/hpg/ - Headphone General

*snap*

>Budget
40€
>Location
EU (Germany)
>Source
Mobile phone
>Type of headphone
in ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
idc
>Past headphones
shitty 14€ ones

also i need a integrated headset for telephony

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61424603
HD580

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>>61424569
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>Budget
100~ USD
>Location
US
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
N/A
>Comfort level
Decent
>Sound signature
Don't care
>Past headphones
ATH-M50, HD 558

I want something for when I'm out, preferably with a microphone.

>>61424713
>>61424603
580 > 600. 580 came first.

>>61424776
>"coming last loses"
The cookie game?

>Budget
<$1000
>Location
USA
>Source
mobile devices (bluetooth)
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed with ANC
>Comfort level
24hr of nonstop comfort
>Sound signature
flat

I need a good travel pair of headphones, specifically for train rides and loud buses.

>>61425030
MDR1000X

>>61425127
they aren't comfy enough, ear cups are too shallow and made my ears hot within the 20min I tried them in store.

>>61425173
QC35?

>>61425173
Have you tried Sennheiser momentum 2.0?

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>>61425196
>bose
>/g/
Wow buddy you really like to push your luck

>>61425196
Really comfortable when I demoed them in store but they sounded slow and muddy without an EQ.
>>61425204
I'll try them out, thanks. I'm expecting good sound from them but hopefully the ANC works as well.

>>61425030
maybe ATH-MSR7NC? I have the non-noise cancelling ones and I really like them. Don't know how good the ANC is on them tho.

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>>61425030
>ANC

>>61424763
Shure SE215, Etymotic MK5, MEE M6 Pro

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>>61425407
T R A V E L
R
A
V
E
L

>>61425594
Etymotic ER-4SR will simultaneously block out even more sound (5-15 dB more than QC35) than ANC headphones will sounding massively better.

>>61425455
>MEE M6 Pro

Thanks I just ordered a pair a minute or two ago, appreciate it.

>>61425265
Already know they're botnet, just wanted to toss the suggestion since they're the only other 'good' ANC option.
>>61425626
XR if you want more bass.

>>61425626
Did you even read my request? I don't want a wired solution and I don't want an IEM. Yes its better I know that but it's not for me.

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>>61425873
>I don't want a wired solution

>>61425626
>retard ear dildos
Freak.

>>61426048
...because of how I travel. I keep my device in my bag and walk backcountry roads and take the bus when I get to town. A cable would snag on trees and bushes as I walk by, and there is no way to tether it without limiting my movement.

Hello /hpg/
Where could i find some replacement Earpads for my Philips SHB7250?
couldn't find original replacement and i'm not sure if ordering a generic one from ali will do any good.

>>61426280
Even clipping the cable to your collar with a headphone cable clip and running it under your shirt?

>>61426280
>responding to the shitposter
Report and ignore, friendo.

For my European friends
HD598 130 euro
https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B0042A8CW2

What are the best cheapos you can buy that will be ruined within a month via use while working out and aren't in-ear?

>>61427539
VE Monk Plus

>>61427539
Koss KSC75

>>61427572
>KSC75
Had a pair. They don't actually hold to the ear. They are too awkward for active use.

ATH M50x or HD 698

>>61427654
558, or 598

>>61427599
Works fine for me. I just bent the metal clips.

>>61425127
>MDR-1000X

https://community.sony.com/t5/Headphones/Sony-MDR-1000X-left-side-of-bracket-broken-in-10-days/td-p/613977

>>61427768
What other decent sounding ANC headphones are there then?

>>61424594
>>Type of headphone
>in ear
>>Open or closed
>open

wat

>>61424603
599 obviously

>>61426741
The cable still needs to go around into my backpack, its doable but really annoying to set up. You need to keep is tight enough so there isn't any extra hanging cable but loose enough so you can freely move your body.
It only really works when I wear a fanny pack since I can run the cable straight down my shirt.

>>61427809
>decent
>ANC

>>61428212
Exactly, tgat's why I recommended MDR1000X and QC35. Pick your poison.

>>61427909
>not just using a Clip+ clipped to your pants
>2017
>not having bought a Clip+ before they were discontinued

>>61427599
t. earlet

>>61428226
Honestly the QC35 is a better option. The only flaws are it being too linear sounding and the optional botnet app. The app is only needed to update firmware and adjust the noise cancellation so once you update you can delete it.

>>61428425
>being too linear sounding
wat

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>>61427873
isine 10

>Budget
$600-$700, a little flexible here, but definitely willing to pay less if that's all that's really needed
>Location
US
>Source
Mobile phone, maybe a decent external DAC if I'm feeling extra fancy
>Type of headphone
custom molded IEM
>Open or closed
closed. super high isolation welcome, even if sound can't be "perfect"
>Comfort level
high
>Past headphones
- Beyer DT 880: loved these, but not relevant to what I'm looking for now
- Etymotic ER6: great sound, awesome isolation, but a little too snug. incredible customer service when I was ordering a replacement part
- Sleek CT6 customs: comfy, good isolation, sounded decent, but the cables are shit and the gold contact plating wears off in like a year and costs $25 to replace

I'm looking for custom IEMs but don't know where I should be looking.
Don't (think I) care if they're silicon, acrylic, or whatever.
1 or 2 drivers is good enough for me.
Can't have shitty durability like my Sleeks, so screw-down cables or similar would be A-OK with me.

