/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

What are the best 2nd hand business laptops other than lenovos?
Anything to look out for buying used?
How do I know that the battery life hasnt decayed?

>>61482373
Dells

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Just broke this on my x220. Do I buy a new bottom, new battery, new charger and FHD mod OR buy new laptop with 1080p

>>61482392
Just use glue on it.

>>61482400
I did but the material is extremely cheap. The small piece shattered into 2 more pieces while I was holding it into place just from the pressure of my thumb and forefinger.

should I buy a 100$ thinkpad or just stick with my Lattitude e6400

Im going to buy a T400 for college?
Anything in special i need to see?

Led blacklight.
No Passwords.
Good looking, no cracks.
2GB RAM P8600 for $60.

Its a good deal right? im trying to ask for the type serial but the guy keeps avoiding it, good thing the site i will buy it through lets me fuck over the guy if he doesn't tell me before sending it.

Also what was the site to check the Type codes?
It used to be in the OP but it doesnt anymore.

I want to upgrade my Wireless PCIe card to something that doesn't require non-free frimware and came across: https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-AR5BHB92-Dual-band-802-11b-Toshiba/dp/B009HN63QQ

However it doesn't have bluetooth. Any suggestions for a Wireless PCIe card with bluetooth will be great. Thanks!

>>61482417
Saddest part about it is I kept it in pristine condition, so there's no scratches or blemishes anywhere else. I just want a solid linux machine that's 1080p. Can't be assed to do another semester of assignments in 3-5 workspaces.

>>61482373
hp elitebooks, dell latitudes and precisions

>Anything to look out for buying used?
supervisor passwords, computrace, intel anti-theft, lojack, those kinds of things
>How do I know that the battery life hasnt decayed?
yolo, unless you want to spend a couple hours running a battery gauge reset or recalibration before buying it

>>61482438
if you can get him to send a picture of the bottom of the laptop it you should be able to find the model number and serial number

then just stick the serial number in here, I think this is what you're asking for
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/?menu-id=Technical_Support

Why is http://tp.krelay.de/ dead? It has been for a while apparently.

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My girlfriend loves her x220 Tablet! She got it for $130 on ebay, and it's in pretty great shape!

I have a T430, and I'm wondering if there's a way to put a 1080p screen in it. I've already put 8 gigs of RAM, 2 SSD's and an extended battery on it. But 1600x900 is just disgusting.

so i just got a brand new genuine 9-cell for my t420 but i can't get the 10 hours of battery life i hoped for. i'm running arch. are there any tweaks i can do to improve my battery life?

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Hi, I needed to post thanks from the previous thread since im such a good good boy

>>61482598
decrease screen brightness
after that, try to use the least cpu possible

>>61482496
Its not, it was a simpler site, i think it was this site:
>>61482556

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>>61482565
i'm sure she would love pic related for her birthday

I can get a refurb t430 for 250 usd after taxes and shipping, should I do it?

>>61482659
specs? you can find them cheaper

>>61482712
i5 3320, 4GB ram and a 128GB ssd

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My new W530 is way better than I thought it would be. 1080p @ 50+ fps on high settings.

Not too bad for a little over $300.

>>61482984
>thinkpad for gaming
You don't belong here.

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> Specs in pic
Alright lads, I am very new to Thinkpads, let me just clear something up, (I am an idiot). I have a large budget right now because I am currently neet status, and I have been looking at a super beefin P71. Is it too overkill though? I dont mind paying 4000 dollars if it is reliable and powerful, and I feel like it is very future proof. I will probably only be using it for CS/Krita, Flash/Toonboom, and some very mild gaymen. Would you call this a stupid purchase for what I need?

>>61483202
>Would you call this a stupid purchase for what I need?

yep, you do not want or need a quadro gpu or xeon cpu, they are worse than i7/geforce gpu for what you're using it for

and 17" laptops are ridiculous, it weighs almost 8 lbs and it has a huge power brick to go with it, if you want or need mobility in the future you will want to buy something else

>>61482314
friend is looking for a laptop for $650

Hes about to get one on newegg for that price, 15.4 inch 1080p
i7 6300U
8gb Ram
1tb HDD 128gb SSD
2gb 1050 GPU

Anything better for the price he can get it for?

>>61482648
Why does /tpg/ hate tablets?

>>61483202
>I have more money than sense
get something ike a t470 and build a workstation.

>>61482565
i've stopped liking mine after using it for two years. its laggy, heats up pretty quick and horrible battery life. guess i'll drill some holes at the bottom for better cooling before shelling out for a new laptop

>>61483396
t470 would be better purchase? Thanks man, and yeah. I have a bit of the dumbs when it comes to this stuff.

>>61483535
Well for me it would be a better buy.

Sure, a maxxed p71 is really powerful but IMO it doesn't make sense as a laptop. Thing is massive and huge.

The t470 has good specs and is portable.

