Hello /g/. So I'm thinking about moving to Windows 10 from

Don't download shit for shaddy websites, block scripts for unknown / non trusted sites and you'll be fine, no need for any anti virus botnets.

If you do torrent games and stuff, just install malware bytes

Why are you switching to windows though?
You could you just run it in a VM.

>>61431107
>I'm thinking about moving to Windows 10 from GNU/Linux.

Being this retarded though.

>>61431107
Download a bunch of distros that look good and try them in a live USB.
No need to wipe out your hard drive.

Noob friendly distros:
All of the official ubuntu forks
ElementaryOS
Solus OS

>>61431762
>I have the reading comprehension of a 3yr old.

RIP.

>>61431107
>Is Windows security really that weak that it needs a Windows Defender?
Yes, and after wannacry it won't be enough (unless you use Common Sense 2017)
>How bad is Linux Subsystem for Windows?
Broken as fuck

>>61431107
i see no reason to do this other than for video games. if you're not playing windows-exclusive games, you should be running a linux distro. end of story.

>>61431107
>I'm not actually a linux user.

>caveats
Questionable resource utilization is the primary one. In some ways it's "intelligent" about the programs you run most often, but in general it's a hog.

>Is Windows security really that weak
Well yes, but in ways that Windows Defender doesn't really address anyway. I think Defender's only real value is in the firewall/network protection functions. The antivirus is a wash. The whole device health aspect is actually a major annoyance and does nothing but force certain settings on you through nagging.

>Am I safe
Somewhat.

>How bad is Linux Subsystem
Fairly bad. You're fine if you want to run some simple scripts or terminal-based packages though.

>Anything else
You're going to notice your system running horribly slowly for the first ~30 minutes after your initial boot into Windows. Don't be alarmed. The best thing you can do is simply sit back and watch TV or something. It's perfectly normal and will pass. It only happens on the very first boot.

You should also worry about the Start menu. It's a mess no matter how much you try to clean it up. Classic Shell is a godsend.

Where can I find a copy of windows 10?

>>61431863
Are you a babby? Windows is necessary for viable CAD and video production software.

>>61431941
Microsoft provides both the installer (free download) and licenses online.

>>61431884
this

nobody whose used a *nix system for more than a week would SWITCH to a windows system; it's an asinine thing to do regardless given the variety of other options available

>>61431701
It's complicated. Generally I found myself spending too much time maintaining the system instead of actually being productive.

Like right now I have cracklings through pulseaudio equalizer after Debian upgrade. I need an equalizer and it seems like it is not maintained anymore. Right now it annoys me the most and rather spending hours hoping it has a fix I think I might spend this time moving to WIndows.

GPU acceleration in Chrome doesn't work for some websites.

Real mess with mime types and default applications. Debian has BROWSER variable in bash profile, update-alternatives, couple of places for mimeapps.list.

Similar shit with appearance. There is no single place to put my theme/font/hinting configuration. There are different places for qt4, qt5, gtk2 and gtk3 configurations.

DE would somewhat solve some of those problems, but I don't use a DE. I was really happy with my xmonad setup (best window management I've had so far), but integrating xmonad with a DE has some caveats depending on a DE. gnome-settings-daemon doesn't work at all, mate-settings-daemon messes with DPI i've set through nvidia config (using high-dpi display). Sometimes I use a second monitor and I can't set the different DPI for each of them.

I'm pretty sure all of the problems mentioned have a solution, but I'm just tired and I don't want to mess with it. I just want things to work. I want to share my Downloads directory with another computer without complicated samba setup - last time I used it there were problems with sharing arbitrary user directory regarding ownership. I want to click and run Lightworks instead of searching forums for the libraries I need to download and put somewhere. I want to configure my trackball buttons with a nice GUI instead of blindly messing with xorg.

I'm just tired and I want to do stuff instead of messing with the system.

Cons:
Botnet
Pros:
Everything else

>>61432048
>Using Debian

There is your problem.

>>61431107
>windows 10
>google chrome
Enjoy your botnets faggot.

>>61432376
Implying any other distro doesn't have exact same problems.

>>61432438
Using another distro, not having those problems.

