/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for freedom.

>>61443396
Asking again
>>61443394

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>>61443435
aview

>>61443484
How difficult would it be to make ascii stuff from scratch?

>>61443537
don't know, read the source code

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>>61443435
img2txt

>>61443396
Is stallman really mildly autistic?

I bet stallmans favorite vidya gaem is toejam and earl.

Fifth attempt at installing gentoo lads.

>>61443847
>>61443863
>>>/f/unnyjunk

>>61443869
get phuqd

>>61443869
Anarchist logo, and you fight lgbt feminist and antifa? Really?

>>61443866
You sure have a lot of free time.

>>61443869
nice meme

>>61443869
so you're basically an alt-right group that's too dumb to do their shit on their own.

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>>61443869
Get some GG Allin and learn to rock 'n roll, kid.

>>61443921
>Still falling for the gentoo takes a week to install meme

>>61443866
I'm curious. How did you fail those 4 times?

>>61443932
6 days*

>>61443869
What's the difference between coders and programmers?

>>61443921
Out of school and out of job.

Also this >>61443932
Takes like 6 hours at the most depending on your speeds.

>>61443936
Stupid small mistakes that fuck you over when you've compiled everything.

>>61443951
'Bout 3 fiddy.

>>61443932
A good Gentoo install takes a week (if you never installed it before). Ofc you can just do the vallina stuff, but then there's no point in installing Gentoo.

>>61443960
>Stupid small mistakes
like what? compiling 64 bit for 32 bit? no really, if you follow the handbook, how could you fail?

>>61443951
Coders: Python, Ruby, Go
Programmers: C, Lisp, Butterflies

>>61443869
kek, everything has no meaning anymore

>>61443869
Include me in your screenshot.

>>61443982
If you don't install stuff like xorg or whatever it will take significantly less to install

>>61443982
Shut the fuck up. We're all not autistic where we need the most accurate CFLAG for the most pointless thing.

>>61443995
I was about to install GRUB2 and then I apparently hadn't had the BIOS mounted or some shit. I honestly didn't know where I fucked up because I followed the docs as closely as possible.

The first time I attempted to install, I think I chose the wrong profile or something.

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>>61444014
Lmao I know
Shits fucked breh

>>61444075
>hadn't had the BIOS mounted
You might want to recheck whatever you learned about this.
>install gentoo
is a meme until you start reading up about every step you take. Once you're there and actually understand what you do, you start owning your system for real. And you won't fuck up ever again. I promise you that.

Fedora vs openSUSE go

>>61444158
My favorite color is green
Ergo, openSUSE

>>61444158
>Fedora
I have no idea why people even consider installing it.

>>61444196
Well that's legitimate

>>61444203
Well that's legitimate

>>61444158
openSUSE because not a facebook logo

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>>61444158

screenfetch or neofetch, go

>>61444448
The one you wrote yourself.

>>61444444

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Since i have my new GTX linux doesn't recognizes my GPU anymore and uses my onboard one instead. This is especially a problem when i use live CD's like Tails and can't install drivers. Is there anything i can do ? All i want is to change my screen resolution

>>61445243
man xrandr

>>61445292
didn't know about xrandr
thanks for helping a noob

>>61445292
"Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600"

>using Arch for 2 years now
>tfw I have yet to find a piece of software that I need that's not in the main repos or in the AUR
I'd like to contribute a bit and write some PKGBUILDs for the AUR but I have yet to come across something that's not already in there
wat do

>>61445477
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions

>>61445480
Cool, I'm using Arch aswell.

>>61445480
write a program which prevents arch from breaking

>>61443396
Hello /fglt/,
I am moving from Debian to Void Linux, and so far I'm having trouble deciding what DE to use.

I have been using XFCE, and I love it's customization, but I want to maybe try something a little new?

Cinnamon looks very nice, but I want to kind of rice a little to make things look even better.

Which is the best for ricing, XFCE or Cinnamon? I imagine with effort, I could get XFCE to look exactly like anything I can do with Cinnamon, no? What is the benefit of choosing Cinnamon over XFCE?

>>61445545
>le arch breaking meem x^)
this is really getting old
if it were at least half true, it might be still funny

>>61445545
>what is Manjaro

>>61445551
>DE
>ricing
pick 1

also why switching from a fine distro?

>>61445480
There are plenty of aur out-of-date packages that need maintenance but you most likely can't.

>>61445625
>you most likely can't
?

>>61445588
it breaks every other day, just follow the arch reddit and laugh about all the kids falling for the arch meme who cant boot their machines anymore

>>61445620
Systemd fucking sucks, that's why.
I'm so sick of dealing with this stupid fucking shit crashing and breaking everything and never working.

That and I want to try out something new. Debian is starting to feel kinda boring. Arch seems too edgy and memey, and Gentoo sounds like it'll take me a million years to install. Void looks like it's just Gentoo for people who don't have time to deal with its stupid bullshit.

And okay,
how about which is easier to get looking nice - XFCE or Cinnamon?

