/cyb/ + /sec/: Cyberpunk and Cybersecurity General:

Is cryptocurrency /cyb/

>>61489069
I'd say so.
But it certainly depends on the currency and whether it values privacy and security or not.
Although, for real world transactions to prevent local tracking, I would advise the use of physical cash.

>>61489069
Got my 2nd hand super computer mining monero, 20 480 cores.

>>61489310
Are you the Bunker dude?

5th for Bunkerbro is /cyb/

>>61489310
>480 core
armshit?
gpushit?

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>>61489326
Yes.

>>61489370
No, 640 blade servers with opterons, 1280 x 16 core (32 threads) opterons.

>>61489430
from where do you steal electricity?

>>61489430
How much do you mine a day?

>>61489430
Is it not mounted yet?

>>61489819
I think that's an old picture, anon.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g9yUiAHiFo

tldw: she supposedly reconstructed a crude (but still) image of the desktop by tuning in to the frequency of the RAM of the monitored device (a laptop).

If this is true, does this not mean this method bypasses any relevant digital security because it directly taps into physical processes? "disguising" how bits are switched is impossible isn't it?

why is this not big news? or did I miss something.

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>>61489474
Pic. 1.6mw capacity.

>>61489547
26 monero/day ~$1040

>>61489819
It's racked.

>>61490399
Yeah that's why I asked, because I saw the picture was old.

>>61489430
How much did it cost? I've heard of you before, but it's my first time seeing you post so I'm not fully aware of the story behind your machines.

>>61490607
what am I looking at here?

how do securityfags browse the web?

allegedly there are firefox 0days out there ffs

>>61491068
there are 0days for everything, son

thats why theyre called 0days, after all

>>61491106
yeah but firefox should have been designed with security in mind, to make that impossible because everybody browses the web and it's the biggest target

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>want to learn about information security
>can't make myself focus on a book for more than 10 minutes

how the FUCK can i fix my attention span
i cant learn shit and i'm fucking FREAKING out

>>61491178
Are you distracted by imageboards?

>>61491178
ADD meds such as ridilin, Focalin, or Adderall

>>61491183
Yes. I was also distracted by video games, and I uninstalled everything already, but my attention span is fucked now

>>61491190
I'll keep this as a last resort, but I want to avoid drugging myself to get anything done. I want to fix my attention span so I can study for longer amounts of time

>>61491218
Either print the study material and go to a public library or get a craptop with no networking and go to the library. Make sure the library has no people chatting and that there are people around.

>>61489430
HPE stopped making those enclosures after they bought the SimpliVity bullshit earlier this year, so you might sell them for some good money after you are done wasting electricity on mining.

>>61491178
1. Use the pomodoro method. 25 min focus, 5 min break. Go 2 rounds then do 10-15 minutes break. In the beginning, you can even start lower if you really have trouble. Try 10 min focus, 5 min break and go from there.

2. Clean your space, place the book in front of you, PLANT YOUR FEET FIRMLY ON THE GROUND, and don't move them. I know it sounds silly, but it freaking works.

3. Change the place you use for leaning. I can be very productive in the café I always go to. Usually I just bring the stuff I want to read, write, work on, get a coffee and then start On the other hand, I can't concentrate in a libray for some reason. I don't even mind if people are chatting around me, I just drown it out, or listen to music.

4. Make sure you are not hungry or thirsty. And bring some snacks (walnuts are great! they even look like little brains)

>>61491218
>>61491178
need some discipline, don't think asking here will fix your problem. it's a thing you have to work on yourself, since not everyone is the same.

>>61489430
>>61490607
Good grief that's 673 KH/s
Are you having to pay for the electricity??

>>61491281
>>61491300
I'll try these out, thank you very much for the tips

>>61491331
I realize this, I need more discipline in general and I'm trying to improve on this. I would like some tips on how to improve discipline in general

>>61491399
again, this general wouldn't be my first choice for asking for tips in. but hey whatever.

>>61491399
>>61491331

Discipline does come (to a certain extend) with practice. Which is why I suggest starting easy (like the pomodoro method "light").
You could even set yourself small goals. Instead of saying "I will now read 3 chapters", why not just 1 page and then go from there. Read one page and see if you want to read more. Do that until you come to a point where you can't focus anymore. Take a short break (don't overdo it! Just walk around, do some pushups, grab some snacks, make some coffee/tea, open a window.. stuff like that). And then start easy again.

I used to set myself way too high goals when I simply was not used to working for prolonged periods of time, but the more I did it successfully - on my own terms and goals - the better I got at it.

>>61491300
Is it possible to learn about anything related to programming without actually applying the examples though?
Reading a programming book is good, doing exercises seems more useful.

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>>61491469
Well yea, just reading a book will not help you much with programming unless you are already familiar with it.
You can however, write out the code by hand and then type it in later. Or just use a laptop of course.

Although, I cannot for the life of me, read longer text on a laptop.. I need it either in paper form or on my ebook reader.

Would be to naive to ask to all anons what are your plans for the weekend? Like stydying some specific topic or building something.

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>>61491841
Plans for the weekend:
>make sure this little illness I got gets btfo
>clean my desk clutter
>continue with CompTia + course from prof. messer
>have some coffee
>have some more coffee
>prepare some stuff for work next week
>Continue reading a book about Cryptography
>possible get rid of some stuff to make space for a workbench
>continue re-reading Neuromancer
>maybe start watching season 2 of Mr. Robot
>and maybe some socializing tomorrow while having said coffee

>>61491916
>maybe start watching season 2 of Mr. Robot
You remind me that nobody arounds me watches Mr.Robot so I'm safe from Season 3 spoilers until it ends and I would be able to devour it all.

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>>61491978
I don't know anyone either. Then again, I just started watching it this week, giving it a chance. And I like it so far, especially for the Fight Club vibe and the actuall hacking stuff (inb4 edgy)

Looking forward to season 2

Just got my copy of Neuromancer!!!

What does this general think of it?

