/wt/ watch thread

>>61453594
Pan Am Air King ... nice choice

Is 2,500 for a new speedmaster with leather strap a good price?

>>61453676
Its so good its unbelievable.. meaning i wouldn't trust it.

>>61453676
http://www.chrono24.com/omega/speedmaster--mod74.htm?dosearch=true&query=omega+speedmaster

bets triple sensor watch?

>>61453735
I checked that site, but it's still kinda hard to get my bearings price-wise since I don't know what's legit and what's not.

So is this a really good price?

>>61453710
It seems legit, my brother is in the town where it's being sold so I'd buy it through him.
Is there an easy way to verify how legit it is?

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comments on the Seiko SNKN85K1 21 jewels automatic? local Rolex dealer is selling at $142, thinking of getting my first proper inexpensive automatic.

>>61454145
No save a little more and buy something mid range. Trust me.

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>>61454145
>Seiko SNKN85K1

>>61454145
>>61454203
Plus you can get Seiko 5's for like $60. The guy is ripping you off either way.

>>61454145
Its hideous

But what about dainiai sekosha

>>61454203
can you recommend a decent mid range automatic watch?

>>61454203
Eh, this is pretty shitty advice. Even if you are saving up for a nicer watch, a Seiko 5 won't set you back very far. It is better to wear a cheap watch while saving, getting used to mechanicals and wearing a watch, than to go without one at all for however many years.

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>>61454654
>Eh, this is pretty shitty advice. Even if you are saving up for a nicer watch, a Seiko 5 won't set you back very far. It is better to wear a cheap watch while saving, getting used to mechanicals and wearing a watch, than to go without one at all for however many years.

People start collecting shitters though and end up spending as much money on their dogshit collection as it would cost to get a nice Tudor or Air-King or something.

Most of the really low end mechanicals are borderline useless as timekeepers and vary by like 30 seconds a day. Unless he just doesn't care he's going to be irritated by how off it is constantly.

Save up and get something good.

>inb4 autistic screeching

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>>61454430

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>>61454430
>>61454727
>>61454700

>>61454700
That chart needs to be updated

Also calling all eta/sellita/seagul/seiko based watches in between 100 and 500 dollars dogshit but oreints/seikos not dogshit is retarded.

Either they are all dogshit or none are dogshit.

approved brands
Breitling
lol


entry level approved brands citizen
jesus christ

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>>61454754

>>61454700
>People start collecting shitters though and end up spending as much money on their dogshit collection as it would cost to get a nice Tudor or Air-King or something.
People also get a shitter and then save for a nicer piece. Sounds like you are the generalizing, autistically screaching one. Also, why the fuck would you suggest an Air-King?

>Most of the really low end mechanicals are borderline useless as timekeepers and vary by like 30 seconds a day. Unless he just doesn't care he's going to be irritated by how off it is constantly.
Maybe 30 sec if you get a shitty one. After a couple days it can be adjusted anyway, and as long as it runs fast or you set is ahead, you will never be late.

That chart is also pretty shit, but this is well-known.

>>61454784
Hello newfriend, just FYI that whole chart is bait posted by one of the resident /wt/ shitposters who literally hang out on /wt/ thread after thread for the sole purposes of shitting up as much as humanly possible.

Yes, there are people who actually spend their time that way.

Yes, I know that's the most pathetic thing of all time.

>>61454816
This is not ture,ignore this guy he is Archie tier elitist.

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>>61454895
>This is not ture,ignore this guy he is Archie tier elitist.
Exhibit A.

>>61454912
Lmao right hahahah XXDD

what's a 1:1 premium? is it another term for knock off?

>>61454754
>>61454784
>>61454810
>>61454816
>>61454895
>>61454918

You guys get really asspained about anyone suggesting that it might be better to just save up.

Even if you think cheap watches are great, why do you care if someone expresses that they feel that they aren't?

>>61454895
holy fuk . why?

>>61455020
you quoted me but i was just commenting on why that troll chart was wrong. I don't think people should buy shitters.

>>61455021
Not everyone can drop 50K on a watch,and second and third world tier paychecks are a real thing.

>You were warned. You must first view this warning to post again.
thanks mods

>>61455044
no i meant why are you wasting your time shitposting?

>>61455050
but i wasnt

>>61454654
I mean that in the sense of at least having a watch that fucking handwinds and hacks.

>>61455140
yeah the 7s26 is really not acceptable.

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I love the dial textures Seiko was pumping out in the 70's. Wish I had a better camera. This is the only quartz I still own.

>>61454700
I totally agree with your advice, but let's not exaggerate. Your typical Seiko 5 with a 7s26 will not be off by more than 1 minute per week.

Seikos in general tend to outperform the listed specs consistently.

Now a fucking vostok will be off by 30 secs to a minute per day.

>>61453594
what's the purpose of wearing watches in 2017?
I prefer to buy sunglasses and bracelets

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>>61455222
I took a shot with flash, shows off the texture a bit better.

>>61455277
To quickly ascertain the time, the same reason watches have been worn on the wrist since WWI.

Also,
>bracelets
Kill yourself.