If you really need performance you should have a workstation

for <500 is there a better option than a t430 with i7, 5200m? I'm seriously asking
>12.5 is a tad too small, 15.6 is too much machine except maybe an xps15, but thats like 1k

>>61484200
where the fuck are you where t430s cost anywhere near $500?
You should easily be able to get them for $200-$300
and if you are talking about the quadcore i7 then fuck no
my t430 only has a dualcore i5 and it throttles terribly any time the gpu thinks about being under load
>>61483327
if specs are the only things that matters to him then no
you don't buy "premium" or "business" laptops for the price to performance and you are retarded if you even consider it

>>61484240
ebay ;-;
I'm a poor college student I just want to be able to run anti aliased 2015 solidworks for less than 500 bucks

>>61484240
>>61484499
>forgot
I'm seeing them for ~400 on ebay, and im just rounding up to 5 to factor in the inevitable RAM, ssd, or battery upgrade

>>61484527
$330 for i7 and nvs 5400m
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-laptop-Core-i7-3-6GHZ-1600X900-NVIDIA-500GB-8GB-/122388317283?hash=item1c7ee98463:g:FRYAAOSw-0xYgJh2

>>61484538
>win10

>>61484538
thanks anon

Im buying an used w510, but im afraid that the old gpu (which is probably useless nowadays) could drain all the battery (which probably is shit by now). What I need most is a durable battery.
What can I do about it?

>>61483014
it's you who don't belong here, aspie
There is nothing wrong with gayming on thinkpad, especially if its equipped with egpu

>>61484564
reading is hard
>O/S: Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit - windows 10 pro 64 bit as you choose
>>61484742
buy a t420/30 instead
don't buy older w series they're a waste of power and space

Would you guys rec a T440 or T440p over something newer like an Acer Aspire E5-575-539R? I can get one of the used thinkpads for for about $324 and the Aspire for $150 more.

Some guy told me that getting a rx460 as egpu is a mistake. Why? Will it work on pe4c?

>>61482392
I'd personally just buy the casing for it; you can usually find one pretty cheap on eBay or maybe even Amazon. Failing that, buy a bricked one and tear that apart.

It would be a good excuse to buy a new laptop though if that's what you're looknig for. I probably would desu.

>>61482565
she thicc

>>61483202
Go for it, if you'd like. I was going to type a real snarky comment, but in all honesty I'm just jelly.

Even if you don't use all its power all the time, if you want it you should get it. Besides, it'd open you up to more opportunities later if you want to start video rendering and the like.

Thinking of buying this, not experienced with buying used laptops

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430s-laptop-i7-3520M-8G-RAM-128G-SSD-HD-14-LED-1600x900-Res-/292122690001?epid=2134876373&hash=item4403de81d1:g:I-QAAOSwA3dYlnSS#rwid

Would rec y/n?

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>>61482438

I have a T400 with a P8400 and the HD3470.

Throw 8GB of RAM and an SSD in it and it'll perform as good or better than modern laptops in 99.9r% of applications. Supports Libreboot as well if that's your jam (although you'll lose access to the dedicated AMD GPU if yours has one and you'll be stuck with the integrated Intel trash).

>>61483014

> Not taking time to enjoy interactive entertainment after your work is finished

If all you do is play games all day than yeah you're a degenerate, but it's nice having the ability to get some gaming in while not having to compromise on your notebook selection.

What the fuck else are you supposed to do when you're stuck in some Motel 6 in the middle of nowhere in some flyover state shithole on a business trip?

>>61486133
how much in real money?

>>61486323
That is $357. Then again thinkpads are supposedly expensive anywhere but the USA.

>>61486331
nah m8, that's too much imo. Specially for a t430s, which is kind of shit.

the i7, won't make much of a difference. It's still a dualcore with higher clockspeeds.

>>61486373
This man speaks the truth.

In the suggestions I noticed this one, for example, a much better deal:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-FAST-LAPTOP-i5-3320M-2-6GHZ-8GB-160GB-SSD-DVDRW-14-win-7/282548447911

>>61486409
>http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-FAST-LAPTOP-i5-3320M-2-6GHZ-8GB-160GB-SSD-DVDRW-14-win-7/282548447911

Ah I see, there were heaps of T430 going for cheaper, I guess the i7 doesnt matter

>>61486425
Not really. Unless it's a really good deal. I bought my T430 (i7 and Nvidia) for ~300€. More than that would be too much.
I also bought a T420 (i5, integrated graphics) for my wife, and it runs really well.

>>61486439

Wb a t440 or t440p, I've heard the trackpads are terrible but I have a mouse anyway so its not really a dealbreaker. I can get one for about 350 AUD

>>61486467
I work in a T540p, I can confirm that the trackpads are shit, but yeah, with a propper mouse, it's a great machine.

>>61486467
avoid, t440, get the t440p

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>>61483426
Try applying new thermal paste. Just did that with my x200 and x201. The OEM application was chalk after 7+ years lol.

>>61486080
Just a little~ B)

Will 2x8GB Kingston LV ram work in a X230?

>>61486563

So it's between:

T440p 8GB, i7-4600m, 500GB HDD
$324

https://www.pb-tech.com.au/product/EXNBKLEN443/ThinkPad-T440p-Notebook-OFF-LEASE-Intel-Core-i7-46

and

T430 8GB, i5 3320M, 160GB SSD
$200

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-FAST-LAPTOP-i5-3320M-2-6GHZ-8GB-160GB-SSD-DVDRW-14-win-7-/282548447911?hash=item41c9332aa7:g:wnEAAOSw-kdXy4CA

>>61486804
The T440p looks good to me, for that price, I'd go with it.

Is there any way to force sleep on these things, or is ot that if they're frozen your only recourse is to force shutdown like every other laptop?

Should i enable Trusted Execution Technology and HP Dynamic Protection?