>>61445625
WHAT

ARCH IS BLEEDING EDGE

THERE IS NOTHING OUT OF DATE

DELET

>>61445653
How about starting with a simple wm like openbox? Comfy to rice. If you really need a DE, go xfce.

>>61445643
user incompetence (sometimes utter retardation) is not the distros fault
I've never had Arch break or do anything unexpected
I can also speak for a couple of people I know from a hackerspace irl

Whats a good solution for tranfering stuff from a GNU/Linux laptop to an Android phone? My first thoughts were ssh / ftp?

>>61445728
check the arch wiki article on mtp
I use simple-mtpfs

>>61445745
Merci.

>>61445505
>xrandr: failed to parse '1280x1024_60.00' as a mode specification
HHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

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>>61443396
Thinkpad clit mouse is super slow in xfce, mouse options don't really help, xset doesn't really, either. What's the preferred way of speeding up the pointer in xfce?

>>61445766
rtfm you dumb faggot

>>61445879

>Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

>*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Rude posters not welcome.

Anyone here set up a pci-passthrough and if so? My question is do I need to install shit from the motherboard driver disk to my guest os or do I just need to use the redhat driver stuff only?

>>61445916
>pci-passthrough
are two monitors required for this?

>>61445908
this
>>61445879
post help or go back to >>>/r/eddit

>>61445908
that pasta is a meme these threads are not friendly at all

>>61445928
Couldn't find said pasta at knowyourmeme; your argument is invalid.

>>61445908
>friendly means spoonfeeding lazy ass fucks
no

>>61445925
I use two, I believe you can do it with one though.

>>61445925
technically no, but it'd be a little inconvenient especially without a kvm switch

>>61445925
The only thing required are 2 gpus. Since most machines already have a lq onboard gpu, passthrough should work for most people.

>>61445976
>kvm switch
what's that

>>61445982
DAMN MILLENNIALS

>>61445916
if KVM your processor needs to support it as well as the motherboard

>>61445960
>lazy
he's obviously new and clever enough to read stuff people link him
he's also a friendly guy who says thanks for help
why are you such a fagget?
is this what you want new users thing about our community?
kys retard

>>61445992
Thats a different kvm

>>61445723
yeah I mean, what are these users thinking
using arch without baby sitting it 24/7?
lol n00bz!

kvm is the standard vm in kde

>>61446020
>baby sitting it 24/7
>people who've never used Arch actually believe this

So, I installed the latest Ubuntu. And I have an HD 6950. It's currently using that gallium driver. The proprietary driver says it's only compatible for Ubuntu 16.04.

Do I have to roll back and run ubuntu 16.04 to install the proprietary driver, or can I delete that flgxd(forget the letters) file and still install the driver?

>>61446020
>baby sitting it 24/7
when will this meme end

>>61446135
>proprietary driver
Why would you want to do this?

>>61446135
if it works leave it like this

>>61446193
>works
It's barely able to keep up with low end shit from 10 years ago.

>>61446173
To actually use the gpu as intended instead of pushing stuff to the cpu.

>>61446249
Well, but it's proprietary software which runs on kernel level.

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What are some cute terminal commands?

>>61445863
Install Lumina.

>>61446332

start() { sudo systemctl start $1.service; sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
stop() { sudo systemctl stop $1.service; sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
restart() { sudo systemctl restart $1.service; sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
status() { sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
enable() { sudo systemctl enable $1.service; }
disable() { sudo systemctl disable $1.service; }

# userlevel
startu() { systemctl --user start $1.service; }
stopu() { systemctl --user stop $1.service; }
restartu() { systemctl --user restart $1.service; }
enableu() { systemctl --user enable $1.service; }
disableu() { systemctl --user disable $1.service; } 
statusu() { systemctl --user status $1.service; } 

>>61445916
Your guest vm won't be using your host's motherboard, so no. You will have to install graphics drivers on the guest though.

>>61446332
Have my multi purpose onliner.
Works for lots of imageboards and dls any file in a thread into the current directory.

4chan example:

wget -nc -nd -nv -e robots=off -ER html,s.jpg -rHD i.4cdn.org <thread-url>

4plebs example:

wget -nc -nd -nv -e robots=off -ER html,s.jpg -rHD img.4plebs.org <thread-url>

You get the idea.

>>61446386
Thats what I was thinking, what redhat drivers do I need?

>>61446362
Always quote variables!

>>61446410
no need

>>61446417
Enjoy your broken and insecure scripts.

>>61446417
you should always quote variables
there is no "no need" case, since it's simply wrong

>>61446417
You should read this post: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/171347

>>61446429
>>61446448
>>61446471
I've had these scripts since systemd came out.
Nothing has "broken".Nothing is "insecure".

>>61446392
noice

>>61446332
https://0x0.st/D89.bin

>>61446362

$ start() { sudo systemctl start $1.service; sudo systemctl status $1.service; }
$ start
start: command not found: systemctl
$

Wat do?