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>multi millionaire
>still uses these shit headphones
Why?

>>61428647
you can get custom molded tips for all IEM's IIRC. Not sure what to recommend, but just putting options out there. I have w40's which are incredible, but not custom.

>>61428647
>Beyer DT 880: loved these
>$600-$700, a little flexible here, but definitely willing to pay less if that's all that's really needed
You're in luck, since you can pay a lot less for shitty sounding treble cannons like the DT880.

>>61424594
maybe VE Monks?

>>61428647
I know fuckall about custom IEMs but try looking around here http://theheadphonelist.com/custom-in-ear-monitors-reviews-list/ to maybe get at least a general idea of what's out there

>>61428704
Sponsorship shekels.

Thinking about getting a leather head band cushion as a replacement for my old and worn stock one for my 880s, good idea or bad idea?

Does /hpg/ not like tube amps? Only tube amp I've ever heard was for guitars.

>>61428836
that's a nice list, thanks!

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>>61425196
>bose

>>61427654
>>61427704
HD579 is the one to get these days.
Better than HD599, and cheaper.

>>61428903
Audibly transparent solid state amps are more affordable and more reliable than audibly transparent tube amps. The only real reasons to buy a tube amp are if you subjectively enjoy the sound of even order harmonic distortion and can identify it reliably in a blind test and/or for driving rare super hard to drive electrostats. I cannot recommend tube amps to the average user.

>>61429046
Not worth the price for the 579 over the 558/598.

>>61429289
>over 598
Definitely worth it. Little price difference + noticeable improvement.
>over 558
Much more expensive, diminishing returns, the value vs price of 558 is much better
>over 599
579 has near-identical, possibly better (less bass, more treble, more neutral), and significantly cheaper.

>>61429324
The 598 can be found for a lot better prices sometimes, like how the 598SR was just going for $110 on Prime Day. I just saw that that 579 can be had for ~$100 for a "like new" one on Amazon, though. Not bad at all, but I'm not sure I'd prefer the FR of it.

>>61429448
It's not hard to find reviews of HD599; It's generally considered better. I prefer HD598, said no one ever.
HD579's reviews are harder to come by, but the general opinion is that it's a HD599 without some flaw on strong bass overtaking everything else. The FR shows them as virtually identical, and the HD579 is way cheaper, making it very appealing as a candidate.

The only headphones you need are the HD600s

>>61428704
He came to hpg recently and showed his amazon account
He bought some 500$ wooden headphones. He probably doesn't know about amps though

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>>61429512 (you)

>>61424733
I just looked up your gear. Wow, +/- .1 dB accuracy on that Modi is fantastic! So transparent! Only a complete idiot would claim they could hear a 0.2 dB difference, so you must be proud of owning such accurate equipment.

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Idol trash goes to sleep.
Enjoy this random vid from million live theater days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM7J7HWi5YI

thinking of getting this headset: https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-TH-02-Closed-Studio-Headphones/dp/B00B1N06PO

thoughts?

>>61431597
Nice headphones if you have a big head though the stock pads are shit and the cable's attached.

>>61431608
could i do better for similar price? ($20-$30)

>>61431620


>Budget

>Location

>Source

>Type of headphone

>Open or closed

>Comfort level

>Sound signature

>Past headphones

Fill that shit senpai and you'll get the nut you need

>>61431641
my b my b

>Budget
$20-$30
>Location
United states
>Source
pc
>Type of headphone
headset
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
decent-good
>Sound signature
if it means sound quality then good to very good

>>61431671
Home use or for using outside?

Help me decide on which earbuds to get:

>SoundMAGIC E80
>Etymotic Research MK5

>>61432219
MK5, obviously.

>Budget
40 - 90 $
>Location
Canada
>Source
PC & Phone
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Willing to do both
>Comfort level
comfy af
>Sound signature
Monitor / Neutral
>Past headphones
SADES gaming headset off amazon

>>61432219
Etymotics are for fetishist degenerates. I'd suggest against them.

>Budget
$40 - $50
>Location
United states
>Source
desktop
>Type of headphone
headphone
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
good
>Sound signature
good

saw this will go on sell on daily deal for $29.99

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=26-380-030&utm_medium=Email&nm_mc=EMC-SD072017&cm_mmc=EMC-SD072017-_-SD071717-_-Item-_-26-380-030&et_cid=35187&et_rid=9933661&et_p1=&email64=c2hhbWk2MjQ4OEBnbWFpbC5jb20=

>>61432279
SHP9500

>>61432076
home use mainly , might take it outside to a friends place or to chill in a park once in a while though

>>61432331
thank sir, will take a look

>>61432331
is the SHP9500S any different? because its on sale on newegg

>>61432333
KSC75's are pretty good though open. Shouldn't leak too bad for home use and I've used PortaPros for commute. It's not bad in terms of leak for public use unless you want to blast it.

>>61432429
http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?40437-Difference-between-SHP9500-and-SHP9500S
Philips says they're identical.

Is anything that Schiit claims about multibit legit?

>>61432674
No, multibit is completely unnecessary.