>>61491991
I think you will like it. Maybe it lacks a little more tech stuff but pretty awesome imo. Sharing my plans would be:

>Trying fucking finally LXC
>Installing Owncloud
>Probably will end up here asking for tips to harding it

Maybe I will migrate a forum a friend of mine was handling in another container but it is not sure yet.

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>>61491997
The very first sentence makes clear that this book is Cyberpunk as fuck!

>>61492017
>lxc
>not docker or kvm
why

>>61492178
I've asked a few times in different generals, and seems like that's overkill in complexity and functionality for what I want.

I will be running a cloud and a forum only, one in each container probably. In a little Odroid I have.

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>>61490918
$80k

>>61491036
A 24kv to 400v transformer.

>>61491295
I like them, had some at my workplace. They just released gen10 blades, so should be ok ~2 more years.

>>61491377
Electricity is $0.02 kw/h, cheapest in Europe after Iceland (its free there).

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>>61488992
>Integrated
>Network
>Telemetry
>Exempt from
>Law

I.N.T.E.L.

>>61492245
oh shit you're that bunkerbro
goddamn dude

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>>61492245
Sick bunker!
Got more pics?

>>61492245
Do you have a leddit account or some kind of blog? I'd love to follow your posts

>>61492522
He hagns out from time to time in /diy/

>>61492522
>I'd love to go to leddit

>>61492522
>considering reddit
Go back.

>>61492632
>>61492747
kys. the monero sub is a wealth of information.

maybe this is the thread to ask

Fedora or Debian sid?

>>61492812
>eating salad in a restaurant
>olives are pretty good but the rest of the salad is shit
>order another salad and recommend it to all my friends

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>>61492257

>>61491997
It is nothing short of the defining work of Cyberpunk, setting the standard for others to attempt and fail to surpass.

is the suggested blender add-on outdated?

Why can we not trivially defeat length-extension attacks by specifying that a message is only valid if the padding is the absolute last thing in the message? Assume it's the pattern 10*n where n is the length of the message before the padding.

>>61493321
What blender add-on?

this thread sucks ass

>>61492245
that's pretty cool dude good luck

>>61492851
bump for interest

>>61492851
I think it is more for the friendly linux general than here unless your specify your question making it /sec/ related.

>>61492851
>>61494350
Try them both and keep the one you like the most. Now fuck off with your stupid questions or go to /sqt/

>>61494362
it is /sec/ related

>>61494369
kys moron

>>61494516
As I told, you SPECIFY your question, or you're just saying >>61494369 is right.

>>61494521
>asking which is preferable within thread context
>not specific enough

you know, why don't you just shut the fuck up if you have nothing relevant to say?

>>61494556
>I already specified
>debian or fedora hurr
Yeah, pretty specific derp.

>>61494516
>>61494556
fuck off faggot, the way you ask it without context it sounds like the baiting retards that keep spamming "hurrr durrr aplel/AyyMD/Jewtel BTFO"
fucking nigger

>>61494556
>within thread context
prove it or >>>/v/

>>61494599
top lel
have a nice day faggot :^)

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You guys, have some cyberpunk rooms instead

>>61492921
FUCK OFF

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>>61492379
Same area as pic before, back when I just bought it.

>>61492522
No.

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>>61494657
I can help with that.

>>61494657
>>61494687
not comfy.

post comfycyb

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>>61494703
I though I had more lol

>>61494698
post more pics please

I will ambient it. Hard like this?

https://youtu.be/JnhjWUepaE8

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>>61494767

These "cyberpunk rooms" all look extremely depressing

What's wrong with a little sunlight?

Imagine living in the middle of nowhere, opening your windows and seeing hills and trees for miles and miles, sitting on your creaky chair with an old wooden table. Couldn't get comfier than that.

>>61494717
tf is this this

>>61494735
>>61494709
>>61494772
why is cybshit synonymous with too many monitors

>>61494793
>>61494703
comfy

>>61494783
I like to see you stick with us Bunkerbro. Sorry if I bother you with spam.

>>61494814
Because it is supposed that in that future land will be ravaged and replaced with glass and concrete. At least on earth.

>>61494817
>tf is this this
I felt bad just helping with 1 image.

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>>61494681

>>61494698
You bought a bunker? What was your motivation?

>>61494778
I will keep sharing untill someone tell to stop.

https://youtu.be/ESI_nIBXXUU

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>>61494873
Are you the anon who recommended me some dark dnb/neurofunk in the other thread? If yes, just keep going!

>>61494901
Indeed my m8. More coming up. I don't know why I feel like DnB fits this well.

https://youtu.be/NV65WMG-trU

I always forget how good Noisia is.

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>>61494931
Awesome! Again, thank you, I am having a great time with the music.

I've been trying to get most of their stuff together, really awesome stuff.

I also don't know why it fits so well, but I've been re-reading Neuromancer, and during the fast paced scenes in the book, this music just fits perfectly

>>61494840
>I felt bad just helping with 1 image.
understood

>>61494901
this is shit

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>>61494871
It's a decommissioned air command center from the cold war, excavated inside a granite mountain.

I bought it because;
1) it is a very cool property
2) it was "cheap", $250k for a huge nuclear proof facility, incl. the mountain and some forest property.

Was is very poor condition, so been renovating it by myself for the last 3 years (minus the 24kv high voltage).

>>61494970
I'm very glad your liking it. If you want to change the genre just tell me and I will go into *waves, though they're less intense.

https://youtu.be/NS03LNwivzU

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So I tried to set up my new VPN in Arch.

My IPv6 Address is showing up as the exit node in Hong Kong's (good)
My IPv4 Address is still showing up as my real one (bad)

What does this mean?

>>61495115
Whoops, sorry I meant the other way round.

The IPv4 is showing my real one, IPv6 the VPN one as desired

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>>61495110
So far, I have more than enough to explore - like I said before, a whole new genre of music - but thank you.

There is a local record store that has countless dnb LP's, and that will be my next stop.