>>61446652
lmao, gold

>>61446652
>pocket rocket ground control
heh

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>>61446688
You have to use systemd.And thats the only reason you're posting.
Congrats you dont use one of a billion programs.
Want a hug you most direly need in your life?

>>61446332
Who is this man muscle steam shovel?

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>>61446746
that's Rin (my gf), she's rly cute and your comment is disrespectful

>>61446332
Underrated manpages:
info coreutils
man 4 console_codes
man 4 random
man 5 terminfo
man 5 magic
man 7 ascii
man 7 gpl (>tfw linux is still on v2)
man 7 hier
man 7 signal

>>61446844
interesting

>>61446844
GPLv3 should be available at /usr/share/common-licenses.

less /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3

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>>61446844
Help

>>61446844
info/emacs newfriends may be confused with the keybind in info, alias info='info --vi-keys' helps here.

good thread

>>61446905
>vi
So adding another layer of abstraction

>>61446844
>>61446905

Its always a good idea to look into the info page of a program. Especially for GNU utils you find lots of more informations at info pages (for example the info page for sort).

>>61446924
Welp, since basically everything you page supports hjkl, it's not a bad idea to activate vi keys for info aswell.

>>61447011
>everything you page
Wat

>>61447021
>what is a pager

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>>61447034
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pager

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>>61446923
good post

>>61447044
delte this

>>61447059
omg this is so cute

Gentoo fag from earlier.
How do you tell if your using UEFI as apposed to BIOS?
I configuring the kernel and I'm not sure if I should enable support for UEFI.
I'm using gpt by the way.

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>>61447095
You should browse >>>/wsg/ more often.

>>61447125
install gentoo

>>61447125
Are you the idiot that used gpt in virtualbox yesterday?
Are you installing it in virtualbox again or on bare metal?

>>61447169
Virtual box
There's nothing wrong with using GPT

Does anyone have recommendations for a good RSS reader? Ideally something with a minimal featureset.

>>61447198
For minimalism: newsbeuter is neat (supports images with w3m hacks).
I personally recommend a browser addon like "brief" or something since you're going to read some articles in the browser anyway (or maybe its just me).

Is NixOS any good?

>>61447326
install GuixSD

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I have recently been trying out Manjaro. I am normally an arch user, but I just wanted to see what software is installed and how it was configured. Since most arch users like to completely customize it themselves, Manjaro might not be the best option. I found that it had all the basic software I use preinstalled, but came with tons of extra stuff, like 3 image editors or something ridiculous like that. It was a nice experience, but I will surely be moving back to arch.

>>61447466
EGGCELLENT BLOG POST BRO

>>61447466
>but came with tons of extra stuff, like 3 image editors or something ridiculous like that.
for example?

>>61447466
Last time I tried manjaro bspwm edition, I was pretty impressed desu.

>>61447197
didn't I post a link from the site yesterday saying that virtualbox uses bios by default?
>There's nothing wrong with using GPT
if you use efi or create the boot partition (on bios)
did you create it?
if not, prepare to redo the installation from scratch again

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>>61447506
Don't have it installed ATM, but here is the wiki page

>>61447531
so, youre just shitposting

>>61447548
No, I had it installed wast week

>>61447531
Speaking of bloat, look what comes with Arch:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications

>>61447466
Ever thought about a twitter account? I don't think 4chan fits your needs.

>>61447574
False.
This is a list of software,that one can install them selves after completing an install

>>61447615
wooosh

>>61447574
You're stupid.
THIS is what "comes with" Arch: https://www.archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/base/

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and this is a slackware install. 7.8gb. LOL

>>61447765
>How should we do dependency management in our package manager?
>Just install all of them.
Fucking slackware.

>>61447765
>this is actually the same as the "menu" option
why even include it then?

>>61447894
legacy support

>>61443396
So I am installing Void Linux for the first time, and this is a very basic question, but I am about 90% through the installer, and it's asking me to specify the mount point for my partition.

How do I figure that out? I'm a newfag to this.

>>61447933
What legacy software would be using the slackware installer and choosing an interactive install method?

>>61447981
Not legacy software,legacy users.

>>61447946
nvm im retarded. got it.
gee this linux shit is crazy. feel good getting it working now though.

>>61447946
>So I am installing Void Linux
found your problem

>>61447765

W E R K S
E
R
K
S

>>61448069
>>>/a/pple

>>61447765
>even slack has an installer
why is arch so autisic?

>>61448117
why would you need an installer?
it's literally just
>partition
>pacstrap
>chroot
>install grub, set root password, etc
>reboot

>>61448117
lol arch installs a billion times faster than slackware's 7.8 gb install

Could someone help me get bumblebee working in manjaro-openrc?

I have a GTX 1080 that works by itself (w/ nvidia driver) and HD 630 that also works by itself, but when I try to use the bumblebee hybrid GFX package (installed through the manjaro driver manager) the nvidia card doesn't work and all opengl support is broken as well.

