/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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early!

I want one of those new model F keyboards, but the lack of macros is turning me off.

>>61441763
Just slap an xwhatsit in it or an old model. Actually, don't those new ones already use that?

xwhatsit capsense utility 9.0 lets you set as many Macros as you want.

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>>61439862
I just picked up a new full set of pic related
Problem is I have 0 boards for it to go on.

Need my first board:
>Budget
Preferably less than $100 but limit $120ish
>switches
MX is a must prefer cherry reds or blues
>OS
macOS (free work computer)
>layout
60-70% preferred (split space would be clutch)
>ISO vs w/E
No preference as I got a full set of >terminal
>Endgame board
Clueboard with all the splitting

Was thinking of a fc660m

>>61442184
Tada68 since it comes with a bazillion switch options

>>61442184

If you end up choosing the FC660M, it'll be a great choice, but if you already wasted over $100 on caps, why just grab the Clueboard and never have to upgrade ever again?

>>61439885

How is it without the feet? Isn't it too flat and uncomfortable to use?

>>61442380
Because I'd have to wait a couple of months and I have no soldering iron at home :///

>>61442335
I haven't seen it for cherry
Only gateron

>>61442380
>>61442820
Plus I'll need to buy a new keyboard when I build my rig
I'm getting this board for work

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Got a CM Masterkeys pro l pic related for $100 with 2 extra keycap sets ( Black and crystal ) brand new from a local shop.

>>61442335
Keyboards with north facing LEDs are garbage.

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>>61439862
Haha this will go great with my Trump paraphernalia!

Just bought a Leopold FC980m with cherry mx blues. Have I made a mistake?

>>61444505
Have you anon?

>>61442834
Then you aren't looking hard enough. You can even get it with zealios

>>61444505
Yes, should have gotten fc980c.

>>61442380
Isn't the clueboard out of stock?

>>61443947
A foreign-made keyboard? At least get a unicomp, you globalist filth

>>61443947
>Artisan Keycaps
>>>/r/thedonald

>>61444652
Well shit
Guess I'll try looking again

My Industrial Model M is dead. I don't like how the beige Model Ms look.

What keyboard can I buy that doesn't look like shit? All the keyboards I see are either edgy gaymer keyboards with LEDs. The ones that are lightly colored always have logos plastered all over them.

Also why do so many keyboards have a shitty typeface for the keys?

>>61445587
what's wrong with your industrial?

>>61445594
I accidentally spilled water on it a few years ago when it wasn't being used. There is a mineral buildup probably since we have hard water. It keeps pressing the Alt key or doing other strange things.

>>61445587
Unicomp sells model Ms with industrial cases

>>61445587
Get a ducky one with pbt keycaps

>>61445587
if you really like your Model M, you can get replacement parts from clickykeyboards or unicomp, but you'll have to do a bolt mod.

>>61445667
I'm not modding a genuine Industrial Model M, even if it doesn't work.

The most I'd do is swap the case on my normal Model M.

>>61445634
I can't seem to find any places I buy from that sell them.

>>61445618
They don't have the black and metal IBM logo like the real ones do. The blue and grey look like shit with the Industrial colors. I don't understand how that combination came about.

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Did I fuck up?

>>61445842
I said Unicomp sells model Ms with industrial cases. It costs extra, but they do sell them. They even sell them seperatly if you want to switch the case with a normal model m

>>61445842
>>61445913
Sorry I meant badges not cases. They sell black industrial badges

>>61445842
mechanicalkeyboards.com

>>61445869
yea

i really like this keyboard http://www.coolermaster.com/peripheral/keyboards/masterkeys-l-with-superior-pbt-keycaps/
but where could i get windows keycaps that go along with the other keycaps?

>>61445869
I'm using one right now and quite like it but what do I know I got it off a buddy for 20 bucks.

>>61442834
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/tada68-keyboard-diy-kit

don't mind the DIY part, you can have them assemble it for you for $10

>>61445842
>The most I'd do is swap the case on my normal Model M.
well... why don't you do that?

>>61446328
>Tada68 in ISO
holy shit sign me up

>>61445587
Wait for the Leopold boards with doubleshot pbt keycaps to release in a few months.

>>61445966
I cant believe they are still using the cm logo keys for windows keys, you will not be able to find any pbt keys that match that profile as replacements.

What's the recommended wrist rest for a 60%? I'd read a couple bad reviews on the grifiti's quality control but that could just be certain users eating doritos at their computer non stop. Are the glorious ones worth twice the price? Any I may have missed that are worthwhile.

>>61445966
forget about it, either use it with the stock keycaps as a decent budget board or get a cheaper keyboard and replace the full set of keys. also they kinda dropped the ball by using OEM profile instead of cherry profile but i guess they didn't want to make their other keyboards unsellable to normies by marketing cherry profile as superior

>>61447420
Get better posture instead, wrist rests are A meme. Or at least go for the ultimate meme and just use a folded dish/hand towel so you can actually wash it when you do your biannual trip to the laundromat.

>>61447491
Posture is fine and I'm sincerely unsure if there's a laundromat anywhere near me... I thought that was something that died out in the 80's or 90's.

>>61447420
wrist rests aren't good for you. Either get a better chair, or do what that other anon said and use a towel of your choice

I bought this set of caps the other day:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/32740037614.html

Few days later I get a message saying that they're not in stock and he'd give the same price for another color. I said I'm set on the black ones and asked when they'd be in stock. He said:

>Hi,will not in stock.I am so sorry

Yet they're still for sale and even 10% off now. What gives? These are the only double shot pbt white on black keys I could find on ali. Any suggestions for another source that isn't super expensive?