>>61455299
you've to live in niggerland to not find a quick way to ascertain the time
also, I'm able to guess time at near 5min anytime I want

>>61455363
Good for you faggot, I wear a watch.

>>61455277
gtfo

>>61455291
>>61455222
literally no one gives a fuck about your nip shit quartz watch .. maybe when the other seiko fags show up from their morning cuck ritual they will tell you how beautiful it is.

>>61455477
>stop liking what I don't like
Consider suicide.

>>61455222
Nice penis quartz. Ignore the resident shitposters.

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>>61455477
:^)

>>61455602
That's a great dial.

>>61455291
Hard to tell from the pictures, but does the date wheel texture match the watch face?

>>61455626
It is, though I'm planning on selling that watched eventually as I don't wear it enough.

>>61455635
The day and date wheel both have different textures from the dial, and from each other. The date is slightly darker, and brushed in the opposite direction from the day.

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>>61455602
what do you think about this?

>>61455665
If you are going to get a speedmaster there are better options. And if you are going to get a meteorite dial get something like a dress watch with a clean simple design.

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>>61454145
My first watch was an snk809 then I got this (Seiko 6n42-00e0) on a whim for $40 to see if I liked a bracelet because I remember as a kid wearing an unsized bracelet that I didn't like them as much as the leather straps. Turns out I really liked this watch and now I am buying a sarx033 next month. Point is get cheap garbage to get a sense of your taste and what works for you, then get something that you know you will like and works with your budget.

Buying something just because I'm looks nice online plus the groupthink factor of online communities is a great way to set yourself up for disappointment.

>>61456068
Sorry I'm=it

On mobile obviously to take that pic.

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Alright, I subjected this old fucker to every kind of non-destructive and semi-destructive water resistance test I could think of. Final test was the dark, forbidden rite of warm water leak checking (pictured), which is especially risky on a compressor watch. Either way I look at it this old comrade is waterproof to at least 50 meters, and ready for snorkeling.

>>61456068
My condolences.

>>61456087
You should have replaced the seals and pressure tested it sans movement.

>>61456087
https://meranom.com/en/amphibian-classic/spare-parts/vostok-watch-rubber-seals-set-to-vostok-amphibian-watch.html

>>61456068
>Point is get cheap garbage to get a sense of your taste and what works for you, then get something that you know you will like and works with your budget.
>
>Buying something just because I'm looks nice online plus the groupthink factor of online communities is a great way to set yourself up for disappointment.
so why do you buy cheap garbage seikos that weebos like again?

Is the Speedmaster Pro cliché?

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>>61456118
>>61456143
Already done all that. I did an air pressure test with a certified tester (pic of the same model) several times at 0.5, 1, 3 and 5bar.

This was just the final test. I do have a new Amphibia too, but I took that apart for servicing, despite it being only 3 years old instead of 10 (I opened it up a lot before for modding).

>>61456245
no

>>61456265
Or yes?

>>61456254
ah my bad didn't know the whole story. How do you have access to that tester? Thanks for posting and clarifying btw; Actual watch modding/testing is the most interesting thing to happen in these threads.

>>61456198
My dad fixed ac units for a living and wore Seiko all his life. Just because it's popular here to doesn't mean I know all I have learned from you guys.

Although I do own 8 thinkpads..

>>61456292
I work as a watch repairer/batterynigger at a jewery store, the machine belongs to my colleague. I already have like 75-80% of all the tools a basic mediocre watchmaker will need at least once in a life, but WR-testers are expensive as shit. I also built a basic software-defined timegrapher hooked up to my PC.

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>>61456306
He doesn't know James Bond wore a Seiko.

>>61456364
>actually wearing Shitko

Please stop hating on Seiko.

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>>61456390
Swiss watch bubble can't burst soon enough..

>yfw I will be able to buy a Rolex for $300

>>61456478
Dont worry I was just shitposting,my young brother calls it Shitko for real though.

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>>61456358
how did you do it ? Sort of like this?

I have almost no tools.
I have this in pic. brass tweezers, steel tweezers, precision screwdrivers, hand remover, hand press, movement holder, a few loups,caseback tools, and a cheap crystal press.

I have no peg wood, no oilers, no rodico, no jewel press... etc

>>61456364
He doesn't know that James bond is a fictional character from a series of novels. In said novels the actual James Bond wore Rolex watches. The 1970s movie studio money machine made roger moore wear shitko's sullying the character of James Bond.

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>>61456495
It's just a prebuilt pre-amp circuit slapped into a plastic project box, with a piezo mic. Real basic shit, I just followed some guide on the Internet.

>>61456584
Yeah thats what mine is as well. You use TG 0.4.0 software?

>>61456599
Yeah, it works most of the time.

>>61456709
I have to basically shut everything down in my house and not move to get a reasonably accurate reading.

>>61456755
You're doing it wrong then, a contact mic should only pic up sound of what it's attached to (and if you don't cushion it then also what that object is resting on).

>>61456807
the contact mic is attached to the outside of the watch case resting on a soft object. If you speak loudly or play music in close proximity to the watch the case will vibrate thus transferring energy to the piezo electric substrate. My work room is right next to a large central air unit which when on will vibrate the table holding the watch and thus the piezo electric substrate.. etc.