>>61495163
Go there my fellow anon. We're going into memes then (although I like it the same)

https://youtu.be/wfxDIyYU9nM

>>61495135
>>61495115
this thread is full of retard larpers, you're not gonna get good guidance here

For the fellow anon who think about getting the cybersec book collection but lack the credits to do so, check out 736973656e6567207972617262696c2072656164206974206261636b7761726473
All can be found there

>>61494817
>why is cybshit synonymous with too many monitors
single monitorfag detected. Buy a second one it'll change your world.

>>61495392
i already have two and yes theres no way i could go back to one regular sized monitor
i just dont see the appeal of 20 displays all different sizes and orientations
maybe i shouldnt have quoted the 2x3 pic, its not that pointless
outside of really specific cases there really isnt much point

Why does /cyb/ use an IRC network that blocks tor?

>>61495564
tor is shit

>>61495564
have you asked yourself why it blocks tor though surely it wasnt always the case

>>61495284
7378767a6968206c77205220677a736420

>>61495676
Because it's the easiest way to deal with the matter?

>>61495076
How do you get electricity and internet. I can't imagine a technician from AT&T coming in.

https://youtu.be/aeF1ZvA2IEQ

>>61495695
My deciphering skills sure suck
Time for more practice

>>61495076
Any extra rooms senpai? I'd live there, I don't take up much space

>>61495076
But do you stroke a cat while you conspire?

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>>61495736
Fiber, laid down some of it myself.

>>61496227
Depends, are you a super hot grill with mad tiling skills?

>>61496339
Pic, plan for the old confernce room on level 3.

How trustworthy is proton vpn?

>>61496453
Sweet, what about the dungeons?

>>61496453
>Depends, are you a super hot grill with mad tiling skills?
No :(( but for an opportunity to live in a cool af tech bunker mining monero, I'd let you turn the lights out and do whatever you want to me

>>61496593
Anon would take that offer if he's being honest with himself.

>>61490415
Sooooo you didn't watch it, and you're passing judgement on the contents of the video?

>>61491841
>get out of bed
>have some coffee
>go to gym
>download a few war games
>try my hardest to finish them
>crack the shits at them and go buy dual 24" monitors

>>61491991
>And I like it so far, especially for the Fight Club vibe and the actuall hacking stuff
Ha, we should be friends. This is exactly why I love it.

>>61492859
Wrong analogy fucko

>restaurant is pretty shit
>has pretty good salad
>recommend to all my friends

>>61493366
You mean the same reason trivial buffer overflows continue to exist? Because programmers are trash?

>>61496810
No, the restaurant was supposed to be the whole internet, but you can also think that way.

>>61496974
So in your analogy there's no good food at the restaurant at all and there's only one restaurant for everyone to eat at.

>>61497250
>order another salad and recommend it to all my friends
I meant recommend the salad, and I said nothing about the other food or that there is only one restaurant.

>>61492245
where are you located? Serbia?

>>61497321
Well if that restaurant is the internet, it has to be the sole one since there's only one internet

>>61497372
But there can be other internets by definition.

Has anyone solved the skullcode thing yet?
Did everyone just give up?

>>61496453
bunkerbro i want to lay my own fibre
but it'd be pointless since i dont own enough of the land and the landowners dont want it

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what is the safest way to have voice messaging in a desktop?

would the safest use TOR?

I have been trying to learn to code forever now and I am so bad at it, is there no hope for me?

example of how shit I am (can't figure out why this does not work):

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
  
  FILE *file = fopen("doc.txt", "w");
  
  char* input;
  input = malloc(100 * sizeof(char));
  scanf("%c ", input);  
  
  if(file == NULL)
  {
          printf("ERROR: Could not write file...\n");
          return 1;
  }
  
  fprintf(file,"%s\n", input);
  
  fclose(input);
  free(input);  
  
  system("PAUSE");    
  return 0;
}

>>61497603

It fails because this line

input = malloc(100 * sizeof(char));
// should be
input = (char *)malloc(100 * sizeof(char));

You have to cast the first address that malloc returns to the same type of pointer that will be storing it.

>>61497597

You can't anymore, modern systems all come with tons of spyware and even hardware level bypasses to steal your data. IF you take proper precaution and use something like torchat or some other chat service that uses tor or l2p or w/e, you may get 'safe' enough to have an encrypted conversation.

>>61497603
you're closing the malloc instead of the file. it doesn't really make sense. try

fclose(file);

btw you're using "%c" which only reads one character, you might wanna change that to scanf("%s", input); to get a string.

>>61497741
also, isn't your compiler giving you any warnings? if it is, don't ignore them and if it isn't might wanna try a different one just sayin

>>61491068
>>61491122
It's impossible to create software without any bugs at all, retard. It's called human error. Most software is just good enough, or it gets patched. Patching will often widen the attack surface and create more bugs.

>>61497401
But you didn't say """"AN INTERNET"""" you said the restaurant is """""the""""" internet

>>61491997
Neuromancer, the story of some temp workers merging some files.

>>61497737
>casting malloc
what the fuck is wrong with you ?

>>61488992
I own there are a lot of books in the OP, but do you guys have any personal recommendations for networking books?

>>61498317
>owe
*know

Does anyone have any links to any beginner boot2roots?

learning assembly with "assembly language step by step" and it's the most accessible book i've read so far. halfway through chapter 3 right now

>>61498317

Go get one of the CCNA books (Todd Lammle tends to be decent) and a copy of Packet Tracer, then have fun.

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>tfw you'll never have a micro apartment

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>>61499761
>tfw you'll never have an estate on a sea-side cliff guarded by your PMC

>>61497603
If you want to program for lulz then learn Lisp/Scheme or even Golang. Go is so easy after a few pages of gopl.io book you can program anything you want for personal/toy use.

To understand programming go on edx.org and take the course "How to Code" part 1 and 2. Afterwards get Practical Common Lisp and make custom web servers, virtual machines, some shit that scrapes whatever sites you want, a bot, whatever.

>>61499841
>Go
Stop it.