>>61432048
>I'm just tired and I want to do stuff instead of messing with the system.
Congrats on finally growing up. Using a computer to play pretend hackers is embarrassing and a waste. Just try to forget you were ever like that. You're doing better than at least half the board now.

i FUCKING LOVE WINDOWS 10 , fuck linux Id rather not care about my OS and just be productive. The NSA/CIA can spy on you through any OS.

>>61432404
Chrome is for dummys, use opera

>>61432508
4chan is 18+ buddy. Come back in 6 years. Or don't you'll probably end up happier.

>>61432472
I hope one day modern medicine will be able to cure you of this utter retardation.

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>>61431107
This>>61431678
For the most part you should be good with the usual common sense. There is some aspects of spyware that Microsoft has in windows 10 in there settings and some more hidden bullshit in the registry so i'd look up the fix on that if you're concerned on that end. But then again windows in general isn't the best place for privacy linux always has been. But as original op said as long as its just simple stuff even torrenting. You should be solid. And if you're a gamer you should be better with more updates, and games that are compatible on windows so there's that. So happy trails friend :)

>>61432533
It's okay, man. You don't have to be ashamed anymore. You've stopped using your computer as little more than a roleplaying prop to play pretend hackers with, and that's a good thing. You can stop feeling concerned with how the other "hackers" are going to see you, and worry about just using your computer.

everything on windows is cancer

the sooner you understand that the better

even normies hate it, im not sure the reason smartphones are popular these days and desktops are down isn't just due to windows sucking

windows is about running software that only runs on windows. that is all that is good about windows. the rest of your experience is simply trying to live with the cancer

>changing basic settings etc a complete nightmare, despite linux being the supposedly less friendly ui
>muddled update system, no version number
>updates will stall shutdown and/or constantly annoy you
>system folders aren't well separated from user folders, all of the file explorer is a big clusterfuck
>making your way around it is a nightmare, you must use the search because you'd never find anything otherwise
>botnet
>bloatware, random shit you don't remember installing
>ads on the start menu
>not even ms knows what the ui is supposed to look like

>>61432528
Are you one of the fags always searching for a faster safer way to browse 4chan and DL game of thrones? Also opera is good AF.

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>>61432556
>being this salty that your abortion of an OS will never gain any real server marketshare.

If you can't figure out how to use a real OS there is always one like the pic for little babies like you.

>>61432606
>maybe if i make it look like i was trolling before, no one will notice how badly that anon's comments got to me
Hey, it might work.

>>61432580
You replied to the wrong person you fucking spastic.

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>>61432606
So Fucking asshurt that you have reply to my post made for the op :/

>>61432618
Not even trolling. If you fucking windows retards can't work out how to use an actual Operating System you cunts may as well stop using a computer altogether.

>>61432629
>post made for OP
>was a reply to a post by me
>Be me
>not OP

Please don't breed.

>>61431107
The caveats are that it actually fucking works.

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>>61431107

>>61432634
>everyone who realizes that i'm just a know-nothing kiddo using gnu/linux to live out juvenile "hackerman" fantasies is a windows retard
I thought you GNUcucks were supposed to have a firm grasp on logic?

>>61432647
>GNUcucks

mfw I'm not running GNU software.

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>>61432643
Wow go back 5th grade. If i ever have to see that type of grammar again i'm going to hurl.

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>>61432651
mfw you try to pretend you're not a mactoddler

>>61432657
>Bitching about bad grammar while using bad grammar.

Wew lad.

>>61432668
Not sure if trolling or just retarded.

>>61432670
Look how broken down you've become. This is why G is fucking joke; literal hacker wannabes that act all tough behind a screen and insult people that come here for help. Just stfu you larping 10 year old.

>>61432606
You seem mad that Linux lost another user, why is it so personal to you? Do you have sand in your vagina, do you need a wet nappy?

>>61432668
Please stop giving Linux users a bad name.

>>61432687
That's one less person for him to "hack the planet" with on IRC.

ITT: Shills justifying paying hundreds of dollars to be spied on.

Stop the planet, I want off.

Unrelated, but I was wanting to setup a xen garden for a windows 7 machine that can run inside of a linux distro
Which distro is best for what I am describing if I have full VM passthrough?

>>61432732
Fedora.

>>61432730
No, it's "hack the planet" you fucking hapless technoweenie. You can't play pretend hackers with us until you've seen the movie at least once, and have Linux installed.

>>61432736
Fuck off you Linux freaks. Windows fucking works so why would anyone want to install an OS made by basement dwellers?