I'm looking to get a cheap ass laptop for some casual web browsing and media watching in bed and when I travel. I already have a powerful desktop for all my power usage needs.
Any recommendations on thinkpads or thinkpad like laptops?
My requirements are:
>1080p ips screen, or at least upgrade-able to one -easily-
>battery life can be bad, as long as I can get a solid 2 hours out of it
>easy to open up and get in 8gb of ram and an SSD
>able to plug into an HDMI television. IIRC mini-displayport can work with a simple converter cable
>at least Sandybridge or later. Preferably around Haswell but this is something I can compromise on.
>USB 3.0 is a huge plus
Budget is literally unlimited, but preferably cheaper than a brand new low-end laptop. I guess around $250 or so, not including the upgrade parts I'd want.

So far it's kind of looking like my best option is a X230. Newegg is selling a 2.6ghz one for $189, which would give me a little wiggle room so I can comfortably get a 250gb ssd instead of doing the disc drive swap method for running 2 drives. The only downside is that it looks like the screen upgrade is a bitch on the x230.

Why is it so hard to find an X230 that anything other than i5-3320m? Isn't worth waiting around for something better to get listed or would it not be worth the extra cost?

>>61487636
1080p IPS screens begin only on the universally reviled *40 series. X230 is able to accept a 2K mod but you'll have to get a converter board from the chinks at 51nb.

>>61483014
The main purpose was not for gaming. It was just a nice surprise that it could handle it.

What is best cpu upgrade for t520 without house fire risk?

>>61487567
>Is there any way to force sleep on these things

Please respond, my meek W510 hasn't been useable since I woke, so I'd rather force shutdown instead of keeping a frozen machine on in summer heat.

>>61487861
dual core i7-2620M, no quad core because that's the definition of housefire risk

>>61487892
I went ahead and forced shutdown anyway but still.

>>61486605
ive done that and clean out the fan. the temperature still easily goes up to 70℃+ maybe a better fan? I've read on 51nb that toshiba fan works better? right now, i have to turn on my standing fan to act as a better exhaust system

>>61482314
X131e, is it any good? I've got a deal for 120-ish USD

Specs:

Intel Celeron
4GB RAM
1TB HDD
11.5inches screen

SHOULD I BITE? I want to, just because of the HDD (I can shove a 512GB in and use the 1TB as external)

>>61488111
Not sure about the x220's so much yet, I know my x201 only ever would heat up to 50°C, so your claim to 70°C+ is certainly not a good temp. I have yet to test the x201 or the x200 with the new paste but I assume it'll be better given the condition of the OEM paste…

Also, if a Thinkpad fan forum gave you advice on a new fan, they're probably right. The threads I've found and followed have yet to steer me wrong. Give it a try if it'a not too expensive, why not? Better than drilling holes in your chassis.

I'm going to have to buy a laptop for programming and shit. I also want to play a few old games on it for when I have free time. I'll be playing San Andreas (so it needs to have relatively high single core performance) and morrowind. What model ThinkPad do you recommend? (20-30fps is entirely playable in my books)

>>61488721
Both can run on integrated graphics btw. They need at least 3gb of ram but I'll get 4 out of convenience

>>61482984
Dang bruh. Did you get the one with the k2000m? I wasn't able to find one.

Budget: £250-300
Location: England
Size: ~14"
Performance: can run Vidya made in 2005 -2007 with ease (I hope this is in the price range)
Other: I could upgrade the CPU if I save up for another few months.

>>61488371
wouldn't bite for $40

>>61488111
>℃
>51nb
fuck off chinky

>>61489265
>being a gweilo
enjoy your cancer tier 1366x768 screens laowai

>>61489305
heheh 仆街

>>61489105
That's more than enough to buy you a T430 with Nvidia.
I have one and played GTA V all the way on it, so it should fill more than your needs.

>>614885090
ya i should get a new fan first then. trying to squeeze more performance out of it before getting a new one

>>61489305
oh be nice. they are mad because they can't send in their chickpads for 2k panel upgrade

>>61489844
What is this 2k panel upgrade you speak of?

>>61489919
someone on 51nb figure how to put a 2k sharp panel onto the x220, x230, t420(s), t430(s). same guy who did the fhd mod. seems like he is routing the display port onto a custom made board and work similar to the fhd mod

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>>61489919
panel used for the 2k mod

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>>61482565
Get a Fujitsu Digitizer Pen. Has much better pressure sensitivity

Is there any way to get a 90 degree charging cable for my T510? I hate getting jabbed by it.

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>>61482984
>not having a powerful desktop and using steam in home streaming over ethernet

You done fucked it up son, my T520 has a 1080Ti and 3770K.

>>61490161
Thanks Anon! I'll let her know! She was indeed complaining about the stock pen and considered upgrading.

OK lads! Here's a question for you all-
T420 with i5 3320m(coreboot) or t430(same CPU/gpu). Who wins at same price?

>>61490166
kek

>>61490454
the T430 also has USB 3.0, also being slightly newer it's more likely to be in better condition and have a better battery

>>61490454
Whats your keyboard preference? If indifferent t430

>>61490567
>not replacing the keyboard and flashing the bios

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>>61483426
>guess i'll drill some holes
I did it on my x220.

>>61490792
That vanilla RAM door is seriously bugging me

>>61490792
Jesus christ, I had no idea the x220 had such shit ventilation.