>Budget
200€
>Location
France
>Preferred switch type
MX red but open to try MX brown and Romer G
>Layout
Kinda need help on this one as I need AZERTY layout to write in French but will later need a layout to write in Icelandic as well
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
RGB to match setup colors
>Previous/current keyboards
Cyborg v7 (previous) and Corsair k70 (current)

>>61447839
Now I'm thinking this may have been lost in translation with chinglish. Maybe he meant one of the color kits from that set of caps?

What's the best lube for keyboard switches?

>>61447958
Superlube. Non-conductive, non-reactive with plastic, can be applied easily with a paintbrush.

>>61447885
Just get an Arabic keyboard, you will need one soon enough.

>>61447885
Ducky shine 5 azerty
https://www.alternate.be/Ducky/Keyboards-AZERTY/Ducky-Shine-5

>>61448010
interesting. do you recommend Super Lube in oil or grease form? not sure which one I should go for..

>>61448164
Grease. Always grease in these kind of applications.

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>>61443947
Can decide if I like the keyboard or gun better.

>>61448253
Grip safetys are gayer than twink porn.

>>61445842
>The most I'd do is swap the case on my normal Model M.
Just do that, why are you even questioning anything else?

>>61448434
Its not that bad. But I do use the sig alot more....

>>61444505
are the keyboard switches on that replaceable?

>>61448253
You can't shoot yourself with the keyboard, so I'm gonna go with the gun.

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Ok, so whats the verdict on these "Kishsaver" boards?
Is it literally just new model F with a modern layout and usb, or are they built with better parts and allow you to program them and shit?
Because from what I'm seeing is its just a smaller model F in black for more money.
Don't get me wrong, I would like to have one. But fuck that price and commitment.

>>61448595
You can replace the switch on almost all mechanical keyboards

>>61448253
+1 for P226
-1 for Springfield Armory
Neutral on keyboard. I'm sure it's nice but I can't get over the lack of numpad on so many of these

>>61447839
>>61447911
that's odd. if you went with kit 1 you would think they could just send one of the other kits without the colored keycaps if they have any of them in stock.

if you're ok with the rainbow set, you could ask if they can send one of those instead, but of course if you want the white on black you should try to clarify what they mean if they'll never come back in stock or if they mean you can pick a different kit or what

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/32799680240.html

>>61448629
Turns out he meant to sent me a link for the other color but forgot to put it in the message. Said they're dyed...don't know if that means dye-sub or printed. He's out right now and will get back to me. Thanks for the link, I actually wouldn't mind going with those as an alternative. If I don't like the ones he's talking about, I'll try and ask for those.

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>>61448609
The banking terminal 4704 model Fs were made entirely of metal unlike the plastics of the normal one. I wish he'd clone the full size 4704 tho. But those keyboards are better built then the original and are more of a reproduction of the classic style so they have the same layout. The small 4704 model Fs are much rarer and sell for $1000+ so this is for those who want something of better quality in a more modern package like the slimmer bezel. Besides adjusting for inflation the normal model F cost $990 back then, and the kishy ones costed a lot more

>>61448609
They are fully programmable. They have a custom board in them that was designed to retrofit vintage model f keyboards.

So, I got my Magicforce a day early and I have to say I don't think I could go back to Blue switches after switching to browns. They feel perfect.

>>61448629
Oh, and about the stock thing. I asked when they'll be in stock again and he says:

>Hi,will not in stock.I am so sorry

So pretty sure they're done. Which still makes me wonder why they're still for sale.

>>61448723
>So pretty sure they're done. Which still makes me wonder why they're still for sale.
That is the chink way. Hopefully you can work something out.

>>61448616
ya the 1911 is a 1911....but its a cheap gun and kind of feels and shoots like one.

>>61439862
/mkg/ I have a filco and bought a plum to see if I liked low force keys, but I found that I don't really like the flat keyboard compared to filco's slight upward curve toward the upper key rows.

Basically what I want now is a higher force keyboard with the same kind of curve. Can anybody point me in the right direction?

>>61448719
Just wait until you try bucking springs or Matias switches.

>keep having problems with the mini usb port on my keyboard with disconnections all the time
Should I message the seller and see if I can get a new PCB?

Anyone with a Plum84 ITT or just know the board: what are the dimensions of the spacebar? Same as Noppoo Choc?

>>61448918
The term you are looking for is profile, most keyboards have a stepped profile (what you want) as opposed to a flat one.

>>61448997
5.5u, same as noppoo choc mini

these are the keycap sets i know of that have it (be wary of the first two, see >>61447839)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/32740037614.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/32799680240.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/XDA-141-Key-Full-Set-Keyset-Blank-Similar-to-DSA-For-MX-Mechanical-Keyboard-Steelseries-Ergo/32797415493.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Carbon-DSA-PBT-Perfect-Arc-Spherical-Keycap-White-Radium-vulture-Cherry-MX-switch-keycaps-for-Mechanical/32803021562.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Noppoo-choc-mini-84-2M-use-white-Blank-print-PBT-keycap-oem-height-gaming-keyboard-mechanical/32482735486.html
https://world.taobao.com/item/524804620652.htm
https://world.tmall.com/item/522221512672.htm

>>61449099
Cheers, thank you very much.