>>61499841
C is super in demand. it's basically the lingua franca of programming languages. if he's programming for personal use he may as well use python

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Briar ISN'T DEAD?
https://briarproject.org/news/2017-beta-released-security-audit.html
So like two years ago I saw this website and it sounded too good to be true. But it was dead. Nothing new for updates for a year. Now it seems it's not only out but also has a passing security beta? Well shit.

>>61497597
On desktop, Tox.
On Android, maybe Tox and definitely Signal.

>>61499761
You could always move to HK and live in a wire cage http://www.businessinsider.com/craziest-microapartments-around-world-2016-9


Where I live a 175 sq ft microsuite is $250k to buy, if you buy it prebuilt. After building it's $300k+.

>>61495076
Seconding the request to rent a room in the bunker.

>>61495730
Because people like the minionposter ruin it for everyone. To be honest, posting on 4chan means your need for TOR for opsec is likely overestimated (or you are making opsec fails, take your pick.)

On a related note, CAPTCHA is becoming insufferable and just had me ID an Apache helicopter in the Middle East against a mountainous background. Botnet CNC when?

>>61491841
>Pick a good open source target for fuzzing
>Instrument with American Fuzzy Lop and find some good seeds
>Curse loudly when there is an inevitable fuck up
>Fix whatever was fucked up and continue
>Hopefully, hit an exploitable vuln and develop an exploit POC
>Send to vendor and start the vulnerability disclosure dance...

>>61499695
I know right? It's an awesome book for beginners, it REALLY lays down the foundations you're going to need to actually understand x86 assembly. The author has a ton of examples that clearly demonstrate technical concepts. A lot of the chapters are written in an interesting way, I highly recommend it to anyone who is dipping their toes in assembly.

>>61496453
Bunkerbro!
Please post your Vimeo!
You're amazing!

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>>61500149
>be american
>get named "burger"

>>61500545
I learned from CS:App, there's lecture vids for it here if interested: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~213/schedule.html

It also covers return oriented programming/code reuse attacks, which still works. That's when you string a bunch of gadgets together and inject them into the stack to return wherever you want, eventually constructing your own program. It still works, except there was a paper released this month on Gadget Weighted Tagging to try and identify them but it's a framework, and frameworks are terrible when mass deployed so already ways were found to fool it.

Anyway try that course if you like X86 assembly

>>61500545
i got access to an online library from my acm membership but had to follow the white rabbit to actually get access to them, but yeah i was looking at assembly books and there were a zillion with 0 ratings or 2 stars and then this one popped up with 5 stars and 13 ratings so i checked it out. pretty good stuff

>>61500566
>sold their possessions
>still have more garbage than I've had in my entire life
I fucking hate Americans.

>>61500664
Oh man, I recently built my first ROP chain that popped a calc and it was incredible. It was so fun using Immunity Debugger/mona.py on a Windows 7 VM to find gadgets, string em together and get my shellcode running. I've found that this kind of work is really exciting and I'm anxious to get my hands on more resources that I can use to improve my exploit dev process.

Thanks a lot for linking the resource, I'll check it out. Hopefully I can find some quicker ways to get a working ROP chain and maybe also build some exploits that are more portable.

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>>61494350
Since this is /cyb/, I'd say GuixSD as it's the future of operating systems.

Here's an org-mode presentation explaining it
http://dustycloud.org/misc/talks/guix/chicagolug_2015/guix_talk.html

The basic gestalt
>configure everything declaratively with one file
>have complete dependency graph
>run VMs/containers .. without a file system, it's just a dependency graph so moving these things around is just transferring some text files
>Hurd is being ported to it, you can run Hurd like a distributed botnet (Hurd already works w/Debian) where one node goes down but doesn't affect the rest, so your OS can never crash or need to reboot
>Decentralized packages, you never need to use GnuPG again because reproducible builds is how you check with GuixSD, not flawed GnuPG. Flawed as in libgcrypt and MITM https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/627.pdf

>>61500851
I feel like GuixSD Gnu-Linux would be so abstract most people wouldn't see the need for it. Even I have a hard time really 'getting' it.

>>61500701
quick, sell the family photos and stuffed animals!!

>>61500751
I had fun doing the whole bug bounty thing for a while, even still have an active HackerOne account and a Kasperky bounty through it, but lost interest because it's just too easy to pop some antivirus program and take over somebody's machine. I became more interested in learning verified algorithms, that can't be popped so easily because I think that's what everybody is moving too lately. The years of test/debug methology has crashed and burned and software proofs will become more in demand. This means walled gardens with no way out, so I'd rather get my foot in there first and see what kind of defensive software I can write before they shut us all out and just issue dumb terminals and internet licenses.

>>61501189
That's interesting, I've never heard of verified algorithms before. I'll have to look into that more... I've learned that in security, the next big shift could happen any day so I'm trying to stay on top of emerging trends as much as possible.

Also, you say you managed to get a Kaspersky bounty, any tips for fuzzing/looking for vulns in AV software? I've just finished reading the Antivirus Hackers Handbook and I'm looking for more resources that delve into that particular area of vulnerability research. It seems as though AV is an overlooked area of security when compared to other software products like browsers or document viewers.

>>61500974
I thought it was Guile?

Guile looks interesting. I hope to see games written in Guile.

>>61501390
https://deepspec.org/page/SF/ this looks harder than it is, but if you know some functional language it's not.

I used a SAT solver to find the Kaspersky bug http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mfredrik/15414/index.html it was easy to find but hard to write a PoC for, as they wanted a fully working proof of concept which to me is bullshit (another reason why I don't do bug hunting anymore, too much work to write the PoC). So after 3 weeks I had a working PoC (and discovered another bug in the process) and they offered me a job, which I didn't take. The bounty was not that much either, I felt I could have sold that exploit on some Tor broker site or even to whitehat middlemen for 3x more.

AV is def overlooked, remember it's a daemon with insane levels of priv access and piles of legacy code. A lot of exploits for them were released in that last Wikileaks CIA/Shadowbrokers dump.

