Darknet websties shut down

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also he immediately """"killed himself"""" once imprisoned

>>61487946
This is another part I don't understand. How did he manage that? No article goes into detail about how he died. Just that he was found dead.

That's how they caught him.

You need to understand that it takes only ONE tiny little hole in your opsec to destroy the entire thing.

I am glad the Dutch police did this. But knowing our justice system and current politics, there will be a lot of questions about the legality of running the market, probably calling it entrapment.

>>61488061
Prisoners are pretty clever about that anon.
My niece is prison guard, they once found a guy who bit through his artery in has arm and wrapped a plastic bag around it so the guards wouldn't notice the blood.

>>61488061
hung himself

there's a photo of him laying dead in his cell with something around his neck

>>61488061
He hung himself with a towel.

>>61488167
>>61488165
Okay, another question. Why did he kill himself? Apparently he had a networth of $23mil. He could have afforded a pretty decent team of lawyers and as >>61488119 said, running the market is a bit of a legal grey area.

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>>61488247
he killed """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""himself""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>61488247
The money they found goes to evidence and is treated as illicit profits, he can't use it to pay a lawyer and if he tries to dig up more to pay the lawyer they'll just take it as well.

>>61488334
So they're seizing the money he made through his efforts. Fucking commies.

>>61488247
>decent team of lawyers
He was going to prison for life no matter what. It sucks for me, though, because I bought A LOT of carfentanil from his website and the police busted him with the decryption keys in an open .txt file. I really wish I'd learned how to use PGP now......

>>61488365
so everyone's a commie huh? seizure of illegally obtained assets is common to all legal systems worldwide

>>61488389
>decryption keys in an open .txt file
lol, i bet you $10 that they beat the keys out of him and thats party why he died in prison

>>61488320
""""""""""he"""""""""" killed himself

>>61487754
that's what you get for using hotmail

>>61487754

It's all bs. Tor is compromised as hell, most OSs except Linux are literal spyware, but they can't say any of this so they're blowing up smoke about how they got him through other means.

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How the fuck can you catch someone, let alone track someone with an e-mail like: >[email protected]

Did they contact Microsoft to tell them his IP or reveal his personal details?

This does not make any sense

That's like saying the FBI could SWAT me if I posted my email: [email protected]

>>61488476
>Did they contact Microsoft to tell them his IP or reveal his personal details?
....yes?

>>61488061

The pigs kill people when they don't want them talking. Imo, this has nothing to do with drugs, in every country the intelligence services are the biggest importers of drugs and the pigs are the ones collecting the revenues to go up the chain of command. I don't know why they wanted him dead. Were his forums political in any nature?

>>61487754
I know they are full of shit because they themselves revealed that there is ongoing massive effort to find exploits on tor everything from massive meta data gathering to straight up fucked up nodes.
Also necking himself just like that is dead giveaway that something went very wrong people dont just kill themselves for being in prison.

>>61489032
I read an ama a couple of months ago about a lulzsec hacker who got caught because one of his friends was a mole. But the authorities told the papers he was caught because they managed to trace his IP to his email address or some bullshit.

Will we ever have a new Silk Road worth using?

>>61489206
and how did they turn his friend into a mole?

>>61489299
>bunch of kids
>WE ARE TELLING YOUR MUM
>fine my fiend is X fuck him

>>61489299
Cute, fbi ass.

>>61489032
>people dont just kill themselves for being in prison
>guaranteed life sentence in a US federal prison

>>61489032
What about Aaron Hernandez?

>>61489308
sure
>>61489313
sure

>>61489322
Things need to be proven who did what ect.
>>61489328
What about him?

>>61488533
>this is what niggers and commies actually believe

>>61489348
>people dont just kill themselves for being in prison
>hangs himself in his prison cell after being convicted of homicide

>>61489348
>he doesn't know about the corrupt feds who were working on the Silk Road case

>>61489409
Man I get where you are going but having guilty conscience for murder and economic crime is not the same.

>>61488434
>seizure of illegally obtained assets is common to all legal systems worldwide
Don't you normally have a trial to determine if something was legal or illegal?

Is the state going to the local gas station and demanding they turn over to the state all the money he spent buying fuel with money earned from his alleged illegal actions? If not then why can they take money he spent or spends on a lawyer?