>>61490157
>12.5 inch
>2k
Whay?

>>61490826
>>61490826
yha, me too. I thinking in buy a new on in aliexpress.

>>61490792
>>61490852
i think the small vents just glt covered up by the vinyl. pretty cool cut out though. most I've seen is the combination of holes and smaller holes. you did added some filter to it right? how much did it improved?

>>61491053
>you did added some filter to it right
No, I have to do it because it's been almost a week and it's almost full of dirt.
>how much did it improved?
About 20Cº. Before i have throttling (97Cº) now the máx is 76 ~ 77Cº. Normal use 55 ~ 54Cº, before 70 ~ 80Cº.

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>>61482565
>>61490161
>>61490368
ya the Fujitsu pen is nice, better pressure sensitivity + extra side button

I got rid of my X220t for an X230 non-tablet but I still have the Fujitsu pen. If you want to paypal/btc me $10 I'll send it off in a USPS flat rate envelope.

>>61490600
its the EC

Hi, im about to buy a second hand X220, how can i be sure that it misnt hard locked? should just entering the BIOS be enough?

The guy said the HD is locked with Bit Locker.

>>61491883
Im guessing its stolen anon
but you said you were broke in the thread right?

Theres a security section under bios
make the seller post the entire security section with the passwords
they should all be disabled

>>61491425
Damn, I'll consider that for sure. You can contact me at https://lewd.pics/irc . Just mention it in #chat and I'll contact ya.

>>61491980
yep, broke for the moment, and i need it for my freelance work, DVR installations, monitoring, installing, configuring copiers and some administration work.

Ok anon thanks, ill ask the guy to send me a pic or i can check it myself, is not a long drive.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230-Laptop-12-5-IPS-i5-3320M-2-6GHz-8GB-128GB-SSD-WiFi-BT-Win7-/362044516690?hash=item544b88e952:g:vcoAAOSwxbtZcF8s#viTabs_0

Would you?

>>61492698
>$300

Hell fucking no.

>>61482791
Nah, on Amazon there's a t430 with i5 3320m, 230g hdd, and 8g ram for 240$

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LXCLDRI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_nsKCzbPN1493D

>>61483202
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ go for it but pick cheapest ram and drive options and buy them aftermarket. pc manufacturers tend overcharge for them in workstations.

just ordered a T520 for $90

I do good guys?

>>61492760
sorry meant 320g hdd, excuse my autism

>>61492794
i5 2nd Gen 2.5GHz 320GB 4GB DVD Windows 10

If I were to replace my cpu(i5 dual, integrated) for a an AMD APU(7660d quad) on a 8g t430.

Would everything be bueno?

>>61492899
How are you going to do it? These two require different chipsets on the mobo

Hello my beloved fa/g/s, I’m in need of your advice.

I have an x201, and I’m absolutely in love with the little bastard, but unfortunately, because of work I need a machine that can run windows with more ease, so I need to upgrade. I’m between an x230 or a T520, both i5 with ssd and 8gb of ram.

Which do you recommend? I will be running windows 7 pro on the new machine exclusively.

9-cell battery for T420 just arrived. Get 6 hours on 60% battery life now, so much power.

>>61493026
>fa/g/s
>in love with the little bastard

This isn't the schoolyard, you are allowed to sound intelligent here.

>>61493218
>you are allowed to sound intelligent here

you should spend some time reading threats around here, nigger. You may be able to demand clean speech in your favorite subreddit, but here free speech is king.

Also, you could try answering the fucking question.

>>61493417
Not making demands, just letting you know, you don't have to talk like a some pleb off the street, we won't make fun of you for asking questions normally.

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should I keep buying chink 9cells and burning them up in one year or shill out for a proper one? pic related chink 9cell after a year. t520 btw

x250 or nah?
It's really cute, just like myself. But it's just out of my budget and I would have to ask my mommy for money.

>>61492794
yeah anon you did well

>>61493754
nah lad. x240 is prettier.

>>61493218
>this much autism over phrasing
man you shouldve been here when that /sp/ stopped by

just answer his question anon

>>61493026
X230
because portability is nice
also ivy bridge has better graphics
dont know if itll apply to you but if theyre both the same price might as well go for the X230

>>61494163
anon pardon my autism (or lack there of) but they look the exact fucking same.

>>61494098
groovy, i been thinking i got a deal, but didnt want to get my hopes up on it being in case its brokedick on arrival.

its supposed to have a working battery, ac adapter, and HDD with windows 10 on it (gentoo incoming baby)

>>61493754
so is the X240 anon
maybe look into that plus trackpad swap
the xx50 series is basically lenovos apology for the xx40 series anyway

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>>61494251
Check pic related. these are the keyboards of the x220, x230 and x240 side by side.

>>61494367
what about the X250?
this has nothing to do with the X220 or X230 anon

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>>61494367
can you spot the difference now anon?

>>61494500
There are real buttons for the trackpoint on the x250, that's the only difference in terms of how these look like. You can put x250's trackpad assembly to x240 though.

>>61494648
exactly so why this >>61494163

>>61494662
dunno, that's not me

>>61494672
oh okay then anon

>tfw everything with IPS monitors either sucks or is overpriced
feelsbadman

Anyone swapped out a 1366x768 TN panel in a T440P for a 1920x1080 IPS panel? Simple process, right? I am just a little unsure due to a lot of forums advising strictly to only use panels Lenovo recommends.