>>61456869
That still doesn't sound right though.

>>61456902
I don't mean to be rude but do you not understand the concept of a piezo electric device? It converts mechanical force to electricity or electricity to mechanical force. If you vibrate the substrate it will produce electrical output which the amplifier will enhance. put your watch next to a speaker or on a vibrating table. the watch case will obviously have mechanical energy transferred to it.

>>61457152
don't expect mechanical watch fags to understand the basics of quartz

>>61456807
>>61456902

https://youtu.be/hsOR8GzmCzw?t=7m49s

>>61456245
Extremely

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So since we're talking ghetto ass watchmaking tools, what do you guys think of this lathe setup I have at my internship place? this Is used by a serious professional business btw.

>>61457576
All that matters is that the motor vibration is properly isolated with he belts they are using and that the chuck spins true with no almost no positional variation. The slight parallax error from the machine to eyepiece angle may not be the best but it probably doesn't matter all that much.

>>61457576
look fine,seriously.

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>>61457576
Used it today to turn a balance staff, pic related is the lower pivot. 0.0115mm tapers to 0.0085mm

>>61457647
That's crazy man. I worked in a machine shop for a few years and can't even imagine turning something that small..granted i didn't have the tools. What cutters are you using and how the hell are you measuring that?

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>>61457619
>>61457637
It does work reasonably Well, but god the sound it makes.

>>61457697
A high speed steel graver, pic related and a standard micrometer.

>>61455277
>I prefer to buy sunglasses and bracelets
please do so and post your purchases.

>>61455665
I think its fucking disgusting.

>>61455277

What's the purpose of wearing sunglasses and wearing bracelets? Just squint your eyes. No bracelet will ever look as nice as a watch.

>>61455277
What's the purpose of wearing a bracelet that doesn't tell you the time?

>>61459292
wtf i hate apple watch now

>2017
>still using watches
for what purpose

>>61459337
to fuck your mother

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>>61456495
Ayy

>>61456358
Where do you buy tools from? Do you have any books and stuff to recommend for learning, or did you do a formal training? I think it would be fun to poke around in watches as a hobby.

>>61460063
ofrei,startime, amazon, ebay etc

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>>61453594
Asked opinions on this in the last thread, why do people dislike Seiko and more importantly why do they dislike two tone watches?

>>61460427
I don't dislike Seiko and I don't dislike two tone. But that watch is shit.

>>61460487
Care to elaborate?

>>61460493
>folded metal bracelet
>cheap looking
>bland uninspiring design
For a little more money you could get at least get something halfway decent. Do some more research and browsing.

>>61460427
I love seiko, two tone is shit though because either: it's fake gold and makes you look cheap, or it's real gold and you look cheap for not having an all gold watch

>>61454700

that chart is ridiculous
haute horlogerie doesn't mean anything in this context, go to baselworld and visit watch museums while you're at it at la chaux de fonds and stfu about it


>serious watch guys and people in-the-know will look at you like you're a faggot

suuuuure

also elliot rodgers drove a bmw and was batshit insane with grandeur so why would he wear a seiko

>>61460751
That's a quartz you dunce. I bet you are the recent shitposting autist who knows nothing and was ranting on about not being able to service Seikos in the last thread and got btfo.

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>>61460427
"People" don't dislike Seiko.

We've been posting all about lots of different watches for a while.

Recently someone pulled out their bait, applied it to a hook, and posted a few times about how "hurr, Seiko bad." They got some responses. Others, seeing the responses decided to join in on the "fun" and since then we've been having threads with Seiko being good or bad is a constant theme and we're attracting a certain kind of person.

>>61460793
no i just mistook that for a standard seiko 5 looked it up and deleted the post within a minute of posting it. Everything else i said was still true and i didn't say a single negative thing about seiko. Thanks for being an asshole though.

>>61460874
Seiko is getting so much hate because half of you Seiko collectors are massive faggots. I look at watches and say oh that watch is sort of interesting .. or that other watch is interesting. then you faggots come around talking about how all seikos are amazing cause their illustrious history and their various factories in the 60s and 70s and how there are two different vintage seikos and how amazing the finishing is and blah blah blah blah... the sarb 033 is finishined better then omegas swatch is bad wah wah wah wah ... seiko is better than rolex but i post a picture of my rolex for legitimacy whenever arguing about seiko. blah blah blah.

I don't even dislike seiko but you seiko fags are just fucking annoying.

>>61460999
You know that is literally one autist you are talking about? And that faggot is just as bad with his whole "muh pre Swatch Omega" ranting. Most people here seem to like Seiko just for what it is. A decent watch at a decent price.

>>61461048

pre-swatch omega kek

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Alpinist

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About to drop 3.5k on this thing. Am I destined for regret?

>>61461616
It looks kinda derivative, a cross between a Rolex day date and a vintage Seamaster.
Also, that date is pretty far from the dial edge, which means that the movement is a lot smaller than the case size suggests.

But I have to say it's definitely a pretty nice-looking watch.