$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Device 591b
           Card-2: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1080]
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.3) driver: intel
           Resolution: [email protected], [email protected]
           OpenGL: renderer: N/A version: N/A

$ pacman -Qs bumblebee
local/bumblebee-openrc 3.2.1-12
    NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux through Primus/VirtualGL
local/lib32-primus 20151110-3
    Faster OpenGL offloading for Bumblebee (32-bit)
local/primus 20151110-7
    Faster OpenGL offloading for Bumblebee

$ optirun
[ 9151.732833] [ERROR]The Bumblebee daemon has not been started yet or the socket path /var/run/bumblebee.socket was incorrect.
[ 9151.732878] [ERROR]Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running?

$ glxgears -info
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual

>>61448347
What are you trying to accomplish using bumblebee

>>61448347
>manjaro-openrc
Wow, that's some hipster shit. Also, don't use the proprietary drivers.

>>61448414
nvidias drivers are high quality

>>61448389
nvidia GPU acceleration for applications running on a display attached to the intel GPU.
although at this point I would be satisfied with both the nvidia and intel monitor outputs working simultaneously, which I can't accomplish either.

>>61448414
nouveau doesn't seem to work properly with the 10-series.

>>61448451
Why are you using both cards?
Just toss them on the nvidia card and be done with it.

>>61448482
It's a laptop, so it would be nice if the internal display (connected to intel) is working.

How do I remove or hide the title bar while keeping minimise, maximise and close buttons? Think of browsers in Windows. Currently using xfce. Total noob to linux stuff.

>>61448546
You dont

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>>61448551
So this is the power of gnu/linux

>>61448551
Please, help mate

>>61448573
>noob
You dont

The factual answer is you modify the way your wm renders the title bar

But you're a noob so the answer is no

>>61448585
/(((Friendly))) glt/

>>61448585
So I'll have to tweak my xfcem4 to render the title bar this way. Great, helped a lot. Could you tell me if I can do that with xfce?

>>61448660
I dont use xfce,look at its source code

>>61448698
Do you know a wm that can?

>>61448754
Any of them can potentiall.You would have to modify or if the wm allows you to in a config.Change how the hide function works

Is there any major distro that does not use systemd?

>>61449131
devuan
gentoo
alpine

>>61449131
Source Mage
Void
Slackware

>>61449233
we've already established that slackware is shit

>>61449249
:(

>>61449131
manjaro openrc version
>>61448414
>Wow, that's some hipster shit.
yes

>>61449309
>manjaro
>using downstream distros that have no real distinctive purpose for existence
kek

>>61449361
Why not check the feature matrix on both sites and find out?

>>61449406
>feature matrix
I dont think you know what this word means.
And again
Why dont you go look for your self

why hasn't anyone made an ubuntu without systemd?

>>61449477
Because only sane and well adjusted people work on ubuntu.

>>61449537
you mean british people?

>>61449477
Because only faggots use ubuntu.

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ssd0:BETA::Refracta
>ssd1:Corupt Debain
ssd2: lite::Win7("

"Games"

")

Accidentally rm -r all directories on my nexus7, Lots a good +8 months of notes and research. Feels good tho.

>>61449233
>major

What's a good music player for GNU/Linux?

>>61450452
There are none

>>61450452
mpv is best for audio and video.

You could also try mpd+ncmpcpp if you're feeling dangerous

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Why do people complain about "bloat" when a distro installs too many packages? It's my understanding that the only downside of having a bunch of packages installed that you don't really need is that they take up some disk space. They just sit there not doing anything or slowing anything down if you don't use them, right?

So after using Ubuntu for 3 days I uninstalled it.

It felt slower and more unresponsive than W7 in every way.

But I admit that terminal was interesting and I liked some of the software.

Did I just try the worst distro?

>>61450645
>is that they take up some disk space
No you dumb shit. They also increase cognitive load when trying to reason about the state of your system when you have fucked it up.

Does it benefit me in any way to generate an initramfs if I use a normal partition scheme?

>>61450658
Ubuntu is recommended a lot because they actually pay for marketing. Try something else that's reasonable.

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Been using Mint for nearly two years on my machine (it justwerx, other distros like Fedora didn't seem to play nice with the hardware for some reason), but Cinnamon has been shitting itself lately.

Probably going to end up switching to Debian or something for a change (and for something a bit more lightweight), but for the moment I think I need a new DE. At the moment, when I close the lid and open it back up, very often Cinnamon won't load labels for anything, (e.g. names of stuff in the start menu, wifi network names, names of files in thumbnail view, etc). For a decent while the battery monitor stopped working too, had to rely on acpi.

I know XFCE doesn't support secondary key bindings with Fn on my laptop (e.g. Fn+F8 to turn the volume down), and Mate has some screen tearing issues on it, so they're out.

Any other DE I should look into?

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I'm running Ubuntu 17.10 x86_64 (Artful Aardvark or whatever, yay for buying a fucking Ryzen CPU without realising how much of a pain running Linux it would be), and need to install Docker, except that the latest Ubuntu release of Docker is for 17.04 apparently.
So - what the hell do I do? Obviously not super confident in my Linux knowledge here.