>>61432735
If you don't mind me asking
Is this a real answer or sarcasm?

>>61432736
Holy shit just shut the fuck up.

>>61432755
>gotta use gadzooks/lunatix to look like a special snowflake hackermanz, but i can't live without muh gaymes

>>61432755
sarcasm

>>61432755
It was a serious answer. While I don't actually have experience with what you're doing I have researched it a good bit as I was planning something similar. It seems that most people suggested Fedora because it's up to date and their virtualisation support is tops.

>>61432758
Then get it right, you n00b.

lol "stop" the planet
How can you fk it up that bad?

>>61432778
Did your mother drop you on your head when you were little?

>>61432786
I'm not the one who can't even quote a movie right, n00bl0rd.

>>61432791
>trolling this badly

School over for the day m8?

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>>61432791
Pls keep talking cause you're giving me more entertainment than you really should. But please by all means continue to make yourself look like an even bigger retard than i thought you to originally be. But good job you managed to completely fuck up the thread thank you so much :/

>>61431955
>LibreCAD
>Cinerella

>>61432833
>completely fuck up the thread thank you so much :/
Yeah, that was the idea. If I let a thread like this go on for very long at all then it devolves into a 300+ post shitfest of anime desktops and hacker roleplaying.

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>>61432853
Pls keep talking tell me more; tell me how it makes you feel that you've completely fucked up my thread, derailed it off course from its original purpose. Luckily i did get what i wanted from it before you showed up and utterly destroyed it. But PLS TELL ME WHAT YOU GOT FROM FUCKING IT ALL UP!!!!????

>>61432876
Am I supposed to stop posting now because you're pretending to be some falseflagging wojak poster? Yeah, that's not gonna work. I'm going to be here all day making sure this thread stays derailed.

>>61432876
>>61432891
Wow you people are aids.

>>61432891
Pls by all means now that you've scared off all the sane people how do you entail to keep derailing its literally just you and me. And you're my entertainment for the night so keep going dumbass.

>>61432911
This is the /g/ you wanted. I'm just giving it to you.

One more question for you guys: how is safe to steal software from trackers? Like thepiratebay, kickass and rutracker. Do they often put cryptolockers and such stuff into keygens and installators?

>>61432924
>maybe if i make it seem like he's doing what i want he'll go away

lol naw

>>61432911
Fuck you dude.

>>61432941
Well i want you here dude until the end. It's like a sick co op parasite system we both need each other so pls stay.

>>61432938
If you can't outhack Russian ransomware you don't belong on this board, newfag. Leave.

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>>61432634
You're cute, but isn't it bedtime already for kids?

>>61432958
Yeah, I wasn't going anywhere. All pathetic attempts at reverse psychology notwithstanding. You're not the only retard I have on hook in this thread anyway. It'd be a waste to leave.

>>61432960
I fucking ask a simple question and get told to fuck off. Ok thanks.

>>61432974
You're not fucking off nearly fast enough, kiddo.

>>61432967
Seriously dude fuck you! You derail my thread for no fucking reason. Then all you have are these 5 year old insults this is why /g/ is a fucking joke.

>>61432984
How many more people are you going to pretend to be in this thread? That post timer is really fucking you up right now.

>>61432960
>outhack Russian ransomware
How is that?

>>61432991
Wow assumptions up the ass.

>>61432938
you dont have to steal shit, win10 has tons of freeware

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>>61432991
>>61432984
>>61432965
>>61432924
>>61432876
Shut the fuck up Wasting this shit on a stupid slide thread sage this shit.

>>61433021
no

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Am I late for the Razor & Blade Show? Or is the roleplaying over now? ;_;

>>61433031
No this dumbass>>61433021
won't stfu

>>61433016
That's not an answer to my question.

>>61433038
But you are that dumbass. Seems like there's a simple solution to your problem.

>>61433050
Then go fuck yourself. Were not here to hold your hand either your a hacker or your not.

>>61432404
>>61432522
>Not using BRAVE browser
C U C K
U
C
K

Holy shit wtf is wrong with you autist?