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>>61460999
>>61461048
Your tears are DELICIOUS :^)

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Is there a Seiko 5 model , or something similar priced, like this that has the hours on the outer rim? I really like this snk809 or even the snk807 but I hate the minutes on the outside like that

>>61461979
Yes.

http://www.watchsleuth.com/seiko5finder/search/?HM%5B%5D=Arabic+Numerals

Lots of them.

Nineball i see you're here. Tell me about your habring

>>61462046
>http://www.watchsleuth.com/seiko5finder/search/?HM%5B%5D=Arabic+Numerals

Thanks
I'm thinking about getting my first watch in many years

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>>61462046
Well i think I'll get this one
I'm not asking anyone's opinion on it because it will be a shit opinion
I'll also be going to a local jeweler for it

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>>61461979
Citizen BM8180-03E

>>61462175
That's a nice one too

>>61462186
That's quartz

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>>61462238
quartz is saner in that price-range than shitty non-hacking, non-winding automatic

>>61461616
For a Breitling it actually looks quite nice. If you're going to spend that much though always try it on IRL first.

>>61462323
That was not an opinion comment, i was making sure they knew.

>>61462495
Jessica

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>>61461767
Yeah I really like the feature mix of the two classic designs. It's a pretty new model for Breitling I think and I really just like the design, more than the Rolex Daydate. Also it costs a fraction of a new Rolex DD and doesn't get dwarfed by my wrist (it's a 43mm watch, wears a bit smaller than that tho and my wrists are 8 inches).
Haven't thought about the date placement yet but you're right, the movement is 29 mm in diameter, classic ETA 2834-2 with some Breitling goodies.

>>61462441
I did already, it's really nice. The only thing I miss a bit is a display back but I can live with that. It's gonna be my daily office watch that's just rugged enough in looks and ability to not make me look like a lawyer.
Maybe I'll check for other watches with that movement but so far I havent found any that I like that much.
(pic unrelated)

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>>61461616
>dropping 3.5 kilobucks on a fucking breitling
What did he mean by this?

>>61462793
Any alternatives? inb4 Seiko, also see >>61462758


btw has this been discussed already?
https://www.salonqp.com/analysis/start-new-movement-breitling-tudor-teamed/

hey autists

what Speedmasters are /wt/ approved?

i like having the date on a watch, but the toughness of the classic Professionals is also sexy.

>>61462849
Cal 321, 861/1861, and 1045

>>61455277

because it's a status symbol, and non-smart watches are the only timekeeping devices allowed where i work due to security concerns.

>>61462758
>3.5 grand for a fucking ETA and it's not even chronometer grade
>43mm clusterfuck
This is why Breitling sucks. Get a fucking Tudor or a used Rolex or something, or at least an Omega would be more respectable. Your wrist is not so enormous that a huge dress watch won't look ridiculous.

>>61462957

what's wrong with the 9300?

>>61462849
Speedmaster Professionals are pretty nice in my opinion, it's too bad all the dogshit special editions and other variants kind of drag it down. I used to complain about date windows getting slapped on every single watch, but now that I'm wearing a non-date watch every day I keep finding myself instinctively checking my wrist for the date and not finding it.

>>61462849
31130423001005

>>61463053
I would love that movement despite the fact that one guy calls them cuckaxials .. only problem is the watch its in is 44.5mm by 16mm thick......

>>61463057

yeah, i have a Sub 14060 and having to remember what the date actually is, is the one thing i don't like about using it. i still wear it and deal, but it's slightly annoying.

>>61463101

fortunately giant watches are de riguer at work.

>>61463053
To get it out of the way: yes, the coaxial escapement makes service more critical and more expensive.

The sixty hour power reserve is certainly nice, as is the column wheel, but I don't care for the dimensions, price (2x+ the price of an 1861), or altered subdial layout.

>>61463116
>Sub 14060
It looks so much better without the date and cyclops.

>>61462168

You are paying more than double the price just to have the hours on the outside. A local jeweler will also be more than that price.

>>61463237

it really does.

my daily driver is a GMT Master II, but the Sub is probably my favorite.

>>61463265
>GMT Master II
if you don't mind me asking... what color bezel do you have?

>>61463321

black and blue

>>61463334
thank god. I prefer the all black but that would have been too similar to your sub.. blue is nice.. red is hard to wear.. and look at..

>>61463355
I mean blue and red btw. the other combos are all ok.

>>61463369
>>61463355

eh... if you're going for the classic ones, you gotta go for a pepsi or coke bezel.

can someone post that watch brand tier chart?

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>>61463469

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>>61453594
How tacky would it be to wear an unbranded Orange OP? I'm thinking about building one with different hands (found some nice ones with an orange hour hand).

Do Rolex ever do display casebacks or are they just embarrassed about their movements?

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>>61463933
Rarely.

>>61463933
Muh solid gold tool watch aesthetic though.

>>61463953

and none recently

>>61463933
why would you want anything other than an oyster case?

>>61463953
What model is that?

>>61464001
I was just curious. >>61463953 may be the first one I've ever seen on a Rolex.