>>61501461
Guile is an R5RS implementation of Scheme, with many extensions, some of which conform to SRFIs (scheme req for implementation) or to the relevant parts of R6RS.

>https://pastebin.com/raw/T8TeepZP
>the changes listed above are unambiguous and unopinionated
what does this mean in this context? do these changes effect regular web browsing?

>>61488992
Cyberpunk has nothing to do with cybersecurity.

>>61501509
>AV is def overlooked, remember it's a daemon with insane levels of priv access and piles of legacy code. A lot of exploits for them were released in that last Wikileaks CIA/Shadowbrokers dump.
Seriously, it's astounding. Plus, all these AV products need to properly parse the most obscure and complex file formats that even the file format authors have a hell of a time understanding, so what are the odds some AV researcher can write bug free code for them? I'm currently making a decision on where to focus the majority of my development time, seems like AV is the right call.

I got seriously started doing bug bounty hunting in software products this year and I can totally relate with your complaint about PoC development time, it can be a major time sink... Hopefully, with enough practice I can cut down on dev time or automate things better.

>>61501509
And cheers for linking those resources on verified algorithms, I bet a lot of anons will find them useful. Looks like my weekend reading is accounted for.

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>>61501602
I think the sort of distrust cyberpunk breeds in taking technology at face value is the perfect breeding ground for cybersecurity. Sure there's a long way to go between an interest and someone working in the field wanting to discuss processes and concepts in depth, but I think we manage to strike a good balance between people here for the look/vibe, people just getting started and learning, people on the path and practising pros like maderas. It's pretty comfy currently and the two streams of /cyb/ and /sec/ have both proven to be unable to sustain individual generals on their own here.

>>61501702
I got the time down, once I started getting the hang of developing working proof of concepts but still it felt like I was just fire fighting a vast inferno with an eye dropper so decided just write better verified software that competes with this bug filled junkware.

>>61501762
The book w/that course,
The Calculus of Computation is really good for teaching you to generate invariants, and armed with that you can now begin to find bugs, and use tools like z3 SMT solver (SMT solver is a SAT solver + decision procedure.) https://github.com/Z3Prover/z3/wiki which is explained here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4606231 but the basics is it's an automated reasoning program to tell you if a program conforms to it's spec or not. If it's not conforming you can exploit it.

Here's a more general/not so academic introduction to them https://yurichev.com/writings/SAT_SMT_draft-EN.pdf

Once you know about these things, you can run them on your own programs, and start to verify their correctness. You can also use induction to prove types are safe, tons of things that everybody should be doing but never does. Programs can be sliced up into modules to make this easier. Anyway, enjoy

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Britpocalypse

>>61501981
Oh yeah, I've actually heard of SMT solvers before as a bug finding strategy. I didn't delve too much deeper into it at the time, but Microsoft had that SAGE software which I think implemented SMT solving.

Yeah these things look awesome, can't wait to get into them. Thanks again for all the great new research sources!

>>61491997
In all seriousness? The book that set the foundation for virtually all cyberpunk works (along with Blade Runner, which provided the visual elements) but also the weakest book in the Sprawl trilogy. Influential and ground-breaking but still not as good as MLO or CZ.

MLO > CZ > Neuromancer imo

>>61502036
that photo was taken from approximately 53°29'25.4"N 2°17'08.4"W, if anyone is interested

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>>61494706
>post comfycyb
Pic. related. Is also comfypunk.

We're at page 6? No thanks.

>>61504841
time to reach page 10 increases exponentially from pages 1-9 anon
6 is nothing to worry about

>>61498119
Yes because "the internet" is the internet we are currently shitposting in.

>>61499954
Tox is a meme
the development is slow as fuck and i segfaulted qtox within 10 minutes of using it by changing themes

>>61504060
and you got that how?

>inb4 exif data
4chan strips that anon

>>61505131
Not him but the pic clearly says the Shop Mall there. . .

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>>61505154
checks out

>>61492245
Wow, do you have any tips on making a bunker and start mining?

>>61505304
>get rich
>buy bunker
>buy supercomputer
>start mining

There you have it, best tip.

>>61505319
What type of supercomputer? How do I do step 1?

>>61505327
An old one that's semi-cheap on the internet. For step 1 you need an great idea, and a greater brain to develop it, at least most of the time.

>>61490415
no I did watch all of it, I resumeed it for the ones who are too lazy to watch it all, she is a pain to listen to but smart af

>>61505359
was refered to >>61496707

>>61491068
noscript

>>61491178
learn by doing. motivation is a good driver.

>>61492859
nice logic, retard

>>61493366
and how do you make sure the padding is "the absolute last thing in the message"?

>>61493892
this. it's sad, but /sec/ usually sucks... because of /cyb/

>>61505381
>nice logic, retard
How is it flawed, retard?

i had a look at the resources list as i want to learn about cybsec and what not however im completely new and feel overwhelmed.

I dont know exactly where to start so i chose the re for beginners github. is this a good choice?

>>61505381
>this. it's sad, but /sec/ usually sucks... because of /cyb/
I still can't see the point. I mean, sure there's people from both siudes that are not interested in the other part of the thread (/sec/ not interested in /cyb/ and vice versa) but I don't know why that's a reason for "this thread sucks".

>>61500342
use legacy CAPTCHA in the setting on the bottom

thank me later

>>61505131
anon I have a map
a few maps in fact, but only one of manchester


>>61492245
bunkerbro why dont you invest your mining money into gpus to make more money

>>61497580
not-bunkerbro here, but if you have the cash to burn to lay your own fibre you can look into wireless links.

Some time ago I saw some that look like security cameras, you get 2 of them to point at eachother and it can relay traffic across a street.

More sophisticated systems (like mobile providers) use small parabolic (steering wheel size) antennas called microwave links which run up to a few kms or something.