Also swapping the trackpad is going to be a bitch disassembling it almost entirely isn't it?

Looking for my dadyo

so I just saw the news that the retro was re-confirmed back in june.
So are we finally getting what we want, or is there something that should make me curb my enthusiasm?

>>61495167

what's up son....

>>61494367
wow, it's just a straight line of regression.

I bought an x250 on eBay and it came not backlit meanwhile it was backlit in description and pictures. Should I send it back to the seller? Or can I convince him to pay me the backlit keyboard.
+ Battery came fucked up while it was written new.
The point is I got it for a good price and it's in a fairly good state.

>>61495281

yeah contact the seller, most time they'll give you a partial refund. worth a try.

Is there a looking difference between 6cell and 3cell battery for x240/250? 6cell is doubled weight but huge increase in battery life

Libreroot for X220 when?
Decided I'm not going to flash Coreboot, other than not using it for online banking what else should I avoid?

>>61495328
3-cell sits completely flush in the laptop, 6-cell is bulged out of the bottom, it tilts the laptop up a bit

unlike all the previous generations where the extended battery is bulged out the back the x240 + can't extend back because of the drop hinges

if you work in IT please convince your boss to buy the retro thinkpad so that it will be affordable to buy used in a few years.

>>61495409

amen

>>61494861
X220 and x230 too?

>>61489250
This is the Czech republic we're talking about. LITERALLY no ThinkPad under 120$.

>>61487660
for laptops it doesn't make much of a difference if you choose a i7 vs a i5, they are both dual cores with hyper threading, in fact the i7 will drain more power and produce more heat

>>61494861

i bought an an x220 with ips for $49 USD :) So no it's not overpriced.

>>61495367
Jewgle(a subsidiary of NSA) is not snooping for your bank account details. They already have a ton of money. The only thing they want is info about you, so that if in future, you stand as a threat to them or their agenda, they can blackmail you into submission.

>>61495669

duck duck go

>>61495640
perfect answer, thanks anon, luckily the UK is terrible so its all i5-3320m anyway

>>61495681
botnet

>>61495113
I think you need a cable that only comes with the 900p or fhd display.

>>61495177
lead thinkpad designer for 20 years, david hill left lenovo a month ago.

it's going to be shit

>>61495815
oh so the guy that ruined thinkpads?

>>61495815
>>61495177

i think it will be better than the current lineup of trash. the deal breaker for me will be no return of 7 row of keys as well as poor ultrabay function and poor expansion slots like the ExpressCard slot.

ideally id want hotswappeable ultrabay that can be bootable as well as full size m.2 slot thats PCIE based and bootable as well as an m.2 to msata adapter then a standard 2.5" bay and an ExpressCard slot. also 3cell internal battery that can be removed then option of 6c or 9c external battery and also a battery slice.

But sadly (with the way things are) lenovo isnt going to fabricate or make anything new for a niche market. they will just use whats already available from the t470

>>61495815
Why do you glorify someone that saw us through a massive amount of dumb-downs of design? the new lead designer might actually like what thinkpad was during the IBM era, not just see classical thinkpads as a gimmicky "retro design" for "superfans"

>>61496087
>no return of 7 row of keys
what the hell?
I can't tell if you're saying this is the case, or if this is a hypothetical dealbreaker.
No 7 row no buy.

Is there any reason a keyboard from a t410 shouldn't work with a t430?
Also is there a way to do this without sanding or replacing the keyboard bezel?

>>61495589
price is not the thing, X131e is just a filmsy shitpad

>>61496087
>no return of 7 row of keys
Source? It's clearly a 7 row on david hill's own post:
http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/retro-thinkpad-its-alive

>ultrabay
Oh look who's stuck in the stone age with their stack of shitty CDs. Pointless and retarded.

>full size m.2 slot thats PCIE based
New thinkpads have them.

>m.2 to msata adapter
Pointless and retarded.

>ExpressCard slot.
Pointless and retarded.

>battery slice
No

>niche market
""""Your""" imaginary garbage market has nothing to do with the actual retro niche market.

Curious if there are trusted stores/aftermarket brands for ThinkPad batteries. I have a 2.5ish year old x240 and battery life is getting pretty dismal.

>>61482314
Please someone spoon feed me a thinkpad with classic keyboard, SSD , and decent processing/ram that would be perfect for massive amounts of tabs and documentation please link righ to eBay

Budget is 350

>>61496700
>Please someone spoon feed me a thinkpad
How about no
>massive amounts of tabs
The Great Suspender

>>61496700
T420/t430/t530/t520/w520/w530.

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A

>>61497385
Forgot post, are both bottoms of the X220 compatabile? I have the version with the two vertical rubber feet on top/

>>61497385
this is a tablet base

Hear my dilemma /tpg/ -
I have an M6400, and I've wanted to upgrade to a newer model, such as the m4800. Should I upgrade the m6400 to the Qx9300 and upgrade the video card now, prolonging the wait to upgrade, or should I skip these upgrades and save up for a newer laptop instead?
This won't be for work or anything, so it's not a time-sensitive issue

>>61497499
Thanks m8, would have bought and not have known.