>>61464002
Cellini prince 5440/8.

what is this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parnis-40mm-Black-Dial-Ceramic-Rotating-Bezel-Sapphire-Glass-Automatic-Watch/201462426236?rt=nc&_soffid=5032739604&_soffType=OrderSubTotalOffer&_trksid=p5731.m3795

>>61464082
A chink submariner "homage".

>>61462832

Hodinkee's reviewing the Tudor here.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tudor-black-bay-chronograph-review

>>61464114
>hodinkee
>review
top kek

>>61464093
ceramic bezel, saphire crystal, and waterproof. What movement is in that?

>>61464141
Probably some chink copy of an ETA movement.

>>61464141
nvm its a miyota.

>>61464114
>14.9mm

THICC

>>61464141
I think some have miyotas. That one lists just a Japanese movement though, so it may be some off-brand shit. Parnis is really hit-or miss because it isn't a brand, so much as some branding that a lot of manufacturers slap onto shit. QC is hit or miss. I would stay away from eBay for purchasing one. There is a thread on WUS discuss parnis watches and the more reputable sellers, I'd suggest checking it out if you want to buy one. I thought about getting one but ended up buying Tisell instead.

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Where should I get this thing serviced? I used Govberg for my Constellation and I thought they were a rip-off so I'm looking for someone else. Omega wants like $1000, fuck that. It should be a pretty simple service I would hope, there's nothing wrong with it and it runs well. It's a monocoque case, but I assume that shouldn't be a big deal for a good watchmaker.

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>>61464229
Texas

Anyone know a good place to get a vintage Seiko services in the Midwest US? There was apparently a great place in Missouri that recently closed, but apart from that all I have found is a bunch of places specialising in Elgin and Hamilton servicing.

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I just set the gear train with its bridge in one try this is a miracle

>>61464114
Ugh it looks like buttered garbage, what retard designed this shit.

>>61465128
good job

>>61460874
>>61462074
Fuck off ninefag

>>61461979
trash. save up for something better.

Hey guys, what's your opinion on smart watches?

>>61465462
Some people like them others don't the end. B8.

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>>61465503
applauding this post

>>61465503
this. We need to generally end the bait in these threads. Some really knowledgeable watch guys .. interesting collectors,, and hobbyists all frequent wt and its ruined by incessant shitposting.

>>61464191
You should start by googling "<geographic area>" "vintage" "watchmaker" and seeing if there are any watchmakers local to you who specialize in vintage watches.

You could also ask on the vintage Omega forum for any recommendations.

>>61464375
See
>>61465902

>>61465902
Sorry, I forgot we can only talk about watchmakers who work on Daini Seikosha watches in this thread. I guess all the people in /wt/ who bought crusty old Seamasters off ebay just didn't bother servicing them?

>>61466018
That anon was giving a serious reply, faggot, that's exactly what I did to find someone to service my Omega. It got me on the right track, but I ended up just going to jewelry stores in my area and asking for recommendations before I finally found a guy who could do it himself instead of sending it to Omega for an overhaul. He wanted around $400 to service my 1967 Seamaster.

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>>61466018
Seriously, >>61466066 and >>61465902. I took my 613 to a few jewelry stores and picked one and just let them work on it. Cost $450 with a few replacement parts.

Or mail it to Al Archer.

>>61465912
Eyy fuck you man, that's how I found the place that had closed down in Missouri. The only other one I have found so far (that doesn't do exclusively Rolex or Elgin or somethign) is some guy in Kentucky, but I have to call sometime and see if he is fine with me mailing him stuff.

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anybody ever heard of this brand yet?

>>61466018
Can you try to be slightly less retarded, at least occasionally?

I can't find him one myself unless I ask him where the fuck he lives, and since this is 4chinz, I don't start by assuming people are willing to share that kind of info.

Guess what, I'm the same anon who made the same suggestion to >>61466066
>>61466100
When they both asked the same thing in these threads.

>>61466114
Are you willing to tell me what geographic areas you are in? I'll take a shot if I can find anyone, but I can't do shit unless I know where you are.

>>61466066
>mfw 95% of the reviews for watchmakers are "my Tag Heuer watch stopped working and the Tag boutique said they wanted $500 to change the battery but the people at _______ did it for $250 in just 10 minutes 10/10 would recommend again!!"
Being a watchmaker must be pretty depressing

>>61466136
Illinois.
Since so many places do work on Illinois watch Co. pieces, I said midwest in general.

>>61462323
hacking is fine I guess hand winding I would never miss

>>61466220
It's a pain when you let it wind down and you have to hold it and spin the whole watch around to get it wound back up instead of just turning the crown.

>>61466292
Just shake it three or 4 times times, set, and wear it. It's actually faster than hand winding to get it moving again.

>>61466199
I'd consider giving this guy a shout and seeing if he does vintage Seikos

http://watchdoctorinc.com/

He seems to have good reviews and works on vintage watches:

https://www.yelp.com/biz/watch-doctor-vernon-hills

Which vintage Seiko model is it, incidentally?

>>61466169
I talked to an old watchmaker in a town I was passing through, he seemed like a pretty happy guy. He gets to work on a lot of grandfather clocks and mantle pieces, which gives him steady work at whatever pace he wants. I showed him my 1950s Sino-Soviet Vostok (and my American and Swiss mechanical watches) and he thought it was pretty cool since he'd never seen a case-back like that his entire career.