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>>61433074
He doesn't know :/

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>>61433056
>>61432991
>>61432979
>>61432967
>>61432945
>>61432941
Fucking baited :)

>>61431107
>What are the caveats?
Less control over your system, botnet
>I know about mandatory update issues and telemetry, but my main concern is security.
Loonix fags will tell you what a mess it is, and it can be, but since implementing UAC a literal decade ago the problems have been curtailed dramatically. Usual advice about separate user and admin accounts still stands even though most software under admin will only elevate with a prompt.
>Is Windows security really that weak that it needs a Windows Defender?
It's built-in antimalware and nothing more. Don't misunderstand.
>Am I safe if I receive updates right away (like I have choice, have I?) and don't run any suspicious software with escalated through UAC rights?
Yes. That's common sense.
>How bad is Linux Subsystem for Windows?
Don't know, tech press seems to like it though.
>Anything else I should be worried about?
Perhaps if you've formatted any drives with something other than FAT/ExFAT/NTFS. Drivers are available, can't attest to their quarity.

>>61432579
>updates will stall shutdown
why is that a con?

>>61431965
Licenses are not free, however. If you Google a bit, it's not difficult.

>>61431107
>Windows 10 is no longer supported in this PC
... I didn't thought that was possible, like, at all.

>Is Windows security really that weak that it needs a Windows Defender?
Common_sense_2017.exe works just fine too, so not really.

>Am I safe if I receive updates right away (like I have choice, have I?) and don't run any suspicious software with escalated through UAC rights?
You can always use LTSB and block the updates right after the OS' running.

>>61432050
>Everything else
It's a buggy shitshow. The shutdown (hibernation) is worse than on my linux rig.

>>61432651
What is bash? There you go.

OP reporting in.

Linux Subsystem is kinda useless. I can't edit anything from Windows. chmod/chown doesn't work - despite changing anything I can't access my ssh config I took from Linux installation. Can't run X although that was expected.

Thinking of a single use case for that shit. Virtual machine is better in every way.

>>61435553
Linux Subsystem is still in beta. It will improve (probably).

>>61431107
Only retards get viruses, seriously Ive disabled automatic updates, telemetry and windows defender and yet my system is clean.
Forget about the settings "app" use the group policy if you can, much better control over your system.

>How bad is Linux Subsystem for Windows?
It's actually not that bad, it works pretty great here.

>>61431107
>(like I have choice, have I?)
You have a week to install updates normally. If you keep postponing, Windows will eventually force you to reboot in the middle of your work.
>Is Windows security really that weak that it needs a Windows Defender? I never needed any GNU/Linux defenders
No one writes viruses for desktop Linux.
>How bad is Linux Subsystem for Windows?
Depends on what you're trying to do with it. It works for most shell programs, but don't think you'll be running a desktop UI or any sort of server outside of testing.

>>61435624

tfw been using windows for years and never been forced automatic updates

>>61432438
>Implying any other distro doesn't have exact same problems.
Start by not using a server distro on a desktop machine.

>>61431885

what is classic shell friend ?

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>>61432472
>>61432556

top keke

>>61432048
You're making a good choice. Linux on the desktop is completely dead. You basically learned why every respectable person that actually needs a "Unix" desktop uses macOS.

Just install Windows and use some common sense and everything will work fine.

>>61435815
I've used many flavors of Linux. They all basically divide into bleeding edge and LTS, other differences are substantial. Non of it fits my needs.

To be honest, the most comfortable OS for me was OS X. Haven't used it since Mavericks though, maybe it's shit nowadays. Anyway, even if I could afford it, Mac Pro price is just ridiculous.

>>61431107
Do NOT use anything less than Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB N. It completely strips out bloatware and leaves you with just the bare minimum for the sake of security updates. You get none of the Creator Update shit.

>>61432048
>cracklings through pulseaudio equalizer
works on my machine™, works on various machines on both debian stretch and sid
its not the operating systems fault the user cant do simple things right, it just werks for me

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>>61432472
This. 99.9% of the people on /g/ are only using Linux for roleplaying. They don't actually know shit beyond what's required for screenshot threads.

Speaking off, my dad just bought a shitty laptop with win 10 on it, what is the best easiest way to disable updates without having a pro edition and stuff like that?

>>61431107
>Am I safe if I receive updates right away (like I have choice, have I?)
You'll be safe from remote exploits (mostly, there's always a possibility you'll get hit with a 0day but those are usually used for corporations and governments), but not from malware in general.

>and don't run any suspicious software with escalated through UAC rights?
No, if you run a malicious program under an administrator account then it's game over. UAC bypass is trivial in Windows.