>>61428704
He goes for style

Reminder that you can get a pair of any headphones and EQ them to sound like HD600, HD800, Utopia or anything. Among cheapest, most comfortable headphones is Philips SHP9500, anything above is meme placebo and you are literally trowing money out of the window.

>>61432728
SHP9500 sounds grainy. HD600/650 doesn't. If you're perfectly happy with your SHP9500, good. Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

>>61432696

https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/6nla0a/incoherent_bullschiit_the_spurious_myth_of/

I was reading this post, and it seems like Schiit went full placebo, but is there anything that multibit measures better at?

is there a better set of headphones for the price other than phillips shp9500s?

>>61432963
It's a "peace of mind" thing for confused people, and for at least 99% of people it isn't even worth worrying about. This doesn't directly relate to multibit, but please take the time to read these, if you haven't already:

http://ethanwiner.com/audiophoolery.html
http://ethanwiner.com/believe.html

>>61433156
HD558

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>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
desktop onboard through old pioneer stereo receiver headphone output
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
either, prefer closed, but open seems nice for comfort
>Comfort level
as much as possible, need to use them for hours on end
>Sound signature
not that big of a preference
>Past headphones
jvc ha-rx700
mostly want a new set because i ghetto rigged my current ones and they don't work too good anymore, as well as both of the pads have broken and don't stay on by themselves

>>61432674
I don't know whether it's legit or not but I do know that the best DACs in the speaker world like the MSB or dCS stuff are all sign magnitude designs.

>>61433715
>MSB
>best anything
lol faking measurements does not make something good

>>61433730
>faking measurements

Just like how Schiit is faking Yggdrasil's measurements?

>>61433730
You can check Stereophile measurements for numbers where the MSB Platinum IV is at least two orders cleaner than Schiit Yggdrasil.

>>61433759
where are schiit faking measurements? where are schiit even publishing measurements?

>>61433808
nobody said the yggdrasil was good, the MSB is just garbage, overpriced and made by a pedophile

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Forgive me /g/, for I have sinned.

Seriously though, I needed a set of ANC phones on short notice (about to fly to Japan), with a $200 budget, and these had the best reviews of anything I could get locally. How bad did I fuck up?

>>61433995
niggerbass bad

>>61434037
Yeah, the bass thing is stupid. They actually sound pretty decent with it turned off though, pretty comparable to my V6s if you account for bluetooth losses.

Also, what the fuck is with ANC and BT? There's pretty much shit for wired ANC phones out there these days unless you get bargain basement models or want to spend 350 on Bose.

>>61433759

I thought they made up fake claims about the Yggdrasil's filter (>>61432963), not fake graphs. They only published specs, and measurements were made by Stereophile and someone on Head-Fi/SBAF.

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Does anyone have any experience with the KZ ZS5's
I just got a pair of for $18 since I wanted a pair of cheap IEMs that I won't mind breaking or losing.

>>61427909
I'm amused at how triggered everyone is by wireless noise cancelling headphones.

I would try bose, just to trigger these autists further

>>61433492
At that price point Grado SR80e or MDR-V6 are good options.
SR80e are more 'musical' especially if you like the distinct punchy, warm coloured sound with forward mids. Grados are a very subjective taste dependant headphone, great for rock.
MDR-V6 are closed, less coloured than the SR-80's, analytical, bright, detailed and have tight bass but are a bit recessed in the lower mids.
Both are easy enough to drive without an amp.

>>61432963
That post is BS. It literally quotes schiit and then interprets it the opposite way.

It does so right from the very start, see:

>Schiit says: While there is no inherent phase shift within Parks-McClellan filters (note: as in most sigma-delta DACs), there is no optimization of phase either.
>proceeds to interpret as if schiit said their hw FUCKS WITH THE PHASE or does ANYTHING particular to it.
>Even despite the clarification "like most sigma-delta DACs"

There's no need to even read the rest of the post, it's full of shit.

>>61434912
>The actual Schiit post for reference
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/new-schiit-ragnarok-and-yggdrasil.667711/page-331#post-11396780

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>>61431586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrmQBU2XYNk

>>61434912
Note Parks-McClellan = std ones, not Schiit's.
Interestingly, Schiit makes no claims that their filter does otherwise, particularly not in the quoted sentence. The schiit hating guy simply chose to interpret it that way.

>>61433492
sam hyde-phones

>>61433910
>the MSB is just garbage, overpriced and
>made by a pedophile
wut

>The DAC is already great before people even hear it. It's like a few people "TOLD" you'll what to hear, and you heard it already without hearing it.
Succinct.
>https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/new-schiit-ragnarok-and-yggdrasil.667711/page-331#post-11397222

>>61435075
can't shortchange yourself on a good set of cans.

I lost one of the head pads for my ATH-AD700 in the airport yesterday and the model has been discontinued so I can't find a replacement part. Is there any DIY solution so that the arm doesn't drive into my skull or should I just snap it off?

>>61435248
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Replacement-ear-pad-Floss-For-ATH-AD700-AD900-Headphone-earpad-/261216906986

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Replacement-ear-pads-Compatible-for-Audio-Technica-ATH-AD900-ATH-AD700-ATH-AD500-ATH-AD1000-headsets/1756367_32646496055.html

I spent 3 seconds on google, I'm sure you can find them cheaper.

What are the most a e s t h e t i c headphones?