>>61488472
>most OSs except Linux are literal spyware
You mean the OS the NSA stepped in to 'fix'?

Also what good does your secure OS do if your hardware is spying on you?

>>61489509
can you find one thing that even indicates intels second chip is spying on people

Why do american faggots put their nosy paws in everything?

>not an american citizen
>no servers in america
>no american bank accounts
But because some of the users and dealers of the site were american, this is somehow enough to extradite. What the fuck.

>>61489565
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/230342-report-claims-intel-cpus-contain-enormous-security-flaw

>>61489589
this is an exploit doesn't mean your hardware is spying on you

>>61489587
Mexican cartels are the same and that doesn't mean he gets immunity.
Counties have signed extradition contracts so unless one is in Panama yes he will be going in US jail

>>61489587
You really haven't been paying attention to the last 100 years, have you?
You can't name a country on the planet that the US hasn't put its stinky corporate hands into.

>>61489611
>Intel builds an opaque hardware backdoor into every CPU with no practical way to turn it off
>but that doesn't mean they're actually using it

>>61489628
>extradition

The US doesn't care about extradition treaties. We just kidnap them if we want them. Hell, we sent the army in to get Noriega.

>>61487754
this is parallel construction. they're not going to publish how they actually caught him. Tor cannot be considered safe right now.

>>61489660
it would be trivially easy to tell whether Intel is actively doing this or not. people hate IME and PSP because they're liabilities, nothing more.

>>61489682
just like you captured Snowden and Assange right

>>61489713
Too politically high profile.

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>>61489713
>literally grand treason
>still get so live

>>61489701
>whether Intel is doing this

Novody is suggesting that it's bring done on a dragnet basis, nor that Intel is the one doing the spying. It's a deliberate vulnerability that is actively exploited by the NSA and God knows who else.

>>61489725
>GETS TO*
Thank acer

>>61488222
this, he used the towel he had brought with him. it makes sense he would sudoku, he was looking at life with no chance of parole getting rapped by niggers in an US prison.

>>61489713
The only check on this is the threat of war. We can do this with minor countries and allies, but Russia and its allies are off limits.

>>61489725
>literally grand treason

What is "grand treason" and who is the enemy that he gave aid and comfort to?

>>61489660
do you know what a backdoor is?

>>61489762
the people

>>61489762
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling

>>61489701
>it would be trivially easy to tell whether Intel is actively doing this or not
Ok, prove either point

>>61489682
That was a military operation. Is there any proof that america kidnaps non-terrorist criminals? The closest thing I know of is when the FBI pretends to have a job offer to hackers/scammers to get them to the US/ally territory.

>>61489767
Surely software that can turn your computer on, copy your encryption keys and entire hard drive, and phone home without you knowing counts as a backdoor...

>>61489831
no it counts as spy product not a backdoor

>>61489828
It's so common that the Supreme Court signed off on it.

>The Supreme Court's decision in United States v. Alvarez-Machain, 504 U.S. 655, 112 S.Ct. 2188, 119 L.Ed.2d 441 (1992), forecloses this argument.4 In Alvarez-Machain, the Court considered the issue of “whether a criminal defendant, abducted to the United States from a nation with which it has an extradition treaty, thereby acquires a defense to the jurisdiction of this country's courts.” Id. at 657. In answer, the Court stated: “We hold that he does not, and that he may be tried in federal district court for violations of the criminal law of the United States.” Id.

>>61489843
It's literally the example of a backdoor used on Wikipedia.

>A backdoor is a method, often secret, of bypassing normal authentication or encryption in a computer system, a product, or an embedded device (e.g. a home router), or its embodiment, e.g. as part of a cryptosystem, an algorithm, a chipset, or a "homunculus computer"[1] (such as that as found in Intel's AMT technology).

>>61489914
you have to be joking lad

>>61489931
Not a joke, lad.

>>61489938
no I mean your not really this stupid right your going too tell me it was bait right

>>61489496
>If not then why can they take money he spent or spends on a lawyer?
They're not freezing the money you spend on your lawyer, they're freezing any asset which is suspicious of proceeding from illegal activity and it's by judge order.
That's why many colombian and mexican drug lords end up publishing books or selling rights to movies and tv shows so they can gain legal assets to pay for their defense in court since all their stuff got seized and they don't want the rest of their hidden stash to get seized as well.