>How bad is Linux Subsystem for Windows?
I use it for nasm/gcc and local webserver (nginx) testing and haven't had any problems. It's generally pretty good these days.

>>61431837
>Yes, and after wannacry it won't be enough
Wannacry was not a problem for people who installed updates, retards who were using outdated operating systems and/or didn't install security patches were affected.

>>61436002
>/g/ bitches about updates
>wannacry happens
>/g/ still doesn't understand why updates are forced

>>61431107
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61436022
This. So much motherfucking this!

>>61432606
MS has a significant portion of server OS market share, especially when it comes to webservers. What are you talking about?

>>61436022
Precisely, MS needs to force updates because retards with a phobia of restarting will postpone forever if given the option, and then cry when they get pwned by an exploit that was patched months ago.

>>61435706
Using Win10? What's the longest you've delayed installing updates?

>>61436022

why are they forced ?

>>61436022
If Microsoft would stop writing the shittiest C++ imaginable maybe they wouldn't need to bother their users with mandatory security updates every two days.

Really shocking that a company with an army of Pajeets can't write reasonably secure C++.

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>>61436086
not him but it's as simple as disabling the reboot task in the task scheduler on Win10

>>61436107
It wouldn't matter. People have update phobia.
>muh kompyuter werks, y i want to update????/
t. Desktop support in EduIT

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>>61436034
You're missing the picture mate

>>61436107

This. Unfortunately Bill left his company in the hands of a bunch of money grubbing incompetents while he's trying to catch AIDS in Africa.
Unfortunately we're left with not real choice as Windows is the only real OS available for the PC.

>>61433050
If in your country is ok to download torrents, then you'll be fine

>>61436107
Windows just needs to move on from NT, it's a convoluted mess that's just been hacked together over the decades. It's no wonder there's so many holes in it. Unfortunately MS is deathly afraid of breaking backwards compatibility in the slightest and we're probably stuck with NT forever.

>>61436252
They need to modularize. They've started in earnest, but the need to make it #1 priority.

OP is blogging on.

Everything going smooth so far: got a somewhat decent window management through Plumb (autotiling), Aquasnap (shortcuts for tiling) and Dexpot (proper desktop management). bug.n and HashTWM doesn't work very well, so I ended up with this combination.

One problem I'm concerned with is that Emacs won't show pictures. I've put all the required dlls into bin folder and it still doesn't work. gnu.org suggests trying other builds, but I'm not sure which one to start with - https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq-w32/Other-useful-ports.html#Other-useful-ports

>>61432048
I use a customized version of Arch with FVWM and dvtm + abduco, etc, and am able to still accomplish the tasks associated with work. It's not for everyone and I do respect your decision since it does have the tendency to prevent others from obtaining a desired level of productivity.

What are the packages of PulseAudio you have installed? Since ALSA packages are installed by default, perhaps use Arch. Though it would probably require more time from you but at least solving technical problems in Arch is easier than messing with all the installed mess in Debian.

>>61431955
Not if we all switch and demand same on Linux.

I'm currently on 7, and on the fence about LTSB N.
Is it better performance wise?
Is there still spyware in this version, and if so, how effective is Spybot Anti-Beacon?

>>61439514
I was able to accomplish any tasks, but in the end it just more time consuming than it could be. I've spent a reasonable amount of time discovering GNU/Linux and learned a lot of useful stuff out there. Now I want to see how everything works on the other side. I might as well return back if I won't like it.

>What are the packages of PulseAudio you have installed?
Those which came with Debian 9. It was fine in Debian 8, not sure what's the problem was. I've used Arch for about a year and enjoyed it the most, but bleeding edge has some cons. Package updates often fix things and as often introduce new bugs or change the way software works. I've switched to Debian because I wanted a completely still, robust system and it did the job fairly well in that regard. But yes, solving any problem in Arch is far easier than in Debian. Arch wiki is the best and helps a lot even using any other distro.

>>61438060
Ended up using bug.n. Plumb has unchangable shortcuts which interfere with the rest of the stack and bug.n replaces the stack altogether successfully mimicking my xmonad config to some extent.

>>61431803
Same - who the fuck moves from Linux to Windows?

>>61431107
Use a premium antivirus, or at least pirate one if you're a cheapo, always keep 'Sandboxing' enabled. You're good to go, nothing can touch you.