>>61449099
>be wary of the first two, see >>61447839 (You)

If you look in the description pictures it features two space bars of different sizes. Pretty sure one of them is 6.25.

>>61449121
yes, and the other is 5.5u, i meant be wary in case it won't come back in stock

>>61449145
Whoops, I see what you mean now.

>>61448044
Im not actually racist or xenophobic but that made me lol

>>61449070
You're right about the word profile, but what I want is a rising curve, not just a stepped profile.

>>61449239
Like the model M one or contoured keys
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_profile

>>61449338
Curved Backplane.

Thanks for the link, I know now what to look for.

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>buy an expensive mechanical keyboard they said
>it's better quality they said

>after 1 year of use all the keys are fucking shiny and lost their matte look just like my elcheapo keyboards

thanks faggots

>>61449460
You didn't buy one with PBT keycaps?

Why do you spend so much money without doing research first?

>>61449460
>he didn't look at anything past the pricetag
You only have yourself to blame.

>>61449460
if you asked /mkg/ you probably got told to get pbt keycaps but you didn't listen

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>ordering keycaps without inscriptions
>just to feel 2smart
>not having a visual aid in those very rare situations, but that happen, when looking at the inscriptions help

I'm done buying keyboards till a 96 key layout comes along that I can get in MX Clears that's not some stupid group buy I gotta hover over to get in on.

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>>61448253
Does this help you decide?

>>61449690
Have you officially been diagnosed with autism? How much is left of daddy's trust fund?

>>61448713
>>61448715
Good info, thanks!

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Which one should I get?

>>61447839
>>61448629
>>61448756
>>61449099

So he got back to me. The one he offered me is in fact that rainbow one, so I decided to take that instead.

>>61449938
What's the top one?

>>61450125
Leopold fc660c

>Budget
$50-$100
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
Not sure. Have only used cherry MX reds
>Layout
Need 10-key. All other keys optional
>Form factor
Doesn't matter.
>Backlight
Pretty rainbow stuff is cool, but not necessary
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently have a Corsair K90. It's just beat up and some keys misbehaving.

I work from home so typing is the primary concern. Some gaming but nothing very demanding.

Been intrigued by Ornata, but thought of going to anything with membrane is concerning.

Top priority is typing prowess. Also needs a wrist rest.

>>61450267
Leopold or ducky one, switches you need to figure out but probably browns or blues.

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I know this might not be the correct place to ask but has anyone used this keyboard? And would you recommend it? Like the way it looks. Though if any one has any recommendations of cheap mk that looks like this it will be greatly appreciated.

>>61449736
This is very rude and unseemly, what would lead you to either of these conclusions?

>>61450487
By cheap I mean under 100. Or if possible under ,50 usd

>Budget
Can be more than 150€
>Location
EU
>Preferred switch type
Only used MX Red so either linear or tactile
>Layout
US International
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
RGB if possible
>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair K70 RGB MX Red

I don't know if it's possible to have keycaps with alt-gr characters that are compatible with backlighting

>>61450798
<mandatory ducky one shill post>

>>61450487

I used the same one only labeled IBM, it's good membrane keyboard.

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I have a G610, but it probably applies to all the logitechs with lights:
Is there a way to show the actual caps/num/scroll-lock status ON the key instead of the top indicator lights? Ie. enabling caps lights up the key, disabling it turns it off? Seems like a standard thing to want to do, but I can't find anything like it in the stupid config app.

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>>61445869
Them scroll volumes have saved me many a time, it's worth it just for that function. I have the Logitech g610 though, similar concept.

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I really like the look of 60% keyboards but are they comfortable to use?

Which is the better key, gateron brown or blue?

Would brown be too light if I'm coming from MX blacks?

>>61452569

planning on getting a tada btw

>>61452569
Go and get some aliexpress switch testers and fiddle with them for a while.

>>61439862
t. when getting a set of keycaps is more expensive than getting a kb with the keycaps on it.

They're getting away with murder charging stupid prices for moulded plastic.

>>61452532
Dunno man it'd at least have to have f keys to be useful. I don't mean having f keys as a layer either.
Functionality over form always.

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>>61439862
Anyone recommend a TKL wrist rest for the cheap? Like <$10? Preferably cloth topped if possible.
Wrist rests seem to cost more than the full-sized counterparts though just being the same thing, but smaller. And seeing a lot of those wooden wrist rests go for as much as they do for being just a literal block of wood with a finish baffles me.

Also anyone recommend any keycaps with a stepped capslock key? I can't seem to find those anywhere, I'm starting to consider cannibalizing some caps from other keyboards.

>>61452813
example?

>>61452829
I don't really use my F keys that often. Am I missing some important shortcuts?

>>61453349

I only use it to F5 desu

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>>61453349
You're probably not using file-managers like Midnight Commander or other software (mostly CLI) that rely heavily on the function keys.

I couldn't live without the numeric pad either.

I get why lamers / gamers want 65% keyboards but to me it just seems retareded. I guess I could have one without the numpad if I had a separate numpad on the other side of the mouse but that seems a bit silly compared to just using a real keyboard.

>>61453349
Games & bios. Some people may think games are a side thing and shouldn't factor. Most of my use is games so I need them f keys.

