner made his money elsewhere too.

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>>61497090

>>61505736
When did a Ferrari road car last have straight cut gears?

>>61505699
Bezel only cost $45, hardly breaking the bank.

>>61505899
That adds an extra 20% onto the cost of the watch though.

Gonna go try the pelagos lhd today

>>61505922
Would you argue that the Bezel isnt roughly 20% of a completed watch?

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>>61505741

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>>61505741

>>61506107
Definitely a watch you either love or hate. I hate it.

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>>61505741

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>>61506173

i think i tend to love those sorts.

another of my grails:

>>61506107
The lack of symmetry in the screws is triggering my OCD

Fuck sex nigga blowjob gay anal rape

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>>61506214

here, have a Royal Oak to save your 'tism

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>>61505741

Is he right, /wt/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agAKUbFbrY4

Is it supposed to hurt?

>>61506261
No. I know that persona is an act but he's still an annoying fuckwit.

>>61506260
Looks like those vintage landeron 48 chronos, though it's probably the other way round.

>>61505752
>founding the company has way more capital-intense and you hadn't any prior profits to re-invest nor would it have been easy to raise debt.
so please do explain the past low prices.

That's simple: You are totally wrong that founding a watch company that mostly assembles parts is more capital-intensive than one that manufactures their movements down to the hairspring. The proof is literally every micro-brand in existence in the watch world, which can get by with as little as a single office depending on how much work they outsource.

>seeing is nomos is non-public you have no idea if the biggest reason for the price hike was not to increase their profit margin.

Actually, yes I do have an idea because it only takes a little back of the envelope math for anyone with the slightest business experience to make obvious just how much of a change in Nomos' cost structure that ~10,000,000 Euro investment respresented:

Nomos makes ~10,000-20,000 watches per year

A 10 million Euro investment in R&D and capital equipment for a company producing an annual unit volume of 10,000-20,000 units is massive. That doesn't even include the additional unit manufacturing costs for manufacturing the movements themselves (given the tiny volume compared to ETA components produced in the hundreds of thousands per year).

>nomos owner made his money elsewhere too.
My point about Damasko is that the owner's primary line of work is literally the high precision manufacturing of fine metal components used in stuff like the aerospace industry. This means he already owned a lot of the necessary equipment for manufacturing movements.

This made it much more feasible for Damasko to start their entry into in-house movements with a silicon balance, silicon escapement, free sprung, gyromax balance design.

>>61505779
they moved from straight cut to regular manuals and then to automatics. i'm not saying the technology isn't superior, but sports cars used to have heavy clutches and require skill to drive

>>61506250
>royal oak
>posts nigger shit

ok

Daini Seikosha did everything better than nomos does.

Anybody here have experience with stingray leather bands? Been thinking about getting one for my dive watch. Yea yea I know leather and diver but it works thematically.

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>>61505741

It's just outside of what I consider an acceptable price for any watch in my personal budget.

>>61506912

One of my life goals is to physically fight a large stingray in its own element.

>>61506953
>Automatique

>>61506107
Minute repeaters are my latest fetisch. I hate the Zeitwerk dial though.

>>61507040
Automatisch isn't as sexy i guess

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>>61505741
>>61506953
>>61506953
These are very nice
Grail is pic related

>>61506415
>Actually, yes I do have an idea because it only takes a little back of the envelope math for anyone with the slightest business experience to make obvious just how much of a change in Nomos' cost structure that ~10,000,000 Euro investment respresented:
where do you even get that number from?

i don't even think your timeline matches:
nomos price hikes started way before their own movement.
nomos tangente did cost DEM 980 in 1991, so like $590 or €500.
now it costs €1420. that's almost 3x.

nor is it good business practice to raise prices of your old products to subsidize your new products. what exactly happened to their old profits?
looking at Germany's bond market, they likely could get €10 million for next to no interest. combine that with their two digit growth rates and they certainly would not die if they didn't raise prices.

anyway would like more financial hard facts.

>>61506912
One anon made one, blue with yellow stitching if I remember correctly.

>>61506912
i'm probably going to put a really expensive dresswatch on one just to annoy leatherfags

>>61506953
How much is that?

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>>61505741
GRAIL

>>61507141

A little over $6k, used.