>>61450732
Linux expects to be booted with an initramfs or initrd on desktop systems these days. You might have to jump through some hoops to boot without one.

>>61449149
Alpine is actually fantastic, I use it in docker containers and it's been flawless.

>>61450820
If it is a third party package and a .deb you might as well try it. It may be that the dependancies have not changed that much.

>>61450676
>They also increase cognitive load when trying to reason about the state of your system when you have fucked it up.

"Cancel my meetings, mom, pacman broke xorg.conf again"

>>61450676
That means absolutely nothing if you manage to break your distro for the sake of minimalism. If anything, it's worse, because you don't have the resources to fix the issue.

>>61450930
Try it, and is apt-get it and hope for the best?

>>61450976
>That means absolutely nothing
>>61450949
>waaah
Have you muppets seen how many people come into these threads and ask for help because because they have no idea what is going on with their system?

>>61450904
No. Linux is totally able to boot without initrd.

I'm in Gnome and have i3 installed, but how do I now switch to i3? There's no option in the login screen, like there was in Unity.

Is the Gnome Display Manager just shit? I feel patronized, if it just doesn't give me the option.

>>61451201
Try to put
exec i3
in your ~/.xsession

Long time Arch user, currently on KDE Neon. Looking for a stable KDE distribution with up-to-date Qt & KDE. Tumbleweed is out of the question because I play Civilization every once in a while (needing Nvidia drivers). I absolutely hate Arch, the "Arch way" and the community. So nothing Arch based.

Should I stick with Neon? Is Fedora with KDE any good?

>>61451694
openSUSE. Tumbleweed. Now.

>>61451729
Did you even read the post. I fire up Civilization once, maybe twice a week. It's a habit I haven't been able to drop yet, so I need Nvidia support.

>>61451794
openSUSE. Tumbleweed. Now--

well fine. I didn't really read the entire post, I'll be honest. And I can't help you there because I'm an inferior AMD user. However, how come tumbleweed doesn't have proper nvidia drivers?

>>61441915
>>shitty default bindings
>Tell me more, what is missing from default i3 bindings.
1. Shitty defaults and missing features are different things.
2. If you need a missing binding, I'd say a monocle mode.
>>Who are "we" and what exactly do you mean here?
>Do you know someone that never use keyboard to control its tiling wm?
You did not answer my question. Who are "we" and what exactly do you mean by that.
>>How is it simpler?
>You run one binary only that come with a default configuration.
I repeat my question.
>>all your shortcuts depend on WM.
>No. I giver window management shortcut to my wm, and everything else to xbindkeys.
So you have unnecessary keyboard daemon as part of your WM _AND_ use another one for everything else?
Why do you need the one in WM them?
>>Your argument against that?
>Useless, like a separated deamon.
How is that useless? (And how is extra keyboard daemon in WM not?)

>>61451860
Quoting the chairman, "rolling-release can't have up-to-date drivers". Every time the kernel updates the Nvidia drivers break, because there's no Nvidia repository. I could install Tumbleweed on laptop though, provided the bloat doesn't destroy my batterylife.

>>61451891
How come Arch maintainers can manage to update NVIDIA drivers but OpenSUSE devs can't?

>>61451934
Or Solus, or any other rolling-release distro ever. That's the joke here. Also, Tumbleweed's Firefox is at 52 while Ubuntu LTS has had 53 forever.

>>61450763
I'm open to suggestions since I know pretty much shit about LInux.

>>61443396
The fuck is "GNU"? Some kind of animal?
I rather use Linux get the fuck out

>>61452083
Ubuntu is great, the official (Unity) variant is just bloated and slow. Variants like Xubuntu are vastly superior.

Anyways, the most solid and smooth distro I can recommend for a Wincuck is probably Solus. It's slowly becoming the new Mint while actually doing things properly and not just duct-taping shit together.

>>61451964
Shit, you're right.

I've been looking for a distro with up to date KDE too, I tried Kubuntu, Manjaro, Neon and Tumbleweed. To my experience Neon has been giving me much more trouble than Tumbleweed. However what I notice in every single one is that I get poor graphics performance when I have compositing enabled and there's no way around it.

Well, there is. Disabling compositing. But fuck that, I want my drop shadows and KWin script support. And I got AMD but I heard that if you want decent performance on linux distros you need nvidia with proprietary drivers.

>>61452083
What was unresponsive about Ubuntu? That might have a fix depending on your hardware. I spent 2 years trying to figure out why Chromium was so terrible on linux and it was me just missing a goddamn flag.

>>61452148
Why wouldn't KWin scripts work without compositing? For me Neon has been pretty good, no problems whatsoever (have it both, on my laptop and desktop). Looking at Fedora KDE spin and Mageia at the moment. I'm using compositing and everything's really smooth.

>>61452176
I suppose because KWin is the compositor and you are essentially disabling it. I tried that actually, just to confirm my theory that scripts wouldn't work if I disabled compositing.