>>61435330
dt 880

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>>61435330
HD 4.30

>Budget
￥10,000-￥20,000, slightly flexible
>Location
Japan
>Source
Desktop and iPod
>Type of headphone
Headphones (IEMs are fine too)
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Decent
>Sound signature
Bassy but doesn't sacrifice the rest
>Past headphones
Audio Technica ATH-CKS77x IEMs - bass so heavy that you can feel it in your ears, but with decent sound on all other frequencies too. Sounded a bit too sibilant at times. They went out of production a few months ago, so prices are rising.

>>61435493
DT 770 PRO 32 Ohm
I'm not entirely sure if they can be found for under ￥20,000 but they're ideal.

Why does everyone worship Schiit? Their products are, as they imply, shit. They have no clue what they are doing and it shows since half of their garbage is fucking broken on launch and they have to do massive recalls to "fix" it all.

>>61429895
>he came to hpg recently
Why didn't you shill him on the HD800 as well as a high-end Amp/DAC?

Used Massdrop Objective 2 amp for $80 - is it good purchase?

>>61429895
>He probably doesn't know about amps though

What the fuck is there to know?
>SUPER SECRET WAYS OF AMPS

>>61429889
nah, I'd need another pair if I ever wanted to listen to anything with bass

>Budget
< $1000
>Location
Australia
>Source
Fiio E12
>Type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
probably open, but closed if they still sound good
>Comfort level
I'm looking for BUILD QUALITY and COMFORT over a particular sound signature, I can get used to how most different cans sound after a while
>Sound signature
Neutral to bassy
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD600
JVC SZ2000
JVC MAHR77X

>>61435072

>I did not read the entire post where Schiit is quoted

How can I split audio output from my PC to two different playback devices?

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>>61435988
If you're not looking for an audiophile solution a $2 splitter cable will work

>>61436026
Thanks!

>>61436026
Won't there be any problems? Because I've read on gearslutz that it will make -3db drop and some other distortions.

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>>61435012
Neat.

>>61436068
Audio quality issues like you've mentioned, yes.
The other option is to find or make a suitable amp or preamp with multiple outputs.

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>>61435638
>Why does everyone worship Schiit? Their products are, as they imply, shit.
I see what you did there :^)

>>61435638
it's schiit themselves who shill their products all over the internet

Sony ZX310 for $35AU, good deal?
Only be used for at home use, casual music and tv/movies from my laptop so I'm definitely not looking for audiophile headphones.

>>61435638
Redditors love their intelligent wicked sense of humor. Stay away.

>>61432674
No.
There are definite advantages to a multibit converter, even for audio use, but most people who ask have have an incorrect idea of what a multibit converter is. Schiit does not mention any of the real advantages that a multibit converter has over the single bit types.

>>61432963
DC signals and general stability, at least with any sort of 1-bit delta sigma design. Far less sensitive to clock error, and simpler reconstruction filtering required. These reasons and others are far abstracted from the listener. Delta sigma converters are not restricted to one bit either; there are probably more multibit ΔΣ converters these days than otherwise.

As an aside, ilkless knows little about signals. He is more interested in psychoacoustics.

>>61436977
>advantages
That are inaudible and multibit introduces other problems that cause it to measure worse than delta sigma.

>>61436999
Multibit and delta sigma are not mutually exclusive. Why would you think that?
If it helps, you can just think of delta sigma as noise shaping and oversampling converters, and the "multibit" converters as working fine at Nyquist rate.

The usual error involved with variations of ladder converters are matching errors and glitching. Transition to many-bit sign-magnitude and segmented string-ladder converters are intended to soften low level linearity errors, but still tend to greater spurs than the few-bit (ΔΣ) converters which can more easily compensate for matching errors.

If you want to shut down useless electronics chatter with psychoacoustics, the audibility concern is valid. Electronics design in general is not interesting as far audibility is concerned anyway.

>>61437408
>arguing semantics
Schiit makes the same distinction that I do. Let's not do this.

Either way, prove that the multibit mode measures better than a comparable delta sigma dac. Theory doesn't matter if the end result isn't any better.

>>61437441
*modi

The 6XX drop is back.

Anyone jumping on it?

>61437659
What's massdrop's shipping cost for Australia?

>>61437659
mASSdrop is a shit company

>>61437441
I have the impression that you have misinterpreted my words or simply do not understand.

The "theory" would suggest advantages a segmented converter (what Schiit uses) could possibly offer is with jitter susceptibility and processing cost, whereas a one (or few) bit ΔΣ would work better if computation were inexpensive and if matching parts were more difficult than creating a high stability clock source. That the latter is true is what made D-S converters dominate since the late 1980's.

I offer no defense of Modi Multibit because it is underperforming and overpriced, if the baseline is a common smartphone.
It performs like it was made back when designing a audio DAC that could offer 16 effective bits was a serious challenge, but with today's technology. Bad engineering, in short.

>>61428647
https://www.64audio.com/product/1964-A4-Custom-In-Ear-Monitor

>>61432674
Their cheapest multibit DAC is like 250 bucks with a return policy so why not buy one and compare it with the normal version instead of theorizing endlessly about it in a Mongolian throat chanting symposium.

Christ, /hpg/ is getting worse than r/headphones these days.