>>61507171
>Let's make the seconds hand tick slow and then add a subdial that spins super fast for no reason

>>61507266

I think it's supposed to convey that it's a chronograph.

Is Chronext actually a reputable seller? I understand it's in the grey market, but it still raises red flags for me.

>>61507297
It's a foudroyante, not a chronograph.

>>61507297

No pushers, not likely a chrono

>>61506415
>Nomos makes ~10,000-20,000 watches per year

>A 10 million Euro investment in R&D and capital equipment for a company producing an annual unit volume of 10,000-20,000 units is massive.

some analyst in 2014 put Nomos at €50 million revenue:
http://www.manager-magazin.de/unternehmen/karriere/entrepreneure-des-jahres-2014-nomos-glashuette-a-1001987.html

let's say 20% profit margin and just re-investing your profits gets you those €10 million in a year.

>>61507103
>anyway would like more financial hard facts.

http://quillandpad.com/2014/04/09/bravo-nomos-how-the-metro-will-change-the-watch-game/

>If you think this is small beans, then digest the fact that Nomos Glashütte has thus far invested more than €11 million into the Swing System, including the machinery required for in-house production.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/introducing-nomos-metro-in-house-swing-system-escapement

>Nomos wanted to free itself from these shackles and invested 12 million Euro in the development of the Swing System, its own house-made escapement, over the course of a seven-year collaboration with a technical university.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/inside-nomos-glashutte

>NOMOS is a small independent watch brand of roughly 260 employees based in Berlin and Glashütte

>The end goal of the DUW 3001 was to create an all-in-house movement that was very thin (3.2 mm to be exact), could be produced in high quantities, and boast the “accuracy worthy of a chronometer,” all for the same $3,000 to $5,000 price point. With this in mind, the in-house research and development team was able to create this novel movement for the brand that would eventually cost the brand about €15 million to produce.

So a company employing 260 people making 10,000 - 20,000 watches a year investing 10-12 million Euro to develop the capacity to design and manufacture their own escapements and another ~2-3 million Euro in developing the DUW 3001 caliber (and the DUW 4401 handwind version) is a pretty big investment by any reasonable standard.

They could have spent half that much on marketing like all the other Chinese cased ETA shitter brands out there and probably made more money.

>>61505410
'Sup?
My Habring is a piece of dogshit. It does not and cannot even keep proper time and has shitty power reserve.

Last time I got it serviced, I literally had to get fucked up the ass to pay off the service charge.

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>>61493588
Go mine 2 days back, makes for a good beater watch

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>>61507658
>>61507719

Saying that NOMOS spent a lot of money making their Jewish Bauhaus faggot watches therefore means that that you should respect them is like saying I should respect or have "some appreciation for" behind the person who made this because it cost $10,000,000.

>>61507719
>They could have spent half that much on marketing like all the other Chinese cased ETA shitter brands out there and probably made more money.
following the in-house fad gives you a lot of free marketing.
now that their movement is in-house they can outsource other parts to China and still meet the 51% made in Glashütte requirement.
also notice the price-hikes for Swiss movements and Swatch limiting ETA output. don't have such problems with in-house and other components aren't as critical and can be sourced from multiple suppliers, so costs can be kept low.

also not really such a big investment, see >>61507658

thinking a for-profit company did not choose the option that will make them the most money is absurd. they just didn't go for the fast money, but long-term.

>>61508334
I want /pol/ to leave.

>>61508676
?

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What are you wearing today?

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>>61508823

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>>61508823

>>61508853
nice watch

>>61508899
I gotta get a diver.. Not sure what i am going to go with.

>>61508676
Who are you even talking to.

>>61507266
It's a unique complication called flashing seconds

>>61509221
>>61507342

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>>61508823

>>61507658
>>61508453
>let's say 20% profit margin

https://www.stock-analysis-on.net/NASDAQ/Company/Intel-Corp/Ratios/Profitability

Ah yes, any day now Intel will exit the semiconductor business with its measly 17.37% net profit margin and instead enter the watch industry where a 20% net profit margin awaits to be made.

https://markets.ft.com/data/equities/tearsheet/financials?s=UHR:VTX

In the real world, The Swatch Group, with all of its market power and economies of scale only manages a ~7.50% net profit margin. A realistic expectation for a firm the size of Nomos would be something in the 5% range.