>>61505404
you can still get good stuff from a shitty context, and that's not a problem. things aren't black vs white
reddit has some good subs, and even if the users that post are mostly retards, you can find some awesome stuff. plus, some people only visits some subreddits, exclusively

>>61505419
>4chan format sucks
>/cyb/ is the most vocal
>not a lot of technical content/talk
I'd be happy if /sec/ was a separate general, but... the times it has been a separate thread, it died within hours

>>61494837
So, the toilet is that door mat looking thing? Now that is what I call compact living. Shame about the smell though.

>>61505760
Join the #/g/sec IRC then

>>61505760
>you can still get good stuff from a shitty context
So what? If I consider the context shitty, don't expect me there, I'd rather get information from other places.

>4chan format sucks
>/cyb/ is the most vocal
Are you sure that /cyb/ is the most vocal? And if you consider 4chan format to suck maybe you should go back instead of posting here.

>>61505760
>4chan format sucks
Well, if that's your starting point I guess is not much I can argue, although I think /sec/ is talking a lot (and I like it) so I don't know why you say /cyb/ is most vocal.

>>61494840
>n that future land will be ravaged and replaced with glass and concrete
A Day Made in Glass, you mean? I sure can see some serious ravaging here

https://youtu.be/6Cf7IL_eZ38

>>61496768
Anon I...

Seriously though, I can't think of any other movie/show that pulled the Fight Club vibe off without being pretentious. Mr. Robot but their own unique spin on it, and it works really well in my opinion. It reminds my of Fight Club, but does not feel forced. Not to mention the fourth wall breaks they have, really great.
And the hacking stuff, well I obviously would like to see more of it, but at least they manage to get very close to reality.

>>61505735
yeah ubiquiti make some pretty good ones, I know of people that use them.

>>61505859
Ugh, idk why that posibility makes me cringe.

Yeah, I meant glass and concrete because is where I think tendeces are going.

>>61505877
I agree with everything you said.

What I also can't find, is ANY other movie or show with realistic hacking sequences.

NOTHING. How is this show the goddamn first ever to have realistic cyber sections?

>>61505979
/x/ theory: The powers that be don't want us to become Hackers, so they make a show where we can live out that fantasie.

But I guess the producers and writer actually bothered to get some "experts" on the team, instead of some shitty CSI hacking "experts".

I mean, either go the Matrix route where you quickly take hacking out of the contemporary context, or do it right from the beginning. Older movies like Hackers while fun to watch, just did not bother so much it seems. Though now that I think about it, the movie 23 (german movie from 1998) was also real. But it's not the most known movie, though a real good one in my opinion.

>>61506041
The actor actually type shit on the keyboard and use the real programs like John or Aircrack. Also, because they have to type it themselves they don't spam the keyboard like complete retards but actually take the time to type it correctly on the first try. That's way they are typing kind of slowly but it still is well edited.
What's bothering be about this show is the way they're are turning the main character into a completely crazy motherfucker. I didn't like the second season because of this

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>>61496497
I think the dungeons will be reserved for the catgirls used for stroking as >>61496339 pointed out.

>>61506041
>But it's not the most known movie, though a real good one in my opinion.

Because it's all in german! Non Holywood stuff doesn't have as much reach.
Another more serious film is Wargames.

>>61505885
i know about the stuff ubiquiti make
thing about radio is i'd still need to build on land that isnt mine, and neighbours arent exactly receptive to that kind of thing

>>61506097
Yeah I agree, you can see that they researched their stuff somewhat at least.

I haven't watched the second season yet, but plan on starting later today. I kinda am not surprised though, that they go more into the crazy aspects of the show, I think it's what most people want to see. Oh well, maybe season 3 will have more again, but no spoilers for season 2 please.

>>61506125
It does have a english version though, or am I wrong?

But yeah, it's completely non hollywood esque, so the reach is non-existent.
Even in Germany it's rather unknown, safe for people interested in Hacking and the CCC

>>61495076
>ywn have a lair

>>61505822
>>61505845
the format sucks when you have to separate groups in a single thread, and you are only interested in one of them, being the other group the most vocal one...

>>61505810
nah, freenode has a bunch of sec related channels that prolly are way, way better than anything /g/ has to offer...

>>61506155
There is no english dub for the film. No version that floats online includes subtitles, so they have to be downloaded separately. It's well worth it nontheless.

>>61506237
You're so fucking stupid. 4chan was never made for generals, and if you read the threads, you'll notice that /cyb/ has less presence in the thread, or rather, they talk about /sec/ topics too.

>...
>...
Yeah just go back.

what are some cyb sec youtube videos?

>>61506279
>muh generals r cancer
>>>/a/

>>61506312
generals are cancer though
>>>/reddit/

>>61506312
They are, you fucking spastic moron.

Seriously just leave this fucking place and never come back, you are a hindrance on this general.

>>61506259
Damn, I did not know that. The movie deserves more attention imho.

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>>61506354
>visits a general
>complains about generals

>>61506465
Yes because it's the only place we can discuss /sec/ stuff because I'm not going to browse the catalog for hours until I find a decent thread to discuss on, because /g/ is fucking complete shit and each second I browse the catalog a neuron dies.

>>61506505
neurons die all the time you retard

>>61506756
s/a neuron/an extra neuron/

Does that work for you?

Some /sec/ anon would mind to explain to me how bridges on linux works? I mean, I've been trying to figure out how to ccreate a bridge from something virtual to my actual interface but although I got acess to internet I'm the same in the understanding matter.

>>61506237
Why are you coming to 4chan if you dislike what it has to offer you absolute faggot
Don't even answer just get out

>>61506983
still seems kinda insignificant anon

>>61488992
Christ, we're almost onto another thread.

>>61496768
>>61491991
Anon, to not spam the thread with tv shows and movie derping

gorozz632(at)cock(dot)li

no homo of course (inb4 cock)

>>61506360
Oh it's not just the movie, the whole actual cyberespionage event and how that was found out through an early example of /cybersec/ is still as relevant.
The events at the other side of the pond are best told by Clifford Stoll himself, the man who discovered the system breaches. Not kidding he himself was eccentric enough to star in a TV movie about the hack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcKxaq1FTac

>>61508179
Oh, nice! Thanks for sharing.