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>browsing leddit
>mechanical keyboard post pops up
>59 people all gushing over this ugly piece of shit keyset


Shills? or do you all just have the worst taste ever

>>61452943
Two things
1. Wrist rests are bad for you and if you want something cheap just use a towel.
2. Most stepped keys have an off center stem making them incompatible. A few like the gateron ones don't. Just look for them on aliexpress or taobao

>>61453984
>getting mad at other people's tastes
Now that's sad.
Just move on if that's not your thing, man. You don't see me getting mad at >>61450487 for actually liking that ugly-as-sin board.

>>61449938
that's a damn good question. do you want compactness and a steel backplate? which layout and look do you like the best?
also realforce is the only manufacturer that produces 55g topre keyboards so if that's what you want then you have your choice there

>>61454377
Fine, I'll move on.
So long as everyone is aware that it's literally fedora in key form and if you buy it I will report you to my dad that works at 4chan HQ.

Cya ~~good taste anon

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>Got notified by the local mech keyboard store bro that they just imported a bunch of TADA68's new White edition.
Fuck me, this hobby is nowhere as expensive as watch collecting, but it's still fucking draining.

Are there any fairly cheap spherical keycaps available at this point?

>>61454556
>spherical keycaps

whats wrong with you my man

>>61454604
Aesthetics.

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Why don't more manufacturers use a floating key design with switches exposed at the sides. Seems easier to clean one you get the caps off.

>>61454556
Yes the chinks now have SA keycaps for 80 bucks

>>61454771
Any sets with OS-neutral meta keys? I like how the Granite set has a diamond key, like on Sun keyboards.

>>61454818
Only if you use 1u Super keys, they have molds for 1.25u WIN and 1u novelty Cherry logo and Sakura.

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/maxkey-dolch-sa-double-shot-abs-keycaps

>>61454761
Wouldn't they also be easier to attract dust?

>>61454993
No, they're not. The only reason to not have floating keys is what some people consider "aesthetics"

>>61454993
Last I checked, dust wasn't magnetic, and no material or arrangement of materials could attract dust. Dust forms on all surfaces equally.

>>61455110
What if the dust was made from steel shavings?

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>>61454889
Those prices at kbdfans are kind of ridiculous, they sure know how to take advantage of being the only game in town (there are others, but kbdfans is basically the biggest).

$99.00 for ABS, not even PBT, keycaps? There's plenty of good keyboards with MX switches and a full set of ABS keycaps available for less than that.

On a completely different topic, my Ducky Shine 5 arrived. I'm honestly find the rather ugly font on the ABS keycaps that came with it disappointing. I guess I should have checked more closely before ordering it.. but it kind of looked better on the pictures.

>>61455274
Actually those prices are reasonable since before it used to cost $180 for a set like that. Prices have gone down now that max key has bought SP's old SA molds, and will continue to do so when more and more people enter the game. Its just that molds are expensive to produce. You can get it cheaper if you order from maxkey directly since KBD fans is just a re-seller, but I hope you understand chinese. Also MAXkey sets can be found on aliexpress, taobao, keyclack, and originative

>>61455358
Of course it's not reasonable to charge as much for just keycaps as a keyboard with keycaps retails for. Why they want that much is their problem and it changes nothing.

To me it doesn't matter that much what they charge, though, buying a keyboard is pretty much the only way to get ISO keys anyway.

>>61455440
Oh you're on of those faggots. Maybe this is more to your liking
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Assisted_Suicide_Aids_For_Poorfags/32561114555.html

>>61455440
>Of course it's not reasonable to charge as much for just keycaps as a keyboard with keycaps retails for.
even though they are ABS, you can't compare them to normal cheapo keycaps. compare them to the ones SP make (or don't make, because all their production capacity has already been booked). no one is forcing you to buy them.

>>61455440
You really have no idea how expensive double shot molds are do you? Its 3,000-10,000 per key since each one needs its own unique mold. Not only that PBT is very brittle and will easily break during the process, so to keep costs down ABS is used instead. It took ducky three years to develop their double shot PBT keycaps. Only two others (Tai-hao and vortex) make double shot PBT, and Ducky's implementation still has issues. High quality stuff is expensive to make, but obviously you're just a dumb yuropoor so stick to whatever OEM shit you use.

>>61455440
>what is economy of scale

>>61455683
Problem is, where's the cheap chink shit plastic caps? All caps are overpriced. Of course special caps are gonna be expensive

>>61455440
Oh look, it's one those idiots who have no idea how something is manufactured but still insist on "It shouldn't more expensive thatn what my misinformed brain thought it should be and so that's what they are wrong"

>>61455763
How cheap do you want them? Just get them from china you retard. This was the first seller I found on aliexpress. Use your brain for once.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Keycap/429151_509155534.html

>back-lit keyboard costs $20
>cheapest cap set costs the double
Defend this

>>61455820
no they don't retard

>>61449938
Fc660c

hmm can i use a laminating sheet with a heat gun to make dust cover for my kb? or are they too thin?

>>61449938
None of them. Get the 980c instead

>>61455763
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ANSI-layout-abs-keycaps-oem-profile-104-keycap-blacklit-for-cherry-mx-keyboard/32815503155.html

>>61455834
Look it up next time. This was the second result

http://m.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Mechanical-White-Keyboard-LED-Backlit-Game-keyborad-Blue-Switches-Gaming-/222573256813?hash=item33d266606d%3Ag%3AlvUAAOSwjk9ZXu~O&_trkparms=pageci%253Ab9633101-6c92-11e7-9e3e-74dbd1802e6d%257Cparentrq%253A5b5b7da815d0ab4d708bce94fffee8c2%257Ciid%253A2

>>61455820
>McDonalds Chicken McNuggets cost 5 bucks
>A glass of Mojito cost double
See how easy that was?