>>61434375
Hearing from a few others that have it, they're basically more V-Shaped Andromedas. The tips suck shit and are like hard plastic compared to a few other KZ's. They're better than ZST's and an overall improvement over ZS3's in it being closer to neutral than 3's and better imaging/soundstage than ZST's. Get new tips and you're good to go.

>>61438714
>Get new tips and you're good to go.
Thanks for the heads up.

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Does anyone have a clue why the used tubes? I don't think they did so just for the sake of presentation, they could have just as well put an iridium wires inside and a glowing crystal or something for presentation, altho it would probably not have same effect as tubes but it's a fucking 50k headphone so only rich arabs would get it, not even your most rabid audiophile so they wouldn't care to put whatever as long as they thought it's worth the performance.

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>>61434375
Yes. They are worst headphones I've ever tried. Bass is like you are swimming in pool full of shit, whole frequency response feels like retarded rollercoaster and makes you want to puke.
Also really uncomfortable.
They are my first and last meme chink headphones I've ever bought.

so what makes gaming headphones bad?

>>61432963
Sounds like the guy got an agenda against Schiit. Is this NwAvGuy reborn?

>>61439649
Sounds like a Schiit shill.

>>61438496
So essentially, schiits claims about their own DACs are false due to bad engineering, but a well implemented multibit DAC would present certain trade-offs. Is that what you're saying?

>>61439375
Gaming marketed headsets are usually shit in one or multiple ways including: Build quality, mic quality, sound, comfort, and price.

How good is the fulla 2

>>61440095
read it's tread on head fi
every second is faulty

>>61440095
Scratchy knob, EMI interference when you out your phone near it, loud popping on connect/disconnect, freaks out when you plug/unplug stuff slowly.
Good luck.

>>61440109
>>61440171
Nevermind then. Any other dac/amps with the same portability in the same price range you guys would recommend?

>>61440171
>EMI interference when you out your phone near it

Just wrap the fulla 2 in aluminium foil

>>61435089
http://kron4.com/2015/08/25/man-arrested-in-santa-cruz-county-for-sex-acts-with-two-of-his-daughters/
http://www.hmbreview.com/news/santa-cruz-man-pleads-no-contest-to-lewd-behavior/article_1ecb2e4a-fc41-11e5-82fc-0fa67bf6c928.html

>>61440549
Who's this person again?

>>61440095
Pretty good build. Good knob, no EMI unless you put your phone next to it (in which case good luck with any device).
Knob controls the signal directly, which minimizes damage to the signal. It also means it might be slightly scratchy when adjusting volume on a silent background; Not a concern.
Mine doesn't do it at all FWIW.

>>61440573
https://youtu.be/CdQcLqvKu-I?t=14s

Co-Founder, Ex-"General Manager"

Notice how his son "became CEO in 2016" even though they try to word his description like he founded the company

http://www.msbtechnology.com/team/jonathan-gullman/

>>61440636
Ouch.
Pedos aside, the promo vid doesn't give a good impression.

>>61440697
They just try to appeal to the bling bling gold world of audiophiles with made up numbers they don't understand, like a -190dB noise floor which physically isn't possible to measure.

>>61439712
>present certain trade-offs
In this day and age, the performance trade off is how many bits should your delta sigma converter have, 1 bit or more. The R-2R derived converters used in the Schiit and other DACs are the fringe loony players. Of course, they all still work if you assume good design, the R-2R would only be many times more expensive to implement for good enough performance.

Schiit doesn't really delve into the multibit mess themselves, and focuses more on the filters and coefficient calculation. It is just marketing copy and not a technical disclosure of the device, but it is pretty lousy to read.

>>61438993
It looks like the box is made out of Granite, which makes me ask; why? The headphones themselves could probably be sold for like $2500 so it really feels like they just wanted to jack the cost up for the sake of making them unaffordable.

What's the best headphone to listen to Idolmaster and lolicore on

>>61435248
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Headset-headband-pad-for-Audio-Technica-ATH-A1000-ATH-A900-ATH-A700-ATH-A500-ATH-A400/1756367_32644993933.html

>>61435304
Pretty sure he means the parts that go on the wing bits, not the earpads.

>>61425455
>Etymotic MK5
deprecated
MC5 are virtually the same, but with metal housing instead of plastic
MK5 are getting overpriced for memesales, go with MC5 for all recommendations toward this specific

>>61442891
>MC5 are virtually the same
No, they're not. The MK5 sound better and are more comfortable. The MC5 are pretty roundly disliked for a reason.

First time getting headphones, need your input, /g/ents.

I'm choosing between:

1. Sennheiser HD4.40BT
2. Phillips SHB9850NC
3. Ted Baker Rockall
4. JBL E45

My company could give me one of these, and i can choose.

Or should i just go for HD600? Or 598? Thanks.

>>61442891
MC5 are uncomfortable even for Etymotics. Let that sink in.

>>61443073
>confortable
>Etymotic

>>61443289
Let me revise my statement: the MK5 sound better and are less uncomfortable.

>>61443289
>>confortable
>IEM
I bet you feel confortable with a dick up your ass too

>>61443930
I don't use IEMs. They are for fetishist freaks, etymotics even more so.

>>61443930
HJE120 are really comfortable desu.

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i just want one of these with a bluetooth chip in it, is that too much to ask?