I suppose it depends on the hardware but basically, when I have compositing enabled (In any distro, with up to date mesa and kernel, both radeon and amdgpu drivers) any application that is in motion, like a browser smooth scrolling or a game, gets microstuttering way too frequently. I turn off compositing and the microstutter is gone completely. Disabling desktop effects has no effect and keeps doing it. Basically I'm fucked there and I wondered if using a cheap nvidia GPU for linux would be a better option.

Also it's weird because I was under the impression that Tumbleweed was pretty much up to date in general and just like you said, firefox be old.

I may also try Fedora KDE, though it sounds weird as I always heard it's the go to distribution for Gnome instead. Good luck with finding the perfect distro.

>>61451891
I haven't had nvidia drivers break my debian system in years. I guess it helps to have active maintainers.

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>>61452276
It's just the script that isn't working. I tried disabling compositing and my scripts work.

>>61452386
Wait that's weird. That's exactly your script that isn't working on my end anon. I'm doing something wrong.

>>61452421
No you aren't. I didn't think it was my script you were talking about. I'll fix it in ten (already did but I'll just confirm it doesn't break).

>>61452435
Hold up, I'm downloading it again now. I'll check if it's actually working.

>>61452458
It's not. I had to edit it a bit. At the moment the script starts when the compositor detects a shown window. I'm adding a check if compositor is enabled or not. Anyways, move the hidden .git folder to the script folder and you can just git fetch origin master && git pull for an easy update ;)

I like the look of GNOME, but everything feels cumbersome to do.
xfce looks like it'd feel good to use, but it looks so cheap and ununiform.

Do themes overhaul everything reliably or do I have to finetune some icons? I want to use xfce with a GNOME theme, but I don't want to do extra work.

>>61452480
try MATE

>>61452474
Thanks man. I thought that Kwin scripts didn't work without compositing, I guess I learned something.

>>61452130
GNU is an operating system. Linux is a kernel which GNU systems use (like NT in Windows or Xnu in macOS). It's also used in the Android system on your phone.
You know the GNU system as "Linux" because of massive shilling by people who would make less money if they called the system GNU, since GNU is very freedom oriented while Linux isnt.

>>61452506
for >>61452120

>>61452506
>by people who would make less money
or people who feel better when ignoring ethical software aspects like the open source guys

what a good program for binding hotkeys which works de indipendent?

>>61452574
xbindkeys, sxhkd

Which distro should i choose for begin?
I need stability, minimalistic and a bit user-friendly

>>61452594
ty

>>61452499
Should work without compositing now.

>>61452651
install ubunut

>>61452700
I already tried but it seems like a casual distro and Unity works a bit slowly, so I want something else to try out

My centos 7 VPS doesn't have any hardware virtualization extensions on the cpu. Is there a way to run openbsd on this server as a firewall? I was thinking of passing my internet connection to a fully featured firewall before hitting my docker contsiners.
Iptables is lacking in functionality

>>61452172
Pretty much anything (Firefox, Clementine, VLC) was really slow to launch compared to W7, Amarok being the worst contender.

Web browsing, specially scrolling wasn't smooth either.

And I had to restart the computer after launching Dropbox because the destkop froze.

>>61452130
>>61452148
I'll give Xubuntu and Solus a shot.

I honestly think I should get familiar with Linux, but I'm learning web developement on my free time after work and every single minute I spend fixing trivial shit is a minute I could be studying, so I'm considering leaving this on hold for a while.

hey /g/entoomen, babby just installed his first distro, but I can't seem to figure out how to move the dock on the left hand side in gnome to the bottom? (running manjaro gnome if it helps)

I want to install GNU/Linux but I have a problem. I'm running Windows 10 in MBR/Legacy BIOS mode and I already have 4 primary partitions and I can't delete any. What can I do?

>>61453148
find a partition manager software that can convert primary partitions into a logical partition inside an extended partition.

>>61452787
yes, with qemu but without hardware assisted virtualization. Since it will be done with software only, it will not be as fast as real hardware/hw accelerated vm but for that purpose I think it should work just fine.

>>61453130
How do I change my (stable Debian) unlocking background? Plain grey is kinda boring.

>>61445653
why not just switch to testing?

>>61443396
friendly reminder if you use debian and record disks
http://cdrtools.sourceforge.net/private/linux-dist.html

>>61445480
visit suckless.org

>>61448546
find where the xfwm4 theme folder is, i forgot, either /usr/ or /etc/ and cp the theme you want, then modify that copy, a themerc iirc

>>61449131
http://ix.io/yqr
============================
>>> ARCH WITHOUT SYSTEMD <<<
============================

1/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/
> makepkg -cirs

2/ runit 1 2 3
check either ignite, void or obarun github for boot scripts BEFORE you restart

3/ re/boot with kernel parameter

init=/usr/bin/runit-init

4/ now you can safely get rid of lib/systemd and libgudev
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/
> makepkg -cirs
done