>>61455977
that's not a fullsize keyboard and the cheapest keycaps don't cost that much

>>61455977
And look up the keycaps too moron. You can get cheap chink shit for 6 bucks. There are several $10 mechanical keyboards as well.
Holy fuck you're a grad A dumbass.

>>61455977
Poorfags are so horrible and pathetic.

>>61455977
When I said no they don't I was referring to the keycaps dip shit. I know of those chink keyboards anon. Doesn't change the fact you can get keycaps for 10 bucks. What's next you're gonna link me a GMK set and complain about that?

>>61447885
>Kinda need help on this one as I need AZERTY layout to write in French but will later need a layout to write in Icelandic as well
wait whut?
You can write in almost every language on normal QWERTY, just use alt gr for modifiers or set the additional characters on a second layer

>>61454444
>literally fedora in key form
Like getting *anything* beyond a basic rubberdome or some standard gaming branded mechanical is not. You really don't need a special snowflake overpriced input device to enter urls into your browser you know...

>>61454454
I might have to get this, but with alloy case. I didn't like the color scheme of the original tada and the right shift size made it difficult to buy replacement keycaps for a reasonable price.

>>61456341
you know if you contact tai-hao they'll sell you one of their garbage doubleshot pbt sets with a short right shift for like $50, right?

anyone know where to get Varmilo TKL kits, or TKL kits in general. plate+pcb+case that is

>>61456362
didn't know that. Pictures on their site have normal sized shifts.
How garbage are they?

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>>61456492
They're sticky since they use this shitty antibacterial coating, but you can burn it off with 99% alcohol. Other then that its cheap ABS and thin enough that you can mod them however you want.

>>61456526
>anti-bacterial coating

why do chinks do this?

>>61456526
lol that fucked up space

what kind of ham fisted retard fucks up that bad lmao

>>61457215
as if you would do better without using fancy tools

>>61457238
you're right i'm not retarded enough to try doing something i don't have appropriate tools for

enjoy your eyesore

>>61457311
it's not my eyesore lol i wouldn't want any miami especially not from tai-hao and what's with the brown esc

>>61454311
I actually think a wrist rest wouldn't be bad, my keyboard's front is a bit taller than average as well as the arm rests on my chair, so to type, my wrists have to be bent and hands pointing more upward than normal, a wrist rest would mean my wrists and hands would lay more flat.
I tried using a towel, but they slip too much and just feel weird after a while from the material they're made out of.

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>>61457771
Since you have an arm rest it sounds like you just have shit posture. Just get creative with a phone book or something

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I kinda want to buy the whitefox on kickstarter but I'm not sure which switches to get.
I'm a little afraid of the halo true switches, as I can't test them anywhere. Anyone used them or know if it's possible to buy a single switch for a switch tester?
Or should I just go the safe route and buy it with kaihua blues?

>>61458009
Why do you care shill? /mkg/ is the last place you'd want to advertise your keyboard.

>>61458009
If you don't know what switches to buy you shouldn't be getting an expensive hipster keyboard.

>>61458105
but I like expensive hipster stuff. I'm just afraid their halos might be mushy shit or something and it's impossible to test them anywhere.

>>61458153
why not get a tada68 with zealios or someshit. no one has tried those halo switches they're brand new you dumb shit

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What colors are the keys in the middle? And are the ones on the sides the darkest grey?

I've heard people say gateron linears are better than cherry, but their clickies are shit, is this true?

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Spilled green tea on my kb today :(

Does anyone know of a nice wrist rest that isn't made of wood for a 60% keyboard? preferably with no dumb branding.

>>61449460
>being this much of a troglodyte than you can't research keycaps and buy PBT caps
basically you are just telling us that you are fucking retarded

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So... ~40% keyboard with arrow keys. Is there any other option besides pic related?
Looks to be ideal size to carry around, but I can't find it anywhere except some long dead massdrop

>>61449182
>>>/reddit/

>>61461703
just buy a bad dragon if you want something that fits up your ass

Filco or Ducky?
Best budget(100) keyboard from both ?
Best high end from both ?

>>61461703

What kind of serious typing are you doing on the road? If you have so much work to do, why not stay in your office or at home?

>>61462277
I might not be doing a lot of typing, but due to my job I do have to bring a laptop everywhere I go, even on vacation. And I prefer to work with the laptop screen raised to eye level and external mouse/keyboard than using the built-in keyboard and touchpad.