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>>61444447
>bluetooth audio

How much of an upgrade is the ATH-AD900x from the ATH-AD700?

>Budget
cheapest shit
>Location
US
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
anything but IEM
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
Decent
>Sound signature
different sound signature than dt770 80ohm
>Past headphones
beyer dt770 80ohms, portapros, bunch of iems, currently using Koss KSC75 for iem usage and beyer dt770 for over ear usage

I'm planning on getting either
1) Phillips SHP9500
2)Some kind of Superlux(most likely 668b)
3)Samson 850

>>61444495
oops also my source is Fiio X3 2nd gen/Fiio a1+computer
and also considering Superlux 330

>>61444494
Get an HD600.

>>61444495
Definitely the SHP9500; it's not even close.

>>61444481
some times i like to be untethered

>>61444494
Little more bass
>>61444495
SHP9500

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What's a closed alternative to the HD800 that I can get in the UK, and will work with my motherboard audio?

Been using my HD800's with onboard and they sound fine to me, I'm too poor and lazy for an amp setup, and I don't like how much sound they leak.

Anyone here have experience with the M1060? Are they really the best sounding headphones you can get for the price? I'm not so concerned about the build quality given I'll be using them exclusively at my desk, and I figure I can just return them if I have any issues

>>61444840
>Monoprice
They'll break as soon as the warranty expires.

>>61444552
>responding to the shitposter

>>61445073
Bluetooth audio will remain unacceptable until it is lossless.

>>61445294
Incorrect.

>>61445409
>stacking lossy codecs
Actually, that statement was correct.
>in b4 "isn't 300 some GB of FLAC enough storage space for you?"
No, it isn't.

>>61445450
Prove you can hear a difference of AAC 256 stacked on aptx-HD on your phone.

>>61445542
I'd prefer 192 kbps for saving storage space, and most people do things like use Youtube (128 kbps) on their phone.

>>61445553
>he can't do it
Well so much for that claim. Now stop making it.

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>>61445562
Bluetooth audio will remain unacceptable until it is lossless.

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>>61445597
>proven wrong
>i know, I'll just say it again! That'll make me right!

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>>61445611
>if I say he's proven wrong that means he's actually proven wrong
>I post images with horrific jpg artifacting

>>61445637
lossy to lossy~

>>61445637
Childish. I've demonstrated my point so there's no point in continuing this farce.
>now you'll post some more denial of reality and another smug anime girl

>>61445294
>>61445597

This.

>>61440215
Fiio e10k

>>61445611
This image's obvious artifacting is the jpg equivalent to lossy audio file playback over Bluetooth.

>>61446107
>literally treble rape

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My headphones make a hissing noise when plugged into my desktop amp. AMP is also plugged into shitty soundcard, if that matters.

>>61446184
Get an external DAC, obviously.

>>61446184
Schiit Fulla 2

>>61446184
Put the amp upside down

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>>61433995
>ANC headphones
why didn't you just get something like pic related and IEMs together?

>Budget
100€
>Location
EU
>Source
phone and PC
>Type of headphone
headphones
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
comfy af
>Past headphones
cheap coolermaster and xiaomi iem

>>61446367
SHP9500/SHP9500S

>>61444754
p-pls respond

>>61446398
they are discontinued

>>61446598
SHP9500S is not discontinued.

>>61446398
>SHP9500
im dumb I already have an HD6XX coming up along with an MDR7506 and K702

why do I want to get this? It's on newegg.ca for CAD$60

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>>61446107
The cropped head is a nice touch.

>Budget
100€ flexible, depends really, if I'm told I can buy something and keep it 10 years I can put more, like 200, but I'd find it hard to justify putting more if I can't even tell the difference.
>Location
France
>Source
The audio jack in front of my PC?
>Type of headphone
I don't know.
>Open or closed
I think I'd like to try closed as it probably means more comfort? Like not being able to hear anything going on outside.
>Comfort level
No idea.
>Sound signature
No idea.
>Past headphones
Some 20-30€ ones with a micro on it I've had for years now. Previous ones were also 30€ ones, and the ones before again 30€ ones. I've never owned anything fancy.

Thanks for reading.

>>61446762
Status CB1

>>61446762
https://www.amazon.fr/Sennheiser-HD600-casque-ouvert-hifi/dp/B00004SY4H/
A bit out of your budget, but that's the heirloom choice. Else,
https://www.amazon.fr/Sennheiser-HD-579-Casque-circum-auriculaire/dp/B01L1IIF1K/
Are easily going to last you a decade.
Of course, they're both comfortable and sound very good vs price.

>>61446762
>closed
Means there's a strong need for a tight seal, which means a sacrifice in comfort. It's also a sacrifice of sound, at a given price.

>>61443264
Tascam TH-02

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How do I increase the clamp force on my Snapheiser HD800? I can't move my fucking head backwards or forwards without them wanting to slip off.

>>61446830
>>61446883
Looking that up cheers.

>>61446904
I don't know much about these things. I thought closed one would be interesting since I do no live alone and tend to listen to music pretty loudly, which may be audible to others, especially in the evening or at night. I'm open to Open suggestions too if you guys think it'd also be worth it. Sorry for being clueless.

>>61446398
>cannot replace earpads
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>61446762 (me)
What about the DT770 PRO 80 Ohm? Reviews are pretty good.
I'm hearing conflicted opinions about the >>61446830 CB1 so I'd rather no buy something I end up regretting, no matter how good the price seem to be.