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>>61453594
Do any of you know much about vintage Aquadives, or anything about the company history? All I'm finding is shit about the modern revival of the brand name.

I'm in the market for a Omega Seamaster lookalike watch

I was looking at these two:

LONGINES HydroConquest Blue Dial Men's Watch
https://www.jomashop.com/longines-watch-l37404966.html

and

CERTINA DS Action Blue Dial Men's Quartz Watch
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c032-410-11-041-00.html

I am leaning a bit towards the Certina, I think it has a slightly nicer design and its also half the price of the other one.

Thoughts? Are these watches shit? I'll mention I don't know much about watches. My budget is $200 - $1000

>>61466371
Hrm, interesting. I actually have some family who live down there. I'm looking to service my Liner. Thanks for pointing that guy out to me.

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>>61466531
No problem. Just be aware that if you end up needing any parts for the Liner you will probably end up having to source the parts or a donor movement yourself, as I don't expect most vintage watchmakers in North America would know where to look for parts for that watch.

>>61463265

I've wanted a Pepsi GMT Master since I used to watch Magnum, P.I. as a kid. I'm hoping to someday find one at an estate sale for like $3,000 or so. I can't bring myself to pay what I could get a nice low-mileage ~6 year old used Harley for.

>>61466903
That's kinda my problem. I want a orange PO so bad, but $3000 for a watch won't be feasible for at least ten years. Will probably make my own for $250 with a seagul movement.

>>61461616
yes

>>61466131
Looks like chinkshit.

>>61466514
Longines, hands down.

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>>61453594
You are now Chairman, majority shareholder, and acting God-Emperor of the Swatch Group. How would you produce a coaxial escapement that would make Dr. Daniels proud?

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Has a challenger to the bagelmeme nautilus finally arrived?

>>61468067
>DINDU-OAK

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>>61454145
looks like a women's watch

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local pawn shop selling this beauty for $5500, should I jump on it? He said it's a hot seller and will go quick!

>>61463713
>young Archie washes his hands after a good phisting and notices his watch disappeared from his wrist so he panics at the thought of having left it in the guy's ass.jpg

>>61468067
No, because DIDUN DESIGN sounds even more nonsensical than Bagelsport.

>>61468176
I know you're trolling, but you can actually find decent deals for those on eBay. The newer ones only have Domino's markings on the bracelet.

>>61466310
pretty much I pick up my watch it starts running

>>61468176

>literally paying fifty five thousand dollar doos to advertise a fucking domino

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Does anyone know anything a out the Seagul ST2130? How compatible is it with ETA 2824-2 parts?

Are some movements certified chronometers by default or only after they are specially regulated before the watch is finished?

What are some fine watches for wristlets?
I'd like something elegant looking and at the backside I'd like to be able to see the inner mechanics of the watch, preferably leather straps.

>>61468851
Budget? Lots of folk like SARB.

>>61468889
1000€.
Also I wanted to add that it'd be my first proper watch and I intend to wear it every day.

>>61468806
The highest grade of Swiss movements is "chronometer grade", but even those all have to be adjusted and regulated to guarantee chronometer accuracy.

Even the lowest-grade movements can roll off the production line within chronometer spec by chance, but even the highest production standards can't guarantee chronometer spec without human attention.

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>>61467970
>How would you produce a coaxial escapement that would make Dr. Daniels proud?
Scrap it and go back to the traditional escapement.

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>>61468978
Dr. Daniels wants us to defeat the quartz menace.

>The advance of the quartz watch in the 1960s and 70’s was responsible for a massive shift in focus for the Swiss watch making industry which caused great concern to George Daniels . The revival of the mechanical hand-made watch by George Daniels in 1969 attracted the attention of connoisseur collectors of watches from which blossomed a new era in precision wrist watches.
>Extra complications were included in Daniels’ watches. These included tourbillons, perpetual calendar and a minute repeater mechanism which along with many more too numerous to mention, continued to enthral the connoisseur collector. George Daniels viewed horology as a continuous scientific art, with social significance and useful qualities, which continues today under the leadership of Daniels’ protégé Roger Smith.
>The decline of the mechanical watch industry was reversed and there can be no doubt that George Daniels, with his pioneering approach to watch making made the most significant contribution to horology by demonstrating that the mechanical watch can, in the long term, out perform the electronic quartz watch.

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>>61454754

>>61467970
Indeed scrap it, sillicon and high tech coatings have rendered it obsolete for quite Some time.

>>61469062
Let's be honest here, the co-axial is too impratical if you want manufacture it. Sure if it a independent house and only chunk out a few hundred of those things a year then i can see it happend.

>>61469134
>sillicon and high tech coatings
Which watchmakers best utilize this?

>>61469062
>out perform the electronic quartz watch at the price of 100 karat diamond.*
I dont like quartz either but mountain jews should really wake up.

>>61468940
Honestly, there's a decent amount of options in that price range. Do you have any other criteria? Do you want to spend as close to the limit as you can, or does price not matter so much?