>>61489961
Not an argument, friendo.

>>61489997
yeah because I genuinely don't believe you're being serious

>>61490003
Still not an argument. Make your point already, you're boring me.

>>61490020
always gotta have the last word huh?

>>61490033
Are you disappointed that you're exposed?

>>61489963
>They're not freezing the money you spend on your lawyer, they're freezing any asset which is suspicious of proceeding from illegal activity and it's by judge order.
So the state gets someone on the payroll of the state to say take this and it's fine. That what they take just happens to be means to mount an effective legal defense is totally not an issue.

I'd love to see a judge freeze the assets of the government's legal department and see how the state tries to get it unfrozen without being able to pay anyone to file the paper work or go to court.

You get why it's a total mismatch don't you? Here is someone already facing the unlimited budget of a government, and the government takes all of the money that person might use to hire legal experts and then gets to have a "fair" trail.

>>61490048
no, there is literally no evidence that it's a backdoor, the only thing you've cited says it has exploits that could be used to gain access not a backdoor

>>61489587
If you want to sell illegal goods on a global scale you should never ever sell to the US. And when sketchy people come knocking and ask you to sell your goods to them so they can move them to the US you're getting busted as you speak.

>TOR is funded by US Navy intelligence and FBI

>Anons think it's actually safe to use

>>61490067
>literally no evidence that's its a backdoor
>it's the textbook definition of malicious homunculus computer

>>61488247
They seized all his assets. He couldn't afford a hot dog.

>>61490110
>still posted no evidence it's a backdoor
also I never said it was non malicious I said you're using the term backdoor wrongly

>>61490056
Stop strawmanning, to freeze someone's assets you need a mountain of evidence of which these people always leave behind cause they're not criminal masterminds as it has been evidenced with every drug lord and even DPR and this fool using hotmail.
They don't catch drug lords after 2 days, it takes years of evidence gathering.
Yeah it sure is a mismatch for you to use your blood cocaine money to buy 20 super kike lawyers.

>>61490163
>to freeze someone's assets you need a mountain of evidence

no you don't

they just charge the money with a crime and take it

asset forfeiture

>>61490137
>wrongly

Jesus. Make your point already.

>>61490172
>they just charge the money with a crime
yeah ok i see you got no argument, just fuck off babby

>>61490115
Idiot was earning Buttcoins and could have hidden some wallets but he put it into easily seizable objects and bank accounts when every bank on this planet cooperates with the US.

>>61490179
you called something a backdoor when it isn't

>>61490194
It's obviously a backdoor. It's the very definition of a backdoor. Tell me how it isn't a backdoor if you're challenging my claim.

>>61490163
>Stop strawmanning, to freeze someone's assets you need a mountain of evidence of which these people always leave behind cause they're not criminal masterminds as it has been evidenced with every drug lord and even DPR and this fool using hotmail.

No you need a Judge to say it is fine.

>Yeah it sure is a mismatch for you to use your blood cocaine money to buy 20 super kike lawyers.
? I think you need to clam down and take your meds.

>>61490097
It is supposedly for people in repressive countries to break out of the repressive state firewalls but whether or not they really trust it I don't know. Considering the mess the burgers have made in some countries I wouldn't be surprised if the repressed would be very cynical about something that is meant to help them but is actually a black box assciated with illegal weapons and illegal drugs.

If I lived in those countries I think I would be cycical and skeptical about the whole thing. Remember those people have many reasons to fear governments going back centuries, it is not just a recent thing.

>>61490239
I literally said it's by judge order, can't you read a chain of replies >>61489963 And the judge can only sign it with tangible evidence.
If you can prove they're not from illegal proceedings and laundered they have to unfreeze them during trial.

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>>61490186
They do it all the time

>>61489299
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/646vk9/iama_convicted_lulzsecanonymous_hacker_ama/

Not sure but here's the ama. All of his posts have been deleted of course.

>>61490231
a backdoor is something put it to give the creators access at the highest possible level, there's no proof this is why intel put it in

>>61490602
>intent determines whether it's a backdoor or not

Thanks for reminding me how retarded this place is.