Furthermore, just to emphasise how poorly you understand the scale of the R&D expenditures and capital investments made by Nomos: If Nomos annual revenue is on the order of 50 million Euros then ~10 million Euro would represent a capital investment of ~20% of its annual revenue.

The Swatch Group's annual revenue is around 8 billion Swiss Franc. A capital investment of 1,600,000,000 Franc would be equivalent in scale to what Nomos has done to become a manufacture. Are you maybe starting to get a better idea now of how large an investment this was?

>>61508453
>following the in-house fad gives you a lot of free marketing.
I don't know about you, but personally I'd rather have a watch company spend the money on making a better watch and get the advertising for free than spend it on advertising to hawk their Chinese cased ETA shitter to me more effectively.

>can outsource other parts to China and still meet the 51% made in Glashütte requirement.
They do not do this. They even make their own screws in Glashutte.

>thinking a for-profit company did not choose the option that will make them the most money is absurd. they just didn't go for the fast money, but long-term.
I'd rather watch companies make their money by making better movements, cases, dials, hands and straps rather than by spending more on marketing Chinese cased ETA shitters, thank you.

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>>61508823

>>61508273
That's not the real nineball

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>>61508823

>>61509572
is that like the parnis? Mioyta, saphire glass, ceramic bezel insert? If so How is the finish, bracelet? How much was it?

>>61509366
Get we get a source on where their cases and parts come from? If you are telling the truth on the case manufacturing you've got me sold on nomos being worth the price.

>>61509478
Very cool

>>61509572
>>61509609
nvm found it all http://shop2.tisellkr.cafe24.com/product/sold-out/33/?cate_no=1&display_group=2


I think i may have to get one! how is it? Can't wait till they are back in stock.

>>61509478
That is awesome. Beautiful domed crystal as well.

>>61509631
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/nomos-cases-made-germany-893838.html#/topics/893838?page=5
Looks like the cases are Swiss, at least back in 2013, and I'm pretty sure they're still not in-house.

>>61509954
>>61509954

>>61509663
I like it a lot. It has a great stock bracelet, great finishing, great lume. The bezel functions better than my turtle reissue.
The two imperfections are there is a tiny spacing issue in the word 'resistant,' and in my batch the bezel lume is a different color than the dial lume.

>>61509366
>Ah yes, any day now Intel will exit the semiconductor business with its measly 17.37% net profit margin and instead enter the watch industry where a 20% net profit margin awaits to be made.
irrelevant, totally different branch.

>In the real world, The Swatch Group, with all of its market power and economies of scale only manages a ~7.50% net profit margin. A realistic expectation for a firm the size of Nomos would be something in the 5% range.
DW has a profit margin >50%
http://nordic.businessinsider.com/this-31-year-old-fashion-outsider-has-built-a-watch-empire-in-less-than-5-years-2016-5
Nomos is more DW than Swatch.

It's totally unrealistic to think that Nomos sold the Tangente at a loss in the 90s and had to increase the price 3x while keeping its profit margins the same. thus >50% profit margin for Tangente sounds very realistic.

>just to emphasise how poorly you understand the scale of the R&D expenditures and capital investments made by Nomos
Nomos still is growing in the two digits, so comparing it to some established business is asinine.
don't think you get entrepreneurship, betting the company is nothing unusual and this isn't even it.

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>>61510099
>Nomos is more DW than Swatch.
I should have realised sooner that you were knowingly and deliberately shitposting.

That's enough of (You).

>>61509478
I thought that was a Vostok from the thumbnail.

>>61510255
if you want to stay with Swatch, look at more than one very bad year.
7.5% is not the norm, for example it was 27.4% in 2013.
also Swatch has ETA as worth CHF 6.2 million on the books, so Nomos needing € 11 million sounds questionable.

Newbie here.

What are your opinions on sarx045 and sarx035?

>>61512060
>>61509968

>>61512060
I think they are both really cool. I have a SARX013 that I like a lot but the 045 fixes all the things I disliked about it and has that outrageous dial. The only problem is that terrible onyx crown, it just doesn't work with the design. As for the 035, classic grammar of design case with a pretty decent bracelet sell it pretty hard and the finish is very very good for the price range. The diashield will absolutely scratch so don't get too hyped about that.