>>61446732
i cant find them in eu

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sennheiser-HD-598-HD598SE-Special-Edition-Over-Ear-Headphones-AUTHORIZED-DEALER-/132245299399?epid=171620298&hash=item1eca6f20c7:g:fK8AAOSwOMdZVlN3
cop or knot?

>>61446978
>end to listen to music pretty loudly, which may be audible to others,
With open, unless you're listening to deafening loud volume and they are on the same room, they won't hear a thing. Use open unless you're working at an open office with people all around you, within arm's reach.

>>61447403
It's been on <100€ on sales in amazon. Definitely not worth 150€ on shady ebay. At that point look into amazon, HD579, better.

>>61447426
alright thanks

>Budget
$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Fulla 2
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
modestly comfy
>Past headphones
HD598

>>61447652
>HD598
Are they still ok?
If so, save up for at least HD600.
At $200, you're stuck with sidegrades only.

what headphone s'll allow me to hear te guy whos jackin off in the recording room?

>>61447945
HD600, of course.

Accuracy.

>>61447652
K612 maybe? Not sure about the Fulla2 though

>>61448074
Fulla 2 won't provide K612 adequate volume with sources mastered at a very low level. I'd advise a Magni 2 minimum for K612.

>Budget
150 Bucks, but flexible
>Location
USA
>Source
My computer
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Decently comfy, i wear them a lot.
>Sound Signature
I prefer neutral.
>Past headphones
Mostly headsets

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Idol trash says good night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO3XdWimbKc

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Would Jaybird X2's for $50-60 be a worthwhile purchase?

For decent bluetooth, I don't see why not

Do Sennheisers really tend to snap?

>>61424603
HD580

>>61448589
My week old HD600s have managed not to snap

>>61448686
Gratz

>>61448589
HD600/650/6XX will never snap if you do this the moment you get them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U

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why are they taking so long to ship

Really enjoying my Akai Project 50x + Lyx Pro has 30 ear pads.

Effectively makes it into a clone of the ISK MDH9000 at around 30 bucks. The project 50x's default earpads are not that good.

I see lots of praise for the hd 600 here but what about the hd 650? Its only $30 more than the hd 600 on Amazon.

>>61449407
A little more bass and less treble? Why not? Shills praise 600's because they're "very accurate" and "neutral" yet ignore ER4SR for being 99% Diffuse Field neutral because "Ear dildos".

>>61449407
I love my HD650. It and the HD600 are only slightly different from each other; it just depends on which you prefer.

>>61448732
I kept on flinching while watching that.

best headset on the market . money is no object

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>>61449699
HD800 with a Blue Yeti mic taped on.

>>61449699
Use the template. https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

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Recommendations on earbuds?

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>>61444840
Don't. There are better options in the ~$300 range.

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what are these memes? which ones should i use, if any? is it better to use these if it means i can comfortably use flat/neutral equalizer settings?

>>61442017
>It looks like the box is made out of Granite

looks like marble to me

>>61449856
disable it

>>61449810
Panasonic RP-HJE125

>>61450001
>Multiple Speakers in a Room
>Dolby® Headphone uses powerful digital signal processing (DSP) technology to create the sensation of multiple loudspeakers in a room. The effect is closer to home theater sound than traditional headphone audio.

>Listen for Longer
>By creating the sensation that you're surrounded by sound, Dolby Volume makes it easier to listen in comfort for extended periods of time. The listener fatigue you often get with headphones disappears.

>salty schittfags can't do this

>fulla schiit

>>61450016
It doesn't sound natural. And for the record I don't own any shitty Schiit shit.

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>>61450046
my yamaha eph-100 kinda lack bass on the default settings. would you say this equalizer is better?

>>61444754
>Been using my HD800's with onboard and they sound fine to me

Urgh.

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Sign magnitude rocks. I pity you poor fucks who are stuck with ∆Σ converters.

>>61450065
also, dolby headphone doesn't seem to really make the bass louder, but it makes it feel as if there is a subwoofer in front of me and not just in my head, so it seems to improve the soundstage immensely

>>61424569
what are some cheap noise cancelling headphones/earphones? do these also reduce noise even when not listening to anything?

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i think i'm going to use dolby headphone with the "reference room" (smallest room) setting, doesn't distort the sound much, and a neutral equalizer

>>61445759
Sell me on it, because it's still chinkshit

>>61450273
It's usually best to turn all audio enhancements off.

bought these headphones because a friend recommended them to me.will get them in the mail friday . did i fuck up ?

https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-TH-02-Closed-Studio-Headphones/dp/B00B1N06PO

>>61450311
but the default with a neutral equalizer doesn't sound very good, there is hardly any bass at all unless i turn the volume up to tinnitus-inducing levels

>>61450343
>$20
They're probably shit

>>61450116
R-2R? Man. I had one of those plugged into my printer port.

>>61450357
Corrective EQ literally did nothing wrong, ever, but all that 3D audio crap should probably stay off.

>>61450343
Something tells me you won't use them for critical listening or recording, so why not.