5/ get most of these
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd
>mine for reference

pacman -Qqs nosystemd
dbus-nosystemd
libpulse-nosystemd
libutil-linux-nosystemd
mkinitcpio-nosystemd
procps-ng-nosystemd
util-linux-nosystemd
xdg-user-dirs-nosystemd
xorg-server-common-nosystemd
xorg-server-nosystemd

>troubleshooting libsystemd.so.0 error
rebuild using aur or abs disabling lib/systemd flags
>notable mentions
qt5-base mpv - both have aur pkgbuilds

>>61449477
because it would be a major effort

>>61450658
ubuntu gnome is best overall

>>61452796
>Web browsing, specially scrolling wasn't smooth either.
i noticed this too when testing ubuntu gnome, scrolling in firefox was terrible, maybe try fedora, debian or suse with gnome

>>61452148
afaik there was a kwin keyboard shortcut to disable compositing for exactly this case since kde4 or earlier

>>61453130
dash to dock extension or similar i think it maybe a setting in dconf-editor
>>61453384
settings > background or install gnome-backgrounds

>http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/skype-linux-now-lets-make-group-video-calls (don't click)
why do normies "miss" such "features"? why do they infect the system with crap like that? why don't they just stick to windows if they want botnet?

Let's see if you could help me out.

I distrohopped for a little bit and found that openSUSE tumbleweed is the most "stable" distro I could find on my end. Problem is, well, it's not that snappy as Fedora or Kubuntu under the same conditions.

Is it possible that the default setup of btrfs+xfs is the culprit here? Are those file systems not as mature or optimized for SSDs or maybe it is something else within openSUSE? I noticed that KDE takes a little bit longer to load the desktop, that's after booting which takes a considerable amount of time because of the wicked service (found out setting up a static IP address halves that, but it's still quite slow). Also it might be worth saying that applications just take a bit longer to open as well.

Had to install Skype for [GNU/]Linux the other day on Fedora 26. I just did a dnf upgrade and noticed that installing the initial RPM file added a skype-stable repo for managing updates. Obviously I still had to accept the repo keys but I thought it was neat that this was automated. Funnily enough, I use Visual Studio Code, also by MS, but that requires you to manually add a repo.

>>61453741
Nigger why are you browsing such sites in the first place?
To answer your question: The more popular something gets, the more downhill it goes. See: 4chan.

>>61453759
Enjoy your botnet.

what are some good news sites you guys follow?

can anyone recommend me an application for organizing my music collection like musicbee / foobar does on windows?

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>>61453796
hackernews

>>61453796
stallman.org

>>61453796
https://stallman.org/rss/

>>61453796
reddit is all you need

>>61443396
>>61445728
>>61448573
>>61450452
>>61453148
>>61453759
It isn't "GNU/Linux". GNU only consists of some basic programs every beginner programmer could write, except for gcc. Stallman did a good job writing gcc, but that doesn't mean it has to be included in the name of the operating system. You don't call a car Factory/Car, do you?

It actually is GNU/Linux, no idea what gets you people so heated up. Just say GNU/Linux. It's not hard. Linux is a kernel, pure and simple.

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>>61453888

Does anyone have a good grep regex oneliner to find all possible links like http(s), irc, ftp, etc?

>>61453902
Why should someone mention GNU in the name of the system just because they have written some beginner projects (except for gcc).

>>61453957
Try this:

grep -Eio '(ftp|https?|irc):\/\/[^ "\(\)\<\>]*'

Add the protocols you need.
>>61453959
Please think of the kittens.

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With Ubuntu having officially embraced Gnome as their stock DE, should I switch? Is Gnome useable without breaking or missing major features as a daily use DE?

I've been on MATE since damn near it's creation.

>>61443396
when they publish hashes, why is it only on SAME FUCKING DOWNLOAD PAGE and not on twitter or something for extra security?

>>61453959
GNU was the operating system without which Linux-kernel wouldn't exist or wouldn't even be conceived.
Not to mention without GNU operating system Linux-kernel wouldn't have an appropriate license that allowed it to proliferate as much as it did.

>some beginner projects
How many coreutils and C libraries have you reimplemented in you free time?

>>61446448
What if I _want_ to expand a variable?

>>61454051
You should probably forget about Ubuntu alltogether.
The moments when they wrote off Unity, Mir and (previously) Upstart were important milestones marking Canonical's shift from desktop-oriented distribution to the IoT meme. They are no longer interested in developing what makes them lose money (desktop) and are interested in developing what brings them money (ubuntu on fridges, washing mashines and your lawnmower)

>>61454092
So all of that suddenly makes Ubuntu bad now? What should I go to? Debian? Does Debian even work with all the new bells and whistles that new hardware comes with?

>>61454110
>So all of that suddenly makes Ubuntu bad now?
That's up to you to decide. Are you fine with using a distribution of which developers think if you as the 2nd class user or just a "lesser priority"? If yes, by all means use Ubuntu.

>Does Debian even work with all the new bells and whistles that new hardware comes with?
Such as?

>>61454110
Use whichever distro works for you. Protip: Those bashing on a particular distro or praising a particular distro aren't being reasonable and you should disregard what they say.
It's not like you lose money when distrohopping to try that which suits you best, or when figuring out how to set up the system the way you want it.