Will buying myself a thinkpad bring me happiness in life

So my first Thinkpad (X260) finally came here, I ordered it a month ago on the outlet for $600 (8gb ram, 256 gb SSD, i5-6200U), I live in a 3rd world country so it took this long for the proxy service to get it here and get it through customs. It's a nice laptop, probably the best I've owned because I've only owned trash.

>>61497547
only temporarily

How often do the Thinkpads on Ebay have their BIOS' locked or Computrace enabled? Im getting kinda tired of going through pages that have nice prices but the seller never responding to questions.

>>61498027
Of the five Thinkpads I've bought, only one has had the BIOS locked. Fortunately the one locked I'm installing Libreboot onto so it's no big deal. Just ask the seller first. If they don't respond, don't bother. Not worth the headache.

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>waiting all week for Thinkpad to arrive
>check ebay assuming it will be here tomorrow
>see this

>>61497547
For a while

>>61492698
I just got similar specs for $150, but it also takes trawling eBay for like a fucking month.

>>61494367
What the fuck is up with that spacebar?

X220 keyboard looks like a clunky pile of shit for neckbeard weebs.

what's the best thermal paste? how much should be applied for optimal performance?

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>>61499498
about this much

>>61499498
>how much should be applied for optimal performance?

the minimal required

>>61499498
Gelid gc extreme for me.

Not too much, not too little. Follow what the package says.

But really, it doesn't make much of a difference, most thermal pastes are close enough in terms not temperature.

>>61499442
Are your thumbs 4 inch thick, you fat fuck?
The JP layout is sensible and you can map the extra modifier keys to whatever you want.
Read:
http://xahlee.info/kbd/tiny_space_bar_japanese_keyboard.html

>>61498186
is Computrace never really an issue?

>>61482565

I got my x220 tablet for $68, anon you over paid for yours.

Fuck I really want a tablet laptop for note taking, but they seem to be bulkier and with shit battery life.

>>61500105
>note taking
pen and paper really are the best
tablets are all bullshit unless you draw professionally or as a hobby. buy one and you'll find yourself going back to ol' pen and paper in no time.

>>61486256
true this. we have old thinkpads at work and whenever shit acts up that i can't figure out i just swap and add memory, switch the hdd for an ssd and it runs like a fuckin beast.

>>61484538
literally got a used of these for 142 the other day, feelsgoodman

>>61497547
Using mine did
I don't know how I feel about replacing it but i have a t510 with eGPU and its great right now but I know I will need more power and something more portable later so I'll go for a T420s with eGPU
I definitely wont sell it.

>>61500105
apparently notetaking is better regardless because you retain the information better.
Just come up with shorthand as you go and learn cursive and you're all set also drawing pictures to go along with notes is an option where it just isn't on a laptop.

I reached a pinnacle of boredom tonight.
I have one of those 16GB ddr3 modules that Intelligent Memory made a while back, and I true it in my x220 for fun.

Paired with a 4gb stick in either slot, it posted, showed only 4gb ram

By itself in either slot, no post. No error, blinking, anything. Looks like a normal post but the screen never comes up.

As expected but I tried in hopes.

>>61482314
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5602853,-95.0853914,3a,75y,299.08h,68.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szChzPIAn4RIAAAQvxgbyEg!2e0!7i10000!8i5000

tfw Thinkpads in space

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I can get this half x201 for 60$, is it fixeable? Does it look bad? Is it worth?

>>61501112
Lol no

>>61501112
which cuckland is this layout for?

>>61501058
>16GB ddr3 modules
Why even? What kind of laptop accepted those?

>>61501481
Mexican

>>61501112
just get one that needs a hdd and a caddy. its going to cheaper, easier and will work

When will we see Ryzen based thinkpads?

>>61502003
tard

Looking at thinkpads, what is IPS touch? Should i get a laptop with IPS, anti-glare, non-touch, or a laptop with just IPS touch?

>>61502010
grow up pajeet, we're living in 2017. We don't need any core2duos. Real men need more power, have you ever worked with offload compiling, while having to index through a big datatable to control that the hashes corresponds to the proper input while compiling modules that will be implemented for other stations?
I think not, go on and have fun with your puny core2duo thinkpad and enjoy ricing it with arch and post here daily.

Hey how do you get into the bios of an ancient Thinkpad? I get this teal screen with a flappy duck cursor, it's wild, but nothing like a traditional BIOS.

>>61495731
whats better than duckduck?

>>61502003
Hopefully never.

>>61502050
Use a desktop then fag.

>>61502084
Startle, searx or yandex.

>>61502127
Meant, startpage. Not startle.

>>61502127
I already do but I need sometimes to carry my work with me, so having a laptop is good for me.
I had a W520 but then switched up to a P70 but it's really bulky and heats too fast while doing workload.

>>61502156
P70 is bigger than a W520 anon.

>>61502171
Which is why I said it's really bulky. I only bought it because I need this while going to client to client

I've wanted a Thinkpad for ages but have no idea which one to get. I want it for general internet browsing, college work and to use as a Mac VM when I need to. I want it to last a good few years staying pretty fast the whole time and I'm okay with upgrading parts later down the line if I have to. I have been lurking here ages but can't get my head around what you guys are always talking about. My budget is between £250 and £300, some buying help would be appreciated.

>>61502189
Why do you need it? Can't you offload the heavy stuff to a big server?