>>61435565
Will take a long time. Better off with Windows in a VM.
>>61435941
I'd be more worried about the crap the manufacturer stuck in that laptop. If there's anyone worse than M$, it's the OEMs and their junk programs.
>>61436022
>wannacry
Only a problem for retards and Umaru faggotry. There's a reason it's called wannacry.
>>61438060
>dexpot
mah nigga
>>61439625
LTSB N is without the microsoft media player/center meant for europeans after europe sued the shit out of microsoft
LTSB is ok, you don't need to get N

>>61441943
>LTSB N
What about the spyware? I assume that's still included but easier to remove?

>>61442330
Can't be entirely removed. Portions of it are clearly baked into windows 10, what exactly is baked is very vague because it's proprietary. I could fucking hear my fans ramping up on LTSB 10 vanilla during idle compared to windows 7 Ultimate vanilla on idle despite having the same autistic fan settings on both installs.
If I had to install LTSB 10 again I would have to thoroughly prune services, group policy, and regedit for bloat.

>>61432606
Your pic related is way better than Linux.
So what's the points of your comment?

>>61442453
So you're on windows 7 too at the moment?
I'll probably just stick with it at this point.

>>61442496
Yeah, I'm sticking with 7 on desktop.
On fresh 7 SP1 you only needed to:
disable the media player and all associated services with it
kill the maintenance tasks that are linked to WEI because that eats CPU like a pig
go through task scheduler turning off MS garbage like WEI and media player
go through msconfig startup to untick any unnecessary programs
install the standalone hotfix for HDDs with more than 2TB causing boot slowdowns
From there it's smooth sailing and everything else is cosmetic tweaks.
On 10 the necessary pruning has more than doubled.

>>61435939
>This. 99.9% of the people on /g/ are only using Linux for roleplaying. They don't actually know shit beyond what's required for screenshot threads.
what's the matter? couldn't figure out what's required for screenshot thread?

>>61441878
What if my Common Sense 2018 wont let me pirate an antivirus software?

>>61442748
I see. Thanks.

>>61442811
inb4 wats neofetch pls give fonts gib colors

>>61442851
Firewall up, either stealth or disable ports, and disable all services that have nothing to do with videogames.

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>>61431762

>>61431107
1. Install Windows 10
2. Install Common Sense 2017
3. Install VMWare/Virtualbox
4. Install Antergos in the virtualised environment
5. Setup shared folder and install ClamAV inside Arch box
6. ???
7. Do risky stuff inside VM, download torrents and scan them using ClamAV on Arch before running them on Windows.

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>>61441878
>2017
>using an antivirus
Are you fucking serious? Use a Firewall at least, but antivirus are worthless

>>61435939
I think you overestimate people's willingness to role play and underestimate their state of poverty. I get most of the Linux fetishism here is because these spergtaku basement dwellers can only afford cucktastic laptops on which nothing runs as smoothly as Linux. They also can't afford many gaymez so all the more reason to not be on Windows and be shitposting in /g/ and watching animu instead.

To me, Linux is seems doomed for work instead of for play (if your work is C programming, particularly -- that's why I use and like it). I want to skip the surly bonds of the botnet completely, but until I ascend to a mental state wherein enjoying quality video, audio, and gaymz is sufficiently deprecated, I'll always need a Windows "media" machine. :c

>>61443962
Sry typos due to autocomete on phone cuz b&d

>>61431107
lets get real for a moment. You install windows 10 in about 45 minutes and for most linuxes its about the same but remember. Biggest base linuxes are about 1 gigabytes or 2 while windows 10 can be more than 5 gigabytes of data. And what happens when you open them. On the linux there are about 2 functional buttons, 3 are nonfunctional and in those two buttons there are some pictures to play with. Maybe slide down or up. On windows though, you feel like a god. Its professional its fast, its all functional. You have a godlike user interface. The thing that the linux does not have. You have those two buttons in the linux, but you still search google for codes to write in terminal. Linux is free because its not worth a penny. Nobody would sell a paper without taking the money. Just not sure why people still buy android while windows phone does 10 times more. Trust me. When you work with windows you know some genius ground breaker dedicated himself to give you an operational os

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>>61444056
What'd you do?

>>61444924
Rebel

>>61432048
use ubuntu + gnome