>>61469152
Well, regarding the price I don't mind being cheaper, like 300€ can be fine too. As for the watch itself I'd want it to be precise with the time with no need to adjust it daily, e.g not going off by 1min daily. The design should be plain, simple and elegant, nothing too bloated with dozen timezones, simple date is enough. However it shouldn't be too simple as it can appear boring, some nice, small eye-catching details would be nice e.g outstanding pointers or a great case.

>>61469220
If you didn't said a clear caseback then i would have recommend a vintage omega. 55x/56x movements keep perfect time, their design in the 50s/60s is classic and timeless and the price tag is cheap as hell.

>>61469150
Cutting-edge tech is always expensive.
The first commercial quartz watch by Seiko was also very expensive.

Truth is that mechanical watch tech keeps improving (ceramic components, MEMS, silicon hairsprings, computer design, ...) so it's reasonable to assume that mechanical watches could in time once again replace quartz.

Batteries a shit.

>>61469281
They'll never have the same price/performance ratio though. Maybe CSACs could, but who knows.

>>61469220
Are you looking to buy new, or is used/vintage alright?

>>61469263
I'll take a look at some, maybe I'll find a great one and drop the clearcase idea.

>>61469455
Either is fine

>>61469482
In that case, like the other Anon said, Omega made some great watches in the 60's. I'd recommend taking a look at Zodiac and Grand Seiko watches from the same era.

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>>61468756
Anyone

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>>61469139
Almost all of the big houses have a watch with sillicon escapement. The sillicon pallet fork on sillicon escapewheel had Almost No wear, and when combined with a self lubricating coating wear is minimal. Panerai even has a novelty with this self lubricating coating on all bearings, no service for 40 years or so.

>>61469883
Try reading this:
http://watchguy.co.uk/comparison-sea-gull-st2130-eta-2824-2-peacock-sl3000/

- I don't need a wristwatch, I have my phone!
>wait, maybe it's more convenient after all to just have a watch on the wrist instead of having to dig up that phone every time

- Alright, so I'll just get a cheap digital watch!
>wait, this is just a piece of plastic, I don't want to have this attached to my body all day

- Alright, so i'll get a cheap analog quartz watch!
>wait, this thing has a $3 movement in a $5 case and I paid $30

- Alright, so I'll get a more expensive quartz watch!
>wait, for this price I can get a mechanical watch that doesn't have batteries and electronic shit like my fucking TV remote and literally every other fucking thing I touch

- Alright, so I'll get a budget automatic watch, like a Seiko or Oris!
>Alright, this is pretty nice
>Wait, this thing is on my wrist all day (and night) but the bezel is misaligned and it's just not very good or even consistent in its accuracy

***Alright, so I'll spend a couple grand on a watch that actually received care and attention from human hands***

If you have even just a drop of sense in you, this is the inevitable process you will follow.

>>61470260
suck my left now,I have money

>>61470307
>suck my left now

Consult several regardless yesterday

>>61469263
>>61469517
I looked at some of these but they often got golden cases which I don't like.

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>>61470307
>>61470320

>>61470415
hahah epic

>nut*

>>61470360
They have steel cases, too.

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>buys $750 Swiss automatic on the 16th
>brings it back today on the 20th
>person he bought the watch for somehow tore the stem out
>can't even put it back, the keyless work is either misaligned or broke
Some people just can't be trusted with anything, not even a supposedly robust 100m all-steel automatic. I can't even open it or I'll likely void the warranty (wholesalers hate independents poking around in their watches), it has to go back to the service center. How are people this clumsy even, not to mention brutish?

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>>61470360
There are a lot of steel cases too bud, keep looking

>>61469945
Huh not as bad as I was expecting from chinkshit. Thanks for the article!

>>61470605
Was it given to a gorilla? Seriously how the hell do you yank the stem so hard it breaks?

>>61471118
chinese?

>>61471260
By having the fine motor skill of a chimpanzee with rabies I assume. Also people literally don't know how watch crowns work anymore, let alone mechanical watch crowns.

>>61455665
A desperate attempt to repackage old designs in new wrapping. An embarrassment.

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>>61471333
Close, Vietnamese

>>61471360
Why are Asians such wristlets?

>>61469885
Also no need for adjustments. Cleaner designs. Thinner and more light weight.

Watch manufacturers should go all out for silicon movements now.

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>>61471378
That's just a stereotype.

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my hobby and part-time job is to fly small planes with passengers over my hometown

is a watch like this acceptable for such a position

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>>61471378
At least we know we wristlest and don't try to wear those 45mm+ abominations, you faggots are the reason why the watch industry is in the MUH BIG DIVE WATCH meme

>>61471428
I thought most pilot wear a GMT watches?

>>61471428
It's more than acceptable though why would your passengers care what you wear?

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>>61471428
I think It's fine, but there are watches more associated with aviation.

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>>61471447
>amerifats blame the chinks for huge watch meme
>chinks blame amerifats for it

>>61471447
>what are nouveau rich chinese

>>61467970
I don't, or at least I wouldn't make that my focus.