I think I read High-Tech Heretic by Stoll before, but that was years ago. Just give his book another read.

But yeah, overall the movie feels almost like a documentary and has a lot of interesting stuff to look up. Guess I will have to re-watch it soon

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How many ITT are involved in various botnets already? I mean stuff like Google, Facebook, apple ecosystem, etc.

I have several gmails, a Facebook, a bank account linked to different things.

Long story short, how does one "reset"? How does a security and privacy minded mindset of now undo the things I did in the past? As it stands my real name is out there for everything and it's creepy to think of it like that. All I have for me now is a laptop with encrypted everything and an emergency USB flash drive with liveboot linux, the tar package of veracrypt, and several encrypted containers with all my personal info inside as a sort of "bug out, gotta leave everything NOW" type deal.

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who studying for Sec+ here? I know it's very easy being multiple choice and all but it is recognized by the government and corporations.

what e-mail should i use to be secure?

>>61508698
Certainly not your own.
bugmenot.com

>>61499916
Trouble is, this is an *Android* app. How can you guard yourself from hidden services in the android stack from intercepting the contents?

In today's political climate I would assume that any recent version of Android is shot full of holes from very capable people using access granted by secret court orders.

Only 5 years ago that would be conspiracy talk. Today it is a legitimate question.

>>61500701
When most of your possessions are in fact your child's stuffed toys...

>>61509272
you know that trump didn't pass the patriot act, right?

>>61508807
>bugmenot.com
what is a purpose of this site

>>61508268

You stop, right now. It's pointless to clean up your own blood trail if you're still bleeding all over the place. Facebook and Google won't keep getting your data if you stop giving it to them. Inventory all of the services that have your personal data, and one by one migrate to a replacement (if it's a type of service you can't live without), delete your data from the service, and then delete the account you have if possible. If not, set an absurd password and lose it.

Sure they will have record of what you deleted, but you won't always be who you are right now. You won't always live at 420 Blaze street, you won't always have the phone number 4208675309, you won't always be Jack Johnson, you won't always like MLP, etc etc. Data collected on you loses value over time, because it stops being relevant.

privacytools dot io

>>61508281

I have Sec+. It's pretty underwhelming if you don't work for the US FedGov. My A+ is more valuable in terms of getting a private sector job.

>>61505381
>this. it's sad, but /sec/ usually sucks... because of /cyb/
You know we had a strawpoll on this, right?

>>61509793

link?

>>61510014
Pointless since it got trashed.

>>61491300
from experience, this is sound advice

is anybody here working/reversing malware or RE in general?

>>61510014
It decided that most people where here for /cyb/ and didn't mind sharing space with /sec/. Which is exactly the problem, we have a bunch of larpers posting pepes and being general shitposters doing nothing but decrease the quality of the thread. I have not seen a single /cyb/ post that has had any substance and improved the general discussion, all we've done is import a bunch of shitposters to bump the thread for us. This is still the best general on the board, but it used to be better.

>>61510690
I do RE for vulnerability research. A good place to do a tut for malware/RE is this one: https://securedorg.github.io/RE101/

Hope that helps you learn more.

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Anyone /webappsec/ here?

Just got my first vulnerability report thanks, company doesn't pay bounties but still feels good.

Currently reading pic related and Web App Hackers Handbook.

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>>61511388
Congrats on the triaged vulnerability report. I recently finished reading Web Application Security, A Beginner's Guide by Sullivan & Liu. It was very good at explaining core concepts in Web App security and pretty approachable. I would highly recommend it to anyone thinking of investing time in this field.

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>>61500664
thanks for this

>>61511467
Have never heard of it, thanks for the tip.

did we see the ready player one trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE71JOvLPvE

>>61511641
Looks watchable, though I have the feeling that most of it will play in the virutal reality and will be the usually hollywood kinda story, which would just bore me.
The visuals looks great though

>>61510014
http://www.strawpoll.me/13161298/r
It is not as if it took more than 10 seconds to find that.

However:
>>61510083
... is correct.

Before it was thrashed it was fairly even, though it seems someone had a single tracked /sec/ mind and skewed it.

Kind of amusing really since /sec/ didn't last long until it was joined by /cyb/.

>>61511010
Well, There are 2 or 3 of us here that post /cyb/ news whenever they pop up. Some times the discussions that follows are interesting.

>>61509347
I know.

Thing is, NSA operated way outside their mandate and has been going everywhere like kudzu. Patriot Act was not really relevant.

And that is why Gen. Hayden had to go: Snowden pulled open the lid. There is a division of powers in the Intelligence world to make sure no one agency gets too much power. When NSA went past these limits it was found to be a danger, the leadership out of control and a new leader was required.

So old Android OS might be safer than recent ones. And it will probably take a decade to get full insight in what has been done, and another 50 years, perhaps 100, before all this mess is declassified.

Only now are things about Mata Hari being declassified and that was a walk in the park compared to this.

>>61511771
>Well, There are 2 or 3 of us here that post /cyb/ news whenever they pop up. Some times the discussions that follows are interesting.
The /cyb/ news seems to be almost exclusively politics (which just ruins threads, lets be honest) or just /sec/ news in disguise.

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>>61496497
No dungeons, but does sharks with lasers on them count?

>>61497580
Since I live in a socialist country, there is a law where non-intrusive infrastructure gets right-of-way by law, so land owners can't really do much about it. They do get a small reimbursement amount per meter, but it's pretty much nothing. I put down 63km, but I also connected all the farms that were nearby to it, for free, with a free 1gbit connection, no limits. The average use per household is ~5mbit. It scales to 10gbit, but I only bought them small er-x-sfp ubiquity routers, if they want more speed they'll have to shell out for the router themselves.

>>61500564
https://vimeo.com/103144960

>>61505684
Because if the crypto tanks thanks to the people in power, at least I'll have a great cluster to make use of. Can't do much with gpu gaming cards and professional cards aren't very cost effective for mining.