>>61454092
>not abandoning Ubuntu when they pushed a botnet to everyone

>>61454110
no, ditching mir and unity was best for everyone
gnome > unity
no one was going to support mir, i bet even steam and the proprietary gpu drivers for sure
so if anything future ubuntu is better now

>>61454031
thanks

>Potter-ify your Linux experience!
>Some basic Linux commands changed into Harry potter Spells!

https://github.com/gabru-md/LinuxSpells

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>>61454152
I don't care what the devs see me as so long as they keep the bug fixes and security patches rolling.
>such as?
USB C/3.1 capabilities. Ability to support newer graphics cards such as the gtx 9xx series and higher without having to manually reset the driver every other boot. M.2 nvme drives able to run at full speed. Ryzen microcode. Ubuntu is like the only one I've used that actually did all of this out of the box. Debian seems to fall on it's face and would cap my data transfer to sub 50MB/s over USB even though that same drive would do 110MB/s on Ubuntu.
>>61454158
Yea that's what I think too. I'll probably toss Ubuntu with the latest gnome release on it onto a live boot and try it for a few days.
>>61454162
Yea unity seemed like garbage. I couldn't bring myself to keep using it. And what is/was Mir? Why was it bad?

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>>61454268
linux community alraedy has it's voldemort and it's only the chamber of autism (gentoo, devuan etc) resisting it's influence

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>>61454268
>Linux commands
>GNU ls, GNU cp, GNU mv, GNU cat, GNU wget

>>61454268
nice idea, but I guess aliases is more simple?
or I miss something

>>61454344
I have no idea man, found this tool at /r/coolgithubprojects and thought its funny since you guys love source mage so much :^)

>>61454294
>Ability to support newer graphics cards such as the gtx 9xx series and higher without having to manually reset the driver every other boot
>M.2 nvme drives able to run at full speed.
>Ryzen microcode.
Recent kernels are not a feature exclusive to Ubanto.

>Debian seems to fall on it's face and would cap my data transfer to sub 50MB/s over USB even though that same drive would do 110MB/s on Ubuntu.
Measured with what?
Pagefiling is configured differently on debian and ubuntu. on Debian it's both configured for shittier hardware as well as in minimizing-potential-data-loses way

>>61454360
>you guys love source mage so much :^)
That's only one sperg lol.

>>61454360
>coolgithubprojects
good sub tbqh

What do people use for 3d modeling and video editing here?

>>61454392
blender

>>61454344
Looking into the source, it looks like the tools are actually rewritten in nodejs.

>>61454443
>rewriting coreutils
made something simliar a while back for practicing python

didn't /g/ rewrite them too in C?

>>61454392
>video editing here?
kdenlive
lwks.com
shotcut

>>61454400
does the encoder work well for export now?
the default was to export in .png and then merge with ffmpeg but what do if also audio edit?

>>61454470
>didn't /g/ rewrite them too in C?

they managed to design a logo and re-implement some literally 3 line code.

>>61454470
>>61454483
lmao I guess I found it

https://github.com/ms11/gentils
from https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=/g/_projects

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>>61454506
> Lo/g/os Operating System loonix MIT https://github.com/install-logos/logos Operating system that focuses on logos


Good days

You know how ublock origin and umatrix show all connections by their host name? Is there one like that for GNU/Linux because I tried wireshark and it showed only IPs

How can I find out which font I'm using in the console (console as in tty, not the terminal emulator)

>>61454518
Best logo /g/ ever designed.
>>61454555
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts#Console_fonts

Let's see if I got this right for a dual boot on UEFI

First I install linux distro
Then I install Windows
Then I use command on Windows to copy over some file on the EFI partition so it uses the linux bootloader instead

Is this right?

>>61454600
Install Windows first
Then GNU/Linux
Then remove Windows

>>61454662
I think I can optimize that
>Install GNU/Linux

done

>>61454674
Perfect!

>>61443396
i've installed slackware, now what?

>>61454689
install gentoo

>>61454294
>Mir
shuttlecock's latest fragmentation attempt

>>61454600
Windows on GPT mode first
Linux on GPT mode second
Grub should automatically find Windows boot and add it to the menu if your distro isn't shit

Do I want to install linux-hardened on my desktop or is it just for tinfoil autists and servers?

>>61453828

You use Puddletag to tag music.
You use a music player to play music.
You don't use one program for everything.

>>61454825
nothing to lose so install away

>>61443396
Hi, guys

is there a way to enqueue mail with msmtp offline so that I can shoot it off when I get online?

I have seen msmtp_enqueue, but I can't see how this would work and Luke Smith doesn't say shit on that. He just sets it up.

Is it possible to enqueue mail on my local machine and blast all of them once I'm online?

new thread?

New thread:
>>61455861
>>61455861
>>61455861

>>61453230
Thanks based anon

>>61447765
Actually, it's anywhere from 8-9GiB, but you can choose which packages to not install.