If I go my hands on the Swatch Group the first fucking thing I would do is start heavily investing in MEMS technology and try to move the higher end Swatch Group brands to MEMS movements ASAP to finally try and get ahead of Rolex, and then work on seriously upgrading the finishing on case/dials/hands/bracelets at those higher end brands.

I'd also have some Hamilton's and Tissot's designed that weren't deliberately uglified and throw the 2892-A2 in them to aggressively try and take back market share from micro-brands by beating them as a value proposition, and use the MEMS technology and finishing to sell the higher end brands.

>>61468806
Some movement designs have much better inherent accuracy than others, and those movements are typically much easier to adjust and regulate to chronometer spec such that they will pass chronometer testing.

A famous historical example from the 1960s is the Omega 561, where 1,000,000 movements in a row passed COSC testing.

For modern movements, a top grade ETA 2892-A2 will typically require less adjustment and regulation to pass COSC testing than most top grade ETA 2824-2's would.

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>>61471654
It's the jewish-controlled plastic movement spacer industry actually.

>>61471428
Get a Navitimer or Sinn 903

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>>61463240
>Paying for something I want
Really? I have no problem paying extra for something I think is absolutely what I prefer.
And going to a local jeweler I understand a markup. But I'm sick and tired of retail going to shit so I'm going to try and support local as much as I can. Even if it's a bit more money.

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What are you wearing today /wt/?

I want to try this watch on a NATO or perlon but I'm not a fan of swapping out bracelet and straps often. Drilled lug holes make it nicer.


Also waiting on my LM 36000 back from service and it will probably replace this guy as a daily for a couple weeks. Maybe I'll call and get the status update on how it's working today.

>>61471455
He's probably flying a Cessna 172 not a Boeing 737. I'd be impressed if he left even one time zone.

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>>61472056
About to go to bed wit my Marathon, but usually I'm wearing my Alpinist.

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>>61472056
>What are you wearing today /wt/?
Still wearing the GOAT LCD quartz since I replaced the solar battery recently.

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>>61472150
Where do you live that you can wear long sleeves in July?

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>>61472056
Same as yesterday.

>>61472150
Muh rare swatch while watching gangbang videos.
>inb4 chronology fags and weaboos jump on my dick
jej

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>>61472056
Been wearing this 9€ masterpiece for 2 months now, error < 1 sec.

>stealth wealth
>classic design
>pussy magnet

>>61472165
It's an old pic.

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>>61472056

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What's better?
>Spending $2k on a single luxury watch like a Rolex or a Grand Seiko
>Spending $2k on 5-6 cheaper watches like Seiko 5s and some Quartz movements

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>>61472387
Considering that I need beater watches, definitely that second option.

>>61472387
The single luxury watch. Quality always beats quantity.

>>61472165
Alpinist with bracelet is so GOAT

>>61472387
SHITTER it has to hurt

>>61472387
Most people buy one or two nice watches and wear them all the time. No one is going to notice someone wearing a bunch of cheap shitters.

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Good morning wt

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>>61472056

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Thoughts?

>>61472729
patrician tier,weaboos will hate you

>>61472729
Good

>>61472762
Well I'm sold, I have to get it now.

>>61472812
MUH SNOWFRAKEEUUU

>>61472729
minute hand is misaligned

>>61472729
The dial is fucking god-tier. I prefer the Geophysic line better though, I prefer screw down crowns on steel watches.

>>61472887
holy shit how is this acceptable? this is not an skx00x

>>61472729
Really good but >>61472887

>>61472911
> The dial is fucking god-tier.
Yes, yes it is.

>>61472887
>>61472971
It's just a stock photo of the prototype. I wouldn't be so autistic about it.

>>61472887
That's on whoever set the watch, not an actual problem like a misaligned hour hand.

>>61467043
parnis is actually not bad man. Go on watch u seek find a good ebay seller and get a miyota or seagull based parnis.

At what wrist girth do you count as a wristlet?

>>61472364
what in the actual fuck are you wearing.

>>61472728
nice dinner plate

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>>61473973
>what in the actual fuck are you wearing.
So many layers of memes I think the autism is terminal.

>>61472887
Have you never set the time on a watch before, or what? Obviously whoever set the watch just didn't line up the minute hand exactly with the seconds hand. Did I just get baited?

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>>61474018

>>61474021
Misaligned minute hand is a meme.

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>>61474078
>Adventure Time engraved case back

>>61472729
>Automatique

>>61474078
Is that Colt SAA on the right?

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Opinions on Orient Dual Series

>>61474603
Double shitter

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>>61474574
>>61474574

>>61474574
>>61474574

>>61474603
If I remember correctly, they use two separate movements, automatic and quartz.

>>61474634
Gross.

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>>61472056

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>>61474504
It's a modern reproduction so I don't have to feel bad about using it hard, an Uberti 1873 Single-Action Cattleman Brass in .45 Long Colt.

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>>61474381
Well, the case back *is* engraved....

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>>61474603
Kill it.

>>61472056

Are you the guy who's using his co-workers bracelet? Should have gotten the bracelet you fuck boy.

>>61472138
>wearing a watch to bed
Subhuman

>>61474603
I would ironically wear one,the color scheme or something it reminds me too much of the good times.