>>61512203
about the fibre, wheres the other end connected to?

>>61511853
The NSA did operated outside their legal boundaries, but the old androids OS it's easy as pie to crack.

>>61511915
You need to look closer, I for one have posted about brain interfaces.

>>61512607
Splits into to two internet exchanges, so got ~30 or so isps to trade bandwidth with via open peering.

>>61509585
To circumvent registration and to help others at that.

>>61511388
Haven't gotten around to it, but the author of "The Tangled Web" also wrote "Silence on the Wire" which is supposed to be pretty good.

>>61512203
I cannot express in words my envy. Having a bunker is life goal tier. Please treat her well, Anon.

>>61512834
It is, Michal Zalewski is a goddamned genius.

>>61506097
I like to think of the first season as a self contained complete story. I don't really associate the second season with it as much. I'll still watch it, but I've only seen it once, compared to the three full times I've gone through the first season

>>61488992
OP, we are about to pass 300 again. The /cyb/ FAQ is updated, and RC2 is about to hit the Pastebin. I will post it in the new thread.

Next up is /cyb/ games. I see a list here
https://www.pcgamesn.com/best-cyberpunk-games-on-pc
The list seems a bit wide in scope, anyone got a recommendation? I haven't played any of them myself.

>>61513632
>pass 300 again.
STOP MAKING THEM SO QUICKLY FOR FUCKS SAKE

the bump limit is 320 here, not 300. Do you know how retarded it is to have TWO generals with the same name BUMPING? Leave it the fuck alone until its past 320

>>61503317
Holy shit, I'm glad you told that anon this. I never bothered to download the other books in the series mostly because I was lazy but also because I feared they wouldn't live up to the first one. I'm gonna download those asap and read them eventually.

>>61511694
Agree on this.

>>61511915
>to be almost exclusively politics (which just ruins threads, lets be honest)
Which ruins the threads are the faggos debating seriously about the other's ideology, imo. Instead of debating or discusing other matters of the news, they just go like "hurr you commie" or "deeeerp you alt-right"

>>61512203
That anenna from Mikrolänkmasten makes me very hard.

is hardwar hacking still a thing in a world where everything is soldered?

>>61514796
yes

>>61511388
>Just got my first vulnerability report thanks, company doesn't pay bounties but still feels good.
Which company is that? Complete bullshit you fix their problems and they didn't give you shit.

>>61506505
why are you in /g/, then, you fucking tard
hell, I just said in this very same thread, some subreddits are awesome for infosec stuff... yet people come here, where half or more people come to talk about muh /cyb/ bullshit

>>61507159
>implying I only visit /sec/ in 4chan
dumbass, I come here to laugh at retards like you

Hello
I'd like to inform you that OpenBSD is the most secure operating system.

In fact, Windows and Apples XNU (XNU is not UNIX) Kernal have both made significant improvements in terms of security mitigations, this infact means that Windows and Mac OSX are safer and less prone to attacks than windows.

Not to mention Systemd, which is suspected to be implanted by the CIA and NSA as a result of hacking attempts.

Reading the leaked Vault 7 documents exploits and keyloggers have been implanted in Windows, Mac OSX, FreeBSD, Linux, and Sun MIcrosystems Solaris.

I'd like to advocate you all on the use of OpenBSD, it is a free and lightweight OS designed for the practical paranoid, it's installation is simple and the average GNU/Linux user can adopt to it very simply.

If you consider yourself educated within Netsec and Cybersecruity, an encrypted OpenBSD machine is the best option you can make.

>>61494772
>nonymoose
>katanas

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>>61494783
thanks for the new wallpaper, bunkerbro. i followed some of your stuff on /diy/ and /k/ as well. super fascinating

bump for rmore comfy cyber dens

>>61516262
>>61516262
>this infact means that Windows and Mac OSX are safer and less prone to attacks than windows.

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>>61509619
wont always like mlp.....

bump, what are we working on today?

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I'm going to be hosting an IRC server on a VPN for an organization that's not important. What's the best country to rent a VPN in, and the best IRC client?

>>61518096
have you thought about perhaps doing a little bit of research

>>61518096
try romania

'best' client is relative is this case, i like hexchat others will like irssi use whatever you want nobody really cares

>>61518305
Why do you think i'm asking here? I'd rather do research with a guiding pointer rather than dive in blind.
>>61518336
Yeah I figured client wouldn't matter really, but wanted to make sure. Cheers.

>>61518389
>Why do you think i'm asking here?
Because youre lazy

>>61518411
>Because youre lazy
The greatest innovations of mankind came about because of being lazy. The wheel came because we didn't want to lift shit anymore, the horse carriage came because we got tired of wheeling stuff around, and the car came because we got tired of shoveling horse shit.

>>61518427
youre hosting an irc channel to talk about nothing of importance and or cheese pizza. you arent special.

>>61518441
What stick got up your ass to make you begin hallucinating to the extent where you thought I said I was special?

>>61518467
>im gonna be a lazy fuck and ask about VPNs AGAIN despite it coming up in EVERY THREAD and there being links to the previous threads in the OP
>hurr lazy is smrt look at what lazy people did
>nahUH I never said i was smrt! just posting these lazy people inventions for no reason or correlation at all!!!!

>>61518488
You seem to have anger issues, I recommend going for a nice hike away from the NWO botnet, and maybe bringing a nice book to read in nature.

>>61518527
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>>61518305
The thread is dead, long live the thread: >>61518752

>>61518762
OP why the fuck do you do this. The thread is NOT dead, its NOT AT BUMP LIMIT YET

>>61518781
It will be soon and I've had people complain about there not being a back-up thread ready.

>>61518802
But now we give more ammo to the people who are against general threads by having TWO actives on the board.

>>61494859
pajeets room in the future

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>>61518781
This means it is out of bumps. I mean, when it reaches 310 (if not 300) it stops bumping.

>>61518527
>this condescending bullshit
off your high horse anon, you're still a dumb fag

>>61518781
It says 313 in italics here. Seems 320 is quite past the limit.