>>61450415
nah this doesn't make sense, you're ok with distorting the sound a lot by raising/lowering the volume of certain frequencies, but you're not ok with distorting the sound very slightly to widen the sound stage without altering volumes and while making it less fatiguing to listen to

>>61450415
yeah ill mainly use them for gaming (rainbow 6 siege) and listening to music (mainly classical)

>>61450399
did a little research online and people have said it should cost more than it is for the quality of sound it produces but what do i know

>>61450065
yamaha eph-100 are already considered to be a bit bassy and look at what equalizer i would otherwise use, but with dolby headphone i can use a completely flat equalizer

>>61450464
Yeah with that they probably mean $50 which still isn't a lot. But try them out, see how they are.

>>61450343
They're good closed headphones for the price.. They're very uncomfortable though.

Earpads are pure shit. If you care about comfort you're gonna have to get new pads.

Also if you don't care about the color you could have gotten the Teac CT-H02 (clone of the Tascam) for slightly cheaper.

ITALYanon, 50$ budget, i had sennheiser HD 202 ii but they worn out and they are now uncomfortable. Are the Superlux HD681 EVO a good replacement or i will KMS after i hear them?
TY guys

>>61450692
any recommendations on ear pads?

ok fine, i might just need to get used to the "flat" sound (no dolby headphone, no/minimal equalizer)

>>61450726
>681 EVO
Bass. Just bass. 662 EVO's better.

>>61450726
HD 681 (red ring) with these velour pads is good. The stock pads it comes with are crap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Velour-Velvet-Ear-Pads-Cushion-For-Superlux-HD-HMD-Series-Pro-Studio-Headphones-/261643450065?rmvSB=true

I do not recommend the EVO. If you are lazy and do not mind lesser quality, get the Samson SR850.

>>61450787
I can find no reviews on them. Have you tried them?
>>61450907
Yeah, the evo have also tissue pads. Why not them?
Are those hp confortable? Any other brand instead of superlux?

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>>61450982
The pads on the EVO aren't the problem. It's overly bassy. The original 681 is lacking in bass in comparison, however other than that the sound is quite good for the price, and they are very open. Could benefit from a bit of EQ for that peak in the treble range.

>Are those hp confortable?
With the velour pads they should be decently comfortable. Stock pads, no.

>Any other brand instead of superlux?
Not really, unless you want to increase your budget.

>>61450747
I'd recommend sony 950 pads, lyx pro has 30 pads, or brainwavz pads

I own offbrand 950 pads + offbrand brainwavz angled pads. Recently got the Lyx pro pads and they're great as well.

The 950 pads I own are most likely a little less thick than the oem pads while the offbrand pads of the brainwavz are just as good.

Not sure if they would change the audio quality for the better or worse but these pads tend to very comfortable.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N6DLLMN/

https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Cushion-earmuff-Brainwavz-Headphones/dp/B06Y262HJ6/

>>61450116
This doesn't look like the Schiit multibit DAC? What is it?

I can get an ifi micro ican for about 130 eurobucks. Good deal?

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>>61451152
Thank you anon, what about these?

>>61451349

Denafrips Ares

Another R2R DAC by placebo fetishists.

Trying to figure out the best approach to my set up. Record player>receiver>headphone amp>headphones

Should I connect the amp via the headphone jack on the receiver or the RCA outputs?

>>61451727
I don't know, the only one I've heard of is the Samson SR850, which is supposed to be okay. Does that one say it's different in any way? I don't speak Italian.

>>61451731
Sign Magnitude is better though as measurements have shown. Don't think that Schiit shitty stuff is representative of the entire methodology

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>>61451727
rebrands of hd681B most likely, put these eq settings and you are fine

>Budget
$50
>Location
India
>Source
PC, Galaxy S5
>Type of headphone
Over the ear
>Open or closed
Closed with ANC
>Comfort level
High, expect to be using them for long periods
>Sound signature
Neutral with a touch of bass
>Past headphones
None
>Anything else
Looking for cans that I can use unplugged and with cable when the battery dies out. I'd really appreciate not having to pause my music if I need to stretch or move around every now and then.

>>61452051

>implying that audibly transparent DACs are not a triviality

are the Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 any good?

>>61435587
Thanks for your rec. So I tried the DT770s today. I did find the bass that I was looking for, but the high frequencies were too loud. I was able to control them somewhat by using a bit of EQ. That won't help the slightly recessed mids, however.

I tried out ATH-M50x which were nearby. I found that they sounded more "colorful", had more mids, and the highs were more controlled. The overall sound was smeary at times though, just like everyone says. Frequencies leaking out into each other.

After researching a bit, I found out about Custom Studio Pros but they don't seem to sell them here in Japan, nor in 32 ohms. Might take a crack at Custom One Pro Plus, but I can only try them at Akiba. What do?

>>61452051
>>61452892
The schiit have something going for them. Their modi multibit thing is cheaper, like 10x cheaper, than any fancy R2R crap by other audiophool companies.

>>61446965
>being a headlet

>Budget
100-200
>Location
US
>Source
PC/Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM never been able to get those mushroom things to fit in my ear
>Comfort level
Not something silly I plan on using them daily
>Sound signature
I don't know

>>61453432
yamaha eph-100

>>61453503
>>61453503
>>61453503

NEW

>>61448744
>fugg
keked

>>61451566
Pls respond

>>61424569
almost every thread great pic
>why is /hpg/ so comfy