>>61460514
>XMIT
that pos board deserved it

>>61445869
>>61450487
>>61452527
>>61452943
>>61454454
>>61454761
>Non-standard bottom row


D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
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my old logitech g110 finally broke down
any good kbs with over 12 macro keys? cant live without those

the only thing special about a industrial is the case and the plate
do a screw mod on a regular M and savage the good parts of the industrial

>>61463498
Get a full size programmable keyboard, then switch it so the numpad is nothing but dedicated macro keys. That way it doesn't look gaymery, and if for some reason you need the numpad you can always switch profiles really quickly

Got a switch tester with a bunch of tactiles, posting opinions
>MX Browns
Reds with an almost unnoticeable bump
>MX Clears
Gritty and heavy but the tactile bump is nice and the most noticeable
>MX Tactile Gray
H E A V Y
>Gateron Browns
Smooth with an okay bump
>Outemu Browns
Sharp bump that's more noticeable than MX or Gateron
>Outemu Purples
They sorta just feel like Outemu browns with a slightly less noticeable bump that's smoother and slightly heavier
>MODs
Long smooth bump but not as smooth as Gaterons
>Zealios
They're like a smoother MX Clear with a nice smooth bump, just as smooth as Gateron Browns (expected)
>Kailh Copper
It's more tactile than Gateron/MX Browns but it actuates really high up so it's hard to notice it at all

>My rankings from best to worst
Zealios, MX Clear, Outemu Brown, MODs, Gateron Browns, Outemu Purples, Kailh Copper, MX Tactile Gray (too heavy), MX Browns

Need a new keyboard for the office, but my only spare is a blue-switch (which is unfortunately too loud, but fortunately replaceable).

Where can I get some plate mounted brown switches for <$30? Doesn't matter if they're knock off outemus or gaterons. If not, am I better off with some chinese knock off mechanical brown?

>>61464198
aliexpress

>>61464211
Is there any place that will deliver within the next 2 weeks?

>>61464295
aliexpress

>>61464295
I just ordered a set of caps with 7-16 day shipping by DHL. Was about $20.

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>>61452532
Literally just got mine a week ago and I fucking love it. If you get a programmable one and have a bit of patience it will suit you well. So says my week of expertise.

pic related

>>61454761
I really like this keyboard for some reason, it's got something about it that is very pleasing to look it.

I have experience soldering. Is it worthwhile to mod clears into ergo-clears? Or is it just a meme?

Is it possible to find a japanese-style bottom row (and optionally japanese uniform stagger) but no arrow keys?

My main gripe with an HHKB would be the wasted potential for modifiers, which are instead replaced by a huge spacebar for no reason, and empty space for even less reason. This would severely limit my layer autism. Meanwhile, most jap layouts come in a tkl-type format, thus eliminating the main need for meme layers since stuff like the arrow and navigation keys are right there.

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>>61466089
just get the jap hhkb you fag

>>61466089
Filco Minila still has arrow keys but it's the closest you're gonna get, and cheaper than a JIS HHKB meme.

>>61466118
Oh wait they come without arrow keys? I didn't know that. Nice!

Now... Where can I get one in the UK?

>>61466150
are you blind or taking the piss

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>>61454761
Reminds me of this

>>61466175
I'm blind, sorry.

Still, I like the layout.

>>61466149
>want extra modifiers for meme layers
>get recommended non-programmable kb
Good find on the layout though. But I wanted to get a Topre too, so a japanese hhkb would actually work out pretty nice.

>>61466265
Jap HHKBs are expensive. Even here in the US they cost 250 bucks. In England they're even rare since you guys don't have an official distributor. You can always import one from PFU

>>61463947
Which weight zealios, and where did you get this tester?

Quick question: is the only difference between http://www.smartimports.net/pfu-happy-hacking-keyboard-professional-bt-bluetooth-in-white-japanese-layout/ and http://www.smartimports.net/happy-hacking-keyboard-professional-jp-japanese-layout/ the bluetooth?

Hi /mkg/

I'm looking to grab a bluetooth/wireless mechanical keyboard.

Buying advice?

Would prefer no more than ~100$, tenkeyless or 60%, and MX or Gateron switches.

Am I fucking myself with bluetooth? I really don't like wires since I mainly use a laptop on a stand.

I'm looking at the Anne Pro but I'm not sure if meme

pls help

what is a good budget one

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tl;dr below
I posted about a week ago that I bought one of these (pic related) and I've been pressing these keys since. Tacticle and clicky are my jam, fuck linear.

I think I've decided that I like cmx greens and cmx tactile greys. My only wish is for a key with an even more tacticle response than cmx tacticle greys and a higher resistance than cmx greens. Gateron greens seem the way to go, but the curve graph on input(dot)club's website doesn't show much (if any) of a maximum resistance (input force required to activate) higher than CMX greens.

Is there a tactile or clicky switch that requires higher force-input than gateron greens that isn't linear?

>>61466968
yeah buckling springs

>>61466746
Magicforce

>>61466968
All I know is I'm probably the only guy in this thread that typed on tactile grays every day for a whole year. You really don't want heavier than that.

Grab some buckling springs for the click. The grays are what I got to have something kinda quiet with a similar feel. They're not heavier but they are more satisfying.

>>61467017
>>61467055
is there any modern keyboards that use buckling springs or will I have to jfmsu and buy an ibm?

>>61467105
Unicomp makes classic buckling springs models.

>>61467105
IBM doesn't make them anymore. You'd have to buy them from unicomp. There is a version with a slimmer, lighter case, but I like it with the big fat original one. You can order them on amazon or get a custom one from unicomp's website

>>61467105
Unicomp makes new Model M's pretty cheap, and there's a Model F reproduction project that's pretty cool going on right now that should have stuff delivered in a couple months.

Personally, I got a Unicomp used super cheap and an old Beamspring so I haven't been too interested in throwing a lot of money down on new boards. Fuck, that Model F compact case looks tempting for a few hundred bucks when the old F AT's go for like $200 anyway.

>>61467131
>>61467140
>>61467148

Thank you for being so helpful, those reproductions look like something I'll get.