>>61490675
no, it's purpose determines if it's a backdoor

also as you said earlier
>Still not an argument.

since he died shouldnt everybody send him some farewell mails?

i think from his email address i can say with high confidence that he was a quality person.

i know alex will read my email in heaven
>[email protected]
i miss u <3

>>61490688
>it's purpose determines of its a backdoor

No, it's capabilities determine whether it's a backdoor. It can secretly access memory, your hard drive, power on your computer, and exfiltrate data. It's clearly a backdoor. No amount of pinky promises from Intel will change that.

>>61490777
ah so windows and linux are backdoors since they have similar capabilities

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>>61490783
>entire operating systems are backdoors

>>61490813
you said anything with that kind of capability is, your OS has that capability therefore it is - oh also your brains a backdoor to your body since it's capable of controlling you

>>61490832
There are components within the OS that are backdoors. Surely you see how ridiculous your position is.

>>61490854
no, the intel second chip isn't a backdoor, it's malicious hardware

>>61490832
>>61490854
>>61490867
4chan is a backdoor, you're on a watchlist for posting this

>>61490879
>you're eyes are backdoors into everything you see

>>61490867
>malicious hardware with access to everything on the computer

Almost as though it's a door in the back of your computer....

>>61490890
>you're

How can backdoors be real if computers aren't real?

>>61490915
you fucking idiot, backdoors are created on purpose so unless you can prove they made it have exploits on purpose it isn't a backdoor

>>61490922
>>you're
I pcik which I'm going to use randomly it usually gets you a (you) or too

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>>61488165
>female guard in a male prison
what could possibly go wrong

>>61490934
>it's not a backdoor because they meant well when they made it closed source, gave it access to your entire system, and gave you no way to disable it

>>61490979
ok so every exploit that can lead to entire system control is a backdoor then?

>>61491004
If the "exploit" is deliberately designed into the system then it's a backdoor.

>>61487754
Literally who?

>>61491066
I agree, but theres no proof they did it on purpose and until there is it's not a backdoor it's just an exploit

>>61491077
>no proof they did it on purpose

There's no proof Intel designed ME/AMT to be able to access everything on your computer? It's a backdoor regardless of malicious use or intent. I don't think you'll find anyone who agrees that ME/AMT (or it's AMD counterpart) isn't a backdoor.

>>61491123
you said
>If the "exploit" is deliberately designed into the system then it's a backdoor.

so back up what you said and prove they did it on purpose

By this definition, management ports and software SoC in routers and CPUs are backdoors. Even though they are known, documented and advertised features, they are backdoors.

Nurse!

Nuuurrrse!

Nuuuuuuuuurrrrrrse!

>>61491133
>prove they did it on purpose

Prove they did what on purpose? At what point does intent matter at all?

>>61491200
>If the "exploit" is deliberately designed into the system then it's a backdoor.
prove the added exploits on purpose

>>61491184
>muh argument to absurdity

ME/AMT serves no purpose other than to provide a backdoor.

>>61491212
Exploit was your word, which is why I put it in quotations. You're obviously an Intel fanboy. Would you feel better if I told you AMD has essentially the same program?

>>61491238
no I use AMD, I think intels over shilled and only popular cause it's what youtubers use - still haven't proved it's malicious by design though weird, almost as if you were wrong and can't provide any proof

>>61491257
As I've said a thousand times, intent is irrelevant.

>>61491288
you said it had to be deliberately designed to be a backdoor so prove it being exploitable was deliberate

>>61491307
I said it was deliberately designed to provide access to everything on the computer. It's clearly a backdoor. You're reading "malicious" and "exploitable" into the definition of backdoor.

>>61491344
>I said it was deliberately designed to provide access to everything on the computer.
Which windows and linux are, so they're backdoors

>>61491363
>operating systems are backdoors because they provide access to operating systems

>>61491416
>hardware controls software; backdoor
>software controls software; not backdoor

>>61491429
>A backdoor is a method, often secret, of bypassing normal authentication in a product, computer system, cryptosystem or algorithm etc. Backdoors are often used for securing unauthorized remote access to a computer, or obtaining access to plaintext in cryptographic systems.

By definition, ME/AMT is a backdoor. Cry more l.

>>61491220
Yes it provides that functionality for the company admin who selected it for that purpose.

>>61489589
This exploit only works if you actually turned on the ME, only affects businesses, however it is very suspicious how insecure the login was, all you had to do is send an empty password with a specially crafted program and you're in.