>>61502322
X220/230 T420/430
X220 and T420 can also run OSX natively if that's what you want. From experience OSX as a guest is piss poor. I/O constantly stays at full load for some reason.

>>61502357
I like the x220 but I don't like the touchpad on it. Is there any the same shape as it with the better touchpad?
I might run OSX natively, I haven't made up my mind yet.

>>61502379
No, touchpad is shit on thinkpad, use the track point.

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>>61502357
Any good?

>>61502379
Newer X series have improved trackpads but cheap ones are hard to come by. Personally I prefer the nub at all times.
>>61502444
Steep

>>61502444
Too much, lurk eBay, or local selling sites and grab something, then put more ram and a ssd.

>>61502514
I'll learn to love the track point.
>>61502515
Thanks, I almost just said fuck it and bought it. I'll check other sites now.

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Anyone have experience replacing keys or scissor switches?

While cleaning my x220 keyboard I fucked up the switch for the left shift key. As you can see, on one side, the prong is missing and on the other it's barely hanging. The key still works but it's incredibly bouncy.

Kinda need the left shift for general typing and wanna jew my way out of this w/out having to buying a new keyboard.

>>61502597
Just fold it back and reinstall. I have a Tab key (Alps) and a Z key (non-Alps) missing one post just like that. They fall off every once in a while but still type fine so I never bothered to replace the keyboards. YMMV

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Hey guys, look what I found in a garbage dump today! She boots fine, and runs pretty well too.

>>61502738
hella noice

who /16gb ram x1 carbon/ here

how can ramlets even begin to compete??

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>>61502814
>soldered single channel

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>>61502814
>"""""""""16gb"""""""""""
how can ramlets even begin to compete??

Does the T420s still hold up today?

>lenovo thinkpad with dell's xps screen
Why do we live in the worst timeline?

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Any of you lads use a X300?

How is it?

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Is this price realistic? The specs don't seem good enough for the price.

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>W530
>i7 3720qm / 8gb ram / 1080p screen / 240gb ssd / 1tb hdd / quadro NVS5400m
Good price for €665?

>>61503710
Too expensive.

>>61503608
Too cheap.

>>61503710
If the screen is IPS and the condition is mint including the temps it may be considered, but there are cheaper options with similar performance. I personally wouldn't give this much money for it.

We had a bunch of T420s' with i7 and Quadro cards at work, the luckiest ones were around 80-90°C with moderate load, the rest throttled like fuck while blowing hot air like a hairdryer even after replacing the thermal compound.

>>61503746
know of any EU sellers that would have better prices?
>>61503794
no information on whether the screen is IPS

My thinkpad heat up to 80°c
Do I have to change the thermal paste?

>>61502738
Nice m8

>>61499567
disgusting fucking shit.
Clean this up properly you savage ape

>>61499962
Look up what computrace is and you'll know it's a big issue if you're running a device you can't install libreboot or coreboot on. For me it has yet to become an issue, but that's only in my circumstances for one device.

>>61500005
I didn't pay for it! :^)

>>61503902
I just changed the thermal paste and it's still heating up to 60°c. Weird

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Hey I'm trying to have a dual external screen setup, X220's monitor being the source and the two others being extended displays.

As the two external screens accept VGA inputs, I thought pic related would be enough but it doesn't work. I can only duplicate source screen but not extend the desktop so I can enjoy having 3 distincts screens.

Is duplicating the VGA's signal a probem here? I've noticed the X220 also has a DisplayPorts. Should I use DP+VGA instead? If that's the case it sucks because the two external screens don't accept DisplayPort but only DVI...

Hey, I'm gonna start CS soon and I need a laptop. I was thinking about this, but I don't know what model is the best option for me. I will be doing a lot of virtualization. I was looking for something like a 15 inch screen, i5-i7 (dual-quad core)... I don't need an SSD, but I need at least 1TB of space. What do you suggest? I have a budget of 600€ (I live in Spain so I need an special layout)

>>61503758
So should i get it?

What's a decent price for a used T460?
>i5 or i7
>1080p fullhd non-touch
>at least 8Gb RAM

>>61504341
What thinkpad? From what I've seen in this thread the x220 is awful at cooling without cutting your own breathing holes.

How do I get a retro thinkpad? I'm poor but I know it's probably the last time I'll ever have the chance to get a good laptop. maybe it won't even fall in price used cause it's probably not gonna get picked up by all the megacorps that usually buy lenovo.

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Budget: £200
Location: UK
Size: Any
Performance: Programming, light rendering and classic games
Other: Want the thinkpad to VERY customizable (CPU, RAM, HDD, GPU)

>>61504682
X250
40-50°c on normal use
Peak at 60 for -can't tell why-

>>61504805
lol

>>61505221
>lol
that's not very productive.

>>61504805
Whenever they release it. Given the crowd appeal, it'll probably be limited but not nearly as limited as the 20th anniversary X1 or Reserve Edition

>>61504345
In its usual form, only 2 active displays at once are supported. But you can use the DP and VGA yes, just the laptop's screen will be off

As for that VGA thing, there's only 1 VGA signal so of course it's going to duplicate

>>61505292
>Whenever they release it
did you miss the "I'm poor" part of my conundrum?

>>61497126
Is w530 refurbished with reportedly good battery,screen,and charger good deal for 600 ?

>>61505422
not at all

I've got an x230i with the i3-3110M. Aside from putting in an SSD, is there much I can do about upgrading it? IPS panel?