Any idea about the input force compared to the ones in my original post? >>61466968

>>61467198
Actuation of 70g. Grays are 80g. So not as high but the feel is fantastic.

>>61466265
If you want programmable maybe you should ask for it next time instead of posting a confused mess.

>>61467198
BS bottom out at 90g. Greys are closer to 100

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>>61467248
>>61467301
ty

>Not using ultra heavy switches
It's like you don't want to train your finger muscles.

>>61467392
This.
If you don't use 280g APC switches, you might as well stick to membranes

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>>61467392
>not building your own keyboard out of industrial strength caps
you probably use blues anyways

>He needs the whole alphabet on his keyboard
Top kek. Real typists only need 0 and 1 bit keys.

>>61463947
Why did you exclude all the various Blue switches?

>>61467539
>He doesn't know morse code

>>61466447
Anne Pro or Drevo Calibur.
The Anne Pro is OK and has its fans.It's fine.

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>>61456341
Get something like the CMYW modifier set, which has a bunch of keys in different sizes.

>>61467540
Doesn't want his coworkers to stab him.

>>61467600
Thanks!

>>61463947
MX clears wear smooth after awhile. You just gotta use them until you break them in.

which are better cherry reds or browns

which is better socks or hats

>>61467927
Hats definitely. Socks make your feet all sweaty and gross, barefoot life.

>>61467963
Counterpoint: Hats ruin your hair and make your head sweaty

>>61468066
A fair point, but I don't face that problem because I keep my hair short enough for a hat to not affect it.

>>61468092
So would you say it depends whether or not how hairy you are as a person then?

>>61467900
obviously, there's only one choice
[spoiler]the one that's right for you[/spoiler]

>>61468106
Not entirely. I would say socks are always terrible, while depending on your hairstyle, hats may be passable.

>>61468121
>socks are always terrible
That can't be true for areas with inclimate weather patterns. During the winter, I love putting on my thickest pairs of socks. Winter hats definitely mess up and cause my head to get sweaty.

>>61468164
Canada here, Can confirm.
Wool socks at -30c are the tits

>>61463947
sounds like outemu brown is underrated compared to gateron brown

>>61468164
Makes sense, I'm mostly basing my view off living in a tropical climate where the temperature dipping below 20c is a rarity.

>>61467900
gateron/outemu brown

how are ducky pbt keycaps? heard the doubleshot process for those arent so good but i dont think theyre that great on vortex either

>>61451750
>Is there a way to show the actual caps/num/scroll-lock status ON the key instead of the top indicator lights?
If anyone else wondered, no, its not possible with the current software. I found somebody else suggesting it on the logitech boards quite recently though, so maybe I'll make an appearance at some point.

Meanwhile it is totally possible to create the functionality with autohotkey and the Logitech LED SDK DLL. Took a while to set that up, but it does seem to work perfectly fine now.

>>61462626
it really is a piece of shit. at least it makes for a halfass display for those hanas

>>61462626
>>61469703
What's the problem with XMIT?
This is my first time seeing that name anywhere.

Is the aluminium case worth it for the tada? Or is it not worth 50$? Is the plastic case too light?

>>61470611
I have a first generation plastic case Tada and it's pretty sturdy, and definitely not light

>>61442184
>no preference
>actually wanting the microscopic shift key of ISO
Eurocucks, when will they learn.

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Thought about XDA profile?

As someone who's just getting into mechanical switches after 10+ years of using membrane boards, which type of switches are the most like what I'm used to? From this comparison http://i.imgur.com/5uKCsvv.png I gather it's reds?
I'll probably try to get a testing/sampler thing later so that I can compare the different switch types, but for now, my current board is failing and I need a replacement rather quickly.

>>61466746
Easterntimestech/victsing i-500

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Ahahahahahahahahahaha

This is why gayming keyboards are shit kiddos

>>61470928
Hi are you in the us or have access to Amazon prime? If so, go buy a switch tester and return it After you are done with it

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>>61470611
All these posts about buying switch testers make me wonder: Don't you people have brick-and-mortar mech keyboard stores in your local areas?

I live in a damn third-world country, and in my city there are like 6-7 stores where I can just stop by to test news imported arrivals.

I seriously cannot fathom getting into this hobby without trying out a bunch of keyboards first before buying.

>>61471508
That's Asia, in English-speaking countries brick and mortar specialty stores are rare in general. So all we have is trying out Razer, Logitech or Corsair at our local general electronics stores.

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>>61470904
Looks pretty weird toqh.
Nice job on picking the colors though. Seriously retro.

>>61471536
Specialty stores are rare?
Even in shopping malls?
God, that honestly sounds... boring.

>>61471326
>cheap chink shit doesn't fit supreme swiss precision tolerances
*lach*

>>61463947
I always heard Outemu browns were shit, I might have to buy a cheap 30$ keyboard I was looking at with them

>>61471578
It is. Shopping malls are generally nearly 20 different clothing stores, about half a dozen health and beauty stores (massage parlours, hairdressers, etc), maybe 2 or 3 general electronics and/or media stores, a couple department stores and a supermarket.

>>61471578

My mall has 2 kid toy stores, rest of them are clothing stores and starbucks.

>>61468287
Well no shit then, I don't wear socks either when it's +20 around here.

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>>61449938
Different people, different priorities man.
I for one will never ever get a HHKB because I'm already used to having 4 modifier keys (the usual 3 plus Capslock remapped into the Hyper key). Losing one would break my daily workflow.