If you are so paranoid that your jaywalking stories are going to land you in jail then don't buy intel CPUs with the vPro tech, not sure about AMD.

>>61491562
>for the company admin who selected it for that purpose

It's on every Intel chip and there's no way to transparently opt out. 99.9% of users will never use it for its intented purpose.

>>61491613
Then do what I do, use one pc for internet use only and use it with caution. You do have a collection of pcs, don't you, like the rest of us!

>>61489509
>>61489589
>>61489660
>>61489729
>>61489914
>>61490777
>>61491123
So, for someone concerned about their privacy and is against locked-down/backdoored hardware:

1. Which Intel CPUs are vulnerable to ME/AMT? What should we NOT use?

2. What can we use instead? Is AMD """probably""" safe?

>>61489496
>Don't you normally have a trial to determine if something was legal or illegal?
LoL

look up Civil Asset Forfeiture faggot

>>61492233
Ignore the bullshit blogspam fearmongering and get on with your life.

>>61488389
I really hope you were only using it for yourself.

>>61492233
Sandybridge is the last safe generation. To make it safe, you have to install core boot and manually disable ME.

AMD is similarly compromised.

>>61492325
>privacy isn't important to me, so nobody else should care either

>>61489762
American citizens.

>>61490115
what about a opensource hot dog

>>61490953
are you seriously implying that women can't be as strong as men right now? so many of you disgusting bigots on this site i can't stand it

>>61487946
desu if you read Ross' trial, you would see why anyone would kill himself.

>>61488167
hanged himself*

>>61488472
>most OSs except Linux are literal spyware,
linux is not an OS

>>61492934
2/10

>>61487754

who this dufus with the lame car?

>>61492233
>What can we use instead?
OpenSPARC

>>61492527
>Sandybridge is the last safe generation. To make it safe, you have to install core boot and manually disable ME.
Do you have a source?

Also, what is the latest safe AMD?

>>61493316
yes it is.

>>61490953
Shes a big girl.

>when you're so rich you can pay the Thai government to tell the US you played a quick round of neckrope
Probably inside some Thai boipussy right now

>>61487946
Believe this and you will believe anything...

>91
fuggg I haven't accomplished anything in life ::::DDDDD

>>61487754
I keep telling everyone this but everyone here just shrugs me off. I'll say it again. Look at the fucking facts about Tor. It's design is fundamentally flawed right out of the box.

Almost no one is a router/node. Just a client that talks to a very limited set of nodes of which most are run by government agencies. Traffic correlation is not only possible but pathetically easy when you run that many nodes.

Another "odd" thing about the TBB is JS is still enabled by default right out of the box. The devs went to all the trouble to program a security slider menu and then intentionally set it to the weakest mode by default...

It's time for i2p. Just look at the facts. No one has ever been busted using i2p. Ever. And it's been around as long as Tor.

>>61498800
>Just a client that talks to a very limited set of nodes of which most are run by government agencies.
then why has the NSA stuck to shitty end-point attacks?

>Another "odd" thing about the TBB is JS is still enabled by default right out of the box.
gotta (((help the normies)))

>>61487754
hey so they found him because he had plaintext info linking stuff. so PGP is safe? all my BTH TRANSACTIONS ARE SAFE RIGHT REEEEEEEE I HAD A PROBLEM I PROMISE I STOPPED

>>61488119
Why are you glad? What do you think this achieved?

I ask this question to everyone that feels positively towards drug markets being taken down. What do you think their takedowns will achieve?

>>61489509
>You mean the OS the NSA stepped in to 'fix'?

DEMONSTRATE A FLAW IN SELINUX. DO IT FAGGOT.

>>61497363
For you.

>>61487754
If you need some related background noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkgfH-ojz4o

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Fill in the blank:
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>>61488086
That's not tiny at all. That's retard level.

>>61500409
killed your mother in front of you

>>61493084
Quick rundown please

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>>61487754
>I don't know, seems a little too convenient. How'd he really get caught, /g/?- 162 posts and 8 image replies shown.
Tor exploit.

To hide their method, they just collected all the evidence from servers and his personal computers and then concocted this bullshit story. See pic related.

>>61487946
>killed himself
he knew too much. someone paid to have him killed. dead men tell no stories.... to get a more lenient sentence.