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ThinkPad T430 (i5, 6GB, 320GB) for $180. Looks pretty good but im concerned about two things.

Whats this round thing to the right of the trackpad? Is it just a reflection or a laptop part pushing towards the case?

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>>61505787
And the second concern is pic related. What could've been the cause of this space between case parts above the usb ports? Easy fix?

>>61505787
looks like a sticker mark

>>61505809

the previous owner didn't clip it back down properly

>>61501504
Intel broadwell and skylake ULV series only I think.

>>61505292
>But you can use the DP and VGA yes, just the laptop's screen will be off

Do you mean there's no way to have a 3 displays setup with a X220? Why is that? The Intel graphics card is too weak?

I was hoping that I could do 1 external VGA + 1 external DP, yet still use my laptop's screen.

>>61506255
I tried this with my x201. Apparently the onboard graphics are just incapable of outputting to more than two diaplays. Even attempting to use the main display + the two extra outputs fails.

>>61506255
yes the Intel HD 3000 can only do 2 monitors

>>61505666
is that u anon? that's a cool dress.

>>61506402
>>61506368
Ok thanks guys. I cancelled the DisplayPort cable I had just ordered.

>>61506431
why? you should use displayport over vga

>>61506450
The monitors I use at the office only take VGA or DVI. I had ordered a DisplayPort-to-DVI cable but meh.

>>61502444
>two hundred and eighty nine britbong points
what the hell are you doing man?! Just grab one on eBay, theres one the same spec (albeit Windows 10) for £150. Just make sure you leave one for me though, my paycheck is coming next week

which thinkpad series has the most room for customization?

allright gents i got a question for you: is 100 usd an adequate price for a standard i5/4gb/320hdd x220 ?

>>61508173
Try to haggle down to 80, but it's fine otherwise

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Just got an absolutely cherry T420 for $100.
>i5-2520m
>4GB ddr3
>working 9 cell
>500GB WD black
>DVD drive
>brand new replace keyboard

Also bought 2x4GB ddr3-1333mhz so-dimm kit for $30

I currently have a T420 that's falling apart that I'll be swapping parts over. My i7, 1600x900 screen, etc. Did I done good?

>>61508173
yep
>>61508358
yep

don't pay more than $150 for a used thinkpad if you can help it, guys

>>61503902
As a software-level fix, I would downclock the CPU. Method depends on OS.

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i broke this while fixing the fan.
is it replaceable?
x201s

>>61508718
wrong picture but i broke that dark yellow thing that connects the right side to the motherboard.

>>61506450
>>61506368
Can't you daisy chain two monitors over dp?

>>61508866
only with displayport 1.2, which didn't come until *40 series

Anyway to buy used in Yuroop without paying such high shipping fees? Everything on Ebay ships from the states

>>61509077
Have you looked at eBay at all? Which one are you after?

>>61509077
german ebay has german sellers

>>61509174
x200

>>61509184
ill give it a look

Where are replacement keyboards sold, particularly international layouts?

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Inexperienced newfag here looking for a decent laptop for Java class. I've been reading and the T430 looks like a popular choice around here so got any good suggestions?

>>61508765
help please.

>>61503238
no doubt man
I'm looking for one myself

>>61482438
I have T400 right here. Doing ok for everything except games.
Check for 1440x900 resolution (there is backlit models available). Also check the batteries and ask if alll screws are present and in place.
You will probably want to stay with windows as it seems to outperform linux. Trackpoint scrolling sucks though.

>>61509489
you can change the way the trackpoint scrolls through some settings in their manager I think
but the only problem is then it can't be used as a middle click button. So to get around that I just used some script to tie left and right click simultaneously as a middle click

>>61509213
ya a T430 would be plenty powerful enough, if you want something smaller then X230, if you want bigger then T530. All from the same generation and have about the same specs.

Also suggested (required) is getting an SSD and sticking it into whatever you end up with.

allright, just bought a x220 for 90$, but theres a catch. It has no psu, so my question to you fellas is: could you recommend cheapest possible psu that will not explode or throttle the cpu ?

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I'm considering buying this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-14-Laptop-Core-i5-2-6GHz-4GB-128GB-SSD-Win-7-Pro-DVDRW-/162597151636?hash=item25db8ba394:g:wf8AAOSwGkZZc3ub

It's got a 1366 X 786 resolution and integrated graphics. I want to upgrade the screen to IPS. What resolution should I go for? Do you think 1920x1080 is out of the question without a dedicated gpu?
>tfw getting stressed out browsing the ebay-jew

>>61505620
You could swap in an x220 keyboard if you wished. Upgrade RAM.

>>61510489
T440 sucks. Go for t430 or t450/460 if you want something newer.

>>61510745
Well, it's a t440p if that changes anything. I don't intend to use it for anything very intensive, just shitposting and watching movies maybe. What's so bad about it? Any higher up is financially hard to do for me.

I've got a damaged W510. Screen flickers crazy, on-board DisplayPort not working,however theones on the docking station are working fine.
Any ideas how to check where is my W510 failing? The IPS panel just works fine with outer laptops.

>>61482314
New thread:

>>61511149

>>61511149

>>61511149

>>61505809
you just press down hard on the plastic bit and the little tabs snap back into place. Worst case scenario, the palm rest and keyboard bezel are the cheapest parts to replace