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>>61471586
Given the fact that they can't even read a datasheet in order to get stabilizer placement to the standard, I wouldn't be surprised if they're keycaps have some slightly off measurements too.

>>61471578
They aren't that guy is a retard. Here in north america we have microcenter, tiger direct, and ncix. They carry all sorts of keyboards, and you can even make requests.

>>61472735

>north america is everything

lol

>>61472743
>english speaking countries
Yeah it pretty much is. If you want to include the UK I know the keyboard company has a physical location, as well as as cooler master (but those are mostly just topre keyboards)

>>61472821

Dude, there's barely even any stores with plenty of keyboards in the UK.

In Europe it's mostly media markets with logitech/trust/corsair/razer shit, and usually laid out with mostly red switches.

There's no microcenter equivalent here, and I've been to the one in paterson.

>>61472842
Doesn't UK have micro direct? Its listed by Ducky as one of their resellers. Thats the only European country I've been through so I'm going of from memory

>>61472895

It's been bankrupt for years now.

Just ordered a PLASTIC tada68 with blue gaterons, how bad did I fuck up?

Why do vendors keep selling plate-mount/3-pin switches when PCB-mount/5-pin are superior in every situation bar handwiring?

>>61473460
Not at all, good choice.

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think ill get it lads?

>>61473460
it's good.

>>61473483
>>61473695

t-thanks, I did pay for expedited shipping cause it takes a month for shit to get here normally.

Bought it on ali through kbdfans, should I message him to ask if he can write the actual worth to be lower for taxes? I dunno if chinks are willing like that

Is mechanical keyboard good for typewriting/better than others? Never had one, recently started typewriting course and my keyboard is less than satisfying to put it mildly

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>>61463947
Switch Testers give you an extremely accurate impression of what each switch is like on a switch tester; better to try even just a couple full keyboards and make an informed choice from there. Also, your penis is small, small.

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How would this kit compare to an Anne Pro in terms of quality? I planning on getting an inexpensive PBT keyset with it from the same seller.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Customized-KC60-60-Kit-Plastic-Case-Switches-Plate-Led-Stabilizers-for-60-Standard-ANSI-Mechanical-Keyboard/32629156371.html

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Got this bad boy for 3 years already, mx reds.

Now I am looking to replace the cable with something sleeved (or maybe do it myself? dunno), the keycaps and while disassembled give it a proper cleaning.

I spilled coke once on the board and the area under the keycaps is pretty nasty, can't clean it using conventional methods so I figured using 99% isopropanol might clean the whole PCB.

Anyone got experience with this? And any good recommendations for a white on black keycap set?

after looking around on prices, this seems to be the best value for money where i live http://www.coolermaster.com/peripheral/keyboards/masterkeys-pro-s-white/
All the enthusiast brands dont get sold at local online stores where i live and would cost extra to import.

Anyone recommend the "Glorious Modular RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard" ?

Ducky One or Ducky Shine 6?

>>61471601
dumbshits probably just think it because outemus come on cheap boards that they don't bother to put decent keycaps on

>>61445932
No they don't

>>61445587
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162596255602?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

there you go anon

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>>61448609
They are worth it my dude

Are the originative co pbt carbon black oem considered good quality keycaps?

test[\code]

i got the ducky one but it has side printed keycaps which is really gay imo so can anyone recc me some good black pbt caps possibly with a dope legend

do they have keycaps with the filco legend on them?

>testing
         tes
    t

>>61454454
do they have a black edition?

>>61480234
gaterons or vortex

>never use numpad
>get 65% board
>make numpad layer
>actually start using numpad because it's kinda comfy
huh

>>61480832
FULL SIZE FAGS BTFO

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>mechanical keyboards ship with menu keys
Why?

>>61482063
then get one that doesn't have them

>>61482088

Examples?

>>61482094
Kmac ii
:^)

>>61482063
Just remap the thing and maybe put a keycap on it. Are you such a burger consumer that you can't change these shits yourself?

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>>61482063
Just get a Ducky One since you can configure the bottom row

>>61482575
He posted an anime image. That should've been enough for you to figure out

>>61482626
>3 dips per key
>7 keys
What the FUCK

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I'm thinking of buying a Pok3r.
Any other keyboards that you would recommend over this one?
If so, why?

>>61482878
code 61, same keyboard, +1 yr warranty, backlighting

>>61482945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55rgAlpQg_s
Seems a little big.

>>61482775
>2^3
Its not that hard

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>>61483395

Is there any way to mount plate switches on a PCB board without fucking up alignment?

Just got my first mechanical keyboard - filco ninja majestouch 2..
What's a good key remapping software to use for Windows?

>>61484057
autohotkey

>>61484029
Dude it fucking legos. The switches only go in one way

>>61482878
>>61482945
Bleh, it has ABS keycaps though. The Pok3r gets you "proper" PBT.

>>61484057
Autohotkey like the other anon said, or you can buy this.

https://1upkeyboards.com/filco-pegasus-hoof-controller.html

>>61484586
fair enough, wasd also has the vp3 you can get the pok3r without caps if you already have them or want to put the money towards a better/different set.

personally the 1 yr extra warranty and backlighting is worth more than buying a set of pbt keycaps(but i had some already to be fair)

>>61484627
If the warranty is all that important why not buy a poker from ducky agents